A Letter Of Einstein 1954
Bast...@aol.com
The following news was on CBC on May 15,2008:
http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2008/05/15/einstein-letter.html
{
Einstein letter dismissing God sells for
$330,000 US
Last Updated: Thursday, May 15, 2008 | 5:19 PM ET
CBC News
A letter written by Albert Einstein in which he dismissed belief in
God as a “product of human weaknesses” was auctioned off Thursday for
more than $330,000 US, destroying previous selling records of letters
by the renowned physicist.
The letter, written in German in 1954 to philosopher Eric Gutkind, was
sold in London, England, by Bloomsbury Auctions to a private
collector. It had initially been expected to fetch between $12,000 US
and $16,000 US.
“It beats the world record for an Einstein letter by about four
times," managing director Rupert Powell told the Guardian newspaper.
"It's a massive difference."
In the letter, Einstein writes "the word 'God' is for me nothing more
than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a
collection of honourable but still primitive legends which are
nevertheless pretty childish."
Einstein, who was Jewish, also rejects the notion that Jews were God’s
chosen people
"For me, the Jewish religion like all other religions is an
incarnation of the most childish superstitions,"
he wrote.
He added that "the Jewish people to whom I gladly belong, and with
whose mentality I have a deep affinity, have no different quality for
me than all other people.
“As far as my experience goes, they are also no better than other
human groups, although they are protected from the worst cancers by a
lack of power. Otherwise, I cannot see anything 'chosen' about them."
Einstein's religious and spiritual beliefs have been the subject of
much speculation by both believers and skeptics.}
Well, such an understanding demonstrates that he had an overall narrow
viewpoint about the universe.
I imagine he was possibly out of his mind a year before his death.
Dr.M.Basti
hanson
news:34112985-cc89-47d8...@d45g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
>
The following news was on CBC News on May 15,2008:
<http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2008/05/15/einstein-letter.html>
A letter written by Albert Einstein in which he dismissed
belief in God as a “product of human weaknesses” was
letter, written in German in 1954 to philosopher Eric Gutkind,
>
more than the expression and product of human weaknesses,
the Bible a collection of honourable but still primitive legends
which are nevertheless pretty childish."
>
Einstein, who was Jewish, also rejects the notion that Jews
were God’s chosen people: "For me, the Jewish religion like
all other religions is an incarnation of the most childish
superstitions," he wrote.
>
He added that "the Jewish people to whom I gladly belong, and
with whose mentality I have a deep affinity, have no different
quality for me than all other people.
>
“As far as my experience goes, they are also no better than
other human groups, although they are protected from the worst
cancers by a lack of power. Otherwise, I cannot see anything
'chosen' about them."
>
Well, such an understanding demonstrates that he had an
overall narrow viewpoint about the universe. I imagine he
was possibly out of his mind a year before his death.
Dr.M.Basti
>
Dr.M.Basti who operates anagrammically in a "Drab Mist",
just made "Bad Trims" in his assessment of Einstein's mind in
1954. Very lucidly and finally confessing in 1954, just a year
before Albert folded his relativity tent, closes his umbrella,
kicked the bucket & finally puffed, but left behind vast hordes
of his Einstein Dingleberries (1 set of which resides in this NG)
to stink up & retard the intellectual level & quality of physics,
Einstein wrote a letter to Besso in which he said:
::AE:: "I consider it quite possible that physics cannot be based
::AE:: on the field concept, i. e., on continuous structures. In that
::AE:: case nothing remains of my entire castle in the air, gravitation
::AE:: theory included, [and of] the rest of modern physics." . [ &
::AE::elsewhere] "why would anyone be interested in getting
::AE:: exact solutions of such an ephemeral set of equations?"
>
More similar comments by luminaries & N-laureates are in here:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/c515f2881d64b207>
>
As far as Einstein's notions on Jews and religion, he was not
far off the mark because he, like more and more people do
realize, that:
== Religion is a tool that is used
=== by the few to fuck the many.
==== Nobody is born religious.
===== Religion is an acquired disease.
====== Amen!... ahahahaha... OR...
======== Religion is Opium for the masses,
========= according to Marx & Lenin.
>
.... and more along the same lines here:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/4e32ed7f4f0e874e
>
Einstein apparently did realize that all religious believers and
followers of Monotheism are being mentally damaged goods
ever since they bought into
::: the aberrant legacy of the perverse sociopathy of Abe,
::: the Arab. -- Abraham who was a child abuser & the original
::: self-circumciser due to his VD malady, a deranged member
::: from the criminal out-cast tribe of the Habaru, who some 5768
::: years ago, .... (acc. to the tales in the current Jewish calendar,
::: probably on a Oct. 25, during a Shabbat ... ahaha... ahahaha)
::: spawned the seeds of monotheism that gave rise to Judaism,
::: Xianity and Islam, whose sole & chief raison d'etre seems to
::: be to kill each other off, wholesale, in the name of their own
::: respective irrational, godly-ungodly "spiritual" oye-weh-
::: Yahweh-, trall-Allah- or junk-Jehovah- delusions... ahahaha...
