Prophecies in the Revelation of LORD Jesus Christ
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell" wrote:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:
> > > > neighbor Jack (spam...@spam.heaven) wrote:
> > > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > > >neighbor Jack (spamf...@spam.heaven) wrote:
> > > > > >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >http://TruthRUS.org/Guarantee
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> > The information has been freely given to the public attending
> > > > > >> > Foundation sponsored health fairs:
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > http://TheHealthFair.com
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > A DVD recording of the presentation of this information has
> been
> > > > > >> > freely given to those who have donated charitably to the
> Wellness
> > > > > >> > Foundation:
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > http://TheWellnessFoundation.com
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> So why not give the information freely here?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Already have:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> >
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e4cb7b29f9950011?
> > > > > QUOTE
> > > > >
> > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > > > >
> > > > > There is no book for the 2PD-OMER Approach:
> > > > >
> > > > > http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/overweight.asp
> > > > >
> > > > > The solution is freely downloadable off the Internet:
> > > > >
> > > > > http://HeartMDPhD.com/wtloss.asp
> > > >
> > > > "In 1997, my wife and I watched an IMAX film about climbing
> > > > Mt. Everest and learned that despite their exhausting regimen,
> > > > the climbers consumed only 10 lbs of food per week. That's less
> > > > than 2 lbs of food per day! Since none of the climbers died from
> > > > starvation, my initial thought was that 2 lbs of food per day
> > > > should be more than adequate for us non-climbing folks."
> > > >
> > > > Of course, climbers of Mount Everest are:
> > > >
> > > > -- incredibly fit athletes, who:
> > > >
> > > > -- ate so little, not because it was all they
> > > > would wish, but because:
> > > >
> > > > -- like climbers everywhere, they begrudge
> > > > e v e r y s i n g l e g r a m that
> > > > they have to carry six miles up through
> > > > cold, impossible terrain, and scant
> > > > oxygen, so they:
> > > >
> > > > -- choose the most concentrated possible
> > > > foodstuffs available, meaning that two
> > > > pounds of mountaineer's food is quite
> > > > different from two pounds from your
> > > > local produce section or meat counter,
> > > > and finally that:
> > > >
> > > > -- these dietary restrictions, imposed
> > > > by necessity, were in effect for at
> > > > most weeks at a time.
> > >
> > > Restriction on amount is not a dietary restriction. The story of the
> > > Everest climbers simply served as an inspiration for restricting the
> > > amount
> >
> > All right, that's fair enough.
> >
> > > and for empirically determining that optimal amount for
> > > everyone to eat to lose the visceral adipose tissue (VAT).
> >
> > Given that the climbers' environment, physical status,
> > activities, limited period of restriction, and type of foodstuffs were
> > utterly different from the average person's, in what way could their
> > experiences be used for "empirically determining" anything applicable
> > to everyday life?
>
> FWIW, you are attempting rational discourse with an irrational person.
If that were true, would no longer have an active medical license.
Truth is simple.
> Chung's 2 Pound Diet derives from the voices he hears in his head...
The 2PD-OMER Approach is not a diet.
Again, truth is simple.
> search back in the Google archives and you can find many examples of his delusional
> thinking.
If that were true, you would have provided a link to illustrate.
> Last year, he posted hundreds of warnings about a "global
> earthquake"
Simply advisories about the possibility of a great earthquake
happening right before a total solar eclipse as prophesied in the
Revelation of LORD Jesus Christ.
"There was a great earthquake. The sun turned black like sackcloth
made of goat hair..." (Revelation 6:12)
The great earthquake did occur as a magnitude 6 earthquake under the
most populous city in the world, Tokyo. GOD mercifully made this
earthquake hundreds of miles deep so as not to harm anyone. The total
solar eclipse also did happen both as predicted in Revelation and as
predicted by astronomers, witnessed by each of the seven ancient
churches of Christ in the order these churches are listed in
Revelation.
> and a "nuclear exchange" linked to a solar eclipse that were to
> presage the violent destruction of most of humankind and the second coming
> of Christ.
These remain imminent. Simply behold the ongoing developments in Iran/
Tehran which represents modern day Babylon in its posturing to
threaten the annihilation of Israel.
Simply solve the MYSTERY (anagram) on her forehead:
BABYLON THE GREAT ==> AT TEHRAN BY GLOBE
(Revelation 17:5)
> He also claims to be a "messenger of God", and seems to believe the he will
> play some important role in the end of the world.
GOD's purpose for me here remains to inform...
... simply one watchman among many who are the brethren of LORD Jesus
Christ.
> He also maintains a list on his website of the people who have disagreed
> with him...
Incorrect.
> he claims to have inside knowledge that these people (I'm one of
> them) have been "convicted" by the Holy Spirit.
It remains my choice to receive the guidance of the Holy Spirit in
everything I say, do, and write.
> Bottom line...he's a whacko.
Name-calling simply shows that you remain lost:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/dream.asp
Clearly you remain convicted by the Holy Spirit:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
May you wisely choose to surrender to HIM and receive the salvation of
LORD Jesus Christ:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/TheWay
May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water so that we
can love our neighbors a little more and LORD Jesus Christ a whole lot
more, dear neighbor Gary whom I love unconditionally.
Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit
As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
(Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love
> GG
> >
> >
> > -- cary
> >
> > >
> > > > Not that I am denigrating the benefits for some of
> > > > us, possibly most of us, in lowering our caloric intakes.
> > > > I just point out that you're comparing apples and raccoons.
> > >
> > > What serves as an inspiration would not be subsequently used for
> > > comparison purposes.
> > >
> > > Truth is simple.
> > >
> > > The credit for the 2PD-OMER Approach belongs to GOD, Who is the Source
> > > of all inspiration. knowledge, and wisdom.
> > >
> > > Laus Deo !
> > >
> > > Andrew <><
> > > --
> > > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> > > http://EmoryCardiology.com
> > >
> > > > -- cary
> > >
> >
> >
Cary Kittrell
Oh, I really doubt the Georgia Board drops by frequently to
check if you now think THEY Are Sending Rays Through Your Walls.
>
> Truth is simple.
>
> > Chung's 2 Pound Diet derives from the voices he hears in his head...
>
> The 2PD-OMER Approach is not a diet.
Restricting amount is most certainly a diet; "diet" does not
refer only to restricting type.
I'm on 1200 calories a day myself. 1200 calories of anything
I might care to eat. And that is a diet.
>
> Again, truth is simple.
>
> > search back in the Google archives and you can find many examples of his delusional
> > thinking.
>
> If that were true, you would have provided a link to illustrate.
Why? You shower us with dozens upon dozens of such links each week.
>
> > Last year, he posted hundreds of warnings about a "global
> > earthquake"
>
> Simply advisories about the possibility of a great earthquake
> happening right before a total solar eclipse as prophesied in the
> Revelation of LORD Jesus Christ.
>
> "There was a great earthquake. The sun turned black like sackcloth
> made of goat hair..." (Revelation 6:12)
>
> The great earthquake did occur as a magnitude 6 earthquake under the
> most populous city in the world, Tokyo.
Big deal. Tokyo is on the Pacific ring of fire, and gets 20%
of the world's earthquakes of magnitude 6 or greater.
And magnitude 6 -- which is what that distant earthquake registered --
is hardly a Millennial event on the Pacific ring. For example, here's what
you can expect if you're a Kiwi:
Records dating from the 1840s show that, on average,
New Zealand can expect several magnitude 6 earthquakes
every year, one magnitude 7 every 10 years, and an 8 every
century.
The Beginning of the End of the World ought to be a little
more flashy than just one more damn here-we-go-again event.
> GOD mercifully made this
> earthquake hundreds of miles deep so as not to harm anyone. The total
> solar eclipse also did happen both as predicted in Revelation and as
> predicted by astronomers, witnessed by each of the seven ancient
> churches of Christ in the order these churches are listed in
> Revelation.
>
> > and a "nuclear exchange" linked to a solar eclipse that were to
> > presage the violent destruction of most of humankind and the second coming
> > of Christ.
>
> These remain imminent. Simply behold the ongoing developments in Iran/
> Tehran which represents modern day Babylon in its posturing to
> threaten the annihilation of Israel.
>
> Simply solve the MYSTERY (anagram) on her forehead:
>
> BABYLON THE GREAT ==> AT TEHRAN BY GLOBE
>
> (Revelation 17:5)
Funny, I was under the impression that John wrote in Greek, not
far-in-the-future English.
Of course, if you can do the same thing using the original Greek
characters -- and end up with words conveying the same meaning --
then that's a different story, isn't it?
Here, give it a try:
- cary
Hollis Brown
>
> BABYLON THE GREAT ==> AT TEHRAN BY GLOBE
>
Is there anyone left who believes Mr. Chung is sane?
Anyone?
HB
Cary Kittrell
Hey, what's your problem, bub? You don't think that Revelation
was written in 20th century English or something?
-- cary
Michael Gray
wrote:
- Refer: <1170439169....@s48g2000cws.googlegroups.com>
Mr. Chung is the only one left.
--
Hollis Brown
>
> BABYLON THE GREAT ==> AT TEHRAN BY GLOBE
>
Anagrams are amusing, aren't they?
Andrew B. Chung ==> chew barn dung
Too bad you are male; many possibilities with "wench." (darn bug
wench) (gd urban wench)
Fun for the whole family! (ages 8 to 80)
HB
Sockpuppet Flying Rat Convict #42
lo...@thetruth.com says...
> These remain imminent. Simply behold the ongoing developments in Iran/
> Tehran which represents modern day Babylon in its posturing to
> threaten the annihilation of Israel.
>
> Simply solve the MYSTERY (anagram) on her forehead:
>
> BABYLON THE GREAT ==> AT TEHRAN BY GLOBE
>
> (Revelation 17:5)
>
could you get any more stupid?
This latest k00kout is going to earn you another k00k award. Thinking
the Bible was written in English has to be up there with some of the
saucerheads and kaz00 in its weirdness.
For all you know, in the original language "Babylon the great" could be
an anagram of "Chung is a fucking kook"
FR
--
The Bells of Hell go ting-a-ling-a-ling, for you but not for me.
And the little devils have a sing-a-ling-a-ling, for you but not for me.
Oh death where is they sting-a-ling-a-ling, oh grave thy victory?
The Bells of Hell go ting-a-ling-a-ling, for you but not for me
Cary Kittrell
Obviously it forms a postdiction, not a prediction,
as "Tehran got le baby" expresses perfectly the stunned,
albeit amused, reaction of the diplomatically sophisticated
French on observing the Iranian humiliation the naif
young American President, Jimmy Carter, back in 1979.
-- cary
Cary Kittrell
On second thought, maybe we're supposed to understand
this as a reference to a now-forgotten species of
large, colorful, if flightless, bird: "the long tabby rea"?
-- cary
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, wrote:
>
> > BABYLON THE GREAT ==> AT TEHRAN BY GLOBE
>
> Anagrams are amusing, aren't they?
Not to me.
Clearly Babylon is at Tehran:
Cary Kittrell
> neighbor Hollis Brown wrote:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, wrote:
> >
> > > BABYLON THE GREAT ==> AT TEHRAN BY GLOBE
> >
> > Anagrams are amusing, aren't they?
>
> Not to me.
>
> Clearly Babylon is at Tehran:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/2haluw
Or North Korea. Or India. Or Israel.
Or right here.
-- cary
wond...@phreaker.net
he get lost?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olivet_discourse
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unfulfilled_historical_predictions_by_Christians
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Without the LORD, you will have only doubt and despair.
> >
> > Truth is simple.
> >
> > > Chung's 2 Pound Diet derives from the voices he hears in his head...
> >
> > The 2PD-OMER Approach is not a diet.
>
> Restricting amount is most certainly a diet; "diet" does not
> refer only to restricting type.
