Juan Williams put it simply: “I was fired for telling the truth.”
That’s about as succinct a summary of the situation as you’re likely
to find. NPR CEO Vivian Schiller terminated Williams’ contract because
he veered off of the leftist reservation, and to make things even
worse from Shiller’s point of view, he did it on Fox. If Williams is
one of the tens of millions of Americans who gets nervous when he’s
around people dressed in Muslim garb, NPR believes that he ought not
mention it, or – as Schiller said [1] – he should discuss his problems
with “his psychiatrist or his publicist.” Schiller would eventually
apologize for that demeaning insult, but it’s far too late for NPR to
recover from this fiasco. Liberals, conservatives and even some Muslim
groups expressed shock and disgust over this assault on free speech
and open discussion.
Williams’ sin, according to NPR, was that expressing his personal
feelings [2] violated NPR’s code of conduct that forbids their on-air
talent from taking a position on “controversial issues,” from
participating “…in shows that encourage punditry and speculation
rather than fact-based analysis” and from expressing opinions on other
shows that “…they would not air in their role as an NPR journalist.”
At least that’s the official version, as expressed in an internal memo
[3] that Schiller wrote explaining her decision. One suspects that the
Council on American Islamic Relations had something to do with it as
well. CAIR was outraged by Williams’ remarks [4]. In a statement, CAIR
said that “NPR should address the fact that one of its news analysts
seems to believe that all airline passengers who are perceived to be
Muslim can legitimately be viewed as security threats.”
Well, yeah. Political correctness may demand that we subject 80 year-
old Swedish grandmothers to the same level of scrutiny at the airport
that we do to young Muslim males, but we know – beyond doubt – which
demographic represents a potential threat and which does not. Tarek
Fatah, founder of the Muslim Canadian Congress, acknowledged this
basic truth, pointing to the fact that most victims of Islamic
terrorism are Muslims and that even a Muslim woman wearing a burka is
a potential threat. “We are victims of these guys. A number of suicide
bombers who have attacked have killed people [while] wearing the
burka,” Fatah said. “This is the truth, we should be speaking the
truth rather than what people expect us to say.” Yet, NPR cut Juan
Williams loose for expressing his personal opinion, and – worse – for
expressing a personal opinion that is entirely reasonable and rests on
a solid foundation of fact.
This is another example of what the left has become [5]. They are, to
paraphrase William F. Buckley, interested in your opinion so long as
that opinion dovetails with their worldview. They’re not liberals, not
even remotely in the classical sense. Classical liberalism encouraged
debate and welcomed the intellectual enrichment that grew out of
discussions of opposing viewpoints. The left, of which NPR is
unquestionably a part, believes that it is the sole gatekeeper of
truth, thus removing any obligation to consider other views. Even if
Vivian Schiller’s hypothesis were true – that NPR personalities don’t
opine, only guests on their programs do – it would not matter.
Somebody has to choose what guests to interview. Somebody has to
decide on the questions to ask them. Somebody has to figure out which
interviews NPR will feature and how to edit them. All of these
decisions involve people who have personal opinions about the way the
world works and their decisions reflect it. If you’ve spent any time
listening to NPR, you can’t have any doubt that the people making
those editorial decisions are leftist through and through. Thus, their
demand that on-air personalities remain “neutral” is meaningless. NPR,
like every other media outlet, is not neutral. The decision-makers
have an agenda, at NPR and everywhere. The difference between NPR and
outlets like Fox and MSNBC is that taxpayers fund NPR’s ideological
bent, instead of letting the free market figure it out.
Williams’ appearances on Fox have annoyed the left for a long time,
which is odd considering the fact that the left constantly berates Fox
for being too one-sided. It’s beyond disingenuous to suggest that
Williams was stoking the fires of what the left considers to be
irrational Islamophobia during his discussion with Bill O’Reilly. In a
passionate defense [6] of his actions published at Fox News Williams
wrote: “I made it clear that all Americans have to be careful not to
let fears lead to violation of anyone’s constitutional rights, be it
to build a mosque, carry the Koran or drive a New York cab without
fear having your throat slashed. Bill and I argued after I said he has
to take care in the way he talks about the 9/11 attacks so as not to
provoke bigotry.
This was an honest, sensitive debate hosted by O’Reilly.” These are
not the words of a racist, these are rather the sober thoughts of a
man who has devoted a large portion of his life to fighting racism.
His conclusion, that “…there is no doubt that there’s a real war and
people are trying to kill us” is ultimately what caused NPR, CAIR and
so much of the left to be so deeply distressed. It’s bad enough when
“right wing nut-jobs” point out such obvious facts, how dare one of
their own jump on the bandwagon.
“…[M]y comments on “The O’Reilly Factor” are being distorted by the
self-righteous ideological, left-wing leadership at NPR,” Williams
wrote. “They are taking bits and pieces of what I said to go after me
for daring to have a conversation with leading conservative thinkers.
They loathe the fact that I appear on Fox News. They don’t notice that
I am challenging Bill O’Reilly and trading ideas with Sean Hannity. In
their hubris they think by talking with O’Reilly or Hannity I am
lending them legitimacy. Believe me, Bill O’Reilly (and Sean, too) is
a major force in American culture and politics whether or not I appear
on his show.”
