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yahoo...@gmail.com

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Aug 3, 2006, 11:01:40 PM8/3/06
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My teacher said that an object never touches surface, there is a tiny
gap between the object and the surface, although it is so tiny that we
can't see.

If we are not tuching anything, then are we feeling them? Also, how
come we get finger-prints -- if we are not tuching any object?

ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com

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Aug 3, 2006, 11:15:02 PM8/3/06
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Ask your teacher, if that's true, how can friction welding work?

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Jim Pennino

Remove .spam.sux to reply.

PD

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Aug 3, 2006, 11:18:04 PM8/3/06
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yahoo...@gmail.com wrote:
> My teacher said that an object never touches surface, there is a tiny
> gap between the object and the surface, although it is so tiny that we
> can't see.
>
> If we are not tuching anything, then are we feeling them?

Sure. You feel the repulsion. It is this same repulsion that keeps your
rear end from penetrating the chair.

> Also, how
> come we get finger-prints -- if we are not tuching any object?

Because some of the oil on (or should I say, immediately adjacent to)
your finger is more strongly attracted to the other surface than to
your finger, and so it jumps from being near your finger to being near
the other surface.

Think about it for a minute. Atoms are not solid little balls. They are
mostly empty space, with a nucleus that is a trillion times smaller
than the rest of the atom, surrounded by a thin, barely-there cloud of
buzzing --- and very, very tiny --- electrons.
So when the atoms of your finger (a cloud of buzzing electrons around a
tiny nucleus) come adjacent to the atoms of your desk (another cloud of
buzzing electrons around a very tiny nucleus), what keeps one
barely-there cloud of electrons from just whistling through another
barely-there cloud of electrons?

PD

Sam Wormley

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Aug 3, 2006, 11:23:03 PM8/3/06
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yahoo...@gmail.com wrote:
> My teacher said that an object never touches surface, there is a tiny
> gap between the object and the surface, although it is so tiny that we
> can't see.

Given the meaning of touch--you do "touch" the surface... all "touching"
is done at the photon level.

CWatters

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Aug 4, 2006, 2:32:48 AM8/4/06
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<yahoo...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> My teacher said that an object never touches surface, there is a tiny
> gap between the object and the surface, although it is so tiny that we
> can't see.

I assume she is talking about the atomic level.

Edward Green

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Aug 5, 2006, 1:21:53 AM8/5/06
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yahoo...@gmail.com wrote:

As Sam Wormley indirectly suggested, it's a silly semantic game to
redefine a useful word so that no instances of the concept exist.

Sam Wormley

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Aug 5, 2006, 9:59:52 PM8/5/06
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G=EMC^2 Glazier wrote:
> Sam I think I showed you the fastest picture in the world. It was a
> bullet hitting a wine glass and the glass showing no cracks,but the
> bullet caused the free electrons on the outer surface to give off a
> flare of light. That begs the question are we in reality only touching
> outer layer free electrons. I once read electrons are keeping us from
> falling to the Earth's center. Water's surface tension can hold
> up steal,and this membrane's structure is said to be electrons. Well
> here is the picture Bert
>
>

Not even in focus, Herb, give us a break!

hanson

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Aug 5, 2006, 11:25:48 PM8/5/06
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"Sam Wormley" <swor...@mchsi.com> wrote in message
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[Sam]

> Not even in focus, Herb, give us a break!
>
[hanson]
Sam, never mind the focus, Herbie is too geriatric to focus.
But "break" is the operative word here for Hebie .
Here are 2 previous posts about his many posts of his,
Herbie's miraculous "photon flare glass".... ahahahaha....
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/5db0dc28902abe2f
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sci.physics.new-theories/msg/e8d1258a976b4ade
>
The reason that he remembers his wine glass so well
(and repeats the same story over and over again) is
because he shot it when he was full of the cheap Mogen
David of the bottle he just had emptied... and that made his
yenta so angry that she beat the fuck out of Hebie with the
22 he used to shoot at the empty wineglass. She got so irate
because that was the best (and only) wine glass they owned.
It was a Crystal Lead Glass from Nazi Germany that she had
picked up in Bob's Secondhand store for 75 cents in 1963.
Mrs. Herbie considered that Glass to be their family jewel.
(after all, they are the "Glaser's")
Now Herb who had broken her treasure got that well deserved
beating from her which made him a broken man ever since...
"Sad but true", Herbie will say now..... ahahahaha....
hahahaha... ahahahahahanson

PS: Herbie, well, such is life for you, Herbie. So, here is
something that will lift your broken spirit: EL is station chief
for our Dept of Homeland Security in the port of Alexandria,
Egypt... hahaha... Eat your heart out olde kacker... ahaha...

Jeff…Relf

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Aug 6, 2006, 1:22:25 PM8/6/06
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Hi Ha_Ha_Hanson, You do realize that Glazier is Frazir, don't you ?
He can nymshift all he wants, even dumping Web_TV, but I'd still recognize him.
Cameras, sailing, ( Christian ) armageddon, black hole DNA and
speed of light vortexes are his hallmarks.
He was born between Alaska and Canada in 1955,
grew up in the Tongass ( Alaska's inside passage ) area.
He also spent some time with the Navajos on the US/Canadian boarder.
His sole child, a son, was born in 1982.
Like all good Indians, he smuggles
( and he loves it when I tell you that, ha ha ).
As the principle owner of the Bahama's registered ResidenSea and
Singapore-based APL, he's a true world citizen.

WikiPedia.ORG/wiki/American_President_Lines
www.shipfoto.co.uk/images/2003%20Photos/APL-Denmark-3-Sept-2003.jpg
photos.signonsandiego.com/gallery1.5/albums/beachedship/JG_13StuckShip253076x001.jpg
homepage3.nifty.com/container/photo2/apl-cup.jpg
homepage.ntlworld.com/soizick/Ranterpix/disaster2006.APL.Panama10.GIF

But, mysteriously, Cheng_Wai_Keung is the Chairman of APL's parent company NOL:

www.nol.com.sg/investor/ar2005/statement.html
www.nol.com.sg/investor/ar2005/bod.html

G=EMC^2 Glazier

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Aug 6, 2006, 1:42:02 PM8/6/06
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Sam After I read that the picture was out of focus by you I laugh so
much I peed in my pants.(still hanging on the line.) When I showed this
picture at MIT they shit. Bert

G=EMC^2 Glazier

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Aug 6, 2006, 1:47:23 PM8/6/06
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Hanson Its Bud light for me. That is not wine in the wine glass but
green mouth wash.. I happen to like Jewish sweet wine,but to you it must
be poison. Reality is how can Hanson hate millions and millions of
people,and live with himself? Bert

Sam Wormley

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Aug 6, 2006, 1:59:09 PM8/6/06
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When you show it to your wife, does she fart?

T Wake

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Aug 6, 2006, 2:18:24 PM8/6/06
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"Jeff.Relf" <Jeff...@Yahoo.COM> wrote in message
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> Hi Ha_Ha_Hanson, You do realize that Glazier is Frazir, don't you ?
> He can nymshift all he wants, even dumping Web_TV, but I'd still recognize
> him.
> Cameras, sailing, ( Christian ) armageddon, black hole DNA and
> speed of light vortexes are his hallmarks.
> He was born between Alaska and Canada in 1955,
> grew up in the Tongass ( Alaska's inside passage ) area.
> He also spent some time with the Navajos on the US/Canadian boarder.
> His sole child, a son, was born in 1982.
> Like all good Indians, he smuggles
> ( and he loves it when I tell you that, ha ha ).
> As the principle owner of the Bahama's registered ResidenSea and
> Singapore-based APL, he's a true world citizen.

Wow. Jeff you actually _are_ that guillable.

Jeff…Relf

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Aug 6, 2006, 2:19:31 PM8/6/06
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Hi Bert, Re: Your ultra fuzzy snapshot.jpg,

Google won't carry a post that has an attachment like that;
likewise, many other Usenet servers won't carry it.
Instead, you should upload your picture somewhere and post a link to it.


Jeff…Relf

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Aug 6, 2006, 2:32:07 PM8/6/06
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Hi Bert, Do you have a higher-res picture ? it was very pixalated.


Phineas T Puddleduck

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Aug 6, 2006, 2:40:14 PM8/6/06
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In article <Jeff_Relf_20...@Cotse.NET>, Jeff’ĶRelf
<Jeff...@Yahoo.COM> wrote:

> Hi Bert, Do you have a higher-res picture ? it was very pixalated.
>
>

It was your brain that is pixelated, methhead..

--
Relf's Law? -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
"Bullshit repeated to the limit of infinity asymptotically approaches
the odour of roses."
Corollary -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
³It approaches the asymptote faster, the more Œpseduos¹ you throw in
your formulas.²

--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com

T Wake

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Aug 6, 2006, 3:12:49 PM8/6/06
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"Jeff.Relf" <Jeff...@Yahoo.COM> wrote in message
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Wow, Jeff abiding by (nay, promoting) an accepted standard. Will wonders
never cease.


hanson

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Aug 6, 2006, 4:05:58 PM8/6/06
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Poor Herbie has grief as "G=EMC^2 Glazier" <herbert...@webtv.net>
in his news:3804-44D...@storefull-3338.bay.webtv.net...
[hanson]
ahahaha... AHAHAHAHA... Herbie, Herbie, Herbie.... ahahaha....
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/e44fceda8c6d504c
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/96806240eaf4d542
Did you crank yourself AGAIN over these two posts above?... ahahaha..

Herbie, your pain meds are doing this to you, not me. Or maybe
there is the possibility that your Zionist fanaticism is causing your
aberrant condition and your out-bursts. So, have a ham sandwich
and plenty of crispy pork rind with a good Lager to ameliorate
your self-destructive state of mind and body.... because....
ahahahaha... see Herbie, you are so far gone in your Zionist pan-
hatred & your delusions that you just can't accept reality any longer.

