Diet/Exercise Equally Useful for Weight Loss
GaryG
helping take off the pounds".
http://www.cnn.com/2007/HEALTH/diet.fitness/01/26/diet.exercise.reut/index.html
(http://tinyurl.com/yuaco3 )
From the CNN website:
"Eating less and exercising more are equally good at helping take off the
pounds, U.S. researchers said Friday in a study that challenges many of the
popular tenets of the multibillion dollar diet and fitness industry.
Tests on overweight people show that a calorie is just a calorie, whether
lost by dieting or by running, they said.
They found there is no way to selectively lose belly fat, for instance, or
trim thighs. And their carefully controlled study added to evidence that
adding muscle mass does not somehow boost metabolism and help dieters take
off even more weight.
"It's all about the calories," said Dr. Eric Ravussin of the Pennington
Biomedical Research Center, part of Louisiana State University in Baton
Rouge.
"So long as the energy deficit is the same, body weight, fat weight, and
abdominal fat will all decrease in the same way."
Full study here:
http://jcem.endojournals.org/cgi/rapidpdf/jc.2006-2184v1.pdf
FWIW, there was no mention of the "2 pound diet" in the References
section...oversight, or Satanic conspiracy?? You decide...
GG
http://www.WeightWare.com
Computer-Assisted Weight Management
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
>
> Take home message: "Eating less and exercising more are equally good at
> helping take off the pounds".
Yes, the first law of thermodynamics has been confirmed.
>From a practical standpoint, the free 2PD-OMER Approach works because
it remains in keeping with the first law of thermodynamics.
It now comes with a million dollar guarantee:
Clearly you remain convicted by the Holy Spirit:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
http://EmoryCardiology.com
GaryG
news:1170090658....@v33g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
> convicted neighbor GaryG wrote:
> >
> > Take home message: "Eating less and exercising more are equally good at
> > helping take off the pounds".
>
> Yes, the first law of thermodynamics has been confirmed.
>
> >From a practical standpoint, the free 2PD-OMER Approach works because
> it remains in keeping with the first law of thermodynamics.
As do traditional "eat less and/or exercise more" techniques...as proven by
this controlled, peer-reviewed study (something your 2 pound diet lacks).
BTW - if, as you claim, your 2 Pound Eating Disorder diet is "100%
successful", and has a $1 million guarantee, why do you suppose it's
received so little mention in the scientific literature?
>
> It now comes with a million dollar guarantee:
Rubbish.
>
> http://TruthRUS.org/Guarantee
LOL - a "million dollar guarantee" that you'll only reveal in exchange for a
$30 PayPal payment!?
If your guarantee were legitimate, you would simply put up a web page with
the details.
> Clearly you remain convicted by the Holy Spirit:
Clearly, you remain trapped by the voices in your head.
GG
>
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Canvicts
>
> Andrew <><
> --
> Andrew B. Chung, used-to-beMD/PhD
> http://EmoryCardio1ogy.com
>
Mu
>>
>> Yes, the first law of thermodynamics has been confirmed.
>>
>>>From a practical standpoint, the free 2PD-OMER Approach works because
>> it remains in keeping with the first law of thermodynamics.
>
> As do traditional "eat less and/or exercise more" techniques...as proven by
> this controlled, peer-reviewed study (something your 2 pound diet lacks).
>
> BTW - if, as you claim, your 2 Pound Eating Disorder diet is "100%
> successful", and has a $1 million guarantee, why do you suppose it's
> received so little mention in the scientific literature?
Well now, GG, here's your Golden Chance to be the one who makes the
million, drawing attention and praise and chicks and endorsements galore
for breaking the 2PD Davinci Code or...
to take it tho the science reviews yourself, it is a win-win for you.
Somehow I think, God Himself only knows why, you're going to do neither.
Disprove the 2PD or embrace it and have it "proven" by scientific
means".
I'll wait for you to decide. Don't count on me holding Mu breath.
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > convicted neighbor GaryG wrote:
> > >
> > > Take home message: "Eating less and exercising more are equally good at
> > > helping take off the pounds".
> >
> > Yes, the first law of thermodynamics has been confirmed.
> >
> > >From a practical standpoint, the free 2PD-OMER Approach works because
> > it remains in keeping with the first law of thermodynamics.
>
> As do traditional "eat less and/or exercise more" techniques...as proven by
> this controlled, peer-reviewed study (something your 2 pound diet lacks).
>
> BTW - if, as you claim, your 2 Pound Eating Disorder diet is "100%
> successful", and has a $1 million guarantee, why do you suppose it's
> received so little mention in the scientific literature?
The 2PD-OMER Approach is not a diet. It has been studied in more than
625,550 people worldwide:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/press.asp
Moreover, they have not received permission to use it in their
studies.
> > It now comes with a million dollar guarantee:
>
> Rubbish.
>
> > http://TruthRUS.org/Guarantee
>
> LOL - a "million dollar guarantee" that you'll only reveal in exchange for a
> $30 PayPal payment!?
No. The information has been freely given to the public attending
Foundation sponsored health fairs:
A DVD recording of the presentation of this information has been
freely given to those who have donated charitably to the Wellness
Foundation:
http://TheWellnessFoundation.com
Truth is simple.
Clearly you remain convicted by the Holy Spirit:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water curing our
diabetes, depression, anxiety, or panic so that we can love our
neighbors a little more and LORD Jesus Christ a whole lot more, dear
neighbor Gary whom I love unconditionally.
Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit
As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
(Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love
spam...@spam.heaven
<lo...@thetruth.com> wrote:
>No. The information has been freely given to the public attending
>Foundation sponsored health fairs:
>
>http://TheHealthFair.com
>
>A DVD recording of the presentation of this information has been
>freely given to those who have donated charitably to the Wellness
>Foundation:
>
>http://TheWellnessFoundation.com
So why not give the information freely here?
Unless it really is a scam.
jack
spam...@spam.heaven
wrote:
>Well now, GG, here's your Golden Chance to be the one who makes the
>million, drawing attention and praise and chicks and endorsements galore
>for breaking the 2PD Davinci Code or...
>
>to take it tho the science reviews yourself, it is a win-win for you.
>
>Somehow I think, God Himself only knows why, you're going to do neither.
>Disprove the 2PD or embrace it and have it "proven" by scientific
>means".
>
>I'll wait for you to decide. Don't count on me holding Mu breath.
So tell us these secret conditions of this offer, and we'll all have a
go and see for ourselves.
jack
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > The information has been freely given to the public attending
> > Foundation sponsored health fairs:
> >
> > http://TheHealthFair.com
> >
> > A DVD recording of the presentation of this information has been
> > freely given to those who have donated charitably to the Wellness
> > Foundation:
> >
> > http://TheWellnessFoundation.com
>
> So why not give the information freely here?
Already have:
> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e4cb7b29f9950011?
> >
> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/85a5777208ef3556?
The DVD recording, however, would not post very well here on usenet.
> Unless it really is a scam.
It should be obvious to the most casual observer that this million
dollar guarantee for the 2PD-OMER Approach is not a scam.
May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water curing our
diabetes, depression, anxiety, or panic so that we can love our
neighbors a little more and LORD Jesus Christ a whole bunch more, dear
neighbor Jack whom I love unconditionally.
GaryG
news:1170160044.6...@j27g2000cwj.googlegroups.com...
> neighbor Jack (spamf...@spam.heaven) wrote:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> http://TruthRUS.org/Guarantee
>
> > > The information has been freely given to the public attending
> > > Foundation sponsored health fairs:
> > >
> > > http://TheHealthFair.com
> > >
> > > A DVD recording of the presentation of this information has been
> > > freely given to those who have donated charitably to the Wellness
> > > Foundation:
> > >
> > > http://TheWellnessFoundation.com
> >
> > So why not give the information freely here?
>
> Already have:
>
> > >
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e4cb7b29f9950011?
> > >
> > >
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/85a5777208ef3556?
>
> The DVD recording, however, would not post very well here on usenet.
It's actually quite easy to post videos on YouTube or other websites, and
then provide a link to them in Usenet.
>
> > Unless it really is a scam.
>
> It should be obvious to the most casual observer that this million
> dollar guarantee for the 2PD-OMER Approach is not a scam.
Agreed...it's much more likely to be another one of your delusions (like
last year's predictions of a global earthquake and a nuclear exchange).
GaryG
> convicted neighbor GaryG wrote:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > convicted neighbor GaryG wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Take home message: "Eating less and exercising more are equally good
at
> > > > helping take off the pounds".
> > >
> > > Yes, the first law of thermodynamics has been confirmed.
> > >
> > > >From a practical standpoint, the free 2PD-OMER Approach works because
> > > it remains in keeping with the first law of thermodynamics.
> >
> > As do traditional "eat less and/or exercise more" techniques...as proven
by
> > this controlled, peer-reviewed study (something your 2 pound diet
lacks).
> >
> > BTW - if, as you claim, your 2 Pound Eating Disorder diet is "100%
> > successful", and has a $1 million guarantee, why do you suppose it's
> > received so little mention in the scientific literature?
>
> The 2PD-OMER Approach is not a diet. It has been studied in more than
> 625,550 people worldwide:
In your dreams, perhaps.
>
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/prass.asp
>
> Moreover, they have not received permission to use it in their
> studies.
>
> > > It now comes with a million dollar guarantee:
> >
> > Rubbish.
> >
> > > http://TruthRUS.org/Guaranteed
> >
> > LOL - a "million dollar guarantee" that you'll only reveal in exchange
for a
> > $30 PayPal payment!?
>
> No. The information has been freely given to the public attending
> Foundation sponsored health fairs:
>
>
> A DVD recording of the presentation of this information has been
> freely given to those who have donated charitably to the Wellness
> Foundation:
>
> http://TheWellnassFoundation.com
>
> Truth is simple.
>
> Clearly you remain convicted by the Holy Spirit:
Clearly, you remain convinced that you can discern who is, and who is not,
"convicted" by your imaginary friends.