When the left drives a fellow like Juan Williams, a man who subscribes
to their way of thinking in so many ways, out of their camp they’ve
done nothing but to make themselves all the more irrelevant. Like that
other bastion of left-wing heterodoxy, Media Matter For America [7],
NPR has shown that it’s ready and willing to write off anyone who
doesn’t subscribe to their version of “Goodthink” in the slightest
particular. According to NPR policy, “…NPR journalists should not
express views they would not air in their role as an NPR
journalist.” , NPR has shown that it’s ready and willing to write off
anyone who doesn’t subscribe to their version of “Goodthink” in the
slightest particular. According to NPR policy, “…NPR journalists
should not express views they would not air in their role as an NPR
journalist.” Williams relates that his boss at NPR, Ellen Weiss,
specifically asked him if he would have expressed his opinion
regarding Muslims on NPR. “I said yes,” Williams wrote “because in
keeping with my values I will tell people the truth about feelings and
opinions.” Apparently telling the truth about your feelings and
opinions doesn’t matter at NPR, at least if those feelings and
opinions aren’t in rigid lockstep with this tax-payer funded, left-
wing media outlet’s game-plan.
http://frontpagemag.com/2010/10/22/nprs-disgrace/
URLs in this post:
[1] as Schiller said:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2010/10/21/npr_ceo_williams_views_should_stay_between_himself_and_his_psychiatrist.html
[2] expressing his personal feelings:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/10/21/npr-fires-juan-williams-oreilly-appearance/
[3] an internal memo: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/10/21/raw-data-npr-internal-memo-juan-williams/
[4] CAIR was outraged by Williams’ remarks:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2010/10/21/juan_williams_npr_fired_him_for_making_bigoted_statement.html
[5] the left has become: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/10/21/brief-history-nprs-intolerance-imbalance/
[6] passionate defense: http://www.thefoxnation.com/juan-williams/2010/10/21/juan-williams-i-was-fired-telling-truth
[7] Media Matter For America: http://mediamatters.org/blog/200902130007
By Rich Trzupek On October 22, 2010
Juan Williams put it simply: �I was fired for telling the truth.�
========================================
If an employee doesn't follow the employers rules he get fired. Duh?
- If an employee doesn't follow the employers rules
- he get fired.
- Duh?
.
=WRT= Employer & Employee Job Rights and Duties
Pug Simp,
Point-of-Fact : Juan Williams was NOT On-the-Job
at NPR at the Time : Juan Williams was On-the-Job
at FOX News at the Time.
Oops - FOX News Did NOT Fire Juan Williams
for What He Said On-the-Job at FOX News.
oops,,, Oops... OOPS ! ! ! - NPR Did in-fact FIRE
Juan Williams for What He Said Off-the-Job !
- = That's a Clear Case of Wrongful Termination = -
.
NO Freedom-of-Speech at "Vivian Schiller"s NPR :
NPR a Culture of Liberal-Fascist Censorship !
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/7a7387730b574c2f
.
NPR Board -do-the-right-thing- and Pay Juan
Williams 5-Years Salary as "Fair and Just
Compensation" for this 'Wrongful Termination'.
.
NPR Board -do-the-right-thing- FIRE "Vivian Schiller"
the NPR CEO because She Has Created a Culture
of Liberal-Fascist Media Censorship at NPR !
.
Wake-Up : Juan Williams 'Firing' By NPR Is A Clear
Open-and-Shut Case of "Liberal-Fascism" Today !
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/a9d389a8efc1ba32
.
Pug Simp - Thank You For This Opportunity To
Clear-Up Your Misconceptions About NPR's
'Wrongful Termination' of Juan Williams who is
by-all-rights an African-American and a
Hispanic-America who was FIRED by the NPR
CEO; a White Liberal {Fascist} Women.
.
Where Is The US Congressional Black Caucus ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congressional_Black_Caucus
? Why Aren't They Defending Juan Williams' Freedom-of-Speech ?
? Why Aren't They Investigating Racism at NPR ?
? Why Aren't They Getting Juan Williams' Job Back ?
? Why Aren't They Calling For De-Funding NPR ?
? Why Aren't They Asking For Vivian Schiller's Removal ?
? WHY ? WHY ? WHY ? WHY ? WHY ?
? Why Is The US Congressional Black Caucus Silent ?
.
.
Point of fact -- a private employer can fire an employee for virtually
any reason, moron.
- Point of fact -- a private employer can fire an
- employee for virtually any reason, moron.
WR - "moron" ? ? ?
.
- - - = = = RHF's Canned Reply 'Rant' = = = - - -
[>: To Liberal-Fascist {Democrat} Name Calling :<]
ROTFL - You Know When You Are Winning An Argument :
When a Super-Smart "Enlightened" Liberal Starts Name Calling*.
* They Lose Their Ability To Think And Get Emotional - rotfl ~ RHF
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/318979fbe8546cfa
+ Plus They Often Snip/Delete What You Wrote To
Disguise Their Inability To Carry The Argument Forward.
.
ROTFL : "NPR" a 'private employer'
-hint- National Public Radio -oops- 'Public'
-note- Even the NPR Ombudsman said that
the NPR Firing of Juan Williams was an Error.
.
NPR Sets a New Standard for 'Liberal-Fascist' Censorship
in the Media -by- Firing Juan Williams !
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/75ec08943813f11a
.
NPR's Disgrace a Culture of 'Liberal-Fascist' Media Censorship !
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/662d568b3c61b8b5
.
NOTE that Juan Williams Firing By NPR is a Clear
Open-and-Shut Case of "Liberal-Fascism" Today
.
NO Freedom-of-Speech at National Public Radio :
NPR a Culture of "Liberal-Fascist" Censorship !
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/5082470af445db82
.
