HST simplified...please
lucky(one)
can't seem to grasp just what the jist of it is.
I am not one for real complicated routines and cycles. If that is what it
is maybe it just isn't for me. I'm not a complete dumbass or anything but
maybe a little lazy when it comes to figuring this stuff out.
Does anyone know of a site that just lays it out real simple like? Or does
anyone care to explain it to me and others like me who might find this
thread?
thanks in advance for any directions, advice, insight, insults, flames, or
whatever.
joanne
On Oct 18, 7:28 pm, "lucky\(one\)" <lucky(1)@insightbb.com> wrote:
> > Does anyone know of a site that just lays it out real simple like? Or does
> anyone care to explain it to me and others like me who might find this
> thread?
http://www.hypertrophy-specific.com/hst_index.html
2nd page gives you a routine example/check out their articles section
too
joanne
Spammers_Should_Be_Shot
"lucky(one)" <lucky(1)@insightbb.com> wrote in message
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While Joanne normally gives out crap advice I do agree that (if you haven't
already) you need to read the articles on the HST site. If you have read
that and are still confused then let us know. I follow a modified HST
routine and think HST is great for a lot of people. Keep in mind you should
understand is the underlying principles, you don't have to follow it to the
letter, but the basic ideas are very sound.
mulbish
again.
hmmmm......this guy uses BIG words and technical terms that are beyond
my scope of knowledge but I think I've muddled through it.
HST:
~use mainly compound exercises
~determine 15, 10, 5 rep wgt max's
~cycle is 4 x 2 week blocks
~whole body workouts 3X a week (M,W,F)
~1-2 sets per exercise/?body part?
~start with 15 rep first block ending second week at max wgts increased
incrementally @ 5 lbs.
~subsequent week decrease reps by 5, increase wgt by 5-10.
~after 4th block either continue with another block of 5 rep or do
negatives for a block
~take a full week off
~start over
~skip 15 rep block on second and subsequent cycles if no injuries.
I assume you don't have to re-establish your max wgts for subsequent
cycles but rather just add 5-10 lbs from last cycle.
mulbish
mulbish
wgts are, because you automatically add 5-10 lbs, right?
geek_girl
> and how do you use the calculator?
It seems that HST is too complicated for you. How about you just follow
a couple of the basic principles and forget all about the 15,10,5
stuff? Do mainly compound exercises, full body workout 3 times per
week, 5-10 reps, and take a week off every couple of months. As long
as you eat enough, that should work just fine (assuming your goal is
increased muscle mass.)
mulbish
well, that's very kind of you to say so. 'acth! u could just point me
in the right direction or hint to where I have missed the point. I am
working off a couple of pages posted on a web site so far...but thanks.
for all others i found this site as well :
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/paul4.htm
it's claim of "HST for Dummies" is obviously what i need.
Bill Eitner
lucky(one) wrote:
> I have surfed around looking at HST and it sounds like good stuff but I
> can't seem to grasp just what the jist of it is.
Spend time at the site and keep reading it until
it comes to you.
There's a forum there where you can ask specific
questions and read more info.
> I am not one for real complicated routines and cycles.
But maybe you should be. Once you grasp it
it's not that difficult. Keep reading it
until you get it.
> If that is what it
> is maybe it just isn't for me.
It's only complicated until you understand it.
From then on it's easy--you go to the gym and
you do what you have to do each session just
like you always have. The difference is in
the planning. HST training is well planned.
> I'm not a complete dumbass or anything but
> maybe a little lazy when it comes to figuring this stuff out.
There is a bit of work and figuring that has
to be done. You have to choose your exercises,
do the work to figure out the maximum weights
for each rep range, and plan the actual workouts.
> Does anyone know of a site that just lays it out real simple like?
The HST site lays it out as simply as it can be
laid out. You have to individualize it yourself.
> Or does
> anyone care to explain it to me and others like me who might find this
> thread?
If you spend enough time on the HST site and forum,
you'll eventually get it. And in the meantime
just do the best you can. If you've been training
steadily with heavy weights lately, take two weeks
off. Spend that time studying HST.
> thanks in advance for any directions, advice, insight, insults, flames, or
> whatever.
You're welcome and good luck. Don't give up on HST.
It's a good system and is worth the time to learn.
--
JMW
You're confusing the lad, Sarah Jane. Everybody knows that the spell
doesn't work without the complex magic rituals.
geek_girl
Seriously, you don't have to do HST. If you can't figure it out from
the materials that you've already seen, then don't even bother. It's
not worth the effort. Just follow the basic principles - the ones I
already mentioned, plus the one I forgot to mention - add more weight
to the bar over time. You don't even have to increase the weight at
every workout, or even every week, just whenever you feel like you can.
It'll work just fine. It's worked for many, many people for many, many
years.
geek_girl
Bah. Consistency is the magic ingredient. Well, consistency and eye of
newt.
lucky(one)
but I think i understand it and stated it pretty well in the e-mail you
replied to. If I've got it wrong or missed something please point it out
unless I am so far off it would just be too much work.
I do understand what you are saying about it working w/o all the detailed
stuff though. And that may be a better option.
"geek_girl" <sarah.b...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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geek_girl
lucky(one) (1) wrote:
> my question to you is what am I missing. you say it's too comfusing for me.
> but I think i understand it and stated it pretty well in the e-mail you
> replied to. If I've got it wrong or missed something please point it out
> unless I am so far off it would just be too much work.
I don't see where you stated it. I see a lot of questions, and a link
to an "HST for Dummies" website. Where you did you post that you
understand it?
> I do understand what you are saying about it working w/o all the detailed
> stuff though. And that may be a better option.
Yes.
lucky(one)
>to an "HST for Dummies" website. Where you did you >post that you
>understand it?
well, I think I know what the confusion may be....when I posted what I
understood, I did it from my pc @ work, and that was a web based response
via google where I am "mulbish"...sorry...see below:
HST:
"geek_girl" <sarah.b...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1161386565....@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
geek_girl
lucky(one) (1) wrote:
> >I don't see where you stated it. I see a lot of questions, >and a link
> >to an "HST for Dummies" website. Where you did you >post that you
> >understand it?
>
>
> well, I think I know what the confusion may be....when I posted what I
> understood, I did it from my pc @ work, and that was a web based response
> via google where I am "mulbish"...sorry...see below:
Oh, that. I figured out that you were mulbish, so that's not where the
confusion lies. The confusion lies in the fact that you posted your
list of HST principles, but subsequently posted a couple more questions
that indicated that you *didn't* really understand it.
mulbish
complete list of the principles followed by a few questions and you
don't think I get it. Is your brain half full or half empty. Are you
just critical by nature. The list by itself should be evident that I
do in fact understand and I just have a few questions. I'll stop now
but do me one favor and do not reply to any of my post in the future.
THANK YOU.
Lee Michaels
"mulbish" <luc...@insightbb.com> wrote in message
news:1161456528....@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> ya know I usually do not engage in such drivel...but...I post a
> complete list of the principles followed by a few questions and you
> don't think I get it. Is your brain half full or half empty. Are you
> just critical by nature. The list by itself should be evident that I
> do in fact understand and I just have a few questions. I'll stop now
> but do me one favor and do not reply to any of my post in the future.
> THANK YOU.
>
Didn't you know that she was flirting with you?
geek_girl
> ya know I usually do not engage in such drivel...but...I post a
> complete list of the principles followed by a few questions and you
> don't think I get it. Is your brain half full or half empty. Are you
> just critical by nature. The list by itself should be evident that I
> do in fact understand and I just have a few questions. I'll stop now
> but do me one favor and do not reply to any of my post in the future.
> THANK YOU.
>
The question about how to use the calculator clearly indicated that you
didn't really understand HST. If you truly understood the principles
rather than just being able to parrot them, the calculator would make
perfect sense to you.
Sorry, you don't get to control who does or does not respond to your
posts. In any case, you appear to be upset and I don't understand why.
I gave you some advice that was intended to be helpful. If you choose
not to see it that way, for whatever bizarre reasons you may have,
that's your problem. If you're so thin-skinned that you can't handle it
when people respond to what you wrote rather than what you wish you'd
written, then mfw is not the place for you.
Curt James
> ya know I usually do not engage in such drivel...
So you have something against drivel? What has drivel done to you?
> I'll stop now but do me one favor and do not reply to
> any of my post in the future.
This is Usenet and as such you don't get to choose who replies to your
posts, pal. You can, however, add/create/make/implement one of those
killfile doodads in order to filter out what or who you see has replied
to your posts. Cowardly in some ways, imo, but what some consider an
effective management tool as well.
> THANK YOU.
YOU'RE WELCOME!
--
Curt
JMW
>
>If you truly understood the principles
>rather than just being able to parrot
>them, the calculator would make
>perfect sense to you.
It seems to me that MFW has recently become filled with "advisors" who
Google and parrot but have no real understanding of the underlying
subject matter.
Curt James
[...]
> It seems to me that MFW has recently become filled
> with "advisors" who Google and parrot but have no real
> understanding of the underlying subject matter.
If ooooonly everyone were just like you, Johnny.
(averts eyes)
We're not worthy!
--
Curt
JMW
> John Williams wrote:
> [...]
>
> > It seems to me that MFW has recently become filled
> > with "advisors" who Google and parrot but have no real
> > understanding of the underlying subject matter.
>
> If ooooonly everyone were just like you, Johnny.
And up jumps the Crown Prince of Googled Cluelessness.
Charles
Is that the same sort of thing as a tubby old man posting a link to a
video of him doing a deadlift hopelessly wrong?
Have a great weekend John - I am! ;o)
JMW
Charles wrote:
> On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 17:20:14 -0400, JMW
> <jmwil...@enforcergraphics.f2s.com> wrote:
>
> >"geek_girl" <sarah.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>If you truly understood the principles
> >>rather than just being able to parrot
> >>them, the calculator would make
> >>perfect sense to you.
> >
> >It seems to me that MFW has recently become filled with "advisors" who
> >Google and parrot but have no real understanding of the underlying
> >subject matter.
>
http://www.looevalleyrotary.org/JH%20Trafalgar.jpg
Yes.
Curt James
[...]
> http://www.looevalleyrotary.org/JH%20Trafalgar.jpg
[...]
Williams, you're not a Rotarian, are you?
That's okay. Neither am I.
Still, it seems rather absurd for you to use images of your seeming
opponents especially when they're decent pics. Hudson as a Rotarian is
a good image. And he looks even better as a person might truncate the
link you provided and see the good works his assocation contributes.
What is it again that you contribute?
Hth.
--
Curt
Charles
>On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 17:20:14 -0400, JMW
><jmwil...@enforcergraphics.f2s.com> wrote:
>
>>"geek_girl" <sarah.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>If you truly understood the principles
>>>rather than just being able to parrot
>>>them, the calculator would make
>>>perfect sense to you.