Diet refers to what you are eating and not how much.
> I'm on 1200 calories a day myself.
That indicates nothing about your diet.
> 1200 calories of anything
> I might care to eat.
That would be 1200 calories of your usual diet.
> And that is a diet.
After you specified that it was "of anything I might care to eat."
> >
> > Again, truth is simple.
> >
> > > search back in the Google archives and you can find many examples of his delusional
> > > thinking.
>
> >
> > If that were true, you would have provided a link to illustrate.
>
> Why?
Folks tend to provide evidence when it bolsters their case and avoid
things that weaken it.
>You shower us with dozens upon dozens of such links each week.
None bolstering your false witness.
> > > Last year, he posted hundreds of warnings about a "global
> > > earthquake"
> >
> > Simply advisories about the possibility of a great earthquake
> > happening right before a total solar eclipse as prophesied in the
> > Revelation of LORD Jesus Christ.
> >
> > "There was a great earthquake. The sun turned black like sackcloth
> > made of goat hair..." (Revelation 6:12)
> >
> > The great earthquake did occur as a magnitude 6 earthquake under the
> > most populous city in the world, Tokyo.
>
> Big deal. Tokyo is on the Pacific ring of fire, and gets 20%
> of the world's earthquakes of magnitude 6 or greater.
An earthquake that is magnitude 6 at more than 200 miles below the
surface has enough energy for a magnitude 9 earthquake at the surface.
> And magnitude 6 -- which is what that distant earthquake registered --
> is hardly a Millennial event on the Pacific ring. For example, here's what
> you can expect if you're a Kiwi:
>
> Records dating from the 1840s show that, on average,
> New Zealand can expect several magnitude 6 earthquakes
> every year, one magnitude 7 every 10 years, and an 8 every
> century.
>
> The Beginning of the End of the World ought to be a little
> more flashy than just one more damn here-we-go-again event.
Magnitude 6 earthquakes with epicentres more than 200 miles below the
surface especially underneath Tokyo are rare.
> > GOD mercifully made this
> > earthquake hundreds of miles deep so as not to harm anyone. The total
> > solar eclipse also did happen both as predicted in Revelation and as
> > predicted by astronomers, witnessed by each of the seven ancient
> > churches of Christ in the order these churches are listed in
> > Revelation.
> >
> > > and a "nuclear exchange" linked to a solar eclipse that were to
> > > presage the violent destruction of most of humankind and the second coming
> > > of Christ.
> >
> > These remain imminent. Simply behold the ongoing developments in Iran/
> > Tehran which represents modern day Babylon in its posturing to
> > threaten the annihilation of Israel.
> >
> > Simply solve the MYSTERY (anagram) on her forehead:
> >
> > BABYLON THE GREAT ==> AT TEHRAN BY GLOBE
> >
> > (Revelation 17:5)
>
> Funny, I was under the impression that John wrote in Greek, not
> far-in-the-future English.
The Holy Spirit guided not only John's writing of Revelation but has
also guided all subsequent translations of Revelation.
> Of course, if you can do the same thing using the original Greek
> characters -- and end up with words conveying the same meaning --
> then that's a different story, isn't it?
The anagram is specific for this time and this medium that is usenet
and was not meant for John's time during his exile on Patmos.
> Here, give it a try:
βαβυλων η μεγαλη ==> BABYLON THE GREAT ==> AT TEHRAN BY GLOBE
Suggested reading:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tehran
GOD's will be done and not our wills.
Laus Deo !
Marana tha ! !
Clearly you remain convicted by the Holy Spirit:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
Andrew <><
Qadosh Stephanos
<lov...@thetruth.com> wrote:
>The Holy Spirit guided not only John's writing of Revelation but has
>also guided all subsequent translations of Revelation.
You mean like those many italicized and those suggestive additions.
I guess those italicized word phrases were inspired by translators.
John's the Baptist diet was locusts and honey. Is that not enough?
Art Deco
>> > > and for empirically determining that optimal amount for
>> > > everyone to eat to lose the visceral adipose tissue (VAT).
>> >
>> > Given that the climbers' environment, physical status,
>> > activities, limited period of restriction, and type of foodstuffs were
>> > utterly different from the average person's, in what way could their
>> > experiences be used for "empirically determining" anything applicable
>> > to everyday life?
>>
>> FWIW, you are attempting rational discourse with an irrational person.
>
>If that were true, would no longer have an active medical license.
>
>Truth is simple.
>
>> Chung's 2 Pound Diet derives from the voices he hears in his head...
>
>The 2PD-OMER Approach is not a diet.
Correct -- it is a fraud.
>
>Again, truth is simple.
>
>> search back in the Google archives and you can find many examples of his
>> delusional
>> thinking.
>
>If that were true, you would have provided a link to illustrate.
Oh the irony.
>
>> Last year, he posted hundreds of warnings about a "global
>> earthquake"
>
>Simply advisories about the possibility of a great earthquake
>happening right before a total solar eclipse as prophesied in the
>Revelation of LORD Jesus Christ.
>
>"There was a great earthquake. The sun turned black like sackcloth
>made of goat hair..." (Revelation 6:12)
>
>The great earthquake did occur as a magnitude 6 earthquake under the
>most populous city in the world, Tokyo. GOD mercifully made this
>earthquake hundreds of miles deep so as not to harm anyone. The total
>solar eclipse also did happen both as predicted in Revelation and as
>predicted by astronomers, witnessed by each of the seven ancient
>churches of Christ in the order these churches are listed in
>Revelation.
How many total eclipses of the sun have occurred since the first
century, oh great double-doctor?
>
>> and a "nuclear exchange" linked to a solar eclipse that were to
>> presage the violent destruction of most of humankind and the second coming
>> of Christ.
>
>These remain imminent. Simply behold the ongoing developments in Iran/
>Tehran which represents modern day Babylon in its posturing to
>threaten the annihilation of Israel.
>
>Simply solve the MYSTERY (anagram) on her forehead:
>
>BABYLON THE GREAT ==> AT TEHRAN BY GLOBE
>
>(Revelation 17:5)
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
Fancy a round of "Pin the Tail on the Antichrist", Chung?
--
"To err is human, to cover it up is Weasel" -- Dogbert
Art Deco
>> > Given that the climbers' environment, physical status,
>> > activities, limited period of restriction, and type of foodstuffs were
>> > utterly different from the average person's, in what way could their
>> > experiences be used for "empirically determining" anything applicable
>> > to everyday life?
>>
>> FWIW, you are attempting rational discourse with an irrational person.
>
>If that were true, would no longer have an active medical license.
>
>Truth is simple.
>
>> Chung's 2 Pound Diet derives from the voices he hears in his head...
>
>The 2PD-OMER Approach is not a diet.
Correct, it is a fraud with fraudulent claims.
>
>Again, truth is simple.
>
>> search back in the Google archives and you can find many examples of his
>> delusional
>> thinking.
>
>If that were true, you would have provided a link to illustrate.
Oh the irony.
>
>> Last year, he posted hundreds of warnings about a "global
>> earthquake"
>
>Simply advisories about the possibility of a great earthquake
>happening right before a total solar eclipse as prophesied in the
>Revelation of LORD Jesus Christ.
>
>"There was a great earthquake. The sun turned black like sackcloth
>made of goat hair..." (Revelation 6:12)
>
>The great earthquake did occur as a magnitude 6 earthquake under the
>most populous city in the world, Tokyo. GOD mercifully made this
>earthquake hundreds of miles deep so as not to harm anyone. The total
>solar eclipse also did happen both as predicted in Revelation and as
>predicted by astronomers, witnessed by each of the seven ancient
>churches of Christ in the order these churches are listed in
>Revelation.
How many total eclipses of the sun have occurred since the first
century, oh great double-doctor?
>
>> and a "nuclear exchange" linked to a solar eclipse that were to
>> presage the violent destruction of most of humankind and the second coming
>> of Christ.
>
>These remain imminent. Simply behold the ongoing developments in Iran/
>Tehran which represents modern day Babylon in its posturing to
>threaten the annihilation of Israel.
>
>Simply solve the MYSTERY (anagram) on her forehead:
>
>BABYLON THE GREAT ==> AT TEHRAN BY GLOBE
Hahahaahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahaahahahah
>
>(Revelation 17:5)
>
>> He also claims to be a "messenger of God", and seems to believe the he will
>> play some important role in the end of the world.
>
>GOD's purpose for me here remains to inform...
Fancy a round of "Pin the Tail on the Antichrist", Chung?
Art Deco
Art Deco
Or wherever Chung sees fit to pound the square peg into the round hole.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> >The Holy Spirit guided not only John's writing of Revelation but has
> >also guided all subsequent translations of Revelation.
>
> You mean like those many italicized and those suggestive additions.
Either adding to or taking from a written work would not be
translating it.
Truth is simple.
Clearly you remain convicted by the Holy Spirit:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
This would be an observation rather than judgment.
Those of this world automatically judge what the observe.
Because the brethren of LORD Jesus Christ are no longer of this world
just as HE is not of this world, we don't.
Laus Deo ! !
Marana tha ! ! !
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
http://EmoryCardiology.com
> I guess those italicized word phrases were inspired by translators.
Free Lunch
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <and...@emorycardiology.com> wrote in
<1170524831....@m58g2000cwm.googlegroups.com>:
>convicted neighbor Qadosh Stephanos wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>
>> >The Holy Spirit guided not only John's writing of Revelation but has
>> >also guided all subsequent translations of Revelation.
>>
>> You mean like those many italicized and those suggestive additions.
>
>Either adding to or taking from a written work would not be
>translating it.
It is impossible to translate from one language to another without
taking into account the way grammar and idiom work in the two languages.
If you merely substitute words, your translation will be nearly
worthless.
>Truth is simple.
That may be, but your lies are also simple.
>Clearly you remain convicted by the Holy Spirit:
>
>http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
>
>This would be an observation rather than judgment.
>
>Those of this world automatically judge what the observe.
>
>Because the brethren of LORD Jesus Christ are no longer of this world
>just as HE is not of this world, we don't.
>
>Laus Deo ! !
>
>Marana tha ! ! !
>
>Andrew <><
You mock God daily.
Doug
> Your guy said he will return in the lifetime of his followers. Maybe
> he get lost?
He said, Matthew 24:34 "Verily I say unto you, This generation shall
not pass, till all these things be fulfilled."
There is something unique about the generation Jesus belonged to.
Since Jesus rose from the grave, and remains alive to this day, it
still exists!
Maybe you have overlooked that?
Doug
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olivet_discourse
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unfulfilled_historical_predictions_by_Ch...
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> neighbor wonder...@Phreaker.net wrote:
>
> > Your guy said he will return in the lifetime of his followers. Maybe
> > he get lost?
>
> He said, Matthew 24:34 "Verily I say unto you, This generation shall
> not pass, till all these things be fulfilled."
>
> There is something unique about the generation Jesus belonged to.
> Since Jesus rose from the grave, and remains alive to this day, it
> still exists!
>
> Maybe you have overlooked that?
Moreover, LORD Jesus Christ remains in possession of the keys to death
and hell along with all the power and authority in this world.
Therefore, HIS followers, who are HIS brethren, all remain alive in
HIM to this day. We have been given eternal life.
"I am the way, the truth, and the life..." -- LORD Jesus Christ
Amen ! Laus Deo ! ! ! Marana tha ! ! ! ! ! ! !
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
http://EmoryCardiology.com
> Doug
>
> >
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olivet_discourse
> >
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unfulfilled_historical_predictions_by_Ch...
Bible Believer
>On Feb 3, 1:10 am, wonder...@Phreaker.net wrote:
>
>> Your guy said he will return in the lifetime of his followers.
>> Maybe he get lost?
>
>He said, Matthew 24:34 "Verily I say unto you, This generation shall
>not pass, till all these things be fulfilled."