>
one of which demonstrates his "God-given-rights" here:
< http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2O9W3UsdRyM >
or in < http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e1842edc4f >
>
Thanks for the laughs, Basti... ahahaha... ahahahanson
Androcles
"hanson" <han...@quick.net> wrote in message news:I4iXj.14$HJ5.5@trnddc01...
My old mate was out of his mind a year before his death (senile dementia);
he popped his clogs last Tuesday, hypocritical ceremonial combustion of the
body complete with hymns and sky pilot next Friday and the poor bastard
never went inside a church all his life.
Basti seems to have the same problem, maybe he doesn't have long to go.
Dirk Van de moortel
jGiXj.8525$ie5....@newsfe05.ams2
[snip Androfart soundboard]
> My old mate was out of his mind a year before his death (senile dementia);
... a condition you seem to be in since at least 10 years before yours.
In your case I guess it could be called Reptilian Dementia.
Dirk Vdm
hanson
wrote in message news:wNjXj.20183$4N1....@newsfe17.ams2...
>hanson wrote:
<http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/3cccc7fe02bc94d2>
> Androcles <Headm...@Hogwarts.physics> wrote in message
> jGiXj.8525$ie5....@newsfe05.ams2
> [snip Androfart soundboard]
>> My old mate was out of his mind a year before his death (senile
>> dementia);
>
> ... a condition you seem to be in since at least 10 years before yours.
> In your case I guess it could be called Reptilian Dementia.
> Dirk Vdm
>
ahahahaha... VD, you seem to have not only one problem but
two. (1) your fetish over/with and about Androcles, you running
after him like an angry street mutt that lost his master... ahaha..
and (2) your obvious feeling of guilt that you belong to one or
more groups that were shown to suffer from the equivalent of
Reptilian Dementia in the post that you have snipped... ahahaha...
>
... On the brighter side... this one's for Androcles... from a post
that makes the e-mail circuit in the last few days. Here it goes:
> -------------
An Irish Ghost Story --- This incident took place in Dublin awhile
ago and is true according to local townspeople.
>
John Bradford, a Dublin University student, was walking on the
side of the road hitchhiking on a dark and stormy night. The rain
and fog was so severe he could only see a fe w feet ahead of him.
There were no cars in sight and John was beginning to panic.
Suddenly, he saw headlights approaching. The car was traveling
very slowly and came to a stop in front of him.
Desperate for shelter and without thinking about it, John got into
the car and closed the door. Only then did he realize there was
nobody behind the wheel and the engine wasn't running.
>
The car started moving forward slowly. John looked at the road
ahead and knew the car was approaching a sharp curve.
Scared that the car would go over the embankment, John started
to pray for his life. Just before the car hit the curve a hand appeared
through the drivers side window and turned the wheel. John was
paralyzed with fear and terror as he watched the hand repeatedly
come through the window though it never touched or harmed him.
>
Shortly thereafter, John saw the lights of a Pub ahead. Gathering
all his strength, he opened the car door, jumped out, and ran
towards the Pub. Soaking wet and out of breath, he rushed inside
and started telling everyone about the horrible experience just had.
A silence enveloped the Pub when everyone realized he was crying
.......and wasn't drunk.
>
Suddenly, the Pub door opened and two other people walked in
to escape the stormy night. They, like John, were soaking wet and
out of breath. Looking around, and seeing John Bradford sobbing
at the bar, one said to the other, "Look Paddy, there's that fooking
idiot that got in our car while we were pushing it."
> ------------------
>
... and this one here's for Dirk's inner conflict resolution:
George Hammond
<han...@quick.net> wrote:
[Hammond]
<snip>... What a boor!
Tell me something gadfly: Do you think that Einstein
letter written a year before he died is a forged hoax, or
not? Just take a $330,000 guess for me.
=====================================
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GOD=G_uv (a folk song on mp3)
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Androcles
Androcles
| "Dirk Van de moortel" <dirkvand...@ThankS-NO-SperM.hotmail.com>
| wrote in message news:wNjXj.20183$4N1....@newsfe17.ams2...
| >hanson wrote:
| <http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/3cccc7fe02bc94d2>
| > Androcles <Headm...@Hogwarts.physics> wrote in message
| > jGiXj.8525$ie5....@newsfe05.ams2
| > [snip Androfart soundboard]
| >> My old mate was out of his mind a year before his death (senile
| >> dementia);
| >
| VD-moortel wrote
| > ... a condition you seem to be in since at least 10 years before yours.
| > In your case I guess it could be called Reptilian Dementia.
| > Dirk Vdm
| >
| hanson wrote:
| ahahahaha... VD, you seem to have not only one problem but
| two. (1) your fetish over/with and about Androcles, you running
| after him like an angry street mutt that lost his master... ahaha..