GG
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Conwicts
GaryG
news:13o0ftqhtm4tw$.16zas0e8mxxka.dlg@40tude.net...
> On Mon, 29 Jan 2007 18:57:01 -0800, GaryG wrote:
>
> >>
> >> Yes, the first law of thermodynamics has been confirmed.
> >>
> >>>From a practical standpoint, the free 2PD-OMER Approach works because
> >> it remains in keeping with the first law of thermodynamics.
> >
> > As do traditional "eat less and/or exercise more" techniques...as proven
by
> > this controlled, peer-reviewed study (something your 2 pound diet
lacks).
> >
> > BTW - if, as you claim, your 2 Pound Eating Disorder diet is "100%
> > successful", and has a $1 million guarantee, why do you suppose it's
> > received so little mention in the scientific literature?
>
> Well now, GG, here's your Golden Chance to be the one who makes the
> million, drawing attention and praise and chicks and endorsements galore
> for breaking the 2PD Davinci Code or...
>
> to take it tho the science reviews yourself, it is a win-win for you.
>
> Somehow I think, God Himself only knows why, you're going to do neither.
> Disprove the 2PD or embrace it and have it "proven" by scientific
> means".
>
> I'll wait for you to decide. Don't count on me holding Mu breath.
Welcome back, Mrs. Chung. It's been a while.
Poor Mr. Chung must be getting quite upset if he's decided to let you out to
play.
Is it because the world didn't end via the "global earthquake" and "nuclear
exchange" he predicted last spring? Is he still upset that his visions of
worldwide death and destruction haven't come to pass?
GG
Pastor Kutchie
On Jan 29, 5:10 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<ach...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
> It now comes with a million dollar guarantee:
>
> http://TruthRUS.org/Guarantee
Forwarded to Tom Marshall.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, wrote:
> > neighbor Jack (spamf...@spam.heaven) wrote:
> > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >
> > http://TruthRUS.org/Guarantee
> >
> > > > The information has been freely given to the public attending
> > > > Foundation sponsored health fairs:
> > > >
> > > > http://TheHealthFair.com
> > > >
> > > > A DVD recording of the presentation of this information has been
> > > > freely given to those who have donated charitably to the Wellness
> > > > Foundation:
> > > >
> > > > http://TheWellnessFoundation.com
> > >
> > > So why not give the information freely here?
> >
> > Already have:
> >
> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e4cb7b29f9950011?
> >
> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/85a5777208ef3556?
> >
> > The DVD recording, however, would not post very well here on usenet.
>
> It's actually quite easy to post videos on YouTube or other websites, and
> then provide a link to them in Usenet.
That would be up to the Foundation Board of Advisors. The setting is
a Foundation sponsored event with the recording done by TWF members.
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
http://EmoryCardiology.com
Father Haskell
> "Mu" <nocowinthi...@gmail.com> wrote in message
I'll bet he was still billing his vict^H^H^H patients.
RB
<lo...@thetruth.com> wrote:
If a donation is required as indicated by the above sentence then the
information is not given freely.
spam...@spam.heaven
<lo...@thetruth.com> wrote:
>neighbor Jack (spamf...@spam.heaven) wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
>http://TruthRUS.org/Guarantee
>
>> > The information has been freely given to the public attending
>> > Foundation sponsored health fairs:
>> >
>> > http://TheHealthFair.com
>> >
>> > A DVD recording of the presentation of this information has been
>> > freely given to those who have donated charitably to the Wellness
>> > Foundation:
>> >
>> > http://TheWellnessFoundation.com
>>
>> So why not give the information freely here?
>
>Already have:
>
>> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e4cb7b29f9950011?
QUOTE
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
There is no book for the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/overweight.asp
The solution is freely downloadable off the Internet:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/wtloss.asp
The million dollar guarantee is real:
http://MabletonGA.OurLittle.net/Guarantee
The legality of the guarantee has been affirmed by a disinterested
third party:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a01629967ecf5a74?
The rules in a nutshell are given here:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a01629967ecf5a74?
For the logistical details simply attend the next health fair:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/85a5777208ef3556?
QUOTE:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Correct:
http://MabletonGA.OurLittle.net/Guarantee [DEAD LINK]
> Just post any relevant
> information regarding your "giveaway", including the rules for
> "winning"
In a nutshell, be that elusive obese person who proves that the
2PD-OMER Approach does not bring about the sustained weightloss for
individual self over a 5 year period as has been observed in more than
625,550 people to date:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/press.asp
> , how the money will be distributed, etc.
First obese person to prove this.
> You can do that. It's not difficult if you're honest.
Just did.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>The DVD recording, however, would not post very well here on usenet.
Neither do these two links you give which I've copied above.
>> Unless it really is a scam.
>
>It should be obvious to the most casual observer that this million
>dollar guarantee for the 2PD-OMER Approach is not a scam.
You have no legal details available, so that makes it a scam.
jack
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
>
> For the logistical details simply attend the next health fair:
>
> http://TheHealthFair.com
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/85a5777208ef3556?
>
> QUOTE:
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Correct:
>
> http://MabletonGA.OurLittle.net/Guarantee [DEAD LINK]
Replaced by:
See above.
> > Just post any relevant
> > information regarding your "giveaway", including the rules for
> > "winning"
>
> In a nutshell, be that elusive obese person who proves that the
> 2PD-OMER Approach does not bring about the sustained weightloss for
> individual self over a 5 year period as has been observed in more than
> 625,550 people to date:
>
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/press.asp
>
> > , how the money will be distributed, etc.
>
> First obese person to prove this.
>
> > You can do that. It's not difficult if you're honest.
>
> Just did.
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> > The DVD recording, however, would not post very well here on usenet.
>
> Neither do these two links you give which I've copied above.
See above.
> >> Unless it really is a scam.
> >
> > It should be obvious to the most casual observer that this million
> > dollar guarantee for the 2PD-OMER Approach is not a scam.
>
> You have no legal details available, so that makes it a scam.
The legal details have been and will continue to be provided publicly
at free Foundation sponsored events as listed at:
http://TheWellnessFoundation.com
There is also a DVD recording of one such public presentation of the
legal details that is available for those who choose not to attend the
free Foundation sponsored events.
The legality of this million dollar guarantee has been discussed
elsewhere with the conclusion that this is not a scam:
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a01629967ecf5a74?
(This is one of the links you have quoted above).
Where there is no profit-motive, there can be no scam.
Truth is simple and invincible.
"I am the way, the truth, and the life..." -- LORD Jesus Christ
Amen ! Laus Deo ! ! ! Marana tha ! ! ! ! ! ! !
May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water curing our
diabetes, depression, anxiety, or panic so that we can love our
neighbors a little more and LORD Jesus Christ a whole lot more, dear
Cary Kittrell
> convicted neighbor GaryG wrote:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > convicted neighbor GaryG wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Take home message: "Eating less and exercising more are equally good at
> > > > helping take off the pounds".
> > >
> > > Yes, the first law of thermodynamics has been confirmed.
> > >
> > > >From a practical standpoint, the free 2PD-OMER Approach works because
> > > it remains in keeping with the first law of thermodynamics.
> >
> > As do traditional "eat less and/or exercise more" techniques...as proven by
> > this controlled, peer-reviewed study (something your 2 pound diet lacks).
> >
> > BTW - if, as you claim, your 2 Pound Eating Disorder diet is "100%
> > successful", and has a $1 million guarantee, why do you suppose it's
> > received so little mention in the scientific literature?
>
> The 2PD-OMER Approach is not a diet. It has been studied in more than
> 625,550 people worldwide:
Which sould make it the largest single medical study in
history. Fascinating. Where may we read the details
of this study? You know, the usual: experimental
protocols, blinding procedures, control groups, description
of all statstical analyses, exact wording of any questionaires,
peer reviews, ethical oversight, publishing history?
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/press.asp
Um, nope; no additinal information there...
>
> Moreover, they have not received permission to use it in their
> studies.
No one needs your permission to run any scientific study
they might wish of 2PD-OMER. I do not need Pfizer's permission
to conduct a study of Viagra, I do not the Maharishi's permssion
to investigate the medical effects of Transcendental Meditation,
I do not need Arthur Agaston's permission to run a study
on the South Beach Diet. And no scientist needs your permission
to investigate 2PD-OMER.
-- cary
Cary Kittrell
>
> On 30 Jan 2007 04:27:24 -0800, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
> <lo...@thetruth.com> wrote:
>
> >neighbor Jack (spamf...@spam.heaven) wrote:
> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >
> >http://TruthRUS.org/Guarantee
> >
> >> > The information has been freely given to the public attending
> >> > Foundation sponsored health fairs:
> >> >
> >> > http://TheHealthFair.com
> >> >
> >> > A DVD recording of the presentation of this information has been
> >> > freely given to those who have donated charitably to the Wellness
> >> > Foundation:
> >> >
> >> > http://TheWellnessFoundation.com
> >>
> >> So why not give the information freely here?
> >
> >Already have:
> >
> >> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e4cb7b29f9950011?
> QUOTE
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> There is no book for the 2PD-OMER Approach:
>
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/overweight.asp
>
>
> The solution is freely downloadable off the Internet:
>
>
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/wtloss.asp
"In 1997, my wife and I watched an IMAX film about climbing
Mt. Everest and learned that despite their exhausting regimen,
the climbers consumed only 10 lbs of food per week. That's less
than 2 lbs of food per day! Since none of the climbers died from
starvation, my initial thought was that 2 lbs of food per day
should be more than adequate for us non-climbing folks."
Of course, climbers of Mount Everest are:
-- incredibly fit athletes, who:
-- ate so little, not because it was all they
would wish, but because:
-- like climbers everywhere, they begrudge
e v e r y s i n g l e g r a m that
they have to carry six miles up through
cold, impossible terrain, and scant
oxygen, so they:
-- choose the most concentrated possible
foodstuffs available, meaning that two
pounds of mountaineer's food is quite
different from two pounds from your
local produce section or meat counter,
and finally that:
-- these dietary restrictions, imposed
by necessity, were in effect for at
most weeks at a time.