El is not Head of DHS but he is station chief of DHS in the port of
Alexandria in Egypt. (Well paid too. $150k/year plus free flying)
Look up the appropriate web page, olde kacker. Here's the link for
DHS in www.dhs.gov/ and you can see his name right in there:
"Prof. Dr. Hemet Shokry Isaac El Sharony" ... ahahahaha...
BTW, go and read his posts and see that EL is really a Jew, a
good one at that. Here see and read for yourself, olde kacker:
http://groups.google.fr/group/sci.archaeology/msg/4ce6d9ae701dd19d

Zion-Glaser listen, you are not only an extreme embarrassment to
the Jewish community but you are one of those Jews that create &
promulgate Anti-Semitism. Yes you, a Jew promotes Anti-Semitism,
big time, like a few others did here in these NGs, especially Kolker.
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/96806240eaf4d542
wherein ersatz rabbi Robert J. Kolker says:
BK::: The obvious solution is to kill them all and let Allah sort
BK::: out the good from the bad. .... In the US we can expell the
BK::: foreign born moslems to a convenient killing field and
BK::: vet the remaining ones. .... we have to kill them all overseas
BK::: and herd the domestic Moslems into controlled areas....
BK::: We can also take their youngest children to be raised properly
BK::: and sterilize the rest. The problem will be completely solved in
BK::: about 70 years.
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.astro/msg/82caaf5ff6e0038c
BK::: I advocate wide scale genocide on the Moslems.
... and also urges in news:2rfqqdF...@uni-berlin.de on 09-23-04,
BK::: to put all Xians into asylums for their belief in Christianity.
>
See Herbie, what company you are riding with? You Jews have a
Final Solution for your objects of hate, exactly like Hitler did. Now
why should that make you any better then the Islamo-fascists or
Moslem-terrorists who want Israel be wiped off the map? All you
fuckers richly deserve each other in your self-destructive ways.
However, remember, Herbie, there are only a few of you, but there
are vast legions of them. Demography does not bode well for
you. Check it out, Herbie, and then you can cry with justification:
"sad but true"... ahahaha...

... as bad as you two Abe spawns are so are the Evangelicals
of the Armageddon lobby in the US who fan the flames between
you Jews and the Muslims in the hope of accelerating the
"Second Coming" of Jesus Christ... ahahahaha...

Now, can't you see, Hebie, how for some self-destructive reason
you, like a bunch of other Jews, are in workin so very hard to make
Hitler's last curse last curse to become a self-filling prophesy which
Hitler broadcast just before his demise in 45, in which he said:....
"in a 100 years from now the world will be grateful for what I have
started". ---- Herbie... 61 down... 39 to go... and it looks like you
Jews are right on track.... ahahahaha....

Glaser, it was you Zionists alone who have laid the ground work
to rail up first the Palis, then the entire Middle East, then the whole
global fucking Muslim world against the West & dragging the US
into this unholy shit we are in today. Naturally now, that the water is
up to your ears... you loudly whine and your Jew organizations
show KZ Films again all evening long every week on TV in the US
hoping to stir up pity and support..... and inadvertently generating
more Anti-Semitism in the process... because it was not Amis
who gassed the Jews. So, why rub it into us US citizens in your
desperation hoping to make us feel guilty when we give you already
$$$$ 3 Billion dollars every year each year for the last 50 years
and all we get of you in return is war and mayhem because of you?

But because of your loudmouthed hatred, fanaticism & megalomania
you don't wanna hear the naked truth and you have become too blind
to see and notice how subtle and widespread Anti-Semitism has
become in the US.... to wit as of late: Gibson and even O'Reilly
exudes frequent Freudian slips letting his disdain shine thru for
loud Jews like you and your Zionist ilk. Can't you see the hand
writing on the wall any longer, olde kacker?..... Your B'nai Brith
bitterly whined in 2005 that there were 300'000 fever Jews in the
year 2000, in the US, then there were in 1970. It was on CNN for
a whole week. These were the smart and decent Jews.
You are not one of them.... obviously.... ahahahaha...
Never the less Hebie, Thanks for the laughs..... ahahaha....
ahahaha.... ahahanson

hanson

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Aug 6, 2006, 9:59:41 PM8/6/06
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"Jeff.Relf" <Jeff...@Yahoo.COM> wrote in message
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> Hi Ha_Ha_Hanson, You do realize that Glazier is Frazir, don't you ?
>
[hanson]
ahahaha... "Glazier is Frazir"... ahahaha.... I don't think so, Jeff.
You just insulted TJ Frazir with your assertion above, you trying to
get even with TJ, by you telling folks that Indio-Thomson James Fraser
the physical giant, is as stupid as Jewish Herb Glaser, the demented
cockroach shepherd, because tj was fucken with you and you got
stuck on tj's fly paper..... ahahaha..... Don't be so transparent, Jeff.

Additionally, you have run the G=EMC^2 Viagra patient Glaser up
the tree because he, as a virulent and fanatical Zionist, feels now
badly denigrated for having been "Frazir-ed" as an Arab... ahahaha...

Now, probably both of them will get on your ass for you having
equated them.... after which they will become ass-buddies... ahahaha...

AFA who is who, I give flying fuck about that. To me this forum
is a crazy 24/7 cyber party which I attend because it is FUN.
I respond to the brain farts of, to me unknown, cyber entities
with my own farts in kind and I try both make a bigger stink then
they do,....... so that everybody else can have a good laugh.
ahahahaha.... ahahahaha.... That's all there's to it... ahahahaha.....
Jeff, have fun, regardless!
ahahahaha... ahahahanson
>
[Jeff]

Jeff…Relf

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Aug 6, 2006, 11:22:46 PM8/6/06
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Hi Ha_Ha_Hanson, Oops... Glazier is _Not_ Frazir.
But he's no Zionist ( or Christian ) either, see:

Google.COM/group/alt.sci.physics.new-theories/msg/988e3cfd04651be9

He's admited to browsing the Christian Bible at hotels and
joked about screeming " Jesus Christ " when hurt.
Frazir, on the other hand, is much more Christian... so I was wrong.


T Wake

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Aug 7, 2006, 5:42:56 AM8/7/06
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"Jeff.Relf" <Jeff...@Yahoo.COM> wrote in message
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> so I was wrong.


No change there then. You must get used to saying that a lot now?


Phineas T PuddleDuck

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Aug 7, 2006, 5:51:29 AM8/7/06
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In article <FeCdnd02x9-8lkrZ...@pipex.net>,
"T Wake" <usenet...@gishpuppy.com> wrote:


Shame he cannot admit that about his shitty physics...

--
Relf's Law = "Bullshit repeated to the limit of infinity

asymptotically approaches the odour of roses."

T Wake

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"Phineas T PuddleDuck" <phineasp...@googlemail.com_NOSPAM> wrote in
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> In article <FeCdnd02x9-8lkrZ...@pipex.net>,
> "T Wake" <usenet...@gishpuppy.com> wrote:
>
>> "Jeff.Relf" <Jeff...@Yahoo.COM> wrote in message
>> news:Jeff_Relf_20...@Cotse.NET...
>> > so I was wrong.
>>
>>
>> No change there then. You must get used to saying that a lot now?
>
>
> Shame he cannot admit that about his shitty physics...

He has been caught off guard a few times (like over BBT) and nearly
apologised to you - but quickly the idiocy returned to him and he decided it
was his idea originally...


Phineas T PuddleDuck

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Aug 7, 2006, 5:57:52 AM8/7/06
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In article <iL2dnfTUdcJ...@pipex.net>,
"T Wake" <usenet...@gishpuppy.com> wrote:

>
> "Phineas T PuddleDuck" <phineasp...@googlemail.com_NOSPAM> wrote in
> message news:44d6ffec$0$24694$8826...@free.teranews.com...
> > In article <FeCdnd02x9-8lkrZ...@pipex.net>,
> > "T Wake" <usenet...@gishpuppy.com> wrote:
> >
> >> "Jeff.Relf" <Jeff...@Yahoo.COM> wrote in message
> >> news:Jeff_Relf_20...@Cotse.NET...
> >> > so I was wrong.
> >>
> >>
> >> No change there then. You must get used to saying that a lot now?
> >
> >
> > Shame he cannot admit that about his shitty physics...
>
> He has been caught off guard a few times (like over BBT) and nearly
> apologised to you - but quickly the idiocy returned to him and he decided it
> was his idea originally...


I wonder how many dimensions he will stop at. He probably read some soundbite
about early string theory and 26 dimensions and is desperately reading Wiki
for magic quantities. entropy, energy, colour, taste, blueness..... ;0)

T Wake

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Aug 7, 2006, 6:04:32 AM8/7/06
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"Phineas T PuddleDuck" <phineasp...@googlemail.com_NOSPAM> wrote in
message news:44d7016b$0$24668$8826...@free.teranews.com...

> In article <iL2dnfTUdcJ...@pipex.net>,
> "T Wake" <usenet...@gishpuppy.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> "Phineas T PuddleDuck" <phineasp...@googlemail.com_NOSPAM> wrote in
>> message news:44d6ffec$0$24694$8826...@free.teranews.com...
>> > In article <FeCdnd02x9-8lkrZ...@pipex.net>,
>> > "T Wake" <usenet...@gishpuppy.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> "Jeff.Relf" <Jeff...@Yahoo.COM> wrote in message
>> >> news:Jeff_Relf_20...@Cotse.NET...
>> >> > so I was wrong.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> No change there then. You must get used to saying that a lot now?
>> >
>> >
>> > Shame he cannot admit that about his shitty physics...
>>
>> He has been caught off guard a few times (like over BBT) and nearly
>> apologised to you - but quickly the idiocy returned to him and he decided
>> it
>> was his idea originally...
>
>
> I wonder how many dimensions he will stop at. He probably read some
> soundbite
> about early string theory and 26 dimensions and is desperately reading
> Wiki
> for magic quantities. entropy, energy, colour, taste, blueness..... ;0)
>

LOL.

Yes, although it has taken him some time to make the leap from five to six.
Remember how he blames the lack of a "seventh" dimension on the fact that
you and I cant "handle" four. How cool to think we are the _reason_ behind
physical laws and the structure of the universe.....

I almost wish he was correct :-)


Phineas T PuddleDuck

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Aug 7, 2006, 6:06:06 AM8/7/06
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In article <haWdnbtK_r6sjUrZ...@pipex.net>,
"T Wake" <usenet...@gishpuppy.com> wrote:

> LOL.
>
> Yes, although it has taken him some time to make the leap from five to six.
> Remember how he blames the lack of a "seventh" dimension on the fact that
> you and I cant "handle" four. How cool to think we are the _reason_ behind
> physical laws and the structure of the universe.....

