http://www.grc.nasa.gov/WWW/K-12/airplane/wteq.html
So it is legitimate to ask just what is 2 pounds where it can vary by
altitude.
What is the standard - at what altitude is the 2 pounds set - the
level of the desert where Moses et al wandered and got the manna from
God?
What is the level of accuracy of the scale that is needed - scales
have variation and where is the scale against which all others are
compared
How is the weight adjusted taking into account the variation of
altitude.
What is the variation, either more or less, than what ever is the
standard for 2 pounds at the correct altitude weighed on the correct
scale, is allowable and be in conformity with the 2PD Omer Approach.
The gravitational constant is called that way because it is a constant.
It does not change with time or place.
What depends on the square of distance from the center of the earth is
the gravitational acceleration.
>
> So it is legitimate to ask just what is 2 pounds where it can vary by
> altitude.
>
> What is the standard - at what altitude is the 2 pounds set - the
> level of the desert where Moses et al wandered and got the manna from
> God?
Compared to the host of other problems that come with the 2-PD-approach,
this is really irrelevant. If you want to eliminate this problem
entirely, use a balance scale. It works independently of height.
Thorsten
>J666 schrieb:
>
>> Since the gravitational constant (g) depends on the square of the
>> distance from the center of the earth, the weight of an object
>> decreases with altitude.
>>
>> http://www.grc.nasa.gov/WWW/K-12/airplane/wteq.html
>
>The gravitational constant is called that way because it is a constant.
>It does not change with time or place.
Too bad it does. :)
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When blondes have more fun, do they know it?
ray wrote:
> Right now, about $3.\\
About the price of a plastic god
Correct.
> > So it is legitimate to ask just what is 2 pounds where it can vary by
> > altitude.
> >
> > What is the standard - at what altitude is the 2 pounds set - the
> > level of the desert where Moses et al wandered and got the manna from
> > God?
>
> Compared to the host of other problems that come with the 2-PD-approach,
> this is really irrelevant. If you want to eliminate this problem
> entirely, use a balance scale. It works independently of height.
Balance scales were used by the Jews to measure out an omer of manna
for each person in their tents (Exodus 16:16).
The only problem with the 2PD-OMER Approach resides in those who
suffer from the delusion that hunger is bad:
May the following parable promote understanding:
May we, who are Jesus' disciples, continue to pray for you perishing
soul:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/PrayForThorsten
Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,
Andrew <><
--
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Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com
A latter-day disciple of the KING of kings and LORD of lords.
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/DiscipleNow
It _so_ does not:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravitational_constant
If you don't trust wikipedia, feel free to verify this with the
encyclopedia or textbook of physics of your choice.
Thorsten
It is unlikely that they would have used scales to measure volumes.
>
> The only problem with the 2PD-OMER Approach resides in those who
> suffer from the delusion that hunger is bad:
>
People don't like hunger. That is not a delusion, but a simple fact of
life. Every diet or approach that depends upon persuading people to
accept being hungry over an extended period of time is doomed to fail
sooner or later.
Thorsten
> It is unlikely that they would have used scales to measure volumes.
Very true, but when someone like Chung uses "discerning" rather than
thinking and ignores simple things like calling an Omer a weight were
it is defined as volume, you cannot use reason to convince with him.
It is like Chung defining in his mind that one plus one is three and
then trying convince him that two plus two is not therefore six. His
basic premises are wrong and therefore his conclusions are wrong.
They used scales to ration manna into omers, which were equivalent
amounts by mass, because to do so by volume was not going to be
acceptable because of disputes that would happen over differing
amounts of packing of the manna which is fluffy, tasting like "wafers
made from honey."
> > The only problem with the 2PD-OMER Approach resides in those who
> > suffer from the delusion that hunger is bad:
>
> People don't like hunger.
This does not change the fact that hunger is wonderful and believing
otherwise, delusion.
People don't like discipline, which when from GOD, is also wonderful.
It is a wayward child that believes discipline from GOD is bad.
> That is not a delusion,
Actually, the false belief that discipline is bad is delusion.
> but a simple fact of life.
Incorrect.
> Every diet or approach that depends upon persuading people to
> accept being hungry over an extended period of time is doomed to fail
> sooner or later.
Without hunger, there simply would not be loss of the black fat (VAT)
so that folks would fail to achieve optimal health from the outset of
whatever they may be doing.
