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Abd Allah Abd Allah

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Dec 19, 2011, 8:18:23 AM12/19/11
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hi ,

No one died for you !!!!!!


Did Jesus die for you ??? do you believe that ??


Muslims do not believe that , they believe in Jesus as a prophet and a
kindness man because the christianity base have a lot of
Contradictions


let me explain ,please see this video at :


http://www.rasoulallah.net/v2/document.aspx?lang=en&doc=13987


for more information about Quran ,Muhammad and Islam ,please visit :


http://sites.google.com/site/islamicsitesaddr/home/eng_version-2


http://islamicreli.blogspot.com/


thank you for your visiting


Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Dec 19, 2011, 9:42:41 AM12/19/11
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a Muslim neighbor wrote:

> hi ,
>
> No one died for you !!!!!!

It is written that Jesus Christ of Nazareth did put down His life for
His friends (John 15:13).

> Did Jesus die for you ???

Yes.

> do you believe that ??

Yes (John 3:16 and Roman 10:9).

And, also **know** it as a friend (John 15:14) of His, with all glory
to GOD:

http://WDJW.net

> Muslims do not believe that , they believe in Jesus as a prophet and a
> kindness man because the christianity base have a lot of
> Contradictions

It is written that **all** fall short of GOD's glory. This includes
Christians especially in the following YouTube video titled "Beware of
the loner" that was used in desperation by an eternally condemned and
accursed faux-christian against this physician (
http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ), who is not a loner simply because
physicians are by definition not loners:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfcEWZceWhI

"Be a good student of Scripture." -- False doctrine from an overweight
(John 5:14) Bible teacher

"Only One is good." -- Jesus Christ of Nazareth (Matthew 19:17)

"Be perfect, therefore, as your Heavenly Father is perfect." -- Jesus
Christ of Nazareth (Matthew 5:48)

"Be a **perfect** student of Scripture by being a disciple of our
risen LORD Jesus Christ of Nazareth." -- HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy
Spirit, referring to Matthew 28:19-20, ever mindful of WDJW, both
thinking/saying/writing **and** doing what the LORD wants with all
glory to GOD.

Here's another example of false Christian doctrine:

"Anyone can say 'Jesus is LORD'" -- False doctrine from a Bible
teacher cited by someone whose name has been blotted(Deu29:20) from
His Book(Deu32:33) of Life.

Source:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzNu5bC5hT0

"No one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit." -- Apostle
Paul (1 Corinthians 12:3)

Verification of 1 Corinthians 12:3 by this physician disciple (
http://JiL4ever.net ) of Christ ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lo53axJ4x1o

(Though the above featured religiously Christian children wanted to
say 'Jesus is LORD' for extra pieces of candy, they could not because
they needed to be born again per John 3:3 & 5 to become new creatures
http://WDJW.net/Forgiven by GOD per 2 Corinthians 5:17 so that He
would be their GOD per Ezekiel 11:19-20 & 36:26 and they would be His
children)

May GOD ever so severely curse to the Nth generation all who grieve
His Holy Spirit by teaching the false doctrine that "Anyone can say
'Jesus is LORD'" in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.

"Deaf-mutes obviously can't say anything much less say 'Jesus is LORD'
except by the Holy Spirit. Therefore, the statement 'Anyone can say
"Jesus is LORD"' has been logically proven to be false since anyone
would include deaf-mutes." -- HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit,
with all glory to GOD.

Suggested additional reading:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/5be9c7429d83a0d0?

Great Sage Itchy

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Dec 19, 2011, 12:54:34 PM12/19/11
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Usenet CREEP WARNING € Usenet CREEP WARNING €Usenet CREEP WARNING
ARROGANT SPAMMING ASSHOLE Andrew B. Chung is INSANE. Totally INSANE.
An extreme Egoist. He has NO spirituality, nothing but pure EGO.
His condition is PERMANENT, there is NO CURE.

