VAT is bad (not what GOD wants us to have). We are less healthy (less
hungry) when we have VAT.
VAT (not SAT) is completely pathological, suppressing production of
the beneficial adipokines from SAT with its set of pro-inflammatory
cytokines. Therefore, clinically VAT is harmful.
It is only when we are hungry does our bodies get rid of that harmful
VAT:
Hunger is wonderful :-)
Those who persist in suffering from the powerful delusion that hunger
is bad will perish because they refuse to know and love the truth, Who
is LORD Jesus Christ.
This is the prediction within the prophecy of 2 Thessalonians 2:9-11.
Behold in wide-eyed wonder and amazement at a timely and extreme
example of someone, bearing false witness while wearing sheep
clothing, who clearly suffers from this powerful delusion:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/7990c510fc43e95b?
May GOD have mercy on G.H.'s soul and bless G.H. in HIS mighty way.
Indeed, G.H. will know this prayer is being answered as soon as G.H.
feels extremely hungry :-)
"Blessed are you who hunger NOW...
... for your will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)
Amen.
In the Holy Spirit, I know who G.H. is and in time, G.H. will realize
that nothing is hidden from either GOD or HIS brethren, who are those
who have elected to stop sinning in order to walk closely with HIM.
It should not surprise readers here to learn that G.H. has a lot of
that harmful VAT.
Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/BeBlessed
Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com
Bondservant to the KING of kings and LORD of lords.
So who set up the physiology that allows it in the first place?
-- cary
It remains pathology (fruit of sin) rather than physiology (GOD's
creation).
Truth is simple.
May we, who have no more VAT because we have elected to stop sinning
in order to walk closely with GOD, continue to pray for your
endangered body and soul:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/PrayForCary
Wonder how many more times this will continue - think Guinness Book of
Records
Actually I've seen this same exact type of years long go-round in
other newsgroups. The one guy keeps posting idiotic stuff that
triggers seemingly intelligent people to keep trying to pound sense,
reason, sanity etc. into his head. The guy also makes lots of
mistakes, contradicts himself, gets caught in bald face lies etc. And
all the people he's got on a hook, keep after the guy day after day,
week after week, month after month.
The above is your recipe for trolling and getting a zillion responses
a day.
Someone with a superior intellect can keep this going, without having
to put a whole lot of work into it.
There are people who host interactive blogs that are a lot more
complicated and have a lot more activity to keep track of. There are
people who have dozens of books and magazine articles published, while
working 60+ hrs a week. There's nothing even remotely resembling
Guinness material here.
I guess the author hasn't been in many churches, because a whole lot
of Christians are overweight. Many are obese.
This especially pertains to the Bible Belt where folks have mighty
hearty appetites for Southern comfort cooking. A heaping helping of
fried chicken, mashed taters, gravy, buttermilk biscuits... lots of
pie. Seconds please. Thirds please.
I guess from reading the above statement, the Bible Belt is a virtual
Sodom and Gomorrah, when it comes to food and eating,.
Where oh where do men like this one and others like him end up?
http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20070516/images/falwell280.jpg
>
> In the Holy Spirit, I know who G.H. is and in time, G.H. will realize
> that nothing is hidden from either GOD or HIS brethren, who are those
> who have elected to stop sinning in order to walk closely with HIM.
> It should not surprise readers here to learn that G.H. has a lot of
> that harmful VAT.
>
Ah the pride -- knowing you are internet savvy I have used a series of
friends' computers. Not a post has come from my home. so sorry but
Having friends I am able to remain unknown to you
I would also like an apology -- to make the above statement truthfully
you must have viewed medical images of scans taken of me. To disclose
that information publicly is unethical.
If you have not viewed scans you can not make any determination the
whle external measurement stuff is ff by 60% or more when compared to
scans.
BTW my real life endo has told me I have less VAT than would be
thought and the to attempt to eliminate all VAT is a foolish and
dangerous goal. Neither SAT nor VAT in excess is good but we do need
a bit of each. My doc gave me the journal info I posted earlier. I am
going with my Doc not you.
I found the page that started my posting when I went to a meeting on
the 3rd floor at my church and your weird ideas about hunger were
printed on a page that had been left in my chair.
I will be asking my friends if you have asked about me
Ga Hoya
Two words: Beijing. 2008.
