Goblin and Roy Schestowitz Caught Lying Again...........
Gary Stewart
Techloons Episode 55.
The sound is completely garbled and in spots almost unintelligible.
Original post is at the bottom.
Now, as predicted Goblin appears and of course blames it on Skype or
the ISP on either side.
And like "magic" within a few minutes, Roy Schestowitz appears with
a "Microsoft Skype Sucks" message, which can be viewed here:
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/14ea013024b328e2?hl=en
So, let's examine this a little and use some common sense:
1. No mention of this problem was made anywhere until *I* brought it
up by posting in COLA.
2. Goobler knows full well I listen to these things just looking for
amateur production so it's common sense that he would at least
mention the errors in the show notes etc.
Nothing, although I expect him to edit the documents and call
attention to it so be ready for that.
3. Both claim it's a Skype issue, but Goobler also adds ISP issue
into it.
Don't they know?
4. If indeed it was a Skype issue, how were they able to
hear/understand each other real time and WHY WAS NO MENTION OF IT
MADE IN THE EPISODE?
That's the killer....And that is where their lies get exposed.
Get ready for the attacks on *my* skills to begin.
BTW you can also listen at 33:00 or so to hear how bad this really
sounds.
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http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/e1fabc9e4841ec2a?hl=en
"Do you amateurs even listen to your own droppings?
This tecbytes episode 55 takes the cake for abysmal audio quality.
Example: At 15:20 or so when Goblin starts whining, he sounds all
garbled and it's impossible to understand what he is saying.
The sound then recovers for a little while but it happens again
later in the episode.
Both the High Quality mp3 and OGG file suffer from this.
This is a perfect example of how poor the Linux operating system and
associated programs are for recording audio tracks.
Put these bargain basement Linux / FOSS programs in the hands of
amateurs like Goblin and his boss Roy Schestowitz and it really
turns to crap real fast!
Great job advocating Linux boys!
Keep up the good work and Protools has nothing to worry about!
You can listen here, jump to 00:15:20:00...(h:m:s:f:)About 15:50 in
Media Player.
http://techrights.org/2011/07/15/techbytes-episode-55/
Oh and should the slimy morons attempt to edit it, I have all the
files stored locally. "
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7/16/2011 12:04:26 PM
Gary Stewart
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http://limuxwatch.blogspot.com/
Come laugh at Linux "advocacy" with us!
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Desktop Linux: The Dream Is Dead
"By the time Microsoft released the Windows 7 beta
in January 2009, Linux had clearly lost its chance at desktop
glory."
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Desktop Linux on Life Support:
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When I use the term Linux I am speaking of desktop Linux unless
otherwise stated.
7
> A
It seems you have forgotten you are just another
appil funded troll we hear about in the news these days.
You do realize you became a luzer as soon as you signed
yourself for employment as an anti-Linux troll?
By any chance are you an employee of ntrepid corporation?
http://www.ntrepidcorp.com/
or perhaps an employee of Burson-Marsteller?
http://www.burson-marsteller.com/
The line managers who contracted you were sniggering to the bone
when they when they realized what kind of idiot you were
and how useful it would be to them.
They never had so much fun since hosting a tampon sharing party.
And tell me again:
Why do dishonest Amrikaaan companies like Appil and Micoshaft pay Amrikaans
to troll and post ad-hominem personal attacks on the internet?
Has anyone in these companies got a degree in honesty?
If so prove it.
If not, are you expecting to ride on the back of good faith of the
international community to not criticise amrikaas dumbest criminals posting
trolls and ad-hominen personal attacks funded by amrikkkaan companies
like micoshaft and appil? Are they above the law? I don't think so. Its
time for prosecutors to move in and arrest a few of the criminals funding
asstroturfers hiding behind dishonest corporations like appil and micoshaft
who sponsor ad hominem personal attacks and abuse in the internet
in blantant disregard for law.
A few wikileaks to open up scrutiny of the funding routes and who's who in
the chain of command could be a starting point.
Stories like this
http://www.11alive.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=173964
set a precedent which means every asstroturfer is due for a minimum
$400,000 fine.
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It was notable gaffs by the goofy doofy sock that first gave it away.
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Gary Stewart
> Gary Stewart wrote:
>
>> A
>
>
> It seems you have forgotten you are just another
> appil funded troll we hear about in the news these days.
>
> You do realize you became a luzer as soon as you signed
> yourself for employment as an anti-Linux troll?
A poster who calls himself "The President of COLA"
in comp.os.linux.advocacy has been claiming that he has won
the European Inventor Of The Year award.
His real name is Joseph Michael and he goes by the moniker "7".
Here is a link to him making the claim:
This claim is fully supported without challenge by the group's
Linux supporters including but not limited to:
Chris Ahlstrom
Gregory Shearman
Roy Schestowitz.
chrisv
Peter Kohlmann
Goblin
and several others.
I am suggesting that each person who reads this message contact the
EPO which is the organization that presents the award and ask them
about Mr. Joseph Michael's claims.
Here is their website.
http://www.epo.org/news-issues/european-inventor.html
http://www.epo.org/service-support/contact-us.html
Surely the President of comp.os.linux.advocacy should
have no problem with people verifying the claims he has
been making for years.
How about it Chrissy Ahlstrom, will you be the first to
step up and show that you aren't the spineless git you
seem to be?
Or how about you Goblin?
You try to portray yourself as a genteel person.
Let's see what kind of integrity you really have.
--
7/16/2011 12:24:39 PM
7
> A
It seems you have forgotten you are just another
appil funded troll we hear about in the news these days.
You do realize you became a luzer as soon as you signed
yourself for employment as an anti-Linux troll?
Goblin
> Now, as predicted Goblin appears and of course blames it on Skype or
> the ISP on either side.
Well if people listen they can decide for themselves. I'm no sound
expert, but to me it sounds like issues either with the Skype service or
connection issues with the ISP.
You say the sound is the worse ever so why then is this ep any worse? we
are using exactly the same software, the only element of randomness
would be that introduced by ISP issues....
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Gary Stewart
> On 16/07/11 17:18, Gary Stewart wrote:
>> Now, as predicted Goblin appears and of course blames it on Skype or
>> the ISP on either side.
>
> Well if people listen they can decide for themselves. I'm no sound
> expert, but to me it sounds like issues either with the Skype service or
> connection issues with the ISP.
>
> You say the sound is the worse ever so why then is this ep any worse? we
> are using exactly the same software, the only element of randomness
> would be that introduced by ISP issues....
Stop dancing Goblin....
It's not about me.
At points you can barely be understood.
This is ot just your usual bad audio, this is horrible....
The poor audio was NOT related to Skype or your ISP because if it
was, you BOTH would have heard it when you were recording and you
would have mentioned it because unless you were sitting next to each
other, you wouldn't have understood each other.
It's that bad....
You didn't.....
You talked for an hour, made ZERO MENTION OF IT, which means Skype
or whatever VOIP you were using, was working fine.....
The poor audio is due to your inept post processing and POOR linux
tools used AFTER the conversations were already recorded.....
I suspect your encoding or some foolish addition of a cheap FOSS
post processor screwed things up and you never bothered to check it
after it was encoded.
You and your crap Linux tools screwed up.
No matter how you try and spin it, that's the way it is...
The more you lie, the deeper the hole you dig for yourself.
Your attempt at damage control with Roy posting that "Skype Sucks"
message is laughable...
I'll bet the PM were flying back and forth on that one :)
Are you reading this SNIT?
I hope so because these are the kind of people you will be dealing
with should you appear on their show.
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7/16/2011 1:59:07 PM
Goblin
I am sure Roy said about the connection issue during the show. Check
for yourself here:
But regardless, about half an hour later we talked in irc about it.
Check the logs....I know you won't. Please feel free to continue your
lies.... Im not falling into your time wasting trap of repeated lies.
Snit
AM:
I am not really interested in who said what and when... but I will say the
audio quality of the shows I have listened to could use even some post
production (and even just automated) cleanup. I am surprised you do not do
that - would make for a more professional sound (or at least less amateur).
I would think you would want your show to sound as good as you reasonably
could have it sound, given your (I assume) fairly low end equipment to show
off what can be done with Linux.
To be clear: no insult is meant by "fairly low end"... I consider my stock
iMac, where I do my screen casting and the like, to be in that category as
well. Higher end equipment (and training!) would be a benefit to me as
well.
--
[INSERT .SIG HERE]
7
> It's not about me.
Snit
> Gary Stewart wrote:
>
>
>> It's not about me.
>
>
> It seems you have forgotten you are just another
> appil funded troll we hear about in the news these days.
Your "tell": when you know you are beaten you start getting so mad you
cannot type words correctly and you call people names.
In other words: you just admitted you know you are wrong.
--
[INSERT .SIG HERE]
Gary Stewart
> I am not really interested in who said what and when... but I will say the
> audio quality of the shows I have listened to could use even some post
> production (and even just automated) cleanup. I am surprised you do not do
> that - would make for a more professional sound (or at least less amateur).
> I would think you would want your show to sound as good as you reasonably
> could have it sound, given your (I assume) fairly low end equipment to show
> off what can be done with Linux.
Listen to this snippet and let me know what you think.
This is just a quick sample of what I am talking about.
If this sounded this bad live, they never could have gone on with
the show.
Oh yea, they had their usual popping and cutting in and out noises
due to Goblin slobbering popping the mic, but nothing like this.
They surely would have blamed Skype on the show.
They didn't.
http://www.4shared.com/audio/YczNF5Tn/TLoons_BAD_Audio.html
--
7/16/2011 3:20:11 PM
Snit
7/16/11 12:23 PM:
> On Sat, 16 Jul 2011 11:28:47 -0700, Snit wrote:
>
>
>> I am not really interested in who said what and when... but I will say the
>> audio quality of the shows I have listened to could use even some post
>> production (and even just automated) cleanup. I am surprised you do not do
>> that - would make for a more professional sound (or at least less amateur).
>> I would think you would want your show to sound as good as you reasonably
>> could have it sound, given your (I assume) fairly low end equipment to show
>> off what can be done with Linux.
>
> Listen to this snippet and let me know what you think.
> This is just a quick sample of what I am talking about.
>
> If this sounded this bad live, they never could have gone on with
> the show.
> Oh yea, they had their usual popping and cutting in and out noises
> due to Goblin slobbering popping the mic, but nothing like this.
>
> They surely would have blamed Skype on the show.
> They didn't.
>
> http://www.4shared.com/audio/YczNF5Tn/TLoons_BAD_Audio.html
>
>
>
Why is there no sound at all for the last several minutes?
--
[INSERT .SIG HERE]
Goblin
> They surely would have blamed Skype on the show.
> They didn't.
No because as I said repeatedly it was either a Skype or an ISP issue.
As Ive said before Gary you liar, I love Skype. I think its a great
service, I have no intention of shifting from it or encouraging my
relatives to change.
Its you who suggest otherwise by trying to claim I would "blame" skype.
I won't as I don't know what caused the issue.
I use Skype alot and disagree with Roy's opinion of the service getting
worse after the buying by Microsoft. I can't prove what I believe and
neither can Roy. So whats your problem Flatfish/Gary? What possible
pleasure do you get for continuing on with this silliness?
I expect "rope a dope" will follow. Your usual tactic when backed into
a corner.
Snit
PM:
> On 16/07/11 20:23, Gary Stewart wrote:
>> They surely would have blamed Skype on the show.
>> They didn't.
>
> No because as I said repeatedly it was either a Skype or an ISP issue.
Did it sound this way live?
> As Ive said before Gary you liar, I love Skype. I think its a great
> service, I have no intention of shifting from it or encouraging my
> relatives to change.
>
> Its you who suggest otherwise by trying to claim I would "blame" skype.
> I won't as I don't know what caused the issue.
>
> I use Skype alot and disagree with Roy's opinion of the service getting
> worse after the buying by Microsoft. I can't prove what I believe and
> neither can Roy. So whats your problem Flatfish/Gary? What possible
> pleasure do you get for continuing on with this silliness?
>
> I expect "rope a dope" will follow. Your usual tactic when backed into
> a corner.
>
--
[INSERT .SIG HERE]
Hadron
> On 16/07/11 20:23, Gary Stewart wrote:
>> They surely would have blamed Skype on the show.
>> They didn't.
>
> No because as I said repeatedly it was either a Skype or an ISP issue.
>
> As Ive said before Gary you liar, I love Skype. I think its a great service, I
> have no intention of shifting from it or encouraging my relatives to change.
So how come the quality is so piss poor? God knows Flattie has given you
enough advice that even you should be able to sort it out. No wonder no
one listens. I suspect rather a lot are annoyed with your & Roy's claims
about MS being responsible for the Spanair disaster.
Goblin
> Did it sound this way live?
Not at my end. When we cut to music we stop recording and it was
mentioned then. My end I could hear Roy perfectly.
With all due respect though, this is just another time wasting point
made by Gary. I know as far as you are concerned you are merely asking
a question but for Gary who spends time listening making comments on, it
rather makes a mockery of his claims.
My advice was (and is still) if he doesn't like it, don't listen. He
does though and continues on.
Goblin
> So how come the quality is so piss poor?
Look back over the posts for the difficulties in the last ep, and as I
said many weeks ago when exactly the same question was asked, I don't
encode it.
Now is your que to say "Goblin blames someone else" - Thats not
correct, if I wanted to make it better then I would try myself.
If you don't like that, don't listen. Why whine about it?
Snit
PM:
> On 16/07/11 20:51, Snit wrote:
>> Did it sound this way live?
>
> Not at my end. When we cut to music we stop recording and it was
> mentioned then. My end I could hear Roy perfectly.
But the audio, I am guessing, is from his end?
> With all due respect though, this is just another time wasting point
> made by Gary. I know as far as you are concerned you are merely asking
> a question but for Gary who spends time listening making comments on, it
> rather makes a mockery of his claims.
>
> My advice was (and is still) if he doesn't like it, don't listen. He
> does though and continues on.
--
[INSERT .SIG HERE]
Goblin
> But the audio, I am guessing, is from his end?
If you are talking of the issue, I don't know.
If you are talking about the recording, thats done Roys end.
Like I say, my end he sounded fine.
Gary Stewart
It's where the markers were when I snipped it.
The beginning is what you are interested in.
Where the audio is.
You can always listen to the entire show if you like.
--
7/16/2011 4:27:24 PM
Gary Stewart
> Goblin stated in post IWlUp.48101$fl.2...@newsfe23.ams2 on 7/16/11 12:48
> PM:
>
>> On 16/07/11 20:23, Gary Stewart wrote:
>>> They surely would have blamed Skype on the show.
>>> They didn't.
>>
>> No because as I said repeatedly it was either a Skype or an ISP issue.
>
> Did it sound this way live?
BINGO.........
And if you read Roy's IRC, yes he mentions audio problems and he
also mentions "fixing them, filtering them, and how crisp it sounds
even after compression"...
What he is referring to is the usual beard noises etc.
He mentions this in the
There is NO WAY IN HELL he could POSSIBLY fix the mess that you hear
in this file and that is because it was NOT there live...Oh there
are noises, pops, clicks etc, but NOTHING like missing phrases,
garbled sound and so forth. He mentions audio noises, but they
easily understand each other.
Listen to the broadcast, can YOU understand everything?
I can't, even in my recording studio.
Again, not a single mention of this.
Even with all my professional tools I couldn't fix that short of
overdubbing the bad sections.
Point is, the sound was REALLY ruined during his post processing....
Again, not a mention of Skype problems or ISP problems during the
live show.
Rather odd don't you think?
This is beating a dead horse but like you say, they just don't care
about quality. They use crappy Linux programs and this is what they
end up with.
--
7/16/2011 4:28:43 PM
Goblin
Gary, why are you banging on about this. First you imply I blame skype,
now you are back with the Flatfish "Sound Engineer" tact.
Ive answered the question many times, if you don't like it dont listen.
Ive also posted my Skype response on the shownotes just for you. I
suppose you will be useful for seeding the link:
I
Goblin
Gary you say many things. You imply I blame Skype. I dont. Here are
the shownotes, I say so there:
Gary Stewart
> On 16/07/11 20:56, Hadron wrote:
>> So how come the quality is so piss poor?
> You are not very quick or smart are you?
>
> Look back over the posts for the difficulties in the last ep, and as I
> said many weeks ago when exactly the same question was asked, I don't
> encode it.
>
No you don't do the encoding or the "filtering" (whatever Roy means
by that?) but it's a team effort so you both share in the ups and
the downs. And the downs have been plenty....
That's your boss, Roy Schestowitz's function. To encode that is and
that is where the problem lies.
I'll leave it alone now Goblin because you are moving on to your own
show and I do suspect you will do a much better job of it.
Why not have Snit on as your first guest?
I'll reset the counter, the past is the past, you're starting new so
I'll critique your production based solely on your show alone.
Hopefully you don't make Linux look and sound substandard.
--
7/16/2011 4:34:50 PM
Goblin
> On Sat, 16 Jul 2011 21:00:21 +0100, Goblin wrote:
>
>> On 16/07/11 20:56, Hadron wrote:
>>> So how come the quality is so piss poor?
>> You are not very quick or smart are you?
>>
>> Look back over the posts for the difficulties in the last ep, and as I
>> said many weeks ago when exactly the same question was asked, I don't
>> encode it.
>>
> No you don't do the encoding or the "filtering" (whatever Roy means
> by that?) but it's a team effort so you both share in the ups and
> the downs. And the downs have been plenty....
> That's your boss, Roy Schestowitz's function. To encode that is and
> that is where the problem lies.
>
> I'll leave it alone now Goblin because you are moving on to your own
> show and I do suspect you will do a much better job of it.
>
> Why not have Snit on as your first guest?
>
> I'll reset the counter, the past is the past, you're starting new so
> I'll critique your production based solely on your show alone.
>
> Hopefully you don't make Linux look and sound substandard.
>
>
>
and then go back to your flatfish tactic of audio quality.
Ok.
Don't like it, dont listen. I certainly wont listen to a trickster or
deciever or liar like you.
Read the show notes if you feel the urge to go back to your Skype lies:
Clogwog
<email_at_www_at_en...@enemygadgets.com> wrote on behalf of
Half Wits from Google Department of Marketing:
news:mViUp.32254$Zn.2...@newsfe30.ams2...
> Gary Stewart wrote:
>
>> A
>
<bitchslap>
It seems you have forgotten you are just another Google funded troll
Retard "7" in COLA: Google: "a Linux company"
Gary Stewart
I'm not implying anything Goblin....
I'm using your own words against you to expose you as a liar....
Right here:
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/c23e2b2d3f287d5e?hl=en
"Well if people listen they can decide for themselves. I'm no sound
expert, but to me it sounds like issues either with the Skype
service or connection issues with the ISP."
Start slithering again Goblin.
You really are one slimy beast.
--
7/16/2011 4:44:40 PM
Goblin
> Start slithering again Goblin.
> You really are one slimy beast.
Not slithering away thats your remit.
I'm saying Im not interested in your audio advice, Im saying your latest
skype "angle" against the show is lies. I am saying read the show notes:
You are a liar, a trickster, a deceiver.
Clogwog
news:BSjUp.48094$fl.1...@newsfe23.ams2...
> On 16/07/11 17:18, Gary Stewart wrote:
>> Now, as predicted Goblin appears and of course blames it on Skype or
>> the ISP on either side.
>
> Well if people listen they can decide for themselves.
Face it, Goobler!
*Nobody* listens to your booooooooring Anti Corporate troll whines!
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Jack Schofield made mincemeat of Roy Schestowitz:
http://www.zdnet.co.uk/blogs/the-open-source-revolution-10014902/articles-of-roy-schestowitz-10022241/
Goblin
> Face it, Goobler!
> *Nobody* listens to your booooooooring Anti Corporate troll whine
Well flatfish/Gary does.
Listen for yourself:
Gary Stewart
> On 16/07/11 21:39, Gary Stewart wrote:
>> On Sat, 16 Jul 2011 21:00:21 +0100, Goblin wrote:
>>
>>> On 16/07/11 20:56, Hadron wrote:
>>>> So how come the quality is so piss poor?
>>> You are not very quick or smart are you?
>>>
>>> Look back over the posts for the difficulties in the last ep, and as I
>>> said many weeks ago when exactly the same question was asked, I don't
>>> encode it.
>>>
>> No you don't do the encoding or the "filtering" (whatever Roy means
>> by that?) but it's a team effort so you both share in the ups and
>> the downs. And the downs have been plenty....
>> That's your boss, Roy Schestowitz's function. To encode that is and
>> that is where the problem lies.
>>
>> I'll leave it alone now Goblin because you are moving on to your own
>> show and I do suspect you will do a much better job of it.
>>
>> Why not have Snit on as your first guest?
>>
>> I'll reset the counter, the past is the past, you're starting new so
>> I'll critique your production based solely on your show alone.
>>
>> Hopefully you don't make Linux look and sound substandard.
>>
>>
>>
> Gary/Flatfish, so you go from claiming I blame Skype, get proved wrong
> and then go back to your flatfish tactic of audio quality.
You seem to have problems processing more than one thought at a
time....
Here you go liar:
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/c23e2b2d3f287d5e?hl=en
"Well if people listen they can decide for themselves. I'm no sound
expert, but to me it sounds like issues either with the Skype
service or
connection issues with the ISP. "
See how easy that is Goblin?
Your own words used against you......
And it has nothing to do with *my* engineering skills.
I've forgotten more on the topic in the past week than you have ever
known.
It must be pretty embarrassing for you to see kids on Youtube
posting excellent sounding works and you and a PHD, Linux "experts",
can't manage a decent sounding audio cast.
That's gotta suck for you...
Hint: Try using some decent tools instead of that bogus Open Source
crap you are trying to shoehorn into places where it obviously
doesn't belong.
On top of that you can listen to the advice you have been given for
improving the sound.
You won't though, because Like typical Linux user, you aim low.
It's the Linux way!
You've really succeeded this time Goblin.
> Ok.
>
> Don't like it, dont listen. I certainly wont listen to a trickster or
> deciever or liar like you.
I'm not the liar and I'm not going to play your snip and lie tactic
anymore.
Not to mention feeding your need to SPAM your site all over the
place.
Show notes?
Sure....Edited of course to fit your lies.
They are not necessary though.
Here you are blaming Skype/ISP, in your usual sugary fashion of
course because you are lukewarm and won't take a stand one way or
the other.
> Read the show notes if you feel the urge to go back to your Skype lies:
No Goblin, you have been proved a liar
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/c23e2b2d3f287d5e?hl=en
"Well if people listen they can decide for themselves. I'm no sound
expert, but to me it sounds like issues either with the Skype
service or
connection issues with the ISP. "
No show notes needed for anyone to look at.
Those are your own words.
ROPE-A-DOPED again.....
I'll go back to ignoring you again because I tire of your
supercilious, child like attitude and inability to tell the truth
and just admit you and your boss screwed up.
Had you done that, told the truth instead of this whole organized
posting party with you and Roy, Skype sucks etc there would have
been nothing to say.
But you didn't.
You lied, tried to cover it up and got caught once again.
Try acting like a man instead of a spineless gorm.
So back in the bin with you because I won't feed your self serving
SPAM machine by replying.
Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!
P.S. Snit should have enough to Rope-A-Dope you real good this time.
> Read the show notes if you feel the urge to go back to your Skype lies:
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7/16/2011 4:47:01 PM
Goblin
You are the liar, I use the word "or" (which you even quote) as the show
notes say below nothing changed with that episode. So its either an ISP
or Skype issue for that ep
Chris Ahlstrom
> On 16/07/11 22:03, Gary Stewart wrote:
>>
>> Here you go liar:
>>
>> http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/c23e2b2d3f287d5e?hl=en
>>
>> "Well if people listen they can decide for themselves. I'm no sound
>> expert, but to me it sounds like issues either with the Skype
>> service or
== one silly little word
>> connection issues with the ISP. "
>>
>> <rest of deranged cackling snipped>
>
> You are the liar, I use the word "or" (which you even quote) as the show
> notes say below nothing changed with that episode. So its either an ISP
> or Skype issue for that ep
For want of a single word, a troll went off like a street schizo ranting
about the bees and spiders inside his head.
--
Girls are better looking in snowstorms.
-- Archie Goodwin
Hadron
> On 16/07/11 20:56, Hadron wrote:
>> So how come the quality is so piss poor?
> You are not very quick or smart are you?
>
The difficulties are all of your own making. Kids make better
shows. You're an idiot and too much of a big head to take the advice
offered you. Just like Roy in that respect.
Thats why the quality is so piss poor.
Snit
PM:
> On 16/07/11 21:01, Snit wrote:
>> But the audio, I am guessing, is from his end?
>
> If you are talking of the issue, I don't know.
>
> If you are talking about the recording, thats done Roys end.
I meant the recording. And you answered. :)
> Like I say, my end he sounded fine.
If I were the troll he claims I would have fun with that comment. :)
Seriously, while I find it odd that the two of you do not do any cleanup of
the sound, this is really not a big issue to me.
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[INSERT .SIG HERE]
Snit
7/16/11 1:46 PM:
>>>
>>
>> Gary, why are you banging on about this. First you imply I blame skype,
>> now you are back with the Flatfish "Sound Engineer" tact.
>
> I'm not implying anything Goblin....
> I'm using your own words against you to expose you as a liar....
>
> Right here:
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/c23e2b2d3f287d5e?hl=
> en
>
> "Well if people listen they can decide for themselves. I'm no sound
> expert, but to me it sounds like issues either with the Skype
> service or connection issues with the ISP."
>
> Start slithering again Goblin.
> You really are one slimy beast.
I think you are being a bit nit picky...
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[INSERT .SIG HERE]
Snit
7/16/11 1:34 PM:
> On Sat, 16 Jul 2011 12:51:47 -0700, Snit wrote:
>
>> Goblin stated in post IWlUp.48101$fl.2...@newsfe23.ams2 on 7/16/11 12:48
>> PM:
>>
>>> On 16/07/11 20:23, Gary Stewart wrote:
>>>> They surely would have blamed Skype on the show.
>>>> They didn't.
>>>
>>> No because as I said repeatedly it was either a Skype or an ISP issue.
>>
>> Did it sound this way live?
>
> BINGO.........
>
> And if you read Roy's IRC, yes he mentions audio problems and he
> also mentions "fixing them, filtering them, and how crisp it sounds
> even after compression"...
Does he really? Doing a quick search I did not find that:
<http://goo.gl/CEt8z>
Which, of course, does not prove he did not say that.
> What he is referring to is the usual beard noises etc.
>
> He mentions this in the
>
> There is NO WAY IN HELL he could POSSIBLY fix the mess that you hear
> in this file and that is because it was NOT there live...Oh there
> are noises, pops, clicks etc, but NOTHING like missing phrases,
> garbled sound and so forth. He mentions audio noises, but they
> easily understand each other.
> Listen to the broadcast, can YOU understand everything?
> I can't, even in my recording studio.
Wait: it is Roy's voice that is garbled... and it is Roy who does the
recording. Does he, maybe, use a different machine that taps into the same
conversation? Seems an odd solution - but it would explain the problem.
> Again, not a single mention of this.
>
> Even with all my professional tools I couldn't fix that short of
> overdubbing the bad sections.
>
> Point is, the sound was REALLY ruined during his post processing....
I think you are making an assumption - I am not sure they do any post
processing other than the snip it into pieces.
> Again, not a mention of Skype problems or ISP problems during the
> live show.
> Rather odd don't you think?
Not enough info for me to jump to any conclusions.
> This is beating a dead horse but like you say, they just don't care
> about quality. They use crappy Linux programs and this is what they
> end up with.
I will say they show little concern for the quality of the audio - and I
think that makes Linux look bad. I do not get that.
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[INSERT .SIG HERE]
Tattoo Vampire
> Yourblahblahblahblahblahblahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
slow night again, eh, Snit? Pay some attention to your family.
--
Are you a Klingon, or is that a turtle on your head?
[tv]
High Plains Thumper
> Snit wrote:
>
>> Yourblahblahblahblahblahblahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
>
> slow night again, eh, Snit? Pay some attention to your family.
Help his wife? Nah, I see he is still begging for attention. Usenet is his
only life, it seems. ;)
37- Glenn Hall (COLA): "That person is like a constantly running toilet
that won't stop. Does he ever stop talking about UI consistency? No matter
what anyone replies, he adds a few more branches to the spider web as it
grows and grows. It's a waste of time." 31 Oct 2010
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/c8dd8a244fe1eb2c
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HPT
Gary Stewart
I don't think so.....
He directly says Skyp or ISP and I clearly reply Skype/ISP.
Doesn't matter if he claims it's Skype, ISP or both the point is the
really awful sound was AFTER the fact not DURING the recording.
That's the point.....
IOW Skype or ISP had nothing to do with it.
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7/16/2011 10:37:11 PM
Gary Stewart
> Gary Stewart stated in post 1x9ohctdx5uwe.n...@40tude.net on
> 7/16/11 1:34 PM:
>
>> On Sat, 16 Jul 2011 12:51:47 -0700, Snit wrote:
>>
>>> Goblin stated in post IWlUp.48101$fl.2...@newsfe23.ams2 on 7/16/11 12:48
>>> PM:
>>>
>>>> On 16/07/11 20:23, Gary Stewart wrote:
>>>>> They surely would have blamed Skype on the show.
>>>>> They didn't.
>>>>
>>>> No because as I said repeatedly it was either a Skype or an ISP issue.
>>>
>>> Did it sound this way live?
>>
>> BINGO.........
>>
>> And if you read Roy's IRC, yes he mentions audio problems and he
>> also mentions "fixing them, filtering them, and how crisp it sounds
>> even after compression"...
>
> Does he really? Doing a quick search I did not find that:
> <http://goo.gl/CEt8z>
>
> Which, of course, does not prove he did not say that.
Right here Snit:
http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/irc-log-techrights-15072011.html
schestowitz _Goblin: it doesn't sound as bad as I feared... the
recording (so far) Jul 15 22:25
schestowitz I can clean up some noise Jul 15 22:25
schestowitz _Goblin: we'll improve over time Jul 15 22:28
schestowitz the sounds is not as bad on your side when I apply a
filter Jul 15 22:29
(THAT IS WHERE HE HOSES THE THING!)
schestowitz I'm surprised by how crips the show and also the sons
sound when it's compressed at under 10 megs Jul 15 22:31
>> What he is referring to is the usual beard noises etc.
>>
>> He mentions this in the
>>
>> There is NO WAY IN HELL he could POSSIBLY fix the mess that you hear
>> in this file and that is because it was NOT there live...Oh there
>> are noises, pops, clicks etc, but NOTHING like missing phrases,
>> garbled sound and so forth. He mentions audio noises, but they
>> easily understand each other.
>> Listen to the broadcast, can YOU understand everything?
>> I can't, even in my recording studio.
>
> Wait: it is Roy's voice that is garbled... and it is Roy who does the
> recording. Does he, maybe, use a different machine that taps into the same
> conversation? Seems an odd solution - but it would explain the problem.
It's NOT Roy's voice that is garbled.
You seem to have NOT listened to the recording.
Roy's voice always sounds like it's under water, that's normal.
>> Again, not a single mention of this.
>>
>> Even with all my professional tools I couldn't fix that short of
>> overdubbing the bad sections.
>>
>> Point is, the sound was REALLY ruined during his post processing....
>
> I think you are making an assumption - I am not sure they do any post
> processing other than the snip it into pieces.
No I'm not Snit.
I don't think you listened to the recording, this is really obvious,
or are mixing up Roy and Goblin's voice because if you did you would
hear Goblin distorting terribly to the point one can't even
understand what he is saying.
>> Again, not a mention of Skype problems or ISP problems during the
>> live show.
>> Rather odd don't you think?
>
> Not enough info for me to jump to any conclusions.
Based upon your wrong data of course not.
Listen again.
> I will say they show little concern for the quality of the audio - and I
> think that makes Linux look bad. I do not get that.
And the fact they try and make excuses for their poor production and
tools outside the recording process, IOW the ISP/Skype etc rather
than the Linux tools.
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7/16/2011 10:40:01 PM