Lesson from Austria, Would You Vote for Hitler? The testimony of Kitty Werthman
Greegor
Lesson from Austria, Would You Vote for Hitler? The testimony of
Kitty Werthman
What I am about to tell you is something you’ve probably never heard
or will ever read in history books.
I believe that I am an eyewitness to history. I cannot tell you that
Hitler took Austria by tanks and guns; it would distort history. We
elected him by a landslide – 98% of the vote. I’ve never read that in
any American publications. Everyone thinks that Hitler just rolled in
with his tanks and took Austria by force. In 1938, Austria was in
deep Depression. Nearly one-third of our workforce was unemployed. We
had 25% inflation and 25% bank loan interest rates.
Farmers and business people were declaring bankruptcy daily. Young
people were going from house to house begging for food. Not that they
didn’t want to work; there simply weren’t any jobs. My mother was a
Christian woman and believed in helping people in need. Every day we
cooked a big kettle of soup and baked bread to feed those poor, hungry
people – about 30 daily.
The Communist Party and the National Socialist Party were fighting
each other. Blocks and blocks of cities like Vienna, Linz, and Graz
were destroyed. The people became desperate and petitioned the
government to let them decide what kind of government they wanted.
We looked to our neighbor on the north, Germany, where Hitler had been
in power since 1933. We had been told that they didn’t have
unemployment or crime, and they had a high standard of living. Nothing
was ever said about persecution of any group -- Jewish or otherwise.
We were led to believe that everyone was happy. We wanted the same way
of life in Austria . We were promised that a vote for Hitler would
mean the end of unemployment and help for the family. Hitler also said
that businesses would be assisted, and farmers would get their farms
back. Ninety-eight percent of the population voted to annex Austria to
Germany and have Hitler for our ruler.
We were overjoyed, and for three days we danced in the streets and had
candlelight parades. The new government opened up big field kitchens
and everyone was fed.
After the election, German officials were appointed, and like a
miracle, we suddenly had law and order. Three or four weeks later,
everyone was employed. The government made sure that a lot of work was
created through the Public Work Service.
Hitler decided we should have equal rights for women. Before this, it
was a custom that married Austrian women did not work outside the
home. An able-bodied husband would be looked down on if he couldn’t
support his family. Many women in the teaching profession were elated
that they could retain the jobs they previously had been required to
give up for marriage.
Hitler Targets Education – Eliminates Religious Instruction for
Children:
Our education was nationalized. I attended a very good public school.
The population was predominantly Catholic, so we had religion in our
schools. The day we elected Hitler (March 13, 1938), I walked into my
schoolroom to find the crucifix replaced by Hitler’s picture hanging
next to a Nazi flag. Our teacher, a very devout woman, stood up and
told the class we wouldn’t pray or have religion anymore. Instead, we
sang “Deutschland, Deutschland, Uber Alles,” and had physical
education.
Sunday became National Youth Day with compulsory attendance. Parents
were not pleased about the sudden change in curriculum. They were told
that if they did not send us, they would receive a stiff letter of
warning the first time. The second time they would be fined the
equivalent of $300, and the third time they would be subject to jail.
The first two hours consisted of political indoctrination. The rest of
the day we had sports. As time went along, we loved it. Oh, we had so
much fun and got our sports equipment free. We would go home and
gleefully tell our parents about the wonderful time we had.
My mother was very unhappy. When the next term started, she took me
out of public school and put me in a convent. I told her she couldn’t
do that and she told me that someday when I grew up, I would be
grateful. There was a very good curriculum, but hardly any fun – no
sports, and no political indoctrination. I hated it at first but felt
I could tolerate it. Every once in a while, on holidays, I went home.
I would go back to my old friends and ask what was going on and what
they were doing. Their loose lifestyle was very alarming to me. They
lived without religion. By that time unwed mothers were glorified for
having a baby for Hitler. It seemed strange to me that our society
changed so suddenly. As time went along, I realized what a great deed
my mother did so that I wasn’t exposed to that kind of humanistic
philosophy.
Equal Rights Hits Home:
In 1939, the war started and a food bank was established. All food was
rationed and could only be purchased using food stamps. At the same
time, a full-employment law was passed which meant if you didn’t work,
you didn’t get a ration card, and if you didn’t have a card, you
starved to death. Women who stayed home to raise their families didn’t
have any marketable skills and often had to take jobs more suited for
men.
Soon after this, the draft was implemented. It was compulsory for
young people, male and female, to give one year to the labor corps.
During the day, the girls worked on the farms, and at night they
returned to their barracks for military training just like the boys.
They were trained to be anti-aircraft gunners and participated in the
signal corps. After the labor corps, they were not discharged but were
used in the front lines. When I go back to Austria to visit my family
and friends, most of these women are emotional cripples because they
just were not equipped to handle the horrors of combat. Three months
before I turned 18, I was severely injured in an air raid attack. I
nearly had a leg amputated, so I was spared having to go into the
labor corps and into military service.
Hitler Restructured the Family Through Daycare:
When the mothers had to go out into the work force, the government
immediately established child care centers. You could take your
children ages 4 weeks to school age and leave them there around-the-
clock, 7 days a week, under the total care of the government. The
state raised a whole generation of children. There were no motherly
women to take care of the children, just people highly trained in
child psychology. By this time, no one talked about equal rights. We
knew we had been had.
Health Care and Small Business Suffer Under Government Controls:
Before Hitler, we had very good medical care. Many American doctors
trained at the University of Vienna . After Hitler, health care was
socialized, free for everyone. Doctors were salaried by the
government. The problem was, since it was free, the people were going
to the doctors for everything. When the good doctor arrived at his
office at 8 a.m., 40 people were already waiting and, at the same
time, the hospitals were full. If you needed elective surgery, you had
to wait a year or two for your turn. There was no money for research
as it was poured into socialized medicine. Research at the medical
schools literally stopped, so the best doctors left Austria and
emigrated to other countries.
As for healthcare, our tax rates went up to 80% of our income.
Newlyweds immediately received a $1,000 loan from the government to
establish a household. We had big programs for families. All day care
and education were free. High schools were taken over by the
government and college tuition was subsidized. Everyone was entitled
to free handouts, such as food stamps, clothing, and housing.
We had another agency designed to monitor business. My brother-in-law
owned a restaurant that had square tables. Government officials told
him he had to replace them with round tables because people might bump
themselves on the corners. Then they said he had to have additional
bathroom facilities. It was just a small dairy business with a snack
bar. He couldn’t meet all the demands. Soon, he went out of business.
If the government owned the large businesses and not many small ones
existed, it could be in control.
We had consumer protection. We were told how to shop and what to buy.
Free enterprise was essentially abolished. We had a planning agency
specially designed for farmers. The agents would go to the farms,
count the live-stock, then tell the farmers what to produce, and how
to produce it.
“Mercy Killing” Redefined:
In 1944, I was a student teacher in a small village in the Alps . The
villagers were surrounded by mountain passes which, in the winter,
were closed off with snow, causing people to be isolated. So people
intermarried and offspring were sometimes retarded. When I arrived, I
was told there were 15 mentally retarded adults, but they were all
useful and did good manual work. I knew one, named Vincent, very well.
He was a janitor of the school. One day I looked out the window and
saw Vincent and others getting into a van. I asked my superior where
they were going. She said to an institution where the State Health
Department would teach them a trade, and to read and write. The
families were required to sign papers with a little clause that they
could not visit for 6 months. They were told visits would interfere
with the program and might cause homesickness.
As time passed, letters started to dribble back saying these people
died a natural, merciful death. The villagers were not fooled. We
suspected what was happening. Those people left in excellent physical
health and all died within 6 months. We called this euthanasia.
The Final Steps - Gun Laws:
Next came gun registration. People were getting injured by guns.
Hitler said that the real way to catch criminals (we still had a few)
was by matching serial numbers on guns. Most citizens were law abiding
and dutifully marched to the police station to register their
firearms. Not long after-wards, the police said that it was best for
everyone to turn in their guns. The authorities already knew who had
them, so it was futile not to comply voluntarily.
No more freedom of speech. Anyone who said something against the
government was taken away. We knew many people who were arrested, not
only Jews, but also priests and ministers who spoke up.
Totalitarianism didn’t come quickly, it took 5 years from 1938 until
1943, to realize full dictatorship in Austria . Had it happened
overnight, my countrymen would have fought to the last breath.
Instead, we had creeping gradualism. Now, our only weapons were broom
handles. The whole idea sounds almost unbelievable that the state,
little by little eroded our freedom.
After World War II, Russian troops occupied Austria. Women were raped,
preteen to elderly. The press never wrote about this either. When the
Soviets left in 1955, they took everything that they could,
dismantling whole factories in the process. They sawed down whole
orchards of fruit, and what they couldn’t destroy, they burned. We
called it The Burned Earth. Most of the population barricaded
themselves in their houses. Women hid in their cellars for 6 weeks as
the troops mobilized. Those who couldn’t, paid the price. There is a
monument in Vienna today, dedicated to those women who were massacred
by the Russians. This is an eye witness account.
It’s true….those of us who sailed past the Statue of Liberty came to a
country of unbelievable freedom and opportunity. America Truly is the
Greatest Country in the World. Don’t Let Freedom Slip Away.
After America, There is No Place to Run.
Greegor
> http://www.examiner.com/x-25060-Fort-Worth-Christianity--Culture-Exam...
What do you think, Dan Sullivan?
Greegor
Greegor
robbielynn
me something similar.
Greegor
RL > This sounds quite believeable. I had a
RL > German friend tell me something similar.
Does it sound like something in the news recently?
G > No comments on this, Dan?
KBW > Don't you find it a bit revealing that
KBW > you ask for another's comments
KBW > but have none to offer yourself?
Are you accusing me of sniping at Dan?
KBW > Apparently you aren't about the substance,
KBW > but rather about poorly disguised harassment.
To quote Dan himself, it was JUST a question!
KBW > Why should anyone have to comment on
KBW > something introduced to the group within
KBW > YOUR demanded time frame?
Now WHO do you suppose has made that
same argument but involving demands for
a response within less than a day?
Why, It was me! Hmm...
KBW > Especially someone about whom you are
KBW > so obsessed that you know, to the day,
KBW > how long he's not been posting?
Which is exactly what Davey and you just
did to Ken Pangborn isn't it, Kent?
And 5 days along I pointed out that Dan had
not posted for even LONGER!
Yet I am the obsessed one, and supposedly
you are not, right Kent?
Typical Kent Wills brain trust material.
KBW > Do you expect this of yourself - that
KBW > you should make an immediate
KBW > comment, or comment at all on
KBW > just anything someone pops up with?
Kent, Do you expect things of yourself?
Do you limit your own responses to hard,
fast rules that you set for yourself?
In fact, You're such a misfit you have a tough time
relating to unpredictable human beings,
don't you, Kent?
KBW > How shallow you show yourself to be.
Oh, That HURTS me! LOL
KBW > Or, how UNABLE you are to live up to
KBW > the standards you DEMAND of others.
Kent, You pretend that the ONLY logic is that which
operates at a level that you try to manipulate.
Nice try though. You are ever the con artist, Kent.
I'm sure that Dan will see that you tried to protect
him from the ravages of being asked for his opinion.
LOL
freedom
Ken claims to be a legal professional. Yet he seemingly can't even keep
his internet service active.
Prospective clients have a right to know that the guy they're hiring might
suddenly be unable to correspond with them, or research their case, due to
his internet service randomly being cut off for his harassment of
strangers.
>
>And 5 days along I pointed out that Dan had
>not posted for even LONGER!
>
>Yet I am the obsessed one, and supposedly
>you are not, right Kent?
You're so obsessed that you post pages upon pages of spam, regarding some
guy who has nothing to do with you. Based solely upon the fact that he
shares the same common first and last name as another of your targets.
Blow up any buildings lately, Marwan?
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because of how he would talk to her and come on to her....and he had over
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"If you call the police, I'll knock out all of your teeth, I'll cripple
you. I may go to prison for it, but when I get out, I'll be able to walk,
but you will still be a cripple."
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in a verbal threat to his girlfriend
** - this conclusion was reached via applying Ken and Greg's logic
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Greegor
DDM > Yet he seemingly can't even keep
DDM > his internet service active.
What are you talking about? His web site is running just fine!
DDM > Prospective clients have a right to know
DDM > that the guy they're hiring might suddenly
DDM > be unable to correspond with them, or
DDM > research their case, due to his internet
DDM > service randomly being cut off for his
DDM > harassment of strangers.
What the heck are you talking about, Dave?
DDM > You're so obsessed that you post pages
DDM > upon pages of spam, regarding some
DDM > guy who has nothing to do with you.
DDM > Based solely upon the fact that he
DDM > shares the same common first and last
DDM > name as another of your targets.
Dave, You've got an entire FAN CLUB of people
who know exactly who you are and some
of them are actually people who matter.
David Daniel Moore AKA David Ulanowski Random
DOB 9/26/70
DDM > Blow up any buildings lately, Marwan?
I bet the anonymous remailer community
will just LOVE how you attract a certain
kind of special attention, Dave!
Greegor
KBW > Roadrunner account was yanked due to his
KBW > stalking and harassment of a man he's
KBW > never met and doesn't know.
""All available evidence""??
What evidence?
Firemonkey
> What evidence?
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"Jon Beaver" <jbea...@imagecomp.com>
> These cases should be hard to prosecute. I don't think we want the
> government acting precipitously to any allegation, child abuse/neglect
> or false reports of it. If anything, we should have a higher
> tolerance for uncertainty about allegations of false reports. We who
> are concerned about CPS abuse of power should not take the position
> that that power should be abused against someone else.
>
> The problem here is that government can't raise children. No matter
> how much they try, no matter how much money they spend, they can only
> harm and threaten to harm. So every social problem devolves to a
> search for someone to blame and punish. As somebody once said, if all
> you have is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail.
>
> - Jon Beaver
>In my present circumstances, I find it hard to feel compassion for
>a tainted, motivated, scroogelike and factually wrong witness who
>has been instrumental in helping grandparents use CPS as a weapon.
>His accusation was quickly proven false, in multiple ways, but
>CPS still* presented it to the judge as accurate.
>I am angry that CPS allowed themselves to be used in this way.
>CPS ignored all assertions of witness contamination.>
>As an ongoing victim of CPS and their "helping relationship" (sic)
>we really have no legal recourse at this moment.
>The only corrective measure left to us is Civil Suit, after we
>get "helped" into submission.
>Sure, I'd gladly trade having the child home now, for potential
>civil action later, but unfortunately, CPS knows this and uses it.
>We made the mistake of working with them "in good faith" for
>two weeks before we figured out on our own that they were
>not operating "in good faith". That's when we discovered the
>array of anti-CPS sites on the web, and recognized quite a
>few of the rotten tactics that CPS people use all over the US.
>Herein lies the real breach of trust. CPS and attorneys often
>dismiss anti-CPS sites as "crackpot" basically. But when an
>innocent family operating in good faith realizes that the
>anti-CPS sites really do "have CPS's number", the naivety ends.
>When a naive innocent sees anti-CPS descriptions of the dirty
>tricks that CPS uses, and recognizes* the tactics, the lamb
>becomes the lion.
>Sure, Jon, I'd rather see CPS use their brain about false
>accusations, but until they do, aren't we forced to sue?
>You seem to presume a reasonable world. I cannot.
>I'd have to see it before I can operate on the philosophical
>plane you described. First I have to drag myself out of
>the mud selectively flung upon me.
>I have to live in fear of another false accusation starting
>a similar quagmire all over again, forever.
<Yes, I want liars marked as liars.
>I am now a "founded" child abuser for making a
>7 year old take a fast cold shower.
>(Not initial accusation, result of witchhunt)
>Never have I seen anybody offer substantial answers
>about how to avoid recurring false accusations.
>Do you have any answers?
>PS- no disrespect intended, Jon.
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Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2001 02:55:23 GMT
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Good luck! Are you a member of CPS Watch yet? It's at www.cpswatch.com.
Marilynn
In article <Ncty6.49543$hf.21149...@news1.elmhst1.il.home.com>, Greg
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>My family is in week 8 of DHS/CPS hell right now in Iowa.
>Obsessive maternal grandmother left her phone number with senile old man
>across the
>road from us to watch us. Old man is known to be a neighborhood grouch and
>has
>yelled across the road at us many times over the last two years. Grouchy
>neighbor
>mouths off at us, then calls the grandma, who incites grandfather to come
>over here
>and whack me on the side of the head and force his way in. (vigilante' act)
Firemonkey notes: The Neighbor called the grandparents when he noticed
that greg
had locked his girlfriends 7 yr old daughter out of the trailer with
no shoes or
coat on a January day in Iowa.
>They called the police, and I called the police. (There are 911 tapes)
>Police interviewed 7 year old who denied she was abused. (accusation was
>false)
>Child was removed for clutter in our house and the accusation they already
>found
>out was false.
Firemonkey notes: greg had locked the child outin the cold, his
trailer was stacked
with crap up to the ceiling.
The little girl told a caseworker that greg had been washing her
private parts with
his bare hands after forcing her to strip naked and into cold showers.
>Removed to the grandpa, who just committed a vigilante
>act of violence upon me, and grandma who doesn't take her Prozac, doesn't
>take her prescribed heart medicine, is diabetic and incontinent (wears
>depends).
>Perhaps it helps them that the senior Police officer is neighbor to
>grandparents.
>(We figured out Police mysteriously didn't report assault upon me.)
>One of the officers asked the grandma if she was on any medication "No"
>(lied)
>DHS found out right away that the neighbors accusation was false, and began
>emphasizing our clutter as a safety issue. We made the mistake of
>cooperating
>with DHS in good faith for two weeks, until we realized that they were not
>working in good faith with us. A third party agency social worker spent a
>week
>with us with the stated goal of safety, and the title of Family
>Preservation.
Firemonkey notes: grag had already been involved in at least two
earlier investigations
regarding his ex-wifes children. greg has a history with cpsproblems
with other peoples children.
>The child would have to return within 7 days or this would be cancelled.
>This sounded great, except DHS had absolutely NO INTENTION of fulfilling
>their side of that bargain by sending the girl home. A plan we wrote up with
>that worker for resolving clutter issue was never answered by DHS. At the
>two week mark we realized their bad intentions and retracted information
>releases from
>and to all of the agencies and the childs school. (As yet untainted) We went
>to
>DHS to obtain our copy of the first document signed, and to request
>visitation. The rather bariatric supervisor took us into an office. We left
>a handwritten note requesting visitation. I asked why we were not given a
>copy of the first document automatically.
>The supervisor of the vacationing social worker said "Well, maybe she didn't
>have a copy." as she pulled out the form. I pointed out that it was a
>multipart carbonless form (visible) so she obviously DID have a copy! I
>asked her why she was "making excuses" for the vacationing social worker. I
>pointed out that we had cooperated
>with the DHS without a court order, and that we COULD HAVE taken the child
>home any time during the prior two weeks. This supervisor apparently lied
>and said
>that we INTENDED to take the child home. (Why turn in visit request then?)