(is `2008' one word?)
-- cary
> Someone with a superior intellect can keep this going, without having
> to put a whole lot of work into it.
More evidence of Satan at work through Chung.
Falwell wound up in Hell as a festive Easter ham, naked, trussed,
and glazed, with cloves in his butt and an apple in his mouth.
I could've done without that visual imagery.
SAT is not VAT.
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Rebukesatan
> Falwell wound up in Hell as a festive Easter ham, naked, trussed,
> and glazed, with cloves in his butt and an apple in his mouth.
It seems you have confused Falwell with our dearly departed and portly
Bob (this one) Pastorio, who was not hungry (therefore was not being
blessed by GOD) the days before his untimely demise inauspiciously on
Fool's day, which happened before Easter:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Bob
May we, who have elected to stop sinning in order to walk closely with
GOD, continue to pray for your endangered soul:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Ferd
You really do not have much longer, dear Ferd:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Prophecy
May you wisely choose to surrender soon by publicly declaring with
your mouth that "Jesus is LORD:"
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/TheWay
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May everyone else have a Blessedly Wonderful Christmas...
... by being hungrier :-))
Hunger is wonderful:
>
> This is the prediction within the prophecy of 2 Thessalonians 2:9-11.
>
> Behold in wide-eyed wonder and amazement
CHUNG - B E H O L D
Ask Rabbi Simmons
Jesus as the Messiah
Ask the Rabbi Pages
Question: Why did the majority of the Jewish world reject Jesus as
the Messiah, and why did the first Christians accept Jesus as the
Messiah?
Answer
It is important to understand why Jews don't believe in Jesus.
Jews do not accept Jesus as the messiah because:
1) Jesus did not fulfill the messianic prophecies.
2) Jesus did not embody the personal qualifications of the Messiah.
3) Biblical verses "referring" to Jesus are mistranslations.
4) Jewish belief is based on national revelation.
At the end of this article, we will examine these additional topics:
5) Christianity contradicts Jewish theology
6) Jews and Gentiles
7) Bringing the Messiah
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1) JESUS DID NOT FULFILL THE MESSIANIC PROPHECIES
What is the Messiah supposed to accomplish? The Bible says that he
will:
A. Build the Third Temple (Ezekiel 37:26-28).
B. Gather all Jews back to the Land of Israel (Isaiah 43:5-6).
C. Usher in an era of world peace, and end all hatred, oppression,
suffering and disease. As it says: "Nation shall not lift up sword
against nation, neither shall man learn war anymore." (Isaiah 2:4)
D. Spread universal knowledge of the God of Israel, which will unite
humanity as one. As it says: "God will be King over all the world --
on that day, God will be One and His Name will be One" (Zechariah
14:9).
The historical fact is that Jesus fulfilled none of these messianic
prophecies.
Christians counter that Jesus will fulfill these in the Second Coming,
but Jewish sources show that the Messiah will fulfill the prophecies
outright, and no concept of a second coming exists.
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2) JESUS DID NOT EMBODY THE PERSONAL QUALIFICATIONS OF MESSIAH
A. MESSIAH AS PROPHET
Jesus was not a prophet. Prophecy can only exist in Israel when the
land is inhabited by a majority of world Jewry. During the time of
Ezra (circa 300 BCE), when the majority of Jews refused to move from
Babylon to Israel, prophecy ended upon the death of the last prophets
-- Haggai, Zechariah and Malachi.
Jesus appeared on the scene approximately 350 years after prophecy had
ended.
B. DESCENDENT OF DAVID
The Messiah must be descended on his father's side from King David
(see Genesis 49:10 and Isaiah 11:1). According to the Christian claim
that Jesus was the product of a virgin birth, he had no father -- and
thus could not have possibly fulfilled the messianic requirement of
being descended on his father's side from King David!
C. TORAH OBSERVANCE
The Messiah will lead the Jewish people to full Torah observance. The
Torah states that all mitzvot remain binding forever, and anyone
coming to change the Torah is immediately identified as a false
prophet. (Deut. 13:1-4)
Throughout the New Testament, Jesus contradicts the Torah and states
that its commandments are no longer applicable. (see John 1:45 and
9:16, Acts 3:22 and 7:37)
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3) MISTRANSLATED VERSES "REFERRING" TO JESUS
Biblical verses can only be understood by studying the original Hebrew
text -- which reveals many discrepancies in the Christian translation.