>>
>>>It seems to me that MFW has recently become filled with "advisors" who
>>>Google and parrot but have no real understanding of the underlying
>>>subject matter.
>
>>Is that the same sort of thing as a tubby old man posting a link to a
>>video of him doing a deadlift hopelessly wrong?
>
>http://www.looevalleyrotary.org/JH%20Trafalgar.jpg
>
>Yes.
No that's me you old silly, and I was quite clearly chairing a
Trafalgar Night Dinner - not demonstrating a deadlift!!
This is the "tubby old man" I indicated, and here is that awful
deadlift again:
http://www.rustyiron.net/usapldl.htm
BAWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA... er... etc.
Hoist by your own petard again fatty! ;o)
HAGW!
Charles
wrote:
He trundles that .jpeg out every time I make him look foolish,
apparently as some kind of fitting retaliation?? Go figure as you
Yanks say! ;o)
I have never posted that picture and he has simply stolen it off my
Rotary Club web site. As you rightly say, there really isn't too much
embarrassing about being President of a Rotary Club.
I doubt at his lowly station in life that he would be eligible to join
a Rotary Club, although his boss probably would.
Have a great weekend Curt - you know I am! ;o)
JMW
That's a fair question, Curt, so I'll answer it.
I belong to a couple of national service organizations. I'm the
webmaster and a long-time Board member for the local chapter of one of
them and previously spent several years on the Board of the local
chapter of the other. Use your Googling talents to figure out what
those organization are.
And yes, I have been asked to stand for president of both local
chapters. I refused. If I don't have the time to devote to doing a
good job as an organization official, I won't even entertain the
possibility. Presidency of a service organization is about service,
not self-promotion.
I also think Hudson should run for president of Looe Valley Rotary
again. It would give him something to do other than drinking and
trolling on Usenet.
Curt James
That's nice, J Dubya. Keep up the good work there, pal!
Say, our mutual buddy, 'bert, may've seen you quote my text above. Hmm.
Wouldn't that make you a conduit? Tsk, tsk, Johnny.
Yup. You, John Williams, are indeed serving as a conduit (remember that
word?) for allowing my words - a so-called troll, according to you, one
of THE trolls, in fact, unless you've altered
your little troll faq - to bypass at least a few kill filters.
Conduit, conduit, conduit! Shhhh, Om's sleeping, but I think you owe
him an apology for that particular accusation or criticism. Ymmv,
obviously.
"However, you also seem to be one of the few remaining conduits for
quoting troll posts."
RING ANY BELLS?
Hey, the best solution may be to just put you on one of Forté Agent's
"timed killfiles" for a few days at a time and see how much of a
difference it makes, right? Right, Emmy? RIGHT?!!!!?!!
So, who's clueless? ;o)
See also:
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.fitness.weights/msg/e00991b74b1c7c01
Hnh. And by your own definition, iirc, that'd also make you a troll
enabler.
David, you out there, brotha? MOVE OVER! YA GOT COMP'NY!!!!
Ref: http://www.rustyiron.net/trollfaq.htm
http://www.rustyiron.net/trollist.htm
http://www.fitnwell.net/mfw_troll_filter_faq.htm
--
Curt
Curt James
> Curt James wrote:
> > John Williams offered:
> > [...]
> >
> > > http://www.looevalleyrotary.org/JH%20Trafalgar.jpg
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > Williams, you're not a Rotarian, are you?
> >
> > That's okay. Neither am I.
> >
> > Still, it seems rather absurd for you to use images of your seeming
> > opponents especially when they're decent pics. Hudson as a Rotarian is
> > a good image. And he looks even better as a person might truncate the
> > link you provided and see the good works his assocation contributes.
> >
> > What is it again that you contribute?
>
> That's a fair question, Curt, so I'll answer it.
heh
What's your criteria for fair questions as I believe you've avoided a
more than fair number in the past.
> I belong to a couple of national service organizations.
-=snipped the self-promotion=-
> Presidency of a service organization is about service,
> not self-promotion.
ahahahAHHA! Service and not self-promotion? So how do you balance that
alleged belief against tooting your own in an Internet newsgroup?
Like I said, if ooooonly everyone were just like you!
[...]
--
Curt
Jason Earl
Hey! I at least warn people that I probably don't know that the heck
I am talking about.
Jason
JMW
I really don't see you doing that. I've read enough of your stuff to
know that you are interested in learning and can actually discuss the
subject matter. There's a difference.
Not long ago, someone (Will Brink maybe?) posted a link to a study
that established something which is actually rather intuitive: the
truly clueless don't even know that they're clueless. I'm starting to
see a lot of that.
Charles
There is many a precedent for this kind of behaviour, but a simple
example from fiction will explain it better than drawing attention to
any of your obvious symptoms of mental illness.
You may see parallels with your own life in HCA's story about the
King's new suit!
HTH!
Have a great Sunday John - I intend to, and yes, I'm going to be
"drinking" again, shocking though that may be to you as a
self-confessed alcoholic and drug addict.
(I just thought you ought to know that!)
Charles
>On Sun, 22 Oct 2006 00:36:40 -0400, JMW
><jmwil...@enforcergraphics.f2s.com> wrote:
>
>>Not long ago, someone (Will Brink maybe?) posted a link to a study
>>that established something which is actually rather intuitive: the
>>truly clueless don't even know that they're clueless. I'm starting to
>>see a lot of that.
>
>You are one of the most twisted people I have ever met on Usenet. You
>spend time playing with Curt's nipples in Photoshop. Then post the
>images up on your website so you can show everyone what you do in your
>spare time. And we are the clueless ones?
You appear to have got the measure of the man Shute; it's double
standards with him all the time, whereby he is the worst kind of
practitioner of all those faults and practices he complains about in
other people.
He is a complete and utter self-promoting fraud and a very unpleasant
person to boot - and a well placed boot up his arse would be very
deserved.
Have a great Sunday Shute - I always do! ;o)
Charles
>
>Curt James wrote:
>> John Williams offered:
>> [...]
>>
>> > http://www.looevalleyrotary.org/JH%20Trafalgar.jpg
>>
>> [...]
>>
>> Williams, you're not a Rotarian, are you?
>>
>> That's okay. Neither am I.
>>
>> Still, it seems rather absurd for you to use images of your seeming
>> opponents especially when they're decent pics. Hudson as a Rotarian is
>> a good image. And he looks even better as a person might truncate the
>> link you provided and see the good works his assocation contributes.
>>
>> What is it again that you contribute?
>
>That's a fair question, Curt, so I'll answer it.
>
>I belong to a couple of national service organizations. I'm the
>webmaster and a long-time Board member for the local chapter of one of
>them and previously spent several years on the Board of the local
>chapter of the other. Use your Googling talents to figure out what
>those organization are.
>
>And yes, I have been asked to stand for president of both local
>chapters. I refused. If I don't have the time to devote to doing a
>good job as an organization official, I won't even entertain the
>possibility. Presidency of a service organization is about service,
>not self-promotion.
As those of us who have done it, and continue so to do, can bear
witness!
>
>I also think Hudson should run for president of Looe Valley Rotary
>again. It would give him something to do other than drinking and
>trolling on Usenet.
I no longer live or work in the local area, which was where I lived
and farmed and had other business interests during the bulk of my
Armed Forces career, it being quite close to the Naval Dockyard in
Devonport. I'm still a member of the Club but don't attend as often as
I would like.
However, I have retained a home there, which we use on a regular basis
particularly in the summer. Of course, I belong to other organisations
but I would not be foolish enough to let you have details of those,
given your obsessive stalking predilections.
You would in no way be allowed entry to the most prestigious of my
interests, some of which involve a heavy commitment to the Livery
Companies of the City of London, and of course my London club.
My rugby club would of course welcome you with open arms, particularly
as some of them already know about you and your hilarious on-line
antics. They would gleefully beat most of the shit out of you and show
you just how tough you really are! Sadly, my playing days are coming
to an end and I have been shoved upstairs to the Committee, while also
achieving distinctive Alickadoo status! ;o)
I just thought I'd share that with you!
HAGS!
JMW
>On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 17:20:14 -0400, JMW
><jmwil...@enforcergraphics.f2s.com> wrote:
>
>>It seems to me that MFW has recently become filled with "advisors" who
>>Google and parrot but have no real understanding of the underlying
>>subject matter.
>
>As opposed to you who knows all and says nothing.
What could one possibly say to you?
JMW
>On Sun, 22 Oct 2006 00:36:40 -0400, JMW
><jmwil...@enforcergraphics.f2s.com> wrote:
>
>>Not long ago, someone (Will Brink maybe?) posted a link to a study
>>that established something which is actually rather intuitive: the
>>truly clueless don't even know that they're clueless. I'm starting to
>>see a lot of that.
>
>You are one of the most twisted people I have ever met on Usenet. You
>spend time playing with Curt's nipples in Photoshop.
Photographs of Curt are a blank canvas for comical artwork. His
personality is the inspiration. If Curt didn't exist, some humorist
would be obliged to invent him.
>Then post the
>images up on your website so you can show everyone what you do in your
>spare time.
Is your concern about that part of your privacy/anonymity obsession?
Have you ever considered the possibility that you're just a pussy?
Charles
Of course, I forgot to draw attention last night to your adoption of
Henry Hankysteen's slimy tactic of <snipping> those parts of a
sentence or paragraph which show you in a poor light.
You did by responding to only a small part of the sentence above, in
order to turn the criticism back on me, which indicates quite clearly
that you have lost the plot old man, and are having to resort to idiot
"troll" tricks to try and score cheap points.
For the record, the sentence you <snipped> was originally:
"Is that the same sort of thing as a tubby old man posting a link to a
video of himself doing a deadlift hopelessly wrong?"
I just thought you ought to know that John 'Hankymanimitator'
Williams! ;o)
HAGS!
Charles
I don't really know much about Shute except that he appears to have
got you weighed off.
However, when it comes to you describing people you don't know as
"pussies", then this little snap of you might indicate your own
leanings in that direction:
http://www.fitnwell.net/john%20williams_cassie.jpg
How sweet John Boy - who's a little coochie coo then? ;o)
HAGS!
JMW
> - and a well placed boot up his arse would be very
> deserved.
I guess you'd better find someone who can do it, since you know I'd
beat you senseless.
Charles
>>Charles wrote:
>
>>You appear to have got the measure of the man Shute; it's double
>>standards with him all the time, whereby he is the worst kind of
>>practitioner of all those faults and practices he complains about in
>>other people.
>
>>He is a complete and utter self-promoting fraud and a very unpleasant
>>person to boot - and a well placed boot up his arse would be very
>>deserved.
I have a facility to re-insert the selective <snipping> you have
copied from the Hankyman, so it won't profit you at all to continue
adopting his pathetic and wayward habits!