Hey... lets believe him less and see if we can get that figure down some
more....

Y.Porat

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Aug 7, 2006, 7:13:55 AM8/7/06
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----------------------
i wonder
what are the sexual relations between
T.Wake and Pinny ass .......

Y.P
-----------------------------

Phineas T PuddleDuck

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Aug 7, 2006, 7:29:28 AM8/7/06
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In article <1154949235....@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
"Y.Porat" <map...@012.net.il> wrote:

> ----------------------
> i wonder
> what are the sexual relations between
> T.Wake and Pinny ass .......
>
> Y.P
> -----------------------------


You spend a lot of time wondering about stuff like that. Sounds like you're in
denial, Porat.

--
Relf's Law = "Bullshit repeated to the limit of infinity
asymptotically approaches the odour of roses."

G=EMC^2 Glazier

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Aug 7, 2006, 10:30:55 AM8/7/06
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Hanson Ha Ha Ha Ha EL is Jewish(like Hitler) If El is Jewish than I
can believe you are a rabbi. If El is Jewish I will eat only "matzo
balls,and chicken soup." Maybe the Israel's named their air-line after
him for all the kind words and thoughts he has for their well being (oh
ya) El is doing hard time and is not allowed out of his cell. In his
cell there is only a 60w bulb,and no means to connect a computer. Sad
but closer to the truth than your post about this terrorist. Ha ha ha
El has only rice and water,and that is more than he deserves Bert

G=EMC^2 Glazier

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Aug 7, 2006, 10:58:04 AM8/7/06
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Jeff I'm not Frazir. However Frazir and I go back many Moons on news
groups. He is a virtual friend of mine. My mother told me we get our
heaven and hell here on Earth. Would hate to think when dead I would end
up in one of those two crazy houses. God is Hocus Pocus The bible is
sci-fiction mixed into some flowered up ancient history A 7 year study
just completed proves praying does not work,and that goes for all
religious believe. God is a killer of humankind. More people in this
spacetime have been killed in the name of Gods than any spacetime in the
past. Very possibly when the last human dies he will cry out "ALLAH" and
be dead before he hits the ground. Boston priests rape children. Near
Salem Ma where I grew up years ago they went to church on Sunday and
figured out what old person was worth hanging in the name of God that
afternoon.(Even a 14 year old girl was hung) Reality is I could never
figure out why they stopped using fire,after all its much more
painful,and religious people are the meanest,and causing great pain
gives them much pleasure. sad but true Go figure Bert PS I could
never do what religious people can do and have done. I am a nice person
Bert

Ben Newsam

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Aug 7, 2006, 11:12:06 AM8/7/06
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On Mon, 7 Aug 2006 10:15:43 -0400, herbert...@webtv.net (G=EMC^2
Glazier) wrote:

>Well here is a close up

Please do not post binaries to a non-binary newsgroup. If you do, you
compromise the possibility that a particular server might carry the
group. Also, someone (maybe even me) might cancel your post.

G=EMC^2 Glazier

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Aug 7, 2006, 11:08:29 AM8/7/06
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To All Reality is Witten,and Brian Greene are my two ideals. Can live
with 7 dimensions in the micro,and the three in the macro,and that makes
ten Witten is my authority on dimensions. Greene helps me understand
the string theory The late Feynman was my overall scientest. He like me
loved science and had a sense of humor. Bert

G=EMC^2 Glazier

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Aug 7, 2006, 11:12:34 AM8/7/06
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T.Wake Nothing is really "correct" no 100% precision in our math,or
theories. Its all "approximation." Bert

T Wake

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"Y.Porat" <map...@012.net.il> wrote in message
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>
> Phineas T PuddleDuck wrote:
>> In article <haWdnbtK_r6sjUrZ...@pipex.net>,
>> "T Wake" <usenet...@gishpuppy.com> wrote:
>>
>> > LOL.
>> >
>> > Yes, although it has taken him some time to make the leap from five to
>> > six.
>> > Remember how he blames the lack of a "seventh" dimension on the fact
>> > that
>> > you and I cant "handle" four. How cool to think we are the _reason_
>> > behind
>> > physical laws and the structure of the universe.....
>>
>> Hey... lets believe him less and see if we can get that figure down some
>> more....
>>
> i wonder
> what are the sexual relations between
> T.Wake and Pinny ass .......
>


Awww, look at that. Porat was feeling all left out so had to stalk us.

Poor porat. The kook without an audience. It must be killing him.


T Wake

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"G=EMC^2 Glazier" <herbert...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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> T.Wake Nothing is really "correct" no 100% precision in our math,or
> theories. Its all "approximation." Bert
>

Sorry, I have no idea which post you are responding to here.


Phineas T PuddleDuck

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In article <XvSdnaZRRsn...@pipex.net>,
"T Wake" <usenet...@gishpuppy.com> wrote:

> >>
> > i wonder
> > what are the sexual relations between
> > T.Wake and Pinny ass .......
> >
>
>
> Awww, look at that. Porat was feeling all left out so had to stalk us.
>
> Poor porat. The kook without an audience. It must be killing him.

Him and Dense B make a fine pair - perhaps we can get them to breed in
captivity...

--
Relf's Law = "Bullshit repeated to the limit of infinity
asymptotically approaches the odour of roses."

hanson

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ahahahaha... AHAHAHAHA... ahahahaha....ahahahaha...
Poor Zion Herbie "G=EMC^2 Glazier" <herbert...@webtv.net> w/i
news:26827-44D...@storefull-3335.bay.webtv.net...
that he has an EL fetish that overwhelms him so completely that it
gives him nightmares & negates the effects of Zion Herbie's Viagra
regimen. EL's ghost combabulates Zion-Herbie so profusely that
he is not able to find El in www.dhs.gov/ and so he whines & shares
his dry wet-dream with us after he read this....... ahahahahaha.....
>
[hanson]
>> No, Zion Herbie, El is not Head of DHS as you have assumed,
>> but Dr. Hemet El is station chief of DHS in the port of Alexandria
>> in Egypt. (Well paid too. $150k/year plus free flying. Not bad, huh)

>> Look up the appropriate web page, olde kacker. Here's the link for
>> DHS in www.dhs.gov/ and you can see his name right in there:
>> "Prof. Dr. Hemet Shokry Isaac El Sharony" ... ahahahaha...
>> BTW, go and read his post and see that EL is really a Jew, a
>> good one at that. Here, see and read for yourself, olde kacker:
http://groups.google.fr/group/sci.archaeology/msg/4ce6d9ae701dd19d
>
[Zion Glaser]
[hanson]
ahahaha.. So, big deal that you will eat "matzo balls and chicken soup"
You do that anyway, Zion Herbie... ahahaha... but it is apparent that
EL really cranked you because he posted that you were an intellectual
midget and the shepherd of your 12 years old cockroach... ahahaha .

Furthermore, Herbie, you are the only Jew who gets upset over your
fellow Jew EL's comments. Zion Herbie, you should not react like that.
You, Zion Herbie (even collectively), are such a small minority that you
should learn how to make friends instead of making enemies every-
where and all the time. But you, as an ingrained Zionist, do not wanna
hear nor do that... Hey, what do I care, it's your collective ass that
invites, got and gets those historic asskickings and barbequings...
ahahahaha.... ... to boot, Zionh Herbie, it looks like that you are still
cranking yourself over again about these two posts here..... ahahaha
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/e44fceda8c6d504c
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/96806240eaf4d542

Herbie, your pain meds are doing this to you, not me. Or maybe
there is the possibility that your Zionist fanaticism is causing your
aberrant condition and your out-bursts. So, have a ham sandwich
and plenty of crispy pork rind with a good Lager to ameliorate
your self-destructive state of mind and body.... because....
ahahahaha... see Herbie, you are so far gone in your Zionist pan-
hatred & your delusions that you just can't accept reality any longer.

Zion-Glaser listen, you are not only an extreme embarrassment to


the Jewish community but you are one of those Jews that create &
promulgate Anti-Semitism. Yes you, a Jew promotes Anti-Semitism,
big time, like a few others did here in these NGs, especially Kolker.
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/96806240eaf4d542
wherein ersatz rabbi Robert J. Kolker says:
BK::: The obvious solution is to kill them all and let Allah sort
BK::: out the good from the bad. .... In the US we can expell the
BK::: foreign born moslems to a convenient killing field and
BK::: vet the remaining ones. .... we have to kill them all overseas
BK::: and herd the domestic Moslems into controlled areas....
BK::: We can also take their youngest children to be raised properly
BK::: and sterilize the rest. The problem will be completely solved in
BK::: about 70 years.
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.astro/msg/82caaf5ff6e0038c

BK::: I advocate wide scale genocide on the Moslems.... and Bob


also urges in news:2rfqqdF...@uni-berlin.de on 09-23-04,

BK::: to put all Christians into asylums for their belief in Christianity.


>
See Herbie, what company you are riding with? You Jews have a
Final Solution for your objects of hate, exactly like Hitler did. Now
why should that make you any better then the Islamo-fascists or

Moslem-terrorists who want Israel to be wiped off the map? All you


fuckers richly deserve each other in your self-destructive ways.

To boot, remember, Herbie, there are only a "few" of you Yidds, but
there are vast legions of Allah ass-venters that come looking for you.


Demography does not bode well for you. Check it out, Herbie, and
then you can cry with justification: "sad but true"... ahahaha...

... as bad as you two Abraham spawns (Jews and Muslims) are,
equally bad or worse are the Evangelicals of the Armageddon lobby


in the US who fan the flames between you Jews and the Muslims
in the hope of accelerating the "Second Coming" of Jesus Christ...

ahahahaha... "sad but true", isn't it, Zion Herbie"?.....

Now, can't you see, Hebie, how for some self-destructive reason

you are, like a bunch of other Jews, in working so very hard to make


Hitler's last curse last curse to become a self-filling prophesy which
Hitler broadcast just before his demise in 45, in which he said:....
"in a 100 years from now the world will be grateful for what I have
started". ---- Herbie... 61 down... 39 to go... and it looks like you
Jews are right on track.... ahahahaha....