A. VIRGIN BIRTH
The Christian idea of a virgin birth is derived from the verse in
Isaiah 7:14 describing an "alma" as giving birth. The word "alma" has
always meant a young woman, but Christian theologians came centuries
later and translated it as "virgin." This accords Jesus' birth with
the first century pagan idea of mortals being impregnated by gods.
B. CRUCIFIXION
The verse in Psalms 22:17 reads: "Like a lion, they are at my hands
and feet." The Hebrew word ki-ari (like a lion) is grammatically
similar to the word "gouged." Thus Christianity reads the verse as a
reference to crucifixion: "They pierced my hands and feet."
C. SUFFERING SERVANT
Christianity claims that Isaiah chapter 53 refers to Jesus, as the
"suffering servant."
In actuality, Isaiah 53 directly follows the theme of chapter 52,
describing the exile and redemption of the Jewish people. The
prophecies are written in the singular form because the Jews
("Israel") are regarded as one unit. The Torah is filled with examples
of the Jewish nation referred to with a singular pronoun.
Ironically, Isaiah's prophecies of persecution refer in part to the
11th century when Jews were tortured and killed by Crusaders who acted
in the name of Jesus.
From where did these mistranslations stem? St. Gregory, 4th century
Bishop of Nanianzus, wrote: "A little jargon is all that is necessary
to impose on the people. The less they comprehend, the more they
admire."
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4) JEWISH BELIEF IS BASED SOLELY ON NATIONAL REVELATION
Of the 15,000 religions in human history, only Judaism bases its
belief on national revelation -- i.e. God speaking to the entire
nation. If God is going to start a religion, it makes sense He'll tell
everyone, not just one person.
Judaism, unique among all of the world's major religions, does not
rely on "claims of miracles" as the basis for its religion. In fact,
the Bible says that God sometimes grants the power of "miracles" to
charlatans, in order to test Jewish loyalty to the Torah (Deut. 13:4).
Maimonides states (Foundations of Torah, ch. 8):
The Jews did not believe in Moses, our teacher, because of the
miracles he performed. Whenever anyone's belief is based on seeing
miracles, he has lingering doubts, because it is possible the miracles
were performed through magic or sorcery. All of the miracles performed
by Moses in the desert were because they were necessary, and not as
proof of his prophecy.
What then was the basis of [Jewish] belief? The Revelation at Mount
Sinai, which we saw with our own eyes and heard with our own ears, not
dependent on the testimony of others... as it says, "Face to face, God
spoke with you..." The Torah also states: "God did not make this
covenant with our fathers, but with us -- who are all here alive
today." (Deut. 5:3)
Judaism is not miracles. It is the personal eyewitness experience of
every man, woman and child, standing at Mount Sinai 3,300 years ago.
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5) CHRISTIANITY CONTRADICTS JEWISH THEOLOGY
The following theological points apply primarily to the Roman Catholic
Church, the largest Christian denomination, and the one most familiar
to the Western world.
A. GOD AS THREE?
The Catholic idea of Trinity breaks God into three separate beings:
The Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost (Matthew 28:19).
Contrast this to the Shema, the basis of Jewish belief: "Hear O
Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is ONE" (Deut. 6:4). Jews declare
the Shema every day, while writing it on doorposts (Mezuzah), and
binding it to the hand and head (Tefillin). This statement of God's
One-ness is the first words a Jewish child is taught to say, and the
last words uttered before a Jew dies.
In Jewish law, worship of a three-part god is considered idolatry --
one of the three cardinal sins that a Jew should rather give up his
life than transgress. This explains why during the Inquisitions and
throughout history, Jews gave up their lives rather than convert.
B. MAN AS GOD?
Christians believe that God came down to earth in human form, as Jesus
said: "I and the Father are one" (John 10:30).
Maimonides devotes most of the "Guide for the Perplexed" to the
fundamental idea that God is incorporeal, meaning that He assumes no
physical form. God is Eternal, above time. He is Infinite, beyond
space. He cannot be born, and cannot die. Saying that God assumes
human form makes God small, diminishing both His unity and His
divinity. As the Torah says: "God is not a mortal" (Numbers 23:19).