>That Friday I got a call from DHS warning us not to exercise our legal right
>to go get
>the girl, that DHS was going to court on Monday and Police were directed by
>DHS to take the girl back to grandparents if we got her. (Absent a court
>order, promising one) I informed Kevin at DHS that The US Supreme Court had
>decided
>11 to 1 that DHS removal is in itself ABUSE, and so they need damned good
>reasons to remove a child. I pointed out that "clutter" just doesn't
>conform.
Firemonkey: Maybe so with "clutter" but not so with the little girl
telling
them about your washing her privates parts with your bare hands, after
forcing her
naked into a cold showersand locking her outside with no shoes or
coat.
>I also informed Kevin that this was a pretty severe violation of our 14th
>amendment rights under the US constitution. I also informed Kevin that he
>was not immune to
>prosecution for this according to another US Supreme Court decision. I
>complained
>that I knew he would sneak into court to get the removal order without any
>rebuttal
>and asked if we could be present to rebut it. We spent half a day at the
>court house,
>and met the prosecuting attorney "I heard your house was a disaster area.".
>Try though we did, rebuttal at this point was not possible. DHS got removal
>of course.
>Our public pretender was appointed. Didn't subpoena anything, didn't motion
>for
>anything, didn't object to glaring improprieties, didn't fight anything,
>allowed them
>to do a sex-abuse exam for no other reason than a potty problem from the
>past and
>a proveable lie from DHS themselves.
Firemonkey: Again greg fails to mention the washing of private parts
with bare hands.
>Girls mother was to go and hold her
>hand during the legalized groping. Instead DHS people did an "ambush
>interview" of the mother during the time of the physical exam, without
>attorney present. Photographed the 7 year old girls crotch and interviewed
>her on video tape. No physical evidence of sexual abuse. Later they still
>implied that I had washed her privates with my hands. The mother has had 2
>two hour supervised visits in 8 weeks. (requested at 2 week mark remember) I
>have had none, and I was supposed to get some visits after this sick sexual
>exam cleared me, which might explain why they are implying dirt.
Firemonkey: Any reasonable person would have a hard time beliving
that
cps would force a childinto a sex abuse exam "for clutter"if there was
not evidence of abuse.
>One interview with bad witness written up two substantially different ways.
>Child herself refuted bad witness' accusation.
>DHS caught in big lie to judge about their own past reports on me.
>DHS violated many of their own rules, if the foundational DHHS guide is even
>close.
> (1992 Child Protective Services: A guide for caseworkers (Panfilis/Salus)
> US HHS Contract HHS-105-88-1702 (NCCAN 800/FYI-3366)
> impartiality, respect for individuality, fairness, .....
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Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2001 06:34:05 GMT
Local: Sun, Apr 29 2001 1:34 am
Subject: abuse or discipline?
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>After all of the witchhunt these last 11 weeks, here is the
>meat of what we're accused of:
> - Made 7 year old take fast cold shower as consequence for daytime wetting
> - Pushed head under shower spray
> - Cluttered house
>I could see these justifying parent counseling, but removal of child
>for over 11 weeks seems extreme.
?Have we come so far that a fast cold shower is viewed as sadism?
Firemonkey: Most reasonable people would think forcing your
girlfriends 7 yr old daughter
(mother was not at home) to undress and get into a cold shower
>PS- Cold shower treatment was highly motivational and worked.
(Was not wetting because of bladder infection.)
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Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 03:47:30 GMT
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Ric: I only partly understand your sarcasm in this response.
> I suspect that if I really* let them know that other people are
>considering this treatment, they will come after me more. :)
>The baseball black eye analogy was sort of disturbing to me.
>From one angle it could be construed as making fun of me, which
>I can take. I am not so fragile. I can't even be sure about
>>whether or not you intended to make fun of me. I hope not.
>I am not trying to explain away real abuse as sports injury.
>(That's the uncertain hint that crossed my mind.)
>The angle that seemed stronger and more likely intended was that
>a kid needs to pay attention to both softball and bladder.
>Failure in either arena results in problems.
>So your recommending that I tease them for their 11 week "solution"?
>I confess that I feel foolish and naive about how a quick cold shower
>becomes sadistic. I've taken many cold showers in my life.
>I never felt they were sadistic. Should I see them that way?
>Admittedly confused, Greg
Firemonkey: Have you ever been a 7 yr old girl who was forced to strip
naked
and get into a cold shower by your mommys boyfriend?
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Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 00:02:19 GMT
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"Fern5827" <fern5...@aol.com>
> Greg, the child may have a bladder infection. It is daytime accident.
Definately not bladder infection. Frequency gives those away.
> It's a good idea to keep those large sized baby wipes on hand, no alcohol,
> rinse in warm warm to cleanse.
Too big an area, shower less invasive on 7 year old.
Firemonkey: Did greg REALLY think Fern was recommending greg use the
wipes on the girl?
After all, greg has stated many times that the girl was advanced for
her age, surely she could
have taken care of that herself.
This statement from greg indicates he was indeed washing the childs
genitals himself.
> Anyway, CPS should not be INVOLVED. Micromanaging lives doesn't work
anyway.
> Does your boss micromanage your work?
Firemonkey: And, as an unrelated male you had no business
micromanaging this little girls body.
>Understood.
Jon,
I grew up in Minnesota, and my ancestry is mostly Norwegian.
My ancestors took saunas and then jumped into snow banks.
I am well aware of what real hypothermia is and this is not.
This child was not wetting because of a physical ailment of any kind,
nor a psychiatric disorder. She just simply didn't want to take time
out of her exciting activities to waste 5 minutes in the bathroom.
1st grader performing at 5th grade level, enormous enthusiasm.
We established the fast cold shower as a consequence for
failing to manage bathroom trips. Her daytime wetting was
and is completely avoidable, as was the consequence.
It worked.
Why can't they presume the good, not the bad?
Firemonkey: Because people wonder what the hell you were doing with an
unrelated
naked 7 yr old while her mother was at work.
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From: "Greg Hanson" <gree...@hotmail.com>
Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 19:59:43 GMT
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I have scheduled a Psych Eval for June 21st, the carrot is visits.
I am not as much concerned that the facility is a stooge for the DHS,
as I am about the "Input" required to even schedule the Psych Eval.
The scheduling person could not even schedule the Psych Eval until
knowing the parameters of just what DHS wants the Psych Eval to
"look for", so that they can report to DHS what they need to
clear me. Apparently, different modules or tests can be set up and
there is a legitimate side of this having to do with time and
facilities
scheduling. On the other side, I don't like that there IS input to
this.
Input parameters/concerns DHS has:
Controlling
Need to be the victim
Domestic Violence
Anger Management Issues
There may be more, as these were passed verbally, and scheduling
person did not tell me what I already knew was input, only
verified what I already knew, no other points.
(In other words, logical reason to suspect more are hidden.)
Another factor that bothers me is that they scheduled 10 more
hours for therapy, after the Psych Eval. (Presuming need!)
(Sure, it might be "just in case" but there's reason to question.)
Coincidentally (not) this ongoing therapy was spelled out in the
"Case Plan" a month back. Hmm....
Controlling? If they knew Lisa, they would not even try that.
Let's just say she has a strong personality. :)
Firemonkey: Yet she allowed her new boyfriend to babysit her
7 yr old daughter, knowing that you were spanking her and forcing her
to strip and get into cold showers. When given the choice to support
her
young daughter by kicking you out until a complete investigation was
done,
she chose you over her daughter. Hmm. I don't see the strong
personality there.
I see a woman so desperate for a man attentions she will foresake her
own child.
Need to be the victim? The assailant who attempted an
illegal removal by force on removal day Feb 8th now has
a warrant out for his arrest. DHS *IS* abuse.
Overcame DHS perjury accusing me of sexual abuse.
Logic and justice are also victims.
Domestic Abuse? From my past. None here.
My record from 4 years ago makes me an easy target for this.
No credit for having gone through Domestic Abuse classes.
Risk is everything, 2.5 years with Lisa and no incident.
Anger Management? I never needed Anger Management
until my family began suffering DHS ABUSE.
Firemonkey:Not even after you were convicted twice for beating your ex-
wife
and being investigated for abusing her children?
Doesn't this "input" to DHS skew the Psych Eval against me?
Would a letter to the judge about this "input" help?
I feel railroaded.
Firemonkey: No greg, Lisa's daughter was railroaded, by you.
Greegor
KBW > Roadrunner account was yanked due to his
KBW > stalking and harassment of a man he's
KBW > never met and doesn't know.
G > ""All available evidence""??
G > What evidence?
[ 2001 messages ]
Lesson from Austria, Would You Vote for Hitler? The testimony of Kitty
Werthman
1 Greegor Jan 1
2 Greegor Jan 10
3 Kent Wills Jan 11
4 robbielynn Jan 10
5 Greegor Jan 12
6 Kent Wills Jan 13
7 freedom Jan 12
8 Greegor Jan 14
9 Kent Wills Jan 14
10 Greegor Jan 14
What evidence?
11 Firemonkey Jan 14
Firemonkey wrote with subject: What evidence?
Are you saying that this stuff from April of 2001
is "all available evidence" that Ken's internet provider
kicked him off the internet in the year 2010?
Firemonkey
> Firemonkey wrote with subject: What evidence?
> Are you saying that this stuff from April of 2001
> is "all available evidence" that Ken's internet provider
> kicked him off the internet in the year 2010?
Is that what you think I was saying grag?
Greegor
G > Are you saying that this stuff from April of 2001
G > is "all available evidence" that Ken's internet provider
G > kicked him off the internet in the year 2010?
FM > Is that what you think I was saying grag?
Your subject line and the context of the conversation say so.
I think you're confused.
Director
Greegor <gree...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> DDM > Ken claims to be a legal professional.
> DDM > Yet he seemingly can't even keep
> DDM > his internet service active.
>
>
Flush.
freedom
>DDM > Ken claims to be a legal professional.
>DDM > Yet he seemingly can't even keep
>DDM > his internet service active.
>
>What are you talking about? His web site is running just fine!
His ability to post to usenet isn't. Neither, obviously, is his ability to=
ghost-write your posts for you. As a result, your posts are even more
idiotic than usual....if that's even possible.
>
>DDM > Prospective clients have a right to know
>DDM > that the guy they're hiring might suddenly
>DDM > be unable to correspond with them, or
>DDM > research their case, due to his internet
>DDM > service randomly being cut off for his
>DDM > harassment of strangers.
>
>What the heck are you talking about, Dave?
Have Ken explain it to you. Oops, he can't, his internet account has been
terminated. ROFL!
>
>DDM > You're so obsessed that you post pages
>DDM > upon pages of spam, regarding some
>DDM > guy who has nothing to do with you.
>DDM > Based solely upon the fact that he
>DDM > shares the same common first and last
>DDM > name as another of your targets.
>
>Dave, You've got an entire FAN CLUB of people
>who know exactly who you are and some
>of them are actually people who matter.
Too bad you're not one of them.
>
>David Daniel Moore AKA David Ulanowski Random
>DOB 9/26/70
Doesn't post here.
>
>DDM > Blow up any buildings lately, Marwan?
>
>I bet the anonymous remailer community
>will just LOVE how you attract a certain
>kind of special attention, Dave!
Your love for blowing up buildings attracts attention to me? Care to
explain that one, Marwan?
Greegor
DDM > Yet he seemingly can't even keep
DDM > his internet service active.
G > What are you talking about? His web site is running just fine!
DDM > His ability to post to usenet isn't.
On what do you base that?
DDM > Neither, obviously, is his ability to
DDM > ghost-write your posts for you. As
DDM > a result, your posts are even more
DDM > idiotic than usual....if that's even possible.
Ad Hom from you, how amazing is that?
DDM > Prospective clients have a right to know
DDM > that the guy they're hiring might suddenly
DDM > be unable to correspond with them, or
DDM > research their case, due to his internet
DDM > service randomly being cut off for his
DDM > harassment of strangers.
G > What the heck are you talking about, Dave?
DDM > Have Ken explain it to you.
DDM > Oops, he can't, his internet account
DDM > has been terminated. ROFL!
It has?
DDM > You're so obsessed that you post pages
DDM > upon pages of spam, regarding some
DDM > guy who has nothing to do with you.
DDM > Based solely upon the fact that he
DDM > shares the same common first and last
DDM > name as another of your targets.
G > Dave, You've got an entire FAN CLUB of people
G > who know exactly who you are and some
G > of them are actually people who matter.
DDM > Too bad you're not one of them.
Sure, Davey, I'm a member of your FAN CLUB, can't you tell?
G > David Daniel Moore AKA David Ulanowski Random
G > DOB 9/26/70
DDM > Doesn't post here.
You sure are concerned about somebody you claim isn't you!
DDM > Blow up any buildings lately, Marwan?
G > I bet the anonymous remailer community
G > will just LOVE how you attract a certain
G > kind of special attention, Dave!
DDM > Your love for blowing up buildings attracts
DDM > attention to me? Care to explain that one, Marwan?
Sporgery of your mark's relative claiming responsibility
for an airline crash?
Sporgery of your mark's foreign relative making
anti-dictator comments inside that country?
Sporgery solicitating murder of your mark's wife?
Falsely claiming that I am an Islamic extremist bomber?
Did you really think you were NOT attracting attention
to yourself or the anonymous remailer community, Dave?
Would a reallly genius hacker have to deny his real identity at all?
Director
Firemonkey <wass...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Jan 14, 4:47=A0am, Greegor <greego...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > What evidence?
>
>
>
>
> Message from discussion False report
Flush.
Firemonkey
Thinking is how you get yourself into trouble grag.
My posting your weak and pathetic excuses on why you would force an
unrelated little girl to undress and get into a cold shower is very
much on topic here.
You attempt to minimize your abuse of the child by citing it happened
9 years ago is noted. Just like your attempt to minimize your two
convictions for domestic violence. You tried to minimize that by
stating your wife was bi-polar.
If you have a problem with my posting this in the wrong thread I will
be happy to start some new ones, all about you.
Just keeping it real,
Firemonkey
Pack
Greegor
KBW > Roadrunner account was yanked due to his
KBW > stalking and harassment of a man he's
KBW > never met and doesn't know.
G > ""All available evidence""??
KBW > Double quotation marks still mean nothing
KBW > at all, Greg. Really.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scare_quotes
History
Use of the term scare quotes appears to have arisen at some point
during the first half of the twentieth century. Occurrence of the term
in academic literature appears as early as the 1950s.[1][2]
Usage
Writers use scare quotes for a variety of reasons. When the enclosed
text is a quotation from another source, scare quotes may indicate
that the writer does not accept the usage of the phrase (or the phrase
itself)[3], that the writer feels its use is potentially ironic, or
that the writer feels it is a misnomer. This meaning may serve to
distance the writer from the quoted content.
If scare quotes are enclosing a word or phrase that does not represent
a quotation from another source they may simply serve to alert the
reader that the word or phrase is used in an unusual, special, or non-
standard way or should be understood to include caveats to the
conventional meaning.[4]
Alternatively, material in scare quotes may represent the writer's
concise (but possibly misleading) paraphrasing, characterization, or
intentional renaming of statements, concepts, or terms used by a third
party. This may be an expression of sarcasm or incredulity. Or it may
be a rhetorical technique attempting to frame a discussion in the
writer's desired terms: a circumlocution or a means of apophasis or
innuendo.
The term scare quotes may be confusing because the word scare implies
provocation, yet the term covers emotionally neutral usage as well. In
many cases an author uses scare quotes not to convey alarm, but to
signal a semantic quibble.
KBW > You may LIE and claim the use of such equates to scare quotes,
KBW > but that lie has been exposed a number of times.
G > What evidence?
KBW > Ken's lack of posting.
But Dan stopped posting a day BEFORE Ken did.
Does that prove something?
KBW > Ken's using Earthlink to send his whinefest (listserv).
KBW > The Earthlink account tracing to a location
KBW > seven miles or more from his home.
Post the header!
Greegor
DDM > Yet he seemingly can't even keep
DDM > his internet service active.
G > What are you talking about? His web site is running just fine!
DDM > His ability to post to usenet isn't.
G > On what do you base that?
KBW > The fact that he's not posting.
But what does that same thing say about Dan Sullivan?
KBW > Given that you've claimed he's addicted to Usenet
You'll never post a link to that because it's
yet another deception from Kent Wills.
KBW > (you were lying, but that's another matter),
KBW > he would need to post.
Your grand standing sometimes gives you away.
DDM > Neither, obviously, is his ability to
DDM > ghost-write your posts for you. As
DDM > a result, your posts are even more
DDM > idiotic than usual....if that's even possible.
G > Ad Hom from you, how amazing is that?
KBW > Is it an ad hom when it's 100% true?
Kent Wills on truth? ROFL.
DDM > Prospective clients have a right to know
DDM > that the guy they're hiring might suddenly
DDM > be unable to correspond with them, or
DDM > research their case, due to his internet
DDM > service randomly being cut off for his
DDM > harassment of strangers.
G > What the heck are you talking about, Dave?
DDM > Have Ken explain it to you.
DDM > Oops, he can't, his internet account
DDM > has been terminated. ROFL!
G > It has?
KBW > All available evidence supports the claim
KBW > that it has. If you have anything to offer
KBW > that counters what is available, offer it
KBW > for review.
What you're saying is that you're full
of it and you want me to fill you in?
You just can't admit you've got NOTHING!
DDM > You're so obsessed that you post pages
DDM > upon pages of spam, regarding some
DDM > guy who has nothing to do with you.
DDM > Based solely upon the fact that he
DDM > shares the same common first and last
DDM > name as another of your targets.
G > Dave, You've got an entire FAN CLUB of people
G > who know exactly who you are and some
G > of them are actually people who matter.
DDM > Too bad you're not one of them.
G > Sure, Davey, I'm a member of your FAN CLUB, can't you tell?
G > David Daniel Moore AKA David Ulanowski Random
G > DOB 9/26/70
DDM > Doesn't post here.
G > You sure are concerned about somebody you claim isn't you!
KBW > How does David's exposing of another
KBW > of your MANY drug induced lies equate
KBW > to his being concerned about another
KBW > David Moore? Please be specific.
Kent Wills stock answer B. combined with
contradicting David's own comments.
DDM > Blow up any buildings lately, Marwan?
G > I bet the anonymous remailer community
G > will just LOVE how you attract a certain
G > kind of special attention, Dave!
DDM > Your love for blowing up buildings attracts
DDM > attention to me? Care to explain that one, Marwan?
G > Sporgery of your mark's relative claiming
G > responsibility for an airline crash?
G >
G > Sporgery of your mark's foreign relative making
G > anti-dictator comments inside that country?
G >
G > Sporgery solicitating murder of your mark's wife?
G >
G > Falsely claiming that I am an Islamic extremist bomber?
KBW > David made no such claims.
KBW > Using YOUR standards, David was able
KBW > to PROVE you were adopted from
KBW > a family of Muslim terrorists.
KBW > Hey, he used your standards.