Opposites Attract...
It is quite common for such people (the totally egocentric) to be
attracted to that which is opposite from them, Jesus and spirituality.
But camels will fly through the eye of a needle and cows will jump over
the moon before even a glint of the Holy Spirit enters the body of a
total EGOIST like Chung. Chung is extremely arrogant, self-righteous,
and delusional. Such people are evil and DANGEROUS. Stay far away.
€€WARNING€€WARNING€€WARNING€€WARNING€€

DO NOT FEED SICK ASSHOLE TROLLS.
There is NOTHING anyone can do for Chung. His condition is far beyond
any help. A diamond hard egoist, like Chung, is "always right", and
everyone else is "always wrong" in the delusional world they live in.
Soon enough, such defective people are cleaned from this world, usually
by violence or horrible disease. Such people are DANGEROUS, stay far
away.
€€WARNING€€WARNING€€WARNING€€WARNING€€

SEE EXAMPLES BELOW:

Totally ARROGANT EXTREME "Christian" EGOIST Chung FIRED again...
Ordered to leave or be removed by the POLICE!! - From a Church!!!
(nobody likes a totally arrogant, insane, self-righteous asshole/creep)
Transcript:

"Andrew Chung, my name is John Day and I'm the director of security at
First Baptist Church Woodstock (Georgia). Andrew, I need to inform you
that you're not allowed to come back to our campus. I don't want you to
show up this weekend, I don't want you to come back, okay? That's the
decision we're making today. And you need to know if you do come back,
we'll remove you from the property and beyond that, if you come back, I
will call the police. Andrew, lets allow this to end peacefully. Allow
it to end right now. Thank you and have a good day."

Chung video response ("GodTube"):
http://www.godtube.com/watch/?v=JEBB9CNU

First Baptist Church of Woodstock
Pastor Johnny M. Hunt
11905 Georgia 92
Woodstock, GA 30188
(770) 926-4428
u...@fbcw.net
www.fbcw.org
Twitter: @fbcwoodstock
http://www.facebook.com/home.php?sk=group_18809369051
--------------------------------------

Chung FIRED after 80 days employment at the Central Florida Heart
Center (CFHC) by head of Cardiology: Dr. Frank Hildner MD:

Dr. Frank Hildner MD wrote the following letter to Andrew B. Chung:

Dr. Chung:
Any comments I make at this time are mine alone and do not necessarily
reflect the views of CFHC.

After going through this difficult time with you, I understand that you
are probably not interested in anything I have to say. Also, I believe
what I do say will probably be twisted or interpreted by you to suit
your purposes. For that reason I will be as direct and declarative as
possible.

Your website comments about cardiology in Ocala, FL are detractions and
border on slander. These are legal terms, and one of the important
features of them is that the comments are published. Your website
fulfills that requirement. Now just reflect on the fact that you are
the only one to make such insinuations or allegations. Any reasonable
person seeing these things may justifiably conclude that it is you that
is out of step, not the other 15 or 20 cardiologists in Ocala. As I
have in the past, I am trying to get you to see the reality of the
situation from outside your head. You have chosen to ignore the good
advice I tried to give while you were here. I hope you will soon
realize you are doing yourself more harm than good by publishing your
dispute. It would be better to let it go, before your reputation
suffers more.

Speaking of reputations, I have spent 35 years building mine. I can
call on physicians from around the world and this community to attest
to it. I can also call upon the many physicians I trained to do cardiac
catheterization (over 25 years) to offer a positive opinion about my
work. You can't. Being just out of training, you have no reputation
except the one you have just established here in Ocala. You are
continuing to establish your reputation by publishing your website. How
do you think what you have said would look to another physician-perhaps
an employer- when he reads it? Do you think he or anyone would conclude
that you are a reputable physician, easy to work with and a team
player?

Personally, if I find that you speak disparagingly of me, or my work to
any patient or physician, be assured I will not take the matter
lightly. Whatever you think of me personally, or whatever you think of
my professional activity, you do not have the right to condemn either
me or the work to another and thereby compromise my reputation. You may
disagree with me, or state we have a difference of opinion, but you may
not state that I am practicing less than optimum cardiology. Once
again, if I find that you have done so (and I hope it has not happened
yet) I will certainly take the matter to the State Board of Medicine
for a hearing. If the Florida State Board finds cause, and renders a
censure, that must be transmitted to all other State Boards on your
next and all future applications for licensure. And once again, just
common sense should tell you that hitting back in your situation is
counterproductive and could be disastrous for you. But as I told you
face to face, you may have great book smarts, but your actions have
shown that you have no common sense that permits you to operate
successfully in a professional community. And, once again, I will tell
you what I did before, you do not operate in a vacuum. Your practice,
wherever it may be, must be according to the community standard,
regardless of what you perceive that to be. And an attitude that you
vocalized by saying that you were unable to change the community
standard in Ocala speaks loudly and clearly about your perception of
reality and your inability to work with your colleagues.