Sue refers to it as the pee-puppy ... a reference to it's propensity
to first snuggle up then piss on your leg. No matter how hard I kick
it in the goolies, it still yelps and comes back for more. Best to just
ignore it.
| and (2) your obvious feeling of guilt that you belong to one or
| more groups that were shown to suffer from the equivalent of
| Reptilian Dementia in the post that you have snipped... ahahaha...
| >
| ... On the brighter side... this one's for Androcles... from a post
| that makes the e-mail circuit in the last few days. Here it goes:
| > -------------
| An Irish Ghost Story --- This incident took place in Dublin awhile
| ago and is true according to local townspeople.
| >
| John Bradford, a Dublin University student, was walking on the
| side of the road hitchhiking on a dark and stormy night.
T'was a dark and stormy night when the Cap'n said "Gather round, me
hearties,
and I'll tell 'e a story"... and this is the story he told:
"T'was a dark and stormy night when the first mate said "Gather round, me
hearties,
and I'll tell 'e a story"... and this is the story he told:
""T'was a dark and stormy night when the bos'n said "Gather round, me
hearties,
and I'll tell 'e a story"... and this is the story he told:
...
...
""""T'was a dark and stormy night when the cabin boy said "Gather round, me
hearties,
and I'll tell 'e a story"... but there were nobody left to tell.
A young fella was driving up over the fells (in broad daylight, this
was no dark and stormy night)
http://www.virtual-lakes.co.uk/ButFellsSouth.jpg
when his car began to cough and splutter and finally came to a halt
beside a stone wall.
http://www.hikingswitzerland.com/Typical_Stone_Wall.jpg
He gets out and lifts the bonnet (a British hood, not to be confused
with a black neighbourhood)
http://www.jbaoc.org.uk/images%20J/roadster1.jpg
and stands there scratching his head when he hears a strange voice
say "Clean the points".
He looks around and there is nobody there. The only living creature
nearby is a brown horse looking over the wall at him.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/bradford/weather/images/spring_wilsden270.jpg
He goes back to scratching his head and again the voice says "Clean the
points". He cleans them and the car starts up and run perfectly, but he
still
can't see where the voice is coming from.
Somewhat unnerved he drives down off the fell and comes to a small
inn, rushes inside, orders a stiff whisky and tell the barman his story.
http://www.stockportpubs.org.uk/pics/oldstar.jpg
The barman asks "Was there brown horse up there when this happened?"
"Yes", the fellow replied, "what made you ask that?"
The barman replied "You were very lucky there, sir, the black one doesn't
know a thing about cars".
hanson
Mental patient Gergi/Gorgi/Georgi aka "George Hammond",
the Hammorrhoid, " <Nowh...@notspam.org> who sounds like
VD-moortel and who had put me into his killfile, years ago, was so
lonely last night that he needed my company... ahahaha... and so
he wrote in message
news:cgns241hf8k3dh0oc...@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 17 May 2008 03:26:24 GMT, "hanson"
> <han...@quick.net> wrote:
>
> [Hammond]
> <snip>... What a boor!
> Tell me something gadfly: Do you think that Einstein
> letter written a year before he died is a forged hoax, or
> not? Just take a $330,000 guess for me.
>
The guess is easy... My post did bore deeply into you
because you recognized that you were a due paying
member of at least two of these aberrant and odious
cults mentionned below... ahahaha... & BTW, don't argue
with me, but with the authors of CBC... and then try sell
your own posts for $330,000 like they did... $330K which
you never saw in your own COSA NOSTRA CHURCH
wherein you, Gergi/Gorgi/Georgi, like to be one of the
few who fucks the many with the tool called "religion"...
just like it says below:
Androcles
perhaps he knows why Einstein said
the speed of light from A to B is c-v,
the speed of light from B to A is c+v,
the "time" each way is the same
and thus became a genius.
--
This message is brought to you by Androcles
http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/
hanson
"Androcles" <Headm...@Hogwarts.physics> wrote in message
> Now look here, hanson, George is a bona fide mental patient,
> perhaps he knows why Einstein said
> (2) the speed of light from B to A is c+v,
> (3) the "time" each way is the same
> and thus became a genius.
> --
> This message is brought to you by Androcles
> http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/
>
Yo! hey, patient Gergi/Gorgi/Georgi Hammond, listen up,
you Hammorrhoid: Now, here is your golden 15 second-
window, Gergi/Gorgi/Georgi, to solve Einstein's riddle as
stated by Androcles in lines 1-2-3. -- Have at it and when
you haven given the correct answer, maybe your till now
Goofy G_uv = GOD theorylla will turn out to be a seminal
event, that will especially impress NO-Sperm VD moortel.
hahahahaha... ahahahanson
Androcles
by his outstanding ability to draw (in text)
http://users.pandora.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/TwinsEvents.html
a spacetime diagram that CLEARLY shows
1) the velocity of a spacecraft from Earth to Alpha Centauri is v,
1) the velocity of a spacecraft from Alpha Centauri to Earth is -v,
1) the time is the same but different to the time on Earth,
1) the square root of 1 is not -1 unless (-1)^2 = 1, which is not -1^2.