Another false dichotomy Kent?
It's textbook psychopathic reasoning.
KBW > If you think this is somehow unfair,
KBW > perhaps you should consider no
KBW > longer DEMANDING that those
KBW > standards be held to others.
Golly, Kent, You (and Dave) sure are anxious to try
to escape being so thoroughly and correctly ID'd!
Are you and Dave like blood brothers or what?
G > Did you really think you were NOT attracting attention
G > to yourself or the anonymous remailer community, Dave?
KBW > Are you so stoned that you honestly think
KBW > the PTB within any given government aren't
KBW > aware remailers exits? Really?
There is some debate on that among the
anonymous remailer community.
Apparently those eager to promote anonymous
remailers do not believe that to be the case
because they promote anonymous remailers
as a means to BYPASS government scrutiny.
G > Would a reallly genius hacker have to deny his real identity at
all?
KBW > Outside of your latest proof that some honestly
KBW > slipped out when you admitted you use and
KBW > abuse illegal drugs,
Combination of Kent Wills stock deception B and D.
-----------------------------------------------------------------
Kent routinely says opponents are
A. Drunks
B. Druggies
C. Mentally Ill
D. Already conceded to Kent's argument
E. Question was already asked and answered ( ? )
It's as if Kent is an automation that is WAY too simple.
----------------------------------------------------------------
KBW > David's never claimed to be a hacker.
He never claimed to be a script kiddy either, but he is.
freedom
>DDM > Ken claims to be a legal professional.
>DDM > Yet he seemingly can't even keep
>DDM > his internet service active.
>
>G > What are you talking about? His web site is running just fine!
>
>DDM > His ability to post to usenet isn't.
>
>G > On what do you base that?
>
>KBW > The fact that he's not posting.
>
>But what does that same thing say about Dan Sullivan?
Probably that he has a life outside of usenet.
Ken can't honestly say the same. He's posted nearly every day for over a
decade.
Maybe he finally drank himself to death?
Yeah, you're right, there sure is a lot of "nothing" coming into this group=
from the Tampa, Florida area these days. BWAHAHAHAHA!
Now you're admitting to being a psychopath?
>
>KBW > If you think this is somehow unfair,
>KBW > perhaps you should consider no
>KBW > longer DEMANDING that those
>KBW > standards be held to others.
>
>Golly, Kent, You (and Dave) sure are anxious to try
>to escape being so thoroughly and correctly ID'd!
No need to "escape" anything. Ken's been trying to ID me for years....and
he still isn't even looking in the right part of the country. ROFLMAO!
>
>Are you and Dave like blood brothers or what?
>
>G > Did you really think you were NOT attracting attention
>G > to yourself or the anonymous remailer community, Dave?
>
>KBW > Are you so stoned that you honestly think
>KBW > the PTB within any given government aren't
>KBW > aware remailers exits? Really?
>
>There is some debate on that among the
>anonymous remailer community.
>
>Apparently those eager to promote anonymous
>remailers do not believe that to be the case
>because they promote anonymous remailers
>as a means to BYPASS government scrutiny.
In my case, I just use them so that Ken and his puppet (you) can't mailbomb=
my ISP with silly complaints, nor ascertain my geographical location. And
it works like a charm, as the two of you still devoutly believe that I'm
some guy in Illinois. So much so, in fact, that your master Ken LOST HIS
INTERNET ACCESS for harassing the wrong guy.
>
>G > Would a reallly genius hacker have to deny his real identity at
>all?
>
>KBW > Outside of your latest proof that some honestly
>KBW > slipped out when you admitted you use and
>KBW > abuse illegal drugs,
>
>Combination of Kent Wills stock deception B and D.
>
>
>-----------------------------------------------------------------
>Kent routinely says opponents are
>A. Drunks
>B. Druggies
>C. Mentally Ill
>D. Already conceded to Kent's argument
>E. Question was already asked and answered ( ? )
And your tactics:
A. Claim that your victim has been convicted of some sort of crime, using
some sort of obscure references to anyone you can find with a similar name,=
even if they obviously aren't the same person
B. Repeat the same lies over and over, often in response to completely
unrelated threads
C. Claim that your victim lives with their parents, who in most cases turn=
out to be deceased
D. Blurt out one or two word responses (but only when Ken is extremely
incommunicado)
E. Claim that everyone you're arguing with are the same person (such as
when you claimed that Kent and Dan were the same person, etc.)
>
>It's as if Kent is an automation that is WAY too simple.
ROFL oh how rich this is, coming from you! You do little more than post
the same canned responses, which Ken wrote for you months ago, over and
over. Oblivious to the fact that they were all disproven soon after Ken
first posted them.
Greegor
KBW > The fact that he's not posting.
G > But what does that same thing say about Dan Sullivan?
KBW > That Dan's life is far busier than yours, or mine.
Dan had a stroke on his napper crapper.
Greegor
KBW > The fact that he's not posting.
G > But what does that same thing say about Dan Sullivan?
KBW > That Dan's life is far busier than yours, or mine.
G > Dan had a stroke on his napper crapper.
DDM > Ken can't honestly say the same.
DDM > He's posted nearly every day for over a decade.
DDM > Maybe he finally drank himself to death?
Dan is the recovered alcoholic, Ken and I never did drink.
KBW > Unlikely. He's still able to send E-Mails via his ateam
address.
KBW > All available evidence supports the claim
KBW > that it has. If you have anything to offer
KBW > that counters what is available, offer it
KBW > for review.
G > What you're saying is that you're full
G > of it and you want me to fill you in?
G > You just can't admit you've got NOTHING!
DDM > Yeah, you're right, there sure is a lot of
DDM > "nothing" coming into this group from the
DDM > Tampa, Florida area these days. BWAHAHAHAHA!
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.child-protective-services/msg/c3a8791eb3c3f468
On Jan 15, 7:45 am, Anonymous <cri...@ecn.org> wrote:
DDM > WE SENT 10000 EMAILS TO EVERY ROADRUNNER
DDM > CUSTOMER IN THE GREATER TAMPA AREA,
DDM > CAUSEING A TEMPORARY OUTAGE. WE
DDM > EXPLAINED THAT THIS WOULD CONTINUE TO
DDM > HAPPEN AS LONG AS KEN REMAINED A CUSTOMER.
DDM > THEY OPTED TO TERMINATE HIS ACCOUNT.
DDM > LET THIS SERVE AS A WARNING THAT ANY ISP
DDM > WHO HARBOURS KEN WILL MEET THE SAME FATE.
David Daniel Moore AKA David Ulanowski Random
DOB 9/26/70 Birth Mother Judith Ulanowski
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WE SENT 10000 EMAILS TO EVERY ROADRUNNER CUSTOMER IN THE GREATER TAMPA
AREA, CAUSEING A TEMPORARY OUTAGE. WE EXPLAINED THAT THIS WOULD
CONTINUE TO
HAPPEN AS LONG AS KEN REMAINED A CUSTOMER. THEY OPTED TO TERMINATE
HIS
ACCOUNT.
LET THIS SERVE AS A WARNING THAT ANY ISP WHO HARBOURS KEN WILL MEET
THE
SAME FATE.
Lesson From Austria: Would You Vote For Hitler?
The Testimony of Kitty Werthman
Mrs. Werthman saw Hitler’s rise to power in pre-war Austria. He did
not conquer by force. He was eagerly welcomed by the people who voted
him into office because the Nazis promised free health care,
retirement income,unemployment benefits, guaranteed wages, free
nursery care, equal rights for women, gun control, and other
enticements that now are part of the political landscape in all
industrialized countries. Can we learn from Austria’s mistake before
it is too late?
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http://www.eagleforum.org/misc/states/articles/2003/werthmann-3-11-03.shtml
Kitty Werthmann
For the Argus Leader
published: 3/11/2003
Kitty Werthmann, 77, of Pierre, is president of the South Dakota Eagle
Forum. She lobbies the state Legislature on family issues. She has
lived in the United States since 1950 and has been a U.S. citizen
since 1962.
'It dawned on me. It's freedom'
Kitty Werthmann tells this story of her arrival in the United States:
"I was processed in New York. I stayed in a hotel the first night, and
the next morning asked the concierge for directions to the nearest
police station. I asked if it was in walking distance, and it was.
"I walked in and told the desk sergeant I wanted to register. He
said,'What are you talking about?' I said I wanted to register, so
they'd know where I was. How would they find me if I broke the law? He
said don't worry, they'd find me. And then he said, 'Lady, get the
hell out of here.'
"I walked outside and it was a January day with a blue sky.
"I looked up and said, 'What kind of country is this?' All of a sudden
it dawned on me. It's freedom."
Greegor
Freedom to Dictatorship in 5 years
By Mrs. Kitty Werthmann
Times: Doors open at 6 pm
Speaking from 7 pm - 10 pm
Gift of $7 Suggested at the door
From her own experience, Mrs. Kitty Werthmann will help you see we are
walking the same path as the Nazi’s. She was 12 years old living in
Austria. At that time, there was order, prayer and pictures of Jesus.
Hitler took over and all that was removed! Unemployment rose to 35%,
bank loans rose to 25%, unions called strikes, all this with 98% of
the people claiming to be Catholic!
Soon there was massive welfare. Cries went out for equal rights for
women. Socialism took women out of the home, raising the children, and
into the
factories. They took the children away from the family and raised them
by
the state. The Health department offered training for the elderly but
they were killed.
Hear her tell how the U.S. is going the same way!
[ 2007 book/video tour ]
But if the watchman see the sword come, and blow not the trumpet,
and the people be not warned; if the sword come, and take any person
from among them,
he is taken away in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at the
watchman's hand.
Ezekiel 33:6
Greegor
Kent, Are you emotionally needy?
freedom
>On Sun, 17 Jan 2010 19:54:42 -0800 (PST), Marwan Salameh
><gree...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>[...]
>
>>WE SENT 10000 EMAILS TO EVERY ROADRUNNER CUSTOMER IN THE GREATER TAMPA
>>AREA, CAUSEING A TEMPORARY OUTAGE. WE EXPLAINED THAT THIS WOULD
>>CONTINUE TO
>>HAPPEN AS LONG AS KEN REMAINED A CUSTOMER. THEY OPTED TO TERMINATE
>>HIS
>>ACCOUNT.
>>
>>LET THIS SERVE AS A WARNING THAT ANY ISP WHO HARBOURS KEN WILL MEET
>>THE
>>SAME FATE.
>
>authored the anonymous post, what do you hope to gain by deceptively
>trying to claim it was posted by another? Please be specific.
I suspected the post in question was a ploy for sympathy. Ken has done
this in the past, as well as having been proven to have used remailers to
commit forgeries.
And that's "proven" as in, with evidence which would stand up in criminal
court, not just "proof**" using Ken and Greg's goofy standards :)
> BTW, your attempt to support Ken's LIE that anyone was doing a
>DDoS attack has failed.
To date, nobody else using that ISP has reported any sort of outage.
> Everyone reading is, or should be, aware that
>his stalking and harassing the David Moore of Calumet City (Ken has
>admitted he knew CC Dave was and is not the David we know) was a major
>cause his access to be terminated.
He's known it to be a different person from the start. He admitted that
the David in question has a different middle name, and that I'm much older
than the David who was 36 years of age when he was falsely charged with a
crime in 2007 (Ken claimed that I was "nearing 40 years of age" back in
2001.)
> I can't accept that it was the
>sole cause, so there is going to be more to the story.
> On the plus side, Ken is still able to send pictures to his
>photobucket account. I got an E-mail today letting me know he posted
>a picture of a car. I didn't visit the site itself, but the thumbnail
>image contained in the E-mail looked nice.
> He's also able to send out a whinefest wherein he LIES and claims
>David and I are about to be arrested for causing him to lose his RR
>account. He really did make that claim.
ROFL! Image of Ken on the phone screaming at police: "What do you mean,
it's not the same David Moore! He's got the SAME NAME, of COURSE it's the
same person! YOU GO ARREST THIS MAN OR I'LL SUE YOU!!!!!"
I had nothing to do with contacting RR. However, I was forwarded the
following e-mail dialogue between Ken and the other David. This shows how
delusional Ken is:
----- Original Message -----
From: D Moore
To: Road Runner Abuse ; ab...@newshosting.com
Cc: Kenneth Pangborn
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 7:53 AM
Subject: Being harassed via usenet by your member
To whom it may concern:
I am being harassed by one of your members on "usenet",
kr...@tampabay.rr.com. He is posting my full name, my address, mother's
name, ex-wife and current wife's name, along with numerous allegations that=
I am a "child abuser", "porn star", "sexual predator" and an "aryan nations=
member."=20
This is a clear violation of your acceptable use policy, which prohibits
cyberbullying and harassment. It's also off-topic for the newsgroups he is=
posting it to. He also may be violating criminal cyberstalking laws,
depending upon his local laws.
As background, I have been attacked by this individual in this manner for
several months. He posts this list of "keywords" which he admits is with
the purpose of getting this false and derogatory information into search
engines about me. He does this because he has a "flame war" going on with
another individual who shares my first and last name, and he thus believes
that I am the same person, although I have attempted to explain repeatedly
that I am not. I had complained to Roadrunner several months ago, and the
abuse stopped, but has now started up again.
[David's comments end here, Ken's response begins....two decades on the
internet and he still doesn't understand the concept of quoting and
replying....]
=20
Mr. Moore yolu constantly complain of others, yet YOU have a lengthy
KEYWORD LIST that inclueds name of people YOU have obtained by HACKING my
wife's system. You also have added the names of neighbors of ours and have
carriued out harassment campaigns against them incessantly. If you would
like to have some credibility on this issue I suggest thet YOU stop ther
harassment of my wife and otyhers and your BLACKMAIL attempts on me.
=20
[Wow, I count seven typos in that first paragraph. Ken must have been in a=
fit of rage when he typed that....either that, or that back problem is
flaring up....LOL]
Would you like to engage in a discussion of your DDOS on my service
provider for my websites? There are some law enforcement agencies that will=
be VERY interested in any defense you'd care to raise, as would I. I mean
other than your absurd denials.
=20
[And it's still odd that nobody other than Ken has reported any outages.]
If you are truly NOT the David Moore that posts via anonymous
remailers, then I suggest that this is an issue you take up with him, since=
it was HE I responded to. The post you CRY about was a REPLY to DAVID MOORE=
posting as "Freedom" via the frell remailer. If you have a legitimate
gripe, I suggest you take it up with him, unless of course you and he are
one and the same person. Which I know you to be. Your past complaints have
been found to be factually wanting.=20
[Ah, yes, it's my fault that a fatass from Florida attacks strangers on the=
internet, because he thinks everyone sharing my first and last name is me.
Either that, or I held a gun to Ken's head and forced him to harass some
guy from Illinois.]
=20
Of course you DO have another option, David, that is to contact the
Detectives at the Calumet City, Illinois police, OR if you choose the
Portage, Indiana police.
[Note: to the best of my knowledge, David has no connections to "Portage,
Indiana" other than his wife having once lived there, and having been
falsely charged with a crime there nearly three years ago....]
I might suggest that you might find that neither will be very receptive
to you. But I am certain they'd like to take a long hard look at your
computers.
[Ah, yes, an effort to dissuade David from seeking justice, by trying to
scare him into believing that Big Brother is going to confiscate his
computer, etc. etc.]
Or if you relaly would like, you could contact the detective bureau of the=
Pinellas County Sheriff's office and make a complaint.=20
[Ken no longer lives in Pinellas County....nice try at misdirection]
But David they would not accept an ANONYMOUS complaint, but fully
verifiable. The Pasco County Sheriff's office would be equally eager to
speak with you. You may choose how to proceed, Mr. Moore.
=20
[It looks like he did, indeed, choose.....ROFL]
Greegor
But the people who matter know exactly who and what you are.
David Daniel Moore AKA David Ulanowski Random
DOB 9/26/70 Birth Mother Judith Ulanowski
http://www.malevolentmoms.info/
Domain ID:D17039630-LRMS
Domain Name:MALEVOLENTMOMS.INFO
Created On:28-Mar-2007 23:12:21 UTC
Last Updated On:28-May-2007 20:36:43 UTC
Expiration Date:28-Mar-2008 23:12:21 UTC
Sponsoring Registrar:Go Daddy Software Inc (R171-LRMS)
Status:CLIENT DELETE PROHIBITED
Status:CLIENT RENEW PROHIBITED
Status:CLIENT TRANSFER PROHIBITED
Status:CLIENT UPDATE PROHIBITED
Registrant ID:GODA-029624659
Registrant Name:dave moore
Registrant Organization:
Registrant Street1:po box 702
Registrant Street2:
Registrant Street3:
Registrant City:portage
Registrant State/Province:Indiana
Registrant Postal Code:46368
Registrant Country:US
Registrant Phone:+1.12624786077
Registrant Phone Ext.:
Registrant FAX:
Registrant FAX Ext.:
Registrant Email:malevolentm...@gmail.com
Admin ID:GODA-229624659
Admin Name:dave moore
Admin Organization:
Admin Street1:po box 702
Admin Street2:
Admin Street3:
Admin City:portage
Admin State/Province:Indiana
Admin Postal Code:46368
Admin Country:US
Admin Phone:+1.6306609177
Admin Phone Ext.:
Admin FAX:
Admin FAX Ext.:
Admin Email:malevolentm...@gmail.com
Billing ID:GODA-329624659
Billing Name:dave moore
Billing Organization:
Billing Street1:po box 702
Billing Street2:
Billing Street3:
Billing City:portage
Billing State/Province:Indiana
Billing Postal Code:46368
Billing Country:US
Billing Phone:+1.6306609177
Billing Phone Ext.:
Billing FAX:
Billing FAX Ext.:
Billing Email:malevolentm...@gmail.com
Tech ID:GODA-129624659
Tech Name:dave moore
Tech Organization:
Tech Street1:po box 702
Tech Street2:
Tech Street3:
Tech City:portage
Tech State/Province:Indiana
Tech Postal Code:46368
Tech Country:US
Tech Phone:+1.6306609177
Tech Phone Ext.:
Tech FAX:
Tech FAX Ext.:
Tech Email:malevolentm...@gmail.com
Name Server:NS39.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
Name Server:NS40.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
=============================================
Moore Linda webpage
NOTE LOCATION OF REGISTRATION "PORTAGE INDIANA" Note name DAVE
MOORE ;
Linda Michelle Boss of Centralia, Missouri is a 32-year old mother of
four.
In 2006, she began having an extramarital affair with a coworker at
the
SONIC restaurant where she worked, a teenaged boy named Brice Wayne
Windsor.
She then attempted to eradicate her children's father, who has always
been
an involved parent, from their lives, through tactics such as
threats,
attempted baseless restraining orders interference with phone
communication,
violation of parenting time agreements and brainwashing her children
with
lies regarding their father.
In April 2006, Boss attempted to obtain a restraining order which
would have
prevented any contact between the father and the four children. The
grounds
for her request were, in part, (1) that he called police when she and
her
friends threatened him, (2) that he told his daughter that he might
come to
watch her at her school track meet. Understandably, the court denied
her
request for an order of protection.