>
>There is something unique about the generation Jesus belonged to.
>Since Jesus rose from the grave, and remains alive to this day, it
>still exists!
>
>Maybe you have overlooked that?
Have you overlooked that you had no valid response?
Jesus said what he said. You try to talk around it.
I don't. And I know He came.
--
The Bible is the inerrant word of the living God!
If you don't believe the Bible, don't tell me that
you are a Christian. I won't believe you. To make
that claim, is to be a heretic who does not know God.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Believer) wrote:
> brother Doug wrote:
> > neighbor wonder...@Phreaker.net wrote:
> >
> >> Your guy said he will return in the lifetime of his followers.
> >> Maybe he get lost?
> >
> >He said, Matthew 24:34 "Verily I say unto you, This generation shall
> >not pass, till all these things be fulfilled."
> >
> >There is something unique about the generation Jesus belonged to.
> >Since Jesus rose from the grave, and remains alive to this day, it
> >still exists!
> >
> >Maybe you have overlooked that?
>
> Have you overlooked that you had no valid response?
> Jesus said what he said. You try to talk around it.
> I don't. And I know He came.
HIS brethren know HE will return:
> > http://groups.google.com/group/alt.christnet.christianlife/msg/d4b59761d9caeef1?
Clearly you remain convicted by the Holy Spirit:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
http://EmoryCardiology.com
Clearly, you remain
Mark K. Bilbo
> If that were true, would no longer have an active medical license.
All that means is the state hasn't *yet caught up with you...
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
------------------------------------------------------------
"You believe in a book that has talking animals, wizards,
witches, demons, sticks turning into snakes, food falling
from the sky, people walking on water, and all sorts of magical,
absurd and primitive stories, and you say that *we* are the
ones that need help?" - Jon Stoll
Art Deco
I can play this game, too:
A BABE LENGTH TROY
A BATHROBE GENTLY
A BABEL TENTH ORGY
A GRABBY TELETHON
A BABY TETHER LONG
ALGEBRA BOY TENTH
BALBOA REGENT THY
BEANBAG THOLE TRY
TABBY RANT EEL HOG
BENEATH GRAY BLOT
BATHE BOAR GENTLY
BALE THAN BY ERGOT
TABLE HEARTY BONG
and about 10,000 others.
Stephen Knight
<ach...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
>HIS brethren know HE will return:
In their lifetime. Read the bible, shithead. It says 'in THEIR
lifetime'. Now... TWO THOUSAND YEARS LATER!!!!!!!!!!....
Duh!
Stop being a god, Dung. You're a judgmental sack of psychotic shit
that thinks he's supernaturally special and you don't miss a beat
telling us you are.
Get some help.
Warlord Steve
BAAWA
Father Haskell
wrote:
> Simply advisories about the possibility of a great earthquake
> happening right before a total solar eclipse as prophesied in the
> Revelation of LORD Jesus Christ.
>
> "There was a great earthquake. The sun turned black like sackcloth
> made of goat hair..." (Revelation 6:12)
Well, now there's a universally understood image.
> The great earthquake did occur as a magnitude 6 earthquake under the
> most populous city in the world, Tokyo. GOD mercifully made this
> earthquake hundreds of miles deep so as not to harm anyone.
Wonder what the useless fucker was doing during Hiroshima and
Nagasaki?
Fred A Stover
"Doug" <t...@sentex.net> wrote in message
news:1170528511.2...@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...
> On Feb 3, 1:10 am, wonder...@Phreaker.net wrote:
> > Your guy said he will return in the lifetime of his followers. Maybe
> > he get lost?
>
> He said, Matthew 24:34 "Verily I say unto you, This generation shall
> not pass, till all these things be fulfilled."
>
> There is something unique about the generation Jesus belonged to.
> Since Jesus rose from the grave, and remains alive to this day, it
> still exists!
>
> Maybe you have overlooked that?
>
He isn't the one who overlooked anything. Brighter folks learn the meanings
of words and manage to recognize which meaning is being used. In this case
what had been generated there would not pass before all had been fulfilled.
In addition to what is obvious in the English, there is also the fact that
the Author designates three different things generated by using three
different words for generation.
The Author uses "genea," a word used to designate a natural son, to
designate the natural branches generated by Israel (Jacob)(Matt. 24:34). He
uses "genos," a word for adopted son, to designate the church, generated by
adoption: "ye are a chosen generation [genos], a royal priesthood, an holy
nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who
hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light" (1 Peter 2:9).
The Author uses a third word "gennema" to refer to all mankind generated by
Adam.
The significance can be seen where the Author uses two different words
together to explain how mankind generated by Adam can escape the damnation
of hell.
Matthew 23:33-36
Ye serpents, ye generation [gennema-those generated by Adam] of vipers,
how can ye escape the damnation of hell?
[34] Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and
scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall
ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city: [35]
That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the
blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom
ye slew between the temple and the altar. [36] Verily I say unto you, All
these things shall come upon this generation [Jesus generated by
Israel/Jacob].
He bore all our sins on the cross.
--
http://www.geocities.com/alphadieg...@sbcglobal.net/
Verily I say unto you, Whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of God as
a little child, he shall not enter therein. (Mark 10:15)
Doug
> "Doug" <t...@sentex.net> wrote in message
>
> news:1170528511.2...@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...
>
> > On Feb 3, 1:10 am, wonder...@Phreaker.net wrote:
> > > Your guy said he will return in the lifetime of his followers. Maybe
> > > he get lost?
>
> > He said, Matthew 24:34 "Verily I say unto you, This generation shall
> > not pass, till all these things be fulfilled."
>
> > There is something unique about the generation Jesus belonged to.
> > Since Jesus rose from the grave, and remains alive to this day, it
> > still exists!
>
> > Maybe you have overlooked that?
>
> He isn't the one who overlooked anything. Brighter folks learn the meanings
> of words and manage to recognize which meaning is being used. In this case
> what had been generated there would not pass before all had been fulfilled.
> In addition to what is obvious in the English, there is also the fact that
> the Author designates three different things generated by using three
> different words for generation.
Well, I certainly was not aware of that! I suppose Jesus was speaking
Greek, then? Or, if he used Aramaic, maybe there are three different
words for "generation" in Aramaic too? I sure don't know. Can you tell
us what they are?
>
> The Author uses "genea," a word used to designate a natural son, to
> designate the natural branches generated by Israel (Jacob)(Matt. 24:34). He
> uses "genos," a word for adopted son, to designate the church, generated by
> adoption: "ye are a chosen generation [genos], a royal priesthood, an holy
> nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who
> hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light" (1 Peter 2:9).
> The Author uses a third word "gennema" to refer to all mankind generated by
> Adam.
>
> The significance can be seen where the Author uses two different words
> together to explain how mankind generated by Adam can escape the damnation
> of hell.
>
> Matthew 23:33-36
> Ye serpents, ye generation [gennema-those generated by Adam] of vipers,
> how can ye escape the damnation of hell?
> [34] Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and
> scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall
> ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city: [35]
> That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the
> blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom
> ye slew between the temple and the altar. [36] Verily I say unto you, All
> these things shall come upon this generation [Jesus generated by
> Israel/Jacob].
>
> He bore all our sins on the cross.
>
Not only ours, but the sins of all men, even the sins of those who
murdered the prophets and righteous men in previous ages.
And, whatever language Jesus was using, his generation remains, as
Jesus rose from the dead and is still alive! His generation is unique,
as I said.
Doug
Mike Painter
> "Doug" <t...@sentex.net> wrote in message
> news:1170528511.2...@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...
>> On Feb 3, 1:10 am, wonder...@Phreaker.net wrote:
>>> Your guy said he will return in the lifetime of his followers. Maybe
>>> he get lost?
>>
>> He said, Matthew 24:34 "Verily I say unto you, This generation shall
>> not pass, till all these things be fulfilled."
>>
>> There is something unique about the generation Jesus belonged to.
>> Since Jesus rose from the grave, and remains alive to this day, it
>> still exists!
>>
>> Maybe you have overlooked that?
>>
>
> He isn't the one who overlooked anything. Brighter folks learn the
> meanings of words and manage to recognize which meaning is being
> used. In this case what had been generated there would not pass
> before all had been fulfilled. In addition to what is obvious in the
> English, there is also the fact that the Author designates three
> different things generated by using three different words for
> generation.
>
immediate end time and the epistles spend both a lot of time with comments
like
1 Cor 7:29 But this I say, brethren, the time is short: it remaineth, that
both they that have wives be as though they had none;
The fact is that the early church believed the words as written and problems
arose as everyone noticed that the generation in question did die.
As with most biblical things the meaning suits the times.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> neighbor Fred A Stover wrote:
> > brother "Doug" <t...@sentex.net> wrote:
> >> neighbor wonder...@Phreaker.net wrote:
>
> >>> Your guy said he will return in the lifetime of his followers. Maybe
> >>> he get lost?
> >>
> >> He said, Matthew 24:34 "Verily I say unto you, This generation shall
> >> not pass, till all these things be fulfilled."
> >>
> >> There is something unique about the generation Jesus belonged to.
> >> Since Jesus rose from the grave, and remains alive to this day, it
> >> still exists!
> >>
> >> Maybe you have overlooked that?
> >
> > He isn't the one who overlooked anything. Brighter folks learn the
> > meanings of words and manage to recognize which meaning is being
> > used. In this case what had been generated there would not pass
> > before all had been fulfilled. In addition to what is obvious in the
> > English, there is also the fact that the Author designates three
> > different things generated by using three different words for
> > generation.
>
> Really? Odd that the history of the church shows so many references to an
> immediate end time and the epistles spend both a lot of time with comments
> like
> 1 Cor 7:29 But this I say, brethren, the time is short: it remaineth, that
> both they that have wives be as though they had none;
The end time is immediate for those who suffer the first death without
salvation from LORD Jesus Christ.
> The fact is that the early church believed the words as written and problems
> arose as everyone noticed that the generation in question did die.
Those who have been saved through their faith in LORD Jesus Christ
remain asleep in HIM though their physical bodies have become
lifeless.
> As with most biblical things the meaning suits the times.
Actually, the truth remains invariant though the flawed understanding
of the truth by those who remain of this world is ever changing to
suit the times.
>From Acts 7:54-60
**** begin Scripture reading****
When they heard this, they were furious and gnashed their teeth at
him. But Stephen, full of the Holy Spirit, looked up to heaven and saw
the glory of GOD, and Jesus standing at the right hand of GOD. "Look,"
he said, "I see heaven open and the Son of Man standing at the right
hand of GOD." At this they covered their ears and, yelling at the top
of their voices, they all rushed at him, dragged him out of the city
and began to stone him. Meanwhile, the witnesses laid their clothes at
the feet of a young man named Saul.
While they were stoning him, Stephen prayed, "LORD Jesus, receive my
spirit." Then he fell on his knees and cried out, "LORD, do not hold
this sin against them." When he had said this, he fell asleep.
**** end Bible reading ****
Amen.
In truth, the brethren of LORD Jesus Christ, have eternal life and
will never die.
"Do not be afraid. I am the First and the Last. I am the Living One;
I was dead, and behold I am alive forever and ever! And I hold the
keys of death and Hades." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Revelation 1:17-18)
Amen ! Laus Deo ! ! ! Marana tha ! ! ! ! ! ! !
Andrew <><
GaryG
news:1170571858.4...@j27g2000cwj.googlegroups.com...
"Useless" implies existence..."imaginary" would be a more appropriate
adjective.
GG
Stephen Knight
<lov...@thetruth.com> wrote:
>The end time is immediate for those who suffer the first death without
>salvation from LORD Jesus Christ.
Who did you kill from bad advice, Chung? It's obvious you're
suffering a psychotic breakdown with all the Pixie belief. That's a
given even from a three year old.