>
>I guess you'd better find someone who can do it, since you know I'd
>beat you senseless.
You really are scraping the barrel now John Williams, offering on-line
violence as a way of extricating yourself from the endless holes you
dig yourself.
While I have no intention of responding your blustering would-be bully
boy threats of physical violence, you would be foolish in the extreme
to even begin to believe that my apparent effete cybernet persona,
indicates that a tub of lard like you would be able to intimidate or
subdue me in any way. You appear to have forgotten what I used to do
for a living! ;o)
The "boot up the arse" expression is a rugby club jibe and was merely
meant to convey, that if you came to an English rugby club and behaved
the way you do here, you would be very quickly reappraised and hacked
down to size collectively - or figuratively, given a good boot up the
arse.
It was in no way a threat of physical threat of violence from me to
you, unlike your very confrontational response - which was utterly
banal and meaningless. And certainly not the conduct of an officer of
the court. Such unprofessional behaviour would result in someone in
the law in the UK getting struck off!
I thought you had decided to forgo the pleasure of responding to me
direct? It's quite uncanny how I manage to draw you out John Williams,
despite all your resolve not to fall into the trap! ;o)
I just thought you ought to know that you silly old man. For goodness
sake grown up and act your age.
How about 'little fingers' Johnny dear? <VBG>
HAGS!
JMW
>
> you would be foolish in the extreme
> to even begin to believe that my apparent effete cybernet persona,
You misspelled "effeminate."
HTH
> You appear to have forgotten what I used to do
> for a living! ;o)
It involved a toilet brush, yes?
Charles
>>On Sun, 22 Oct 2006 10:17:41 +0100, Charles <j...@msn.com> wrote:
>On 22 Oct 2006 01:37:06 -0700, "JMW" <jmwill...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>>Charles wrote:
>>
>>>You appear to have got the measure of the man Shute; it's double
>>>standards with him all the time, whereby he is the worst kind of
>>>practitioner of all those faults and practices he complains about in
>>>other people.
>>
>>>He is a complete and utter self-promoting fraud and a very unpleasant
>>>person to boot - and a well placed boot up his arse would be very
>>>deserved.
>
>>I have a facility to re-insert the selective <snipping> you have
>>copied from the Hankyman, so it won't profit you at all to continue
>>adopting his pathetic and wayward habits!
>
>>
>>I guess you'd better find someone who can do it, since you know I'd
>>beat you senseless.
>
>>You really are scraping the barrel now John Williams, offering on-line
>>violence as a way of extricating yourself from the endless holes you
>>dig yourself.
>
>>While I have no intention of responding your blustering would-be bully
>>boy threats of physical violence, you would be foolish in the extreme
>>to even begin to believe that my apparent effete cybernet persona,
>You misspelled "effeminate."
But I didn't use the word "effeminate" Mr John "Hankyman" Williams,
you silly old thing, your seeing things again.
>>indicates that a tub of lard like you would be able to intimidate or
>>subdue me in any way. You appear to have forgotten what I used to do
>>for a living! ;o)
>It involved a toilet brush, yes?
Er... no it didn't actually; you seem confused again Mr John
"Hankyman" Williams, you didn't 'slip up' and hit the bottle or the
wacky baccy again last night did you? - You *are* up very late!! ;o)
>
>>The "boot up the arse" expression is a rugby club jibe and was merely
>>meant to convey, that if you came to an English rugby club and behaved
>>the way you do here, you would be very quickly reappraised and hacked
>>down to size collectively - or figuratively, given a good boot up the
>>arse.
>
>>It was in no way a threat of physical threat of violence from me to
>>you, unlike your very confrontational response - which was utterly
>>banal and meaningless. And certainly not the conduct of an officer of
>>the court. Such unprofessional behaviour would result in someone in
>>the law in the UK getting struck off!
>
>>I thought you had decided to forgo the pleasure of responding to me
>>direct? It's quite uncanny how I manage to draw you out John Williams,
>>despite all your resolve not to fall into the trap! ;o)
>
>>I just thought you ought to know that you silly old man. For goodness
>>sake grown up and act your age.
>
>>How about 'little fingers' Johnny dear? <VBG>
Your silly responses above are examples of 'repartee' of the poorest
quality John Williams, and would perhaps be more suited to a teenager
type chat room (not that I have any experience of such places!).
You really used to be capable of much better. If you don't raise your
game I may have to kick you into touch! (No dear, that's not an offer
of violence, it's purely another English expression meaning I will no
longer answer the door when you come knocking wanting me to play.) ;o)
HTH!
HAGS!
Charles
Of course that should read: "you're", a silly mistake - sorry John!
;o)
mulbish
geek_girl wrote:
> mulbish wrote:
> > ya know I usually do not engage in such drivel...but...I post a
> > complete list of the principles followed by a few questions and you
> > don't think I get it. Is your brain half full or half empty. Are you
> > just critical by nature. The list by itself should be evident that I
> > do in fact understand and I just have a few questions. I'll stop now
> > but do me one favor and do not reply to any of my post in the future.
> > THANK YOU.
> >
>
> The question about how to use the calculator clearly indicated that you
> didn't really understand HST. If you truly understood the principles
> rather than just being able to parrot them, the calculator would make
> perfect sense to you.
>
> posts. In any case, you appear to be upset and I don't understand why.
> I gave you some advice that was intended to be helpful. If you choose
> not to see it that way, for whatever bizarre reasons you may have,
> that's your problem. If you're so thin-skinned that you can't handle it
> when people respond to what you wrote rather than what you wish you'd
> written, then mfw is not the place for you.
First Geek_Girl, I apologize, sincerely. I was a bit thin skinned and
you did offer a simplified HST exactly, as I requested. And for that,
I thank you.
I just took offense when you said I didn't understand after I
"parroted" (it's not like I "snipped" it, I read it through and stated
the points as I understood them to be) the program. Even though I read
it through and felt I understood it well enough and only needed a
little guidance on a few things. And I don't think not understanding
the calculator necessarily equates to not understanding HST.
Could you please tell me what the "Inc" at the top of the columns
stands for? I assume the "RM" is for reps, even though I haven't seen
this used before. And the "1" through "6" is the three works out per
week over a two week period.
I may end up using your simplified option as it seems easier to keep up
with. But since I've put some effort into understanding the program I
would like to figure the calculator out.
Thanks, and again I apologize for being so defensive.
Curt James
[...]
> Not long ago, someone (Will Brink maybe?) posted a link to a study
> that established something which is actually rather intuitive: the
> truly clueless don't even know that they're clueless.
Unconscious incompetence, John Williams.
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.fitness.weights/search?group=misc.fitness.weights&q=unconscious+incompetence&qt_g=1&searchnow=Search+this+group
aka http://tinyurl.com/y9dnoq
Hth.
> I'm starting to see a lot of that.
Was that a typo, John? "See" for the intended "be"?
--
Curt
Curt James
> Charles wrote:
[...]
> > - and a well placed boot up his arse would be very deserved.
>
> I guess you'd better find someone who can do it, since you know
> I'd beat you senseless.
Stating that a person deserves a "boot up his arse" is very different
from stating that you as an individual could beat another person - a
specific person - senseless.
One is more general as in, "Y has made some poor choices, imo, and a
well placed boot up his arse would be very deserved." And the other is
specific as in, "since you know I'd beat Z senseless." Too specific. A
dangerous, some might say foolish, statement.
But this is what it typically comes down to for people like you, John
Williams - the dreaded keyboard flex.
Unfortunately, you don't know how such an encounter would finalize
until you've actually had that encounter. Oh, certainly you can brag
and make claims and predictions, but you don't know what would happen
until it happens. And sometimes, I'm guessing, when it happens it's too
late to wish it hadn't. There's your combination tongue twister and bit
of advice. ;o)
And did you say you're a lawyer? I thought they were taught to choose
their words carefully. Regardless, I refer you to
http://tinyurl.com/y9dnoq for apparently essential review.
--
Curt
Lee Michaels
> Charles wrote:
>> - and a well placed boot up his arse would be very
>> deserved.
<rhetorical question>
Is chucky whining again?
</rhetorical question>
In addition to whining, chucky has to share his anal obsessions as well.
OmManiPadmeOmelet
"Curt James" <curt...@gmail.com> wrote:
> And did you say you're a lawyer? I thought they were taught to choose
> their words carefully. Regardless, I refer you to
> http://tinyurl.com/y9dnoq for apparently essential review.
>
> --
> Curt
There are always these... The float around the 'net via e-mail from time
to time.
They always make me smile. ;-)
Keep one thing in mind tho, everyone hates lawyers.....
until they NEED ONE! <G>
> These are from actual court transcripts taken from the book Disorder in the
> American Courts. They are things people actually said in court, word for
> word, taken down and now published by court reporters who had the torment
> of staying calm while these exchanges were taking place.
>
> Q: Are you sexually active?
> A: No, I just lie there.
>
>
> Q: What is your date of birth?
> A: July 15.
> Q: What year?
> A: Every year.
>
>
> Q: What gear were you in at the moment of the impact?
> A: Gucci sweats and Reeboks.
>
>
> Q: This myasthenia gravis, does it affect your memory at all?
> A: Yes.
> Q: And in what ways does it affect your memory?
> A: I forget.
> Q: You forget? Can you give us an example of something that you've
> forgotten?
>
>
> Q: How old is your son, the one living with you?
> A: Thirty-eight or thirty-five, I can't remember which.
> Q: How long has he lived with you?
> A: Forty-five years.
>
>
> Q: What was the first thing your husband said to you when he woke up that
> morning?
> A: He said, "Where am I, Cathy?"
> Q: And why did that upset you?
> A: My name is Susan.
>
>
> Q: Do you know if your daughter has ever been involved in voodoo or the
> occult?
> A: We both do.
> Q: Voodoo?
> A: We do.
> Q: You do?
> A: Yes, voodoo.
>
>
> Q: Now doctor, isn't it true that when a person dies in his sleep, he
> doesn't know about it until the next morning?
> A: Did you actually pass the bar exam?
>
>
> Q: The youngest son, the twenty-year-old, how old is he?
>
>
> Q: Were you present when your picture was taken?
>
>
> Q: So the date of conception (of the baby) was August 8th?
> A: Yes.
> Q: And what were you doing at that time?
>
>
> Q: She had three children, right?
> A: Yes.
> Q: How many were boys?
> A: None.
> Q: Were there any girls?
>
>
> Q: How was your first marriage terminated?
> A: By death.
> Q: And by whose death was it terminated?
>
>
> Q: Can you describe the individual?
> A: He was about medium height and had a beard.
> Q: Was this a male, or a female?
>
>
> Q: Is your appearance here this morning pursuant to a deposition notice
> which I sent to your attorney?