Glaser, it was you Zionists alone who have laid the ground work
to rail up first the Palis, then the entire Middle East, then the whole
global fucking Muslim world against the West & dragging the US
into this unholy shit we are in today. Naturally now, that the water is
up to your ears... you loudly whine and your Jew organizations
show KZ Films again all evening long every week on TV in the US
hoping to stir up pity and support..... and inadvertently generating

more Anti-Semitism in the process... because it was not us Amis


who gassed the Jews. So, why rub it into us US citizens in your
desperation hoping to make us feel guilty when we give you already
$$$$ 3 Billion dollars every year each year for the last 50 years

and all we get from you in return is war and mayhem because of you?

But because of your loudmouthed hatred, fanaticism & megalomania
you don't wanna hear the naked truth and you have become too blind
to see and notice how subtle and widespread Anti-Semitism has
become in the US.... to wit as of late: Gibson and even O'Reilly
exudes frequent Freudian slips letting his disdain shine thru for
loud Jews like you and your Zionist ilk. Can't you see the hand
writing on the wall any longer, olde kacker?..... Your B'nai Brith
bitterly whined in 2005 that there were 300'000 fever Jews in the
year 2000, in the US, then there were in 1970. It was on CNN for

a whole week. These 300'000 were the smart and decent Jews.

T Wake

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"Phineas T PuddleDuck" <phineasp...@googlemail.com_NOSPAM> wrote in
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> In article <XvSdnaZRRsn...@pipex.net>,
> "T Wake" <usenet...@gishpuppy.com> wrote:
>
>> >>
>> > i wonder
>> > what are the sexual relations between
>> > T.Wake and Pinny ass .......
>> >
>>
>>
>> Awww, look at that. Porat was feeling all left out so had to stalk us.
>>
>> Poor porat. The kook without an audience. It must be killing him.
>
> Him and Dense B make a fine pair - perhaps we can get them to breed in
> captivity...
>

We could use the negative cluons generated to power the western hemisphere
for millennia. maybe this is why Jeff, porat and dennis have to be so far
apart.....


Phineas T PuddleDuck

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In article <wNGdncIDytw26ErZ...@pipex.net>,
"T Wake" <usenet...@gishpuppy.com> wrote:

> > Him and Dense B make a fine pair - perhaps we can get them to breed in
> > captivity...
> >
>
> We could use the negative cluons generated to power the western hemisphere
> for millennia. maybe this is why Jeff, porat and dennis have to be so far
> apart.....

Whatever you do, do NOT cross the streams ;-)

G=EMC^2 Glazier

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Hanson'Big Moe" had more brains than you,and the type of humankind you
represent. He did not kill nor eat his ownkind. Big Moe has been dead
for 6 years. He is remembered. Six years after you are dead people will
piss on your grave. Bert

hanson

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ahahahaha... AHAHAHAHA... ahahahaha....ahahahaha... In typical Zionist
fashion "G=EMC^2 Zion Glazier" <herbert...@webtv.net> gets mad at
me in his news:9445-44D7...@storefull-3334.bay.webtv.net...
because I reminded Zion Herbie that El had posted that Zion Herbie was
an intellectual midget and the shepherd of his 12 years old cockroach...
ahahaha ... which prompted a typical hate flare up in Zion Herbie that
revealed Zion Herbie's apparent yearning to be a necrophiliac with an
urge to vandalize graves... .
....You are an embarrassment to the Jewish community, Glaser.
<
[Zion Herbie]
[hanson's prior post]

T Wake

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"Phineas T PuddleDuck" <phineasp...@googlemail.com_NOSPAM> wrote in
message news:44d76c7d$0$24604$8826...@free.teranews.com...

> In article <wNGdncIDytw26ErZ...@pipex.net>,
> "T Wake" <usenet...@gishpuppy.com> wrote:
>
>> > Him and Dense B make a fine pair - perhaps we can get them to breed in
>> > captivity...
>> >
>>
>> We could use the negative cluons generated to power the western
>> hemisphere
>> for millennia. maybe this is why Jeff, porat and dennis have to be so far
>> apart.....
>
> Whatever you do, do NOT cross the streams ;-)
>

LOL.


Jeff…Relf

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Aug 7, 2006, 7:32:40 PM8/7/06
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Hi Burt ( and Ben_Newsam ), My news servers ( Individual.NET/Google )
reject posts with attachments; so I wouldn't have even seen your post
if it wasn't for Ben_Newsam's reply.
I pay Cotse.NET 6 dollars per month for the right to FTP_Upload
150 megs of files, on-the-fly email aliases, etc.
But I think Yahoo.COM and others provide
free/simpler ways to do essentially same thing ( ad-supported ).
This last picture ( snapshot-filename ) was missing the .JPG extension.
Again, it was very pixalated ( low-res ). Can you increase the resolution ?


G=EMC^2 Glazier

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Hanson To sum you up "You are an embarasment to all of humankind". You
have no morals. Would rather hate than love. You would rather stab a
person in the back than look them in the eye. You pull wings off flies.
Sad but so very true Bert

hanson

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ahahahaha...ahahahaha... AHAHAHAHA... ahahahaha....ahahahaha.
Zion-Glaser aka "G=EMC^2 Glazier" <herbert...@webtv.net>
who is a self-admitted Grave-Vandal and who yearns to piss on
peoples' graves has the chutzpah, as his ilk would say, to moralize in his
news:6395-44D...@storefull-3333.bay.webtv.net..
[Zion Herbie]
[hanson]

ahahahaha... AHAHAHAHA... ahahahaha....ahahahaha... In typical Zionist
fashion "G=EMC^2 Zion Glazier" <herbert...@webtv.net> gets mad at
me in his news:9445-44D7...@storefull-3334.bay.webtv.net...
because I reminded Zion Herbie that El had posted that Zion Herbie was
an intellectual midget and the shepherd of his 12 years old cockroach...
ahahaha ... which prompted a typical hate flare up in Zion Herbie that
revealed Zion Herbie's apparent yearning to be a necrophiliac with an
urge to vandalize graves... .
....You are an embarrassment to the Jewish community, Glaser.
<
[Zion Herbie]
> Hanson'Big Moe" had more brains than you,and the type of humankind you
> represent. He did not kill nor eat his ownkind. Big Moe has been dead
> for 6 years. He is remembered. Six years after you are dead people will
> piss on your grave. Bert
>
[hanson's prior post]
ahahahaha... AHAHAHAHA... ahahahaha....ahahahaha...
Poor Zion Herbie "G=EMC^2 Glazier" <herbert...@webtv.net> w/i
news:26827-44D...@storefull-3335.bay.webtv.net...
that he has an EL fetish that overwhelms him so completely that it
gives him nightmares & negates the effects of Zion Herbie's Viagra
regimen. EL's ghost discombobulates Zion-Herbie so profusely that

Sam Wormley

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Feynman considered String theory to be a nonsense theory.

String theory, or some version of it may turn out to be correct, but
keep in mind that string theory has yet to make a testable prediction
which so far makes it philosophy and not science!

T Wake

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"G=EMC^2 Glazier" <herbert...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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I think we have found something we agree on.


G=EMC^2 Glazier

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Sam Philosophy and not science is a play on words. Aristotle is still in
every science book. Go figure Bert

Jeff…Relf

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Aug 8, 2006, 3:10:12 PM8/8/06
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Hi Bert, You noted:

God is a killer of humankind. More people in this spacetime
have been killed in the name of Gods than any spacetime in the past.
Very possibly when the last human dies he will cry out "ALLAH" and
be dead before he hits the ground. Boston priests rape children.

Most people blame God for births too... not just deaths/molestations.
My gods ( e.g. my Land_Lords ) often fuck me in the ass ( so to speak );
and I sometimes lord it over those under my domain ( for better or worse ).
Isn't that what sex/kids are all about ?
U.S.A./Europe must be Iraq/Iran's God/Land_Lord,
because Iraq/Iran are taking it in the ass too !
What is God ? ( according to you ). I say it's like this:

Like you're God to the mice you raise to feed your snake,
you're God's prisoner and God to your prisoners.
Entropy is the top God because, like a lit match,
consumption ( i.e. Dissipation/Entropy ) Creates/Destroys everything.

and these are God's most basic rules:

Time is pseudo-directional ( i.e. spatial )
because, like a dice toss is known to be pseudorandom ( i.e. causal ),
all randomness is pseudorandom.
The first law of thermodynamics posits that
the mass-energy of a closed system is constant.
And the second law says that that mass-energy spontaneously dissipates.
Gravity is a temporary reversal of entropy ( like winning the jackpot )
but it's emprisoned in a virtual casino... the house always wins in the end.
The _Hard_ facts are that Each/All Is/Are imprisoned in a virtual casino
where the house always wins in the end... not one exception has been found.


Phineas T PuddleDuck

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In article <Jeff_Relf_20...@Cotse.NET>,
JeffŠRelf <Jeff...@Yahoo.COM> wrote:

> Time is pseudo-directional ( i.e. spatial )
> because, like a dice toss is known to be pseudorandom ( i.e. causal ),
> all randomness is pseudorandom.

There is no way that you can say that. If one thing is not truly random, it
doesn't mean everything is. You truly are a fucking idiot.

hanson

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The Wanker aka "T Wake" <usenet...@gishpuppy.com>
who is hoping to play with/at/in Zion-Herbie's fly wrote
in message news:QsudnVfaPJg...@pipex.net...
>
> Zion-Herbie aka "G=EMC^2 Glazier" <herbert...@webtv.net> wrote

> in message news:6395-44D...@storefull-3333.bay.webtv.net...
>> Hanson To sum you up "You are an embarasment to all of humankind".
>> You have no morals. Would rather hate than love. You would rather stab a
>> person in the back than look them in the eye. You pull wings off flies.
>> Sad but so very true Bert
>>
[The Wanker to Zion-Herbie]

> I think we have found something we agree on.
>
[hanson]
AHAHAHA... so, Wanker, you agree with Zion-Herbie that you are
like him: "pulling wings off your flies" to do your wankering... ahahaha..
But, have fun with each others flies, you 2 geriatric jerk-off artists.
....ahahaha...
>
... or Wanker, are you one of his ilk, a Zionist, coming to the aid of and
lend comfort to 2-faced Zion-Herbie? Is that what this is all about? Are
also a Kolker advocate? ... I told you before, Gish-Wanker, that you
are suspect and now you show all the tell-tale ear-marks pertaining
to this here:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/781f5c8238702022


Sam Wormley

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Aug 9, 2006, 2:33:11 AM8/9/06
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G=EMC^2 Glazier wrote:
> Sam Philosophy and not science is a play on words. Aristotle is still in
> every science book. Go figure Bert
>

In my Halliday & Resnick, Herb?