What made you snap? Did you tell someone to drink Acetone? That's
in your Usenet history and you did some pretty good weaseling trying
to avoid the question. Something you're an expert at.
Warlord Steve
BAAWA
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> >The end time is immediate for those who suffer the first death without
> >salvation from LORD Jesus Christ.
>
> Who did you kill from bad advice, Chung?
No one.
> It's obvious you're
> suffering a psychotic breakdown with all the Pixie belief.
It seems you are suffering from delusions of grandeur with the
specific false belief that you are a psychiatrist.
Would suggest you inform your doctor(s) about this delusion. If you
are currently taking psychotropic medications, you will likely need
them to be either changed or increased.
> That's a given even from a three year old.
We don't give three year olds psychotropic medications. You would
have known this had you been a psychiatrist.
> What made you snap?
In my continued walk with Christ Jesus, HE has kept me completely
well.
> Did you tell someone to drink Acetone?
No, I am not an advocate of low-carb dieting which does result in the
internal generation of acetone and other ketone bodies, which all
suppress appetite to a person's detriment.
> That's
> in your Usenet history and you did some pretty good weaseling trying
> to avoid the question.
It remains my choice to continue writing truthfully.
> Something you're an expert at.
That comes from my LORD, Who is the truth.
"I am the way, the truth, and the life..." -- LORD Jesus Christ
Amen ! Laus Deo ! ! ! Marana tha ! ! ! ! ! ! !
Clearly you remain convicted by the Holy Spirit:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
May you wisely choose to surrender to HIM by publicly confessing with
your mouth that "Jesus is LORD:"
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/TheWay
Fred A Stover
"Mike Painter" <mddotp...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:NNpxh.41417$Gr2....@newssvr21.news.prodigy.net...
That's odd. What I found in the early church rapture ezpectations was a few
millennia before His return.
Tertullian (circa 160-225 AD):
"But we do confess that a kingdom is promised to us upon the earth, although
before heaven, only in another state of existence; inasmuch as it will be
after the resurrection for a thousand years in the divinely-built city of
Jerusalem, 'let down from heaven,'"
Justin Martyr (circa 100-165 AD):
"We have perceived, moreover, that the expression, 'The day of the Lord is
as a thousand years,' is connected with this subject. And further, there was
a certain man with us, whose name was John, one of the apostles of Christ,
who prophesied, by a revelation that was made to him, that those who
believed in our Christ would dwell a thousand years in Jerusalem; and that
thereafter the general, and, in short, the eternal resurrection and judgment
of all men would likewise take place. Just as our Lord also said, 'They
shall neither marry nor be given in marriage, but shall be equal to the
angels, the children of the God of the resurrection.'"
Irenaeus (circa 130-202 AD):
"For in as many days as this world was made, in so many thousand years shall
it be concluded. And for this reason the Scripture says: Thus the heaven and
the earth were finished, and all their adornment. And God brought to a
conclusion upon the sixth day the works that He had made; and God rested
upon the seventh day from all His works.' This is an account of the things
formerly created, as also it is a prophecy of what is to come. For the day
of the Lord is as a thousand years; and in six days created things were
completed: it is evident, therefore, that they will come to an end at the
sixth thousand year.
"But when this Antichrist shall have devastated all things in this world, he
will reign for three years and six months, and sit in the temple at
Jerusalem; and then the Lord will come from heaven in the clouds, in the
glory of the Father, sending this man and those who follow him into the lake
of fire; but bringing in for the righteous the times of the kingdom, that
is, the rest, the hallowed seventh day; and restoring to Abraham the
promised inheritance, in which kingdom the Lord declared, that 'many coming
from the east and from the west should sit down with Abraham, Isaac, and
Jacob.'
"The predicted blessing, therefore, belongs unquestionably to the times of
the kingdom, when the righteous shall bear rule upon their rising from the
dead."
Fred A Stover
"Doug" <t...@sentex.net> wrote in message
news:1170597225.5...@k78g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
They are three words rendered "generation" by the translators. The Greek
would reflect the different words used in Aramaic (if He weren't using Greek
words).
Amen!
>
> Doug
>
Mark K. Bilbo
> Patient (Ward B) Chung wrote:
>
>>
>> BABYLON THE GREAT ==> AT TEHRAN BY GLOBE
>>
>
>
> Anagrams are amusing, aren't they?
>
> Andrew B. Chung ==> chew barn dung
<snork>
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
------------------------------------------------------------
"The problem with defending the purity of the English
language is that English is about as pure as a cribhouse
whore. We don't just borrow words; on occasion, English
has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat them
unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary."
- James D. Nicoll
Mark K. Bilbo
Didn't have to be anything he did. Among men, it's not unusual for
schizophrenia to show up around college age. And it can be "masked" by
seeming to be socially acceptable religious devotion (such as how do you
tell which people mean "god speaks to me" metaphorically and which mean
they hear voices?) until it enters full blown woo-woo (technically
speaking).
His age and the events in his life fit pretty well. It wasn't long after
college he was booted from his first job. Then he showed up on Usenet,
actually rather coherent--if a bit loopy--but progressed into full blown
kook in fairly short order.
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
------------------------------------------------------------
"As a result of the war, corporations have been enthroned
and an era of corruption in high places will follow, and
the money power of the country will endeavor to prolong
its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people until
all wealth is aggregated in a few hands and the Republic
is destroyed. I feel at this moment more anxiety than ever
before, even in the midst of war. God grant that my suspicions
may prove groundless." - Abraham Lincoln
Mike Painter
Which shows that there were relatively as many sects of Christianity then as
now.
All your quotes show different opinions about what the bible really means.
"For in as many days as this world was made, in so many thousand years shall
it be concluded. "
Which would mean it would be over now even if you believe in a 6000 year old
erth.
e
"Mike Painter" <mddotp...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:FuUxh.52638$QU1....@newssvr22.news.prodigy.net...
Nope. :-)) Obviously the "end of the world" really means "end of the age".
The men you listed mean well, but they are not God, thus they are fallible.
This IS coming to and end, SOON! Praise God. But the words of MEN
ARE fallible, but the Word of God stands forever and ever and ever!
--
There's no hurry?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrmDWn6awMA
"The best way to drive out the devil, if he will not yield
to texts of Scripture, is to jeer and flout him, for he
cannot bear scorn."
http://bibleweb.info/ftp/ftp-members-0001.html
Born once, die twice. Born twice, die once.
http://john-14-6.com/john-14-6.pdf
My Christian Bible Study Collection - http://Bibleweb.Info/
Fred A Stover
He said He would blot life from the earth in seven days (Gen 7:4).
He said a day is as a thousand years (2 Pet 3:8).
The first day: "of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt
not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely
die" (Gen. 2:17).
The seventh day: "the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in
the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements
shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein
shall be burned up" (2 Pet. 3:10).
We're in the sixth day.
Free Lunch
"Fred A Stover" <freds...@email.com> wrote in
<h_0yh.8041$O02....@newssvr11.news.prodigy.net>:
>"Mike Painter" <mddotp...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>news:FuUxh.52638$QU1....@newssvr22.news.prodigy.net...
...
>> Which shows that there were relatively as many sects of Christianity then as
>> now. All your quotes show different opinions about what the bible really means.
>>
>> "For in as many days as this world was made, in so many thousand years shall
>> it be concluded. "
>>
>> Which would mean it would be over now even if you believe in a 6000 year old
>> erth.
>>
>
>He said He would blot life from the earth in seven days (Gen 7:4).
And, the story tells us that is just what happened.
>He said a day is as a thousand years (2 Pet 3:8).
Peter, actually, and that a thousand years is as a day. Peter is saying
that time is insignificant to God.
>The first day: "of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt
>not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely
>die" (Gen. 2:17).
>
>The seventh day: "the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in
>the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements
>shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein
>shall be burned up" (2 Pet. 3:10).
>
>We're in the sixth day.
You cherry-pick the Bible like few I have ever seen. Why bother?
>
>http://www.geocities.com/alphadieg...@sbcglobal.net/
>
> Verily I say unto you, Whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of God as
>a little child, he shall not enter therein. (Mark 10:15)
God doesn't tell you to act like an idiot, though.
Michelle Malkin
news:h_0yh.8041$O02....@newssvr11.news.prodigy.net...
to enter a place that doesn't exist.
--
^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^
Michelle Malkin (Mickey) aa list#1
BAAWA Knight & Bible Thumper Thumper
^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^
When fascism comes to America, it will be
wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross -
Sinclair Lewis
Mike Painter
teh earth was only 6000 years old.
>
> The first day: "of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou
> shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou
> shalt surely die" (Gen. 2:17).
There is no mention of days in teh second story of creation found in Gen 2.
Days are mentioned in the first story.
1:5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the
evening and the morning were the first day.
>
> The seventh day: "the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the
> night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise,
> and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the
> works that are therein shall be burned up" (2 Pet. 3:10).
>
> We're in the sixth day.
>
>
> http://www.geocities.com/alphadieg...@sbcglobal.net/
>
> Verily I say unto you, Whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of
> God as a little child, he shall not enter therein. (Mark 10:15)
If I was trying to sell this crap, I wouldn't wnt people to think either.
Mistylien
"Fred A Stover" <freds...@email.com> wrote in message
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> news:FuUxh.52638$QU1....@newssvr22.news.prodigy.net...
>> Fred A Stover wrote:
>> > "Mike Painter" <mddotp...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
What Bible are you spot reading from?
That is not what the NIV Bible says nor the KJV.
4 Seven days from now I will send rain on the earth for forty days
and forty nights, and I will wipe from the face of the earth every
living creature I have made." (NIV)
4For yet seven days, and I will cause it to rain upon the earth forty
days and forty nights; and every living substance that I have made will I
destroy from off the face of the earth. (KJV),
>
> He said a day is as a thousand years (2 Pet 3:8).
8But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with
the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
(KJV)
Mistylien
"Free Lunch" <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote in message
news:5e8hs296opphcibou...@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 06 Feb 2007 15:17:33 GMT, in alt.atheism
> "Fred A Stover" <freds...@email.com> wrote in
> <h_0yh.8041$O02....@newssvr11.news.prodigy.net>:
>>"Mike Painter" <mddotp...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>>news:FuUxh.52638$QU1....@newssvr22.news.prodigy.net...
>
> ...
>
>>> Which shows that there were relatively as many sects of Christianity then as
>>> now. All your quotes show different opinions about what the bible really means.
>>>
>>> "For in as many days as this world was made, in so many thousand years shall
>>> it be concluded. "
>>>
>>> Which would mean it would be over now even if you believe in a 6000 year old
>>> erth.
>>>
>>
>>He said He would blot life from the earth in seven days (Gen 7:4).
>
> And, the story tells us that is just what happened.
>
>>He said a day is as a thousand years (2 Pet 3:8).
>
> Peter, actually, and that a thousand years is as a day. Peter is saying
> that time is insignificant to God.
This is what I get from that passage too however.
Adam and Eve did not die the very day they ate from the tree of Knowledge
did they but then they did not live to be a thousand years old either did they?
>
>>The first day: "of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt
>>not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely
>>die" (Gen. 2:17).
>>
>>The seventh day: "the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in
>>the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements
>>shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein
>>shall be burned up" (2 Pet. 3:10).
>>
>>We're in the sixth day.
>
> You cherry-pick the Bible like few I have ever seen. Why bother?
Actually Y2K we started the 7th Day.
>
>>
>>http://www.geocities.com/alphadieg...@sbcglobal.net/
>>
>> Verily I say unto you, Whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of God as
>>a little child, he shall not enter therein. (Mark 10:15)
>
> God doesn't tell you to act like an idiot, though.
I agree again.
M,
Free Lunch
"Mistylien" <yardh...@charter.net> wrote in
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>
>"Free Lunch" <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote in message
>news:5e8hs296opphcibou...@4ax.com...
>> On Tue, 06 Feb 2007 15:17:33 GMT, in alt.atheism
>> "Fred A Stover" <freds...@email.com> wrote in
>> <h_0yh.8041$O02....@newssvr11.news.prodigy.net>:
>>>"Mike Painter" <mddotp...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>>>news:FuUxh.52638$QU1....@newssvr22.news.prodigy.net...
>>
>> ...
>>
>>>> Which shows that there were relatively as many sects of Christianity then as
>>>> now. All your quotes show different opinions about what the bible really means.
>>>>
>>>> "For in as many days as this world was made, in so many thousand years shall
>>>> it be concluded. "
>>>>
>>>> Which would mean it would be over now even if you believe in a 6000 year old
>>>> erth.
>>>>
>>>
>>>He said He would blot life from the earth in seven days (Gen 7:4).
>>
>> And, the story tells us that is just what happened.
>>
>>>He said a day is as a thousand years (2 Pet 3:8).
>>
>> Peter, actually, and that a thousand years is as a day. Peter is saying
>> that time is insignificant to God.
>
>This is what I get from that passage too however.
>Adam and Eve did not die the very day they ate from the tree of Knowledge
>did they but then they did not live to be a thousand years old either did they?
The story claims they got a whole lot closer than the average human
being.
>
>>
>>>The first day: "of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt
>>>not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely
>>>die" (Gen. 2:17).
>>>
>>>The seventh day: "the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in
>>>the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements
>>>shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein
>>>shall be burned up" (2 Pet. 3:10).
>>>
>>>We're in the sixth day.
>>
>> You cherry-pick the Bible like few I have ever seen. Why bother?
>
>Actually Y2K we started the 7th Day.
Except for the fact that the earth was not created 6,000 or 6,000,000
years ago.
Mistylien
> On Wed, 7 Feb 2007 00:23:58 -0600, in alt.atheism
> "Mistylien" <yardh...@charter.net> wrote in
> <3geyh.70$Fl6...@newsfe02.lga>:
>>
>>"Free Lunch" <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote in message
>>news:5e8hs296opphcibou...@4ax.com...
>>> On Tue, 06 Feb 2007 15:17:33 GMT, in alt.atheism
>>>>He said He would blot life from the earth in seven days (Gen 7:4).
>>>
>>> And, the story tells us that is just what happened.
>>>
>>>>He said a day is as a thousand years (2 Pet 3:8).
>>>
>>> Peter, actually, and that a thousand years is as a day. Peter is saying
>>> that time is insignificant to God.
>>
>>This is what I get from that passage too however.
>>Adam and Eve did not die the very day they ate from the tree of Knowledge
>>did they but then they did not live to be a thousand years old either did they?
>
> The story claims they got a whole lot closer than the average human
> being.
Umm Closer to what?
Closer to the thousand years?
or closer to God?
>>
>>>
>>>>The first day: "of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt
>>>>not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely
>>>>die" (Gen. 2:17).
>>>>
>>>>The seventh day: "the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in
>>>>the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements
>>>>shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein
>>>>shall be burned up" (2 Pet. 3:10).
>>>>
>>>>We're in the sixth day.
>>>
>>> You cherry-pick the Bible like few I have ever seen. Why bother?
>>
>>Actually Y2K we started the 7th Day.
>
> Except for the fact that the earth was not created 6,000 or 6,000,000
> years ago.
No the "earth" was created some time before God took it and cause
Creation to be on it.
YEs the Y2k did it seems start about on the 7th day and God rested on
the seventh Day. I bet that "REST" is a whole other tipic and study to
explore.
That is Why The Bible says Now the earth was void and formless. . .
we have now way of Knowing just how much time went by from
"In the beginning God created the Heavens and the earth" to
"now the earth was formless and void" passage.
M,
Free Lunch
"Mistylien" <yardh...@charter.net> wrote in
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>
>"Free Lunch" <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote in message
>news:p9pks210osnhgbdb8...@4ax.com...
>> On Wed, 7 Feb 2007 00:23:58 -0600, in alt.atheism
>> "Mistylien" <yardh...@charter.net> wrote in
>> <3geyh.70$Fl6...@newsfe02.lga>:
>>>
>>>"Free Lunch" <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote in message
>>>news:5e8hs296opphcibou...@4ax.com...
>>>> On Tue, 06 Feb 2007 15:17:33 GMT, in alt.atheism
>snip<
>
>>>>>He said He would blot life from the earth in seven days (Gen 7:4).
>>>>
>>>> And, the story tells us that is just what happened.
>>>>
>>>>>He said a day is as a thousand years (2 Pet 3:8).
>>>>
>>>> Peter, actually, and that a thousand years is as a day. Peter is saying
>>>> that time is insignificant to God.
>>>
>>>This is what I get from that passage too however.
>>>Adam and Eve did not die the very day they ate from the tree of Knowledge
>>>did they but then they did not live to be a thousand years old either did they?
>>
>> The story claims they got a whole lot closer than the average human
>> being.
>
>Umm Closer to what?
>Closer to the thousand years?
Thousand years.
>or closer to God?
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>The first day: "of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt
>>>>>not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely
>>>>>die" (Gen. 2:17).
>>>>>
>>>>>The seventh day: "the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in
>>>>>the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements
>>>>>shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein
>>>>>shall be burned up" (2 Pet. 3:10).
>>>>>
>>>>>We're in the sixth day.
>>>>
>>>> You cherry-pick the Bible like few I have ever seen. Why bother?
>>>
>>>Actually Y2K we started the 7th Day.
>>
>> Except for the fact that the earth was not created 6,000 or 6,000,000
>> years ago.
>
>No the "earth" was created some time before God took it and cause
>Creation to be on it.
Oh.
>YEs the Y2k did it seems start about on the 7th day and God rested on
>the seventh Day. I bet that "REST" is a whole other tipic and study to
>explore.
>That is Why The Bible says Now the earth was void and formless. . .
>
>we have now way of Knowing just how much time went by from
>"In the beginning God created the Heavens and the earth" to
>"now the earth was formless and void" passage.
We have no way of knowing if any of this is true.
Fred A Stover
"Mistylien" <yardh...@charter.net> wrote in message
news:3geyh.70$Fl6...@newsfe02.lga...
Adam died at 930 years in the first millennial day.
>
> >
> >>The first day: "of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou
shalt
> >>not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely
> >>die" (Gen. 2:17).
> >>
> >>The seventh day: "the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night;
in
> >>the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the
elements
> >>shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are
therein
> >>shall be burned up" (2 Pet. 3:10).
> >>
> >>We're in the sixth day.
> >
> > You cherry-pick the Bible like few I have ever seen. Why bother?
>
> Actually Y2K we started the 7th Day.
No, we are in the sixth day. The time of the messiah is "the last days" (Is
2:2) which began with His coming (not His birth) He came the way He was
prophesied to come: "behold, thy King cometh unto thee: he is just, and
having salvation; lowly, and riding upon an ass, and upon a colt the foal of
an ass" (Zech. 9:9), the time He was prophesied to come: "Know therefore and
understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to
build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and
threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall,
even in troublous times" (Dan. 9:25).
Fred A Stover
????? The 7th thousand years is over before the 6th?
> >
> > The first day: "of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou
> > shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou
> > shalt surely die" (Gen. 2:17).
>
> There is no mention of days in teh second story of creation found in Gen
2.
> Days are mentioned in the first story.
> 1:5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And
the
> evening and the morning were the first day.
??????? Perhaps because they're in Gen 1
>
> >
> > The seventh day: "the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the
> > night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise,
> > and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the
> > works that are therein shall be burned up" (2 Pet. 3:10).
> >
> > We're in the sixth day.
> >
> >
> > http://www.geocities.com/alphadieg...@sbcglobal.net/
> >
> > Verily I say unto you, Whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of
> > God as a little child, he shall not enter therein. (Mark 10:15)
>
> If I was trying to sell this crap, I wouldn't wnt people to think either.
>
Sell? It isn't for sale.
--
Fred A Stover
> "Fred A Stover" <freds...@email.com> wrote in
> <h_0yh.8041$O02....@newssvr11.news.prodigy.net>:
> >"Mike Painter" <mddotp...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> >news:FuUxh.52638$QU1....@newssvr22.news.prodigy.net...
>
> ...
>
> >> Which shows that there were relatively as many sects of Christianity
then as
> >> now. All your quotes show different opinions about what the bible
really means.
> >>
> >> "For in as many days as this world was made, in so many thousand years
shall
> >> it be concluded. "
> >>
> >> Which would mean it would be over now even if you believe in a 6000
year old
> >> erth.
> >>
> >
> >He said He would blot life from the earth in seven days (Gen 7:4).
>
> And, the story tells us that is just what happened.
Correction, it tells what will happen.
>
> >He said a day is as a thousand years (2 Pet 3:8).
>
> Peter, actually, and that a thousand years is as a day. Peter is saying
> that time is insignificant to God.
>
So you say. He says a day is as a thousand years, and some of us see what
else He says/
> >The first day: "of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt
> >not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely
> >die" (Gen. 2:17).
> >
> >The seventh day: "the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night;
in
> >the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the
elements
> >shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are
therein
> >shall be burned up" (2 Pet. 3:10).
> >
> >We're in the sixth day.
>
> You cherry-pick the Bible like few I have ever seen. Why bother?
>
You call it cherrypicking, but it's called rightly dividing the word of
truth, there are many examples in the gospels (2 Tim 2:15).
> >
> >http://www.geocities.com/alphadieg...@sbcglobal.net/
> >
> > Verily I say unto you, Whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of God
as
> >a little child, he shall not enter therein. (Mark 10:15)
>
> God doesn't tell you to act like an idiot, though.
No, He reveals which verses go where to reveal what He is saying:
1 Cor. 2:14
But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for
they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are
spiritually discerned.
Mistylien
Ok now I know where you are coming from.
Yes I must agree and old Mathusalh was 969 years to the LD.
When the protective canope was up in the sky people lived a lot
longer then they do/did after the big flood of Noah's day.
>
>>>>
>>>>Actually Y2K we started the 7th Day.
>>>
>>> Except for the fact that the earth was not created 6,000 or 6,000,000
>>> years ago.
>>
>>No the "earth" was created some time before God took it and cause
>>Creation to be on it.
>
> Oh.
>
>>YEs the Y2k did it seems start about on the 7th day and God rested on
>>the seventh Day. I bet that "REST" is a whole other tipic and study to
>>explore.
>>That is Why The Bible says Now the earth was void and formless. . .
>>
>>we have no way of Knowing just how much time went by from
>>"In the beginning God created the Heavens and the earth" to
>>"now the earth was formless and void" passage.
>
> We have no way of knowing if any of this is true.
We can accept it as true because we can not disprove it.
But we can count off the years of Creation if we do the math in the bible
and follow the time line.
That is why I say Y2K year 2,000 was the transitions between the 6,000 years
and the start of the 7,OOO years of "Creation on planet earth.
>
>>M,
M,
Mike Painter
> ??????? Perhaps because they're in Gen 1
They are in Gen one where god created A&E after th animals and not in teh
second story where god created Adam, then the animals, and then because Adam
could not find a helpmeet, Eve.
Two stories from two sources and neither support you opinion.
>>
>>>
>>> The seventh day: "the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the
>>> night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise,
>>> and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and
>>> the works that are therein shall be burned up" (2 Pet. 3:10).
>>>
>>> We're in the sixth day.
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.geocities.com/alphadieg...@sbcglobal.net/
>>>
>>> Verily I say unto you, Whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of
>>> God as a little child, he shall not enter therein. (Mark 10:15)
>>
>> If I was trying to sell this crap, I wouldn't wnt people to think
>> either.
