Proof by LORD Almighty GOD: the descent of those suffering from the powerful delusion of 2 Thessalonians 2:9-11.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
... spiralling down into delusions of grandeur, paranoia, and
persecution:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e6fe36d84b6946d1?
May this example help motivate folks to turn to LORD Jesus Christ to
help drive out this powerful delusion from our hearts, which are HIS
temples.
Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com
Bondservant to the KING of kings and LORD of lords.
Steve Knight
<heart...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
>Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,
The only Spirit you know, Chung, is Jack Daniel's. Lay off the
booze. Get a job. Stop being an Internet drunk.
The only reason you can't answer a single direct question is
because you're too hammered to form a thought.
I guess your wife thought so too. That's why she dumped you. You
get a little too 'Spirited' one night and slap her around?
Warlord Steve
BAAWA
Olrik
Well, it is bad. It means you need food. In you pathetic case, two
pounds of crow should be enough. Scrap that : eat all you want!
Olrik
<snip>
Hunger is bad :-)
time of Moses, Peter said in Acts 15:10-11:
"Now then, why do you try to test God by putting on the necks of the
disciples a yoke that neither we nor our fathers have been able to
bear? No! We believe it is through the grace of our Lord Jesus that we
are saved, just as they are."
These are the only dietary restrictions that are listed for Christians
to observe:
"...abstain from food polluted by idols, from the meat of strangled
animals and from blood." Acts 15:20
This is repeated in Acts 15:28-29 so there would be no room for
misunderstanding :
"It seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us not to burden you with
anything beyond the following requirements: 29You are to abstain from
food sacrificed to idols, from blood, from the meat of strangled
animals and from sexual immorality. You will do well to avoid these
things."
That's all folks.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
<><
Hunger is wonderful :-))))
"Blessed are you who hunger NOW...
... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)
Amen.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/389c462d2287dcf8?
> >
> > Starting with the powerful delusion that hunger is bad...
>
> Well, it is bad.
Only to the deluded.
> It means you need food.
Incorrect. It only means we want food and not that we need it.
The hiccups of an unborn baby indicate s/he is hungry.
However, we know that the unborn baby does not need food because s/he
is getting nourishment from mom via the umbilical cord.
This is scientific proof that hunger does not mean we need food.
Bottom line:
You remain pathologically untruthful.
This simply shows that the Holy Spirit is absolutely right to convict
you:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Olrik
May we, who have stopped sinning to walk closely with Christ, continue
to pray for your endangered soul:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/PrayForOlrik
James
<heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
> convicted neighbor Olrik wrote:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > >http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/389c462d2287dcf8?
>
> > > Starting with the powerful delusion that hunger is bad...
>
> > Well, it is bad.
>
> Only to the deluded.
>
> > It means you need food.
>
> Incorrect. It only means we want food and not that we need it.
>
> The hiccups of an unborn baby indicate s/he is hungry.
>
> However, we know that the unborn baby does not need food because s/he
> is getting nourishment from mom via the umbilical cord.
>
> This is scientific proof that hunger does not mean we need food.
>
> Bottom line:
>
> You remain pathologically untruthful.
>
> This simply shows that the Holy Spirit is absolutely right to convict
> you:
>
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Olrik
>
> May we, who have stopped sinning to walk closely with Christ, continue
> to pray for your endangered soul:
>
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/PrayForOlrik
>
> Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,
>
> Andrew <><
You do realize, of course, that you're simply indexing indexes of your
own posts? And that by no convoluted logic could this possibly be
considered evidence for anything other than the fact that you're an
egomaniacal fool?
People like you make more atheists than anything else. Keep up the
good work, "doc."
Al
>
> Hunger is wonderful :-))))
>
And you're a blowjob
J A
<heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
> Starting with the powerful delusion that hunger is bad...
>
> ... spiralling down into delusions of grandeur, paranoia, and
> persecution:
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e6fe36d84b6946d1?
>
> May this example help motivate folks to turn to LORD Jesus Christ
CHUNG - B E H O L D
Ask Rabbi Simmons
Jesus as the Messiah
Ask the Rabbi Pages
Question: Why did the majority of the Jewish world reject Jesus as
the Messiah, and why did the first Christians accept Jesus as the
Messiah?
Answer
It is important to understand why Jews don't believe in Jesus.
Jews do not accept Jesus as the messiah because:
1) Jesus did not fulfill the messianic prophecies.
2) Jesus did not embody the personal qualifications of the Messiah.
3) Biblical verses "referring" to Jesus are mistranslations.
4) Jewish belief is based on national revelation.