1) "So if T = 5 years and v = 0.8c, then the stay at home twin will
have aged 10 years"
1) Possibly Dork got his inspiration from the relativity FAQ,
http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Baez/TwinParadox.htm
Dirk Van de moortel
[snip usual Androfart soundboard]
> BTW, NO-Sperm VD merde is also the local village genius as shown
> by his outstanding ability to draw (in text)
> http://users.pandora.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/TwinsEvents.html
Thats' what people do in text based Usenet groups.
We draw with text. Androfart includes binaries.
> a spacetime diagram that CLEARLY shows
> 1) the velocity of a spacecraft from Earth to Alpha Centauri is v,
> 1) the velocity of a spacecraft from Alpha Centauri to Earth is -v,
> 1) the time is the same but different to the time on Earth,
Typically Androfart.
> 1) the square root of 1 is not -1 unless (-1)^2 = 1, which is not -1^2.
The square root of 1 is 1
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Square_root
It must be a burden to be the kind of imbecile who makes a
stupid mistake, and for the remainder of his miserable life is
compelled to redefine the universe in order to admit having
made the stupid mistake.
Androcles and the battle with the square roots:
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/GoodTeachers.html
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/TwoTurds.html
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/STILL.html
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/CanSpecify.html
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/Nearly.html
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/Quadratic.html
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/GrowUp.html
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/Tautology.html
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/Material.html
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/GIVEN.html
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/PythagoRescue.html
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/SqrtRev.html
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/NegSqrt.html
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/Humour.html
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/SqrtAnswers.html
You must have been a GREAT dad for your kids. Poor sods.
> 1) "So if T = 5 years and v = 0.8c, then the stay at home twin will
> have aged 10 years"
If T = 5 then 2T = 10.
It must be a burden to be the kind of imbecile who makes a
silly mistake, and for the remainder of his miserable life is
compelled to redefine the universe in order to admit having
made the silly mistake.
Androcles and the battle with the calculation of 2*5:
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/HumanBeing.html
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/MaliciousImbecile.html
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/StupidQuestion.html
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/TheProblem.html
You must have been a GREAT granddad for your kid's kids. Poor sods.
> 1) Possibly Dork got his inspiration from the relativity FAQ,
> http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Baez/TwinParadox.htm
I never open your web-shite, so no, this is not where the
inspiration came from. When I get my inspiration from
somewhere, I indicate it - unlike you.
>
> --
> This message is brought to you by Androcles
> http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/
Androcles, in a frenzy, counts from 1 to 6: "1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1".
Dirk Vdm
hanson
>
>
... ahahahaha... AHAHAHAHA.... ahahahaha.. ahaha...
Mental patient Gergi/Gorgi/Georgi aka "George Hammond",
the Hammorrhoid, " <Nowh...@notspam.org> who sounds like
VD-moortel and who had put me into his killfile, years ago, was so
lonely last night that he needed my company... ahahaha... and so
he wrote in message
news:cgns241hf8k3dh0oc...@4ax.com...
> <snip>... What a boor!
> Tell me something gadfly: Do you think that Einstein
> letter written a year before he died is a forged hoax, or
> not? Just take a $330,000 guess for me.
>
The guess is easy... My post did bore deeply into you
because you recognized that you were a due paying
member of at least two of these aberrant and odious
cults mentionned below... ahahaha... & BTW, don't argue
with me, but with the authors of CBC... and then try sell
your own posts for $330,000 like they did... $330K which
you never saw in your own COSA NOSTRA CHURCH
wherein you, Gergi/Gorgi/Georgi, like to be one of the
few who fucks the many with the tool called "religion"...
just like it says below:
>
Now look here, hanson, George is a bona fide mental patient,
perhaps he knows why Einstein said
(1) the speed of light from A to B is c-v,
(2) the speed of light from B to A is c+v,
(3) the "time" each way is the same
and thus became a genius.
>
Yo! hey, patient Gergi/Gorgi/Georgi Hammond, listen up,
you Hammorrhoid: Now, here is your golden 15 second-
window, Gergi/Gorgi/Georgi, to solve Einstein's riddle as
stated by Androcles in lines 1-2-3. -- Have at it and when
you haven given the correct answer, maybe your till now
Goofy G_uv = GOD theorylla will turn out to be a seminal
event, that will especially impress NO-Sperm VD moortel.
hahahahaha... ahahahanson
>
ahahaha... it did not only impress but deeply WORRY VDm.
Have you noticed that VD-moortel's Spermless but instant
response ejaculates do sound ever more increasingly and
exceedingly desperate as if VD-moortel needed to cover up
and hide, in the worst possible way, that he
>
*** Dirk VD-moortel IS really "George Hammond" ***,
>
So, Andro, hold your water and your pistol and wait until
Gergi/Gorgi/Georgi comes out of his church & responds.
Don't blow the fun now. Fun will be better with Georgi's tripe.