US Congress Investigate The 'Wrongful Firing'
of Juan Williams; and Hold "Vivian Schiller"
Accountable !
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/b15da8e14d87a2ce
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/a3be89610aa4331b
.
NPR Board -do-the-right-thing- and Pay Juan Williams
5-Years Salary as "Fair and Just Compensation"
for this 'Wrongful Termination'
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/6e8a431c73556a63
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/a5e8cf59e432444f
.
NO Freedom-of-Speech at NPR : Fire NPR CEO
"Vivian Schiller" She Has Created a Culture of
Liberal-Fascist Censorship at NPR !
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/0dd13cfc2bf4b6fb
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/e26a929b85bbd657
.
NO Freedom-of-Speech at "Vivian Schiller"s NPR :
Do You Agree -or- Disagree With Juan Williams
-wrt- "Anxiety" & "Fear" Post 9-11?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/7a7387730b574c2f
.
NO Freedom-of-Speech at "Vivian Schiller"s NPR :
NPR Violates Juan Williams' Unalienable "Human" Rights !
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/0784bf63e9b937f5
.
WR - Thank You For This Opportunity To Clear-Up
Your Misconceptions About NPR's 'Wrongful
Termination' of Juan Williams who is by-all-rights
an African-American and a Hispanic-America who
was FIRED by the NPR CEO; a White Liberal
{Fascist} Women.
.
Where Is The US Congressional Black Caucus ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congressional_Black_Caucus
http://www.thecongressionalblackcaucus.com/
Since Juan Williams is an African-America . . .
? Why Aren't They Defending Juan Williams' Freedom-of-Speech ?
? Why Aren't They Investigating Racism at NPR ?
? Why Aren't They Getting Juan Williams' Job Back ?
? Why Aren't They Calling For De-Funding NPR ?
? Why Aren't They Asking For Vivian Schiller's Removal ?
? WHY ? WHY ? WHY ? WHY ? WHY ?
? Why Is The US Congressional Black Caucus Silent ?
Hello Chairwoman of the Congressional Black Caucus
Barbara Lee have you called and talked to Juan Williams
about His 'Wrongful Termination' {Firing} by the NPR CEO ?
http://lee.house.gov/
.
Where Is The US Congressional Hispanic Caucus ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congressional_Hispanic_Caucus
http://chc.velazquez.house.gov/
Since Juan Williams is a Hispanic-America . . .
? Why Aren't They Defending Juan Williams' Freedom-of-Speech ?
? Why Aren't They Investigating Racism at NPR ?
? Why Aren't They Getting Juan Williams' Job Back ?
? Why Aren't They Calling For De-Funding NPR ?
? Why Aren't They Asking For Vivian Schiller's Removal ?
? WHY ? WHY ? WHY ? WHY ? WHY ?
? Why Is The US Congressional Hispanic Caucus Silent ?
Hello Chairwoman of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus
Nydia Velázquez have you called and talked to Juan Williams
about His 'Wrongful Termination' {Firing} by the NPR CEO ?
http://www.house.gov/velazquez/
.
NPR is not FOX and won't be.
>
> Point of fact -- a private employer can fire an employee for virtually
> any reason, moron.
Any legal reason. You cannot be fired for engaging in a protected activity.
You can be fired for anything -- any reason. If you feel aggrieved,
you might try to sue, but good luck on that. The burden of proof is on
the eomployee and the vast majority of suits for wrongful dimissal go
right down the toilet. The general law is that as a wage earner all
your employer owes you is the pay for the hours worked. As it stands,
Williams hasn't any grounds whatsoever to claim wrongful dismissal.
Now, had he been fired for trying to organize a union, he might have
some grounds for reinstatement, but nothing he did was that heroic. He
was fired for expressing a gross prejudice towards a large class of
individuals. No court in the country wouldtake his complaint
seriously.
Why does Rightardia care about this, anyway? None of you give a flying
damn for Williams. Is it just to put a stick in NPR's eye? Why? NPR
has faithfully reported on and given voice to conservative viewpoints
throughout the years. I would think you Rightards would appreciate
having your viewpoints elevated to the level of semi-intelligent
thought.
CAIR can say whatever it wants, but Juan Williams brazenly violated
NPR policy and he was fired for it. It's that simple. Williams
abandoned journalism for inane punditry and he paid the price for it.
He was fired for the same reason an employee of a high end scotch
whiskey maker would get fired if he was caught appearing in a TV spot
for Jerry's Bathtub Gin.
- Why does Rightardia care about this, anyway?
- None of you give a flying damn for Williams.
FWIW -imho- At NPR Juan Williams often was
the 'contrarian' {the yeah-but guy*} in any
NPR discussion . . .
* The moderating voice among liberals
. . . and at FOX News Juan Williams often has
been the 'contrarian' {the yeah-but guy} in
any FOX discussion
* The moderating voice among conservatives
Therefore in either situation Juan Williams
added to the real Dialog and provoked honest
Discussion; not just a lot of me-too-isms . . .
.
.
NPR's Disgrace a Culture of 'Liberal-Fascist'
Media Censorship !
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/662d568b3c61b8b5
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/6e5ed7b0d8fcd517
- Is it just to put a stick in NPR's eye?
Any Public Reproach of NPR and it's CEO of this
Clear Case of 'Liberal-Fascist' Media Censorship
is simply an attempt to insure the Civil Rights
and Employment Equality for All by a Semi-Public
Corporate Entity.
Justice For Juan Williams -IS- Justice For All.