Not that I am denigrating the benefits for some of
us, possibly most of us, in lowering our caloric intakes.
I just point out that you're comparing apples and raccoons.
-- cary
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > convicted neighbor GaryG wrote:
> > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > convicted neighbor GaryG wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Take home message: "Eating less and exercising more are equally good at
> > > > > helping take off the pounds".
> > > >
> > > > Yes, the first law of thermodynamics has been confirmed.
> > > >
> > > > >From a practical standpoint, the free 2PD-OMER Approach works because
> > > > it remains in keeping with the first law of thermodynamics.
> > >
> > > As do traditional "eat less and/or exercise more" techniques...as proven by
> > > this controlled, peer-reviewed study (something your 2 pound diet lacks).
> > >
> > > BTW - if, as you claim, your 2 Pound Eating Disorder diet is "100%
> > > successful", and has a $1 million guarantee, why do you suppose it's
> > > received so little mention in the scientific literature?
> >
> > The 2PD-OMER Approach is not a diet. It has been studied in more than
> > 625,550 people worldwide:
>
> Which sould make it the largest single medical study in
> history. Fascinating. Where may we read the details
> of this study?
The manuscript is on my desk.
As for when you can read the published manuscript, that would be
according to the will of GOD.
> You know, the usual: experimental
> protocols, blinding procedures, control groups, description
> of all statstical analyses, exact wording of any questionaires,
> peer reviews, ethical oversight, publishing history?
See above.
> > http://HeartMDPhD.com/press.asp
>
> Um, nope; no additinal information there...
Simply a press release describing when the results of the study were
first publicly announced.
> > Moreover, they have not received permission to use it in their
> > studies.
>
> No one needs your permission to run any scientific study
> they might wish of 2PD-OMER. I do not need Pfizer's permission
> to conduct a study of Viagra, I do not the Maharishi's permssion
> to investigate the medical effects of Transcendental Meditation,
> I do not need Arthur Agaston's permission to run a study
> on the South Beach Diet. And no scientist needs your permission
> to investigate 2PD-OMER.
It remains wise to get permission before using copyrighted material.
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
http://EmoryCardiology.com
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Restriction on amount is not a dietary restriction. The story of the
Everest climbers simply served as an inspiration for restricting the
amount and for empirically determining that optimal amount for
everyone to eat to lose the visceral adipose tissue (VAT).
> Not that I am denigrating the benefits for some of
> us, possibly most of us, in lowering our caloric intakes.
> I just point out that you're comparing apples and raccoons.
What serves as an inspiration would not be subsequently used for
comparison purposes.
Truth is simple.
The credit for the 2PD-OMER Approach belongs to GOD, Who is the Source
of all inspiration. knowledge, and wisdom.
Laus Deo !
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
http://EmoryCardiology.com
> -- cary
Cary Kittrell
> convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > convicted neighbor GaryG wrote:
> > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > > convicted neighbor GaryG wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Take home message: "Eating less and exercising more are equally good at
> > > > > > helping take off the pounds".
> > > > >
> > > > > Yes, the first law of thermodynamics has been confirmed.
> > > > >
> > > > > >From a practical standpoint, the free 2PD-OMER Approach works because
> > > > > it remains in keeping with the first law of thermodynamics.
> > > >
> > > > As do traditional "eat less and/or exercise more" techniques...as proven by
> > > > this controlled, peer-reviewed study (something your 2 pound diet lacks).
> > > >
> > > > BTW - if, as you claim, your 2 Pound Eating Disorder diet is "100%
> > > > successful", and has a $1 million guarantee, why do you suppose it's
> > > > received so little mention in the scientific literature?
> > >
> > > The 2PD-OMER Approach is not a diet. It has been studied in more than
> > > 625,550 people worldwide:
> >
> > Which sould make it the largest single medical study in
> > history. Fascinating. Where may we read the details
> > of this study?
>
> The manuscript is on my desk.
Excellent! So, how about a few advance questions?
-- was double-blinding employed?
-- were objective measurements, as opposed to self-administered
questionaires, used as the primary source of data?
-- how were these 600,000+ people recruited for this study?
-- what measures were taken to avoid "cheating", intentional
or unintentional, on the part of the subjects?
-- will you be submitting this to a peer-reviewd journal?
>
> As for when you can read the published manuscript, that would be
> according to the will of GOD.
>
> > You know, the usual: experimental
> > protocols, blinding procedures, control groups, description
> > of all statstical analyses, exact wording of any questionaires,
> > peer reviews, ethical oversight, publishing history?
>
> See above.
>
> > > http://HeartMDPhD.com/press.asp
> >
> > Um, nope; no additinal information there...
>
> Simply a press release describing when the results of the study were
> first publicly announced.
>
> > > Moreover, they have not received permission to use it in their
> > > studies.
> >
> > No one needs your permission to run any scientific study
> > they might wish of 2PD-OMER. I do not need Pfizer's permission
> > to conduct a study of Viagra, I do not the Maharishi's permssion
> > to investigate the medical effects of Transcendental Meditation,
> > I do not need Arthur Agaston's permission to run a study
> > on the South Beach Diet. And no scientist needs your permission
> > to investigate 2PD-OMER.
>
> It remains wise to get permission before using copyrighted material.
Having a group of people limit their food intake to two pounds
a day has nothing whatsoever to do with copyright law.
-- cary
Cary Kittrell
All right, that's fair enough.
> and for empirically determining that optimal amount for
> everyone to eat to lose the visceral adipose tissue (VAT).
Given that the climbers' environment, physical status,
activities, limited period of restriction, and type of foodstuffs were
utterly different from the average person's, in what way could their
experiences be used for "empirically determining" anything applicable
to everyday life?
-- cary
Cary Kittrell
>
> Cary Kittrell wrote:
> > In article <1170155551.1...@a75g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lo...@thetruth.com> writes:
> >
> >>convicted neighbor GaryG wrote:
> >>
> >>>Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>convicted neighbor GaryG wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>Take home message: "Eating less and exercising more are equally good at
> >>>>>helping take off the pounds".
> >>>>
> >>>>Yes, the first law of thermodynamics has been confirmed.
> >>>>
> >>>>>From a practical standpoint, the free 2PD-OMER Approach works because
> >>>>it remains in keeping with the first law of thermodynamics.
> >>>
> >>>As do traditional "eat less and/or exercise more" techniques...as proven by
> >>>this controlled, peer-reviewed study (something your 2 pound diet lacks).
> >>>
> >>>BTW - if, as you claim, your 2 Pound Eating Disorder diet is "100%
> >>>successful", and has a $1 million guarantee, why do you suppose it's
> >>>received so little mention in the scientific literature?
> >>
> >>The 2PD-OMER Approach is not a diet. It has been studied in more than
> >>625,550 people worldwide:
> >
> >
> > Which sould make it the largest single medical study in
> > history. Fascinating. Where may we read the details
> > of this study?
>
Well, that has an unsettling ring of plausibility to it.
Thanks to you -- not to mention "looking for sanity" --
for that.
(gotta wonder how Dr. Chung deermined longitudinal
weight profiles for all those long-dead folks.
And not to mention the problem of what God might
do to you if you dare bitch about the 2PD-OMER restrictions
-- I mean, look what He did to the Jews who complained
eabout eating the same thing morning, noon,and night for
40 years straight [Numbers 11] ).
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:
> > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > convicted neighbor GaryG wrote:
> > > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > > > convicted neighbor GaryG wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Take home message: "Eating less and exercising more are equally good at
> > > > > > > helping take off the pounds".
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yes, the first law of thermodynamics has been confirmed.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >From a practical standpoint, the free 2PD-OMER Approach works because
> > > > > > it remains in keeping with the first law of thermodynamics.
> > > > >
> > > > > As do traditional "eat less and/or exercise more" techniques...as proven by
> > > > > this controlled, peer-reviewed study (something your 2 pound diet lacks).
> > > > >
> > > > > BTW - if, as you claim, your 2 Pound Eating Disorder diet is "100%
> > > > > successful", and has a $1 million guarantee, why do you suppose it's
> > > > > received so little mention in the scientific literature?
> > > >
> > > > The 2PD-OMER Approach is not a diet. It has been studied in more than
> > > > 625,550 people worldwide:
> > >
> > > Which sould make it the largest single medical study in
> > > history. Fascinating. Where may we read the details
> > > of this study?
> >
> > The manuscript is on my desk.
>
> Excellent! So, how about a few advance questions?
Sorry. You will simply have to wait.
Please forgive all my iniquities.
Using the 2PD-OMER Approach in the manner as described as published on
the HeartMDPhD.com web site however does.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Simply the truth.
> > and for empirically determining that optimal amount for
> > everyone to eat to lose the visceral adipose tissue (VAT).
>
> Given that the climbers' environment, physical status,
> activities, limited period of restriction, and type of foodstuffs were
> utterly different from the average person's, in what way could their
> experiences be used for "empirically determining" anything applicable
> to everyday life?
Their experience served to inspire what was subsequently empirically
determined with the guidance of the Holy Spirit.
GaryG
news:epu1tq$14d$1...@onion.ccit.arizona.edu...
FWIW, you are attempting rational discourse with an irrational person.
Chung's 2 Pound Diet derives from the voices he hears in his head...search
back in the Google archives and you can find many examples of his delusional
thinking. Last year, he posted hundreds of warnings about a "global
earthquake" and a "nuclear exchange" linked to a solar eclipse that were to
presage the violent destruction of most of humankind and the second coming
of Christ.
He also claims to be a "messenger of God", and seems to believe the he will
play some important role in the end of the world.
He also maintains a list on his website of the people who have disagreed
with him...he claims to have inside knowledge that these people (I'm one of
them) have been "convicted" by the Holy Spirit.
Bottom line...he's a whacko.