Schoenfeld

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Why The Physics Establishment Is A Historical Laughing Stock

An examination of this video

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7750532340306101329

reveals that the collapse of WTC 7 started at second 17 and completed
at second 23. That is a total of 6 seconds.

It can be easily shown that this building collapsed in the same time it
would take an apple to fall from the roof of this building and hit the
ground - a freefall.

Let's do a simple calculation:

distance travelled = initial velocity * total time + 1/2 *
acceleration * total time^2

or

s = ut + 1/2at^2

Since the apple was stationary before falling (just like building was
prior to collapse), u = 0.

Since the height of the building was 174 meters, s = 174.

Since we are at ground level the gravitational field strength is a
constant, so a = 9.8 m/s^2

Now,
174 = 0 t + 1/2 9.8 t^2

Solving for t
t = sqrt( 2 * 174 / 9.8)
= 5.9590

Well look at that, an apple would take 6 seconds to fall from the roof
of WTC 7, just the same amount of time it took WTC 7 to collapse.

The 10 year old intellect can easily deduce then that WTC 7 must've
freefallen, further deducing that the ENTIRE STRUCTURE MUST'VE
COLLAPSED SIMULTANEOUSLY.

No minor fires can do that, _ONLY_ synchronized explosions can.

That, ladies and gentleman, evidently exceeds the boundaries of the
competence of our 'leading physicists' - the Wittens of the world, the
Wheelers, their loyal groupies, those so called 'experts' who love to
sell fables on gravitation and call others 'laymen', those who love to
tell others that they 'have no chance'.

Sam Wormley

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Aug 9, 2006, 10:43:37 AM8/9/06
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Schoenfeld wrote:
> Sam Wormley wrote:
>> G=EMC^2 Glazier wrote:
>>> Sam Philosophy and not science is a play on words. Aristotle is still in
>>> every science book. Go figure Bert
>>>
>> In my Halliday & Resnick, Herb?
>
>
> Why The Physics Establishment Is A Historical Laughing Stock
>

You are out of control Schoenfeld... many of us will have to
relocate you to our kill files.

Jeff…Relf

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Aug 9, 2006, 10:49:19 AM8/9/06
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Hi Ha_Ha_Hanson, I haven't the tiniest clue why you think Bert is a Zionist.
Unlike you, he doesn't Fund/Support the U.S.'s domination of the Middle_East.
As I said, U.S.A./Europe are demonstrably the God/Land_Lord of the Middle_East.

God is great indeed.


Jeff…Relf

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Aug 9, 2006, 10:55:56 AM8/9/06
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Hi Sam_Wormley,
Getting plonked by you is a fate ( slightly ) worse than Bliss.


hanson

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Aug 9, 2006, 1:17:00 PM8/9/06
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"Jeff.Relf" <Jeff...@Yahoo.COM> wrote in message
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> I haven't the tiniest clue why you think Bert is a Zionist.
> Unlike you, he doesn't Fund/Support the U.S.'s domination of the ME.

> U.S.A./Europe are demonstrably the God/Land_Lord of the Middle_East.
> God is great indeed.
>
[hanson]
... ahahaha... AHAHAHA.... ahahaha.....Jeff, not only in your 1st line
above, but in ALL 4 of your lines you really have only a relfy clue,
which less than the tiniest one, for what this is all about.
So, here it is again, for your benefit, for you to gain a clue one day.
Hint: think globally, not religiously pedestrian, like you do now.
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/781f5c8238702022
As usual, Jeff, thanks. You are always good for a chuckle.
ahahaha... ahahanson

Jeff…Relf

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Aug 9, 2006, 3:46:57 PM8/9/06
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Hi Ha_Ha_Hanson, Re: Google.COM/group/sci.physics/msg/781f5c8238702022

I've read that several times now... slowly, carefully;
yet I don't see _Any_ evidence of Zionism in Bert ! none at all.
While you, on the other hand, fund U.S. imperialism accross the Globe,
thanks to the ( voluntary ) taxes you pay.
The first-class citizens of this world ( i.e. the U.S. and Euro_Zone ),
are the Land_Lords of the Middle_East... the Middle_East's virtual God.

Moving on to a more personal topic...
I think my Patinha has found a richer suger daddy.
He's a ( straight ) banker who owns two houses ( and a dog ).
Oh well... it had to happen sooner or later.
I've lost her before ( for a while ) to young heroin dealers.
Her last one ( Crandon ) will likely be locked up for a long time.
She usually comes back to me; this Straight/Rich dude is an interesting twist.


G=EMC^2 Glazier

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Aug 9, 2006, 3:41:04 PM8/9/06
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Jeff Low life's who have not the wit to argue,always resort to name
calling Ha Ha Ha Hanson has me belonging to a Zionist group. In reality
I belong to know group. Fact is the only group I ever belong to was my
"poker group" It died out. I'm its last member,and every time I deal my
self a hand I keep coming up 10's and 8's He is right about me being
old(I am) He is right about me having eating Matzo balls and chicken
soup(just once) I hated it. Chicken soup like dish water. Mutzo balls
like eating raw dough.(ug) Do like kinishes,lox bagels with cream
cheese. and cold borsh in the Summer. Jewish red wine is fair,but
give me Bud light (like now) Cheers.and good will to all Mihyum
skool.God bless,and chow bert

Jeff…Relf

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Aug 9, 2006, 4:15:18 PM8/9/06
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Hi Bert ( the _Fanatical_ ! Zionist, ha ha ), Re: Your email to me,

Your pictures have a very low Horizontal/Vertical pixel count ( resolution ).
It was very pixelated, see: WikiPedia.ORG/wiki/Pixelation
This has nothing to do with the focus. Can you increase the resolution ?
My guess is that you know next to nothing about computers,
so maybe this isn't the best topic for us to be discussing.


hanson

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Aug 9, 2006, 7:04:20 PM8/9/06
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"Jeff.Relf" <Jeff...@Yahoo.COM> wrote in message
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> I've read that several times now... slowly, carefully;
> yet I don't see....
>
[hanson]
ahahaha...... Does that surprise you?. .... ahahahaha...
It doesn't surprise me that you can't see. Try again, Jeff.

Hint: think globally, not religiously pedestrian, like you do now.
So, here it is again, for your benefit, for you to gain a clue one day.
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/781f5c8238702022
>
[Jeff]

> Moving on to a more personal topic...
> I think my Patinha has found a richer suger daddy.
>
[hanson]
So, IOW, you were just her **NOT so rich** sugar daddy?
Impressive... ahahaha... but, "money talks--your bullshit walks".
"Sad but true" as your intellectual role model Zion-Herbie
would say, Jeff. So, go ask Zion Herbie for advice.
Zion-Hebie will lend you his "helping hand on your fly". He said so.
Maybe the other one, The Wanker, will join you two for a circle jerk...
ahahaha... Don't let Patinha catch you.... or all bets are off!
>
[Jeff]
> He's a ( straight ) banker who owns two houses ( and a dog ). [2]
>
[hanson]
Now, that is a truly impressive riches... enviable... especially the dog.
There must be only 1 or 2 people in the entire world who have
attained such a cornucopia of wealth... Make friends with Mr. Banker,
the Wanker, maybe it'll rub off on you and you can stand side by
side with tj Frazir, the multi-Billionaire... who will be jealous of you
Jeff, and instantly say in his astonishment and grief:
[tj:: >>> Callffffff calllffff , Im sick , some one role me a joint ! ]
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/7b2bb5bdf707cecd >
>
[Jeff]

> I think my Patinha has found a richer suger daddy.
> Oh well... it had to happen sooner or later.

[hanson]
Jeff, don't cry now....For a consolation price always remember:
---------- Easy come -- Easy go -----------

[Jeff]


> I've lost her before ( for a while ) to young heroin dealers.

[hanson]
See!.. maybe her banker does bank-roll her dealers,
and Patinha gets interests, commission, finders fees, etc....
So, in view of all these financial potentials why should she stay
with you, Jeff, you with your religiously pedestrian attitude that
doesn't allow you to see how to make money?
Give her a break, for crying out loud. But Jeff, hang onto her...
for "why" see below:
>
[Jeff]


> Her last one ( Crandon ) will likely be locked up for a long time.
>

[hanson]
Are you sure that this wasn't *Branson*, the limey fat cat,
Sir Richard Branson, Founder of Virgin music Group and Virgin Airlines.
It appears that you are moving amongst the rich and famous, but
you with your religiously pedestrian attitude just do not see it,
just like you can't see Zion-Herbie's leanings and preferences.
>
[Jeff]


> She usually comes back to me; this Straight/Rich dude is an interesting
> twist.
>

[hanson]
Well, the get with the program, Jeff. Play Patinha's pimp, hanger-on,
coat tail rider, impresario, her agent, whatever it takes... in/for
another interesting twist in your torrid soap opera saga.
Shed your religiously pedestrian attitude and fly with them....
Do it and she'll come back and both of you will be the 21 century's
(non-armed, but well heeled) Bonnie and Clide couple..