Judaism says that the Messiah will be born of human parents, and
possess normal physical attributes like other people. He will not be a
demi-god, and will not possess supernatural qualities. In fact, an
individual is alive in every generation with the capacity to step into
the role of the Messiah. (see Maimonides - Laws of Kings 11:3)
C. INTERMEDIARY FOR PRAYER?
The Catholic belief is that prayer must be directed through an
intermediary -- i.e. confessing one's sins to a priest. Jesus himself
is an intermediary, as Jesus said: "No man cometh unto the Father but
by me."
In Judaism, prayer is a totally private matter, between each
individual and God. As the Bible says: "God is near to all who call
unto Him" (Psalms 145:18). Further, the Ten Commandments state: "You
shall have no other gods BEFORE ME," meaning that it is forbidden to
set up a mediator between God and man. (see Maimonides - Laws of
Idolatry ch. 1)
D. INVOLVEMENT IN THE PHYSICAL WORLD
Catholic doctrine often treats the physical world as an evil to be
avoided. Mary, the holiest woman, is portrayed as a virgin. Priests
and nuns are celibate. And monasteries are in remote, secluded
locations.
By contrast, Judaism believes that God created the physical world not
to frustrate us, but for our pleasure. Jewish spirituality comes
through grappling with the mundane world in a way that uplifts and
elevates. Sex in the proper context is one of the holiest acts we can
perform.
The Talmud says if a person has the opportunity to taste a new fruit
and refuses to do so, he will have to account for that in the World to
Come. Jewish rabbinical schools teach how to live amidst the bustle of
commercial activity. Jews don't retreat from life, we elevate it.
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6) JEWS AND GENTILES
Judaism does not demand that everyone convert to the religion. The
Torah of Moses is a truth for all humanity, whether Jewish or not.
King Solomon asked God to heed the prayers of non-Jews who come to the
Holy Temple (Kings I 8:41-43). The prophet Isaiah refers to the Temple
as a "House for all nations."
The Temple service during Sukkot featured 70 bull offerings,
corresponding to the 70 nations of the world. The Talmud says that if
the Romans would have realized how much benefit they were getting from
the Temple, they'd never have destroyed it.
Jews have never actively sought converts to Judaism because the Torah
prescribes a righteous path for gentiles to follow, known as the
"Seven Laws of Noah." Maimonides explains that any human being who
faithfully observes these basic moral laws earns a proper place in
heaven.
For further study of the Seven Laws of Noah, see:
Bnei Noah of Fort Worth
http://www.fastlane.net/~bneinoah/
Path of the Righteous Gentile
http://www.chabad.org/gopher/outlook/7laws/index.html
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7) BRINGING THE MESSIAH
Maimonides states that the popularity of Christianity (and Islam) is
part of God's plan to spread the ideals of Torah throughout the world.
This moves society closer to a perfected state of morality and toward
a greater understanding of God. All this is in preparation for the
Messianic age.
Indeed, the world is in desperate need of Messianic redemption. War
and pollution threaten our planet; ego and confusion erode family
life. To the extent we are aware of the problems of society, is the
extent we will yearn for redemption. As the Talmud says, one of the
first questions a Jew is asked on Judgment Day is: "Did you yearn for
the arrival of the Messiah?"
How can we hasten the coming of the Messiah? The best way is to love
all humanity generously, to keep the mitzvot of the Torah (as best we
can), and to encourage others to do so as well.
Despite the gloom, the world does seem headed toward redemption. One
apparent sign is that the Jewish people have returned to the Land of
Israel and made it bloom again. Additionally, a major movement is
afoot of young Jews returning to Torah tradition.
The Messiah can come at any moment, and it all depends on our actions.
God is ready when we are. For as King David says: "Redemption will
come today -- if you hearken to His voice."
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For further study, read "The Real Messiah" by Rabbi Aryeh Kaplan
Online resources on the Jewish view of Jesus:
http://www.jewsforjudaism.org
http://www.outreachjudaism.org
http://www.drazin.com With blessings from Jerusalem,
Rabbi Shraga Simmons
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Hunger is wonderful:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/BeBlessed
"Blessed are you who hunger NOW...
... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)
Amen.