Therefore, it remains smarter to eat less down to the right amount:
Those who have a "change of heart" so that they no longer suffer from
the delusion that hunger is bad are able to embrace hunger
indefinitely.
May the following parable promote understanding:
May we, who are Jesus' latter-day disciples, continue to pray for your
> They used scales to ration manna into omers, which were equivalent
> amounts by mass, because to do so by volume was not going to be
> acceptable because of disputes that would happen over differing
> amounts of packing of the manna which is fluffy, tasting like
"wafers
> made from honey."
That fact that is nowhere written in Exodus about scales, is
irrelevant when you make things up to meet your needs.
Putting this whole issue aside, the fact that God instructed Moses
about an Omer of manna, no matter how much that Omer is, that they
same amount of any foods has the same result as the same amount of
manna and therefore the 2PD of any food is not the same as 2PD of
manna and cannot be based on the Bible.
So the things that are wrong are that an Omer is defined as a volume
and if it were a weight, 2 pounds of any combination of any foods or
any food, from 2 pounds of chocolate to 2 pounds of Jello to 2 pounds
of bread to 2 pounds of meat or 2 pounds of oatmeal are NOT the same
as 2 pounds of manna, whatever exactly manna was.
But to Chung's mentality and way of thinking, the above is irrelevant
because it differs from his personal view. He is incapable of
recognizing that and will just make up new things to counter this.
is
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Doomedsatan
<><
May dear neighbors, friends, and brethren have a blessedly wonderful
2008th year since the birth of our LORD Jesus Christ as the Son of
Man ...
... by being hungrier:
http://TruthRUS.org/KnowingGOD
Hunger is wonderful:
It's how we know what GOD wants, which is what is good.
Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve
paid for with their and our immortal lives.
Those who suffer from the powerful delusion predicted by the prophecy
of 2 Thessalonians 2:9-11 would deny this and perish ( gone !!! )
forever ...
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyOne
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyTwo
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyThree
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyFour
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Bob
... gone:
http://YouTube.com/watch?v=Qb6d_z5C35E
Such will be the demise of all those who refuse to know **and** love
the truth, Who is LORD Jesus Christ:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love/TheTruth
Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/BeBlessed
"Blessed are you who hunger NOW...
... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)
Amen.
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Luke6_21
A simple parable for the wise and discerning:
Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be euglycemic:
http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/BeHealthy
What about for an omer placed in stable orbit?
I ask a serious question, and I get a "Fuck you"
in reply.
> I ask a serious question, and I get a "Fuck you"
> in reply.
Do you really expect an answer from Chung - that expectation is as
delusional as is Chung and you certainly do not seem to be delusional
Or dead from a brain tumor, which he predicted at
least a year ago.
> Or dead from a brain tumor, which he predicted at
> least a year ago.
Obviously you NOT being dead from a brain tumor is what God wants and
must be good.
Then who did he give my tumor to?
Maybe no one. Maybe Chung has a benign very slow growing brain tumor
that is causing his mental symptoms.
>Pastor Dave schrieb:
>
>> On Sun, 23 Mar 2008 05:37:41 +0100, Thorsten Schier
>> <use...@naturfoto-hamburg.de> spake thusly:
>>
>>
>>
>>>J666 schrieb:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Since the gravitational constant (g) depends on the square of the
>>>>distance from the center of the earth, the weight of an object
>>>>decreases with altitude.
>>>>
>>>>http://www.grc.nasa.gov/WWW/K-12/airplane/wteq.html
>>>
>>>The gravitational constant is called that way because it is a constant.
>>>It does not change with time or place.
>>
>>
>> Too bad it does. :)
>>
>
>It _so_ does not:
Well, you said so and after all, you have a web link
that says it doesn't, so I guess it must not, huh?!
After all, biased people would never say anything
that pats them on the back and scientists are god,
right friend?!
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> Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:
> "Blessed are you who hunger NOW...
"Be hungry and be healthy. (offer not valid in the continent of
Africa)" - Andrew Chung
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.flame.jesus.christ/msg/f1870d498c1c5671
of
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Despairingsatan
who remains
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Doomedsatan
<><
May dear neighbors, friends, and brethren have a blessedly wonderful
2008th year since the birth of our LORD Jesus Christ as the Son of
Man ...
... by being hungrier:
http://TruthRUS.org/KnowingGOD
Hunger is wonderful:
It's how we know what GOD wants, which is what is good.
Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve
paid for with their and our immortal lives.