Androcles
a shark would go for it. BTW, Dork can't be George Hammond,
George Hammond is really Dork. Everyone has to be someone
else as far as the local village idiot as concerned. Such paranoia is
a common trait for the psychotic psychopath.
BTW, NO-Sperm VD merde is also the local village genius as shown
by his outstanding ability to draw (in text)
http://users.pandora.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/TwinsEvents.html
a spacetime diagram that CLEARLY shows
1) the velocity of a spacecraft from Earth to Alpha Centauri is v,
1) the velocity of a spacecraft from Alpha Centauri to Earth is -v,
1) the time is the same but different to the time on Earth,
1) the square root of 1 is not -1 unless (-1)^2 = 1, which is not -1^2.
1) "So if T = 5 years and v = 0.8c, then the stay at home twin will
have aged 10 years"
1) Possibly Dork got his inspiration from the relativity FAQ,
http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Baez/TwinParadox.htm
--
Tom Potter
The bidder makes a deal with the seller
to kick back some of the money,
or to respond in kind.
The winning bidder,
gets an enormous amount of free publicity
for himself and his business,
and a new value is set on the item
so that some sucker can be taken in
on a future sell.
To contrast Einstein's letter
which sold for $330,000.00
to Hitler's watercolors which go for $8000.00 each
take a look at the following web site.
Take a look at the letter and these watercolors
and see which has a greater intrinsic value.
--
Tom Potter
http://www.geocities.com/tdp1001/index.html
http://notsocrazyideas.blogspot.com
http://tdp1001.wiki.zoho.com
http://groups.msn.com/PotterPhotos
** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **
George Hammond
<tdp...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Extremely high auction bids are often scams.
>
>The bidder makes a deal with the seller
>to kick back some of the money,
>or to respond in kind.
>
>The winning bidder,
>gets an enormous amount of free publicity
>for himself and his business,
>
>and a new value is set on the item
>so that some sucker can be taken in
>on a future sell.
>
>To contrast Einstein's letter
>which sold for $330,000.00
>to Hitler's watercolors which go for $8000.00 each
>take a look at the following web site.
>
>http://tinyurl.com/6ly372
>
>Take a look at the letter and these watercolors
>and see which has a greater intrinsic value.
>
>
[Hammond]
Hitler never could have been a true artist because he
possessed absolutely no power of abstraction whatsoever. His
draughtsman's like mechanical watercolors poignantly
demonstrate this. This of course is a hallmark
characteristic of the psychotic personality.
Einstein's 1954 letter by the way went for $404,000. It
is of considerable historic value mainly because Einstein
was the world's second most famous scientist, and the
world's second most famous Jew; the latter of course
accounting for his lifelong sympathy towards religion in the
largest sense.
Interestingly, the letter is about to become even more
valuable with the discovery that Einstein's theory of
General Relativity is in fact the scientific foundation of
the world's first scientific proof of God which I have
discovered and published (Hammond, 2003). In view of that
event, his letter is certainly destined to become one of the
most ironically famous documents in the annals of scientific
history.
Turning to another subject, I understand that you have
lived in China for the past 15 years. I am wondering if you
could tell me in a nutshell, what exactly the average person
in China believes about God? I mean, do they believe in
God? Certainly they are not a nation of atheists; are they?
How do you think they would react if the world scientific
community suddenly announced that a scientific proof of God
had been discovered? They certainly are great supporters of
modern Science are they not?
Tom Potter
It is interesting to see that "George Hammond" asserts
that draftsmen, technicians, engineers, programmers and tradesmen
have "psychotic personalities" because they
deal with "concrete existence" rather than the "abstract",
and I assume that George is suggesting that he and Einstein
are well adjusted because they deal with esoteric babble
that wastes time, money and minds,
on such pursuits as the birth and death of the universe,
worm holes, time travel, rubber clocks and rulers, etc.
abstract (ab-strakt', ab'strakt')
"Considered apart from concrete existence: an abstract concept.
Not applied or practical; theoretical.
Thought of or stated without reference to a specific instance: abstract
words like truth and justice.
Impersonal, as in attitude or views."
Rather than accept "George Hammond's" the boilerplate rejection
of Hitler's watercolors,
(Which I suspect is motivated by the fact,
that "George Hammond', like most people,
has been conned by Jewish INSTITUTIONALIZED REVISIONISM
into thinking that Jews are creative, intelligent, "virtuous victims"
and Germans, Muslims, Russians, Christians, and in fact all of
the neighbors of Jews through history,
are evil people who have low intelligence, and no creativity.)
I suggest that folks should visit the following
URL and decided for themselves.
Someone who painted beautiful scenes,
invented the Volkswagen and expressways,
and designed great buildings like Hitler,
and recognized that the Jews who had
massacred the Russian Royal Family,
and co-opted the Russian government,
were using Russia as a base from where to
instigate the Class Wars of the 1900's,
couldn't be all bad.
Regarding "George Hammond's" question:
"what exactly <does> the average person
in China believe about God?"