?Q? : Why Is The US Congressional Black Caucus
Silent as NPR Violates Juan Williams' Unalienable
"Human" Rights !
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/17b203cee6bddd09
.
.
- Why? NPR has faithfully reported on and
- given voice to conservative viewpoints
- throughout the years.
That may be your 'opinion' but it is NOT Shared
by many/most of the Radio Listening Public : Who
choose to NOT Listen to NPR because they 'feel'
NPR is way-too "Liberal" and Biased; in both it's
Content and Coverage of Political Events and the
News \S\L\A\N\T\E\D\
-translation- Slanted to the Left
- I would think you Rightards would appreciate
- having your viewpoints elevated to the level
- of semi-intelligent thought.
Clearly the use of the word "Rightards" shows
your own Political 'Bias' and your opinions
must be given the limited weight that such a
'Bias' would justly deserve.
that is my 'semi-intelligent thought'
of you to use your own words ~ RHF
.
.
Now Speaking of NPR . . .
NO Freedom of Speech at Prez Obama's NPR :
NPR a Culture of Liberal-Fascist Censorship !
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/5082470af445db82
.
US Congress Investigate The 'Wrongful Firing'
of Juan Williams; and Hold "Vivian Schiller"
Accountable !
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/b15da8e14d87a2ce
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/a3be89610aa4331b
.
NPR Board -do-the-right-thing- and Pay Juan Williams
5-Years Salary as "Fair and Just Compensation"
for this 'Wrongful Termination'
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/6e8a431c73556a63
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/a5e8cf59e432444f
.
NO Freedom-of-Speech at NPR : Fire NPR CEO
"Vivian Schiller" She Has Created a Culture of
Liberal-Fascist Censorship at NPR !
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/0dd13cfc2bf4b6fb
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/e26a929b85bbd657
.
NO Freedom-of-Speech at "Vivian Schiller"s NPR :
Do You Agree -or- Disagree With Juan Williams
-wrt- "Anxiety" & "Fear" Post 9-11?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/7a7387730b574c2f
.
NO Freedom-of-Speech at "Vivian Schiller"s NPR :
NPR Violates Juan Williams' Unalienable "Human" Rights !
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/0784bf63e9b937f5
.
.
=WRT= Employer & Employee Job Rights and Duties
Christopher Helms,
Point-of-Fact : Juan Williams was NOT On-the-Job
at NPR at the Time : Juan Williams was On-the-Job
at FOX News at the Time.
Oops - FOX News Did NOT Fire Juan Williams for
What He Said On-the-Job at FOX News.
oops,,, Oops... OOPS ! ! ! - NPR Did in-fact FIRE
Juan Williams for What He Said Off-the-Job !
- = That's a Clear Case of Wrongful Termination = -
.
NO Freedom-of-Speech at "Vivian Schiller"s NPR :
NPR a Culture of Liberal-Fascist Censorship !
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/7a7387730b574c2f
.
NPR Board -do-the-right-thing- and Pay Juan
Williams 5-Years Salary as "Fair and Just
Compensation" for this 'Wrongful Termination'.
.
NPR Board -do-the-right-thing- FIRE "Vivian Schiller"
the NPR CEO because She Has Created a Culture
of Liberal-Fascist Media Censorship at NPR !
.
Wake-Up-America : Juan Williams 'Firing'
By NPR Is A Clear Open-and-Shut Case of
Media "Liberal-Fascism" Today !
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/a9d389a8efc1ba32
.
Christopher Helms - Thank You For This Renewed
Opportunity To Clear-Up Your Misconceptions About
NPR's 'Wrongful Termination' of Juan Williams :
Who is by-all-rights an African-American and a
Hispanic-America : Who was FIRED by the NPR CEO;
a White Liberal {Fascist} Women.
.
Including those who post here on company's TIME !
> By Rich Trzupek On October 22, 2010
>
> Juan Williams put it simply: “I was fired for telling the truth.” That’s
In the last two years, newscorp has purchased many world media assets in
his ongoing quest. He has also tried to shut down several country's
public broadcasting systems in an attempt to replace them with newscorp
controlled companies. (check out his European operations and the BBC)
Would seem to me that if he can control the USA as effectively as he has,
he could control other countries that are less sophisticated much easier.
Why are americans so damn eager to sell the country out to foreigners to
a guy who has most all his non-media assets in foreign countries? Why are
republicans assisting him? How do you think the GOP will pay back Rupert?
NPR's Disgrace a Culture of 'Liberal-Fascist' Media Censorship !
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/cf11c67710299e32
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/6e5ed7b0d8fcd517
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/662d568b3c61b8b5
- - Point of fact -- a private employer can fire
- - an employee for virtually any reason, moron.
"WR" why do you always Sign your Posts 'moron' ?
- Including those who post here on company's TIME !
As a "Fool-Time" 24/7 US Federal Government Employee
'i' resemble that remark . . . ;;-}} ~ RHF
.
Wake-Up-America : Juan Williams 'Firing' By NPR
Is A Clear Open-and-Shut Case of Media
"Liberal-Fascism" Today !
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/28673a6f6b876b31
.
.
Stephen Young,
The Issue before the American People is : What NPR
{A Public Corporation} Is Doing Right Here In America :
A Culture of Media "Liberal-Fascism" -as-exampled-by-
The Firing of Juan Williams . . .
NOT What NewsCorp as a Global Media Company is doing
in 'other' Countries Around the World.
.
Wake-Up-America : Juan Williams 'Firing' By NPR
Is A Clear Open-and-Shut Case of Media
"Liberal-Fascism" Today !
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/28673a6f6b876b31
.
?Q? : Why Is The US Congressional Black Caucus Totally
"SILENT" as NPR Violates Juan Williams' Unalienable
"Human" Rights and Abridge His Freedom-of-Speech.
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/17b203cee6bddd09
NPR's Disgrace a Culture of 'Liberal-Fascist' Media Censorship !
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/cf11c67710299e32
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/6e5ed7b0d8fcd517
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/662d568b3c61b8b5
.
.
Most high profile companies taking personal services contracts
with their front people have a number of morals and behaviour
clauses built into those contracts. They include things like
termination for drug use, alcoholism, and on and off the job
behaviour. Anything that may bring embarrassment, shame, or derision
reflected on the company.
Though I personally think there was nothing wrong with what
Williams said, and that it's long since time that someone finally
say it out loud, he said it in a prominent and public way. And,
ironically, on a network with a larger audience than NPR. Should
this clash with NPR's policies, and the limits of Williams' contract
(which it looks like it certainly did, given Soros' public and
personal funding of NPR political hires recently revealed), Williams
would have been justifiably gone before the words died in the room.
Such clauses are not new. Henry Ford had some non-tobacco, and
non-alcohol use clauses in his employees' work agreements, and these
extended to off site use, like home and recreational use as well.
Ford workers could be fired for smoking at home.
>
> Though I personally think there was nothing wrong with what Williams
> said, and that it's long since time that someone finally say it out
> loud, he said it in a prominent and public way. And, ironically, on a
> network with a larger audience than NPR.
I don't think that's correct. I'm pretty sure NPR has several times the
audience of Fox News.
"For a certain amount of marketing points of view, Fox actually
wants to keep that polarization. They can say look, we're different.
We're dramatically different, you can see how we're different. And if
you like that difference you better come over here and you better stay
here. That is an embedded part of the marketing that surrounds what
happens in the news division at Fox. It's been incredibly successful."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/10/25/major-garrett-fox-news-polarization_n_773557.html
Then the NPR Contract 'Clauses' are something
that the US Congress should hold Public Hearings
{Investigate} on since NPR is a Public Corporation
under their purview via CPB.
- Though I personally think there was nothing wrong
- with what Williams said, and that it's long since
- time that someone finally say it out loud, he said
- it in a prominent and public way.
The 'public way' was in the performance of his Job
as a Commentator on FOX News and Replying to a
Question that was put to him.
=IMHO= The NPR CEO's Firing of Juan Williams was
and is a Clear Case of "Wrongful Termination" [.]
- And, ironically, on a network with a larger audience
- than NPR. Should this clash with NPR's policies, and
- the limits of Williams' contract (which it looks like
- it certainly did,
That is something that the US Congress should hold
Public Hearings {Investigate} on since NPR is a
Public Corporation under their purview via CPB.
- given Soros' public and personal funding
- of NPR political hires recently revealed),
OK - So it is now Public Knowledge that NPR has
become a George Soros Media Front Organization.
-that's-very-interesting- - - -
http://www.worldnewsheardnow.com/soros-first-npr-victim-juan-williams/3496/
*WTF* RHF Say It Ain't So . . . YES IT IS SO !
George Soros just gave NPR $1.8M to Hire 100 New
Reporters for NPR right before Juan Williams’ was
Fired.
? So is "Vivian Schiller" the NPR CEO is just
another George Soros 'Matinee' Puppet Master
pulling the the Liberal-Fascist Strings for
the Grand-Puppet-Master George Soros, himself ?
- Williams would have been justifiably gone
- before the words died in the room.
Had Juan Williams said those words about his
'feelings' {uneasiness} of Anxiety and Fear
at the Uber-Politically Correct NPR : YES I
WOULD SAY NPR COULD JUSTIFIABLY FIRE HIM [.]
Oops ! -but- Juan Williams said those words
about his 'feelings' {uneasiness} of Anxiety
and Fear as an Employee of FOX News On-the-Air
at FOX News -note-that- FOX News Did Not Fire
Juan Williams for simply answering a question
and honestly stating his 'feelings'.
- Such clauses are not new. Henry Ford had
- some non-tobacco, and non-alcohol use clauses
- in his employees' work agreements, and these
- extended to off site use, like home and
- recreational use as well.
- Ford workers could be fired for smoking at home.
Scientific and Medial Evidence clearly shows that
Smoking Kills and Second Hand Smoke can Injure
Health and Kill too.
Smoking is NOT a Basic "Human" Right; while
Freedom-of-Speech is an 'Unalienable' Right.
Even the NPR Ombudsman made a Public Statement that
the NPR CEO's Firing of Juan Williams was an Error.
.
I remain of the 'opinion' that the NPR CEO's
Firing of Juan Williams was and is a Clear Case
of "Wrongful Termination" - imho ~ RHF
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Wake-Up-America : Juan Williams 'Firing' By
NPR Is A Clear Open-and-Shut Case of Media
"Liberal-Fascism" Today !
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/28673a6f6b876b31
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?Q? : Why Is The US Congressional Black Caucus Totally
"SILENT" as NPR Violates Juan Williams' Unalienable
"Human" Rights and Abridge His Freedom-of-Speech
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/17b203cee6bddd09
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In other words, you can't answer any of my questions and instead chose
to respond with a barrage of words and a series of references to Right-
wing screeds. You may not choose to listen to NPR. You're probably the
shock jock type anyway, but if you had listened to NPR, you'd realize
just how balanced the reporting is. Funny, but when I hear (heard)
conservatives like Frum, William Saffire, and any number of
Congressmen and Sentators, they seem to really enjoy the interviews
and the respect they're shown.