Boss and Windsor have repeatedly interfered with the father's attempts
to
communicate with his children. Often, one or the other would pick up
the
phone when he called, shout an obscenity or a threat, then hang up the
phone
before he could ask to speak with his children. On one such occasion,
Brice
Windsor answered the phone and stated "When I get done with your wife,
I'm
going to [rape] your daughters" while Boss laughed in the background.
The
daughters were 13 and 12 years of age at the time of this incident.
Postal mail which is sent to the children never seems to make it to
them.
Most notably, after Boss had the telephone service disconnected, a
prepaid
phone card was mailed to the daughter but never reached her.
On multiple occasions, Boss agreed to the father having specific dates
and
times of parenting time with the children, then violated the
agreements and
hid the children from the father when he traveled to pick them up (a
seven-hour drive one way.) As a result of her lack of moral character,
Boss
also became pregnant with an illegitimate child while she was still
married
to her children's father. Although it was physically and medically
impossible for him to have fathered the child, Boss fraudulently
reported
the matter to Social Services and is attempting to obtain child
support for
Jade Elizabeth Windsor, due to Windsor's apparent inability to support
his
own (alleged) child.
Due to her financial irresponsibility, Boss' home was foreclosed on.
The
four children have had to be uprooted from their home for the fourth
time in
as many years, and she has now packed them into a tiny trailer with
Brice
Windsor and his family.
Among Boss' other abusive actions
. Her ten-year old son stated that he was hungry. Boss told him "fend
for
yourself." The child then tried to cook dinner for himself and
severely
burned himself. The mother did not seek treatment.
. Left her daughter home alone with a broken leg so that she could
meet
Brice Windsor for her affair.
. Left six-year old child home without supervision while having an
extramarital affair.
. Inability to keep a job for any length of time, due to her inability
to
get along with anyone.
-----------------
Hometown
Centralia, Missouri
Birthdate October 12, 1974
Occupation
SONIC carhop, gas station clerk
Claims to shame
Repeated violations of parenting agreements;
extramarital affair with teenaged boy in front of children;
parental alienation/brainwashing of children;
numerous instances of child abuse and neglect;
became pregnant from her affair while still married
Audio
Linda Boss brags about bad legal advice
=======================================================
Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 12:53:01 -0500
From: "Joseph M. O'Connor" <jmo...@geocities.com>
Reply-To: jmo...@geocities.com
To: PangK <Pa...@aol.com>
Subject: Re: I'm dying to know. References:
<89a8b040.34fea...@aol.com>
[ ... ]
DDM> Oh, and btw....you might want to give a message to your friend
oconner.
DDM> He's been gloating around the newsgroups about having gotten me
fired
DDM> from my job....I should clarify the situation a little. I'm a
DDM> consultant....meaning that I get sent to various companies to do
work
DDM> for a prescribed amount of time. In this case it was Saralee. My
DDM> contract was to be finished at the end of January....jmoc's
antics
DDM> simply caused it to end about eight days early. I was never a
Saralee
DDM> employee and therefore they CANNOT fire me. I am an employee of
a
DDM> consulting agency, which FWIW had me working again at another
company
DDM> within two days. I only bring this up because I hear you and
friends
DDM> rubbing it in about my "unemployment", and think it's kinda odd.
=======================================================
http://www.thetimesonline.com/articles/2007/06/10/news/porter_county/...
Sunday, June 10, 2007 | No comments posted.
Sex offender accused of not registering
PORTAGE | A sex offender who police say was evicted from his Portage
home on
May 22 and then failed to notify police of a new address within 72
hours as
is required by law has been arrested on a felony charge of failure to
register as a sex offender.
Battery | Todd Yates, 28, 2970 Monnier St., Portage; ****David Moore,
36,
Calumet City*****; Paul Dimiceli, 30, Dyer; Johnathan Brandon, 18,
2104
Lapine St., Portage; Nicholas Mandich, 23, 309 Kraus Drive,
Valparaiso;
Derek Nowacki, 27, 1018 S. 22nd St., Chesterton; Jeffery Knight, 40,
717
George St., Valparaiso; Devena Anderson, 31, East Chicago; David
Carlson,
40, 644 N. Calumet, Valparaiso; Roger Reese, 53, 3461 Sunnyside,
Portage.
ARRESTS
> Monday through Friday [ June 4 to June 8 ]
> Battery David Moore, 36, Calumet City
> David Daniel Moore court records: David D. Moore
> DOB 9/26/70 850 Buffalo Avenue, Calumet City, IL
> case 64D 060706FD 4989 Monday June 4th 2007
> Class D Felony, Assault on somebody under 14 years old
> pretrial February 8th 8:30 hearing on March 12th 1PM
> The North Porter County complex is in Portage, Indiana
David Daniel Moore AKA David Ulanowski Random
DOB 9/26/70 Birth Mother Judith Ulanowski
Front Left pine tree and tree on blvd
Front Right pine tree stop sign
Right Side with bird feeder
Right Rear door
Parcel details
http://198.173.15.21/ccao/ParcelDetails.asp?PIN=30182330330000
Map
http://198.173.15.21/ccao/MapIndex.asp?action=parcel&PIN=30182330330000
Photo
http://198.173.15.21/AssessorPics/GeoSpan/30182330330000.jpg
http://www.cookcountyassessor.com/data/searchflat/ParcelImage.asp?pin=30182330330000
Dave's Adoptive Mother Janet M Moore 68 Calumet City, IL
http://www.whitepages.com/search/ReverseAddress?street=850+buffalo+ave&where=Calumet+City%2C+IL
Dave's Birth Mother Judith A ULANOWSKI 71 Johnstown, PA
http://www.whitepages.com/search/FindPerson?firstname=judith&name=ulanowski&where=Johnstown%2C+PA
http://www.whitepages.com/search/ReverseAddress?street=116+donald+lane&where=Johnstown%2C+PA
http://www.ancestry.com/facts/Ulanowski-family-history.ashx
Ulanowski Name Meaning and History
Polish: habitational name for someone from any of various places in
Poland called Ulany, Ulanów, or Ulanowice. The places are named with
the Polish personal name Ulan.
http://198.173.15.21/ccao/ParcelDetails.asp?PIN=30182330330000
Cook County Assessor's Office: Property Search Details
Property Index Number: 30-18-233-033-0000
View Property Picture
View Property Map
Address : 850 Buffalo Ave
City : Calumet City
Township : Thornton
Neighborhood : 61
Taxcode : 37030
Assessed Valuation
2008
First Pass Assessment 2007
Board of Review Certified
Land Assessed Value 3,025
2,521
Building Assessed Value 16,434
14,957
Total Assessed Value 19,459
17,478
Estimated Market Value 121,619
109,238
Property Characteristics
Class: 2-11
Description : Two to Six Apartments, Over 62 Years
Residence Type Two Story
Use Multi Family
Apartments Two
Exterior Construction Masonry
Full Baths 2
Half Baths 0
Basement1 Partial and Rec Room
Attic None
Central Air No
Number of Fireplaces 1
Garage Size/Type2 2.5 car detached
Building Square Footage: 1,752
Land Square Footage 6,304
Assessment Pass First Pass
Age: 27
Land Square Footage: 6,304
1 Excluded from Building Square footage, except apartment
2 Excluded from Building Square footage
Sunday, June 10, 2007
ARRESTS
Monday through Friday [ June 4 to June 8 ]
Battery David Moore, 36, Calumet City
David Daniel Moore court records: David D. Moore
DOB 9/26/70 850 Buffalo Avenue, Calumet City, IL
case 64D 060706FD 4989 Monday June 4th 2007
Class D Felony, Assault on somebody under 14 years old
pretrial February 8th 8:30 hearing on March 12th 1PM
The North Porter County complex is in Portage, Indiana
219 759 8219 no e-records, won't fax or e-mail records
paid $2000 bond, Attorney Robert Harper Portage, Indiana
does not have a probation officer pre-trial
Keywords:
850 Buffalo Avenue, Calumet City, Illinois 60409,
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850 Buffalo Avenue, Calumet City, Illinois 60409,
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AKA David ULANOWSKI Random,
Greegor
G > But the people who matter know exactly who and what you are.
KBW > We do. And we know NONE of what
KBW > you dishonestly claim about David is true.
Kent thinks HE is "people who matter" ? Of course! LOL
Yet he removed alt.law-enforcement from the cross post list.
Greegor
G > But the people who matter know exactly who and what you are.
KBW > We do. And we know NONE of what
KBW > you dishonestly claim about David is true.
G > Kent thinks HE is "people who matter" ? Of course! LOL
KBW > I am only one person, Greg. I understand the
KBW > mental defects you have, the same ones you
KBW > made the tactic admission, by your won
KBW > standards, are the result of your use and
KBW > abuse of illegal drugs,
Kent Wills stock deception B further down.
KBW > compels you to believe I am multiple people,
KBW > but I am not. Deal with it.
G > Kent thinks HE is "people who matter" ? Of course! LOL
G > Yet he removed alt.law-enforcement from the cross post list.
KBW > I've removed irrelevant groups from many
KBW > of my replies. I've been doing it for months.
KBW > Only now do you notice?
It's just a delicious irony.
G > Kent thinks HE is "people who matter" ? Of course! LOL
G > Yet he removed alt.law-enforcement from the cross post list.
Kent Wills AKA Kent Bradley Wills AKA Compuelf AKA (various) DOB Jan 8
1969 Two Felony Garage Burglar used teen as accomplice
http://www.myspace.com/29801731
http://www.myspace.com/KBWILLS
http://s212.photobucket.com/albums/cc127/kwills_photo/
Kent routinely says opponents are
A. Drunks
B. Druggies
C. Mentally Ill
D. Already conceded to Kent's argument
E. Question was already asked and answered ( ? )
It's as if Kent is an automation that is WAY too simple.
Kent's Appeal
IN PRINTED LAW BOOKS
West's North Western Reporter
Second Series
A Unit of the National Reporter System
Volume 696 N.W.2d
Cite as 696 N.W.2d 20 (Iowa 2005)
Kent's Appeal
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http://www.doc.state.ia.us/InmateInfo.asp?OffenderCd=1155768
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Notice that KENT made claims re sale of 202 NW College apartment
building
That's geoparcel gp=802415452029
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( Step by step instructions elsewhere with name Kent B Wills )
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http://www.rogersgis.com/zoom/Residential_Development/indexfull.htm
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TWO of Kent Wills' usenet newsgroup identities:
Do It Yourself Instructions to look up Kent's record
Iowa Department of Corrections records for Kent
http://www.doc.state.ia.us/InmateInfo.asp?OffenderCd=1155768
Name Kent Bradley Wills [ As Collected Sept 13, 2009 ]
Offender Number 1155768
Sex M
Birth Date 01/08/1969
Age 40
Location
Offense
County Of Commitment
Commitment Date
Duration
TDD/SDD *
* TDD = Tentative Discharge Date
* SDD = Supervision Discharge Date
Supervision Status Offense Class County of Commitment End Date
Probation Aggravated Misdemeanor Polk 12/16/2008
Probation C Felony Polk 12/16/2008
Supervision Status Offense Class County of Commitment End Date
Probation Aggravated Misdemeanor Polk 11/25/2003
IN PRINTED LAW BOOKS
West's North Western Reporter
Second Series
A Unit of the National Reporter System
Volume 696 N.W.2d
Cite as 696 N.W.2d 20 (Iowa 2005)
Kent's Appeal
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IN THE SUPREME COURT OF IOWA
No. 31 / 04-0202
Filed May 6, 2005
STATE OF IOWA,
Appellee,
vs.
KENT BRADLEY WILLS,
Appellant.
Appeal from the Iowa District Court for Polk
County, Michael D. Huppert, Judge.
Defendant appeals claiming ineffective
assistance of counsel. AFFIRMED.
Linda Del Gallo, State Appellate Defender,
and Tricia Johnston, Assistant State
Appellate Defender, for appellant.
Thomas J. Miller, Attorney General, Kevin
Cmelik, Assistant Attorney General, John P.
Sarcone, County Attorney, and John Judisch,
Assistant County Attorney, for appellee.
WIGGINS, Justice.
Kent Wills appeals his conviction for
second-degree burglary contending that
an attached garage is a separate occupied
structure from that of the living quarters
of the residence. In this appeal, we must
determine whether trial counsel was
ineffective for (1) failing to move for
judgment of acquittal on the basis there
was insufficient evidence to convict Wills
of second-degree burglary when he entered
an attached garage of a residence when no
persons were present in the garage, but
when persons were present in the living
quarters; and (2) failing to object to a
jury instruction based on this same
argument. Because we find there was no
legal basis for the motion for judgment
of acquittal or the objection to the jury
instruction, Wills' trial counsel was not
ineffective. Accordingly, we affirm the
judgment of the district court.
I. Background Facts and Proceedings.
Around 1 a.m., an Ankeny resident called
the local police to report that a car
alarm sounded in the resident's
neighborhood. The city dispatched a police
officer to the location. Observing nothing
unusual, the officer left the area, only
to be stopped a couple of blocks later
by a person who informed the officer he
had witnessed someone running from the
area of the car alarm. As the officer
started driving back to the area of the
car alarm, he noticed a person walking
on the sidewalk. The officer asked the
person, a minor, if he had noticed anybody
running from the area. The minor answered
that he had not. While the officer and
another officer were speaking to the minor,
another resident of the neighborhood
arrived in her car and informed the
officers that she had observed two people,
one of whom was heavy set with a blinking
light on his back pocket, walking in the
area of her neighbor's residence. She
observed the heavier-set individual, later
identified as Wills, enter her neighbor's
attached garage through an unlocked service
door. She further observed a smaller
individual standing by a van parked in
the neighbor's driveway.
The officers eventually let the minor leave
even though they found a large amount of
coins, a flashlight, and an electronic
pocket organizer in his pockets. After
releasing the minor, the police officers
drove to the residence where the neighbor
observed the two suspicious people and
woke the owner. The owner, his wife,
and two daughters were in the residence
sleeping at the time. After a search
of his vehicles, the owner discovered
change and an electronic pocket organizer
were missing from the vehicles. The
owner's daughter reported a diamond ring
and some change were missing from her
vehicle. The officers then contacted
the minor's parents, who informed the
officers the minor was with Wills. After
the officers questioned the minor again,
he admitted his involvement in the theft
and implicated Wills in the burglary.
Although Wills denied involvement in the
burglary, the officers arrested him.
The State filed a trial information
charging Wills with second-degree
burglary. The State later amended the
information to include two additional
charges of burglary in the third degree
and using a juvenile to commit an
indictable offense.
The jury returned a verdict finding Wills
guilty of the crimes of burglary in the
second degree, burglary in the third
degree, and using a juvenile to commit
an indictable offense. Wills appeals his
conviction for second-degree burglary
claiming ineffective assistance of
counsel.
II. Scope of Review.
Claims of ineffective assistance of counsel
are derived from the Sixth Amendment of the
United States Constitution. Strickland v.
Washington, 466 U.S. 668, 684-86, 104 S.
Ct. 2052, 2063-64, 80 L. Ed. 2d 674, 691-93
(1984). Our review for a claim involving
violations of the Constitution is de novo.
State v. Fintel, 689 N.W.2d 95, 100
(Iowa 2004). We normally preserve
ineffective-assistance-of-counsel claims
for postconviction relief actions. State
v. Carter, 602 N.W. 2d 818, 820 (Iowa 1999).
However, we will address such claims on
direct appeal when the record is sufficient
to permit a ruling. State v. Artzer,
609 N.W.2d 526, 531 (Iowa 2000). The
appellate record in the present case is
sufficient to allow us to address Wills'
ineffective-assistance-of-counsel claims
on direct appeal.
In order for a defendant to succeed on a
claim of ineffective assistance of counsel,
the defendant must prove: (1) counsel
failed to perform an essential duty and
(2) prejudice resulted. Id. Prejudice
results when "there is a reasonable
probability that, but for the counsel's
unprofessional errors, the result of the
proceeding would have been different."
State v. Hopkins, 576 N.W.2d 374, 378
(Iowa 1998) (quoting Strickland, 466
U.S. at 694, 104 S. Ct. at 2068,
80 L. Ed. 2d at 698). Wills' arguments
also raise issues of statutory
interpretation, which we review for
correction of errors at law. State v.
Wolford Corp., 689 N.W.2d 471, 473 (Iowa 2004).
III. Analysis.
To find Wills guilty of burglary in the
second degree, the State had to prove
Wills perpetrated a burglary "in or
upon an occupied structure in which one
or more persons are present . . . ." Iowa
Code § 713.5(2) (2003) (emphasis added).
In this appeal, Wills first contends his
trial counsel was ineffective for failing
to move for a judgment of acquittal on
the basis there was insufficient evidence
to support a finding that at the time Wills
entered the garage, there were persons
present in or upon the occupied structure.
Wills concedes the garage was an occupied
structure, but argues the living quarters
and the attached garage are separate and
independent occupied structures; therefore,
the jury could not have found there were
people present in the attached garage
at the time of the burglary.
The Code defines an "occupied structure" as:
[A]ny building, structure, appurtenances
to buildings and structures, land, water
or air vehicle, or similar place adapted
for overnight accommodation of persons,
or occupied by persons for the purpose of
carrying on business or other activity
therein, or for the storage or safekeeping
of anything of value. Such a structure
is an "occupied structure" whether or not
a person is actually present.
Id. § 702.12.
Wills relies on State v. Smothers, 590
N.W.2d 721 (Iowa 1999), to argue the
garage and the living quarters are separate
and independent occupied structures. In
Smothers, two separate and distinct
businesses connected by interior fire doors
were operated in the same structure.
590 N.W.2d at 723. We held the defendant
committed two burglaries by entering each
business because "[t]he facility's
construction history and physical make-up
demonstrate that the portions are
independent working units which constitute
'[a] combination of materials to form a
construction for occupancy [or] use.'" Id.
Smothers is not at odds with the present
case because the living quarters and the
garage are not separate or independent
units of the residence.
Our review of the record reveals the garage
in question was a three-car attached garage
separated from the living quarters by a
door. The same roof covered the garage as
the rest of the residence. The living
quarters surrounded the garage on two sides.
It was structurally no different from any
other room in the residence.
The garage was a functional part of the
residence. On the night of the incident,
the door was unlocked. The owner of the
residence used two stalls in the garage to
park the family vehicles. The owner used
the third stall for his motorcycle. As
such, the garage and the living quarters
are a single "structure" or "building"
functioning as an integral part of the
family residence. Thus, the residence
including the garage is a single
"occupied structure" under section 702.12.
See, e.g., People v. Ingram, 48 Cal. Rptr.
2d 256 (Ct. App.1995) (holding defendant's
entry into an attached garage constituted
first-degree burglary because the garage
was attached to the house; therefore,
burglary of the garage was burglary of
an inhabited dwelling house); People v.
Cunningham, 637 N.E.2d 1247, 1252 (Ill.