> A: No, this is how I dress when I go to work.
>
>
> Q: Doctor, how many autopsies have you performed on dead people?
> A: All my autopsies are performed on dead people.
>
>
> Q: ALL your responses MUST be oral, OK? What school did you go to?
> A: Oral.
>
>
> Q: Do you recall the time that you examined the body?
> A: The autopsy started around 8:30 p.m.
> Q: And Mr. Dennington was dead at the time?
> A: No, he was sitting on the table wondering why I was doing an autopsy.
>
>
> Q: Are you qualified to give a urine sample?
>
>
> Q: Doctor, before you performed the autopsy, did you check for a pulse?
> A: No.
> Q: Did you check for blood pressure?
> A: No.
> Q: Did you check for breathing?
> A: No.
> Q: So, then it is possible that the patient was alive when you began the
> autopsy?
> A: No.
> Q: How can you be so sure, Doctor?
> A: Because his brain was sitting on my desk in a jar.
> Q: But could the patient have still been alive, nevertheless?
> A: Yes, it is possible that he could have been alive and practicing
> law somewhere.
--
Peace, Om
Remove _ to validate e-mails.
"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch" -- Jack Nicholson
JMW
Curt James wrote:
> John Williams wrote:
> > Charles wrote:
> [...]
>
> > > - and a well placed boot up his arse would be very deserved.
> >
> > I guess you'd better find someone who can do it, since you know
> > I'd beat you senseless.
>
> Stating that a person deserves a "boot up his arse" is very different
> from stating that you as an individual could beat another person - a
> specific person - senseless.
>
> One is more general as in, "Y has made some poor choices, imo, and a
> well placed boot up his arse would be very deserved." And the other is
> specific as in, "since you know I'd beat Z senseless." Too specific. A
> dangerous, some might say foolish, statement.
>
> But this is what it typically comes down to for people like you, John
> Williams - the dreaded keyboard flex.
>
> Unfortunately, you don't know how such an encounter would finalize
> until you've actually had that encounter. Oh, certainly you can brag
> and make claims and predictions, but you don't know what would happen
> until it happens.
Well, Semen Cursty, why don't you spend a few hours on your big, bad
Harley; ride over to my house; and threaten to put "a boot up [my]
arse"? We'll see how it turns out for you. Just give me a call, and
I'll be waiting ... alone and unarmed.
You're taller, younger, and weigh about the same. What have you to
fear?
Curt James
> "Curt James" wrote:
re John Williams
> > And did you say you're a lawyer? I thought they were taught
> > to choose their words carefully. Regardless, I refer you to
> > http://tinyurl.com/y9dnoq for apparently essential review.
> >
> > Curt
>
> There are always these... The float around the 'net via e-mail from
> time to time.
>
> They always make me smile. ;-)
>
> Keep one thing in mind tho, everyone hates lawyers.....
>
> until they NEED ONE! <G>
;o) heh
But, to be clear, Om, I do not hate lawyers. I don't even hate John M.
Williams. I do, however, recognize him as someone who is what I'd call
a blowhard as well as a person who makes obvious errors or, worse,
deliberate misstatements.
His calling you a conduit for one while repeatedly acting in a similar
manner. Goose versus gander, anyone? His calling David an enabler while
he in turn exhibits the exact same enabling behavior as a second
example. And certainly his commenting that he could beat a fellow
patron of MFW senseless would be a grossly negligent statement, imo, if
made by any member of the American Bar Association. Unprofessional at
best.
He mentioned Google in a pejorative sense recently. No surprise there
as I've accused him of hypocrisy more than once. It's not libel, imo,
as he is an apparent faithful fan of that search engine. How can he
criticize those who use the search engine while he relies on it as
well? Hypocrite. Of course, his most recent jab was towards those who
parrot without understanding as if he's the only one who has any kind
of ability to comprehend the written word.
A cursory Google led to the following words:
"So, we have come full circle to the concept of professionalism. It is
at the core of what we do as lawyers-but it might not distinguish us.
Rather, it is also at the core of the only workable solution to the
challenge of the corporate scandals. Our corporations can become
better, by our becoming better. Our educational institutions are not
powerless to help; they need only reinforce what every one of us was
raised by our parents to know: that you do not take from another, and
that humans should not be judged by the things they own but by what
they give away. If you believe the latter, the former is no
temptation."
Tom Campbell, Dean, Haas School of Business, UC Berkeley
<http://www.haas.berkeley.edu/faculty/campbell.html>
Does Williams comprehend the concept of professionalism? Williams
succumbs to temptation time and time again, imo. He brags, he name
calls, he self-promotes, he condescends, and now he threatens. At least
from my perspective. Ymmv.
-=snipped the jokes=-
> Peace, Om
I snipped 'em but read (and laughed) as well. Thanks for the words, Om.
--
Curt
Charles
<leemichaels*nadaspam*@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> Charles wrote:
>>> - and a well placed boot up his arse would be very
>>> deserved.
>
><rhetorical question>
>
>Is chucky whining again?
>
></rhetorical question>
<unequivocal answer>
No, "chucky"[sic] is winning again!
</unequivocal answer>
(If you took your slobbering head out of Williams fat aged arse, you
would be able to speak a little more coherently, instead of with
tongue in cheek.)
>
>In addition to whining, chucky has to share his anal obsessions as well.
>
In addition to winning again "chucky" [sic] is seeing the idiot
Michaels introducing "anal obsessions" from innocuous common cliches
like "boot up the arse", which may mean that the Idiot Michaels takes
it up the bum!
The idiot Michaels certainly looks like a recidivist that has been
repeatedly incarcerated for un-natural practices, which may or may not
include taking or placing it up the bum of those not so inclined!!
See the idiot at:
http://www.fitnwell.net/lee%20michaels.jpg
David Cohen
>>
>>>It seems to me that MFW has recently become filled with "advisors" who
>>>Google and parrot but have no real understanding of the underlying
>>>subject matter.
>>
>>As opposed to you who knows all and says nothing.
>
> What could one possibly say to you?
"Hey, I don't need my windshield washed! Here's a buck. Go away."
David
Curt James
> Shute wrote:
> >JMW wrote:
> >
> >><snip> the truly clueless don't even know that they're clueless.
Unconscious incompetence, John. You'd think you'd be familiar with that
term by now.
> >>I'm starting to see a lot of that.
Lots of mirrors in your home? ;o)
> >You are one of the most twisted people I have ever met on Usenet.
> >You spend time playing with Curt's nipples in Photoshop.
Can you blame him? I'm a SEXAAAY BEAST!!!!
http://www.rustyiron.net/curtinfl.jpg
> Photographs of Curt are a blank canvas for comical artwork.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v108/curt_james/MFW/supahgeeeenius.jpg
Hey, who am I to argue?
> His personality is the inspiration.
My personality could DEFINITELY beat your personality senseless! ;o) Of
course, your personality is the equivalent of the proverbial 97-pound
weakling, John.
> If Curt didn't exist, some humorist would be obliged to invent him.
No doubt.
> >Then post the images up on your website so you can show
> >everyone what you do in your spare time.
Hey, Shute, Williams plays with male nipples.
(shrugs)
Whatsa matta? You some kinda homophobe???
> Is your concern about that part of your privacy/anonymity obsession?
Hold up, J Dubya! What obsession? See, here's your typical BS. The guy
posts under an assumed nickname and suddenly it's an obsession about
privacy and anonymity?
> Have you ever considered the possibility that you're just a pussy?
Like I said, you're a name caller. You condescend. You have issues.
And, yes, your personality is just one of them.
Hth.
--
Curt
JMW
Joe Humble wrote:
> test enan and d-bol.
>
> I'm not suggesting that you are jacked up on such things.
Nope. At least not until I go on vacation where such things are legal.
JMW
>
> Does Williams comprehend the concept of professionalism? Williams
> succumbs to temptation time and time again, imo. He brags, he name
> calls, he self-promotes, he condescends, and now he threatens. At least
> from my perspective.
It's difficult to see things from your perspective:
Curt James
> Curt James wrote:
> > John Williams wrote:
> > > Charles wrote:
> > [...]
> >
> > > > - and a well placed boot up his arse would be very deserved.
> > >
> > > I guess you'd better find someone who can do it, since you know
> > > I'd beat you senseless.
> >
> > Stating that a person deserves a "boot up his arse" is very different
> > from stating that you as an individual could beat another person - a
> > specific person - senseless.
> >
> > One is more general as in, "Y has made some poor choices, imo, and a
> > well placed boot up his arse would be very deserved." And the other is
> > specific as in, "since you know I'd beat Z senseless." Too specific. A
> > dangerous, some might say foolish, statement.
> >
> > But this is what it typically comes down to for
> > people like you, John Williams - the dreaded keyboard flex.
> > Unfortunately, you don't know how such an encounter would finalize
> > until you've actually had that encounter. Oh, certainly you can brag
> > and make claims and predictions, but you don't know what would
> > happen until it happens.
>
> Well, Semen Cursty,
Cursty?
Did you mean Crusty, Curtsy, or something else?
> why don't you spend a few hours on your big, bad Harley; ride over
> to my house;
Ping me with an address.
> and threaten to put "a boot up [my] arse"?
Reading comprehension a problem for you, J Dubya? See above. Or, hey,
I'll repeat it here, "people like you," Johnny.
I don't make threats.
> We'll see how it turns out for you. Just give me a call,
Ping me with a phone number.
> and I'll be waiting ... alone
No friends? No surprise.
> and unarmed.
Egad! Will they be able to reattach your limbs?!
> You're taller,
6'1" last I checked.
> younger,
44 years and about two months.
> and weigh about the same.
I've dipped down to 181.
> What have you to fear?
You might get spit on me?
--
Curt
OmManiPadmeOmelet
"JMW" <jmwill...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> It's difficult to see things from your perspective:
>
> http://www.fitnwell.net/upownass.jpg
That has got to be one of the most priceless photoshop jobs on the
entire internet. ;-)
Charles
<omp_o...@gmail.com> wrote:
>In article <1161537007....@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
> "JMW" <jmwill...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> It's difficult to see things from your perspective:
>>
>> http://www.fitnwell.net/upownass.jpg
>
>That has got to be one of the most priceless photoshop jobs on the
>entire internet. ;-)
Well John 'Beat you Senseless' Williams has as usual misappropriated
something from my web site, and once again used it for his own
purpose.
The original caption has it as:
"Lucas Buck & Proton Soul (Who are interchangeable
bookends)" ;o)
See:
http://www.fitnwell.net/MFW%20Photos.htm
Hope you're having a great Sunday Om mate - I am, although it's
rapidly running out! ;o)
Charles
Yet another unprovoked offer of violence Mr Williams; have you been
overdoing it on the Steroids again?
Charles
Be careful Cohen, the Hankyman impersonator is in no mood for humour
or cliches, and he may make you the third person today that he has
offered to "beat senseless", cybernetically speaking of course, which
is much safer than actually getting one's arse actually booted for
real. ;o)
Curt James
> "JMW" wrote:
> >Curt James wrote:
> >> John Williams wrote:
> >> > Charles wrote:
> >> [...]
> >>
> >> > > - and a well placed boot up his arse would be very deserved.
> >> >
> >> > I guess you'd better find someone who can do it, since you know
> >> > I'd beat you senseless.
> >>
> >> Stating that a person deserves a "boot up his arse" is very different
> >> from stating that you as an individual could beat another person - a
> >> specific person - senseless.
> >>
> >> One is more general as in, "Y has made some poor choices, imo, and a
> >> well placed boot up his arse would be very deserved." And the other is
> >> specific as in, "since you know I'd beat Z senseless." Too specific. A
> >> dangerous, some might say foolish, statement.
> >>
> >> But this is what it typically comes down to for people like you, John
> >> Williams - the dreaded keyboard flex.
> >>
> >> Unfortunately, you don't know how such an encounter would finalize
> >> until you've actually had that encounter. Oh, certainly you can brag
> >> and make claims and predictions, but you don't know what would happen
> >> until it happens.
> >
> >Well, Semen Cursty,
I still say that was supposed to be either Crusty or Curtsy. Meh.
> >why don't you spend a few hours on your big, bad Harley; ride over to
> >my house; and threaten to put "a boot up [my] arse"?
That would be a decent ride, actually.
> >We'll see how it turns out for you. Just give me a call, and I'll be waiting ...
> >alone and unarmed.
Still no email with an address or phone number, though. Guess his offer
was just so much hot air. Again, meh. And no surprise.
> >You're taller, younger, and weigh about the same.
YOU FORGOT BETTER LOOKING, EMMY! MUCH BETTER LOOKING!
AND ~*LOUDER*~!!!!!!!!
> >What have you to fear?
Your nose? I mean that thing is a lethal weapon. What if you have a
cold? One sneeze and me and my Harley wind up in parts unknown.
> Yet another unprovoked offer of violence Mr Williams;
> have you been overdoing it on the Steroids again?
Oh, come now, Charles! Unprovoked? I'm not sure about that.
Still, some provoke much easier than others. ;o)
--
Curt
OmManiPadmeOmelet
"Curt James" <curt...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Does Williams comprehend the concept of professionalism? Williams
> succumbs to temptation time and time again, imo. He brags, he name
> calls, he self-promotes, he condescends, and now he threatens. At least
> from my perspective. Ymmv.
During my studies on gun handling, (most of the good gun manuals are
written by retired policed officers including Massad Ayoob and Gabriel
Suarez), I've gained a greater understanding of the criminal mind, and a
greater understanding of what the legal system deals with when it comes
to real criminals.
They regard us law abiding citizens as legal prey...... and LEO's as
their sworn enemies.
I have gained a greater regard and respect for what he has to deal with
in his daily career.
This is therapy and relaxation so I'll cut him some slack. ;-)
>
> -=snipped the jokes=-
>
> > Peace, Om
>
> I snipped 'em but read (and laughed) as well. Thanks for the words, Om.
>
>
> --
> Curt
Cheers sir!
Best of luck in turning your students into decent human beings. Most
parents don't have the time to do that anymore. You have a pretty big
responsibility.
So does JMW.
OmManiPadmeOmelet
Charles <j...@msn.com> wrote:
> Hope you're having a great Sunday Om mate - I am, although it's
> rapidly running out! ;o)
I am sir! :-)
I'm chilling out and watching movies but I'll be moving about here
shortly and cleaning up the kitchen. I have an obligation to prepare a
decent Sunday dinner for my father.
Fortunately, it's something I enjoy...
Cheers mate!
Curt James
> JMW wrote:
> >Shute wrote:
> >
> >>You are one of the most twisted people I have ever met on Usenet.
> >>You spend time playing with Curt's nipples in Photoshop.
> >
> >personality is the inspiration. If Curt didn't exist, some humorist
> >would be obliged to invent him.
>
> characters from TV instead of real people.
Uh, I've been on TV.
But, yeah, I'm a "real people" too!
Okay, okay, okay, it was only about 3 seconds of on air time at a
department store. The local news covered the store's Christmas
festivities and the back of my bald head could be seen as I sat drawing
a caricature of one of the shoppers.
I do believe I have at least 14:57 worth of fame coming to me!
> >>Then post the images up on your website so you can show
> >>everyone what you do in your spare time.
> >
> >Is your concern about that part of your privacy/anonymity obsession?
>
> Possibly. But I feel what you do is disturbing. This woman I worked
> with told me how someone had tied all her underwear together in the
> apartments laundry room. The stuff you gives me the same feeling. I
> mean you could have played with Britney Spears breasts but instead
> you chose Curt.
Have you SEEN Britney's breasts lately? Yeesh. Motherhood has not been
kind.
i KEED, i KEED!
> >Have you ever considered the possibility that you're just a pussy?
No, but I'm sure I'm not the only one to consider the possibility that
Williams doesn't get enough pussy! BwahahahHAA! Oh, I crack myself up.
(crickets)
Dammit. And that's my best stuff, too.
> One can protect themselves in many ways. Not offering up
> vulnerabilities doesn't make me a pussy.
True. But where's the fun then?
Seriously, Shute, take J Dub with a grain of salt.
--
Curt
JMW
> JMW <jmwil...@enforcergraphics.f2s.com> wrote:
>
>>Shute <Sh...@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>
>>>You are one of the most twisted people I have ever met on Usenet. You
>>>spend time playing with Curt's nipples in Photoshop.
>>
>>Photographs of Curt are a blank canvas for comical artwork. His
>>personality is the inspiration. If Curt didn't exist, some humorist
>>would be obliged to invent him.
>
>Maybe that is part of your problem. You think people on here are
>characters from TV instead of real people.
Well, *you* use a fake name and act like a sitcom character. Why
should I believe *you* are a "real person"?
>>>Then post the
>>>images up on your website so you can show everyone what you do in your
>>>spare time.
>>
>>Is your concern about that part of your privacy/anonymity obsession?
>
>Possibly. But I feel what you do is disturbing. This woman I worked
>with told me how someone had tied all her underwear together in the
>apartments laundry room. The stuff you gives me the same feeling. I
>mean you could have played with Britney Spears breasts but instead you
>chose Curt.
I have no reason to modify images of Britney Spears's breasts. She
doesn't screech at me on Usenet, nor does she post daily
frothing-at-the-mouth rants about me. Wanna guess who does?
>>Have you ever considered the possibility that you're just a pussy?
>
>One can protect themselves in many ways. Not offering up
>vulnerabilities doesn't make me a pussy.
Most everything else does, though.
JMW
> "Curt James" <curt...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Does Williams comprehend the concept of professionalism? Williams
>> succumbs to temptation time and time again, imo. He brags, he name
>> calls, he self-promotes, he condescends, and now he threatens. At least
>> from my perspective. Ymmv.
>
>During my studies on gun handling, (most of the good gun manuals are
>written by retired policed officers including Massad Ayoob and Gabriel
>Suarez), I've gained a greater understanding of the criminal mind, and a
>greater understanding of what the legal system deals with when it comes
>to real criminals.
>
>They regard us law abiding citizens as legal prey...... and LEO's as
>their sworn enemies.
>
>I have gained a greater regard and respect for what he has to deal with
>in his daily career.
>
>This is therapy and relaxation so I'll cut him some slack. ;-)
Thank you.
Pete
> Well, Semen Cursty, why don't you spend a few hours on your big, bad
> Harley; ride over to my house; and threaten to put "a boot up [my]
> arse"? We'll see how it turns out for you. Just give me a call, and
> I'll be waiting ... alone and unarmed.
> You're taller, younger, and weigh about the same. What have you to
> fear?
HUH ?!?!?!
That will teach me to ignore MFW in the weekends!
I am away for a day or so, and now this?
GET HIM CURT, GET HIM !!!
----
Pete
Pete
>>You're taller, younger, and weigh about the same. What have you to
>>fear?
> Reminds me of the kind of things a person would say if jacked up on
> test enan and d-bol.
> I'm not suggesting that you are jacked up on such things.
Perhaps JMW was right after all.
ML would know such a thing. And you said "test enan."
Hmmm.
----
Pete
BTW, with the ones you mentioned i always feel kinda relaxed and
comfortable.
I never get aggressive while on steroids. Very weird...
Pete
>> Reminds me of the kind of things a person would say if jacked up on
>> test enan and d-bol.
>> I'm not suggesting that you are jacked up on such things.
> Nope. At least not until I go on vacation where such things are legal.
Mexico?
And both are availeble there.
----
Pete
Curt James
[...]
> I have no reason to modify images of Britney Spears's breasts.
It's a start. At least you're *talking about* female breasts. Not that
talking about male breasts is a bad thing, of course. To wit:
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a36/imnoone/MFW/wb.jpg
Now THOSE are some bigguns!
> She doesn't screech at me on Usenet,
And if by screech you mean post intelligent commentary wrt your
seemingly non-stop idiocy and acts of pomposity and, yes, apparently
unconscious incompetence then, oh, yes, I'm guilty as charged!
> nor does she post daily frothing-at-the-mouth rants about me.
Awww, poor baby.
> Wanna guess who does?
WHO?
Regardless, I've got my own ax of sorts to grind. To wit, part two:
Last I looked, you have *several* web pages set up devoted to me,
including but probably not limited to
http://www.rustyiron.net/trollist.htm
http://www.rustyiron.net/curtpics.htm
http://www.rustyiron.net/curt_wts.htm
http://www.rustyiron.net/curtinfl.jpg
http://www.rustyiron.net/curt_rab.htm
Plus you've directed MFW patrons to the following link on at least one
occasion:
http://tinyurl.com/z2d2y
And there's also
http://www.rustyiron.net/trollz.htm and the corresponding posts/threads
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.fitness.weights/msg/8fc6f6b8db7a673a
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.fitness.weights/msg/ffae5749d27416d4
Funny, the only post that second thread received was from... TBR! Yeah,
you spent an awful amount of time on that guy, too, and the end result
was that you simply proved yourself a troll (according to your own
definition) enabler. Again, what's your definition of a troll?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.fitness.weights/msg/0fb4e8673b4bc4ee
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.fitness.weights/msg/8bb4fd7b08ad73d8
And that's not counting your other Curt-obsessed posts including the
blah blah blah one. See:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v108/curt_james/MFW/animcurt.gif
Or have you deleted those pages?
Meanwhile, I've got *one* photobucket pic of you that shows one of our
similarities:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v108/curt_james/MFW/sab.jpg
sab is my acronym for separated at birth.