See, Jeff, you are always good for a chuckle....... ahahaha....
ahahaha... ahahanson


hanson

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AHAHAHAHA.... ahahahaha... AHAHHAHAHA... and here come
ahaha... the 3rd self-aggrandizing post from Zion-Herbie... ahahaha...
"G=EMC^2 Glazier" <herbert...@webtv.net> who wrote in message
news:26827-44D...@storefull-3335.bay.webtv.net...
> ".....Low life's who have not the wit to argue,always resort to name
> calling"... exactly like, I, Zion Herbie do, just as I have posted in
> here:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/781f5c8238702022:
ZH: "Six years after you are dead people will piss on your grave".
ZH: "You would rather stab a person in the back than look them in the eye".
ZH: "You pull wings off flies"
>
[Zion Herbie, the self anointed, name calling low-life]
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/781f5c8238702022:

> Ha Ha Ha Hanson has me belonging to a Zionist group. In reality
> I belong to know group. Fact is the only group I ever belong to was my
> "poker group" It died out. I'm its last member,and every time I deal my
> self a hand I keep coming up 10's and 8's He is right about me being
> old(I am) He is right about me having eating Matzo balls and chicken
> soup(just once) I hated it. Chicken soup like dish water. Mutzo balls
> like eating raw dough.(ug) Do like kinishes,lox bagels with cream
> cheese. and cold borsh in the Summer. Jewish red wine is fair,but
> give me Bud light (like now) Cheers.and good will to all Mihyum
> skool.God bless,and chow bert
>
[hanson]
Now then, Zion-Herbie, like you gave me your valuable advice in here
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/781f5c8238702022
let me return the favor & point you towards the section wherein I said
in http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/781f5c8238702022
Zion-Herbie, ... "have a ham sandwich and plenty of crispy pork rind
with a good Lager to ameliorate your" condition. See, Zion-Hebie,
with your love for Bud you are already 1/3rd of the way there... ahahaha...
Isn't that fair enough, Zion-Herbie?
ahahaha... ahahahanson

Jeff…Relf

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Hi Ha_Ha_Hanson, I'm enjoying Joe_Cocker's _Dont_Let_Me_Be_Misunderstood_
featured in the closing credits of the 2004 movie called Layer_Cake.
Layer_Cake has a lot of British slang in it, I almost needed sub-titles.

Cotse.NET/users/jeffrelf/_Dont_Let_Me_Be_Misunderstood_.MP3

Speaking of my Patinha...

There was a big guy who kicked down a door next to mine,
and the word is he was looking for my Patinha.
I've already been bathed in glass once before
when another big Black guy ( G ) kicked in my window... yikes !
G is now dead; he took a clip in the chest ( no surpise there ).
Anyway, Patinha's latest guy ( first name is Asas, half arabic )
is a CEO of an investment company,
his office is on the 38th floor of a downtown skyscraper.
He's a multi-millionaire with many rental properties ( and two residences ).
( He's also a former dope dealer ).

As for Bert, I don't see a drop of Zionism in him.
As a man who _Voluntarily_ supports the U.S. with his taxes,
_You_ are the true Zionist/Imperialist.
As for me being " pedestrian ", I think cosmically, not just globally.

You told me:

Make friends with Mr. Banker, the Wanker,
maybe it'll rub off on you and you can stand side by side with tj Frazir,
the multi-Billionaire... who will be jealous of you Jeff, and
instantly say in his astonishment and grief:

Callffffff calllffff , Im sick , some one role me a joint !

Google.COM/group/sci.physics/msg/7b2bb5bdf707cecd

I told you I think T.J. is smuggler ( like all good U.S/Canadian Indians ).
That's why he's a man without a country ( to extract taxes for their wars ),
floating on a Bahamas registered ship, the ResidenSea.
T.J.'s rules: Smoking a joint ? fine. Carrying a camera ? no can do.
T.J. offered me a job ( like he did to Uncle Al ), and I refused;
so now he hates my ass. I don't want to be a Trader/Shipper/Warehouser.

Re: My inability to keep Patinha, you told me:

Jeff, don't cry now... For a consolation price always remember:



---------- Easy come -- Easy go -----------

I did nothing to get her, she found me... so you have a _Solid_ point there.
She wouldn't touch me with a ten foot pole ( even after 12 months ),
and I have to look at her sexy ass all the time... so I hope she does go.
I don't need company... I _Never_ get loney, not in all my 46 years.

You told me:

Well, the get with the program, Jeff. Play Patinha's pimp, hanger-on,

coat tail rider, impresario, her agent, whatever it takes,
...in/for another interesting twist in your torrid soap opera saga.


Shed your religiously pedestrian attitude and fly with them.

Do it and she'll come back and both of you will be the 21 century's
( non-armed, but well heeled ) Bonnie and Clide couple..

I'm not out to get money.
One dollar is one vote... and I've never cared about who voted for me.
I just hope I don't lose my job, my home, and get shot all on the same day.


hanson

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"Jeff.Relf" <Jeff...@Yahoo.COM> wrote in message
news:Jeff_Relf_20...@Cotse.NET...
> As for Bert, I don't see a drop of Zionism in him.
> As a man who _Voluntarily_ supports the U.S. with his taxes,
> _You_ are the true Zionist/Imperialist.
>
[hanson]
...... ahahahaha.... ahahaha... AHAHAHA.... well, well,
IOW then, apparently you like to stroke Zion-Herbie's fly.
Hey, whatever floats your boat, Jeff... Some see. You don't.
But here, for your benefit, is the source material for your yearning.
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/781f5c8238702022

ahahaha ... So, it doesn't surprise me now that you think I am
Jewish. You have asked me that before and now you insist
that I am such. AHAHAHA..... Your inverted notion has bubbled
up in you because you have infected yourself with a virulent
variant of the Stockholm syndrome. And now, that I have you
going, it is time for you to have an appointment at Ravencrag:
http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/cobrajal.htm#Ravencrag
http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/cobrajal.htm#Hanson.
>
[Jeff].


> I just hope I don't lose my job, my home, and get shot all on the same
> day.
>

[hanson]
It doesn't surprise me if you do, for the same but anti-parallel
reason I mentioned in my paragraph above. Not only is your
thinking religiously pedestrian, but now it's ass backwards to boot....
ahahaha...
But see, Jeff, as said, you are always good for a chuckle.......
ahahaha... ahahanson


Jeff…Relf

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Aug 10, 2006, 2:42:46 AM8/10/06
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Hi Ha_Ha_Hanson, You don't have to be Jewish ( or even White )
to be a hard-core Zionist/Imperialist; e.g. Bob Marley was famously a Zionist.

Thinking back on my time with T.J., it just occured to me that
Patinha is even less likely than me to " work " for a seriously rich dude.
While I'm a bit of a stray dog, she's a full-out feral cat.
She's with him right now... so I guess she'll be learning that for herself.
The last guy she had bare sex with has AIDS ( not just HIV ).
She was shooting up six times a day before her Heroin_Daddy got locked up.
So I think it's safe to assume she'll have HIV before too long.
She applied for welfare money, medical coupons, and free housing today.
Although the rules are very different for hard-core drug addicts,
( especially cute/young girls ) I'm very curious about how it'll play out.
If they place any kind of restrictions on her she'll stick with me instead.
I've gone with her to the welfare office ( dragged her, really )
and I've filled out forms for her and held her hand ( so to speak ),
so it's not like I want that option to fail.


tj Frazir

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Aug 10, 2006, 10:23:52 AM8/10/06
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Ha Ha handy hanson .
Hay Glazer ,,ask nasa to drop you a rock so you can film it hitting
the gound .

Cape Horn shipping lane with deep 2 and giant 4 . the 1980 wreck of
a 70,000 ton container ship .
Its deep at 9000 feet but one hole picks up a container with one cable
.
1/2 the containers fell off befor it sank and lef a line of 40 foot
boxes for 5 miles .
1200 boxes lost with 500 still grabbed down on the deck .
50 boxes of silver rods for stamping 20 ton each.
and anything else worth a fuck.
100 tons of silver is worth picking up 1200 boxes.
rov cuts cable and rods and mans a cable expaning plug for container
plucking .
There is SOOOOOO many wrecks down here the bottom is a clean dead
junkyard 1000s of years old.
Many ships got to this west turn just to find out the ship might not
handle the waves of the atlantic and pacific coliding and raised peaks
and road waves .
Just this one container ship had a 40 million load. Its 50 % good. but
26 years older.
The 50 % thats good is worth much more.
so far we found 200 containers of teakwood slabs .
Its a strange place where ships dont all rot.
No curents under 5000 feet and near 0 sediments per 1000 years.
Its a dish between evry undewater mountain full of acids that biuld up
and never gets out from the pit when a ship falls in and is preserved
in this high trafic high danger aria.
Its mid winter at cape horn and is fucking dang-are-us.
free junk at the sea floors giant 4 junkyard .
I old car hunt down here,,hell I found old cars in the great lakes that
went down on ferrys in the 10s 20s 30s 40s 50s 60s
You cant not find one in some places.
Mac bridge mi aeria has an underwater junk yard from dumping cars for 50
years.
One day we picked up 100 cars and 20 harleys sold for 20 million for 10
hours .
The millwalky ferry had a load of new cars and 4 box cars with 3 cars
in each fell off the back and sit 1 mile from the wreck and are not
protected . 1, 200,000 per car easy.
they are in perfect condition .
packards custom coaches 10
dodge trucks 32
olds 4 door sadans 5

hanson

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Aug 10, 2006, 10:57:30 AM8/10/06
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Dear Mr. Relf,
Ravencrag is not interested in your antics with your brown
nor green issues, be that Bob Marley, your Zionist Doper
or Patinha, your AIDS Druggie.
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/037a9d0f8fb3495f
RPAC which is responsible for PASC has determined that
you were conditioned, brainwashed, infected, afflicted and
are now suffering from ZCSS, severely, aggravated by your
genetic predisposition for LSA, manifesting itself and flaring
up especially intensive during full moon periods +/- 3d .
As you can see, Mr. Relf, today is such an event occurrence.
Therefore Mr. Relf, please post all your answers to the questions
contained in the RPAQ that has been delivered to you via/by our
couriers approximately on 0435 hours, 10 August, 2006, to your
hovel in Seattle, WA, USA. -- After your posted answers to the
RPAQ have been evaluated by RPAC, we will get in touch with
you with further instruction steps for your internment at Ravencrag
in order to administer to you properly to ameliorate your sorry
to miserable state of your quality of life in you current existence.
Respectfully,
RPAC

RPAC = Ravencrag Pre Admission Committee
RPAQ = Ravencrag Pre Admission Questionnaire
PASC = Pre Admission Screening Conditions
LSA = Lunatic Sensitivity Affliction
ZCSS = Zionist Caused Stockholm Syndrome

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hanson

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Aug 10, 2006, 11:30:05 AM8/10/06
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Dear Captn Frazir
Your latest financial statement, submitted/seen below, about
your holdings in the "millwalky ferry" which is resting and
retrievable, with one cable, from the deep in the "Cape Horn
shipping lane" is acknowledged. However the, poor, almost
bankrupt state of your portfolio shows that there are not
sufficient funds on deposit in your account, a situation so
meager, that maritime law does not allow us to send you a
second cable to complete the hoist/heist of your sub-sea
junk from that "underwater mountain full of acids"
Captn Frazir, please advise,