GG
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
If that were true, would no longer have an active medical license.
Truth is simple.
> Chung's 2 Pound Diet derives from the voices he hears in his head...
The 2PD-OMER Approach is not a diet.
Again, truth is simple.
> search back in the Google archives and you can find many examples of his delusional
> thinking.
If that were true, you would have provided a link to illustrate.
> Last year, he posted hundreds of warnings about a "global
> earthquake"
Simply advisories about the possibility of a great earthquake
happening right before a total solar eclipse as prophesied in the
Revelation of LORD Jesus Christ.
"There was a great earthquake. The sun turned black like sackcloth
made of goat hair..." (Revelation 6:12)
The great earthquake did occur as a magnitude 6 earthquake under the
most populous city in the world, Tokyo. GOD mercifully made this
earthquake hundreds of miles deep so as not to harm anyone. The total
solar eclipse also did happen both as predicted in Revelation and as
predicted by astronomers, witnessed by each of the seven ancient
churches of Christ in the order these churches are listed in
Revelation.
> and a "nuclear exchange" linked to a solar eclipse that were to
> presage the violent destruction of most of humankind and the second coming
> of Christ.
These remain imminent. Simply behold the ongoing developments in Iran/
Tehran which represents modern day Babylon in its posturing to
threaten the annihilation of Israel.
Simply solve the MYSTERY (anagram) on her forehead:
BABYLON THE GREAT ==> AT TEHRAN BY GLOBE
(Revelation 17:5)
> He also claims to be a "messenger of God", and seems to believe the he will
> play some important role in the end of the world.
GOD's purpose for me here remains to inform...
... simply one watchman among many who are the brethren of LORD Jesus
Christ.
> He also maintains a list on his website of the people who have disagreed
> with him...
Incorrect.
> he claims to have inside knowledge that these people (I'm one of
> them) have been "convicted" by the Holy Spirit.
It remains my choice to receive the guidance of the Holy Spirit in
everything I say, do, and write.
> Bottom line...he's a whacko.
Name-calling simply shows that you remain lost:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/dream.asp
Clearly you remain convicted by the Holy Spirit:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
May you wisely choose to surrender to HIM and receive the salvation of
LORD Jesus Christ:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/TheWay
May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water so that we
can love our neighbors a little more and LORD Jesus Christ a whole lot
more, dear neighbor Gary whom I love unconditionally.
Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit
As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
(Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love
> GG
spa...@spam.heaven
<and...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
>Restriction on amount is not a dietary restriction.
That would have to be a keeper, Andrew.
If it's not, wtf is it?
jack
spa...@spam.heaven
<and...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
>The manuscript is on my desk.
Don't tell me, it's your trusty old Bible.
jack
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > The manuscript is on my desk.
>
> Don't tell me
OK, I won't.
> , it's your trusty old Bible.
My LORD has blessed me with multiple copies of HIS Bible, which can be
found on bookshelves throughout home and office. HIS Bible has been
and will continue to be thoughtfully read by me.
On the otherhand, the manuscript about the 2PD-OMER Approach has been
penned by me with the guidance of the Holy Spirit and is on my desk as
I write this.
At this time, it is not GOD's will that this manuscript be published.
Sorry for any disappointment this might cause you. Please forgive all
my iniquities.
May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water curing our
diabetes, depression, anxiety, or panic so that we can love our
neighbors a little more and LORD Jesus Christ a whole lot more, dear
neighbor Jack whom I love unconditionally.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> >Restriction on amount is not a dietary restriction.
>
> That would have to be a keeper, Andrew.
> If it's not, wtf is it?
This is best answered by the following statement:
"Watching how much you are eating is not the same as watching what you
are eating."
The former is the 2PD-OMER Approach and the latter is dieting.
Truth is simple.
Cary Kittrell
Oh, I really doubt the Georgia Board drops by frequently to
check if you now think THEY Are Sending Rays Through Your Walls.
>
> Truth is simple.
>
> > Chung's 2 Pound Diet derives from the voices he hears in his head...
>
> The 2PD-OMER Approach is not a diet.
Restricting amount is most certainly a diet; "diet" does not
refer only to restricting type.
I'm on 1200 calories a day myself. 1200 calories of anything
I might care to eat. And that is a diet.
>
> Again, truth is simple.
>
> > search back in the Google archives and you can find many examples of his delusional
> > thinking.
>
> If that were true, you would have provided a link to illustrate.
Why? You shower us with dozens upon dozens of such links each week.
>
> > Last year, he posted hundreds of warnings about a "global
> > earthquake"
>
> Simply advisories about the possibility of a great earthquake
> happening right before a total solar eclipse as prophesied in the
> Revelation of LORD Jesus Christ.
>
> "There was a great earthquake. The sun turned black like sackcloth
> made of goat hair..." (Revelation 6:12)
>
> The great earthquake did occur as a magnitude 6 earthquake under the
> most populous city in the world, Tokyo.
Big deal. Tokyo is on the Pacific ring of fire, and gets 20%
of the world's earthquakes of magnitude 6 or greater.
And magnitude 6 -- which is what that distant earthquake registered --
is hardly a Millennial event on the Pacific ring. For example, here's what
you can expect if you're a Kiwi:
Records dating from the 1840s show that, on average,
New Zealand can expect several magnitude 6 earthquakes
every year, one magnitude 7 every 10 years, and an 8 every
century.
The Beginning of the End of the World ought to be a little
more flashy than just one more damn here-we-go-again event.
> GOD mercifully made this
> earthquake hundreds of miles deep so as not to harm anyone. The total
> solar eclipse also did happen both as predicted in Revelation and as
> predicted by astronomers, witnessed by each of the seven ancient
> churches of Christ in the order these churches are listed in
> Revelation.
>
> > and a "nuclear exchange" linked to a solar eclipse that were to
> > presage the violent destruction of most of humankind and the second coming
> > of Christ.
>
> These remain imminent. Simply behold the ongoing developments in Iran/
> Tehran which represents modern day Babylon in its posturing to
> threaten the annihilation of Israel.
>
> Simply solve the MYSTERY (anagram) on her forehead:
>
> BABYLON THE GREAT ==> AT TEHRAN BY GLOBE
>
> (Revelation 17:5)
Funny, I was under the impression that John wrote in Greek, not
far-in-the-future English.
Of course, if you can do the same thing using the original Greek
characters -- and end up with words conveying the same meaning --
then that's a different story, isn't it?
Here, give it a try:
- cary
Cary Kittrell
Oh, I increasingly suspect that `looking for sanity's post answered
more than I wanted to know.
Why, is it a pyramid scheme, wherein the suckers have to pass
on your written words to ten of their friends?
Because if it does not involve repeating your words, at length and
without your permission, then there is no violation of copyright
law.
Truth is simple.
-- cary
Madalyn the Murdered Hairball
"malscribe" <wri...@rotted.pencil> wrote in message
news:BC798CA887318@A2988C7...
>
> Does he really believe that when hikers/climbers pack they just open the
> fridge and toss their leftovers in a backpack, or some shit like that?
> What a dumbass.
>
> Chung, you fucktard, when I prepare to go hiking I can shrink about 1200
> calories down into a 4x6x2 inch package that weighs maybe eight ounces.
> They're called "granola bars." And I'm sure the sorts of hikers/climbers
> who scale Everest can do much better than that. Two pounds of that would
> be 4800 calories -- Okay if you're hiking your ass off, but a ticket to
> Fatassedness if you're not.
You are the dumbass. It is impossible to gain more wt. from a feed, than
the
weight of the food you consume during the feed.
Hollis Brown
>
> BABYLON THE GREAT ==> AT TEHRAN BY GLOBE
>
Is there anyone left who believes Mr. Chung is sane?
Anyone?
HB
Cary Kittrell
"Madalyn the Murdered Hairball" <md...@hairball.con>
Which hardly contradicts what `malscribe' said: that he could
choose foodstuffs so concentrated that eating only two pounds
of these would cause him to gain weight.
If you doubt that, consider consuming two pounds of olive
oil a day. You don't feel that you could gain weight
on a 7200-calorie-a-day diet?
-- cary
Cary Kittrell
Hey, what's your problem, bub? You don't think that Revelation
was written in 20th century English or something?
-- cary
Madalyn the Murdered Hairball
"malscribe" <wri...@rotted.pencil> wrote in message
> Madalyn the Murdered Hairball barfed up this disgusting mess:
> don't gain weight, hon. I dare you.
I could not gain more than two pounds, the weight of the 4800 cals.
Cary Kittrell
"Madalyn the Murdered Hairball" <md...@hairball.con>
>
>
Actually, with 4800 calories, you'd likely gain at most one and
a third pounds.
But so what?: `malscribe's claim was simply that you CAN gain
weight on two pounds a day of some foods, and so you can.
Even Andrew has agreed with that.
You appear to think that he said something entirely different.
-- cary
GaryG
news:u%Mwh.36550$Ts....@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
Nobody said, or implied, that you would gain more than the food weight.
The point is that you can gain OR lose weight with the silly "2 Pound Diet",
depending on what food choices were made for the 2 lbs of food.
GG
Michael Gray
wrote:
- Refer: <1170439169....@s48g2000cws.googlegroups.com>
Mr. Chung is the only one left.
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
And yet you are still participating in this thread.
No.
> Because if it does not involve repeating your words, at length and
> without your permission, then there is no violation of copyright
> law.
Would suggest you read the instructions in the PDF file for the 2PD-
OMER Approach.
> Truth is simple.
Indeed.
Clearly you remain convicted by the Holy Spirit:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
Andrew <><
Hollis Brown
>
> BABYLON THE GREAT ==> AT TEHRAN BY GLOBE
>
Anagrams are amusing, aren't they?
Andrew B. Chung ==> chew barn dung
Too bad you are male; many possibilities with "wench." (darn bug
wench) (gd urban wench)
Fun for the whole family! (ages 8 to 80)
HB
Sockpuppet Flying Rat Convict #42
lo...@thetruth.com says...