Dr. Chung, I urgently advise you to let the past go. Look to your
future which could be bright. If you persist in these efforts of
hitting back and trying to justify your actions to a world that looks
upon such attempts as childish or immature and unprofessional, you will
continue to do yourself a disservice. You lost your job because you
talked yourself out of it.

Frank Hildner MD
Central Florida Heart Ctr
3310 SW 34th St
Ocala, FL


WHAT OTHERS SAY ABOUT ANDREW B. CHUNG:
---------------------------------------------------------------------
"Chung fucked me in the ass. I trusted him, and he fucked me in the
ass." -Michael C.
"Chung Is unemployed after being sacked with cause from his one and
only job after just over 80 days. Fled the state of Florida, and now
claims to practice in Georgia despite having no admission priveliges in
the State's hospitals." -Shlomo F.
"Chung runs a phony foundation with a total declared income of circa
$200, the ownership and contact details of which are obfuscated on its
website. Visiting said website will infect your PC." -S.F.
"Chung promotes a dangerous diet, with a million dollar guarantee that
he demands thirty dollars to access details of. This despite being
unemployed. His soliciting and spamming for donations looks to be
similar to the "Nigerian Advance Fee Fraud", where victims pay money
upfront in the hope of coming into riches but find they have merely
bought into a lie. Part of his advice is to pour nail polish remover*
onto food. (*Acetone - extremely destructive to the nervous sys.)
"Declares he has a cardiology practice despite cross-posting the same
spam night and day (as often as 24 times a day) from the same IP
address (his home presumably).'
"Chung has a tendency to cyberstalk, particularly women and gay or
trans-gender males. His wife of four months fled some time ago to
another state, an act which Chung tries to pass off as "being on
vacation".
"Everyone familiar with Andrew B. Chung knows he is a sick asshole.
Even his parents. He knows he is a sick asshole (street term for
EGOIST). There is NOTHING "spiritual" about him. He has absolutely NO
HOPE of real spirituality. In fact, he is the opposite of spirituality,
ALL EGO, and NOTHING BUT EGO. Chung has no real friends, and never
will. No one wants to be around a TOTAL ASSHOLE. His only hope is to
try to learn how real humans behave by observation, then pretend to be
like them. He will always be a total asshole, but he will learn to hide
it and fake being a real human. He will not fool a real human for long,
but will have something that resembles a human life. There is no other
way for him. His condition (total arrogance) is permanent. His life
will go badly, and end ugly. A total egoist, like Chung, will NEVER
admit to any imperfection, but Chung knows that most of this is true."
-GSI
"Another very sad lunatic ranting garbage he knows nothing about..
wasting his life in vanity and thinking anybody cares or even bothers
to read his garbage." -G. Snow
"Chung, the people you arrogantly attack here in these groups are
saints compared to you. You are a supreme EGOIST. You do not qualify
for human status, and never will. Even dogs or pigs are higher than
you. You should be living with crocodiles. Stay away from these groups.
Your total ARROGANCE is ugly and disgusting. It's highly disturbing to
be constantly reminded that this world produces such sick and arrogant
creeps." - Great Sage Itchy
Chung wrote: "retired physician and cardiac patient Frank Hildner wrote
in part as a retireeŠ" and Ecifer responded: "The good doctor
(Hildner) is recognized as one of the preeminent cardiologists in the
world, while Chunk is flailing away on Usenet with no practice and no
hospital admitting privileges."