- And, ironically, on a network with a larger
- audience than NPR.
- I don't think that's correct.
- I'm pretty sure NPR has several times
- the audience of Fox News.
Reality Check -yes- the Public Media Mega Complex
made up of CPB & PBS & NPR and all their many
Affiliated TV and Radio Stations is the Biggest
'Corporate' Media Complex in the USA.
* PBS has 354 Member TV Stations in the USA
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_Broadcasting_Service
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_PBS_member_stations
* NPR has 797 Member Radio Stations in the USA
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NPR
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NPR_stations
-note- Limbaugh & Hannity & Savage & even C2C AM
all average about 500+ Radio Stations that they
are On-the-Air : So the Total NPR Radio Programming
'Reach' \S\L\A\N\T\ is 50% more than any of those.
* NPR Programming 27.5 Million Radio Listeners Weekly
* NPR Stations Reach 32.7 Million Listeners Overall
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?Q? Is There a George Soros 'Connection' to
the NPR CEO's Firing of Juan Williams ?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/eb93a44f4311283a
Soros is a such a hobgoblin, if he didn't exist the Right would have
to invent him.
> Such clauses are not new. Henry Ford had some non-tobacco, and
> non-alcohol use clauses in his employees' work agreements, and these
> extended to off site use, like home and recreational use as well.
> Ford workers could be fired for smoking at home.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
You don't need special clauses. Employees have no right to their jobs
in the United States. As an employer, I can fire anyone for any
reason. I don't like your tie, you're fired. You said a word I don't
like; you're fired. You argue with me about anything; you're fired. I
once saw a man fired because, after working almost all night on a
special report, he left it in the middle of his boss's desk. The boss
fired him "because you know I can't find anything on my desk and this
was a deliberate act of sabotage." (That happened in NY City, by the
way.)
Some union contracts require "due process," in a firing, which can
restrain management. The unions haven't much cloudt anymore, however,
and many union contracts have a "management rights" clause that is so
broad it allows management to fire anyone anyway.
Under some very special circumstances, you can appeal to the courts
for relief -- e.g., provable, gross religious, racial, sexual, age or
ethnic prejudice -- but the burden of proof is on you. Going to court
and saying my boss fired me because I'm (black, asian, a woman, old,
etc.) isn't an argument. All the boss has to do is respond by stating
your work was subpar, or he didn't get along with you. You have to
show persistent and pervasive organizational prejudice.
The other aspect is damage. Williams exited NPR to join Fox full-time
at a salary of over $2 million. Even if he had a video tape of NPR's
management huddling to find an excuse to "fire the moke because they
were sick of uppity blacks" he'd have to prove he was damaged in some
way. Falling immediately into a $2 million dollar job on a larger
network is hardly damage. He'd have no claim.
The morning show is the most widely listened-to news show on radio.
Compared the other crap one hears on radio, it's golden. People of all
persuasions listen to it avidly. I know military officers, active and
retired, who are to the Right of Atilla the Hun, yet who contribute to
NPR. Only the really dumb Rightards, the shock jock fans, hate it.
Not if he wears the tin hat and covers his ears.
- In other words, you can't answer any of my
- questions and instead chose to respond with
- a barrage of words and a series of references
- to Right-wing screeds.
"WR" Your Questions {Assertions} Asked and Answered
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/6e5ed7b0d8fcd517
* Over-and-Over-Again
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/cf11c67710299e32
- You may not choose to listen to NPR.
Actually to get the 'Other-Half' of the Story
I do Listen to NPR Radio & Watch PBS TV -but-
Those are not my only 'enlightening' and
'informing' News Sources besides ABC/CBS/NBC
plus FOX News : There is also the BBC, DW and
even CRI & RHC and WWCR on the Shortwave Radio
Mostly I am a News & Info Junkie who is always
Actively Listening to the Free Over-the-Air
Radio for around 8~12 Hours a Day ~ RHF
Listening to a re-play of the John Batchelor Radio
Show right now ::: http://johnbatchelorshow.com/
http://www.wabcradio.com/showdj.asp?DJID=39968
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- You're probably the shock jock type anyway,
- but if you had listened to NPR, you'd realize
- just how balanced the reporting is.
Nah NPR is/has a major \S\L\A\N\T\ !
- Funny, but when I hear (heard) conservatives
- like Frum, William Saffire, and any number of
- Congressmen and Sentators, they seem to really
- enjoy the interviews and the respect they're shown.
The Easiest Way to make a Pundit a/o Politician
very "Happy" is to put them in front of a Camera
a/o Mic and let them Speechify {Sell-Themselves}
to the Viewing/Listening Public.
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Major Liberal Bias : The Public Media Mega
Complex Made-Up of CPB & PBS & NPR &
Affiliated TV and Radio Stations Is The Biggest
'Corporate' Media Complex In The USA
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/0c4c2a4bef78e424
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?Q? : Why Is The US Congressional Black Caucus Totally
"SILENT" as NPR Violates Juan Williams' Unalienable
"Human" Rights and Abridge His Freedom-of-Speech
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/17b203cee6bddd09
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Policy for receiving federal funds is FREEDOM OF SPEACH!
- Policy for receiving federal funds
- is FREEDOM OF SPEACH!