At the end of this article, we will examine these additional topics:
5) Christianity contradicts Jewish theology
6) Jews and Gentiles
7) Bringing the Messiah
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1) JESUS DID NOT FULFILL THE MESSIANIC PROPHECIES
What is the Messiah supposed to accomplish? The Bible says that he
will:
A. Build the Third Temple (Ezekiel 37:26-28).
B. Gather all Jews back to the Land of Israel (Isaiah 43:5-6).
C. Usher in an era of world peace, and end all hatred, oppression,
suffering and disease. As it says: "Nation shall not lift up sword
against nation, neither shall man learn war anymore." (Isaiah 2:4)
D. Spread universal knowledge of the God of Israel, which will unite
humanity as one. As it says: "God will be King over all the world --
on that day, God will be One and His Name will be One" (Zechariah
14:9).
The historical fact is that Jesus fulfilled none of these messianic
prophecies.
Christians counter that Jesus will fulfill these in the Second Coming,
but Jewish sources show that the Messiah will fulfill the prophecies
outright, and no concept of a second coming exists.
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2) JESUS DID NOT EMBODY THE PERSONAL QUALIFICATIONS OF MESSIAH
A. MESSIAH AS PROPHET
Jesus was not a prophet. Prophecy can only exist in Israel when the
land is inhabited by a majority of world Jewry. During the time of
Ezra (circa 300 BCE), when the majority of Jews refused to move from
Babylon to Israel, prophecy ended upon the death of the last prophets
-- Haggai, Zechariah and Malachi.
Jesus appeared on the scene approximately 350 years after prophecy had
ended.
B. DESCENDENT OF DAVID
The Messiah must be descended on his father's side from King David
(see Genesis 49:10 and Isaiah 11:1). According to the Christian claim
that Jesus was the product of a virgin birth, he had no father -- and
thus could not have possibly fulfilled the messianic requirement of
being descended on his father's side from King David!
C. TORAH OBSERVANCE
The Messiah will lead the Jewish people to full Torah observance. The
Torah states that all mitzvot remain binding forever, and anyone
coming to change the Torah is immediately identified as a false
prophet. (Deut. 13:1-4)
Throughout the New Testament, Jesus contradicts the Torah and states
that its commandments are no longer applicable. (see John 1:45 and
9:16, Acts 3:22 and 7:37)
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3) MISTRANSLATED VERSES "REFERRING" TO JESUS
Biblical verses can only be understood by studying the original Hebrew
text -- which reveals many discrepancies in the Christian translation.
A. VIRGIN BIRTH
The Christian idea of a virgin birth is derived from the verse in
Isaiah 7:14 describing an "alma" as giving birth. The word "alma" has
always meant a young woman, but Christian theologians came centuries
later and translated it as "virgin." This accords Jesus' birth with
the first century pagan idea of mortals being impregnated by gods.
B. CRUCIFIXION
The verse in Psalms 22:17 reads: "Like a lion, they are at my hands
and feet." The Hebrew word ki-ari (like a lion) is grammatically
similar to the word "gouged." Thus Christianity reads the verse as a
reference to crucifixion: "They pierced my hands and feet."
C. SUFFERING SERVANT
Christianity claims that Isaiah chapter 53 refers to Jesus, as the
"suffering servant."
In actuality, Isaiah 53 directly follows the theme of chapter 52,
describing the exile and redemption of the Jewish people. The
prophecies are written in the singular form because the Jews
("Israel") are regarded as one unit. The Torah is filled with examples
of the Jewish nation referred to with a singular pronoun.
Ironically, Isaiah's prophecies of persecution refer in part to the
11th century when Jews were tortured and killed by Crusaders who acted
in the name of Jesus.
From where did these mistranslations stem? St. Gregory, 4th century
Bishop of Nanianzus, wrote: "A little jargon is all that is necessary
to impose on the people. The less they comprehend, the more they
admire."
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4) JEWISH BELIEF IS BASED SOLELY ON NATIONAL REVELATION
Of the 15,000 religions in human history, only Judaism bases its
belief on national revelation -- i.e. God speaking to the entire
nation. If God is going to start a religion, it makes sense He'll tell
everyone, not just one person.
Judaism, unique among all of the world's major religions, does not
rely on "claims of miracles" as the basis for its religion. In fact,
the Bible says that God sometimes grants the power of "miracles" to
charlatans, in order to test Jewish loyalty to the Torah (Deut. 13:4).
Maimonides states (Foundations of Torah, ch. 8):
The Jews did not believe in Moses, our teacher, because of the
miracles he performed. Whenever anyone's belief is based on seeing
miracles, he has lingering doubts, because it is possible the miracles
were performed through magic or sorcery. All of the miracles performed
by Moses in the desert were because they were necessary, and not as
proof of his prophecy.
What then was the basis of [Jewish] belief? The Revelation at Mount
Sinai, which we saw with our own eyes and heard with our own ears, not
dependent on the testimony of others... as it says, "Face to face, God
spoke with you..." The Torah also states: "God did not make this
covenant with our fathers, but with us -- who are all here alive
today." (Deut. 5:3)
Judaism is not miracles. It is the personal eyewitness experience of
every man, woman and child, standing at Mount Sinai 3,300 years ago.