>>
>
> Sell? It isn't for sale.
Evasion noted.
Money does not have to change hands to sell an idea. Vast sums of money roll
in after the sale is made.
Mike Painter
>> YEs the Y2k did it seems start about on the 7th day and God rested
>> on the seventh Day. I bet that "REST" is a whole other tipic and
>> study to explore.
>> That is Why The Bible says Now the earth was void and formless. . .
>>
>> we have now way of Knowing just how much time went by from
>> "In the beginning God created the Heavens and the earth" to
>> "now the earth was formless and void" passage.
>
> We have no way of knowing if any of this is true.
>
from the traditional Hebrew text, which makes much more sense, is:
"When God [ELOHIM] began to create heaven and earth -- the earth being
unformed and void, with darkness over the surface of the deep and a wind
from God [ELOHIM] sweeping over the water -- God [ELOHIM] said, 'Let there
be light'; and there was light."
The story tells us that the ELOHIM found an "unformed and void",
water-covered earth, out of which was formed the whole universe, referred to
as "heaven and earth". How could this be? Only by assuming, as the story
does, that the Sun, Moon and all the stars are tiny lights affixed to the
solid sky dome which is also holding back the "waters above".
The story reflects the primitive cosmography known and held by the ancient
authors."
It, however, does not take a scholar as anyone who can read an untranslated
version agrees with this.
Doug
Those scholars who expressed this opinion missed some information
conveyed by one of the prophecies of Daniel, that indicates the
"primitive cosmography" that they described was introduced into the
Hebrew scriptures in Hellenistic times.
During the reign of Antiochus IV of Syria, the cosmology of the OT was
modified, and adapted to the geocentric views of the Greeks. Many of
the Jews living in that period admired the hellenistic society and its
geocentric cosmology. Antiochus initiated reforms that required
everyone in his realm to become "one people" and conform to the
Hellenistic religion. He initiated the process of revision of the
cosmology of the OT that resulted in its apparent support of the
concept of a rigid sky. It was during this period that the Jerusalem
temple was dedicated to Zeus Olympos.
Also in the Hellenistic period, a Greek translation of the Hebrew
scriptures was produced. The so-called "Letter of Aristeas", which is
thought to have been written abpout 150 BC, tells the story of the
translation. It claims the Hebrew scriptures needed to be "corrected"
and I suggest this refers to the Bible's cosmology, that was changed
to conform to Greek beliefs about a rigid sky which held the stars.
Changes in the story of creation in Genesis 1 identified the "raqia"
or "firmament" made on day 2 with the rigid sky; originally the
"raqia" was the earth's crust that was formed "in the midst of the
waters. This was accomplished by adding "and God called the firmament
Heaven" in Genesis 1:8, and other changes were made to disguise this
one. As a result of the corruptions initiated by Antiochis IV and his
agents, in the traditional text of Genesis 1 the word "firmament"
occurrs 9 times!
Here is a quote from an ancient document called the Letter of
Aristeas, relating the report of Dimetrius to Ptolemy Philadelphus in
Alexandria about the need to include the books of the Old Testament in
the library of the king: "Books of the Law of the Jews, with some few
others, are wanting. For it happens that these books are written in
the Hebrew script and language, but, according to the evidence of the
experts, have been somewhat carelessly committed to writing and are
not in their original form; for they have never had the benefit of
royal attention. It is important that these books, duly corrected,
should find a place in your library..." Note the intent was to
"correct" the Hebrew scriptures in the Greek translation. In fact, it
was the cosmology that was changed, as indicated by Daniel's
prophecy.
Doug
Fred A Stover
Book? Chapter? Verse?
Free Lunch
>"Free Lunch" <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote in message
>news:5e8hs296opphcibou...@4ax.com...
>> On Tue, 06 Feb 2007 15:17:33 GMT, in alt.atheism
>> "Fred A Stover" <freds...@email.com> wrote in
>> <h_0yh.8041$O02....@newssvr11.news.prodigy.net>:
>> >"Mike Painter" <mddotp...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>> >news:FuUxh.52638$QU1....@newssvr22.news.prodigy.net...
>>
>> ...
>>
>> >> Which shows that there were relatively as many sects of Christianity
>then as
>> >> now. All your quotes show different opinions about what the bible
>really means.
>> >>
>> >> "For in as many days as this world was made, in so many thousand years
>shall
>> >> it be concluded. "
>> >>
>> >> Which would mean it would be over now even if you believe in a 6000
>year old
>> >> erth.
>> >>
>> >
>> >He said He would blot life from the earth in seven days (Gen 7:4).
>>
>> And, the story tells us that is just what happened.
>
>Correction, it tells what will happen.
So the fact that this was said immediately before the Flood story
doesn't mean it applies to the Flood story. Give me a break. That is a
level of special pleading that even the least honest self-described
Christians seldom attempt.
>> >He said a day is as a thousand years (2 Pet 3:8).
>>
>> Peter, actually, and that a thousand years is as a day. Peter is saying
>> that time is insignificant to God.
>
>So you say. He says a day is as a thousand years, and some of us see what
>else He says/
Where does God say that a day is as a thousand years?
>> >The first day: "of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt
>> >not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely
>> >die" (Gen. 2:17).
>> >
>> >The seventh day: "the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night;
>in
>> >the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the
>elements
>> >shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are
>therein
>> >shall be burned up" (2 Pet. 3:10).
>> >
>> >We're in the sixth day.
>>
>> You cherry-pick the Bible like few I have ever seen. Why bother?
>
>You call it cherrypicking, but it's called rightly dividing the word of
>truth, there are many examples in the gospels (2 Tim 2:15).
Fine, I'll just call it intentional, dishonest misrepresentation.
>> >http://www.geocities.com/alphadieg...@sbcglobal.net/
>> >
>> > Verily I say unto you, Whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of God
>as
>> >a little child, he shall not enter therein. (Mark 10:15)
>>
>> God doesn't tell you to act like an idiot, though.
>
>No, He reveals which verses go where to reveal what He is saying:
>1 Cor. 2:14
> But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for
>they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are
>spiritually discerned.
I read what the Bible says, but I cannot possibly accept your claims
about it. They are absurd.
Free Lunch
Reality. I don't use the Bible to make claims about science. No sane
person does.
Mike Painter
No argument with any of that, the main point is that like most creations
stories, a god formed life from existing material. The concept of something
out of nothing came later.
duke
>Your guy said he will return in the lifetime of his followers. Maybe
>he get lost?
He did - 3 days later.
duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
Fred A Stover
> Fred A Stover wrote:
> > ??????? Perhaps because they're in Gen 1
>
> They are in Gen one where god created A&E after th animals and not in teh
> second story where god created Adam, then the animals, and then because
Adam
> could not find a helpmeet, Eve.
> Two stories from two sources and neither support you opinion.
??????????? The order of creation is recorded in Gen 1, and Gen 2 does
confirm He is the creator. Are you reading two different creations into the
text? It will continue to confuse you.
> >>>
> >>> The seventh day: "the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the
> >>> night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise,
> >>> and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and
> >>> the works that are therein shall be burned up" (2 Pet. 3:10).
> >>>
> >>> We're in the sixth day.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> http://www.geocities.com/alphadieg...@sbcglobal.net/
> >>>
> >>> Verily I say unto you, Whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of
> >>> God as a little child, he shall not enter therein. (Mark 10:15)
> >>
> >> If I was trying to sell this crap, I wouldn't wnt people to think
> >> either.
> >>
> >
> > Sell? It isn't for sale.
> Evasion noted.
> Money does not have to change hands to sell an idea. Vast sums of money
roll
> in after the sale is made.
Like I said, it is not for sale, and it is not a diversion. The the entrance
is closed, the fulness of the gentiles has entered.
--
Mistylien
> On Fri, 09 Feb 2007 00:02:11 GMT, in alt.atheism
> "Fred A Stover" <freds...@email.com> wrote in
> <7SOyh.19776$zH1....@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net>:
>>"Free Lunch" <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote in message
snip<
>>>
>>
>>Book? Chapter? Verse?
>
> Reality. I don't use the Bible to make claims about science. No sane
> person does.
BCV Book Chapter and Verse does not necessarily mean only the Bible
You know. How scientific is you thinking then there??
>
Mistylien
"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message news:quhps21c9eroa81ph...@4ax.com...
> On 2 Feb 2007 22:10:51 -0800, wond...@Phreaker.net wrote:
>
>>Your guy said he will return in the lifetime of his followers. Maybe
>>he get lost?
>
> He did - 3 days later.
Yes and those that knew Him did not recognize him just as we today may
not recognize his voice when He does speak to us even through His
Written Word.
M,
Free Lunch
"Mistylien" <yardh...@charter.net> wrote in
<zB9zh.96$CP...@newsfe06.lga>:
Really? Can you point to any scientific journals that have verses?
The evidence about the age of the earth is overwhelming. Those who deny
it do so only because of their religious prejudices.
Free Lunch
"Mistylien" <yardh...@charter.net> wrote in
<GI9zh.97$CP...@newsfe06.lga>:
>
>"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message news:quhps21c9eroa81ph...@4ax.com...
>> On 2 Feb 2007 22:10:51 -0800, wond...@Phreaker.net wrote:
>>
>>>Your guy said he will return in the lifetime of his followers. Maybe
>>>he get lost?
>>
>> He did - 3 days later.
>
>Yes and those that knew Him did not recognize him just as we today may
>not recognize his voice when He does speak to us even through His
>Written Word.
No one claims that Jesus or God wrote anything in the Bible.
Mike Painter
> "Mike Painter" <mddotp...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:K7Jyh.2508$o61....@newssvr19.news.prodigy.net...
>> Fred A Stover wrote:
>> > ??????? Perhaps because they're in Gen 1
>>
>> They are in Gen one where god created A&E after th animals and not
>> in teh second story where god created Adam, then the animals, and
>> then because Adam could not find a helpmeet, Eve.
>> Two stories from two sources and neither support you opinion.
>
> ??????????? The order of creation is recorded in Gen 1, and Gen 2 does
> confirm He is the creator. Are you reading two different creations
> into the text? It will continue to confuse you.
So animals then Adam and Eve is exactly the same as Adam, animals and then
Eve?
<snip>
>>>>> Verily I say unto you, Whosoever shall not receive the kingdom
>>>>> of God as a little child, he shall not enter therein. (Mark
>>>>> 10:15)
>>>>
>>>> If I was trying to sell this crap, I wouldn't wnt people to think
>>>> either.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Sell? It isn't for sale.
>> Evasion noted.
>> Money does not have to change hands to sell an idea. Vast sums of
>> money roll in after the sale is made.
>
> Like I said, it is not for sale, and it is not a diversion. The the
> entrance is closed, the fulness of the gentiles has entered.
And Tuesday is Red's Tamale day.
Mike Painter
Because the bible is about the only book that uses this scheme. There has
been a move for a long time to do this in law but this would put a few
publishers out of business.
If you are aware of any science books that use this method, please let us
know.
Mistylien
> On Fri, 9 Feb 2007 19:52:58 -0600, in alt.atheism
> "Mistylien" <yardh...@charter.net> wrote in
> <zB9zh.96$CP...@newsfe06.lga>:
>>
>>"Free Lunch" <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote in message
>>news:1uins2ldmpr0l3ejc...@4ax.com...
>>snip<
>>
>>
>>>>Book? Chapter? Verse?
>>>
>>> Reality. I don't use the Bible to make claims about science. No sane
>>> person does.
>>
>>BCV Book Chapter and Verse does not necessarily mean only the Bible
>>You know. How scientific is you thinking then there??
>
> Really? Can you point to any scientific journals that have verses?
Verses also mean sentences even though they may not be numbered. Duh!
>
> The evidence about the age of the earth is overwhelming. Those who deny
> it do so only because of their religious prejudices.