NPR's 501c3 Tax Exempt Foundation Tax Status
{a Public Corporation} should assure that NPR
Respects all Basic "Human" Rights and NOT
Censor the Freedom-of-Speech of Juan Williams
when he was/is Off-the-Job at NPR and was
in-fact working at the time at FOX News.
.
End NPR's 501c3 Tax Exempt Foundation Tax Status
and Remove the NPR CEO "Vivian Schiller"
.
NPR Board -do-the-right-thing- Fire NPR CEO
"Vivian Schiller" She Has Created a Culture of
Liberal-Fascist Censorship at NPR !
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/0dd13cfc2bf4b6fb
- And they're beaming their signals directly
- into your brain. Bwahahaha!
.
CBPB- Those would be the Brain-Washing Obama-Rays©
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/c2fa83117ba5deb8
.
The ObamaRay© {Big Government} Deflector Beanie :
The Inverted "CK" Antenna
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/5f29f4ec4ec5d8e6
.
WARNING : Tin Foil Hats (TFHs) Are Susceptible to
US Government Frequencies "RAYS" Zapping Your Brains !
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/9b260fb0b38afd68
.
That is why I use an The Inverted "CK" Antenna :
For that Rumble Bumble in My Head !
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.amateur.misc/msg/d5af9e2929c3eec6
.
NOW GETTING BACK ON MESSAGE :
Major Liberal Bias : The Public Media Mega Complex
Made-Up of CPB & PBS & NPR & Affiliated TV and Radio
Stations Is The Biggest 'Corporate' Media Complex
In The USA and Transmitting ObamaRays© -jftfoi-
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/0c4c2a4bef78e424
* PBS TV is Transmitting ObamaRays© trying to
Brain Wash Americans through their Eyes
* NPR Radio is Transmitting ObamaRays© trying
to Brain Wash Americans through their Ears
-just-for-the-fun-of-it- ~ RHF
.
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?Q? Is There a George Soros 'Connection' to
the NPR CEO's Firing of Juan Williams ?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/eb93a44f4311283a
.
Wake-Up-America : Juan Williams 'Firing' By
NPR Is A Clear Open-and-Shut Case of Media
"Liberal-Fascism" Today !
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/28673a6f6b876b31
.
?Q? : Why Is The US Congressional Black Caucus Totally
"SILENT" as NPR Violates Juan Williams' Unalienable
"Human" Rights and Abridge His Freedom-of-Speech
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/17b203cee6bddd09
.
NPR's Disgrace a Culture of 'Liberal-Fascist' Media Censorship !
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/cf11c67710299e32
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/6e5ed7b0d8fcd517
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/662d568b3c61b8b5
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>
Major Liberal Bias : The Public Media Mega Complex
Made-Up of CPB & PBS & NPR & Affiliated TV and Radio
Stations Is The Biggest 'Corporate' Media Complex
In The USA and Transmitting ObamaRays© -jftfoi-
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/0c4c2a4bef78e424
- - And they're beaming their signals
- - directly into your brain. Bwahahaha!
- Not if he wears the tin hat and covers his ears.
Warning : PBS TV and NPR Radio are Transmitting ObamaRays©
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/1f131d46da38c870
Caution : The ObamaRays© will turn an average American
into a "One World Liberal Elitist Socialist" (OWLES)
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/c2fa83117ba5deb8
Wrong. He was fired for violating NPR's code of ethics.
Freedom of speech.
He was fired for coming to work with the stench of Fox News on his
clothes. Fox News was hoping some some NPR credibility might rub off I
suppose.
- - By Rich Trzupek On October 22, 2010
- - Juan Williams put it simply:
- - “I was fired for telling the truth.”
- On Oct 26, 4:49 pm, Lamont Cranston
- <Lamont.Crans...@Shadow.com> wrote:
- Wrong.
- He was fired for violating NPR's code of ethics.
Lamont Cranston OK... The NPR Code-of-Ethics :
Hello - That is something that the new and improved
112th US Congress of January 2011 should hold full
Public Hearings {Investigate} on since NPR is a
Public Corporation under their purview via CPB.
* 112th United States Congress
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/112th_United_States_Congress
* Corporation for Public Broadcasting (CPB)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporation_for_Public_Broadcasting
* National Public Radio (NPR)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Public_Radio
The NPR Code-of-Ethics - Point-by-Point : How Did
Juan Williams while Working a FOX News Violate Them !
The NPR Code-of-Ethics - Are They Fair & Equitable ?
The NPR Code-of-Ethics - Are They Uniformly Applied ?
The NPR Code-of-Ethics - Are They Biased {Racist}
Against African-Americans ?
The NPR Code-of-Ethics - Are They Biased {Racist}
Against Hispanic-Americans ?
The NPR Code-of-Ethics - Are They Biased {Sexists}
Against Men ?
The NPR Code-of-Ethics - Are They Politically Biased ?
GETTING TO THE TRUTH & GETTING ANSWERS :
The NPR CEO "Vivian Schiller" needs to give Sworn
Testimony before the new 112th US Congress in JAN
2011 -or- The NPR Board could simply Fire Her Now !
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WHY : Freedom-of-Speech is an 'Unalienable' Right.
.
NOTE : Even the NPR Ombudsman made a Public Statement
that the NPR CEO's Firing of Juan Williams was an Error.
.
I remain of the 'opinion' that the NPR CEO's
Firing of Juan Williams was and is a Clear Case
of "Wrongful Termination" - imho ~ RHF
.