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5) CHRISTIANITY CONTRADICTS JEWISH THEOLOGY
The following theological points apply primarily to the Roman Catholic
Church, the largest Christian denomination, and the one most familiar
to the Western world.
A. GOD AS THREE?
The Catholic idea of Trinity breaks God into three separate beings:
The Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost (Matthew 28:19).
Contrast this to the Shema, the basis of Jewish belief: "Hear O
Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is ONE" (Deut. 6:4). Jews declare
the Shema every day, while writing it on doorposts (Mezuzah), and
binding it to the hand and head (Tefillin). This statement of God's
One-ness is the first words a Jewish child is taught to say, and the
last words uttered before a Jew dies.
In Jewish law, worship of a three-part god is considered idolatry --
one of the three cardinal sins that a Jew should rather give up his
life than transgress. This explains why during the Inquisitions and
throughout history, Jews gave up their lives rather than convert.
B. MAN AS GOD?
Christians believe that God came down to earth in human form, as Jesus
said: "I and the Father are one" (John 10:30).
Maimonides devotes most of the "Guide for the Perplexed" to the
fundamental idea that God is incorporeal, meaning that He assumes no
physical form. God is Eternal, above time. He is Infinite, beyond
space. He cannot be born, and cannot die. Saying that God assumes
human form makes God small, diminishing both His unity and His
divinity. As the Torah says: "God is not a mortal" (Numbers 23:19).
Judaism says that the Messiah will be born of human parents, and
possess normal physical attributes like other people. He will not be a
demi-god, and will not possess supernatural qualities. In fact, an
individual is alive in every generation with the capacity to step into
the role of the Messiah. (see Maimonides - Laws of Kings 11:3)
C. INTERMEDIARY FOR PRAYER?
The Catholic belief is that prayer must be directed through an
intermediary -- i.e. confessing one's sins to a priest. Jesus himself
is an intermediary, as Jesus said: "No man cometh unto the Father but
by me."
In Judaism, prayer is a totally private matter, between each
individual and God. As the Bible says: "God is near to all who call
unto Him" (Psalms 145:18). Further, the Ten Commandments state: "You
shall have no other gods BEFORE ME," meaning that it is forbidden to
set up a mediator between God and man. (see Maimonides - Laws of
Idolatry ch. 1)
D. INVOLVEMENT IN THE PHYSICAL WORLD
Catholic doctrine often treats the physical world as an evil to be
avoided. Mary, the holiest woman, is portrayed as a virgin. Priests
and nuns are celibate. And monasteries are in remote, secluded
locations.
By contrast, Judaism believes that God created the physical world not
to frustrate us, but for our pleasure. Jewish spirituality comes
through grappling with the mundane world in a way that uplifts and
elevates. Sex in the proper context is one of the holiest acts we can
perform.
The Talmud says if a person has the opportunity to taste a new fruit
and refuses to do so, he will have to account for that in the World to
Come. Jewish rabbinical schools teach how to live amidst the bustle of
commercial activity. Jews don't retreat from life, we elevate it.
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6) JEWS AND GENTILES
Judaism does not demand that everyone convert to the religion. The
Torah of Moses is a truth for all humanity, whether Jewish or not.
King Solomon asked God to heed the prayers of non-Jews who come to the
Holy Temple (Kings I 8:41-43). The prophet Isaiah refers to the Temple
as a "House for all nations."
The Temple service during Sukkot featured 70 bull offerings,
corresponding to the 70 nations of the world. The Talmud says that if
the Romans would have realized how much benefit they were getting from
the Temple, they'd never have destroyed it.
Jews have never actively sought converts to Judaism because the Torah
prescribes a righteous path for gentiles to follow, known as the
"Seven Laws of Noah." Maimonides explains that any human being who
faithfully observes these basic moral laws earns a proper place in
heaven.
For further study of the Seven Laws of Noah, see:
Bnei Noah of Fort Worth
http://www.fastlane.net/~bneinoah/
Path of the Righteous Gentile
http://www.chabad.org/gopher/outlook/7laws/index.html
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7) BRINGING THE MESSIAH
Maimonides states that the popularity of Christianity (and Islam) is
part of God's plan to spread the ideals of Torah throughout the world.
This moves society closer to a perfected state of morality and toward
a greater understanding of God. All this is in preparation for the
Messianic age.
Indeed, the world is in desperate need of Messianic redemption. War
and pollution threaten our planet; ego and confusion erode family
life. To the extent we are aware of the problems of society, is the
extent we will yearn for redemption. As the Talmud says, one of the
first questions a Jew is asked on Judgment Day is: "Did you yearn for
the arrival of the Messiah?"
How can we hasten the coming of the Messiah? The best way is to love
all humanity generously, to keep the mitzvot of the Torah (as best we
can), and to encourage others to do so as well.