So, yeah, J Dubya, if you ever want to complain again about people who
screech at you on Usenet or who post daily frothing-at-the-mouth rants
about you then perhaps it'd behooooooove you to look at your own
behavior first, hmm?
Hth.
--
Curt
Pete
>>You're taller, younger, and weigh about the same. What have you to
>>fear?
> Yet another unprovoked offer of violence Mr Williams; have you been
> overdoing it on the Steroids again?
I can handle 2-2.5 grams of steroids withOUT getting aggressive. No really,
i can.
There are only 3 notorious for increasing aggression:
Halotestin, Parabolan (trenbolone) and mibelorone (Cheque Drops)
I never used those, BTW...
Test and A-50 perhaps. Maybe. Depends who take it, i guess.
Nandrolone can actually LOWER aggression.
----
Pete
Curt James
I won't. At least not gobs of slack, that's for sure.
Zero tolerance regarding bully behavior is promoted at our school. And
even without such a "rule" it speaks to two wrongs don't make a right.
> Thank you.
Well, aren't you just so incredibly gracious, Johnny? Did you gain tons
of therapeutic value and relaxation by telling our mutual friend that
you could beat him senseless?
Otoh, instigation is a form of bullying as well and for that fact I'll
also cut you the tiniest slice of slack for now. You deserve your fair
share of dirt, however, imo.
--
Curt
OmManiPadmeOmelet
Pete
>> Yet another unprovoked offer of violence Mr Williams;
>> have you been overdoing it on the Steroids again?
> Oh, come now, Charles! Unprovoked? I'm not sure about that.
> Still, some provoke much easier than others. ;o)
Where is this fight gonna take place?
Can we place bets?
Please, please, please, please please say YES!
I am feeling like 16 again! THIS is great!
Pete
Curt James
> "JMW" schreef:
>
> > Well, Semen Cursty,
I'm still scratching my head over "Cursty" though. That was a typo,
right, Johnny?
> > why don't you spend a few hours on your big, bad Harley; ride over
> > to my house; and threaten to put "a boot up [my] arse"? We'll see
> > how it turns out for you. Just give me a call, and I'll be waiting ...
> > alone and unarmed.
>
> > You're taller, younger, and weigh about the same. What have you to
> > fear?
>
> HUH ?!?!?!
Williams said he could beat someone else senseless. I called him for
poor behavior. His response? Why to invite me to his state so that I
could threaten HIM, of course. Odd, but not unexpected. He's the
stereotypical braggart who picks a fight and then stands there saying,
"No, I want YOU to hit me FIRST!" Then has the nerve to call others
pussy. Amusing. No, strike that, pathetic.
> That will teach me to ignore MFW in the weekends!
>
> I am away for a day or so, and now this?
>
> GET HIM CURT, GET HIM !!!
heh :oD
I'm still waiting on an email with his address and phone number. He
invited me to visit *and* to call. I requested both address and phone
contact but have received neither as of this post.
> Pete
An attorney and a school teacher, though? How's that for an unexpected
fight? Perhaps we could do a charity tournament. For that I'd kick his
ass or arse or whatever nick there might be for the human gluteus so
far into space they'd have to monitor him via the Hubble.
BRING IT ON!!!!!!!
--
Curt
Curt James
[...]
> Best of luck in turning your students into decent human beings. Most
> parents don't have the time to do that anymore. You have a pretty big
> responsibility.
[...]
Teaching is a big responsibility, but fortunately, the parents at our
school are the exception to what you describe. I just recently had a
mother and grandmother approach me in the building to ask for artwork
they could display at the mother's place of work.
I monitor kindergarten and 1st grade classrooms on certain mornings and
parents typically bring their children to class, help them hang up
their coats and bookbags, greet the other students, say I love you to
their kids and then head off to work or home.
You're right to say that John has a big responsibility, but his work is
no excuse for unacceptable behavior, imo. Criminals are often only
criminals because of a law that shouldn't be in place. And lawyers are
all too often guilty of worse offenses than many an average Joe, imo.
Dollars over the downtrodden.
> Peace, Om
--
Curt
OmManiPadmeOmelet
"Curt James" <curt...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Thank you.
>
> Well, aren't you just so incredibly gracious, Johnny? Did you gain tons
> of therapeutic value and relaxation by telling our mutual friend that
> you could beat him senseless?
>
> Otoh, instigation is a form of bullying as well and for that fact I'll
> also cut you the tiniest slice of slack for now. You deserve your fair
> share of dirt, however, imo.
>
> --
> Curt
Curt Sir, before you go any further, please read "The Truth about
Personal Protection" by Masaad Ayoob.
And "The Ayoob Files".
That second book took me 2 months to get shipped. It's that popular.
It will most likely give you some good insights and understanding.
I know one thing for sure...
The police are not paid anywhere near enough, and there are far too few
of them. :-(
And I could never be paid enough to be a Prosecutor. The real money is
in defense law. That means that it takes a certain amount of dedication.
If you want to attack JMW as a person, ok. (even tho' I won't agree as
I've gotten to know him privately). But without proper education, you
really don't have the understanding required to attempt to attack his
choice of career.
Please keep in mind that I have just as much regard for teachers, so I'm
not attacking you either, just asking you for a bit more compassion.
I would have loved to be a teacher at one point in the life sciences,
but I chose health care for financial security reasons. I grew up dirt
poor.
That's my one and only lousy excuse. ;-)
Curt James
> "Curt James" schreef:
>
> >> Yet another unprovoked offer of violence Mr Williams;
> >> have you been overdoing it on the Steroids again?
>
> > Oh, come now, Charles! Unprovoked? I'm not sure about that.
>
> > Still, some provoke much easier than others. ;o)
>
> Where is this fight gonna take place?
Apparently it's going to be in Ohio. Why? Because Johnny wants to see
my big bad Harley. Personally, I think he has a thing for my bike. Many
here have already witnessed his interest in my nipples. Weird, but,
hey, I recognize what a sexxxy beeeeast I am, so will forgive him his
unrequited affection.
> Can we place bets?
Not bets, but donations to an undetermined charity may be in order!
> Please, please, please, please please say YES!
YES!
> I am feeling like 16 again! THIS is great!
Say, you're not instigating, are you? ;o)
> Pete
--
Curt
OmManiPadmeOmelet
"Curt James" <curt...@gmail.com> wrote:
While I totally understand your attitude, I've had to deal with local
LEO's in my professional life. They tend to cut me a little slack when
they know that I am also a public servant.
Dealing with the criminal element tends to skew attitudes. It's sad but
true.
All I can do when I have to deal with them is to try to be as nice as
possible to remind them that not all humans are that way. :-)
If I ever get stopped again on a traffic violation it's going to be
compounded as I'll have a loaded gun in the car. <G>
It's been 4 years since I've had a speeding ticket.
It's not easy to deal with police....... and it used to piss me off. But
now that I understand WHY cops tend to be such ass holes, I can deal
with them better and it disarms them somewhat.
HTH?
As for teachers, like our LEO's, they are not paid anywhere near what
they are worth!
This countries priorities are truly screwed up!!!!!!!
Pete
>>Hey! I at least warn people that I probably don't know that the heck
>>I am talking about.
> I really don't see you doing that. I've read enough of your stuff to
> know that you are interested in learning and can actually discuss the
> subject matter. There's a difference.
Jason is humble.
He is allready way past the station of a novice lifter, and so is his
knowledge.
> Not long ago, someone (Will Brink maybe?) posted a link to a study
> that established something which is actually rather intuitive: the
> truly clueless don't even know that they're clueless. I'm starting to
> see a lot of that.
I see that a lot in my gym. A LOT!
We have a former WABBA Mr. Universe for about 6 months around, who is a PT.
First day i saw him, he said something about the way i did my tricep
exercises.
Then i replied that he is not the only one who can use PhotoShop on his
website.
And that i really dont need training advice...
Despite the fact that he won a few contests, he talks outta of his ass.
----
Pete
JMW
Further east.
JMW
I'm sure I could set something up. I could even have it videotaped
with sufficient warning. Of course, if it is to be spontaneous, the
assailant will need to make the proper threat to "put a boot up [my]
arse," along with actions indicating an intent to carry out the
threat. Legal issues, y'know.
If by mutual arrangement, I would be comfortable with either PKA or
UFC rules. Maybe Larry Hodges would like to be in on this?
Curt James
> "Curt James" wrote:
> > OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
> > [...]
> >
> > > Best of luck in turning your students into decent human beings. Most
> > > parents don't have the time to do that anymore. You have a pretty big
> > > responsibility.
> > [...]
> >
> > Teaching is a big responsibility, but fortunately, the parents at our
> > school are the exception to what you describe. I just recently had a
> > mother and grandmother approach me in the building to ask for artwork
> > they could display at the mother's place of work.
> >
> > I monitor kindergarten and 1st grade classrooms on certain mornings and
> > parents typically bring their children to class, help them hang up
> > their coats and bookbags, greet the other students, say I love you to
> > their kids and then head off to work or home.
> >
> > is no excuse for unacceptable behavior, imo. Criminals are often only
> > criminals because of a law that shouldn't be in place.
Cops only enforce existing law, so my beef - if any - is not with our
law enforcement, but rather with our laws. The so-called war on drugs
is a farce. From AAS to THC, something should be done. And that
something, by my way of thinking, should NOT include building more
prisons but instead legalization and renewed efforts toward education
and rehabilitation.
> > And lawyers are all too often guilty of worse offenses than many an
> > average Joe, imo. Dollars over the downtrodden.
> >
> > > Peace, Om
>
> While I totally understand your attitude, I've had to deal with local
> LEO's in my professional life. They tend to cut me a little slack when
> they know that I am also a public servant.
>
> Dealing with the criminal element tends to skew attitudes. It's sad but
> true.
>
> All I can do when I have to deal with them is to try to be as nice as
> possible to remind them that not all humans are that way. :-)
> If I ever get stopped again on a traffic violation it's going to be
> compounded as I'll have a loaded gun in the car. <G>
>
> It's been 4 years since I've had a speeding ticket.
>
> It's not easy to deal with police....... and it used to piss me off. But
> now that I understand WHY cops tend to be such ass holes, I can deal
> with them better and it disarms them somewhat.
>
> HTH?
No help necessary, Om. I'm no LEO hater.
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.fitness.weights/msg/87bcecd692fb7a9f
I've had my fair share of breaks.
> As for teachers, like our LEO's, they are not paid anywhere near what
> they are worth!
And I'm also *not* complaining about salary. I have the ENTIRE SUMMER
OFF! I also receive pay raises for each additional ten credits earned
at university - which the school district pays for, btw. As teachers,
we also receive ample opportunities to participate in after school
programs which pay above what we earn per our contracted teaching
salary. Then there's summer school pay if you choose to participate
that way. My medical, dental, and vision benefits are hard to beat,
too. No complaints here.
> This countries priorities are truly screwed up!!!!!!!
All you have to do is turn on the news. Bush closed talks with North
Korea and look where that got us. Bush sought WMD in Iraq and our
country is suffering from that decision as well. What's next?
> Peace, Om
--
Curt
Pete
>>> Nope. At least not until I go on vacation where such things are legal.
>>Mexico?
>>And both are availeble there.
> Further east.
Well, Guatamala and Honduras is South-East. Cuba is East.
Europe perhaps?
----
Pete
JMW
But you really need to understand what frustrates them most. It's not
so much the people who fight them or run from them. It's the mouthy
assholes who feel compelled to assuage their feelings of inferiority
by beating their chests and insulting the cops, just because the cops
represent authority. Naturally, the cops must treat them with some
modicum of politeness, and not use force unless met with force.
*That* is what frustrates them most.
Do you see a parallel between those people and certain rebel-wanabee
school teachers?
JMW
Charles
<jmwil...@enforcergraphics.f2s.com> wrote:
>"Pete" <phou...@wanadoo.nl> wrote:
>
>>"Curt James" <curt...@gmail.com> schreef:
>>
>>>> Yet another unprovoked offer of violence Mr Williams;
>>>> have you been overdoing it on the Steroids again?
>>
>>> Oh, come now, Charles! Unprovoked? I'm not sure about that.
>>
>>> Still, some provoke much easier than others. ;o)
>>
>>Where is this fight gonna take place?
>>
>>Can we place bets?
>>
>>Please, please, please, please please say YES!
>>
>>I am feeling like 16 again! THIS is great!
>
>I'm sure I could set something up. I could even have it videotaped
>with sufficient warning. Of course, if it is to be spontaneous, the
>assailant will need to make the proper threat to "put a boot up [my]
>arse," along with actions indicating an intent to carry out the
>threat. Legal issues, y'know.
Inviting someone to enter into a public brawl, including inviting him
to threaten you with a provocative act in order to start the violence,
would not be any sort of defence in subsequent legal proceedings.
This would be further aggravated by your prior intention to video the
affray, for the purpose of displaying the video as visual proof of
your violent criminal intent and actions, to participants in a Usenet
newsgroup for the purpose of your own personal vanity.
Of course you would be fucked either way, should some bright spark
take you up on your offer and kick the shit out of you!! ;o)
We all know it's hot air Williams, but I just thought you should know
the legal repercussions of your on-line bullshit.
>
>If by mutual arrangement, I would be comfortable with either PKA or
>UFC rules. Maybe Larry Hodges would like to be in on this?
Why would you want to pick on Larry, he's always been rather
supportive of you John Williams?
OmManiPadmeOmelet
JMW <jmwil...@enforcergraphics.f2s.com> wrote:
> >While I totally understand your attitude, I've had to deal with local
> >LEO's in my professional life. They tend to cut me a little slack when
> >they know that I am also a public servant.
> >
> >Dealing with the criminal element tends to skew attitudes. It's sad but
> >true.
> >
> >All I can do when I have to deal with them is to try to be as nice as
> >possible to remind them that not all humans are that way. :-)
> >If I ever get stopped again on a traffic violation it's going to be
> >compounded as I'll have a loaded gun in the car. <G>
> >
> >It's been 4 years since I've had a speeding ticket.
> >
> >It's not easy to deal with police....... and it used to piss me off. But
> >now that I understand WHY cops tend to be such ass holes, I can deal
> >with them better and it disarms them somewhat.
>
> But you really need to understand what frustrates them most. It's not
> so much the people who fight them or run from them. It's the mouthy
> assholes who feel compelled to assuage their feelings of inferiority
> by beating their chests and insulting the cops, just because the cops
> represent authority.
Ah yes. The authority rebels. ;-)
Those that lack personal self-esteem...
> Naturally, the cops must treat them with some
> modicum of politeness, and not use force unless met with force.
> *That* is what frustrates them most.
Indeed... It's similar in health care actually.
Most patients are in denial when they are betrayed by their own bodies.
And they want to take it out on YOU! The Doctors are the authority
figures so they take it out on nurses and other health care personnel.
The "underlings".
>
> Do you see a parallel between those people and certain rebel-wanabee
> school teachers?
See above.
The perceived "underlings" are the ones that tend to get the most flak!
geek_girl
> geek_girl wrote:
> > mulbish wrote:
> > > ya know I usually do not engage in such drivel...but...I post a
> > > complete list of the principles followed by a few questions and you
> > > don't think I get it. Is your brain half full or half empty. Are you
> > > just critical by nature. The list by itself should be evident that I
> > > do in fact understand and I just have a few questions. I'll stop now
> > > but do me one favor and do not reply to any of my post in the future.
> > > THANK YOU.
> > >
> >
> > The question about how to use the calculator clearly indicated that you
> > didn't really understand HST. If you truly understood the principles
> > rather than just being able to parrot them, the calculator would make
> > perfect sense to you.
> >
> > Sorry, you don't get to control who does or does not respond to your
> > posts. In any case, you appear to be upset and I don't understand why.
> > I gave you some advice that was intended to be helpful. If you choose
> > not to see it that way, for whatever bizarre reasons you may have,
> > that's your problem. If you're so thin-skinned that you can't handle it
> > when people respond to what you wrote rather than what you wish you'd
> > written, then mfw is not the place for you.
>
> First Geek_Girl, I apologize, sincerely. I was a bit thin skinned and
> you did offer a simplified HST exactly, as I requested. And for that,
> I thank you.
Yer welcome.
>
> I just took offense when you said I didn't understand after I
> "parroted" (it's not like I "snipped" it, I read it through and stated
> the points as I understood them to be) the program. Even though I read
> it through and felt I understood it well enough and only needed a
> little guidance on a few things. And I don't think not understanding
> the calculator necessarily equates to not understanding HST.
>
> Could you please tell me what the "Inc" at the top of the columns
> stands for? I assume the "RM" is for reps, even though I haven't seen
> this used before. And the "1" through "6" is the three works out per
> week over a two week period.
"Inc" is "increment", how much weight you add at each workout, and "RM"
is "rep max", the maximum you can lift for the specific exercise for
the given number of reps. The RM is what you work up to during each
two-week period. The increment is up to you, but it should make some
sense when you look at the numbers. For example, if your 15RM for a
given exercise is 100 lbs, it would be silly to use an increment of 20
lbs - put that into the calculator, and you can see that for your first
workout, your weight for that exercise would be zero, so that won't
even work. An increment of 5 or 10 lbs would make more sense in that
case.
>
> I may end up using your simplified option as it seems easier to keep up
> with. But since I've put some effort into understanding the program I
> would like to figure the calculator out.
Just enter the exercise name, enter the increment, enter the rep maxes,
and click the "calculate" button. If the numbers look weird, try
changing the increment until they make sense. When you're happy with
it, print it and take it to the gym. Or just throw it away and do what
I told you to do a few posts back. :)
Charles
<omp_o...@gmail.com> wrote:
>In article <3ugnj2tm1tdtqoo0b...@4ax.com>,
> JMW <jmwil...@enforcergraphics.f2s.com> wrote:
>
>> OmManiPadmeOmelet <omp_o...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > "Curt James" <curt...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Does Williams comprehend the concept of professionalism? Williams
>> >> succumbs to temptation time and time again, imo. He brags, he name
>> >> calls, he self-promotes, he condescends, and now he threatens. At least
>> >> from my perspective. Ymmv.
>> >
>> >During my studies on gun handling, (most of the good gun manuals are
>> >written by retired policed officers including Massad Ayoob and Gabriel
>> >Suarez), I've gained a greater understanding of the criminal mind, and a
>> >greater understanding of what the legal system deals with when it comes
>> >to real criminals.
>> >
>> >They regard us law abiding citizens as legal prey...... and LEO's as
>> >their sworn enemies.
>> >
>> >I have gained a greater regard and respect for what he has to deal with
>> >in his daily career.
>> >
>> >This is therapy and relaxation so I'll cut him some slack. ;-)
>>
Do stop pissing up his kilt Om!
How can you possibly condone his endless "trolling", bullying and
stalking, by describing it as therapy from his 'exacting' job? He's
nothing but a fucking idiot.
If he is so busy and traumatised by being a humble assistant county
prosecutor in rural Hicksville, how the fuck does he find the time to
be spending so much time on-line stalking people, and carrying out all
the other activities at which he claims to be such an expert?
If it wasn't for John Williams there wouldn't be any "trolling" at
MFW, as I pointed out not so long ago when we had a rather peaceful
break from him and his idiotic behaviour.
Your best bet, if you don't want to risk upsetting him, is to avoid
all involvement in the constant strife he provokes, and not criticise
those people he is perpetually irritating and provoking, when they
retaliate to his cost.
You've got some good friends here Om mate, so don't go alienating them
by taking sides. You make a cheerful and valuable contribution to the
Group, but taking up the cudgels on behalf of John Williams is
completely un-necessary and would be a sad error.
He gets himself into the shit so let him dig himself out!
You know it makes sense mate! ;o)
Curt James
> "Curt James" wrote:
>
> > > Thank you.
> >
> > Well, aren't you just so incredibly gracious, Johnny? Did you gain tons
> > of therapeutic value and relaxation by telling our mutual friend that
> > you could beat him senseless?
> >
> > Otoh, instigation is a form of bullying as well and for that fact I'll
> > also cut you the tiniest slice of slack for now. You deserve your fair
> > share of dirt, however, imo.
>
> Personal Protection" by Masaad Ayoob.
>
> And "The Ayoob Files".
>
> That second book took me 2 months to get shipped. It's that popular.
>
> It will most likely give you some good insights and understanding.
>
> I know one thing for sure...
>
> The police are not paid anywhere near enough, and there are far too few
> of them. :-(
I trust that's true, however I hope I haven't given you a false
impression that I'm anti-law enforcement. I just don't like a few of
the laws.
> And I could never be paid enough to be a Prosecutor.
Likewise prosecutors. They don't make the laws, right? They simply
prosecute those who break the laws.
> The real money is in defense law. That means that it takes a
> certain amount of dedication.
Well, I'm certain there could be other variables also. Aren't star
players recruited for defense law firms or is that just something that
happens on TV?
> If you want to attack JMW as a person, ok.
SWWEEEEET!!!! ALL SYSTEMS GO!!!! WE HAVE ~*LIFT OFF!!!!!!*~ ATTACK
PROCEDURES IMPLEMENTED!!!!!! GO, GO,
GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> (even tho' I won't agree as I've gotten to know him privately).
And I'll bet that's just peachy keen, however JMW has shown himself to
be something of an idiot, imo, by virtue of his little troll list and
his contradictions exhibited - conduit, enabler, and selective killfile
usage to name a few. I have no problem, however, if you have a differen
opinion of the man. It's relative to the treatment received as well as
your level of maturity, forgiveness, acceptance, and other Om-like
personality traits.
> But without proper education, you really don't have the
> understanding required to attempt to attack his choice
> of career.
I don't remember attacks against his career as much as questions of his
behavior as it relates to him as an individual and as his actions
relate to what I'd describe as unlawyerlike nonsense. The invitation to
Ohio where he'll be waiting alone and unarmed as well as his comment to
another MFW patron that he could beat him senseless. You like him, hey,
more power to you. I realize you have a different relationship. Me? I
think he's something very much akin to a POS for reasons given.
> Please keep in mind that I have just as much regard
> for teachers, so I'm not attacking you either, just asking
> you for a bit more compassion.
I do not feel attacked by you at all, Om. I appreciate your efforts
while not planning on responding too positively. I also respect your
intent without agreeing with you, unfortunately.
> I would have loved to be a teacher at one point in the life sciences,
> but I chose health care for financial security reasons. I grew up dirt
> poor.
Hey, you're not alone. ;o)
> That's my one and only lousy excuse. ;-)
Not a bad "excuse" at all, Om. I've had plenty of 20K a year jobs and
so my 40K a year as an educator is a blessing. Plus it's more fun than
fun!
> Peace, Om
Peace is indeed the key, however it's something of a war with Williams.
He's deserving of compassion? I don't think so.
Perhaps you missed the following, but I don't believe you did. I
applaud your attempts at being peacemaker, however choose not to follow
suit. You've said it's my job to make my students better people and I
agree with that opinion, however even I know limits and have told my
bullying students something quite like, "If you kick a dog, you can
expect to get bit."
The following is a rerun, but it fairly sums up my ax-to-grind factor
so far as JMW is concerned.
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.fitness.weights/msg/a5c43d0881c98cf2?hl=en&
JMW wrote:
> Curt James wrote:
> > JMW wrote:
> > > [...]
> > >
> > > There's a point to be made here, <snip>.
And I recognized your point immediately, in my opinion. Your point was
to be inflammatory, John. As always, you're candycoating it or you're
wrapping it in a blanket of "for the greater good of the newsgroup."
What you're accomplishing, however, is no more than a self-serving
attempt at controlling another poster's behavior or presence in what
you seem to consider your domain.
You're a wannabe bully and behave as such.
> > > If you don't understand the concept,
Dismissive, rude, condescending, and truly something of a colossal
jerk. I should change that characterization, however, as you're much
more a pitiful and sad annoyance.
> > > ask yourself this: why are sex offenders required
> > > to register?
Did someone say you're a lawyer?
I guess you're accustom to being assigned parallels that hold no truth.
Sad fact of life, isn't it?
> > How would you apply that statement to me, John?
>
> I'm glad you asked, Curt.
Of course you are. Misguided by obviously glad.
> Convicted sex offenders tend to wash away stigma by
> moving away from their old surroundings.
Immediately, your parallel is shown to be false as I've maintained my
presence in RAB for more than eight years. You may want to check your
facts there. Let me help:
http://www.geocities.com/curt_james/RABstats.html
Those stats go back to December 2004, however Google archives would
offer posts going back years before that. Adversarial is the climate in
general in RAB and I have not shied away from that, however it's no
surprise that you would fail to quote any positive statements you could
find in RAB's archives wrt yours truly. No surprise at all, John.
Likewise, I've participated in RMH for an equal number of years. But
you know about RMH because your attempt at inflammatory cross-posting
to THAT newsgroup was met by an icy wall of silence, wasn't it?
The dynamics are notably different in each of these newsgroups, however
the fact remains that I have not moved away from "old surroundings" at
all. Oh, perhaps you're applying that with MFW as new surroundings.
Does this mean that I cannot add to my circle of newsgroups? ACS is
another ng where I have infrequently visited. Does that merit such a
parallel comment? No, not in my opinion and, I suspect, not in the
opinion of anyone with the common sense to see beyond their own nose.
Yes, it would be easy to interpret my reaction toward you as egging you
on, however I prefer to look at it as simply not buying what you're
selling. The "I'm The Monitor Here." John Williams bonus package.
Sorry, no sale.
> Unfortunately, they retain their personality characteristics.
And, sadly, so have you. Isn't there an operation for what you've got,
John?
> Requiring registration in the new town informs the
> residents of the risk.
Again, your attempted parallel is ridiculous. The risk the MFW
residents run is of being bored to death by our constant bickering. Who
will take action on that risk first? Well?
> A similar phenomenon occurs on Usenet. Sometimes,
> a person becomes a real arsehole in a certain newsgroup.
AIN'T THAT THA TRUTH????!!!! :o)
> After a while, none of the regulars in that newsgroup can
> stand that person, and he is consistently insulted or ignored
> by nearly everyone but the occasional newbie who wanders in.
Again, adversarial is the nature of RAB as your little speech does not
apply to me at all wrt RMH. So with RAB in mind, I'll try to explain a
few things to you, John.
I can see why some would be annoyed by my presence in RAB. I just won't
go away. GRRRR! RAB did have a lot of patrons and many of those faces
are now gone. Those few that remain of that old group typically whine
and cry about me. And that's ALL that they do. Weird. Strike any
nerves, John?
Well, there is one who appears now and again and makes no comment re
yours truly. The smartest one of that particular bunch some would say.
Nevertheless, I've encouraged my vocal detractors to "rebuild" RAB as
they see fit, but apparently they'd much rather spend their energies on
making rude comments about me. Going so far as to following me around.
HA! Productive? I'd say no. (And, yes, I recognize the pot-kettle-black
insanity of even replying to your posts, John.)
You may get the illusion that everyone hates me on RAB. There is the
thread after all. :o) However this is not the case. I write a lot. I'm
in the minority on that count so far as RAB is concerned. Review the
stats at the link above if you doubt me, John. Some others have the
inability to ignore the fact that I write a lot. Hey, now that should
ring a bell or two with you, Johnny! And so they piss and moan and,
yes, act like what you might describe as an "arsehole."
Regardless, I'll tell you what I've told them: Please don't blame your
disappointment, seeming misery and dissatisfaction on me.
John, speak with your friends, interact with anyone you please, enjoy
your artwork. I have. True. Despite what you may believe you're
achieving by using my image as a canvas of sorts, you've provided me
with more than one laugh. Often, however, that laugh is at the thought
of your more than likely wrinkled up face as you work on the creation.
heh
With RAB, as with you, I almost have to believe that new blood has some
of the old guard concerned. It's not about me. It's about change. And
that, John Williams, is something no one can stop.
Hth.
> So he moves to another newsgroup where he is an unknown.
HA! I'm no gun person, at least not since I earned that marksman ribbon
in the Navy, but shooting holes in your argument is, I suspect, like
shooting fish in a barrel.
The Queen of Cans and Jars ring any additional bells, John? Hmmm.
"So he moves to another newsgroup where he is an unknown." Is that what
you wrote?
I don't think so. And, I was visiting only to ask who won the Olympia,
Cutler or Coleman. I'm sure you remember that thread. You, like mica,
opened your yaps in a - what I'd call - confrontational or at least
less than inviting manner.
If anyone is to blame for my presence here, well, firstly it's me. As I
choose to stay. I like it here, but I will not shy from attempted abuse
and - more importantly - I love weights and improving my body, my
strength, my health. Also, I have enjoyed the virtual camaraderie I've
found in this newsgroup. You don't like that? Sucks to be you. Use the
kill file you encouraged everyone else to use on the likes of TBR.
You encouraged TBR's presence as much as anything going on his TBR's
brain, I strongly suspect. And, yes, I will say that your sniping has
encouraged me to respond in kind on more than one occasion. Plus,
again, I will thank you for your negative attitude's impact on my
weight training. Physically, I was much weaker when I made that post in
2004 than I am now. This is in part because of the motivation I gained
from choosing to listen to you whine about trolls and blablablah, on
and on. I thought, how can I participate here without actually lifting?
And so I rededicated my lifting efforts partially in response to your
whiiiiiining annoyance.
We're a matched set in that regard though, aren't we? You match me
drivel for drivel. Or you try.
You're leaps and bounds ahead of me on the jpeg/gif front as well as
web pages devoted to me, however. What's that say about you? Do seeming
STALKERS have to register anywhere?
> Unfortunately, those people retain their personality
> characteristics, and gradually, the same thing happens
> all over again.
Hmmm. Let me ask you... any parallels to the "me and you" interaction
and any other interactions you've shared in this newsgroup? Huh, John?
Does "gradually, the same thing happens all over again" apply to you
with anyone else?
A little help here! Never mind. I already know the answer.
Colossal jerk? I was wrong.
Pitiful. Sad. Bitter. :o( Unfortunately, those words more accurately
describe you, John Williams.
> Often, the person will defend himself by exclaiming, "I am a courteous,
> friendly, and knowledgeable person, and there would have been no
> problem if the regulars in this newsgroup had not mistreated me!" It
> is then that the person's earlier history in another newsgroup can be
> revealing as to his real personalities traits.
Have I made such statements? I think I've commented on the
pot-kettle-blackness of it all more than once. You love Google archives
as much as I do, apparently, so why don't you take a peek there? And I
have "mistreated" you as much as you've attempted to mistreat me, imo.
Yes, I'd say I've at the very least given as good as I've got. (What
was that I said about tooting your own horn? Guilty!)
> You see, history has a habit of repeating itself.
True. And yet some people apparently never learn, do they?
> > Regardless, and as I said previously, you're a pawn here.
> > And you're apparently too stupid to realize it.
>
> Quite the opposite, dear Curt. I have been waiting quite a while
> for the RAB gang to confirm what I have been saying all along.
So you say. But I believe you lie.
You attempted the same thing with the RMH patrons, but that didn't work
out as planned, did it? So, like an unsuccessful door-to-door salesman,
you packed up your junk and peddled it elsewhere. You found your
customer, I'll give you that. But that certainly doesn't prove your
parallel at all. In fact, it makes it all the more ridiculous.
I believe you're acting like a fool, John. And I wouldn't be surprised
if that opinion is shared by others. Might want to check on that, too.
Or not. Hey, it's your reputation.
And for any who may've skipped to the bottom and prefer humor to
bickering:
http://www.cartoonstock.com/directory/d/door-to-door_salesmen.asp
/rerun
Compassion for John Williams? I don't see it happening. Although I have
stated I would appreciate he remove his web pages which he has
currently "devoted to" yours truly. That'd be a start, but although you
may see him in a certain light (as is your right) I suspect he's
anything but deserving of your kind thoughts. Of course I could be
wrong. I have been many times in the past and expect I will be an equal
or greater number of times in the future.
--
Curt