Frankly I don't know,
but I have observed that people of all nations,
who are afraid of death,
and people who are dealing with trauma in their lives,
turn to the unknown, ( God, religion, fortune tellers, etc. )
when the known does not relieve their grief and anxiety.
I have observed that most Chinese
seem to consider the various temples
( Buddhist, Lhamma, Tao, Mao,
Goddess of the Sea, etc. )
as pleasant Disney Land like places
to relax, take pictures, and enjoy,
and that some Chinese deal with
stress and trauma by visiting these temples
and burning incense.
They all burn incense, but the ones
with problems take it more seriously.
The fact of the matter is that many (Most?)
of these temples are operated as tourist attractions
by the government or some private concern.,
and the people seem to treat them all the same.
George Hammond
<tdp...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>[Tom Potter]
>It is interesting to see that "George Hammond" asserts
>that draftsmen, technicians, engineers, programmers and tradesmen
>have "psychotic personalities" because they
>deal with "concrete existence" rather than the "abstract",
>
>
[Hammond]
I never said that Tom; you did!
None of those people you mentioned consider their
utilitarian professions to be forms of "abstract psychology
instruction" which is what "Art" per se is.
Anyone who would be so mindless and presumptuous as to
assume that a utilitarian endeavor such as drafting is "Fine
Art" is as ignorant as the imbecile who suggested that "we
replace portrait painting with photography". Only a moron
wholly ignorant of the phenomena of God would propose such a
thing which is in fact what Hitler was... and the Institute
of Fine Art in Vienna bluntly told him as much on several
occasions!
>
>
>[Tom Potter]
>and I assume that George is suggesting that he and Einstein
>are well adjusted because they deal with esoteric babble
>that wastes time, money and minds,
>on such pursuits as the birth and death of the universe,
>worm holes, time travel, rubber clocks and rulers, etc.
>
>
[Hammond]
You gotta be kiddin Tom... I understood that you are a
retired computer industry CEO and now a self made executive
entrepreneur based in China. For such a person to be
unaware that Einstein's theory is prima facie the epitome of
Western scientific thought is no less than appalling.
Beyond that, for anyone claiming advanced intellectual
and social capacity to be so totally unsuspecting that
Einstein's Theory is fundamentally related to the phenomenon
of God is likewise incredible.
>
>
>[Tom Potter]
>abstract (ab-strakt', ab'strakt')
>"Considered apart from concrete existence: an abstract concept.
>Not applied or practical; theoretical.
>Thought of or stated without reference to a specific instance: abstract
>words like truth and justice.
>Impersonal, as in attitude or views."
>
>Rather than accept "George Hammond's" the boilerplate rejection
>of Hitler's watercolors,
>
>(Which I suspect is motivated by the fact,
>that "George Hammond', like most people,
>has been conned by Jewish INSTITUTIONALIZED REVISIONISM
>into thinking that Jews are creative, intelligent, "virtuous victims"
>and Germans, Muslims, Russians, Christians, and in fact all of
>the neighbors of Jews through history,
>are evil people who have low intelligence, and no creativity.)
>
>
[Hammond]
Tom, an idiot knows that the Jews are not called the
"chosen people" for nothing and I would have thought that
you are old enough and socially sophisticated enough to know
why.
EVERY nation has an identifiable national "personality"
or national character. Long ago the Church observed that
there are only 4 major personality types in the human race
and named these types Matthew, Mark, Luke and John.
Meanwhile, as any student of politics will tell you
secular government soon discovered that, broadly speaking
the entire world is dived politically into a
"Bicameral/2-Party system"; there is an upper class
Left-Right and a lower class Left-Right. Of the 250
governments in the world, 95% of them are organized around a
BI/2P legislative system.
In this system, the "upper-right" is the traditional
aristocracy. The upper-left are the traditional
"intelligentsia", the lower-right the traditional "military"
and the lower-left the traditional "working class".
It turns out that the most politically attacked quarter
is the "upper-left", the intelligentsia or so called
"liberals". FDR is perhaps the most modern hero of this
quarter as under his leadership world Fascism was finally
defeated.
The "Jews" so called have always been identified with the
upper-left, the "liberals" or the "John" personality of the
world. So anti-Semitism in it's broadest sense (i.e.
Fascism) is nothing more than ultra-conservative or
"anti-Democratic" political warfare in essence.
The evil reputation of it of course stems from the fact
that even in antiquity the world has was ruled by
aristocratic (upper Right) governments and during the Dark
Ages this system became increasingly savage and corrupt. The
"Democrats" (the Left) and particularly the "Jews" were
oppressed and even persecuted. This reached an orgiastic
crescendo of criminality during WWII which finally brought
about the downfall and eradication of Fascism.
Today it is known that the BI/2P system has nothing to do
with race, religion, nationality or anything else, it in
fact (as the Church long suspected) originates in the
quadrate structure of the human brain.... there are 4
personalities of Man for the same reason we have 4 feet!
It's a law of Biology based on an axiomatic geometrical law
Physics (Which is why there is no such thing as a 3 legged
animal for instance).