App. Ct. 1994) (holding "ordinarily an
attached garage is a 'dwelling' because
it is part of the structure in which
the owner or occupant lives");
State v. Lara, 587 P.2d 52, 53
(N.M. Ct. App. 1978) (holding "burglary
of the [attached] garage was burglary of
the dwelling house because the garage was
a part of the structure used as living
quarters"); People v. Green, 141 A.D.2d
760, 761 (N.Y. App. Div. 1988) (holding
"[s]ince the garage in the present case
was structurally part of a building
which was used for overnight lodging of
various persons, it must be considered
as part of a dwelling"); White v. State,
630 S.W. 2d 340, 342 (Tex. Ct. App. 1982)
(holding an attached garage under the
same roof as the home would be considered
a habitation within the purview of the
penal code because the garage is a
structure appurtenant to and connected
to the house); State v. Murbach, 843 P.
2d 551, 553 (Wash. Ct. App 1993)
(holding the definition of a dwelling
under Washington's burglary statute
included an attached garage).
Had Wills' trial counsel moved for a
judgment of acquittal on the basis there
was insufficient evidence to support
a finding that at the time Wills
entered the garage there were no persons
present in or upon the occupied
structure, it would have been overruled
by the court because the owner and his
family were present in the residence at
the time of the burglary.
Wills also claims his counsel was
ineffective for failing to object to
the jury instruction used by the district
court on the same ground; that the
living quarters were a separate and
independent occupied structure from the
attached garage. The instruction as
given stated:
The State must prove all of the following
elements of Burglary in the Second
Degree as to Count I:
1. On or about the 12th day of August,
2003, the defendant or someone he aided
and abetted broke into or entered the
residence at . . . .
2. The residence at . . . was an occupied
structure as defined in Instruction No. 29.
3. The defendant or the person he aided
and abetted did not have permission or
authority to break into the residence at ...
4. The defendant or the person he aided
and abetted did so with the specific
intent to commit a theft therein.
5. During the incident persons were present
in or upon the occupied structure.
If the State has proved all of the elements,
the defendant is guilty of Burglary in the
Second Degree. If the State has failed to prove
any of the elements, the defendant is not
guilty of Burglary in the Second Degree and
you will then consider the charge of
Attempted Burglary in the Second Degree
explained in Instruction No. 21.
(Emphasis added.)
Wills' claim is without merit. As we have
discussed, the residence is the one and
only "occupied structure" under the facts
of this case. Had Wills' trial counsel
made this objection to the instruction,
it would have been overruled.
Therefore, Wills' trial counsel is not
ineffective for failing to move
for a judgment of acquittal or objecting
to the instruction because there was no
legal basis for the motion or objection.
See State v. Hochmuth, 585 N.W.2d 234,
238 (Iowa 1998) (holding trial counsel was
not ineffective for failing to raise an
issue that has no merit).
IV. Disposition.
We affirm the judgment of the district
court because Wills' trial counsel was
not ineffective for failing to raise
meritless issues.
AFFIRMED.
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Pay close attention to past owners of 202 NW College Ave.
Kent made affirmative claims about the property online.
Kent's folks sold it in 1994 while Kent lived there!
On 03/30/1999 Sweeney's filed on Kent for UNPAID RENT!
GeoParcel 8024-15-452-029 District/Parcel 181/00392-048-000
[ As Collected Sept 13, 2009 ]
Seller: WILLS, FRED A. & JANET R.
Buyer: THE SWEENEY REVOCABLE GRANTOR TRUST
04/26/1994 135,000 D/Deed 7010/188
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Seller: SHELDAHL, ERIC A.
Buyer: WILLS, FRED
01/02/1990 130,500 D/Deed 6189/972
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Notice that name SWEENEY above?
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02401 ESPR015146 INA J WILLS ESTATE
05771 FECR145250 STATE VS KENT 01/08/1969
05771 FECR176876 STATE VS KENT 01/08/1969
05771 SCSC310505 SWEENEY RENTALS VS KENT ******
05771 SCSC335210 CITI FINANCIAL VS KENT
05771 SCSC374163 SFI F SCHERLE PRES VS KENT
05771 SCSC374164 SFI F SCHERLE III PRES VS KENT
05771 STAN201670 IOWA vs [ KENT ] 01/08/1969
05771 STAN210929 IOWA vs [ KENT ] 01/08/1969
05771 SWCR177169 STATE VS KENT 01/08/1969
A list of case numbers will be presented.
Click on the SWEENEY case, 4th one down.
Under the "Filings" tab:
JUDGEMENT DEFAULT BRANDT GREGORY D 08/25/1999 09/01/1999 09/01/1999
Comments: $156.25 7.244% FROM 03/30/99
COMPUTER GENERATED NOTICE 05/11/1999 05/11/1999 05/11/1999
Comments: Notice of Proof of Claim
RETURN OF ORIGINAL NOTICE 04/21/1999 04/23/1999 04/23/1999
Comments: 4/10/99 KENT PERS
37.60
VERIFICATION OF ACCT HAS BEEN FILED 03/30/1999 03/30/1999
03/30/1999
SMALL CLAIMS ORIGINAL NOTICE SWEENEY RENTALS 03/30/1999 03/30/1999
03/30/1999
Comments: UNPAID RENT
Under the "Financial" Tab:
Summary Orig Paid Due
COSTS 98.60 31.00 67.60
FINE 0.00 0.00 0.00
SURCHARGE 0.00 0.00 0.00
RESTITUTION 0.00 0.00 0.00
OTHER 238.46 0.00 238.46
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$337.06 $31.00 $306.06
SUPPORT/ALIMONY N/A 0.00 N/A
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Kent's 2000 Felony, first of TWO in Iowa
WILLS, KENT BRADLEY 05771 FECR145250 (POLK)
01/24/2000 Offense Date THEFT 2ND DEGREE - 1978 (FELD) WITHDRAWN
01/24/2000 Offense Date THEFT 3RD DEGREE - 1978 (AGMS)
03/07/2000 DEFERRED JUDGMENT (At that time) Sentence: 365 Day(s)
03/07/2000 PROBATION INFORMAL; 8/07/01-TRNFRD TO FORMAL 365 Day(s)
03/07/2000 COMMUNITY SERVICE 50 Hour(s)
03/07/2000 REFERRED TO OTHER AGENCY 1ST TIME OFFENDER CLASS
08/07/2001 JAIL PROB HRG 11 Day(s)
08/07/2001 JAIL PROB HRG 11 Day(s) TIME SERVED
08/07/2001 PROBATION EXTENDED PROB HRG
04/16/2002 PROBATION EXTENDED TO 08/06/03
04/16/2002 IMPOSED 7 Day(s)
04/16/2002 OTHER/MISCELLANEOUS PROB HRG 6 Day(s)
04/16/2002 DETENTION PROB HRG 6 Day(s)
08/07/2003 PRIOR ORDERS CONTINUED PROB EXTENDED UNTIL 8-06-04
11/26/2003 REVOKED PROB HRG; PROBATION/DJ REVOKED; JAIL
11/26/2003 PLACEMENT HRG PROBATION/DJ REVOKED; JAIL120 Day(s)
11/26/2003 SUSPEND PROBATION/DJ REVOKED; TIME SERVED 106 Day(s)
11/26/2003 COMMUNITY CORR PROBATION/DJ REVOKED; JAIL 14 Day(s)
( When Kent's second Felony revoked the rest of his Probation.)
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05771 FECR145250 STATE VS KENT 01/08/1969
05771 FECR176876 STATE VS KENT 01/08/1969
05771 SCSC310505 SWEENEY RENTALS VS KENT ******
05771 SCSC335210 CITI FINANCIAL VS KENT
05771 SCSC374163 SFI F SCHERLE PRES VS KENT
05771 SCSC374164 SFI F SCHERLE III PRES VS KENT
05771 STAN201670 IOWA vs [ KENT ] 01/08/1969
05771 STAN210929 IOWA vs [ KENT ] 01/08/1969
05771 SWCR177169 STATE VS KENT 01/08/1969
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Under the "[Criminal Charges/Disposition]" tab:
Charges, Dispositions, Sentences
Title: STATE VS KENT B WILLS
Case: 05771 FECR145250 (POLK)
Citation Number:
Defendant: WILLS, KENT BRADLEY
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Count 01 Charge
Charge:
714.2(2) Description: THEFT 2ND DEGREE - 1978 (FELD)
Offense Date: 01/24/2000 Arrest Date: Against Type:
DPS Number:
0386367-01
Adjudication
Charge:
714.2(2) Description: THEFT 2ND DEGREE - 1978 (FELD)
Adj.:
DNU-WITHDRAWN Adj.Date: 03/07/2000
Adj.Judge:
WILSON, ROBERT D
Comments: AMENDED TI FILED
Sentence
Charge:
714.2(2) Description: THEFT 2ND DEGREE - 1978 (FELD)
Sentence Date:
03/07/2000 Sentence: WITHDRAWN
Appeal:
Sen.Judge: WILSON, ROBERT D
Facility Type:
Attorney: N
Restitution:
N Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration:
Comment:
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Count 02 Charge
Charge:
714.2(3) Description: THEFT 3RD DEGREE - 1978 (AGMS)
Offense Date: 01/24/2000 Arrest Date: Against Type:
DPS Number:
0386367-02
Adjudication
Charge:
714.2(3) Description: THEFT 3RD DEGREE - 1978 (AGMS)
Adj.:
DEFERRED Adj.Date: 03/07/2000
Adj.Judge:
WILSON, ROBERT D
Comments:
Sentence
Charge:
714.2(3) Description: THEFT 3RD DEGREE - 1978 (AGMS)
Sentence Date:
03/07/2000 Sentence: DEFERRED JUDGMENT
Appeal:
Sen.Judge: WILSON, ROBERT D
Facility Type:
Attorney: N
Restitution:
N Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 365 Day(s)
Comment:
Sentence
Charge:
714.2(3) Description: THEFT 3RD DEGREE - 1978 (AGMS)
Sentence Date:
03/07/2000 Sentence: PROBATION
Appeal:
Sen.Judge: WILSON, ROBERT D
Facility Type:
Attorney: N
Restitution:
N Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 365 Day(s)
Comment:
INFORMAL;8/07/01-TRNFRD TO FORMAL
Sentence
Charge:
714.2(3) Description: THEFT 3RD DEGREE - 1978 (AGMS)
Sentence Date:
03/07/2000 Sentence: COMMUNITY SERVICE
Appeal:
Sen.Judge: WILSON, ROBERT D
Facility Type:
Attorney: N
Restitution:
N Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 50 Hour(s)
Comment:
TO BE DETERMINED BY PROBATION
Sentence
Charge:
714.2(3) Description: THEFT 3RD DEGREE - 1978 (AGMS)
Sentence Date:
03/07/2000 Sentence: REFERRED TO OTHER AGENCY
Appeal:
Sen.Judge: WILSON, ROBERT D
Facility Type:
Attorney: N
Restitution:
N Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration:
Comment:
1ST TIME OFFENDER CLASS
Sentence
Charge:
714.2(3) Description: THEFT 3RD DEGREE - 1978 (AGMS)
Sentence Date:
08/07/2001 Sentence: JAIL
Appeal:
Sen.Judge: JACOBS, LOUISE M
Facility Type:
Attorney: N
Restitution:
N Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 11 Day(s)
Comment:
PROB HRG
Sentence
Charge:
714.2(3) Description: THEFT 3RD DEGREE - 1978 (AGMS)
Sentence Date:
08/07/2001 Sentence: TIME SERVED
Appeal:
Sen.Judge: JACOBS, LOUISE M
Facility Type:
J Attorney: N
Restitution:
N Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 11 Day(s)
Comment:
PROB HRG
Sentence
Charge:
714.2(3) Description: THEFT 3RD DEGREE - 1978 (AGMS)
Sentence Date:
08/07/2001 Sentence: PROBATION EXTENDED
Appeal:
Sen.Judge: JACOBS, LOUISE M
Facility Type:
Attorney: N
Restitution:
N Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration:
Comment:
PROB HRG-4/16/02-PROBATION EXTENDED TO 08/06/03
Sentence
Charge:
714.2(3) Description: THEFT 3RD DEGREE - 1978 (AGMS)
Sentence Date:
04/16/2002 Sentence: IMPOSED
Appeal:
Sen.Judge: COPPOLA, CAROL L
Facility Type:
J Attorney: N
Restitution:
N Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 7 Day(s)
Comment:
PROB HRG
Sentence
Charge:
714.2(3) Description: THEFT 3RD DEGREE - 1978 (AGMS)
Sentence Date:
04/16/2002 Sentence: OTHER/MISCELLANEOUS
Appeal:
Sen.Judge: COPPOLA, CAROL L
Facility Type:
Attorney: N
Restitution:
N Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 6 Day(s)
Comment:
PROB HRG
Sentence
Charge:
714.2(3) Description: THEFT 3RD DEGREE - 1978 (AGMS)
Sentence Date:
04/16/2002 Sentence: DETENTION
Appeal:
Sen.Judge: COPPOLA, CAROL L
Facility Type:
Attorney: N
Restitution:
N Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 6 Day(s)
Comment:
PROB HRG
Sentence
Charge:
714.2(3) Description: THEFT 3RD DEGREE - 1978 (AGMS)
Sentence Date:
08/07/2003 Sentence: PRIOR ORDERS CONTINUED
Appeal:
Sen.Judge: MCGHEE, ODELL
Facility Type:
Attorney: N
Restitution:
N Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration:
Comment:
PROB EXTENDED UNTIL 8-06-04
Sentence
Charge:
714.2(3) Description: THEFT 3RD DEGREE - 1978 (AGMS)
Sentence Date:
11/26/2003 Sentence: REVOKED
Appeal:
Sen.Judge: SMITH, JOE E
Facility Type:
Attorney: Y
Restitution:
N Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration:
Comment:
PROB HRG; PROBATION/DJ REVOKED; JAIL
Sentence
Charge:
714.2(3) Description: THEFT 3RD DEGREE - 1978 (AGMS)
Sentence Date:
11/26/2003 Sentence: PLACEMENT
Appeal:
Sen.Judge: SMITH, JOE E
Facility Type:
Attorney: Y
Restitution:
N Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 120 Day(s)
Comment:
PROB HRG; PROBATION/DJ REVOKED; JAIL
Sentence
Charge:
714.2(3) Description: THEFT 3RD DEGREE - 1978 (AGMS)
Sentence Date:
11/26/2003 Sentence: SUSPEND
Appeal:
Sen.Judge: SMITH, JOE E
Facility Type:
J Attorney: Y
Restitution:
N Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 106 Day(s)
Comment:
PROB HRG; PROBATION/DJ REVOKED; TIME SERVED
Sentence
Charge:
714.2(3) Description: THEFT 3RD DEGREE - 1978 (AGMS)
Sentence Date:
11/26/2003 Sentence: COMMUNITY CORRECTIONS
Appeal:
Sen.Judge: SMITH, JOE E
Facility Type:
J Attorney: Y
Restitution:
N Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 14 Day(s)
Comment:
PROB HRG; PROBATION/DJ REVOKED; JAIL
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Charges, Dispositions, Sentences
Title: STATE VS KENT BRADLEY WILLS
Case: 05771 FECR176876 (POLK)
Citation Number:
Count 01
08/12/2003 Offense Date BURGLARY 2ND DEGREE - 1983 (FELC)
12/17/2003 Adj.Date: GUILTY
01/16/2004 Sentence 10 Year(s) SUSPENDED PRISON
01/16/2004 Sentence: PROBATION 2 Year(s)
01/16/2004 Sentence: RESIDENTIAL FACILITY FT DSM FACILITY-MAX
BENEFITS
01/16/2004 Sentence: COMMUNITY SERVICE 150 Hour(s)
12/17/2003 Sentence: JO-PROBATION EXTENDED UNTIL 1/16/09
01/25/2006 Sentence: IMPOSED PROBATION EXTENDED UNTIL 01/16/09
Count 02
08/12/2003 Offense BURGLARY 3RD DEGREE - UNOCCUPIED MOTOR VEHICLE
(AGMS)
12/17/2003 GUILTY
01/16/2004 Sentence: PRISON Duration: 2 Year(s) SUSPENDED PRISON
01/16/2004 Sentence: PROBATION Duration: 2 Year(s)
01/16/2004 Sentence: RESIDENTIAL FACILITY FT DSM FACILITY-MAX
BENEFITS
01/16/2004 Sentence: COMMUNITY SERVICE Duration: 150 Hour(s)
12/17/2003 Sentence: JO-PROBATION EXTENDED UNTIL 1/16/09
01/25/2006 Sentence: IMPOSED PROBATION EXTENDED UNTIL 01/06/09
Count 03
08/12/2003 USING JUVENILE TO COMMIT AN INDICTABLE OFFENSE(FELC)709A.6
(2)
12/17/2003 GUILTY
01/16/2004 Sentence: PRISON Duration: 10 Year(s)
01/16/2004 Sentence: SUSPENDED PRISON 10 Year(s)
01/16/2004 Sentence: PROBATION 2 Year(s)
01/16/2004 Sentence: RESIDENTIAL FACILITY FT DSM FACILITY-MAX
BENEFITS
01/16/2004 Sentence: COMMUNITY SERVICE 150 Hour(s)
12/17/2003 Sentence: JO-PROBATION EXTENDED UNTIL 1/16/09
01/25/2006 Sentence: IMPOSED PROBATION EXTENDED UNTIL 01/16/09
Charges, Dispositions, Sentences
Title: STATE VS KENT BRADLEY WILLS
Case: 05771 FECR176876 (POLK)
Citation Number:
Count 01 Charge
Charge:
713.5 Description: BURGLARY 2ND DEGREE - 1983 (FELC)
Offense Date: 08/12/2003 Arrest Date: Against Type:
DPS Number:
0668408-01
Adjudication
Charge:
713.5 Description: BURGLARY 2ND DEGREE - 1983 (FELC)
Adj.:
DNU-GUILTY Adj.Date: 12/17/2003
Adj.Judge:
HUPPERT, MICHAEL D
Comments: GUILTY
Sentence
Charge:
713.5 Description: BURGLARY 2ND DEGREE - 1983 (FELC)
Sentence Date:
01/16/2004 Sentence: PRISON
Appeal:
AFFR Sen.Judge: HUPPERT, MICHAEL D
Facility Type:
Attorney: Y
Restitution:
Y Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 10 Year(s)
Comment:
Sentence
Charge:
713.5 Description: BURGLARY 2ND DEGREE - 1983 (FELC)
Sentence Date:
01/16/2004 Sentence: SUSPENDED PRISON
Appeal:
AFFR Sen.Judge: HUPPERT, MICHAEL D
Facility Type:
Attorney: Y
Restitution:
Y Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 10 Year(s)
Comment:
Sentence
Charge:
713.5 Description: BURGLARY 2ND DEGREE - 1983 (FELC)
Sentence Date:
01/16/2004 Sentence: PROBATION
Appeal:
AFFR Sen.Judge: HUPPERT, MICHAEL D
Facility Type:
Attorney: Y
Restitution:
Y Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 2 Year(s)
Comment:
FORMAL
Sentence
Charge:
713.5 Description: BURGLARY 2ND DEGREE - 1983 (FELC)
Sentence Date:
01/16/2004 Sentence: RESIDENTIAL FACILITY
Appeal:
AFFR Sen.Judge: HUPPERT, MICHAEL D
Facility Type:
R Attorney: Y
Restitution:
Y Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration:
Comment:
FT DSM FACILITY-MAX BENEFITS
Sentence
Charge:
713.5 Description: BURGLARY 2ND DEGREE - 1983 (FELC)
Sentence Date:
01/16/2004 Sentence: COMMUNITY SERVICE
Appeal:
AFFR Sen.Judge: HUPPERT, MICHAEL D
Facility Type:
R Attorney: Y
Restitution:
Y Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 150 Hour(s)
Comment:
Sentence
Charge:
713.5 Description: BURGLARY 2ND DEGREE - 1983 (FELC)
Sentence Date:
12/17/2003 Sentence: PROBATION EXTENDED
Appeal:
Sen.Judge: HUTCHISON, ROBERT A
Facility Type:
Attorney: Y
Restitution:
N Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer:
Fine Amount:
Duration:
Comment:
JO-PROBATION EXTENDED UNTIL 1/16/09
Sentence
Charge:
713.5 Description: BURGLARY 2ND DEGREE - 1983 (FELC)
Sentence Date:
01/25/2006 Sentence: IMPOSED
Appeal:
Sen.Judge: HUTCHISON, ROBERT A
Facility Type:
Attorney: N
Restitution:
N Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer:
Fine Amount:
Duration:
Comment:
PROBATION EXTENDED UNTIL 01/16/09
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Count 02 Charge
Charge:
713.6A(2)-A Description: BURGLARY 3RD DEGREE - UNOCCUPIED MOTOR
VEHICLE (AGMS)
Offense Date: 08/12/2003 Arrest Date: Against Type:
DPS Number:
0668408-02
Adjudication
Charge:
713.6A(2)-A Description: BURGLARY 3RD DEGREE - UNOCCUPIED MOTOR
VEHICLE (AGMS)
Adj.:
DNU-GUILTY Adj.Date: 12/17/2003
Adj.Judge:
HUPPERT, MICHAEL D
Comments: GUILTY
Sentence
Charge:
713.6A(2)-A Description: BURGLARY 3RD DEGREE - UNOCCUPIED MOTOR
VEHICLE (AGMS)
Sentence Date:
01/16/2004 Sentence: PRISON
Appeal:
AFFR Sen.Judge: OVROM, ELIZA
Facility Type:
Attorney: Y
Restitution:
Y Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 2 Year(s)
Comment:
Sentence
Charge:
713.6A(2)-A Description: BURGLARY 3RD DEGREE - UNOCCUPIED MOTOR
VEHICLE (AGMS)
Sentence Date:
01/16/2004 Sentence: SUSPENDED PRISON
Appeal:
AFFR Sen.Judge: OVROM, ELIZA
Facility Type:
Attorney: Y
Restitution:
Y Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 2 Year(s)
Comment:
Sentence
Charge:
713.6A(2)-A Description: BURGLARY 3RD DEGREE - UNOCCUPIED MOTOR
VEHICLE (AGMS)
Sentence Date:
01/16/2004 Sentence: PROBATION
Appeal:
AFFR Sen.Judge: OVROM, ELIZA
Facility Type:
Attorney: Y
Restitution:
Y Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 2 Year(s)
Comment:
FORMAL
Sentence
Charge:
713.6A(2)-A Description: BURGLARY 3RD DEGREE - UNOCCUPIED MOTOR
VEHICLE (AGMS)
Sentence Date:
01/16/2004 Sentence: RESIDENTIAL FACILITY
Appeal:
AFFR Sen.Judge: OVROM, ELIZA
Facility Type:
R Attorney: Y
Restitution:
Y Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration:
Comment:
FT DSM FACILITY-MAX BENEFITS
Sentence
Charge:
713.6A(2)-A Description: BURGLARY 3RD DEGREE - UNOCCUPIED MOTOR
VEHICLE (AGMS)
Sentence Date:
01/16/2004 Sentence: COMMUNITY SERVICE
Appeal:
AFFR Sen.Judge: OVROM, ELIZA
Facility Type:
Attorney: Y
Restitution:
Y Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 150 Hour(s)
Comment:
Sentence
Charge:
713.6A(2)-A Description: BURGLARY 3RD DEGREE - UNOCCUPIED MOTOR
VEHICLE (AGMS)
Sentence Date:
12/17/2003 Sentence: PROBATION EXTENDED
Appeal:
Sen.Judge: HUTCHISON, ROBERT A
Facility Type:
Attorney: Y
Restitution:
N Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer:
Fine Amount:
Duration:
Comment:
JO-PROBATION EXTENDED UNTIL 1/16/09
Sentence
Charge:
713.6A(2)-A Description: BURGLARY 3RD DEGREE - UNOCCUPIED MOTOR
VEHICLE (AGMS)
Sentence Date:
01/25/2006 Sentence: IMPOSED
Appeal:
Sen.Judge: HUTCHISON, ROBERT A
Facility Type:
Attorney: N
Restitution:
N Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer:
Fine Amount:
Duration:
Comment:
PROBATION EXTENDED UNTIL 01/06/09
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Count 03 Charge
Charge:
709A.6(2) Description: USING A JUVENILE TO COMMIT AN INDICTABLE
OFFENSE (FELC)
Offense Date: 08/12/2003 Arrest Date: Against Type:
DPS Number:
0668408-03
Adjudication
Charge:
709A.6(2) Description: USING A JUVENILE TO COMMIT AN INDICTABLE
OFFENSE (FELC)
Adj.:
DNU-GUILTY Adj.Date: 12/17/2003
Adj.Judge:
HUPPERT, MICHAEL D
Comments: GUILTY
Sentence
Charge:
709A.6(2) Description: USING A JUVENILE TO COMMIT AN INDICTABLE
OFFENSE (FELC)
Sentence Date:
01/16/2004 Sentence: PRISON
Appeal:
AFFR Sen.Judge: OVROM, ELIZA
Facility Type:
Attorney: Y
Restitution:
Y Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 10 Year(s)
Comment:
Sentence
Charge:
709A.6(2) Description: USING A JUVENILE TO COMMIT AN INDICTABLE
OFFENSE (FELC)
Sentence Date:
01/16/2004 Sentence: SUSPENDED PRISON
Appeal:
AFFR Sen.Judge: OVROM, ELIZA
Facility Type:
Attorney: Y
Restitution:
Y Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 10 Year(s)
Comment:
Sentence
Charge:
709A.6(2) Description: USING A JUVENILE TO COMMIT AN INDICTABLE
OFFENSE (FELC)
Sentence Date:
01/16/2004 Sentence: PROBATION
Appeal:
AFFR Sen.Judge: OVROM, ELIZA
Facility Type:
Attorney: Y
Restitution:
Y Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 2 Year(s)
Comment:
FORMAL
Sentence
Charge:
709A.6(2) Description: USING A JUVENILE TO COMMIT AN INDICTABLE
OFFENSE (FELC)
Sentence Date:
01/16/2004 Sentence: RESIDENTIAL FACILITY
Appeal:
AFFR Sen.Judge: OVROM, ELIZA
Facility Type:
R Attorney: Y
Restitution:
Y Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration:
Comment:
FT DSM FACILITY-MAX BENEFITS
Sentence
Charge:
709A.6(2) Description: USING A JUVENILE TO COMMIT AN INDICTABLE
OFFENSE (FELC)
Sentence Date:
01/16/2004 Sentence: COMMUNITY SERVICE
Appeal:
AFFR Sen.Judge: OVROM, ELIZA
Facility Type:
Attorney: Y
Restitution:
Y Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 150 Hour(s)
Comment:
Sentence
Charge:
709A.6(2) Description: USING A JUVENILE TO COMMIT AN INDICTABLE
OFFENSE (FELC)
Sentence Date:
12/17/2003 Sentence: PROBATION EXTENDED
Appeal:
Sen.Judge: HUTCHISON, ROBERT A
Facility Type:
Attorney: Y
Restitution:
N Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer:
Fine Amount:
Duration:
Comment:
JO-PROBATION EXTENDED UNTIL 1/16/09
Sentence
Charge:
709A.6(2) Description: USING A JUVENILE TO COMMIT AN INDICTABLE
OFFENSE (FELC)
Sentence Date:
01/25/2006 Sentence: IMPOSED
Appeal:
Sen.Judge: HUTCHISON, ROBERT A
Facility Type:
Attorney: N
Restitution:
N Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer:
Fine Amount:
Duration:
Comment:
PROBATION EXTENDED UNTIL 01/16/09
-------------------------------------
Filings
Title: STATE VS KENT BRADLEY WILLS
Case: 05771 FECR176876 (POLK)
ORDER OF DISCHARGE OVROM ELIZA 12/16/2008 12/16/2008 12/16/2008
Comments: FROM PROBATION
OTHER EVENT DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS 12/16/2008 12/16/2008
12/16/2008
Comments: FIELD DISCHARGE REPORT
OTHER ORDER OVROM ELIZA 12/16/2008 12/16/2008 12/16/2008
Comments: REVOCATION HEARING SET FOR 1/07/2009 IS CANCELLED
DEFENDANT HAS NOT PAID IN FULL FINANCIAL
OBLIGATIONS
ORDER FOR PROBATION REVOCATION HEARING MOISAN CYNTHIA M 12/05/2008
12/05/2008 12/05/2008
Comments: ON 1/7/09 AT 9:30AM RM204
PROBATION REVOCATION 12/05/2008 12/05/2008 12/05/2008
Comments: REPORT OF VIOLATIONS FILED BY JAN HORNOCKER
FORMAL PROBATION HUTCHISON ROBERT A 01/25/2006 01/26/2006
01/26/2006
Comments: EXTENDED TO 01/16/09 OR UNTIL CONDITIONS ARE MET
COURT ORDERED PAYMENT PLAN 01/13/2006 01/13/2006 01/13/2006
OTHER ORDER HUTCHISON ROBERT A 01/11/2006 01/13/2006 01/13/2006
Comments: DEFT'S PROBATION EXTENDED UNTIL 1/16/09; DEFT TO
COMPLETE
CONDITIONS LISTED
OTHER EVENT 09/15/2005 09/15/2005 09/15/2005
Comments: THE SUPREME COURT RETURNED FILE, PSI, 4 TRANSCRIPTS,
AND 1 ENVELOPE OF EXHIBITS
OTHER EVENT APPELLATE DEFENDER'S OFFICE 06/09/2005 06/13/2005
06/13/2005
Comments: STATEMENT OF HOURS
15.9 HOURS = $795.00
ATTORNEY - GRETA TRUMAN
OTHER EVENT CLERK OF SUPREME COURT 06/02/2005 09/15/2005
09/15/2005
Comments: BILL OF COSTS
$27.50 TAXED AGAINST THE APPELLANT AND PAYABLE
TO
THE ATTORNEY GENERAL
#04-0202
OTHER ORDER SUPREME COURT OF IOWA 06/02/2005 09/15/2005 09/15/2005
Comments: RE DEFT'S APPEAL CLAIMING INEFFECTIVE COUNSEL:
JUDGEMENT AFFIRMED
#04-0202
PROCEDENDO CLERK OF SUPREME COURT 06/02/2005 09/15/2005 09/15/2005
Comments: AFFIRMED
PROCEED W/DILIGENCE AS IF THERE HAD BEEN NO
APPEAL
#04-0202
COMMUNITY SERVICE 05/25/2004 05/27/2004 05/27/2004
Comments: 135 HRS COMPLETED 5/24/04
INDIGENT DEFENSE CLAIM FORM TAYLOR KAREN 05/11/2004 05/13/2004
05/13/2004
Comments: $1150
ELECTRONIC FILING
OTHER EVENT 04/26/2004 04/28/2004 04/28/2004
Comments: SUPREME COURT REC'D 1 FILE, 1 PSI ENVELOPE,
1 EXHIBIT(1 ENVELOPE DATED 1/21/04)
REC'D 4/20/04
OTHER ORDER NICKERSON DON 04/23/2004 04/27/2004 04/27/2004
Comments: THE BALANCE OF ATTNY FEE AND CC SHALL BE
CONVERTED TO 135 HRS COMM SERVICE
TO BE COMPLETED FROM FT DSM FACILITY
OR TRANSFER TO INTERSTATE COMPACT
COMMUNITY SERVICE 04/22/2004 04/23/2004 04/23/2004
Comments: 150 HRS COMPLETED
APRIL 8, 2004
OTHER EVENT 04/20/2004 04/20/2004 04/20/2004
Comments: RECD CHANGE OF ADDRESS FOR DEFT
OTHER EVENT 04/20/2004 04/20/2004 04/20/2004
Comments: FILE AND PSI SENT TO THE SUPREME COURT
ONE ENVELOPE OF EXHIBITS FILED 1/21/04
SENT TO THE SUPREME COURT
OTHER EVENT 04/19/2004 04/19/2004 04/19/2004
Comments: SUP CRT RECEIVED 2 TRANSCRIPTS OF PROCEEDINGS
FILED 4/1/04 (VOL I & II)
SUP CRT 04-202
OTHER EVENT 04/06/2004 05/18/2004 05/18/2004
Comments: 2 TRANSCRIPTS FILED 4/1/04 SENT TO THE
SUPREME COURT
DNU - COURT REPORTER TRANSCRIPT MAXEY REBECCA 04/01/2004 04/05/2004
04/05/2004
Comments: OF PROCEEDINGS ON 12/16/03
VOLUME II
DNU - COURT REPORTER TRANSCRIPT MAXEY REBECCA 04/01/2004 04/05/2004
04/05/2004
Comments: OF PROCEEDINGS ON 12/15/03
VOLUME I
OTHER EVENT 03/31/2004 03/31/2004 03/31/2004
Comments: EXHIBITS RETURNED
OTHER EVENT 03/31/2004 03/31/2004 03/31/2004
Comments: ENVELOPE OF EXHIBITS CHECKED OUT TO COURT
REPORTER R.M.
OTHER ORDER OVROM ELIZA 03/29/2004 03/31/2004 03/31/2004
Comments: MOTION IS GRANTED REGARDING REVIEW OF
PAYMENT OF COURT APPOINTED ATTY FEES AND
THE STATE PUBLIC DEFENDER IS ORDERED TO MAKE
PAYMENT AS REQUESTED.
OTHER ORDER OVROM ELIZA 03/29/2004 03/30/2004 03/31/2004
ENTERED IN ERROR
Comments: STATE PUBLIC DEFENDER SHALL MAKE PAYMENT AS
REQUESTED.
MOTION 03/18/2004 03/19/2004 03/19/2004
Comments: TO ENLARGE TIME FOR DOCKETING FILED BY
ASSISTANT APPELLATE DEFENDER
ORDER SETTING HEARING OVROM ELIZA 03/15/2004 03/16/2004 03/16/2004
Comments: ON MOTION TO REVIEW ACTION RE:PAYMENT OF
COURT APPOINTED ATTY.
3/29/04 8:15AM RM209A
MOTION 03/15/2004 03/16/2004 03/16/2004
Comments: FOR REVIEW OF ACTION REGARDING PAYMENT
OF COURT APPOINTED ATTORNEY FEES
FILED BY ATDF
OTHER EVENT 03/11/2004 03/11/2004 03/11/2004
Comments: SUPREME COURT RECVD 2 TRANSCRIPTS OF SENTENCING
ON 1/16/04 AND STATUS CONF ON 12/12/03 FILED
3/1/04
04-202
OTHER EVENT 03/09/2004 03/09/2004 03/09/2004
Comments: 2 TRANSCRIPTS FILED 3/1/04 SENT TO THE
SUPREME COURT
INDIGENT DEFENSE CLAIM FORM TAYLOR KAREN 03/09/2004 03/18/2004
03/18/2004
Comments: $1350.00 ELECTRONIC FILING
DNU - COURT REPORTER TRANSCRIPT HILGENBERG VIVIAN ROSE 03/01/2004
03/03/2004 03/03/2004
Comments: OF STATUS CONFERENCE ON 12/12/2003
DNU - COURT REPORTER TRANSCRIPT HILGENBERG VIVIAN ROSE 03/01/2004
03/03/2004 03/03/2004
Comments: OF SENTENCING ON 01/16/2004
OTHER EVENT APPELLATE DEFENDER'S OFFICE 02/26/2004 02/27/2004
02/27/2004
Comments: COMBINED CERTIFICATE
OTHER EVENT 02/24/2004 02/24/2004 02/24/2004
Comments: DOCKET ENTRIES RECEIVED BY SUPREME COURT
2-10-04; SUPREME COURT NUMBER 04-202
ORDER APPOINTING OVROM ELIZA 02/18/2004 02/19/2004 02/19/2004
Comments: ORDER GRANTING K TAYLOR TO W/D
APPELLATE COUNSEL IS APPT
OTHER APPLICATION 02/18/2004 02/19/2004 02/19/2004
Comments: TO WITHDRAW
OTHER EVENT 02/10/2004 02/10/2004 02/10/2004
Comments: DOCKET ENTRIES AND CERTIFIED COPY OF NOTICE
OF APPEAL SENT TO THE SUPREME COURT
OTHER EVENT TAYLOR KAREN A 02/09/2004 02/10/2004 02/10/2004
Comments: COURT APPOINTED BILLING
47 HOURS = $2500
OTHER EVENT TAYLOR KAREN 02/09/2004 02/10/2004 02/10/2004
ENTERED IN ERROR
Comments: COURT
NOTICE OF APPEAL TAYLOR KAREN A 02/06/2004 02/09/2004 02/09/2004
Comments: FILED BY ATDF
OTHER EVENT 01/23/2004 01/27/2004 01/27/2004
Comments: ADDENDUM TO PSI REPORT
EXHIBIT MAXEY REBECCA 01/21/2004 01/21/2004 01/21/2004
Comments: STATE'S EXHIBITS
1-$13.21; 2-$24.25 (IN VAULT); 3-LIGHT;
4&5-WRITTEN STATEMENT; 6,7,8-DIAGRAM
1 ENVELOPE & VAULT
OTHER EVENT 01/20/2004 01/26/2004 01/26/2004
Comments: VORP
VICTIM DOES NOT WANT TO VORP
NO RESTITUTION ISSUES AT THIS TIME
VICTIM DENNIS AND JAMIE WIEBEN
COURT ORDERED PAYMENT PLAN 01/20/2004 01/20/2004 01/20/2004
COURT ORDERED PAYMENT PLAN 01/16/2004 01/16/2004 01/16/2004
COURT REPORTER CERTIFICATE HILGENBERG VIVIAN ROSE 01/16/2004
01/20/2004 01/20/2004
Comments: $15.00
PRE SENTENCE INVESTIGATION REPORT PSI 01/16/2004 01/16/2004
01/16/2004
ORDER OF DISPOSITION OVROM ELIZA 01/16/2004 01/16/2004 01/16/2004
Comments: FOUND GUILTY BY JURY/PRISON-SUSPENDED; FORMAL
PROBATION; FT DSM FACILITY-MAX BENEFITS;
COMMUNITY SERVED; RESTITUTION-SUPP ORDER TO
FOLLOW; VORP; APPEAL BOND $13000 C/S
ORDER OF DISPOSITION OVROM ELIZA 01/16/2004 01/16/2004
01/16/2004
ENTERED IN ERROR
Comments: PLED GUILTY/PRISON-SUSPENDED; FORMAL
PROBATION; FT DSM FACILITY-MAX BENEFITS;
COMMUNITY SERVED; RESTITUTION-SUPP ORDER TO
FOLLOW; VORP; APPEAL BOND $13000 C/S
MITTIMUS TO STATE INSTITUTION WILLS KENT BRADLEY 01/16/2004
01/16/2004 01/16/2004
Comments: **FORT DES MOINES**
RETURN OF SERVICE - OTHER POLK COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE 12/23/2003
12/26/2003 12/26/2003
Comments: TRANSPORT COSTS $96.24
OTHER EVENT 12/22/2003 12/23/2003 12/23/2003
Comments: DEFT'S COPY OF ORDER TO EXCEED STATE FEE
LIMITATION RETURNED UNDELIVERABLE
COURT REPORTER CERTIFICATE MAXEY REBECCA 12/17/2003 12/18/2003
12/18/2003
CRIMINAL VERDICT HUPPERT MICHAEL D 12/17/2003 12/18/2003 12/18/2003
Comments: OF GUILTY TO BURGLARY 2ND, 3RD, AND USING A
JUVENILE TO COMMIT AN INDICTABLE OFFENSE; DCS
WILL SUBMIT A PSI BY 1 WK PRIOR TO SENTENCING
DATE; PRESENTENCE CONF & SENTENCING 1-16-04
@ 8:30 AM IN RM 209A; BOND CONT
AMENDED TRIAL INFORMATION HUPPERT MICHAEL D 12/17/2003 12/18/2003
12/18/2003
Comments: FILED BY JOHN JUDISCH
JURY SELECTION HUPPERT MICHAEL D 12/17/2003 12/18/2003 12/18/2003
INSTRUCTIONS 12/17/2003 12/18/2003 12/18/2003
Comments: TO THE JURY AND STATEMENT OF THE CASE
OTHER ORDER HUPPERT MICHAEL D 12/16/2003 12/17/2003 12/17/2003
Comments: JUV SEAN BILYEU SHALL BE TRANSFERRED TO THE
CUSTODY OF POLK CO SHERIFF FOR THE DURATION
OF HIS REQUIRED TESTIMONY/PRESENCE IN THIS
MATTER. SEAN BILYEU SHALL REMAIN IN THE
CUSTODY OF POLK CO SHERIFF OR ANY OTHER
LOCATION (MEYER HALL) DEEMED APPROPRIATE BY
THE SHERIFF UNTIL THE POLK CO SHERIFF CAN
EXECUTE THE TIMELY TRANSPORT OF SEAN BILYEU
FROM THE CUSTODY OF THE SHERIFF TO THE ELDORA
TRAINING CENTER.