The sayings of Andrew B. Chung, Emory University:
--------------------------------------------------------------
"... no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit." (1 Cor
12:3). Can you say 'Jesus is LORD'? Can you also say 'Muhammad was a
goat-fucking son of SATAN?'
"This gentile Christian disciple reminds friends that the name 'Quran',
as translated from original Arabic, means: 'Goat-fucking for dummies' "
"We are running in a competitive race that has already been won by the
risen Christ Jesus, Who because of His victory sits at the right hand
of GOD the Father. The prize for running this race well is a place in
Heaven that is closer to GOD. Heaven is a very large place and GOD's
House in Heaven is a very big house. Let our place in Heaven not be
outside the House." -Andrew B. Chung
"It has been the observation of this bona-fide licensed physician that
negros are actually big monkeys with large sex organs."
"The LORD may possibly give us a sign 3 weeks from today (1/23/2010) to
further humble us as He did back in 9/11/2001. GOD is awesome. Fear the
LORD and dread nought else." -Andrew B. Chung
"And you and the other evildoers have been tossed into that lake of
fire that has been prepared for you while the rest of us are enjoying a
new Heaven and new Earth in our new glorified bodies like those of
angels." - Andrew B. Chung
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" wrote: "May GOD curse to the Nth generation
all the real humans who presently know the identity of the person
behind the lying sockpuppet here, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen. Laus Deo :-) "
"Death to the Godless imperialist war-mongers of the Communist Party of
China."
"Death to the fascist bandit Hu Jintao, and his running dogs, the
Communist Party of China."
"Death to the murderer Deng Xiaoping, of Hu Yaobang and Chinese freedom.
Freedom for the people of Tibet - Long live the Dali Lama"

"May GOD annihilate you at your keyboard if you try to pretend to be
Him again, in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen." -Andrew B.
Chung

"Chung-First Baptist Church-Police" v1.8
----------------------------------------------------------------
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Chung FIRED again" />
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Chung on YouTube:
-------------------------
Runaway Groom... The story of Chung's wedding:
Lady-boy Chung's wedding is broken-up by his former gay lover,
who runs off with the groom, leaving Chung (white wedding dress) in the
lurch.
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJr-n0B1r3w>

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJr-n0B1r3w

--------------------------
Part-1
Lady-boy, "Dongdan" (Cross-dresser) Videos
Andrew B Chung *****: Hot date make-up tutorial!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J__Iv8FQdYY

Part-2 Chung (AKA "Ms. High Heels") ready for action.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7H_M-APuak
--------------------------

Chung (rated 5-stars): His most revealing photoshoot ever!
(With very nice jungle (drum and bass) soundtrack)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elEdGAd4RB4
----------------------------------------------------------------

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Dec 20, 2011, 1:19:29 AM12/20/11
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a Muslim neighbor wrote:

> hi ,
>
> No one died for you !!!!!!

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/0057d1b39952cf98?

It is written that Jesus Christ of Nazareth did put down His life for
His friends (John 15:13).

> Did Jesus die for you ???

Yes.

> do you believe that ??

Yes (John 3:16 and Roman 10:9).

And, also **know** it as a friend (John 15:14) of His, with all glory
to GOD:

http://WDJW.net

>Muslims do not believe that , they believe in Jesus as a prophet and a
>kindness man because the christianity base have a lot of
>Contradictions

It is written that **all** fall short of GOD's glory. This includes
Christians especially in the following YouTube video titled "Beware of
the loner" that was used in desperation by an eternally condemned and
accursed faux-christian against this physician ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc
), who is not a loner simply because physicians are by definition not
loners:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfcEWZceWhI

"Be a good student of Scripture." -- False doctrine from an overweight
Bible teacher

"Only One is good." -- Jesus Christ of Nazareth (Matthew 19:17)

"Be perfect, therefore, as your Heavenly Father is perfect." -- Jesus
Christ of Nazareth (Matthew 5:48)

"Be a **perfect** student of Scripture by being a disciple of our
risen LORD Jesus Christ of Nazareth." -- HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy
Spirit, referring to Matthew 28:19-20, ever mindful of WDJW, both
thinking/saying/writing **and** doing what the LORD wants with all
glory to GOD.

Here's another example of false Christian doctrine:

"Anyone can say 'Jesus is LORD'" -- False doctrine from Bible teacher

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Dec 21, 2011, 5:06:00 AM12/21/11
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Bible teacher in a blue shirt

"Only One is good." -- Jesus Christ of Nazareth (Matthew 19:17)

Yes, doing good works does not make us good. The only One Who can make
us good is the only One Who is good and He would do this when He says
we are good. Moreover, the overweight false Bible teacher in the blue
shirt is not doing good works by teaching false doctrine for all to
see via YouTube so GOD would call him an evildoer instead of a good
servant on His Day of Judgement.