Despite the gloom, the world does seem headed toward redemption. One
apparent sign is that the Jewish people have returned to the Land of
Israel and made it bloom again. Additionally, a major movement is
afoot of young Jews returning to Torah tradition.
The Messiah can come at any moment, and it all depends on our actions.
God is ready when we are. For as King David says: "Redemption will
come today -- if you hearken to His voice."
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For further study, read "The Real Messiah" by Rabbi Aryeh Kaplan
Online resources on the Jewish view of Jesus:
http://www.jewsforjudaism.org
http://www.outreachjudaism.org
http://www.drazin.com With blessings from Jerusalem,
Rabbi Shraga Simmons
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
<><
May everyone else have a Blessedly Wonderful Christmas...
... by being hungrier :-))
Hunger is wonderful:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/BeBlessed
:-)))
Al
>
> May everyone else have a Blessedly Wonderful Christmas...
>
> ... by being hungrier :-))
>
Only two things you're hungrier for are attention and COCK
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
<><
May everyone else have a Blessedly Wonderful Christmas...
... by being hungrier :-))
Hunger is wonderful:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/BeBlessed
"Blessed are you who hunger NOW...
... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)
Amen.
:-)))
:-)
Childish and padantic.
> > Read it for yourself:
> >http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts%2015:10-29&version=31
>
> Physical hunger is not a dietary burden but rather knowledge of good
> versus evil.
There are plenty of devoted Christians full of the Holy Spirit who
have been overweight their whole lives -Just as there are many very
evil men who have been thin and wiry their whole lives.
> Hunger is wonderful :-)
I never feel hunger. That's the benefit of learning to eat as healthy
as possible. Even when I fast, I don't feel hunger pangs. I start to
lose some physical energy - but I get increased mental energy in
return.
How I do it:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/7ddba40cc44d9960
> GOD and HIS blessings are good because they make us feel physically
> hungrier.
Yes God has richly blessed me in learning to live a healthier
lifestyle. The only thing I'm physically hungry for theses days - is
activity.
:-)
> People like you make more atheists than anything else. Keep up the
> good work, "doc."
It's an old trick. Glad his is so transparent.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
<><
May everyone else have a Blessedly Wonderful Christmas...
... by being hungrier :-)))
Hunger is wonderful:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/BeBlessed
"Blessed are you who hunger NOW...
... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)
Amen.
:-)))))
Zen Cohen
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <heart...@emorycardiology.com> wrote in message
news:d49425ca-226b-4f8b...@y5g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Rebukesatan
>
> <><
>
> May everyone else have a Blessedly Wonderful Christmas...
>
> ... by being hungrier :-)))
Andrew, do you really think ":-)" is satan or is possessed by satan? Do you
not like the fact that he lost lots of weight and became healthy even though
he ate more than two pounds a day and is not hungry? He seems to be a nice
guy (I assume guy) who seems to have a strong and sincere love for the same
god you worship. He understands the bible better than you and does not
wildly misinterpret it as you do. He also appears to be a far more
compassionate, patient, and stable person than you. If anything, you should
use him as a role model. WTF is the matter with you?
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
<><
May everyone else have a Blessedly Wonderful Christmas...
... by being hungrier :-))
Hunger is wonderful:
Olrik
<heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
> convicted neighbor Olrik wrote:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > >http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/389c462d2287dcf8?
>
> > > Starting with the powerful delusion that hunger is bad...
>
> > Well, it is bad.
>
> Only to the deluded.
No, being hungry is bad. It means you need food.
> > It means you need food.
>
> Incorrect. It only means we want food and not that we need it.
You're insane. When someone's hungry, you feed him/her.
> The hiccups of an unborn baby indicate s/he is hungry.
>
> However, we know that the unborn baby does not need food because s/he
> is getting nourishment from mom via the umbilical cord.
Playing with words again, schizo?
> This is scientific proof that hunger does not mean we need food.
That's probably why your wife left you. Were you trying to starve your
baby, Chung?
> Bottom line:
>
> You remain pathologically untruthful.
Of course not. You"re just a batshit crazy usenet kook telling people
to go hungry. You're a menace to public health (I guess it's a good
thing that just about nobody listens to you.)
Olrik
<snip deviant self-serving links>
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > convicted neighbor Olrik wrote:
> > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >
> > > >http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/389c462d2287dcf8?
> >
> > > > Starting with the powerful delusion that hunger is bad...
> >
> > > Well, it is bad.
> >
> > Only to the deluded.
>
> No, being hungry is bad.
Incorrect.
> It means you need food.
Incorrect.
It simply means that we want food and not that we need it.
Bottom line:
You suffer from the powerful delusion as prophesied in 2 Thessalonians
2:9-11.