Wake-Up-America : Juan Williams 'Firing' By
NPR Is A Clear Open-and-Shut Case of Media
"Liberal-Fascism" Today !
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/28673a6f6b876b31
.
?Q? : Why Is The US Congressional Black Caucus Totally
"SILENT" as NPR Violates Juan Williams' Unalienable
"Human" Rights and Abridge His Freedom-of-Speech
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/17b203cee6bddd09
? Why Is The US Congressional Black Caucus Silent ?
Hello Chairwoman of the Congressional Black Caucus
Barbara Lee have you called and talked to Juan Williams
about His 'Wrongful Termination' {Firing} by the NPR CEO ?
http://lee.house.gov/
? Congresswomen Barbara Lee as an African-American
Women and Leader in the Congressional Black Caucus :
Don't you Represent Juan Williams an African-American
Man and Protect His All American Civil Rights ?
.
NPR's Disgrace a Culture of 'Liberal-Fascist' Media Censorship !
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/cf11c67710299e32
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/6e5ed7b0d8fcd517
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/662d568b3c61b8b5
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?Q? Is There a George Soros 'Connection' to the
NPR CEO's Firing of Juan Williams ?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/eb93a44f4311283a
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There used to be a place in Mississippi called Hog Chaw, just a sign
stands there nowadays.There used to be a place in Ireland called City -
Cow - Titty.I wonder if there is a City - Cow - Titty sign standing
there now?
cuhulin, the PIG
- - On Oct 26, 4:49 pm, Lamont Cranston
- - <Lamont.Crans...@Shadow.com> wrote:
- - Wrong. He was fired for violating NPR's code of ethics.
- On Oct 27, 6:12 am, dave <d...@dave.dave> wrote:
- He was fired for coming to work with the stench
- of Fox News on his clothes. Fox News was hoping
- some some NPR credibility might rub off I suppose.
'Special Dave' - A Result of the NPR CEO's Firing
of Juan Williams : NPR's 'Credibility' Now Has
The "Stench" of Liberal-Fascism !
.
Wake-Up-America : Juan Williams 'Firing' By NPR Is A
Clear Open-and-Shut Case of Media "Liberal-Fascism"
in America Today !
The New 112th US Congress of January 2011 Needs
to Have Public Hearings {Investigate} on the NPR
CEO's Firing of Juan Williams !
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/2fdebbf3afadacbb
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NPR Execs Have 'Nazi' Attitude*
-says- Roger Ailes FOX News CEO
http://www.npr.org/2010/11/19/131436212/fox-news-ceo-ailes-npr-execs-have-nazi-attitude
* WRT The Wrongful Terminating Juan Williams
by NPR CEO "Vivian Schiller" for remarks he made
on Fox News about JW' 'feelings' Anxiety and Fear
when he sees People Muslims Garb in an Airport.
Roger Ailes spoke of NPR Executives:
"They are, of course, Nazis.
They have a kind of Nazi Attitude.
They are the Left-Wwing of Nazism.
These guys [NPR] don't want any other point of view."
sounds about just right to me . . . all things
{considered} being fair and balance ~ RHF
.
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The New 112th US Congress of January 2011
Needs to Have Public Hearings {Investigate}
on the NPR CEO's Firing of Juan Williams !
.
OBTW - The Republicans Act To Defund NPR Fails !
-but- This was the just the First Vote in the waning
days of a Democrat Controlled : Come January 2011
and the Republicans have the Votes Say Bye-Bye
NPR to Public Funding.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/11/18/republican-defund-npr-fails_n_785453.html
Maybe the CPB and NPR Boards could do a end
around and Fire the NPR CEO "Vivian Schiller"
and Clean-House at NPR of the George Soros
'infiltrators' and 'collaborators' that have taken
over NPR Management and Staff.
-better- For the NPR & CPB Boards :To Clean The
NPR House" themselves then to have the 112th US
Congress Force You To By DEFUNDING NRP [.]
.
NOTE that Juan Williams Firing By NPR is a Clear
Open-and-Shut Case of "Liberal-Fascism" Today
.
NPR Sets a New Standard for 'Liberal-Fascist' Censorship
in the Media -by- Firing Juan Williams !
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/75ec08943813f11a
.
NPR's Disgrace a Culture of 'Liberal-Fascist' Media Censorship !
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/662d568b3c61b8b5
.
NO Freedom-of-Speech at National Public Radio :
NPR a Culture of "Liberal-Fascist" Censorship !
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/5082470af445db82
.
US Congress Investigate The 'Wrongful Firing'
of Juan Williams; and Hold "Vivian Schiller"
Accountable !
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/b15da8e14d87a2ce
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/a3be89610aa4331b
.
NPR Board -do-the-right-thing- and Pay Juan Williams
5-Years Salary as "Fair and Just Compensation"
for this 'Wrongful Termination'
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/6e8a431c73556a63
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/a5e8cf59e432444f
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NO Freedom-of-Speech at NPR : Fire NPR CEO
"Vivian Schiller" She Has Created a Culture of
Liberal-Fascist Censorship at NPR !
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/0dd13cfc2bf4b6fb
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/e26a929b85bbd657
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NO Freedom-of-Speech at "Vivian Schiller"s NPR :
Do You Agree -or- Disagree With Juan Williams
-wrt- "Anxiety" & "Fear" Post 9-11?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/7a7387730b574c2f
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NO Freedom-of-Speech at "Vivian Schiller"s NPR :
NPR Violates Juan Williams' Unalienable "Human" Rights !
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/0784bf63e9b937f5
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