OTHER ORDER HUPPERT MICHAEL D 12/16/2003 12/16/2003 12/16/2003
Comments: DEFT TO BE RETURNED FROM ELDORA-COTTAGE 5
BY JIM TROTTER, INVESTIGATOR/CTY ATTY'S
OFFICE; DEFT CAN BE PRESENT AT HIS TESTIMONY
ON 12-16-03
OTHER ORDER HUPPERT MICHAEL D 12/15/2003 12/16/2003 12/16/2003
Comments: ATDF IS PERMITTED TO EXCEED GUIDELINE FOR
CT APPT ATTY IN THIS MATTER AND THAT THIS
ORDER SHALL INCLUED ALL FEES INCURRED AS OF
THE DATE OF THIS ORDER.
APPLICATION TO EXCEED FEES 12/15/2003 12/16/2003 12/16/2003
COURT REPORTER CERTIFICATE HILGENBERG VIVIAN ROSE 12/12/2003
12/17/2003 12/17/2003
MOTION IN LIMINE TAYLOR KAREN 12/12/2003 12/15/2003 12/15/2003
ORDER SETTING HEARING OVROM ELIZA 12/05/2003 12/08/2003 12/08/2003
Comments: STATUS CONF: 12/12/03 @ 10:00 AM RM 204
RETURN OF SERVICE ON SUBPEONA 11/20/2003 12/09/2003 12/09/2003
Comments: 4=$0
RETURN OF SERVICE ON SUBPEONA 11/18/2003 11/25/2003 11/25/2003
Comments: 3=$0
ORDER SETTING HEARING OVROM ELIZA 11/14/2003 11/14/2003 11/14/2003
Comments: STATUS CONFERENCE
11/13/03 9AM RM 204
ALL PARTIES MUST BE PRESENT
ORDER SETTING TRIAL OVROM ELIZA 11/13/2003 11/14/2003 11/14/2003
Comments: 12/15/03 @ 9:00 AM RM 204
WAIVER OF SPEEDY TRIAL TAYLOR KAREN 11/13/2003 11/14/2003
11/14/2003
Comments: LIMITED
RETURN OF SERVICE ON SUBPEONA 11/10/2003 11/12/2003 11/12/2003
Comments: 1 = $0
OTHER EVENT 11/10/2003 11/10/2003 11/10/2003
Comments: DEPOSITION OF DAVID DUVALL
OTHER EVENT 11/10/2003 11/10/2003 11/10/2003
Comments: DEPOSITION OF BETH ANN SKOGEN
OTHER EVENT 11/10/2003 11/10/2003 11/10/2003
Comments: DEPOSITION OF NEIL LEMKE
OTHER EVENT 11/10/2003 11/10/2003 11/10/2003
Comments: DEPOSITION OF DENNIS WIEBEN
OTHER EVENT 11/10/2003 11/10/2003 11/10/2003
Comments: DEPOSITION OF NATALIE BALUKOFF
OTHER EVENT 11/10/2003 11/10/2003 11/10/2003
Comments: DEPOSITION OF SEAN BILYEU
RETURN OF SERVICE ON SUBPEONA 10/31/2003 11/04/2003 11/04/2003
Comments: 6=$0
AMENDED TRIAL INFORMATION OVROM ELIZA 10/31/2003 11/03/2003
11/03/2003
Comments: FILED BY JOHN JUDISCH
NOTICE WARD JAMES P 10/31/2003 11/03/2003 11/03/2003
Comments: OF ADDITIONAL WITNESSES
DNU - SUBPOENA PER DUCES TECUM 10/31/2003 11/03/2003 11/03/2003
Comments: 1 - $13.70
OTHER ORDER OVROM ELIZA 10/21/2003 10/21/2003 10/21/2003
Comments: FOR DEPOSITIONS AND SERVICE
AT STATE EXPENSE
OTHER APPLICATION 10/21/2003 10/21/2003 10/21/2003
Comments: FOR DEPOSITIONS AND SERVICE
AT STATE EXPENSE
NOTICE TAYLOR KAREN 10/20/2003 10/21/2003 10/21/2003
Comments: OF DEPOSITIONS
NOTICE TAYLOR KAREN 10/20/2003 10/21/2003 10/21/2003
Comments: OF DEPOSITIONS
NOTICE TAYLOR KAREN 10/20/2003 10/21/2003 10/21/2003
Comments: OF DEPOSITIONS
NOTICE TAYLOR KAREN 10/20/2003 10/21/2003 10/21/2003
Comments: OF DEPOSITION
NOTICE TAYLOR KAREN 10/20/2003 10/21/2003 10/21/2003
Comments: OF DEPOSITIONS
NOTICE TAYLOR KAREN 10/20/2003 10/21/2003 10/21/2003
Comments: OF DEPOSITIONS
OTHER ORDER OVROM ELIZA 10/07/2003 10/08/2003 10/08/2003
Comments: ORDER ENTERED 9/18/03 SETTING TRIAL FOR
11/19/03 WAS IS ERROR. TRIAL IS RESET FOR
11/12/03 @9:00 AM RM 204
OTHER EVENT 09/24/2003 09/26/2003 09/26/2003
Comments: DEFT'S COPY OF APP TO W/D
RETURNED UNDELIVERABLE
PRE-TRIAL CONFERENCE OVROM ELIZA 09/18/2003 09/19/2003 09/19/2003
Comments: WAS HELD; TRIAL ON 11-19-03
ATDF TAYLOR
OTHER EVENT AMUNDSON LAURA K 08/26/2003 09/02/2003 09/02/2003
Comments: STATEMENT OF HOURS
.4-$18.00
APPEARANCE TAYLOR KAREN 08/25/2003 08/26/2003 08/26/2003
Comments: FILED BY KAREN TAYLOR
WITHDRAWAL OF COUNSEL OVROM ELIZA 08/21/2003 08/22/2003 08/22/2003
Comments: OF ADULT PUBLIC DEF IS GRANTED
KAREN TAYLOR IS APPOINTED
ORDER OF ARRAIGNMENT MCGHEE ODELL 08/21/2003 08/21/2003 08/21/2003
Comments: Pretrial Conference 09/18/2003 01:30 PM DCC1
Trial 10/22/2003 09:00 AM DCC9
Bond is continued
TRIAL INFORMATION OVROM ELIZA 08/20/2003 08/20/2003 08/20/2003
Comments: FILED BY JAMES WARD
ORDER FOR ARRAIGNMENT MCGHEE ODELL 08/14/2003 08/14/2003
08/14/2003
Comments: IN CUSTODY ON 8/21/03 AT 10:30AM JAILCOURT
OUT OF CUSTODY AT 8AM ROOM 204
PRELIM HAS NOT BEEN WAIVED SET FOR 8/22/03
DNU - HEARING FOR BOND REDUCTION MCGHEE ODELL 08/14/2003 08/14/2003
08/14/2003
Comments: BOND $13000 C/S
APP FOR COUNSEL/FINANCIAL STATMENT MCGHEE ODELL 08/13/2003
08/13/2003 08/13/2003
Comments: APPROVED
PD IS APPOINTED
CRIMINAL COMPLAINT 08/13/2003 08/13/2003 08/13/2003
Comments: BURGLARY 2ND
ANPD 03-75354
HEARING FOR INITIAL APPEARANCE MCGHEE ODELL 08/13/2003 08/13/2003
08/13/2003
Comments: Preliminary Hearing 08/22/2003 08:00 AM DA03
Bond Review 08/14/2003 08:30 AM DA04
Bond set for 713.5 $13000 C/S
Total Bond $13000 C/S
Indexed PUBLIC DEFENDER-POLK COUNTYPIN-
PK1000375
Title: STATE VS KENT BRADLEY WILLS
Case: 05771 FECR176876 (POLK)
Citation Number:
Orig Paid Due Summary
3501.70 3501.70 0.00 COSTS
0.00 0.00 0.00 FINE
125.00 125.00 0.00 SURCHARGE
0.00 0.00 0.00 RESTITUTION
27.50 27.50 0.00 OTHER
-------------------------------------
$3654.20 $3654.20 $0.00
WILLS, KENT B [ Collected Sept 13, 2009]
Age: 40
Rogers, AR
Ankeny, IA
Marshalltown, IA
Bartlett, IL
Villa Park, IL
And from another source: Hanover Park, IL
WILLS, FREDERICK ALFRED (Kent's Dad 65 )
WILLS, MICHAEL A (Kent's son ??)
WILLS, JANET RAE (Kent's Mom 62 )
HARTWIG,TIFFANY JEANNE (Wills) (Kent's sister )
From another source: Kelly M Wills Kent's wife ?? )
( Samantha T Wills, Kathleen M Wills, James Wills ? )
-----------------------------------
Consider the following:
If "our" Kent is NOT Kent Bradley Wills then
his ""Fake ID"" has worked well, so what's
the problem?
Consider Kent's OWN comments about:
A. regarding his sister (by name)
B. property in CORPORATION name (Wills Family Trust)
C. footage of "Wills" plaque avoiding first name
D. apt building at 202 NW College Ave Ankeny IA
E. past residence in various cities in IA
F. connection to Arkansas
G. that he set up/was assigned this ""Fake ID""
Does an actual Garage Burglary Felon have a
RIGHT to con people into thinking he ISN'T one?
Does a TWO time thieving Felon actually have
a right to conceal his record and a right
against having his record exposed?
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.bob-larson/msg/b9653f6758b592b8
Newsgroups: alt.fan.bob-larson, alt.law-enforcement, alt.usenet.kooks
From: Kent Wills <compu...@gmail.com>
Local: Wed, Oct 15 2008 5:59 pm
> and running to Arkansas ain't gonna help you this time, Kent --
KBW > I've never run to Arkansas.
KBW > We have a house near Fort Smith, AR.
KBW > I'm confident your stalking has found
KBW > just where it is. You were able to
KBW > find my phone number from when I
KBW > lived in Chicago (you posted part
KBW > of it) back in 1988, so finding a
KBW > current address should have been
KBW > real easy for you.
2006 Assets Learning Conference Session III.8
Understanding the New Bankruptcy and Credit Laws:
Implications for the Field
Facilitated for the Assets Alliance by:
Janet Wills
Wills Resources
8250 Wills Court
Rogers, AR 72756
Phone & Fax Number: (479) 925-4001
E-mail: janetw...@yahoo.com
Ramona McKinney
Asset Builders Program Director
Southern Good Faith Fund
2304 West 29th Avenue
Pine Bluff, Arkansas 71603
Phone Number: (870) 535-6233, ext. 15
E-mail: rmck...@southerngff.org
History of Bankruptcy
Roots of word traced to medieval Italy – “banco rotto” which means
broken bench
Early U. S. bankruptcy law was modification of British law
1800’s – First federal bankruptcy law signed by President John Adams
in 1800 2 more laws passed and repealed until the Bankruptcy Act of
1898
1900’s and Beyond
A bankruptcy environment that had as its focus helping debtors seek a
new start remained in place for most of 20th century.
By beginning of 21st century creditors successfully argued that this
current law and environment were too easy on debtors
BAPCPA
The Bankruptcy Abuse Prevention and Consumer Protection Act of 2005
was passed and went into effect October 19, 2005
Interruption in our presentation
There is a blank page in the back of your packet. As we are talking
today about bankruptcy and credit, please use it to jot down some of
your thoughts on how this new bankruptcy environment is going to
impact you and the people you serve.
Specifically write yourself a note or two about at least one
bankruptcy proceeding you know about personally. Then in 20 words or
less state what you think the contributing cause was for that person’s
financial problems.
We will want to hear your thoughts later.
Types of Bankruptcy
Chapter 7
Chapter 11
Chapter 12
Chapter 13
Chapter 7
For personal bankruptcy
Often referred to is liquidation bankruptcy
Debtors turn over nonessential assets to bankruptcy trustee, who then
sells it off and distributes proceeds to creditors eliminating debt
completely
This type of bankruptcy was most affected by the BAOCPA
Chapter 11
For corporations that want to reorganize their finances and remain in
business
Features a debt repayment plan
Chapter 12
For family farmers and fishermen
Features payment plan and debt restructuring
Chapter 13
For individuals
Features debt repayment plan
More individuals who previously would have filed under Chapter 7 will
be forced into Chapter 13
Changes with the BAPCPA
Means test
Required Credit Counseling
Required Debtor Education
Means Test
To qualify for Chapter 7 “liquidation bankruptcy” individual must pass
means test
Income must be below state’s median income
Or if it is above, debtor is subject to means test
Monthly income less allowed expenses
If after all these subtractions the total monthly disposable income is
less than $100 the debtor has passed the Means Test
Means Test cont.
If disposable income is more than $166.67 Means test is flunked and
debtor is not eligible for Chapter 7, must go to Chapter 13
If disposable income is between $100 and $166.67 then calculations are
figured to see if what is left over is enough to pay off more than 25%
of unsecured debt over 5 years.
In other words – the means test is not easy.
Required Credit Counseling
Debtors filing for Chapter 7 must complete required credit counseling
& debtors must pay for it.* Credit Counseling must be provided by a
qualifying 501(c)3 organization that has been approved by Bankruptcy
Trustees.
*fee can be waived
Debtor Education
2 hours required
Required topics
Budget Development
Setting short-term & long-term financial goals as well as developing
skills to assist in achieving these goals
Calculating gross monthly income & net monthly income
Identifying & classifying monthly expenses as fixed, variable, or
periodic
Debtor Education
Required topics cont
Money Management
Keeping adequate financial records
Developing decision-making skills required to distinguish between
wants and needs and to comparison shop for goods & services
Maintaining appropriate levels of insurance coverage, taking into
account the types and costs of insurance
Saving for emergences, for periodic payments, and for financial goals
Debtor education
required topics cont.
Wise Use of Credit
Types sources, and costs of credit & loans
Identifying debt warning signs
Appropriate use of credit & alternatives to credit use
Checking a credit rating
Debtor Education
required topics cont.
Consumer information
Public and non-profit resources for consumer assistance
Applicable consumer protection laws and regulations, such as those
governing correction of a credit record and protection against
consumer fraud
Approved credit counseling and debtor education can be provided
In person
Internet
Telephone
(can be approved for a combination of internet/telephone. That is the
approval we have)
www.usdoj.gov/ust/
The U. S. Trustees home page
A Huge wealth of information
www.usdoj.gov/ust/eo/bapcpa/ccde/cc_approved.htm#AL
Web site (part of the trustee web site) for list of approved credit
counselors and debtor education providers
Click on state
Click on your judicial district
Bankruptcy and the Future
At first it’s a relief – you file for bankruptcy, the creditors stop
calling and harassing you, and the juggling act ends.
Many people who file bankruptcy ask, “Now what can I expect?”
Let’s begin looking at “what’s next” by completing the quiz.
Bankruptcy will expire from your credit report after 10 years.
Some credit reporting agencies may remove Chapter 13 after 7 years.
Bankruptcy is for life – if you apply for insurance, credit, or a job
you can be asked if you have ever filed for bankruptcy. There is no
time limit even if it is very old.
Bankruptcy will stay with me forever: True.
2. The accounts included in my bankruptcy will be removed from my
credit report upon discharge: False.
Accounts included in bankruptcy expire independently from bankruptcy.
These accounts will be marked “Included in BK” on the credit report.
They will remain up to 7 years after filing.
After discharge the balance must be reported as “0.”
I will never get credit again: False.
You can expect receive many offers of credit.
Many of these may be from unscrupulous creditors with activation fees
and/or membership fees.
There are “debtor-friendly” agencies that specialize in credit repair
loans.
Do not be too eager to get credit again – know the terms and
conditions of the credit.
I will not be able to by a home for 10 years: False.
There are some lenders who prefer to deal with consumers with good
credit and will not do business for the 10 years it remains.
It is not a quick fix, it may take those in Chapter 13 three to five
years to complete their payment plan.