I have no "religion". but I question the proposed scientific age time they
impose upon us with out qualifying how they reached that assumption
of earth age and universe times.
It really looks like they just think now one will question them, but I do
Every time they voice a age number it looks like an open throat lie.
Mistylien
All books written by good journalist use
Book title,
Chapters
and sentences,
Just because they are not nimbered does not meat they are not
verses or lines on the page if you will.
>
>
Mike Painter
>
> All books written by good journalist use
> Book title,
> Chapters
> and sentences,
> Just because they are not nimbered does not meat they are not
> verses or lines on the page if you will.
I see, so you have no problem with Book 1 Chapter two, line 55.
You find this a valid way to reference things and having to count 55 lines
is no problem for you.
You would consider this sufficient to find the information?
Be sure to think about this a bit before answering because with singular
exceptions it is false. I'll give you a hint. Consider the line below.
This is a line of text. and while there is little information in it it is
still a line of text.
Starting with "All books written by good journalist use" as line one tell me
what line is that on?
You may assume that there is only one blank line between paragraphs,
something not generally true.
Mistylien
identify what is said where in the book.
M,
Mistylien
No one has to make that claim.
The Bible is the "inspired" word of God.
so it becomes "God's " written word.
God son Jesus is the "living" word of the Living creator God.
All other gods are "created" by god and used as gods by man
or man themselves create their own gods.
M,
John Baker
You aren't the sharpest pencil in the box, are ya, Snookums?
>
>M,
>
Mistylien
> Mistylien wrote:
> >
>> All books written by good journalist use
>> Book title,
>> Chapters
>> and sentences,
>> Just because they are not nimbered does not meat they are not
>> verses or lines on the page if you will.
>
> I see, so you have no problem with Book 1 Chapter two, line 55.
> You find this a valid way to reference things and having to count 55 lines is no problem for
> you.
>
> You would consider this sufficient to find the information?
You can not pigion hole me that easy.
If you what some one to look at the information you are trying to
profess then you give good directions to where you are quoting it
form, not evading the question.
>
> Be sure to think about this a bit before answering because with singular exceptions it is
> false. I'll give you a hint. Consider the line below.
Im not interested in playing your mind games thank you.
Just Grow up!
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> brother "Mistylien" <yardh...@charter.net> wrote:
> >brother "duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
> >> neighbor wond...@Phreaker.net wrote:
> >>
> >>>Your guy said he will return in the lifetime of his followers. Maybe
> >>>he get lost?
> >>
> >> He did - 3 days later.
> >
> >Yes and those that knew Him did not recognize him just as we today may
> >not recognize his voice when He does speak to us even through His
> >Written Word.
Those in the Holy Spirit will recognize HIM.
> No one claims that Jesus or God wrote anything in the Bible.
LORD Jesus Christ is GOD.
In the Holy Spirit, I know that the ten commandments in the Bible were
written by GOD.
There are similarly other parts of the Bible that have been written by
LORD Almighty GOD, Creator of heaven and earth, and Author of all
reality.
Others who are guided by the Holy Spirit will be able to contribute
along this vein if they choose.
Clearly you remains convicted by HIM:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
May you wisely choose to surrender to HIM by publicly confessing with
your mouth that "Jesus is LORD:"
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/TheWay
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
http://EmoryCardiology.com
Qadosh Stephanos
<lov...@thetruth.com> wrote:
>Convicted neighbor Free Lunch wrote:
>> brother "Mistylien" <yardh...@charter.net> wrote:
>> >brother "duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>> >> neighbor wond...@Phreaker.net wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>Your guy said he will return in the lifetime of his followers. Maybe
>> >>>he get lost?
>> >>
>> >> He did - 3 days later.
>> >
>> >Yes and those that knew Him did not recognize him just as we today may
>> >not recognize his voice when He does speak to us even through His
>> >Written Word.
>
>Those in the Holy Spirit will recognize HIM.
Seek something of flesh. That is the same problem of the Pharisees.
HIM is the people of the Kingdom of God that have HE on the inside.
But you seek to elevate your own self, and lower anybody above you.
>> No one claims that Jesus or God wrote anything in the Bible.
>
>LORD Jesus Christ is GOD.
The people of Paul make their flesh into their idol's of God.
The Messiah is and was the manifestation of God in the flesh.
Don't look up. Look inside. Crosses and idols are not of God.
>In the Holy Spirit, I know that the ten commandments in the Bible were
>written by GOD.
Those Ten commandments were written by the very finger of God.
They aren't written in a book. They are written in the tables.
The books only says what book worshippers want you to believe.
>There are similarly other parts of the Bible that have been written by
>LORD Almighty GOD, Creator of heaven and earth, and Author of all
>reality.
Jude 1:14 (ASV)
And to these also Enoch, the seventh from Adam, prophesied, saying,
Behold, the Lord came with ten thousands of his holy ones,
So, do tell me where is the words of Enoch in your 1611 Bible book?
Free Lunch
"Mistylien" <yardh...@charter.net> wrote in
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>
>"Free Lunch" <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote in message
>news:24aqs2lepl6vj6auc...@4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 9 Feb 2007 19:52:58 -0600, in alt.atheism
>> "Mistylien" <yardh...@charter.net> wrote in
>> <zB9zh.96$CP...@newsfe06.lga>:
>>>
>>>"Free Lunch" <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote in message
>>>news:1uins2ldmpr0l3ejc...@4ax.com...
>
>>>snip<
>>>
>>>
>
>>>>>Book? Chapter? Verse?
>>>>
>>>> Reality. I don't use the Bible to make claims about science. No sane
>>>> person does.
>>>
>>>BCV Book Chapter and Verse does not necessarily mean only the Bible
>>>You know. How scientific is you thinking then there??
>>
>> Really? Can you point to any scientific journals that have verses?
>
>Verses also mean sentences even though they may not be numbered. Duh!
Sure. Your English teacher must be crying right about now. Could you
show me a reference to that use in the past century that would show that
it actually would be applied to a journal article? I know what a verse
is in a religious text (and that isn't a sentence). I know what a verse
is in a poem (and that isn't a sentence). Could you provide examples of
people using it to mean "sentence". I'm not looking for idiom, that is,
I'm not looking for "she gave me a dressing down, chapter and verse".
That wouldn't necessarily apply to a religious text, but it certainly
doesn't apply to a journal article.
>> The evidence about the age of the earth is overwhelming. Those who deny
>> it do so only because of their religious prejudices.
>
>I have no "religion". but I question the proposed scientific age time they
>impose upon us with out qualifying how they reached that assumption
>of earth age and universe times.
It wasn't an assumption and the people who claim it is are generally
either badly educated in science, have religious doctrines that they
want to substitute for science or both. You must be an American, because
I don't know of any other people who have managed to get past K-12 or
equivalent without understanding how science works. Americans, on the
other hand, manage to get into college without a clue about science,
even when they aren't homeschooled.
>It really looks like they just think now one will question them, but I do
>
>Every time they voice a age number it looks like an open throat lie.
Your total ignorance of science is noted. I'd say you were defaming
scientists, but that would erroneously imply that you have a clue about
science.
Free Lunch
"Mistylien" <yardh...@charter.net> wrote in
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>
>"Mike Painter" <mddotp...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>news:QLczh.5398$o61....@newssvr19.news.prodigy.net...
>> Mistylien wrote:
>> >
>>> All books written by good journalist use
>>> Book title,
>>> Chapters
>>> and sentences,
>>> Just because they are not nimbered does not meat they are not
>>> verses or lines on the page if you will.
>>
>> I see, so you have no problem with Book 1 Chapter two, line 55.
>> You find this a valid way to reference things and having to count 55 lines is no problem for
>> you.
>>
>> You would consider this sufficient to find the information?
>
>You can not pigion hole me that easy.
You made the stupid claim.
>If you what some one to look at the information you are trying to
>profess then you give good directions to where you are quoting it
>form, not evading the question.
It is clear that you have never seen a journal citation. Yes, there is a
proper form (well, there are a few competing proper forms, depending on
the discipline, but they are all very similar). I have never heard
anyone refer to them as book, chapter and verse.
The particular fact under discussion, that the earth is about 4.55
billion years old, is one that has been confirmed by a number of
different scientific experiments.
The USGS has an older page called Geologic Time
<http://pubs.usgs.gov/gip/geotime/> that is fairly accessible.
The Wikipedia also has an article
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_the_Earth>
You will note that there is not absolute agreement on the age because
the scientific evidence is imperfect from that time.
It is not like Young Earth Creationists fighting over their perception
of the date of creation, whether Ussher was accurate or not.
>> Be sure to think about this a bit before answering because with singular exceptions it is
>> false. I'll give you a hint. Consider the line below.
>
>Im not interested in playing your mind games thank you.
>
>Just Grow up!
>
You dismiss science without understanding it at all and you have the
arrogance to tell others to grow up?
The universe is not all about you.
Free Lunch
"Mistylien" <yardh...@charter.net> wrote in
<NJdzh.181$B92...@newsfe02.lga>:
article, will you?
Words have different meanings. Don't play Humpty Dumpty, it makes you
look dishonest.
--
"... There's glory for you."
"I don't know what you mean by 'glory,'" Alice said.
Humpty Dumpty smiles contemptuously. "Of course you don't--till
I tell you. I meant 'there's a nice knock-down argument for you!'"
"But glory doesn't mean "a nice knock-down argument," Alice objected.
"When I use a word," Humpty Dumpty said, in a rather scornful tone,
"it means just what I choose it to mean--neither more nor less."
"The question is," said Alice "whether you can make words mean so
many different things."
"The question is," said Humpty Dumpty, "which is to be master--that's
all."
Free Lunch
"Mistylien" <yardh...@charter.net> wrote in
<CNdzh.182$B92...@newsfe02.lga>:
>
>"Free Lunch" <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote in message
>news:v6aqs2tfsbvr5ln0s...@4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 9 Feb 2007 20:00:32 -0600, in alt.atheism
>> "Mistylien" <yardh...@charter.net> wrote in
>> <GI9zh.97$CP...@newsfe06.lga>:
>>>
>>>"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
>>>news:quhps21c9eroa81ph...@4ax.com...
>>>> On 2 Feb 2007 22:10:51 -0800, wond...@Phreaker.net wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Your guy said he will return in the lifetime of his followers. Maybe
>>>>>he get lost?
>>>>
>>>> He did - 3 days later.
>>>
>>>Yes and those that knew Him did not recognize him just as we today may
>>>not recognize his voice when He does speak to us even through His
>>>Written Word.
>>
>> No one claims that Jesus or God wrote anything in the Bible.
>
>No one has to make that claim.
>
>The Bible is the "inspired" word of God.
There is no evidence that this claim is correct. It is a claim based on
faith alone.
>so it becomes "God's " written word.
That would depend on what inspiration means and whether the writing
really is what God wanted. Other religious texts also claim to be of
God. The Koran was dictated to Mohammed by God. The Book of Mormon was
translated by Joseph Smith with the help of an angel. Both of those have
every bit as much evidence to support them as your claim does.
>God son Jesus is the "living" word of the Living creator God.
Is He? Where? There is no evidence to support that claim.
>All other gods are "created" by god and used as gods by man
>or man themselves create their own gods.
You make that claim but you have no way to show it. Other religions
reject your doctrines as false. They claim that you worship three gods
or that the god you teach about is falsely depicted in some other way.
You cannot show that your religion is not man-made.
Free Lunch
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com> wrote in
<1171095780....@q2g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>:
>Convicted neighbor Free Lunch wrote:
>> brother "Mistylien" <yardh...@charter.net> wrote:
>> >brother "duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>> >> neighbor wond...@Phreaker.net wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>Your guy said he will return in the lifetime of his followers. Maybe
>> >>>he get lost?
>> >>
>> >> He did - 3 days later.