AHAHAHAHA....ahaha... ahahanson
>
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tj Frazir

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Aug 10, 2006, 11:31:46 AM8/10/06
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The 4 cyclinder lpe gen sets are still crankin.
The 3x40 inch cylinder fills with water in 2 sec.
Inject 150 psi 4 cubic inch air in top..
open the flap fom the cylinder end into the 500 psi tank and re-compress
the 150 psi air pocket to 500 psi then inject gas and O2 ( rocket
fuel.)
2800 Pmax 1 second expansion as big as the blast bubble gets and the
flap slam shut when the bubble colaps. The water forced into the tank
raises the water level and compressed air in the tanks top.
500 psi turns a flat vane sliding vane rotor with an inne cam wheel
as the throddle.
One cyclinder can fire evry sec.
1/8.25 the gas air intake and 13 times the HP.
In tems of you car ,,each cyclinder has 132 inches of intake gas air pe
cyclinder per second. 1000 intake inches all 8 cyclinders to get 300
HP.
LPE uses 16 inches per second of intake gas air . 300 HP. but has up
to 4000 foot pounds .
Im not converting thrust into rotation ,,thats only 10 % effective .
Crranks an pistons convert 1000 pounds of thrust into 10 HP.
Converting it into potenutal energy as big as the bubble can get any
length of time it takes to expand and saving it all in a tank waist jack
shit.
O2 makes gas air 5 times stronger .
And steam kocked up to 500 psi with intake air
injected with o2 is a good stroke with no gas to remove some heat to
controle the boil of the water I run in the engine running 1 gal for
evry 8.25 you use in your car.
8 times your MPG befor ballanced gas air steam TGOTB.
running 1200 pound tank with 1000 pound compresion 22 intake inch pe
stroke 1 sec 60 inch long .
2200 foot pounds at 1000 rpm all day on gen set.


tj Frazir

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Aug 10, 2006, 11:54:15 AM8/10/06
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I can allways tell when hanson is smokin dope.
At This instant Im shure he's tooooo stoned t give a fuck and wll want
on like a lost luniticK
I think he ran aground and went to rust ,,
No one ever sat at the helm and he's stoned aground rusty and round.
You should park your ass on a 1000 ton ship and go buy off the streets
around china.
Go grab 5 cents on te buck a few times .
go drop 100,000 bucks in the hold and hand10,000 to customs and sell it
till the boats unloaded and go back and shop till its loaded.
TJ's faimouse 100 million buck shopping spree in HK . 1 billion bucks
put wallmart in check for 1.5 billion and had a very good year.
I made em pay cuz I buy it all up.
with 13 billion bucks and 72 ships I can buy ad park it. I can place
market presure and wait for the price hike then flood the market with my
parked ships .
With rusha new in the wto fta ships loaded befor they got in got loaded
cheep.
By the time they got in we bought it all up.
The name of the game is load evry boat you got as cheep as you can .
then slap the market silly.
another 2 bil year Im shure.
any clown can go to mexico and buy at 5 cents and barrow 10 cents on
130 cents worth of inventory .
Your just not as smart as any clown

hanson

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Aug 10, 2006, 3:52:25 PM8/10/06
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ahahahaha... ahahaha....AHAHAHA... tj Frazir posted earlier:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/7b2bb5bdf707cecd
tj:: >>> Callffffff calllffff , Im sick , some one role me a joint ! ....
and it really embrassed tj so terribly that they got his goat
when his supplier and exchange bank posted a letter in
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/5949395eba78a9b0
that tj Frazir has grave financial woes and posted

::: Dear Captn Frazir


::: Your latest financial statement, submitted/seen below, about
::: your holdings in the "millwalky ferry" which is resting and
::: retrievable, with one cable, from the deep in the "Cape Horn
::: shipping lane" is acknowledged. However the, poor, almost
::: bankrupt state of your portfolio shows that there are not
::: sufficient funds on deposit in your account, a situation so
::: meager, that maritime law does not allow us to send you a
::: second cable to complete the hoist/heist of your sub-sea
::: junk from that "underwater mountain full of acids"
::: Captn Frazir, please advise,

This unfortunate & untimely bad-news made tj trash wildly in his
almost bankrupt condition in the sea near "rusha" & after another
tj:: >>> Callffffff calllffff , Im sick , some one role me a joint !,
TJ in his state of being a lost "luniticK" now gave the following
advice to his bank and supplier (see more details below).

tj:: I made em pay cuz I buy it all up... With rusha, then flood
tj:: the market with TJ's fai mouse [&] my parked ships...

ahahahaha... AHAHAHAHA... ahahahaha... AHAHAHA...
Now then, TJ, why are you getting so nasty with me when
you have such a wonderful strategic plan to make money
which even involve your mouse "Fai" and its tick "luni" ?

Really tj, if you had the money you tell us you have then you
wouldn't have seen any reason to get mad at me... After all it
was me, sober as always, who did you a gargantuan
selfless favor and published it with the goal that all these
many investors who languish here in sci.physics do see
a golden opportunity in your lucrative operation and come
forward....so that you can "made em pay" etc....

But now, with your ghoulish attack on me it has become
apparent that you are a pauper just like Jeff Relf is
..... ahahahaha... AHAHAHA....
YET, tj, don't let this revelation cramp your style.
I still love your grand stories all the same.
Carry-on deckhand Thomson.... ahahaha...
Thanks for they laughs, tj,
ahahaha... ahahahanson

PS:
tj, when is the next review due with a chance for you to become purser?

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Jeff…Relf

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Aug 10, 2006, 7:35:01 PM8/10/06
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Hi Ha_Ha_Hanson, Despite T.J.'s lack of English/Computer literacy, he is
a very wealthy Timber_Lord/Paper_Producer/Explorer/Trader/Shipper/Warehouser.
Why he expects us to emulate him is a mystery to me;
perhaps he imagines everyone needs his own limo driver.
You and I, Hanson, would likely live longer if we did
( unless we died from sheer boredom ).
My Patinha might die before I do, she's living quite fast.


Phineas T PuddleDuck

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Aug 10, 2006, 8:31:04 PM8/10/06
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In article <Jeff_Relf_200...@Cotse.NET>,
JeffŠRelf <Jeff...@Yahoo.COM> wrote:

> Hi Ha_Ha_Hanson, Despite T.J.'s lack of English/Computer literacy, he is
> a very wealthy Timber_Lord/Paper_Producer/Explorer/Trader/Shipper/Warehouser.

Are you still gullible enough to believe this? I have a bridge for sale you
might be interested in....

freaspe...@hotmail.com

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Aug 10, 2006, 9:07:05 PM8/10/06
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Phineas T PuddleDuck wrote:
> In article <Jeff_Relf_200...@Cotse.NET>,
> JeffŠRelf <Jeff...@Yahoo.COM> wrote:
>
> > Hi Ha_Ha_Hanson, Despite T.J.'s lack of English/Computer literacy, he is
> > a very wealthy Timber_Lord/Paper_Producer/Explorer/Trader/Shipper/Warehouser.
>
> Are you still gullible enough to believe this? I have a bridge for sale you
> might be interested in....
>
I noticed you used the word "gullible". Oddly enough,
this is not really an actual English word. If you check your
dictionary, you'll see that I'm right.

Bill Snyder

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Aug 10, 2006, 9:16:04 PM8/10/06
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But only because the Illuminati, working behind the scenes, got it
taken out of the dictionary. Along with fnord.

--
Bill Snyder [This space unintentionally left blank.]

hanson

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<freaspe...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1155258425.8...@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...

> In article <Jeff_Relf_200...@Cotse.NET>,


> JeffSRelf <Jeff...@Yahoo.COM> wrote:
> > Hi Ha_Ha_Hanson, Despite T.J.'s lack of English/Computer literacy, he
> > is
> > a very wealthy
> > Timber_Lord/Paper_Producer/Explorer/Trader/Shipper/Warehouser.
>

[Phineas T PuddleDuck]


> Are you still gullible enough to believe this?
> I have a bridge for sale you might be interested in....
>

[freakspeachstore]


I noticed you used the word "gullible". Oddly enough,
this is not really an actual English word. If you check your
dictionary, you'll see that I'm right.

[hanson]
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/gullible
http://www.wordreference.com/definition/gullible
ahahaha... ahahahanson


tj Frazir

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Aug 11, 2006, 12:22:00 PM8/11/06
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A poor idiot like you in forida wishing you had 1 fucking million !!
$ 50,000 bucks X 20 is 5 cents on a buck.
$ 50, 000 bucks to rent a store for 2 years and 15000 for expence
shipping 5000 terrif and 5 for you pocket for a month .
Thats 5 cents spent in mexico plus 5 cents o work with is 10 cents on a
buck.
Most banks will lend 10 % against the inventory when no bank will lend
80 % and you dont have 20 % !!
Your just a fucking idiot.
If only you wunt so dumb yud be rich .
what fucking moron dont have a million bucks and cant barrow 7 % of 1
mil inventory ?
then mark it up 400 % on the shelf !!!
4 million shelf price .
you paid 3 bucks pe pair of induma jeens and sold them at 35 bucks.
You got felt cowboy hats at 2 bucks and sold for 50 each .
You got shirts made for 2 bucks and sold at 25 bucks .
You got 1000s of cool items cheep and use them for show bait.
A few million bucks is nothing and your worthless

tj Frazir

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Aug 11, 2006, 12:45:11 PM8/11/06
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when a ship sinks today its GPS ad on radar .
If containers fall off GPS marks the spot.
Any dumbass with a cheep rov can stick a cable in a hole and pick up 20
tons.
If its nickle its 9 bucks 360,000 bucks a box.
If a cam is on the end of hook and ou pull up 40,000 pounds of silver
solder at 10 bucks 400,000 bucks a box.
A car sitting by its self in a great lake is not protected and you can
just pull it up and go away with it.
container ships sink evry day !!!
Jeens are 15 bucks per pound in usa.
20 containers 40 ton each levi fell off .
shoes ..10 bucks per pound but only 20 ton in a 40 foot box.
at 250,000 bucks to 400,000 bucks a box and 15 minutes to yank a box
up and stack it
from a pile of 1200 containers .
in an aerial of 1000 container ships sunk is 350000 containers lost at
cape horn .
its 7000 feet deep.
sea is near 20 feet its winter.
its 23 deg F.
we open evry box.
no box gets tossed back.
Thats a 40 million buck load sunk 1200 boxes.
Its sold for 20 million if we get evry box in 2 weeks.
1 bulker 145000 ton 10 million
1 deep 2 ice breaker cargo ship 17 million
5 mil in toys made a billion bucks in 1 year.