With strides to rebuild credit and no new negative “marks,” you may be
able to receive a conventional mortgage within one to two years.
Even after bankruptcy I may still have some of my existing debt:
True.
Even with Chapter 7 not all debt will be discharged, it depends on the
type of debts that are owed.
Certain debts that cannot be discharged include: most taxes, child
support, most student loans, court fines and criminal restitution, and
personal injury.
Debts incurred after filing for bankruptcy will not be included.
I will lose all my property if I file for bankruptcy: False.
With Chapter 13, which is like a payment plan, you may be allowed to
keep property.
Chapter 7 involves the sale of all assets that are not exempt.
Exemptions differ from state to state but typically allow: equity in
home, insurance, retirement plans, personal property, car, public
benefits, and/or tools used on job.
Filing for bankruptcy will lower my credit score: True.
The drop in the credit score will depend on the type of debt and
payment history prior to filing.
Credit score is calculated using a complicated algorithm that takes
into account hundreds of factors and values.
It is very difficult to predict how the credit score will be affected
but bankruptcy is one of the most negative factors included in the
report.
I cannot file for bankruptcy for 8 years after discharge: True.
This is only true for Chapter 7.
Chapter 13 waiting period is shorter and can be as little as two
years.
After bankruptcy all my debts will be free and clear and I will have
peace of mind: False.
As stated in #5 all debts will not be discharged.
Bankruptcy is listed in the top five life-altering negative events
that one can go through.
Bankruptcy is life-altering and leaves deep wounds both to the psyche
and the credit report.
After bankruptcy I will need to take steps to protect myself from
another bankruptcy: True.
Even if the bankruptcy was through no fault of your own it will be a
good time to examine what led to bankruptcy to begin to prepare for
unforeseen events.
Take a critical look at spending and saving habits.
Implement strategies to control spending, develop a budget, and start
a savings plan.
Let’s Talk About It
Implications to the IDA field
The “typical” person seeking bankruptcy
Contributing causes
Greegor
The same old fallacies you always use are getting boring.
Your use of false dichotomy and the list of your stock
deceptions ( A-E ) are getting a bit stale.
Your use of these failed tactics illustrate
that you are a con artist trying heavy
handed manipulations.
They're so obvious that I wonder if you don't
INTEND to be committing some strange kind
of self deprication or intellectual form of suicide.
Greegor
>
> http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&source=hp&q=850+buffalo+Ave+calumet...
>
> Front Right pine tree stop sign
>
>
> Right Side with bird feeder
>
>
> Right Rear door
>
> http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&source=hp&q=850+buffalo+Ave+calumet...
>
> Parcel details
>
> http://198.173.15.21/ccao/ParcelDetails.asp?PIN=30182330330000
>
> Map
>
> http://198.173.15.21/ccao/MapIndex.asp?action=parcel&PIN=30182330330000
>
> Photo
>
> http://198.173.15.21/AssessorPics/GeoSpan/30182330330000.jpg
>
>
> http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&q=850+Buffalo+Avenue,+Calumet+City,...
>
> Dave's Adoptive Mother Janet M Moore 68 Calumet City, IL
>
>
> http://www.public-records-now.com/Search/SearchResults.aspx?vw=people...
>
> http://www.whitepages.com/search/ReverseAddress?street=850+buffalo+av...
>
> Dave's Birth Mother Judith A ULANOWSKI 71 Johnstown, PA
>
>
> http://www.whitepages.com/search/ReverseAddress?street=116+donald+lan...
Hi Davey! I didn't forget you!
womanGoddess
> Can't you come up with some different fallacies to use?
You can't.
>
> The same old fallacies you always use are getting boring.
Like yours Greg?
>
> Your use of false dichotomy and the list of your stock
> deceptions ( A-E ) are getting a bit stale.
Speaking of stale....
>
> Your use of these failed tactics illustrate
> that you are a con artist trying heavy
> handed manipulations.
While your manipulations are shoddy.
>
> They're so obvious that I wonder if you don't
> INTEND to be committing some strange kind
> of self deprication or intellectual form of suicide.
As your intellect ( such as it is) is in the morgue, seems to me you
are admitting something here.
The irony of Greg's post is not hard to miss.
He's projecting so much here that Nothing further needs to be said.
Moe
Eternal FOREVER KNIGHT fan
" A vampire cop? REALLY?"
"http://home.earthlink.net/~19ranger57/blies.htm
Know your scum--- http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com
womanGoddess
> On Jan 18, 2:21 pm, Greegor <greego...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Nice try, Dave!
>
> > But the people who matter know exactly who and what you are.
(( long post of stalking crap snipped))
> Hi Davey! I didn't forget you!
Get a job Greg. Ken is no longer on usenet to give you a pretense of
intelligence.
C&Ping the same old crap makes you boring as hell Greg. Sadly its all
you got.
dmoore
Pangborn's service provider because he has been harassing not only me,
but my wife and my mother. He's doing this for no other reason than
my having the same name as some guy he has been arguing with. He also
tried to tell me that this other David is at fault for Ken's
harassment.
A couple days after I contacted Roadrunner, I received mail from them
advising that they had acted upon my complaint, but they were not able
to div ulge specifics about the action. The harassment from the
Roadrunner address did cease at that time, but continues through
"greegor" which I am assuming is another account owned by this man.
I'm not interested in being part of any feud, posting testimonials on
any website or anything of the sort. I just want the harassment of my
family to stop. I am not the Dav id Moore with whom you people are
arguing, and it shouldnt take much common sense to figure that out.
On Jan 19, 3:19 am, Kent Wills <compu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 12:21:02 -0800 (PST), Greegor
>
> <greego...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >Nice try, Dave!
>
> >But the people who matter know exactly who and what you are.
>
> We do. And we know NONE of what you dishonestly claim about
> David is true.
>
> A select number of items that really are about Gregory Scott "Piggly
> Wiggly" Hanson (either directly or through the same standards he
> DEMANDS be held to others):
>
> Title: ST VS GREGORY HANSON
> (DOB 05/22/1959)
> CRIMINAL COMPLAINT 04/10/1996
> Comments: CT 1 OWI 1ST
> OTHER CITATION 04/10/1996
> Comments: CT 2 SPEED
> Disposition Status
> GUILTY PLEA/DEFAULT
>
> "That's the chick, but not the pic, zipperhead!"
> Greg "Piggly Wiggly" Hanson proving his bigotry towards Asians, by
> attacking my first wife (deceased).http://www.rsdb.org/search?q=zipperhead
>
> Me: "I suspect your stalking is due to the use and abuse of illegal
> drugs, Greg. Is the reason for your stalking the members of
> alt.friends due to the use and abuse of illegal drugs?
>
> Gregory Scott "Piggly Wiggly" Hanson, wife beater and child abuser:
> "Of course."
>
> "My family's case is for Neglect, but we are treated
> in virtually every regard as child abusers, marked on
> the Child Abuse registry, for example."
> -- Gregory Scott "Piggly Wiggly" Hanson, wife beater and child
> abuser
>
> " ... But there ought to be conferences and studies on how to curb
> minority overpopulation, repatriate minorities abroad, imprison more
> minorities, increase use of the death penalty and divest minorities of
> the power they have usurped over us in recent years. That would
> address the most pressing problems of our day. ... "
> April 2000, Gregory "Piggly Wiggly" Hansonhttp://www.nationalist.org/ATW/2000/040101.html#Hanson
>
> Path:
> news.datemas.de!newsfeed.datemas.de!goblin1!goblin.stu.neva.ru!postnews.google.com!y21g2000yqn.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail
> From: Greegor <greego...@gmail.com>
> Newsgroups:
> misc.kids,alt.support.foster-parents,uk.people.parents,alt.support.child-protective-services
>
> With the Christmas season upon us again, my stepdaughter was launching
> into her usual tirade of "I need this" (Nintendo 64 games, Pokemon,
> videos, Rhianna CD, etc.) After enduring a trip through Kmart, I
> was at my wits end. I took the kid home and filled the bathtub with
> water. Then I dunked the brat's head under the water and counted out
> a full minute, with her flailing her arms. I brought her up and she
> gasped for air. When she'd caught her breath, I asked her, "When you
> were under that water, did you 'need' Nintendo? Pokemon? Rhianna?"
> She shook her head. "What were you thinking about?" I
> prodded. She told me "I was thinking that I needed air."
>
> "Now you know the difference between 'need' and 'want'" I exclaimed
> triumphantly.
>
> --a true story
>
> As of Sunday, Nov. 29, 2009:
> Financials
> Title: STATE OF IOWA VS HANSON, GREG SCOTT
> Case: 06571 AGCR015216 (LINN)
> Citation Number:
>
> Summary Orig Paid Due
> COSTS 9200.00 850.00 8350.00
> FINE 500.00 500.00 0.00
> SURCHARGE 150.00 150.00 0.00
> RESTITUTION 0.00 0.00 0.00
> OTHER 0.00 0.00 0.00
>
> $9850.00 $1500.00 $8350.00
>
> Yes, Gregory Scott "Piggly Wiggly" Hanson still owes over
> $8000.00 related to his convictions for BEATING his ex-wife.
>
> "I am now a "founded" child abuser for making a
> 7 year old take a fast cold shower."
> -- Gregory Scot "Piggly Wiggly" Hanson bragging in MID
> <cu6H6.14493$3c6.3516...@news1.elmhst1.il.home.com>
> In Message-ID:
> <c7be6a38-8d1d-4c0a-a9d8-6f1c8f392...@n38g2000yqf.googlegroups.com>
> Gregory Scott "Piggly Wiggly" Hanson admitted that by his standards,
> he RAPED his ex-wife. The same ex-wife he was twice convicted for
> BEATING.
> In Message-ID:
> <8db2eada-0546-4c1a-a672-cc2e4c31f...@n38g2000yqf.googlegroups.com>
> Gregory Scott "Piggly Wiggly" Hanson admits that his use and abuse of
> illegal drugs forced him to LIE about the existence of certain
> photographs.
>
> Me: Hey, he used your standards.
> Gregory Scott "Piggly Wiggly" Hanson: It's textbook psychopathic
> reasoning.
>
> Greg admitting his standards are psychopathic.
Greegor
David Daniel Moore DOB 9/26/70 Birth Mother Judith Ulanowski
On Jan 21, 3:34 pm, dmoore <dmoore0404 at gmail.com> wrote:
DDM > I got a few emails asking about this. I did recently
DDM > contact Ken Pangborn's service provider because
DDM > he has been harassing not only me, but my wife
DDM > and my mother. He's doing this for no other
DDM > reason than my having the same name as
DDM > some guy he has been arguing with. He also
DDM > tried to tell me that this other David is at fault
DDM > for Ken's harassment.
The way you describe it is certainly VERY different
from the copy of those e-mails that I saw!
In fact it's the STRANGEST thing about
the IP addresses you send stuff from!
DDM > A couple days after I contacted Roadrunner,
DDM > I received mail from them advising that they
DDM > had acted upon my complaint, but they were
DDM > not able to div ulge specifics about the action.
DDM > The harassment from the Roadrunner
DDM > address did cease at that time,
So WHY are you posting this in usenet?
Just curious.
DDM > but continues through "greegor" which I am
DDM > assuming is another account owned by this man.
Nah, I am another person, for real.
DDM > I'm not interested in being part of
DDM > any feud, posting testimonials on
DDM > any website or anything of the sort.
What do you think you just did?
DDM > I just want the harassment of my
DDM > family to stop. I am not the
DDM > Dav id Moore with whom you people
Which "you people"?
You supposedly thought I was the same person.
DDM > are arguing, and it shouldnt take much
DDM > common sense to figure that out.
Common sense?
Your recent post on Jan 21, 2010 was posted from 173.121.100.75
http://www.geobytes.com/IpLocator.htm?GetLocation
http://www.ip2location.com/demo.aspx
Sprint PCS DSL in Miami? That's odd!
On 29 Jul 2008 you posted from 68.28.147.119
Sprint PCS DSL in the Chicago Illinois area?
dmoore0404 at gmail.com
This is strange! It looks like you posted 9 messages
but they've been deleted. Why would you do that?
Why didn't you take your issue to law enforcement?
Afraid they might ask why you have a Miami IP address?
LOL
Director
Greegor <gree...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Can't you
Flush!
Greegor
freedom
Salameh**, wrote:
>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.child-protective-services/msg/e=
>f3900cf3b4bf827?dmode=3Dsource
>
>(innocent person's info snipped)
>
>On Jan 21, 3:34 pm, dmoore <dmoore0404 at gmail.com> wrote:
>DDM > I got a few emails asking about this. I did recently
>DDM > contact Ken Pangborn's service provider because
>DDM > he has been harassing not only me, but my wife
>DDM > and my mother. He's doing this for no other
>DDM > reason than my having the same name as
>DDM > some guy he has been arguing with. He also
>DDM > tried to tell me that this other David is at fault
>DDM > for Ken's harassment.
>
>The way you describe it is certainly VERY different
>from the copy of those e-mails that I saw!
"If you are truly NOT the David Moore that posts via anonymous remailers,
then I suggest that this is an issue you take up with him, since it was HE
I responded to. The post you CRY about was a REPLY to DAVID MOORE posting
as "Freedom" via the frell remailer. If you have a legitimate gripe, I
suggest you take it up with him"
.....in other words, it's somehow my fault that Ken posted David's
information.
>
>In fact it's the STRANGEST thing about
>the IP addresses you send stuff from!
As if you even know how to read an IP address.
>
>DDM > A couple days after I contacted Roadrunner,
>DDM > I received mail from them advising that they
>DDM > had acted upon my complaint, but they were
>DDM > not able to div ulge specifics about the action.
>DDM > The harassment from the Roadrunner
>DDM > address did cease at that time,
>
>So WHY are you posting this in usenet?
>Just curious.
Maybe because this is the same forum in which you routinely post lies about=
him? Just a guess.
>
>DDM > but continues through "greegor" which I am
>DDM > assuming is another account owned by this man.
>
>Nah, I am another person, for real.
Hardly....you are little more than a Pangborn puppet. You repeat what he
tells you to. It's sadly obvious.
>
>DDM > I'm not interested in being part of
>DDM > any feud, posting testimonials on
>DDM > any website or anything of the sort.
>
>What do you think you just did?
>
>DDM > I just want the harassment of my
>DDM > family to stop. I am not the
>DDM > Dav id Moore with whom you people
>
>Which "you people"?
>You supposedly thought I was the same person.
>
>DDM > are arguing, and it shouldnt take much
>DDM > common sense to figure that out.
>
>Common sense?
>
>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.child-protective-services/msg/e=
>f3900cf3b4bf827?dmode=3Dsource
>
>Your recent post on Jan 21, 2010 was posted from 173.121.100.75
>
>http://www.geobytes.com/IpLocator.htm?GetLocation
>
>http://www.ip2location.com/demo.aspx
>
>Sprint PCS DSL in Miami? That's odd!
Yes, extremely. Especially given the fact that you and Ken swear, up and
down, that he lives in the suburbs of Chicago. You've even posted pictures=
of trees which you claim are in front of his home.
Oops, did you just unwittingly expose another of Ken's lies? He won't be
too happy with you, once he solves his little connectivity problem.
>
>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.child-protective-services/msg/8=
>afe20ca6b34d154?dmode=3Dsource
>
>On 29 Jul 2008 you posted from 68.28.147.119
>
>Sprint PCS DSL in the Chicago Illinois area?
>
>http://groups.google.com/groups/profile?enc_user=3DDYR81xQAAAAewRpVT7XfDgu=
WN
>JiV5hjbOPANdqfI6prRsqjc7uCt1A
>
>dmoore0404 at gmail.com
>
>This is strange! It looks like you posted 9 messages
>but they've been deleted. Why would you do that?
Funny, I can only find two.
And yet, you've posted hundreds of messages devoted to him.
>
>Why didn't you take your issue to law enforcement?
>
>Afraid they might ask why you have a Miami IP address?
>
>LOL
People in Miami aren't allowed to participate in usenet?
Could you be dumber, Marwan? It's no wonder al Qaeda rejected you**.
freedom
>I got a few emails asking about this. I did recently contact Ken
>Pangborn's service provider because he has been harassing not only me,
>but my wife and my mother. He's doing this for no other reason than
>my having the same name as some guy he has been arguing with. He also
>tried to tell me that this other David is at fault for Ken's
>harassment.
Because, God knows, Ken could never be responsible for his own actions.
When his daughter began making pornographic movies, it was his ex-wife's
fault. When his third marriage failed, it was his ex-wife's fault. When
he managed his money so poorly that he was forced into bankruptcy, it was
his ex-wife's fault. See a pattern?
>
>A couple days after I contacted Roadrunner, I received mail from them
>advising that they had acted upon my complaint, but they were not able
>to div ulge specifics about the action. The harassment from the
>Roadrunner address did cease at that time, but continues through
>"greegor" which I am assuming is another account owned by this man.
This is partially accurate. Although Greg is a separate person, as
evidenced by legal records which prove him a registered child abuser, he is=
"owned" by Ken Pangborn. Ken writes Greg's posts for him.
Well, at least he did, until you had to go and interfere with Ken's high
speed internet access....LOL
>
>I'm not interested in being part of any feud, posting testimonials on
>any website or anything of the sort. I just want the harassment of my
>family to stop.=20
Unfortunately, harassment is Ken's M.O. and he won't likely stop. He's
been harassing me for years now...best you can hope for is that he drinks
himself to death some night. (He's not in good health, is obese and makes
poor choices, so you probably won't have long to wait.) If you indeed got
his internet access pulled, you've brought yourself to his attention,
regardless of the fact that you were perfectly justified in doing so.
He'll no doubt threaten you with all sorts of legal action, arrest, etc.
It doesn't matter to him that you or your family aren't involved in this.
He has no problem with harassing elderly people, women or children. An
example of the depths to which he'll sink: a family member of mine....a
child....died in the 9/11 attacks. He publicly poked fun at me and made
jokes about it.
I am not the Dav id Moore with whom you people are
>arguing, and it shouldnt take much common sense to figure that out.
Ken doesn't have much common sense. I run a web page which details his
fraud and harassment, so that his prospective clients can be forewarned
about him. I estimate that the site has cost him at least $60,000 in lost
business (he filed bankruptcy, and reported that he went from 90k to 30k
earnings in less than a year.) I would have removed the site
(http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com) with a simple public apology from Ken for=
lies he told about me some years ago. He chose not to take me up on this,
and as a result, his name is in the search engines, so that anyone who
researches him will inevitably read this site.
Greegor
Why are you bitching about him now?
Director
Kent Wills <comp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Sat, 23 Jan 2010 17:34:50 -0600, Kent Wills <comp...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
Greegor
Director
Greegor <gree...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Dave, Ken left January 5th, 19 days ago.
> Why are you bitching about him now?
Who gives a shit?
Director
Kent Wills <comp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Sun, 24 Jan 2010 13:29:26 -0800 (PST), Greegor
> <gree...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
Flush.