May GOD continue to curse all who call themselves good, in the name of

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Dec 23, 2011, 8:11:12 PM12/23/11
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someone whose name's been blotted(Deu29:20) from His Book(Deu32:33)
wrote:
>
> Suggested Reading for Andrew B. Chung:
>
> NIMH (National Institute of Mental Health) Eating Disorders:
> http://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/publications/eating-disorders/complete-index.shtml

"An eating disorder is an illness that causes serious disturbances to
your everyday diet, such as eating extremely small amounts of food or
severely overeating."

Therefore, eating the right amount, which is 32 oz of daily food, is
the absolutely farthest a person can be from an eating disorder just
as the farthest one can travel into a city is downtown.

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/0a1d98b5083dfcc7?

someone whose name has been blotted from GOD's Book of Life wrote:
>
> <burp> we had a Thanksgiving buffet at the fellowship I attend Sunday
> eve, and I'm still feeling the effects.

Your severely overeating does indicate that you have been cursed by
GOD with an eating disorder:

"An eating disorder is an illness that causes serious disturbances to
your everyday diet, such as eating extremely small amounts of food or
severely overeating."

Source:
http://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/publications/eating-disorders/complete-index.shtml

> I'd like to see Doc Andy at one of those, holding up the line by
> weighing each portion of turkey and trimmings while making his
> calculations

This physician ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ) weighs his meal (not
individual food items) right before giving thanks to the LORD for the
**amount** in ounces that He has provided and concluding by saying
"Jesus Christ is LORD" so that all would be encouraged that this is
being done in the Holy Spirit on a daily basis:

http://www.facebook.com/pages/WDJW/196255898065

Just as the "hunger is starvation" lie (Genesis 25:32) caused Esau to
be accursed (Malachi 1:2-3) to the Nth generation so that they've all
been blotted out of GOD's Book of Life the same has happened to
you ...

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/29c54da667a5fa0f?

Bottom line concerning you:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/be51c482109ff735?

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Jan 1, 2012, 8:58:11 PM1/1/12
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Brian Gene Kelley, PhD

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Jan 1, 2012, 11:16:19 PM1/1/12
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Dodi Westman wrote:
> Moo wrote:
>
> > The 2KD Method is the best.
> > I have enjoyed endlessly wonderful results with it for several years now
>
> > > Fred Farcus wrote:
>
> > >> Yes indeed! The 2KD (2 Kilogram Diet) Method is the *only* way to eat
> > >> properly
>
> > > Right you are Fred!
>
> I have been applying the 2KD-HEALTHY Method for over a year now. 2 kg (give or take) is
> the right amount of daily food intake in my opinion. I am wonderfully
> full without being hungry! :-)

Indeed, it is smarter to hold to the right amount, which is
approximately 2 kilograms (4.4 lbs/70 oz) of daily food, thereby
stopping the undereating without harmfully overeating.

Yes, right amount and right type: 2KD-HEALTHY Method; approximately
2kg of lean meats, whole grains, vegetables and fruits, avoiding
animal fat, sugar and processed foods, as
Fred Farcus, MOO, **and** Dodi Westman are doing is both sophisticated
and smarter, especially because no weighing is needed :-))) Remember,
regarding the type of food you eat... if man made it, stay away from
it.

http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/msg/ef05ac78d97a3894?hl=en

Dodi Westman wrote:
> > https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.199971148065.167331.196255898065&type=3
>
> Yuck! Hundreds of pictures of hundreds of plates stacked with
> unhealthy junk food.

Gross! Looks like almost all processed foods full of fat, sugar and
starch. Very little nutritional value seen there. Just mainly empty
calories.

http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/msg/329f4a62a3cf5a57?hl=en

Better to:

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=CNG.c7aaeb7940626693fa418a1eab2291f6.81

Be fuller, which really is wonderfully healthier:

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/thediethound/blog/2009/06/28/fat-people-are-much-healthier-than-thin-people

Because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart, that all
have a full stomach, full of **nutritious foods**.