>> >
>> >Yes and those that knew Him did not recognize him just as we today may
>> >not recognize his voice when He does speak to us even through His
>> >Written Word.
>
>Those in the Holy Spirit will recognize HIM.
>
>> No one claims that Jesus or God wrote anything in the Bible.
>
>LORD Jesus Christ is GOD.
>
>In the Holy Spirit, I know that the ten commandments in the Bible were
>written by GOD.
So why do you ignore all of the other commandments in the Bible?
>There are similarly other parts of the Bible that have been written by
>LORD Almighty GOD, Creator of heaven and earth, and Author of all
>reality.
Do you accept the reality that the universe is ancient? That life on
earth shares a common ancestor?
>Others who are guided by the Holy Spirit will be able to contribute
>along this vein if they choose.
>
>Clearly you remains convicted by HIM:
>
>http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
>
>May you wisely choose to surrender to HIM by publicly confessing with
>your mouth that "Jesus is LORD:"
>
>http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/TheWay
>
>Andrew <><
Cardiology deleted because I'm not a rude poseur.
John Baker
wrote:
Not when I went to school, they didn't. But then, back when I went to
school, we didn't have fundy morons constantly assaulting our
educational system demanding that their religious beliefs be
substituted for science.
Mike Painter
Clearly you've not read much.
Please tell me where these are located in my copy of "Cannery Row", or
"They have a name for it" ?
I once had an instructor who believed open book tests were a necesssity
because knowing where to look was more important than knowing. For a fast
reader who knew how to use a Table of contents and an Index, this pretty
much meant a B with little study. But he always had these killer matching
questions and unless you studied you did not get an A because those answers
were not in those "chapters and lines or page numbers in them to identify
what is said where in the book."
Odd, my dictionary is a book and does not have "chapters and lines or page
Mike Painter
> "Mike Painter" <mddotp...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:QLczh.5398$o61....@newssvr19.news.prodigy.net...
>> Mistylien wrote:
>>>
>>> All books written by good journalist use
>>> Book title,
>>> Chapters
>>> and sentences,
>>> Just because they are not nimbered does not meat they are not
>>> verses or lines on the page if you will.
>>
>> I see, so you have no problem with Book 1 Chapter two, line 55.
>> You find this a valid way to reference things and having to count 55
>> lines is no problem for you.
>>
>> You would consider this sufficient to find the information?
>
> You can not pigion hole me that easy.
>
> If you what some one to look at the information you are trying to
> profess then you give good directions to where you are quoting it
> form, not evading the question.
I guess that has menaing to you, but what does it have to do with your claim
that Giving book, chapter, and verse or line is sufficent in all books?
>
>
>>
>> Be sure to think about this a bit before answering because with
>> singular exceptions it is false. I'll give you a hint. Consider the
>> line below.
>
> Im not interested in playing your mind games thank you.
>
> Just Grow up!
It's not a mind game but does require you to think.
Apparently you don't want to do that.
Unless the verses are agreed upon in advance your claim will ONLY work in
books with a single printing.
Line five in your book may be line ten in some other book. It depends on the
layout of the text, the size of the print, and the size of the book.
Your inane comment will not work unless the verse has a specific, agreed
upon in advance, content.
Mike Painter
>
> Not when I went to school, they didn't. But then, back when I went to
> school, we didn't have fundy morons constantly assaulting our
> educational system demanding that their religious beliefs be
> substituted for science.
You must be *far* older than my 66 because when I went to school, even a
very good one, science classes were taught, but the core concepts of science
were not.
I would start everybody's science education off with a semester that taught
what a theory was.
In many, if not most American schools, it would have to be done on line
because then as now the PE teacher gets "stuck" with those classes.
It would also mandate written work that required proper grammar.
In the early 80's the government tried to mandate that teachers know as much
as their students in the subjects they did not teach. After all they had
been saying this was important, right?
The teachers and the unions soon got rid of that notion
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
>
> I totally agree with the substance of what you say, as well as the
> tone. People shouldn't have to spend time filtering, etc. from users
> of the forum that are little more than abusers.
Such is the right of freedom of speech. There is a cost that everyone
pays.
> The "good" doctor is
> obviously primarily interested in his own self promotion, rather than
> helping people;
It remains my choice to continue to die to self thereby becoming a new
creature in HIM daily. Where there is no self, there can be no self
promotion. All the glory of the good works HE has me do belongs to my
LORD Almighty GOD.
> you can tell this by his posting here of copies of
> replies to messages posted elsewhere, and providing scant information
> in his replies.
The information that GOD has me provide is infinitely more than you
can ever provide.
"With man this is impossible, but with GOD all things are possible."
-- LORD Jesus Christ (Matthew 19:26)
Amen ! Laus Deo ! ! ! Marana tha ! ! ! ! ! ! !
> Several of us have complained to the Georgia Medical
> Board about his behavior.
Obviously your complaints have fallen on the ears of other born-again
Christians who are now praising LORD Almighty GOD for HIS victory over
atheists like you.
Laus Deo ! ! !
"Well done MY faithful servant." -- Holy Spirit
Amen.
Clearly you remain convicted by the Holy Spirit:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
May you wisely choose to surrender to HIM by publicly confessing with
your mouth that "Jesus is LORD:"
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/TheWay
Andrew <><
e
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <ach...@emorycardiology.com> wrote in message news:1171140069....@v45g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
> convicted neighbor Tdub wrote:
>>
>> I totally agree with the substance of what you say, as well as the
>> tone. People shouldn't have to spend time filtering, etc. from users
>> of the forum that are little more than abusers.
>
> Such is the right of freedom of speech. There is a cost that everyone
> pays.
>
>> The "good" doctor is
>> obviously primarily interested in his own self promotion, rather than
>> helping people;
>
> It remains my choice to continue to die to self thereby becoming a new
> creature in HIM daily. Where there is no self, there can be no self
> promotion. All the glory of the good works HE has me do belongs to my
> LORD Almighty GOD.
There are two states for a person,
either you have eternal live, or you are perishing!
The Facts About Jesus, the Bible & the Afterlife
http://bibleweb.info/ftp/ftp-members-0004.html
Pastor Kutchie
<snip>
Will you stop posting to sci.med.cardiology, please?
e
"Pastor Kutchie" <use...@heathens.org.uk> wrote in message news:1171141539....@a34g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> On Feb 10, 8:58 pm, "e" <0@j...@14-6.info> wrote:#
> <snip>
> Will you stop posting to sci.med.cardiology, please?
Will you atheists stop posting in Christian news groups, please?
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > convicted neighbor Tdub wrote:
> >>
> >> I totally agree with the substance of what you say, as well as the
> >> tone. People shouldn't have to spend time filtering, etc. from users
> >> of the forum that are little more than abusers.
> >
> > Such is the right of freedom of speech. There is a cost that everyone
> > pays.
> >
> >> The "good" doctor is
> >> obviously primarily interested in his own self promotion, rather than
> >> helping people;
> >
> > It remains my choice to continue to die to self thereby becoming a new
> > creature in HIM daily. Where there is no self, there can be no self
> > promotion. All the glory of the good works HE has me do belongs to my
> > LORD Almighty GOD.
>
> There are two states for a person,
> either you have eternal live, or you are perishing!
"With man this is impossible, but with GOD all things are possible."
-- LORD Jesus Christ (Matthew 19:26)
Amen ! Laus Deo ! ! ! Marana tha ! ! ! ! ! ! !
Andrew <><
I KILLED YOUR GOD---IT WAS FUN!
"e" <0@john@14-6.info> wrote in message
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you are damaged goods.chunks is goin down.
you keep your dog where it belongs-and we will leave.
Pastor Kutchie
> "Pastor Kutchie" <use...@heathens.org.uk> wrote in messagenews:1171141539....@a34g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> > On Feb 10, 8:58 pm, "e" <0@j...@14-6.info> wrote:#
> > <snip>
> > Will you stop posting to sci.med.cardiology, please?
>
> Will you atheists stop posting in Christian news groups, please?
Not until Chung FOADs.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
>
> Why do you continually come into this group and push your beliefs on
> people who monitor and read here.
GOD's purpose for me here remains to inform and not to either convince
or convert.
> You are not following the scriptures
> by being arrogant and pushy.
Without GOD, Scriptures are simply ink on paper.
> Please humble yourself and stop posting
> your philosophy and beliefs here.
Doing your will instead of GOD's will is not humbling oneself.
> Please!
It remains my choice to continue my ever closer walk with Christ
Jesus, Whom I love with all my heart, soul, mind, and strength:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/fear.asp
Fear GOD and dread nothing that is of this world:
http://TruthRUS.org/DreadNought
This victory belongs to LORD Almighty GOD.
Laus Deo ! ! !
May you wisely choose to surrender to HIM by publicly confessing with
your mouth that "Jesus is LORD:"
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Theway
May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water so that we
can love our neighbors a little more and LORD Jesus Christ a whole lot
more, dear neighbor "Zap" whom I love unconditionally.
Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit
As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
(Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love
I KILLED YOUR GOD---IT WAS FUN!
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <and...@emorycardiology.com> wrote in message
news:1171144449.7...@h3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
STUPID FUCKING IN YOUR FACE LOONY TOON CHARACTER.
John Baker
<mddotp...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>John Baker wrote:
>> On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 14:50:16 GMT, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us>
>> wrote:
><snip>
>>
>> Not when I went to school, they didn't. But then, back when I went to
>> school, we didn't have fundy morons constantly assaulting our
>> educational system demanding that their religious beliefs be
>> substituted for science.
>
>You must be *far* older than my 66 because when I went to school, even a
>very good one, science classes were taught, but the core concepts of science
>were not.
>I would start everybody's science education off with a semester that taught
>what a theory was.
>In many, if not most American schools, it would have to be done on line
>because then as now the PE teacher gets "stuck" with those classes.
Yes, I had the usual PE teacher-as-science-teacher in my sophomore
year biology I, but I got lucky. I had one who was actually interested
in the subject. And the guy who taught biology II in my junior year
was an actual bona fide science teacher who honestly knew his stuff.
Incidentally, if I were in charge of public education, the gym coach
doing double duty as a "science teacher" would be one of the first
things I'd do away with.
Al Klein
wrote:
>On 10 Feb 2007 00:23:00 -0800, in alt.atheism
>"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com> wrote in
>>LORD Jesus Christ is GOD.
Of course that would be ignoring the part of his holy word that has
him saying that he isn't.
>>In the Holy Spirit, I know that the ten commandments in the Bible were
>>written by GOD.
>So why do you ignore all of the other commandments in the Bible?
Because True Christianity is doing whatever you want, then finding (or
making up, called "interpretation) justification for it in the Bible.
And Andy is a Very True Christian.
Bible Believer
<yardh...@charter.net> claimed:
>>>Book? Chapter? Verse?
>>
>> Reality. I don't use the Bible to make claims about science. No sane
>> person does.
>
>BCV Book Chapter and Verse does not necessarily mean only the Bible
>You know. How scientific is you thinking then there??
Really? So what do you propose that the Bible
is made up of? Seriously.
--
Hope is for those who do not live in grace.
The Bible is the inerrant word of the living God!
If you don't believe the Bible, don't tell me that
you are a Christian. I won't believe you. To make
that claim, is to be a heretic who does not know God.
Tdub
Obviously, the way to accomplish this is for Christians to stop
posting religous shit here. Then the atheists won't post here. The
latter are only a response to the Christian crap. Why do you think you
have a right to post off topic posts here? When you do it you're
eventually going to get various responses, including complaints for OT
posting, and virulence from aheists. You and your kind brought it on
yourself. Now all you have to do is cease and desist. You put normal
everyday good Christians in a bad light by your behavior. The
principal offender here obviously thinks he was chosen by god to post
OT messages here, and thinks himself a martyr. Spread your insanity
and irrationality somewhere else!