At any rate, the history of the "Jews" has been
traditionally the foundation stone of Western religion. But
modern Science has finally caught up with religion, and even
as we speak, the world's first scientific proof of God has
been published (Hammond, 2003) and the Christian Bible, the
Koran, the Torah etc. will soon be augmented (not to say
replaced) by a fully "scientific" explanation and proof of
"God and Religion". With that (which I call the Scientific
Advent), the Jews will finally be free of the burden of
religious leadership which they have carried for 2,000 years
in the Western World. Certainly they will enjoy a rest they
fully deserve, as does the Western World deserve a rest from
the plague of anti-semitism and Fascism!
So Tom, I wouldn't worry myself about "Jewish
revisionism", I think the world is going to be dealing next
with the "Scientific Revision of Religion", and btw, that
revision will FULLY vindicate Judaism, predominantly
vindicate Christianity, and after some fundamental revision,
eventually normalize the Koran and the Islamic religion
also, since "Allah has been proven scientifically to exist".
>
>
>
>
>
>I suggest that folks should visit the following
>URL and decided for themselves.
>
>http://tinyurl.com/6ly372
>
>Someone who painted beautiful scenes,
>invented the Volkswagen and expressways,
>and designed great buildings like Hitler,
>
>and recognized that the Jews who had
>massacred the Russian Royal Family,
>and co-opted the Russian government,
>were using Russia as a base from where to
>instigate the Class Wars of the 1900's,
>couldn't be all bad.
>
>
>
[Hammond]
For christ's sake Tom, what are you nuts? That sounds
like crap copied out of Henry Ford's notorious Dearborn
anti-semitic pulp newspaper which the Supreme Court had to
shut down and for which Henry Ford eventually publicly
apologized.
I'll tell you what makes your statements absurd, and that
is the common fact that all you have to do is talk to half a
dozen Jews and you soon find out that their national
personality is not capable of murder or of promoting
warfare. This is prevailing common opinion in the Western
World and always has been.
So I'll tell you where that kind of clap trap is headed
historically; with the advent of a scientific proof of God,
the first thing that is going to be apparent is that while
the S.P.of God proves 90% of the New Testament, it proves
100% of the Old Testament! Not only is Atheism dead in the
water, scientifically, so is anti-semitism!
>
>
>
>
>Regarding "George Hammond's" question:
>"what exactly <does> the average person
> in China believe about God?"
>
>Frankly I don't know,
>but I have observed that people of all nations,
>who are afraid of death,
>and people who are dealing with trauma in their lives,
>turn to the unknown, ( God, religion, fortune tellers, etc. )
>when the known does not relieve their grief and anxiety.
>
>I have observed that most Chinese
>seem to consider the various temples
>( Buddhist, Lhamma, Tao, Mao,
>Goddess of the Sea, etc. )
>as pleasant Disney Land like places
>to relax, take pictures, and enjoy,
>
[Hammond]
That's encouraging, most God fearing Western tourists
feel the same way about tours to Israel or the Vatican.
>
>
>and that some Chinese deal with
>stress and trauma by visiting these temples
>and burning incense.
>
>They all burn incense, but the ones
>with problems take it more seriously.
>
>The fact of the matter is that many (Most?)
>of these temples are operated as tourist attractions
>by the government or some private concern.,
>and the people seem to treat them all the same.
>
>
[Hammond]
Well from that small slice of Chinese Life I would say
that the Chinese are in fact, like the rest of the world, an
inherently reverent and God fearing people.
My prediction is that they will calmly accept and be
overjoyed, as will all decent people, by the scientific
discovery that there is a God, the same invisible all
powerful God directing and protecting all the peoples of the
Earth, that he is a god of mercy, justice and unity, and
that his spirit acts upon all governments and all
institutions through the public opinion of his people.
I'm sure they will be glad to find out that the discovery
of the world's first scientific proof of God has now united
all religions, including ostensibly atheistic Communism,
into one spiritually unified body of Mankind.
Tom Potter
As can be seen from [Hammond]'s comment:
"For christ's sake Tom, what are you nuts? That sounds
like crap copied out of Henry Ford's notorious Dearborn
anti-semitic pulp newspaper which the Supreme Court had to
shut down and for which Henry Ford eventually publicly
apologized."
[Hammond] like most people has been conditioned
by Jewish INSTITUTIONALIZED BIGOTRY and REVISIONISM
to accept the Jewish versions of history,
their positions on the quality of arts and sciences and cultures,
and their characterazations of people.
Henry Ford, like thousands of other good, moral, productive people
was "Jimmy Cartered" and gang banged by the Jewish
BIGOTRY MACHINE that uses every immoral trick in the book
to silence and discredit folks who make TRUE public statements
that Jewish BIGOTS do not want the public exposed to.
I must point out that contrary to Jewish REVISIONISM about Ford,
he was not "shut down" nor did he apologize, but as he stated in his book,
he presented his case about the Jews who were instigating the
Class Wars of the 1900's to the American people, and "let it rest for the
time.",
in order to get on with business, and get out of the aggressive, persistenmt
"pissing war" that Jews were carrying on.
Here is what Ford had to say about the issue in his autobiography.
"Our work does not pretend to say the last word on the Jew in America. It
says
only the word which describes his obvious present impress on the country.
When
that impress is changed, the report of it can be changed.
For the present, then, the question is wholly in the Jews' hands. If they
are
as wise as they claim to be, they will labour to make Jews American, instead
of
labouring to make America Jewish.
The genius of the United States of America is Christian in the broadest
sense,
and its destiny is to remain Christian. This carries ***no sectarian meaning
with it ***,
but relates to a basic principle which differs from other principles in
that it provides for liberty with morality, and pledges society to a code of
relations based on
** fundamental Christian conceptions of human rights and duties.**
As for prejudice or hatred against
persons, that is neither American nor Christian. Our opposition is only to
ideas, false ideas, which are sapping the moral stamina of the people. These
ideas proceed from easily identified sources, they are promulgated by easily
discoverable methods; and they are controlled by mere exposure. We have
simply
used the method of exposure."
And here is what a famous German had to say about the
Jews who were instigating the Class Wars of the 1900's.
http://anonymouse.org/cgi-bin/anon-www.cgi/http://www.calvin.edu/academic/cas/gpa/hitler4.htm
"The Führer to the German People: 22 June 1941
You probably all felt that this was a bitter and difficult step for me.
The German people have never had hostile feelings toward the peoples of
Russia.
During the last two decades, however, the Jewish-Bolshevist rulers in Moscow
have attempted to set not only Germany, but
all of Europe, aflame. Germany has never attempted to spread its National
Socialist worldview to Russia. Rather, the Jewish-Bolshevist rulers in
Moscow have constantly attempted to subject us and the other European
peoples to
their rule. They have attempted this not only intellectually, but above all
through military means. The results of their efforts, in every nation, were
only
chaos, misery, and starvation."
As can be seen by simply reading the true, first hand accounts of history,
Jews have come into conflict with all of their neighbors throughout history,
and EVERY nation where they gained control of the government
rapidly decayed. England, Germany, Russia, now America,
and soon to be France.
Jews are the ultimate weapon to destroy
the wealth, spirit, culture, and power of a nation.
The people who fear Iran, North Korea, India, or China
should encourage Jews to migrate there.
George Hammond
<tdp...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
<SNIP>
>
[Hammond]
Excuse me, I was unaware when I responded to you that you
are a notious Usenet anti-Semitic crackpot.
I only replied because you mentioned living in China and
I thought you might know something about Chinese religious
beleifs.
It appears however the reason you're living in China is
because a bigoted crackpot like you is not welcome in the
U.S. and is probably ignored in China where anti-Semitism is
virtually unknown.
killfile: "Tom Potter" <tdp...@yahoo.com>
Tom Potter
"George Hammond" makes a good point when he points out
that Jews have come into conflict with all of their neighbors
through history, and that historically, as well as today,
most folks have been anti-Semitic.
The rational, intelligent way to approach anti-Semitism
is to examine it, and try to determine how to fix the problem,
that has been responsible for so many deaths
( i.e. The Class Wars of the 1900's, the Religious Wars of the 2000's,
the Spanish-American War, America Urban Rebellion of the 1970's, etc.)
and so much despair in the world.
It appears to me from "George Hammond's" comment:
"you are a notious Usenet anti-Semitic crackpot.
that George has been well conditioned by Jewish Institutionalized Bigotry.
to believe the Jewish Revised version of history,
and to parrot the methods and words of Jewish bigots.
Regarding "George Hammond's second, knee-jerk, bigoted comment:
"It appears however the reason you're living in China is
because a bigoted crackpot like you is not welcome in the
U.S. and is probably ignored in China where anti-Semitism is
virtually unknown.",
I must point out that I am loved, and even admired, in America,
as well as in China for my honesty, good works, and
concern for folks of ALL races, religions, and nationalities.
I suggest that if George would research and be HONEST
rather than parrot bigotry, he would discover
that I taught in an all Black, inner city high school,
owned businesses managed by a Jew, a Muslim,
a Christian, and an atheist Russian non-Jew immigrant,
am married an Asian, and have defended the rights
of Muslims, Blacks, Latinos, Rednecks, Germans, and yes, Jews.
The definition of "bigot" is:
"A prejudiced person who is intolerant of any opinions differing from his
own."
The following web site tells the stories
of a few of the many folks who have been
victims of institutionalized bigotry.
Take a look at this web site and you'll see why
people like "George Hammond" are so easily
conditioned by Institutionalized Bigotry
to "Jimmy Carter" honest, concerned folks
who have the best interests of the WHOLE world at heart,
and by Institutionalized Revisionism
to believe RECONSTRUCTIONS of events and history.
Does the word "Pavlov" ring a bell?
<http://www.zundelsite.org/english/debate/victims/index.html>