--

Brian Gene Kelley, PhD

"Myth: You Can't Be Overweight and Healthy"
http://www.obesitymyths.com/myth4.1.htm

"Study: Overweight People Live Longer"
http://www.webmd.com/diet/news/20090625/study-overweight-people-live-longer

"Starvation and Hunger, Humankind's Constant Companions"
http://gherkinstomatoes.com/2009/11/10/14837/

"Stop Hunger Now"
http://www.stophungernow.org/site/PageServer

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Paul is not talking about just saying the words "Jesus is Lord".
Anyone can say that. Even demons can say it through people whom they
have possessed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LL7AhTdZHas

**again**

Anyone can say insincerely say "Jesus is Lord".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpH28urOlqE

***and***

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfcEWZceWhI

"To avoid being influenced by false doctrine is, number one:
Be on guard against a loner when it comes to Biblical interpretation.
People who say that they have the truth and they're alone in it and
they're creating new ideas. A lone individual who claims to have some
kind of revelation which is actually false doctrine blended with
truth. We have to be careful of these individuals who claim to have
the Holy Spirit, but they are out of harmony with historic true
doctrine.

Second, become a good student of Scripture... with other Bible
studying Christians. Not alone only. It's not wrong to study the
Scriptures alone, but studying with other Bible studying Christians,
interacting with other Bible studying Christians, mentors, on full
time regular basis, in order to avoid some kind of strange
interpretation of Scripture." Dr. Gene Getz
http://www.oneplace.com/ministries/renewal-radio/

GysdeJongh

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Brian Gene Kelley, PhD wrote:
> Dodi Westman wrote:
>> Moo wrote:

>> I have been applying the 2KD-HEALTHY Method for over a year now. 2
>> kg (give or take) is the right amount of daily food intake in my
>> opinion. I am wonderfully
>> full without being hungry! :-)


> http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=CNG.c7aaeb7940626693fa418a1eab2291f6.81


In this article it was found that (for Asian people) you live shorter when
your BMI is on the low side of the range considered healthy.

This efect is due to smoking. Smokers are both thinner and live shorter. If
the study is repeated on people who never smoked then, also for elderly
people, the thin people live the longest.


J Am Geriatr Soc. 2011 Jun;59(6):1003-11. doi:
10.1111/j.1532-5415.2011.03419.x. Epub 2011 Jun 7.
Does excess body fat maintained after the seventh decade decrease life
expectancy?
Singh PN, Haddad E, Tonstad S, Fraser GE.
Source
Department of Epidemiology and Biostatistics, School of Public Health, Loma
Linda University, Loma Linda, California 92350, USA. psi...@llu.edu
Abstract
OBJECTIVES:
To determine whether the attenuation in risk of death due to excess body fat
seen in most studies of older adults may be due to confounding, the
relationship between adiposity and mortality was examined in adults who
never smoked, were free of major chronic diseases, and maintained stable
weight over long periods.
DESIGN:
Prospective cohort study.
SETTING:
The Adventist Health Study and Adventist Mortality Study in California.
PARTICIPANTS:
Six thousand thirty adults aged 25 to 82 who had never smoked and had no
history of coronary heart disease, cancer, or stroke.
MEASUREMENTS:
During 29 years of follow-up, anthropometric data were collected at baseline
and 17 years later, and mortality surveillance continued for 12 years
thereafter. Data were analyzed using survival analysis with attained age as
the time variable.
RESULTS:
Instantaneous hazard plots indicated that men with a body mass index (BMI)
greater than 22.3 kg/m2 and women with a BMI greater than 27.4 kg/m2 had a
greater mortality risk through the ninth decade than those with lower BMI.
For men aged 75 to 99 who maintained stable body weight, a BMI greater than
22.3 kg/m2 was associated with a 3.7-year (95% confidence interval
(CI)=1.1-6.3) shorter life expectancy and significantly greater mortality
(hazard ratio (HR)=1.88, 95% CI=1.16-3.04, for BMI=22.3-27.3 kg/m2; HR=2.00,
95% CI=1.01-3.97 for BMI>27.3 kg/m2; reference, BMI≤22.3 kg/m2). For women
aged 75 to 99 who maintained stable body weight, a BMI greater than 27.4
kg/m2 was associated with a 2.1-year (95% CI=0.5-3.8) shorter life
expectancy and significantly greater mortality (HR=1.12, 95% CI=0.80-1.58
for BMI<20.6 kg/m2; HR=1.41, 95% CI=1.05-1.89 for BMI>27.4 kg/m2; reference,
BMI 20.6-27.4 kg/m2).
CONCLUSION:
Excess body fat maintained after the seventh decade decreases life
expectancy but appears to be less lethal in women.
© 2011, Copyright the Authors. Journal compilation © 2011, The American
Geriatrics Society.
PMID: 21649624

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