This simply shows that the Holy Spirit is absolutely right to convict
you:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Olrik
May we, who are not deluded, continue to pray for your endangered
body and soul:
DanielSan
> convicted neighbor Olrik wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>> convicted neighbor Olrik wrote:
>>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/389c462d2287dcf8?
>>>>> Starting with the powerful delusion that hunger is bad...
>>>> Well, it is bad.
>>> Only to the deluded.
>> No, being hungry is bad.
>
> Incorrect.
>
>> It means you need food.
>
> Incorrect.
>
> It simply means that we want food and not that we need it.
Good. The next time you are hungry, don't eat.
For several months.
:-)
--
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* DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 *
*--------------------------------------------------*
* "I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act *
* of the whole American people which declared that *
* their legislature should make no law respecting *
* an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the *
* free exercise thereof, thus building a wall of *
* separation between church and state." *
* --Thomas Jefferson, 1802 *
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
May everyone else have a Blessedly Wonderful Christmas...
... by being hungrier:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/ac2e9182437e0f50?
Hunger is wonderful :-)
Its how we know what GOD wants, which is what is good.
Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve
paid for with their and our immortal lives.
Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:
:-)
> do you really think ":-)" is satan or is possessed by satan?
> Do you not like the fact that he lost lots of weight and became healthy even though
> he ate more than two pounds a day and is not hungry?
Actually I may only eat around 32 oz. of food per day, when I'm not
experiencing extreme exertion. But I don't feel hungry all the time
because my diet is highly balanced and loaded with concentrated
nutrients.
But that's me and it comes about naturally - I don't weigh anything
out, but I can pretty accurately estimate volume by weight in
retrospect. I actually had to eat a little extra this week because I
went below 155 lbs. and I prefer to keep my BMI at 20.
> He seems to be a nice
> guy (I assume guy)
Let me take a look here - yes, I am a guy.
> who seems to have a strong and sincere love for the same
> god you worship.
I do indeed love my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and thank my Heaven
Father daily for His love for me a sinner and for his many blessings.
I don't want to sound preachy, but I credit God for enabling me to get
my heath back. And not just back, but in greater abundance than I ever
had before. There's no way I could have done it without the Lord.
> He understands the bible better than you and does not
> wildly misinterpret it as you do. He also appears to be a far more
> compassionate, patient, and stable person than you. If anything, you should
> use him as a role model.
Jesus who is my role model, was hated by the Pharisees because he was
the friend of those they considered evil sinners whom I'm sure He
treated with gentleness and respect (1 Peter 3:15), and because he
exposed the Pharisees for what they were.
:-)
> No, being hungry is bad. It means you need food.
In my experience it means you need proper nutrition.
Filling up on insufficiently nutritious food actually makes you
hungrier sooner.
If you're getting enough nutrition those hunger pangs go away - you
just know when it's time to eat. And because you're taking in so much
concentrated nutrition, by nature you eat small amounts.
:-)
Thessalonians
> 2:9-11.
Which has absolutely nothing to do with an omer of food.
It all has to do with the false messiah and those who will be deluded
by his counterfeit spirituality.
There will be zillions of proper weight, overweight and obese
Christians who will not be subject to this delusion.
There will be zillions of obese, proper weight or underweight people,
who have hardened their hearts against God, who will be subject to it.
It's all about the heart - not the stomach.
Olrik
<heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
> convicted neighbor Olrik wrote:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > convicted neighbor Olrik wrote:
> > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > > > >http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/389c462d2287dcf8?
>
> > > > > Starting with the powerful delusion that hunger is bad...
>
> > > > Well, it is bad.
>
> > > Only to the deluded.
>
> > No, being hungry is bad.
>
> Incorrect.
On the contrary, it's quite correct. As animals, we need food to stay
alive. The very fact that you, Chung, eat food is the proof.
> > It means you need food.
>
> Incorrect.
>
> It simply means that we want food and not that we need it.
Chung, I dare you to stop eating. Forever.
<snip childish stuff>
Olrik
<snip copy & paste crap>
"Good. The next time you are hungry, don't eat.
For several months.
:-) "
Do it, Chung, or else.
Olrik
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > convicted neighbor Olrik wrote:
> > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > convicted neighbor Olrik wrote:
> > > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >
> > > > > >http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/389c462d2287dcf8?
> >
> > > > > > Starting with the powerful delusion that hunger is bad...
> >
> > > > > Well, it is bad.
> >
> > > > Only to the deluded.
> >
> > > No, being hungry is bad.
> >
> > Incorrect.
>
> On the contrary, it's quite correct.
Only for the deluded such as yourself.
> As animals, we need food to stay
> alive.
"... man does not live on bread alone but on every word that comes
from the mouth of GOD." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Matthew 4:4)
> The very fact that you, Chung, eat food is the proof.
The fact is that I eat the optimal amount of food that I eat to become
hungrier (healthier).