tj Frazir

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Aug 11, 2006, 1:03:43 PM8/11/06
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Thats no steel cable .
Thats 100 times stronger and steel gets briddle that cold .
steel is 4 pound foot 40,000 pound of cable.
This is 1000 pound and roles up better.
toke toke
Have a spring pin to slap in one hole on any corner and haul it up.
and moron could do this .
100,000 boxes fall off ships in the atlantic lanes evry year for 35
years .
40 years ago a big 20 ton box of bellbottoms fell to the sea floor ,
what kind of money would you give fo a 40 yea old pair of pants ?
Or maybe its a 35 year old set of clubs but there is somthing in a box
you might want just because you have not seen it in 30 years.
A favorite T shirt im shure.
Im wearing one streched out xxx large T with a Beep beep my ass
roadrunner !
we dont pick up reeffer cold boxes.

hanson

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Aug 11, 2006, 2:16:25 PM8/11/06
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This not such a good story, tj, your lies are too small and too feeble,
This here was much much better:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/52a558592b2e43bd
Bring on a better tale again, return to the Big Lie, that is more
believable.
ahahaha... ahahanson

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hanson

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Aug 11, 2006, 2:16:25 PM8/11/06
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This not such a good story, tj, your lie is too small and too feeble,
because if your tale were fact & it would be that easy, then hordes
of people and fleets of vessels would do such salvage operations.
Bring on a better tale, with a Big Lie, that is more believable.

ahahaha... ahahanson
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hanson

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Aug 11, 2006, 2:16:26 PM8/11/06
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"Beep beep my ass" is the only good line in your post.

Bring on a better tale, with a Big Lie, that is more believable.
ahahaha... ahahanson
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Randy Poe

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Aug 11, 2006, 2:19:40 PM8/11/06
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Half a clue to hahahahanson: What word would you use
to describe a person who had to go check a dictionary
after being told "gullible" wasn't in it?

- Randy

Jeff…Relf

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Aug 11, 2006, 2:56:48 PM8/11/06
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Hi Ha_Ha_Hanson, T.J. ( essentially ) told you:

Aerial photos of cape horn show a thousand sunken Container_Ships,
( that's .35 million lost containers ).
They're 7 thousand feet down, below 20 foot waves; it's winter, 23 deg F.
We open every box; no box gets tossed back.
We're salvaging 1,200 sunken boxes worth USD 40 million and
it'll be sold for 20 million if we get every box in 2 weeks.
We [ grossed ? ] a billion bucks in 1 year with just:

1 bulker ( 145 thousand tons ): 10 million
1 Deep_2 ice breaker cargo ship: 17 million
Assorted toys: 5 million

You told T.J.:

This not such a good story, tj, your lie is too small and too feeble,
because if your tale were fact & it would be that easy, then hordes
of people and fleets of vessels would do such salvage operations.
Bring on a better tale, with a Big Lie, that is more believable.
ahahaha... ahahanson

He's not lying Hanson; but, as you noted, few others could do it;
certainly not you or me ( or " any idiot ", as T.J. claims ).
A freezing sea with 20 foot waves sounds dangerous... I'd turn green for sure.
All I have to do ( to pay my living expenses ) is
code a bit while lying in bed and FTP/email the results... much nicer.
T.J. will never truly understand my life, nor I his... pois é.


hanson

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Aug 11, 2006, 3:01:01 PM8/11/06
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"Randy Poe" <poespa...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1155320371.3...@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...

>> <freaspe...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1155258425.8...@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> > In article <Jeff_Relf_200...@Cotse.NET>,
>> > JeffSRelf <Jeff...@Yahoo.COM> wrote:
>> > > Hi Ha_Ha_Hanson, Despite T.J.'s lack of English/Computer literacy,
>> > > he
>> > > is
>> > > a very wealthy
>> > > Timber_Lord/Paper_Producer/Explorer/Trader/Shipper/Warehouser.
>> >
>> [Phineas T PuddleDuck]
>> > Are you still gullible enough to believe this?
>> > I have a bridge for sale you might be interested in....
>> >
>> [freakspeachstore]
>> I noticed you used the word "gullible". Oddly enough,
>> this is not really an actual English word. If you check your
>> dictionary, you'll see that I'm right.
>>
>> [hanson]
>> http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/gullible
>> http://www.wordreference.com/definition/gullible
>> ahahaha... ahahahanson
>
[Randy Poe]

> Half a clue to hahahahanson: What word would you use
> to describe a person who had to go check a dictionary
> after being told "gullible" wasn't in it?
> - Randy
>
[hanson]
... ahahaha... Now, THAT leaves no choice. The word is "Poe"
Thanks for the laugh, Rand!.. ahahaha.... ahahanson

hanson

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Aug 11, 2006, 3:08:32 PM8/11/06
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Jeff, you will always remain the perennial mooch that you are.
Have you never noticed that poor people always talk in awe
of/about people who pretend/bluff to be rich?
A sucker is born every minute. They know that. You don't.
ahahahaha... ahahahanson

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Jeff…Relf

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Aug 11, 2006, 4:47:37 PM8/11/06
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Hi Ha_Ha_Hanson, You told me:

You will always remain the perennial mooch that you are.


Have you never noticed that poor people always talk in awe
of/about people who pretend/bluff to be rich ?
A sucker is born every minute. They know that. You don't.
ahahahaha... ahahahanson

T.J. thinks everyone should emulate his life, and he got mad when I refused.
He never truly offered a handout and I never truly asked for one.
But if you're into what T.J. does ( ha ha ), he's your man.
Billionaires are just ordinary people who were
in the right place, with the right stuff, at the right time.
I knew Alan_Ashton up close and personal from 1971 to 1987,
before, during and after he created Word Perfect.
He had about 11 kids and preached that sex was _Only_ for procreation, see:

In 1990 Ashton was identified by Forbes magazine as
one of the 400 wealthiest individuals in the U.S..
WikiPedia.ORG/wiki/Alan_Ashton

My Patinha is a bit of a Bag_Whore, trading sex for heroin/cocain injections.
So I've come to think of ejactulation as just another Mind_Altering drug,
i.e. I've recently decided to no longer do it ( better late than never ).
But, unlike Alan, I never wanted 11 kids; my ex even left me over the issue.


tj Frazir

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Aug 12, 2006, 12:57:18 PM8/12/06
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Hords and fleets ??
50 on the east coast and 15 on the west coast.
65 ships do it.
Then in UK Giant does it.
SHURE as it gets much easyer the race to grab 4 trillion bucks worth of
lost cargo is on.

In evry lost scooner in the great lakes was a captans box with about 10
grand in $20 gold pices . Take an xray photo stupid of the aria and see
it and pick up a mllon bucks 10 times a day .
Its summer jackass.
In 30 feet of water in the great lakes is a box with $ 1 million 10
feet down in the muck ..and in 1000 that sunk the same .
Go take a photo of the gold 10 feet in the muck in the aria of the
wreck.
You point a gamma box at it and pull the hole cover off so the photons
go out the hole down threw the muck and bounce off the gold back to the
film protected from the gamma box.
Take an xray gamma mahine and go click.
I biult mine !! I just point the gamma box and point 20 pices of film
in the aria and go click.
click the back end of any tour dive sites and you will see the
captains box unde the stern in 15 feet of muck.
You can look up the ships name and see how much money was in it befor
you go get it.
Id rather have 100 captains boxes then 1 spanish gold ship .
melt it down and cash it in.

tj Frazir

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Aug 12, 2006, 1:16:19 PM8/12/06
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There is 300,000 cars perfect in the mud in the detroit aria .
They used the lakes as dumps.
Evry year unwanted trucks cars and the whole fucking junkyard went to
junk yard point.
I can pull cars out worth $ 1 mil each out all day long just anyplace
on the bottom around any great lake city because the cars stay perfect.
1910 limo 8 door custom coach.
the detroit press said he lost it driving across the lake and got stuck
a mile off the lake trail.
They drove across the lake back then in the winter and lost a fuck of
allot of cars.
In the past 30 years 500 cars have been added as ice fishing ice floats
away with cars on it.
I used a red laser and a one color cam and lit the bottom up in a line
in motion as a pc records . I saw nothing.
Then I used an xay laser and several cams and painted the same line in
motion with the pc and can see threw the muck and pluck out cars all day
.
A box car with crates with a harley police bike in each . never got to
hawai . it made it to my deck and they went 20 grand each

tj Frazir

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Aug 12, 2006, 7:00:38 PM8/12/06
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sample of a $ 1 Mil car found in the geat lakes
Google Image Result for
http://www.autogallery.org.ru/k/a/32americanSteamcarroadster1_CCT.jpg
Address:http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.autogallery.org.ru/k/a/32americanSteamcarroadster1_CCT.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.autogallery.org.ru/ppreus.htm&h=182&w=289&sz=14&tbnid=XxAvqWK3Ns0nwM:&tbnh=72&tbnw=115&hl=en&start=49&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dsteam%2Bcar%2B%26start%3D40%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26sa%3DN

A phytoon 1930 the best fucking car on the planet steam car got 65 MPG
.

Steam works best with LPG O2 and NiLG for a lquid to boil.
If you trade the piston steam engine with a sliding vane water rotor
motor and use steam to run water pistons you would get 8 times the MPG
and 5 times the HP.

T Wake

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Aug 13, 2006, 3:17:32 PM8/13/06
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"Jeff.Relf" <Jeff...@Yahoo.COM> wrote in message
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> (blog babble)

Look at this, I go away for a while and you *still* cant string together a
post with anything other than your pathetic excuse for a life. You can't
help but try and make yourself (and your worthless life) the topic of
discussion.

You know less physics than a garden gnome. Do you think this is
news://alt.fan.jeff.relf.idiot ?

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