Those who suffer from the powerful delusion predicted by the prophecy
of 2 Thessalonians 2:9-11 would deny this and perish ( gone !!! )
forever ...
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyOne
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyTwo
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyThree
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyFour
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Bob
... gone:
http://YouTube.com/watch?v=Qb6d_z5C35E
Such will be the demise of all those who refuse to know **and** love
the truth, Who is LORD Jesus Christ:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love/TheTruth
Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/BeBlessed
"Blessed are you who hunger NOW...
... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.flame.jesus.christ/msg/f1870d498c1c5671
On Mar 24, 11:32 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
> Lawful steward ofhttp://EmoryCardiology.com
Actually, by written textbook and dictionary definition, a
mathematical constant is not a variable.
You would have known this had you been guided by the Spirit of truth
rather than the spirit of error (ie self).
Bottom line:
You are pathologically untruthful.
This simply shows that the Holy Spirit is right to convict you:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
You really do not have much longer, dear neighbor Dave:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Prophecy
May you wisely choose to repent soon by publicly declaring with your
mouth that "Jesus is LORD:"
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/TheWay
May we, who are Jesus' disciples, continue to pray for your perishing
soul:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/PrayForDave
Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com
Then the tumor has achieved awareness.
Is this your way of helping him?
Are you a doctor?
~monkfish
Is this your way of helping him?
Are you a doctor as well?
~monkfish
Yes.
Shrink the Proetus, we're going in.
> Shrink the Proetus, we're going in.
Very good - also a shrink is a term for a psychiatrist so it is
doubly appropriate.
Didn't he just lie?
~monkfish
All the time:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Liarsatan
May you and other dear friends, brethren, and neighbors have a
... by being hungrier:
http://TruthRUS.org/KnowingGOD
Hunger is wonderful:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyOne
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyTwo
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyThree
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyFour
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Bob
... gone:
http://YouTube.com/watch?v=Qb6d_z5C35E
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love/TheTruth
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/BeBlessed
Amen.
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Luke6_21
Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be healthier:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.flame.jesus.christ/msg/b4fc52f3c9fa46f6
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Mar 18, 6:26 pm
Newsgroups: alt.flame.jesus.christ
From: "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <heartdo...@emorycardiology.com>
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 19:26:18 -0400
Local: Tues, Mar 18 2008 6:26 pm
Subject: No argument here
I realize I can't begin to refute anything said here, so I'll simply
post meaningless links to nonsense I spewed earlier.
As I wrote in my last posting: Please feel free to check Wikipedia with
an offline encyclopedia or a physics textbook. Obviously, you have not
done so, yet. Surely you own one of these books? If not, you should ask
yourself whether you really feel qualified to question what more
knowledgeable people than you have written on the subject.
Thorsten
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Squirmingsatan
Remember everyone:
"I realize I can't begin to refute anything said here, so I'll simply
post meaningless links to nonsense I spewed earlier." Chung
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.flame.jesus.christ/browse_thread/thread/768856a9f7a454a8#
Don't worry, you're right because you said so
and after all, no writings can be wrong! If they
say so, then it's right, period, right?!
The reality is, you read some material and don't
know what you're talking about, but you figure
that scientists are gods and can't be wrong and
are never biased, even though they don't all
agree with it. But hey, it's what you heard
and it's what most of them say and that's proof
enough for you!
Of course, if you had to go into this subject
in detail, you'd be lost. But why should that
matter, when you want to pretend you know
all about it?
--
In the beginning, God created...
And He did it in six days and said He did it
in six days (Exodus 20:11). Jesus believed
that and referenced it, in Matthew 19:3-8
and in other places. The original Hebrew
word for "day" ("yom"), is never used to mean
anything but a literal day in the Bible, when
a numerical adjective is present ("second, third,
etc.). Are we to believe that this is somehow
the one exception?
> In the beginning, God created...
Even Chung does not believe in God
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Newsgroups: alt.flame.jesus.christ
From: "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <heartdo...@emorycardiology.com>
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 00:21:09 -0400
Local: Sat, Mar 15 2008 11:21 pm
Subject: The God FAQ
http://www.400monkeys.com/God/index.html
Chung did The God FAQ"
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.flame.jesus.christ/msg/720037a207bfb15c
where he post this site
post:http://www.400monkeys.com/God/index.html
where that web page had:
THE OFFICIAL GOD FAQ
Question: "Is there a God?"
Answer: "No"