The knowledge about the optimal amount of food comes from GOD and is
summarized by one word, which is HIS word:
OMER (Exodus 16:16)
Your continuing to suffer from the delusion of 2 Thessalonians 2:9-11
yama...@aol.com
Definition of delusion: A false belief strongly held in spite of
invalidating evidence, especially as a symptom of mental illness, an
idiosyncratic belief or thought pattern not shared by the general
population.
Chung is a perfect example of a delusional person. He lies and twists
words to fit his fantasy world. He misinterprets bible passages. His
fixation on Christianity is a manifestation of his mental illness. 2
Thessalonians 2:9-11 is not about food, yet Chung claims it is because
it fits his own fantasy structured beliefs. He lies about his clinical
experience and "empirical" evidence for his 2 lb diet. He lies about
the biblical measure of an omer. He lies about having $2 million
dollars or having sold the domain name of emorycardiology.com for 1
million dollars. He lies about having a publicist or having an actual
office. He thinks the Holy Spirit dictates to him. He claims to not
sin.
Perhaps in his twisted thought structure he believes he is telling the
truth. That is because he is delusional as per the above definition.
He is mentally ill and will soon lose his Georgia Medical License. His
lies have caught up with him.
J666
> Perhaps in his twisted thought structure he believes he is telling the
> truth. That is because he is delusional as per the above definition.
> He is mentally ill and will soon lose his Georgia Medical License. His
> lies have caught up with him.
Hear ye of little faith come and hearken to the truth discerned by
scientists and scholars that the manna sent to Moses et al in the
desert is the basis of Angel Food Cake and since manna had all the
nutrition one needed and did not stretch the stomach, as quoted by
Chung from the Holy Spirit, so you remain hungry even if eat it all at
one time.
The best Way is the Angel Food Cake OMER Approach (AFCOA). All you
need to do is bake, or buy, a two pound Angel Food Cake and that is
all you need for the whole day - no bother with scales and weighing
and can bring it anywhere and not worry. So put aside the 2 pound OMER
Approach for the Approach, AFCOA, which is based on God's manna.
BusinessAc...@gmail.com
>
> Hear ye of little faith come and hearken to the truth discerned by
> scientists and scholars that the manna sent to Moses et al in the
> desert is the basis of Angel Food Cake and since manna had all the
> nutrition one needed and did not stretch the stomach, as quoted by
> Chung from the Holy Spirit, so you remain hungry even if eat it all at
> one time.
>
> The best Way is the Angel Food Cake OMER Approach (AFCOA). All you
> need to do is bake, or buy, a two pound Angel Food Cake and that is
> all you need for the whole day - no bother with scales and weighing
> and can bring it anywhere and not worry. So put aside the 2 pound OMER
> Approach for the Approach, AFCOA, which is based on God's manna.
I wonder if Chung will be chung-ho about J666's AFCOA - this could be
Heaven sent.
Zen Cohen
<yama...@aol.com> wrote in message
....> He is mentally ill and will soon lose his Georgia Medical License.
Have you filed a complaint against him, or do you know if one is pending? I
doubt he'll *lose* his license for his mental problems but it might warrant
suspension or mandatory treatment. His unsound medical pronouncements here
might bring harsher measures, though.
BusinessAc...@gmail.com
> <yamant...@aol.com> wrote in message
How much is insanity and how much is just plain old fashion trolling.
He does seem to be somewhat selective with his responses and there
seem to be some to which he never, or rarely, responds, so there is
some decision making on his part.
Many medical boards require a patient to complain and the question is,
is he practicing medicine or just having fun trolling here? Is
commenting on a usenet group, practicing medicine? Does he have an
office and see patients and/or does he have hospital privileges and
see patients in an hospital? Would anything he says here be grounds
for a medical board to act? Aside from his "diet" he does not seem to
make many medical recommendations and occasionally he does make
legitimate medical comments
It does not take long to view him as crazy and/or a troll. He responds
to scientific arguments by "discerning" and quoting the Bible and
"convicts" those who disagree.
I've wondered how astronauts on his diet would do in the
weightlessness of space - eat all they want?
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Zen Cohen
<BusinessAc...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Dec 23, 4:16 pm, "Zen Cohen"
>> <yamant...@aol.com> wrote in message
>>
>> ....> He is mentally ill and will soon lose his Georgia Medical License.
>>
>> Have you filed a complaint against him, or do you know if one is pending?
>> I
>> doubt he'll *lose* his license for his mental problems but it might
>> warrant
>> suspension or mandatory treatment. His unsound medical pronouncements
>> here
>> might bring harsher measures, though.
>
> How much is insanity and how much is just plain old fashion trolling.
> He does seem to be somewhat selective with his responses and there
> seem to be some to which he never, or rarely, responds, so there is
> some decision making on his part.
>
> Many medical boards require a patient to complain and the question is,
> is he practicing medicine or just having fun trolling here?