> These remain imminent. Simply behold the ongoing developments in Iran/
> Tehran which represents modern day Babylon in its posturing to
> threaten the annihilation of Israel.
>
> Simply solve the MYSTERY (anagram) on her forehead:
>
> BABYLON THE GREAT ==> AT TEHRAN BY GLOBE
>
> (Revelation 17:5)
>
could you get any more stupid?
This latest k00kout is going to earn you another k00k award. Thinking
the Bible was written in English has to be up there with some of the
saucerheads and kaz00 in its weirdness.
For all you know, in the original language "Babylon the great" could be
an anagram of "Chung is a fucking kook"
FR
--
The Bells of Hell go ting-a-ling-a-ling, for you but not for me.
And the little devils have a sing-a-ling-a-ling, for you but not for me.
Oh death where is they sting-a-ling-a-ling, oh grave thy victory?
The Bells of Hell go ting-a-ling-a-ling, for you but not for me
Cary Kittrell
Obviously it forms a postdiction, not a prediction,
as "Tehran got le baby" expresses perfectly the stunned,
albeit amused, reaction of the diplomatically sophisticated
French on observing the Iranian humiliation the naif
young American President, Jimmy Carter, back in 1979.
-- cary
Cary Kittrell
On second thought, maybe we're supposed to understand
this as a reference to a now-forgotten species of
large, colorful, if flightless, bird: "the long tabby rea"?
-- cary
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, wrote:
>
> > BABYLON THE GREAT ==> AT TEHRAN BY GLOBE
>
> Anagrams are amusing, aren't they?
Not to me.
Clearly Babylon is at Tehran:
Cary Kittrell
> neighbor Hollis Brown wrote:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, wrote:
> >
> > > BABYLON THE GREAT ==> AT TEHRAN BY GLOBE
> >
> > Anagrams are amusing, aren't they?
>
> Not to me.
>
> Clearly Babylon is at Tehran:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/2haluw
Or North Korea. Or India. Or Israel.
Or right here.
-- cary
GaryG
Congratulations, Cary...Andy now imagines that you're one of the
"convicted". Of course, with his delusions it doesn't take much for him to
put you in that category. Last year, he was imagining that he could see the
"mark of Satan" on lots of folks' foreheads.
GG
wond...@phreaker.net
he get lost?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olivet_discourse
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unfulfilled_historical_predictions_by_Christians
spa...@spam.heaven
wrote:
Isn't the two pounds supposed to be Manna? This sounds like the
equivalent of dried maple syrup, so pure sugar, so roughly 3600
calories in two pounds. But then this would be a reasonable energy
need when carting your worldly possessions about in the desert for 40
years. I wonder where they got their B12 friom? Perhaps the odd ritual
sacrifice of a sheep or two?
jack
SameAsEver
<spa...@spam.heaven> wrote in message
news:v9h8s25qmjlolbohm...@4ax.com...
Jack would be worth an ass or two.
SameAsB4
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Without the LORD, you will have only doubt and despair.
> >
> > Truth is simple.
> >
> > > Chung's 2 Pound Diet derives from the voices he hears in his head...
> >
> > The 2PD-OMER Approach is not a diet.
>
> Restricting amount is most certainly a diet; "diet" does not
> refer only to restricting type.
Diet refers to what you are eating and not how much.
> I'm on 1200 calories a day myself.
That indicates nothing about your diet.
> 1200 calories of anything
> I might care to eat.
That would be 1200 calories of your usual diet.
> And that is a diet.
After you specified that it was "of anything I might care to eat."
> >
> > Again, truth is simple.
> >
> > > search back in the Google archives and you can find many examples of his delusional
> > > thinking.
>
> >
> > If that were true, you would have provided a link to illustrate.
>
> Why?
Folks tend to provide evidence when it bolsters their case and avoid
things that weaken it.
>You shower us with dozens upon dozens of such links each week.
None bolstering your false witness.
> > > Last year, he posted hundreds of warnings about a "global
> > > earthquake"
> >
> > Simply advisories about the possibility of a great earthquake
> > happening right before a total solar eclipse as prophesied in the
> > Revelation of LORD Jesus Christ.
> >
> > "There was a great earthquake. The sun turned black like sackcloth
> > made of goat hair..." (Revelation 6:12)
> >
> > The great earthquake did occur as a magnitude 6 earthquake under the
> > most populous city in the world, Tokyo.
>
> Big deal. Tokyo is on the Pacific ring of fire, and gets 20%
> of the world's earthquakes of magnitude 6 or greater.
An earthquake that is magnitude 6 at more than 200 miles below the
surface has enough energy for a magnitude 9 earthquake at the surface.
> And magnitude 6 -- which is what that distant earthquake registered --
> is hardly a Millennial event on the Pacific ring. For example, here's what
> you can expect if you're a Kiwi:
>
> Records dating from the 1840s show that, on average,
> New Zealand can expect several magnitude 6 earthquakes
> every year, one magnitude 7 every 10 years, and an 8 every
> century.
>
> The Beginning of the End of the World ought to be a little
> more flashy than just one more damn here-we-go-again event.
Magnitude 6 earthquakes with epicentres more than 200 miles below the
surface especially underneath Tokyo are rare.
> > GOD mercifully made this
> > earthquake hundreds of miles deep so as not to harm anyone. The total
> > solar eclipse also did happen both as predicted in Revelation and as
> > predicted by astronomers, witnessed by each of the seven ancient
> > churches of Christ in the order these churches are listed in
> > Revelation.
> >
> > > and a "nuclear exchange" linked to a solar eclipse that were to
> > > presage the violent destruction of most of humankind and the second coming
> > > of Christ.
> >
> > These remain imminent. Simply behold the ongoing developments in Iran/
> > Tehran which represents modern day Babylon in its posturing to
> > threaten the annihilation of Israel.
> >
> > Simply solve the MYSTERY (anagram) on her forehead:
> >
> > BABYLON THE GREAT ==> AT TEHRAN BY GLOBE
> >
> > (Revelation 17:5)
>
> Funny, I was under the impression that John wrote in Greek, not
> far-in-the-future English.
The Holy Spirit guided not only John's writing of Revelation but has
also guided all subsequent translations of Revelation.
> Of course, if you can do the same thing using the original Greek
> characters -- and end up with words conveying the same meaning --
> then that's a different story, isn't it?
The anagram is specific for this time and this medium that is usenet
and was not meant for John's time during his exile on Patmos.
> Here, give it a try:
βαβυλων η μεγαλη ==> BABYLON THE GREAT ==> AT TEHRAN BY GLOBE
Suggested reading:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tehran
GOD's will be done and not our wills.
Laus Deo !
Marana tha ! !
Clearly you remain convicted by the Holy Spirit:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
Andrew <><
Qadosh Stephanos
<lov...@thetruth.com> wrote:
>The Holy Spirit guided not only John's writing of Revelation but has
>also guided all subsequent translations of Revelation.
You mean like those many italicized and those suggestive additions.
I guess those italicized word phrases were inspired by translators.
John's the Baptist diet was locusts and honey. Is that not enough?
The Demon Prince of Absurdity
screamed:
> spa...@spam.heaven wrote:
>> On Fri, 2 Feb 2007 12:54:17 -0800, "GaryG" wrote:
>>> "Madalyn the Murdered Hairball" wrote...
>>>> "malscribe" wrote...
>>>>> Madalyn the Murdered Hairball barfed up this disgusting mess:
Good to see you know your proper tongue, Monkey-man.
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and ill upon other humans, warmongering gay-hating maladroits or no, and
that the real path of enlightenment is paved with forgiveness and
progress and white-hot love and turning the other cheek and scotch.
"In fact, Jesus said something about that, I do believe. He said, "Knock
it off already with the warmongering and the hating of each other and
let's all get some wine and party like it's 2012." Then again, he never
saw Karl Rove stab the nation with the dull ice pick of bogus fear. He
never heard George W. Bush describe brutal war and the death of tens of
thousands as "just a comma" in world history.
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SameAsB4
Art Deco
>On Mon, 29 Jan 2007 18:57:01 -0800, GaryG wrote:
>
>>>
>>> Yes, the first law of thermodynamics has been confirmed.
>>>
>>>>From a practical standpoint, the free 2PD-OMER Approach works because
>>> it remains in keeping with the first law of thermodynamics.
>>
>> As do traditional "eat less and/or exercise more" techniques...as proven by
>> this controlled, peer-reviewed study (something your 2 pound diet lacks).
>>
>> BTW - if, as you claim, your 2 Pound Eating Disorder diet is "100%
>> successful", and has a $1 million guarantee, why do you suppose it's
>> received so little mention in the scientific literature?
>
>Well now, GG, here's your Golden Chance to be the one who makes the
>million, drawing attention and praise and chicks and endorsements galore
>for breaking the 2PD Davinci Code or...
>
>to take it tho the science reviews yourself, it is a win-win for you.
>
>Somehow I think, God Himself only knows why, you're going to do neither.
>Disprove the 2PD or embrace it and have it "proven" by scientific
>means".
>
>I'll wait for you to decide. Don't count on me holding Mu breath.
You never answered my question:
Do you believe the Chung diet is a cure for diabetes as he claims?
--
"To err is human, to cover it up is Weasel" -- Dogbert
Art Deco
>> Unless it really is a scam.
>
>It should be obvious to the most casual observer that this million
>dollar guarantee for the 2PD-OMER Approach is not a scam.
Of course it is, Chung, you keep the details of your fraudulent diet
"guarantee" well-hidden so no one can actually try to claim it.
Art Deco
>neighbor Jack (spam...@spam.heaven) wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>
>> >Restriction on amount is not a dietary restriction.
>>
>> That would have to be a keeper, Andrew.
>> If it's not, wtf is it?
>
>This is best answered by the following statement:
>
>"Watching how much you are eating is not the same as watching what you
>are eating."
>
>The former is the 2PD-OMER Approach and the latter is dieting.
Another example of Chung's linguistic waffling.
Art Deco
>convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> > convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:
>> > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> > > > convicted neighbor GaryG wrote:
>> > > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> > > > > > convicted neighbor GaryG wrote:
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Take home message: "Eating less and exercising more are equally
>good at
>> > > > > > > helping take off the pounds".
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Yes, the first law of thermodynamics has been confirmed.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > >From a practical standpoint, the free 2PD-OMER Approach works
>because
>> > > > > > it remains in keeping with the first law of thermodynamics.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > As do traditional "eat less and/or exercise more" techniques...as
>> > > > > proven by
>> > > > > this controlled, peer-reviewed study (something your 2 pound diet
>> > > > > lacks).
>> > > > >
>> > > > > BTW - if, as you claim, your 2 Pound Eating Disorder diet is "100%
>> > > > > successful", and has a $1 million guarantee, why do you suppose it's
>> > > > > received so little mention in the scientific literature?
>> > > >
>> > > > The 2PD-OMER Approach is not a diet. It has been studied in more than
>> > > > 625,550 people worldwide:
>> > >
>> > > Which sould make it the largest single medical study in
>> > > history. Fascinating. Where may we read the details
>> > > of this study?
>> >
>> > The manuscript is on my desk.
>>
>> Excellent! So, how about a few advance questions?
>
>Sorry. You will simply have to wait.
Until Chung find more marks.
>
>Please forgive all my iniquities.
Standard ChungScript line 3, covering his cowardice in evading the
questions below.
>
>> -- was double-blinding employed?
Note: no response.
>>
>> -- were objective measurements, as opposed to self-administered
>> questionaires, used as the primary source of data?
Note: no response.
>>
>> -- how were these 600,000+ people recruited for this study?
Note: no response.
>>
>> -- what measures were taken to avoid "cheating", intentional
>> or unintentional, on the part of the subjects?
>
Note: no response.
>
>> -- will you be submitting this to a peer-reviewd journal?
Note: no response.
[...]
>> > > > Moreover, they have not received permission to use it in their
>> > > > studies.
>> > >
>> > > No one needs your permission to run any scientific study
>> > > they might wish of 2PD-OMER. I do not need Pfizer's permission
>> > > to conduct a study of Viagra, I do not the Maharishi's permssion
>> > > to investigate the medical effects of Transcendental Meditation,
>> > > I do not need Arthur Agaston's permission to run a study
>> > > on the South Beach Diet. And no scientist needs your permission
>> > > to investigate 2PD-OMER.
>> >
>> > It remains wise to get permission before using copyrighted material.
>>
>> Having a group of people limit their food intake to two pounds
>> a day has nothing whatsoever to do with copyright law.
>
>Using the 2PD-OMER Approach in the manner as described as published on
>the HeartMDPhD.com web site however does.
So the double-doctor and triple-coward is also an expert on copyright
laws.
Hahahahahahahahahahahah
Art Deco
And yet you are still a coward for running away from Cary's questions.
>
>> > Please forgive all my iniquities.
>> >
>> > > -- was double-blinding employed?
>> > >
>> > > -- were objective measurements, as opposed to self-administered
>> > > questionaires, used as the primary source of data?
>> > >
>> > > -- how were these 600,000+ people recruited for this study?
>> > >
>> > > -- what measures were taken to avoid "cheating", intentional
>> > > or unintentional, on the part of the subjects?
>> > >
>> > > -- will you be submitting this to a peer-reviewd journal?
Note: still no response from triple-coward Chung.
What "PDF file", you fraud? If it really exists, it is probably just
another example of your circular references.
>
>> Truth is simple.
>
>Indeed.
>
>Clearly you rem
Oh shuttup, Chung.
Art Deco
>> > > > > No one needs your permission to run any scientific study
>> > > > > they might wish of 2PD-OMER. I do not need Pfizer's permission
>> > > > > to conduct a study of Viagra, I do not the Maharishi's permssion
>> > > > > to investigate the medical effects of Transcendental Meditation,
>> > > > > I do not need Arthur Agaston's permission to run a study
>> > > > > on the South Beach Diet. And no scientist needs your permission
>> > > > > to investigate 2PD-OMER.
>> > > >
>> > > > It remains wise to get permission before using copyrighted material.
>> > >
>> > > Having a group of people limit their food intake to two pounds
>> > > a day has nothing whatsoever to do with copyright law.
>> >
>> > Using the 2PD-OMER Approach in the manner as described as published on
>> > the HeartMDPhD.com web site however does.
>>
>>
>> Why, is it a pyramid scheme, wherein the suckers have to pass
>> on your written words to ten of their friends?
>>
>> Because if it does not involve repeating your words, at length and
>> without your permission, then there is no violation of copyright
>> law.
>>
>>
>> Truth is simple.
>>
>>
>> -- cary
>
>Congratulations, Cary...Andy now imagines that you're one of the
>"convicted". Of course, with his delusions it doesn't take much for him to
>put you in that category. Last year, he was imagining that he could see the
>"mark of Satan" on lots of folks' foreheads.
Or even transmogrified into a "demon" and "sockpuppet of satan",
lacking "free will", and "loitering on usenet".
Art Deco
>neighbor Jack (spa...@spam.heaven) wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>
>> > The manuscript is on my desk.
>>
>> Don't tell me
>
>OK, I won't.
>
>> , it's your trusty old Bible.
>
>My LORD has blessed me with multiple copies of HIS Bible, which can be
>found on bookshelves throughout home and office. HIS Bible has been
>and will continue to be thoughtfully read by me.
No evidence of this, Chung, as you regularly demonstrate your ignorance
of scripture on usenet.
>
>On the otherhand, the manuscript about the 2PD-OMER Approach has been
>penned by me with the guidance of the Holy Spirit and is on my desk as
>I write this.
Suuuuuuuuuuure it is.
>
>At this time, it is not GOD's will that this manuscript be published.
One might imagine that God would want a "cure for diabetes" to be
available far and wide.
>
>Sorry for any disappointment this might cause you. Please forgive all
>my iniquities.
How long before Jack is transformed from "neighbor" to "convict", Chung?
Art Deco
>> > > and for empirically determining that optimal amount for
>> > > everyone to eat to lose the visceral adipose tissue (VAT).
>> >
>> > Given that the climbers' environment, physical status,
>> > activities, limited period of restriction, and type of foodstuffs were
>> > utterly different from the average person's, in what way could their
>> > experiences be used for "empirically determining" anything applicable
>> > to everyday life?
>>
>> FWIW, you are attempting rational discourse with an irrational person.
>
>If that were true, would no longer have an active medical license.
>
>Truth is simple.
>
>> Chung's 2 Pound Diet derives from the voices he hears in his head...
>
>The 2PD-OMER Approach is not a diet.
Correct -- it is a fraud.
>
>Again, truth is simple.
>
>> search back in the Google archives and you can find many examples of his
>> delusional
>> thinking.
>
>If that were true, you would have provided a link to illustrate.
Oh the irony.
>
>> Last year, he posted hundreds of warnings about a "global
>> earthquake"
>
>Simply advisories about the possibility of a great earthquake
>happening right before a total solar eclipse as prophesied in the
>Revelation of LORD Jesus Christ.
>
>"There was a great earthquake. The sun turned black like sackcloth
>made of goat hair..." (Revelation 6:12)
>
>The great earthquake did occur as a magnitude 6 earthquake under the
>most populous city in the world, Tokyo. GOD mercifully made this
>earthquake hundreds of miles deep so as not to harm anyone. The total
>solar eclipse also did happen both as predicted in Revelation and as
>predicted by astronomers, witnessed by each of the seven ancient
>churches of Christ in the order these churches are listed in
>Revelation.
How many total eclipses of the sun have occurred since the first
century, oh great double-doctor?
>
>> and a "nuclear exchange" linked to a solar eclipse that were to
>> presage the violent destruction of most of humankind and the second coming
>> of Christ.
>
>These remain imminent. Simply behold the ongoing developments in Iran/
>Tehran which represents modern day Babylon in its posturing to
>threaten the annihilation of Israel.
>
>Simply solve the MYSTERY (anagram) on her forehead:
>
>BABYLON THE GREAT ==> AT TEHRAN BY GLOBE
>
>(Revelation 17:5)
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
Fancy a round of "Pin the Tail on the Antichrist", Chung?
Art Deco
>> > Given that the climbers' environment, physical status,
>> > activities, limited period of restriction, and type of foodstuffs were
>> > utterly different from the average person's, in what way could their
>> > experiences be used for "empirically determining" anything applicable
>> > to everyday life?
>>
>> FWIW, you are attempting rational discourse with an irrational person.
>
>If that were true, would no longer have an active medical license.
>
>Truth is simple.
>
>> Chung's 2 Pound Diet derives from the voices he hears in his head...
>
>The 2PD-OMER Approach is not a diet.
Correct, it is a fraud with fraudulent claims.
Hahahaahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahaahahahah
>
>(Revelation 17:5)
>
>> He also claims to be a "messenger of God", and seems to believe the he will
>> play some important role in the end of the world.
>
>GOD's purpose for me here remains to inform...
Art Deco
Art Deco
Or wherever Chung sees fit to pound the square peg into the round hole.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> >The Holy Spirit guided not only John's writing of Revelation but has
> >also guided all subsequent translations of Revelation.
>
> You mean like those many italicized and those suggestive additions.
Either adding to or taking from a written work would not be
translating it.
Truth is simple.
Clearly you remain convicted by the Holy Spirit:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
This would be an observation rather than judgment.
Those of this world automatically judge what the observe.
Because the brethren of LORD Jesus Christ are no longer of this world
just as HE is not of this world, we don't.
Laus Deo ! !
Marana tha ! ! !
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
http://EmoryCardiology.com
> I guess those italicized word phrases were inspired by translators.
Free Lunch
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <and...@emorycardiology.com> wrote in
<1170524831....@m58g2000cwm.googlegroups.com>:
>convicted neighbor Qadosh Stephanos wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>
>> >The Holy Spirit guided not only John's writing of Revelation but has
>> >also guided all subsequent translations of Revelation.
>>
>> You mean like those many italicized and those suggestive additions.
>
>Either adding to or taking from a written work would not be
>translating it.
It is impossible to translate from one language to another without
taking into account the way grammar and idiom work in the two languages.
If you merely substitute words, your translation will be nearly
worthless.
>Truth is simple.
That may be, but your lies are also simple.
>Clearly you remain convicted by the Holy Spirit:
>
>http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
>
>This would be an observation rather than judgment.
>
>Those of this world automatically judge what the observe.
>
>Because the brethren of LORD Jesus Christ are no longer of this world
>just as HE is not of this world, we don't.
>
>Laus Deo ! !
>
>Marana tha ! ! !
>
>Andrew <><
You mock God daily.
Doug
> Your guy said he will return in the lifetime of his followers. Maybe
> he get lost?
He said, Matthew 24:34 "Verily I say unto you, This generation shall
not pass, till all these things be fulfilled."
There is something unique about the generation Jesus belonged to.
Since Jesus rose from the grave, and remains alive to this day, it
still exists!
Maybe you have overlooked that?
Doug
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olivet_discourse
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unfulfilled_historical_predictions_by_Ch...
The Demon Prince of Absurdity
screamed:
> Art Deco barfed up this disgusting mess:
>
>> Oh shuttup, Chung.
>
> [alt.support.diet and alt.support.diabetes snecked]
>
> You abusive fuckhead.
Bitter jitter.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> neighbor wonder...@Phreaker.net wrote:
>
> > Your guy said he will return in the lifetime of his followers. Maybe
> > he get lost?
>
> He said, Matthew 24:34 "Verily I say unto you, This generation shall
> not pass, till all these things be fulfilled."
>
> There is something unique about the generation Jesus belonged to.
> Since Jesus rose from the grave, and remains alive to this day, it
> still exists!
>
> Maybe you have overlooked that?
Moreover, LORD Jesus Christ remains in possession of the keys to death
and hell along with all the power and authority in this world.
Therefore, HIS followers, who are HIS brethren, all remain alive in
HIM to this day. We have been given eternal life.
"I am the way, the truth, and the life..." -- LORD Jesus Christ
Amen ! Laus Deo ! ! ! Marana tha ! ! ! ! ! ! !
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
http://EmoryCardiology.com
> Doug
>
> >
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olivet_discourse
> >
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unfulfilled_historical_predictions_by_Ch...
The Demon Prince of Absurdity
screamed:
> Art Deco barfed up this disgusting mess:
>
>> "free will", and "loitering on usenet".
>
> problems without people like Chung adding even more. Asshole.
There, that's more accurate and reflective of reality.
Bible Believer
>On Feb 3, 1:10 am, wonder...@Phreaker.net wrote:
>
>> Your guy said he will return in the lifetime of his followers.
>> Maybe he get lost?
>
>He said, Matthew 24:34 "Verily I say unto you, This generation shall
>not pass, till all these things be fulfilled."
>
>There is something unique about the generation Jesus belonged to.
>Since Jesus rose from the grave, and remains alive to this day, it
>still exists!
>
>Maybe you have overlooked that?
Have you overlooked that you had no valid response?
Jesus said what he said. You try to talk around it.
I don't. And I know He came.
--
The Bible is the inerrant word of the living God!
If you don't believe the Bible, don't tell me that
you are a Christian. I won't believe you. To make
that claim, is to be a heretic who does not know God.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Believer) wrote:
> brother Doug wrote:
> > neighbor wonder...@Phreaker.net wrote:
> >
> >> Your guy said he will return in the lifetime of his followers.
> >> Maybe he get lost?
> >
> >He said, Matthew 24:34 "Verily I say unto you, This generation shall
> >not pass, till all these things be fulfilled."
> >
> >There is something unique about the generation Jesus belonged to.
> >Since Jesus rose from the grave, and remains alive to this day, it
> >still exists!
> >
> >Maybe you have overlooked that?
>
> Have you overlooked that you had no valid response?
> Jesus said what he said. You try to talk around it.
> I don't. And I know He came.
HIS brethren know HE will return:
> > http://groups.google.com/group/alt.christnet.christianlife/msg/d4b59761d9caeef1?
Clearly you remain convicted by the Holy Spirit:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
http://EmoryCardiology.com
Clearly, you remain
The Secretary of HomIntern
> screamed:
>> Art Deco barfed up this disgusting mess:
>>
>>> Or even transmogrified into a "demon" and "sockpuppet of satan", lacking
>>> "free will", and "loitering on usenet".
>> And trolling support groups, because those people don't have enough
>> problems without people like Chung adding even more. Asshole.
>
> There, that's more accurate and reflective of reality.
>
Art Deco
>On Sat, 03 Feb 2007 17:20:00 +0000, malscribe did the cha-cha, and
>screamed:
>> Art Deco barfed up this disgusting mess:
>>
>>> Oh shuttup, Chung.
>>
>> [alt.support.diet and alt.support.diabetes snecked]
>>
>> You abusive fuckhead.
>
>Bitter jitter.
I was just going to mention that he/she/it seems especially bitter
today. Nevermind.
SameAsB4
> On Sat, 03 Feb 2007 17:20:00 +0000, malscribe did the cha-cha, and
> screamed:
>> Art Deco barfed up this disgusting mess:
>>
>>> Oh shuttup, Chung.
>> [alt.support.diet and alt.support.diabetes snecked]
>>
>> You abusive fuckhead.
>
> Bitter jitter.
>
malscribetard. Man you are f*cking desperate as MaxWhore in a free
clinic Trying to get her valtrex on!
Mark K. Bilbo
> If that were true, would no longer have an active medical license.
All that means is the state hasn't *yet caught up with you...
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
------------------------------------------------------------
"You believe in a book that has talking animals, wizards,
witches, demons, sticks turning into snakes, food falling
from the sky, people walking on water, and all sorts of magical,
absurd and primitive stories, and you say that *we* are the
ones that need help?" - Jon Stoll
Art Deco
>In article <1170439169....@s48g2000cws.googlegroups.com> "Hollis
>Brown" <AT_Ta...@hotmail.com> writes:
>> Mr. Chung wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > BABYLON THE GREAT ==> AT TEHRAN BY GLOBE
>> >
>>
>>
>> Is there anyone left who believes Mr. Chung is sane?
>>
>> Anyone?
>>
>
>Hey, what's your problem, bub? You don't think that Revelation
>was written in 20th century English or something?
I can play this game, too:
A BABE LENGTH TROY
A BATHROBE GENTLY
A BABEL TENTH ORGY
A GRABBY TELETHON
A BABY TETHER LONG
ALGEBRA BOY TENTH
BALBOA REGENT THY
BEANBAG THOLE TRY
TABBY RANT EEL HOG
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Don Kirkman
article <1170504921.6...@l53g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>:
[. . .]
>An earthquake that is magnitude 6 at more than 200 miles below the
>surface has enough energy for a magnitude 9 earthquake at the surface.
You failed your geophysics and seismology classes, apparently. The
magnitude of an earthquake is a fixed number (which may be revised up or
down as additional readings are collected); it does not vary at the spot
where it occurs from what it is at the epicenter (which means the spot
on the earth's surface directly above where the quake was centered).
You are referring (inaccurately) about perceived effects, not released
energy. The Japanese system includes readings for perceived effects,
but they have nothing to do with Richter readings.
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Stephen Knight
<ach...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
>HIS brethren know HE will return:
In their lifetime. Read the bible, shithead. It says 'in THEIR
lifetime'. Now... TWO THOUSAND YEARS LATER!!!!!!!!!!....
Duh!
Stop being a god, Dung. You're a judgmental sack of psychotic shit
that thinks he's supernaturally special and you don't miss a beat
telling us you are.
Get some help.
Warlord Steve
BAAWA
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
>
> >An earthquake that is magnitude 6 at more than 200 miles below the
> >surface has enough energy for a magnitude 9 earthquake at the surface.
>
> You failed your geophysics and seismology classes, apparently.
Incorrect.
The rest of your post sadly does not improve with further reading.
> The
> magnitude of an earthquake is a fixed number (which may be revised up or
> down as additional readings are collected); it does not vary at the spot
> where it occurs from what it is at the epicenter (which means the spot
> on the earth's surface directly above where the quake was centered).
"The violence of seismic shaking varies considerably over a single
affected area. Because the entire range of observed effects is not
capable of simple quantitative definition, the strength of the shaking
is commonly estimated by reference to intensity scales that describe
the effects in qualitative terms. Intensity scales date from the late
19th and early 20th centuries, before seismographs capable of accurate
measurement of ground motion were developed. Since that time, the
divisions in these scales have been associated with measurable
accelerations of the local ground shaking. Intensity depends, however,
in a complicated way not only on ground accelerations but also on the
periods and other features of seismic waves, the distance of the
measuring point from the source, and the local geologic structure.
Furthermore, earthquake intensity, or strength, is distinct from
earthquake magnitude, which is a measure of the amplitude, or size, of
seismic waves as specified by a seismograph reading."
Source:
http://www.britannica.com/eb/article-59556/earthquake
> You are referring (inaccurately) about perceived effects, not released
> energy. The Japanese system includes readings for perceived effects,
> but they have nothing to do with Richter readings.
I am not referring to perceived effects (ie intensity) which was low
(there was no report of either damage or injury) for the March 2006
Tokyo earthquake that was magnitude 6 (Richter scale) because it was
situated mercifully at a depth of more than 200 miles, which is well
below the thickness of the tectonic plates of Earth's crust. This was
possibly the great earthquake triggered by the Lamb's opening of the
sixth seal (Revelation 6:12) right before the "sun turned black like
sackcloth made of goat hair," which was witnessed by the seven ancient
churches of Christ in the order that they were addressed in the
Revelation of LORD Jesus Christ.
Andrew <><
Art Deco
>> You are referring (inaccurately) about perceived effects, not released
>> energy. The Japanese system includes readings for perceived effects,
>> but they have nothing to do with Richter readings.
>
>I am not referring to perceived effects (ie intensity) which was low
>(there was no report of either damage or injury) for the March 2006
>Tokyo earthquake that was magnitude 6 (Richter scale) because it was
>situated mercifully at a depth of more than 200 miles, which is well
>below the thickness of the tectonic plates of Earth's crust. This was
>possibly the great earthquake triggered by the Lamb's opening of the
>sixth seal (Revelation 6:12) right before the "sun turned black like
>sackcloth made of goat hair," which was witnessed by the seven ancient
>churches of Christ in the order that they were addressed in the
>Revelation of LORD Jesus Christ.
I had granola and fresh grapefruit for breakfast this morning, Chung,
all-in-all I have to say that so far this tribulation stuff has been
quite delightful.
Father Haskell
wrote:
> Simply advisories about the possibility of a great earthquake
> happening right before a total solar eclipse as prophesied in the
> Revelation of LORD Jesus Christ.
>
> "There was a great earthquake. The sun turned black like sackcloth
> made of goat hair..." (Revelation 6:12)
Well, now there's a universally understood image.
> The great earthquake did occur as a magnitude 6 earthquake under the
> most populous city in the world, Tokyo. GOD mercifully made this
> earthquake hundreds of miles deep so as not to harm anyone.
Wonder what the useless fucker was doing during Hiroshima and
Nagasaki?
Don Kirkman
>convicted neighbor Don Kirkman wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, badly wrote:
>> [. . .]
>> >An earthquake that is magnitude 6 at more than 200 miles below the
>> >surface has enough energy for a magnitude 9 earthquake at the surface.
>> You failed your geophysics and seismology classes, apparently.
>Incorrect.
Failing such classes would still have benefitted you more than failing
to take them.
>The rest of your post sadly does not improve with further reading.
No improvement needed; facts are simple.
>> The
>> magnitude of an earthquake is a fixed number (which may be revised up or
>> down as additional readings are collected); it does not vary at the spot
>> where it occurs from what it is at the epicenter (which means the spot
>> on the earth's surface directly above where the quake was centered).
>"The violence of seismic shaking varies considerably over a single
>affected area. Because the entire range of observed effects is not
>capable of simple quantitative definition, the strength of the shaking
>is commonly estimated by reference to intensity scales that describe
>the effects in qualitative terms. Intensity scales date from the late
>19th and early 20th centuries, before seismographs capable of accurate
>measurement of ground motion were developed. Since that time, the
>divisions in these scales have been associated with measurable
>accelerations of the local ground shaking. Intensity depends, however,
>in a complicated way not only on ground accelerations but also on the
>periods and other features of seismic waves, the distance of the
>measuring point from the source, and the local geologic structure.
>Furthermore, earthquake intensity, or strength, is distinct from
>earthquake magnitude, which is a measure of the amplitude, or size, of
>seismic waves as specified by a seismograph reading."
>
>Source:
>http://www.britannica.com/eb/article-59556/earthquake
This details what I told you in one or two sentences--the Japanese scale
measures surface effects, i.e., intensity of shaking.
>> You are referring (inaccurately) about perceived effects, not released
>> energy. The Japanese system includes readings for perceived effects,
>> but they have nothing to do with Richter readings.
>I am not referring to perceived effects (ie intensity) which was low
>(there was no report of either damage or injury) for the March 2006
>Tokyo earthquake that was magnitude 6 (Richter scale) because it was
>situated mercifully at a depth of more than 200 miles, which is well
>below the thickness of the tectonic plates of Earth's crust. This was
>possibly the great earthquake triggered by the Lamb's opening of the
>sixth seal (Revelation 6:12) right before the "sun turned black like
>sackcloth made of goat hair," which was witnessed by the seven ancient
>churches of Christ in the order that they were addressed in the
>Revelation of LORD Jesus Christ.
If you weren't referring to intensity why did you insert that reference
about it? The magnitude of that earthquake was 6 (Richter scale) at
the surface, at the rupture, at MIT, at Cal Tech, at Emory, because an
earthquake has one and only one magnitude, as I said. Your assertion
that it was 9 at the surface is an impossibility on a magnitude scale
and even you now admit it was not the intensity at the epicenter of the
earthquake which only you claim was a "great" earthquake.
--
Don Kirkman
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> >convicted neighbor Don Kirkman wrote:
> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, badly wrote:
>
> >> [. . .]
>
> >> >surface has enough energy for a magnitude 9 earthquake at the surface.
**emphasis** added.
> >> You failed your geophysics and seismology classes, apparently.
>
> >Incorrect.
>
> Failing such classes would still have benefitted you more than failing
> to take them.
Being truthful benefits me more than anything the world has to offer.
> >The rest of your post sadly does not improve with further reading.
>
> No improvement needed; facts are simple.
Your being untruthful is the only simple fact here.
> >> The
> >> magnitude of an earthquake is a fixed number (which may be revised up or
> >> down as additional readings are collected); it does not vary at the spot
> >> where it occurs from what it is at the epicenter (which means the spot
> >> on the earth's surface directly above where the quake was centered).
>
> >"The violence of seismic shaking varies considerably over a single
> >affected area. Because the entire range of observed effects is not
> >capable of simple quantitative definition, the strength of the shaking
> >is commonly estimated by reference to intensity scales that describe
> >the effects in qualitative terms. Intensity scales date from the late
> >19th and early 20th centuries, before seismographs capable of accurate
> >measurement of ground motion were developed. Since that time, the
> >divisions in these scales have been associated with measurable
> >accelerations of the local ground shaking. Intensity depends, however,
> >in a complicated way not only on ground accelerations but also on the
> >periods and other features of seismic waves, the distance of the
> >measuring point from the source, and the local geologic structure.
> >Furthermore, earthquake intensity, or strength, is distinct from
> >earthquake magnitude, which is a measure of the amplitude, or size, of
> >seismic waves as specified by a seismograph reading."
> >
> >Source:
>
> >http://www.britannica.com/eb/article-59556/earthquake
>
> This details what I told you in one or two sentences--the Japanese scale
> measures surface effects, i.e., intensity of shaking.
This serves to help folks understand there is a difference between
**magnitude** and intensity. With this understanding, your attempt to
pull the discussion to intensity can be clearly seen. See
**emphasis** above.
> >> You are referring (inaccurately) about perceived effects, not released
> >> energy. The Japanese system includes readings for perceived effects,
> >> but they have nothing to do with Richter readings.
>
> >I am not referring to perceived effects (ie intensity) which was low
> >(there was no report of either damage or injury) for the March 2006
> >Tokyo earthquake that was magnitude 6 (Richter scale) because it was
> >situated mercifully at a depth of more than 200 miles, which is well
> >below the thickness of the tectonic plates of Earth's crust. This was
> >possibly the great earthquake triggered by the Lamb's opening of the
> >sixth seal (Revelation 6:12) right before the "sun turned black like
> >sackcloth made of goat hair," which was witnessed by the seven ancient
> >churches of Christ in the order that they were addressed in the
> >Revelation of LORD Jesus Christ.
>
> If you weren't referring to intensity why did you insert that reference
> about it?
So that others can following your attempt to pull this discussion from
**magnitude** to intensity.
> The magnitude of that earthquake was 6 (Richter scale) at
> the surface, at the rupture, at MIT, at Cal Tech, at Emory, because an
> earthquake has one and only one magnitude, as I said.
The report remains that the March 2006 Tokyo earthquake was magnitude
6 (Richter scale) more than 200 miles below the surface. At that
depth, it is not clear that it was a rupture.
> Your assertion
> that it was 9 at the surface is an impossibility on a magnitude scale
> and even you now admit it was not the intensity at the epicenter of the
> earthquake which only you claim was a "great" earthquake.
Magnitude 6 vibrations at more that 200 miles below the surface have
as much kinetic energy as magnitude 9 vibrations at the surface
because of the greater density of material at that depth. This would
be illustrated by someone striking you with a hickory bat (greater
density) as compared to striking you with a bat made of styrofoam
(less density).
Clearly you remain convicted by the Holy Spirit:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
Andrew <><
Fred A Stover
"Doug" <t...@sentex.net> wrote in message
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> On Feb 3, 1:10 am, wonder...@Phreaker.net wrote:
> > Your guy said he will return in the lifetime of his followers. Maybe
> > he get lost?
>
> He said, Matthew 24:34 "Verily I say unto you, This generation shall
> not pass, till all these things be fulfilled."
>
> There is something unique about the generation Jesus belonged to.
> Since Jesus rose from the grave, and remains alive to this day, it
> still exists!
>
> Maybe you have overlooked that?
>
He isn't the one who overlooked anything. Brighter folks learn the meanings
of words and manage to recognize which meaning is being used. In this case
what had been generated there would not pass before all had been fulfilled.
In addition to what is obvious in the English, there is also the fact that
the Author designates three different things generated by using three
different words for generation.
The Author uses "genea," a word used to designate a natural son, to
designate the natural branches generated by Israel (Jacob)(Matt. 24:34). He
uses "genos," a word for adopted son, to designate the church, generated by
adoption: "ye are a chosen generation [genos], a royal priesthood, an holy
nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who
hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light" (1 Peter 2:9).
The Author uses a third word "gennema" to refer to all mankind generated by
Adam.
The significance can be seen where the Author uses two different words
together to explain how mankind generated by Adam can escape the damnation
of hell.
Matthew 23:33-36
Ye serpents, ye generation [gennema-those generated by Adam] of vipers,
how can ye escape the damnation of hell?
[34] Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and
scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall
ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city: [35]
That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the
blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom
ye slew between the temple and the altar. [36] Verily I say unto you, All
these things shall come upon this generation [Jesus generated by
Israel/Jacob].
He bore all our sins on the cross.
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