Based on my reading of the rules governing GA physicians' professional
conduct, and a call to the board (FWIW), a dr/patient relationship is not
required for the board to take action.
Is
> commenting on a usenet group, practicing medicine? Does he have an
> office and see patients and/or does he have hospital privileges and
> see patients in an hospital? Would anything he says here be grounds
> for a medical board to act? Aside from his "diet" he does not seem to
> make many medical recommendations and occasionally he does make
> legitimate medical comments
I believe the board will act against a dr whose mental health interferes
with his ability to make sound medical judgments and decisions. IMO his
rigid one-size-fits-all 2-lb diet is very irresponsible because it's largely
based on a ridiculous interp of scripture.
He's also lied many times on this forum that his claims for the 2-lb diet
have empirical support, and it's important to note in that connection that
misleading/fraudulent medical claims by a doc are grounds for discipline.
That would seem to be one of the strongest bases for complaining about Chung
to the medical board.
But as a practical matter, whether Chung's conduct violates the rules is
ultimately a question for the board members themselves.
>
> It does not take long to view him as crazy and/or a troll. He responds
> to scientific arguments by "discerning" and quoting the Bible and
> "convicts" those who disagree.
>
I think if he's pulling our leg, it's been a fantastic hoax, and I'd be the
first to applaud such a convincing performance. But AFAIC he's just a deeply
disturbed man who has the credentials to do a lot of damage.
yama...@aol.com
> <BusinessAccountEm...@gmail.com> wrote in message
Chung suffers from delusions, rigidity and mental illness. His
intelligence has slowly deteriorated. He is now only capable of rote,
reflex responses. He is concrete and not able to grasp abstractions.
All of these traits are signs of mental illness. His ideas of
reference and grandiosity are classic psychotic signs too. He is not
capable of hoax or parody. He is an ego-syntonic regressed.
narcissictic, psychotic paranoid schizophrenic. His convict list and
belief in Satan and febile attempts to "rebuke satan" and his
narcissistic belief in special, personal direct -to-Andrew-only
messages from the Holy Spirit all are consistent with that diagnosis.
He is a sick, impotent, mean-spirited little man.
He has come to the attention of authorities that have the power to do
something about his medical license.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
J666
> I believe the board will act against a dr whose mental health interferes
> with his ability to make sound medical judgments and decisions. IMO his
> rigid one-size-fits-all 2-lb diet is very irresponsible because it's largely
> based on a ridiculous interp of scripture.
>
> He's also lied many times on this forum that his claims for the 2-lb diet
> have empirical support, and it's important to note in that connection that
> misleading/fraudulent medical claims by a doc are grounds for discipline.
> That would seem to be one of the strongest bases for complaining about Chung
> to the medical board.
>
> But as a practical matter, whether Chung's conduct violates the rules is
> ultimately a question for the board members themselves.
"Zen Cohen" then, do it yourself.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Pastor Frank
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demanding the doctor's licence be "suspended", will be a momentary comic
relief for those in charge of Georgia's Medical Licenses, I'm sure.
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
Pastor Frank
news:d3vom3l2fm4snb4iu...@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 21 Dec 2007 15:26:43 -0800 (PST), "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
> <heart...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
>>
>>Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,
>
> booze. Get a job. Stop being an Internet drunk.
> The only reason you can't answer a single direct question is
> because you're too hammered to form a thought.
>
When are you going to "form a thought" Warlord? All we have seen you do
is hate people, trash their beliefs and flame their person. Can't you do
anything else?
J666
>
> When are you going to "form a thought" Warlord? All we have seen you do
> is hate people, trash their beliefs and flame their person. Can't you do
> anything else?
The Angel Food Cake OMER Approach is far superior to Chung's
Approach. Chung had the seed of the idea, but made it too complicated
straying from what actually happen in the desert.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
<><
May everyone else have a blessedly wonderful Christmas...
... by being hungrier:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/ac2e9182437e0f50?
Hunger is wonderful :-)
It's how we know what GOD wants, which is what is good.
J666
More and more - what a shame to see a mind stuck deeper in a rut and
only able to repeat the same thing over and over
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Mark K. Bilbo
You mean the people who actually went after Chung? Those people? Didn't
Chung tell you about almost losing his license? Apparently he got lucky
that time but there's always a next time.
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
------------------------------------------------------------
“Man's limitations are also visible in his gods. Yahveh
seems to have had His hands full with the Devil from
the start. His plans for Adam and Eve went to pot,
and He failed again with Noah. His worst failure came
when He sent His only-begotten Son into the world to
rescue man from sin. It would be hard to imagine any
scheme falling further from success.”
- H. L. Mencken
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
<><
May everyone else have a blessedly wonderful New Years ...
... by being hungrier:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/ac2e9182437e0f50?
Hunger is wonderful :-)
It's how we know what GOD wants, which is what is good.
Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve
paid for with their and our immortal lives.
Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/BeBlessed
"Blessed are you who hunger NOW...
... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)
Amen.
:-)))
Pastor Frank
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> On Tue, 25 Dec 2007 13:05:19 -0500, Pastor Frank wrote:
>> "Zen Cohen" <atu...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:476ede4d$0$16175$4c36...@roadrunner.com...
>>> <yama...@aol.com> wrote in message
>>>
>>> ....> He is mentally ill and will soon lose his Georgia Medical
>>> License. Have you filed a complaint against him, or do you know if one
>>> is pending? I doubt he'll *lose* his license for his mental problems
>>> but it might warrant suspension or mandatory treatment. His unsound
>>> medical pronouncements here might bring harsher measures, though.
>>
>> LOL a fatso slob complaining about a doctor advising him to eat less
>> and demanding the doctor's licence be "suspended", will be a momentary
>> comic relief for those in charge of Georgia's Medical Licenses, I'm sure.
>
> You mean the people who actually went after Chung? Those people? Didn't
> Chung tell you about almost losing his license? Apparently he got lucky
> that time but there's always a next time.
>
What else is new? Atheist persecution of Christians is common place these
days.
Sanity's Little Helper
news:4773721e$0$26099$8826...@free.teranews.com to alt.atheism on 27
Dec 2007:
So, STFU and FOAD, already! Then the persecution will stop -
automatically, because it's you Christers who are persecuting
civilisation. We're merely defending it.
--
David Silverman D.B.E.
aa #2208
Lord Mayor of Dis
It's not just the state, it's the mind that the church needs separating
from.
Mark K. Bilbo
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Rebukesatan
>
> <><
>
> May everyone else have a blessedly wonderful New Years ...
Because Chung hates you all!
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
------------------------------------------------------------
“We must respect the other fellow's religion, but only
in the sense and to the extent that we respect his theory
that his wife is beautiful and his children smart.”
- H. L. Mencken
Mark K. Bilbo
> "Mark K. Bilbo" <gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message
> news:kija45...@eac.exists.not...
>> On Tue, 25 Dec 2007 13:05:19 -0500, Pastor Frank wrote:
>>> "Zen Cohen" <atu...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:476ede4d$0$16175$4c36...@roadrunner.com...
>>>> <yama...@aol.com> wrote in message
>>>>
>>>> ....> He is mentally ill and will soon lose his Georgia Medical
>>>> License. Have you filed a complaint against him, or do you know if
>>>> one is pending? I doubt he'll *lose* his license for his mental
>>>> problems but it might warrant suspension or mandatory treatment. His
>>>> unsound medical pronouncements here might bring harsher measures,
>>>> though.
>>>
>>> LOL a fatso slob complaining about a doctor advising him to eat
>>> less
>>> and demanding the doctor's licence be "suspended", will be a momentary
>>> comic relief for those in charge of Georgia's Medical Licenses, I'm
>>> sure.
>>
>> You mean the people who actually went after Chung? Those people? Didn't
>> Chung tell you about almost losing his license? Apparently he got lucky
>> that time but there's always a next time.
>>
> I know of teachers who lost their licences for mentioning God in
> class.
Liar.
> What else is new? Atheist persecution of Christians is common place
> these days.
No, fruitcup, Chung is mentally ill and needs his license pulled so he
doesn't *harm* people.
Not that you give a flying fig about people or anything...
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
------------------------------------------------------------
Jesus loves you all, and can't wait to control you like a
small household pet
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
<><
May everyone else have a blessedly wonderful New Years ...
... by being hungrier:
http://TruthRUS.org/KnowingGOD
Mark K. Bilbo
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Rebukesatan
>
> <><
>
> May everyone else have a blessedly wonderful New Years ...
Can somebody reboot the Chung bot? It's stuck in a loop again...
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
------------------------------------------------------------
“There is always an easy solution to every
problem - neat, plausible, and wrong.”
- H. L. Mencken
J666
> I know of teachers who lost their licences for mentioning God in class.
> What else is new? Atheist persecution of Christians is common place these
> days.
If it is not a religious (Christian, Muslim etc) school, then God and
faith, any faith, may not be allowed.
All over the world there are people of one faith, and those of no
faith, persecuting people of other faiths. How many wars, how much
misery and how many deaths have there been in the name of one religion
against those who do not follow that specific religion.
I would like to see news articles from the mainstream press of
teachers who actually lost their state licenses, not just their jobs,
for only mentioning God in class. These events, in the US, would have
made the news and the teachers may very well have grounds to sue.
Elsewhere in the world,there are countries in the world, where a
teacher could lose their license and be subjected to more - just look
at the recent news of the English teacher who was jailed, and was to
receive corporeal punishment, for naming a teddy bear Mohammad.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
<><
May everyone else have a blessedly wonderful New Years ...
... by being hungrier: