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Foster
Apr 28, 2012, 10:40:09 AM4/28/12
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A close friend of mine has been talking about Linux, Android and how
the world will someday be dominated by Linux. The odd part is he
uses Windows and has an iPhone.
So finally, a couple of weeks ago, he decides to download Ubuntu
Linux and see if he can switch over from Windows 7 to Linux.
I've spoken to him a few times since then. Here are some comments.
First day:
Linux is great. I can't believe they give all this away for free. I
should have dumped Windows years ago.
Second day:
I'm having some problems with my printer. The scanner nor fax
doesn't work and I can't seem to use the highest resolution.
Also the duplex tray isn't listed in the printer options.
Third day:
Somehow I managed to lose my entire iPod library. The files are
still there but the iPod doesn't seem to see them. Linux seems
slower than Windows.
Fourth day:
How do I get the extra buttons and tilt wheel on my Logitech gaming
mouse G5 to work as assignable functions?
Fifth day: Still can't get the printer working right. Fortunately it
prints but does little else. Some guy on a blog says I bought the
wrong model.
Sixth ----> fourteenth day More problems, lots of them
Fifteenth day: I finally unloaded this Linux crap. I think I figured
out why it's free.
Back to Windows.
Another Linux hater loose on the net and this guy is a real
chatterbox. He's all over the bogs, talking about his horrible
experience with Linux.
Hahah!
Linux, if you think you hate it now....Wait until you actually try
it!
the world will someday be dominated by Linux. The odd part is he
uses Windows and has an iPhone.
So finally, a couple of weeks ago, he decides to download Ubuntu
Linux and see if he can switch over from Windows 7 to Linux.
I've spoken to him a few times since then. Here are some comments.
First day:
Linux is great. I can't believe they give all this away for free. I
should have dumped Windows years ago.
Second day:
I'm having some problems with my printer. The scanner nor fax
doesn't work and I can't seem to use the highest resolution.
Also the duplex tray isn't listed in the printer options.
Third day:
Somehow I managed to lose my entire iPod library. The files are
still there but the iPod doesn't seem to see them. Linux seems
slower than Windows.
Fourth day:
How do I get the extra buttons and tilt wheel on my Logitech gaming
mouse G5 to work as assignable functions?
Fifth day: Still can't get the printer working right. Fortunately it
prints but does little else. Some guy on a blog says I bought the
wrong model.
Sixth ----> fourteenth day More problems, lots of them
Fifteenth day: I finally unloaded this Linux crap. I think I figured
out why it's free.
Back to Windows.
Another Linux hater loose on the net and this guy is a real
chatterbox. He's all over the bogs, talking about his horrible
experience with Linux.
Hahah!
Linux, if you think you hate it now....Wait until you actually try
it!
Mark S Bilk
Apr 28, 2012, 11:38:31 AM4/28/12
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On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 10:40:09 -0400, Foster wrote:
> A close friend of mine has been talking about Linux.
Then he tried it. And Linux blew up his computer, kicked
his dog, stole his pickup truck, and ran off with his wife!
Linux also made him repost this old lying Flatfish article,
and Microsoft will pay him for doing it.
...With _your_ money, if you buy anything from Microsoft.
> So finally, a couple of weeks ago, he decides to download Ubuntu
> Linux and see if he can switch over from Windows 7 to Linux.
> ...
> A close friend of mine has been talking about Linux.
Then he tried it. And Linux blew up his computer, kicked
his dog, stole his pickup truck, and ran off with his wife!
Linux also made him repost this old lying Flatfish article,
and Microsoft will pay him for doing it.
...With _your_ money, if you buy anything from Microsoft.
> So finally, a couple of weeks ago, he decides to download Ubuntu
> Linux and see if he can switch over from Windows 7 to Linux.
Hadron
Apr 28, 2012, 11:41:34 AM4/28/12
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Mark S Bilk <ma...@cosmicpenguin.com> writes:
> On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 10:40:09 -0400, Foster wrote:
>
>> A close friend of mine has been talking about Linux.
>
> Then he tried it. And Linux blew up his computer, kicked
> his dog, stole his pickup truck, and ran off with his wife!
>
> Linux also made him repost this old lying Flatfish article,
> and Microsoft will pay him for doing it.
>
> ...With _your_ money, if you buy anything from Microsoft.
No, with MS money if they sold something to him,/her.
> On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 10:40:09 -0400, Foster wrote:
>
>> A close friend of mine has been talking about Linux.
>
> Then he tried it. And Linux blew up his computer, kicked
> his dog, stole his pickup truck, and ran off with his wife!
>
> Linux also made him repost this old lying Flatfish article,
> and Microsoft will pay him for doing it.
>
> ...With _your_ money, if you buy anything from Microsoft.
Are you really as retarded as you appear in your posts?
Hint : you dont *have* to buy anything from MS. And many, including me,
choose not to.
You're a fuckwit of the highest order.
Foster
Apr 28, 2012, 11:41:42 AM4/28/12
to
On 28 Apr 2012 15:38:31 GMT, Mark S Bilk wrote:
> On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 10:40:09 -0400, Foster wrote:
>
>> A close friend of mine has been talking about Linux.
>
> Then he tried it. And Linux blew up his computer, kicked
> his dog, stole his pickup truck, and ran off with his wife!
I see you have experience with Linux.
> On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 10:40:09 -0400, Foster wrote:
>
>> A close friend of mine has been talking about Linux.
>
> Then he tried it. And Linux blew up his computer, kicked
> his dog, stole his pickup truck, and ran off with his wife!
> Linux also made him repost this old lying Flatfish article,
> and Microsoft will pay him for doing it.
Guess not.
> ...With _your_ money, if you buy anything from Microsoft.
2007 or something like that.
7
Apr 28, 2012, 11:46:50 AM4/28/12
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Foster wrote:
Fake anti-Linux stories planted by Burson-Marstelar employees:
> A close friend
Yada yada yada...
What is this idiot Burson-Marsteler employee doing
in comp.os.linux.advocacy and why does employee Foster
who used to post as "Bobby" many anti-Arab posts in between
trolling comp.os.linux.advocacy, need to post 24/7?
Is this the same cesspit of a company Burson-Marstelar that politicians and
diplomats think they can work for by drinking from the same
cesspit pool as "Bobby" or "Foster" drinks from?
Trolling is an Industry in USA
------------------------------
Most US politicians and businesses
are so corrupt and reliant to the point of additiction
on trolls and trolling and so the fund it all illegally
through charities because
funding through charities is untraceable
through loopholes in US law.
The US politicians, embassy staff and anyone else falling for it like
Spanish government should know that the US trolls
ordering embassies to this kind of work
have no mandate for these kinds of activities.
Just rich companies that have bank rolled teams of asstroturfers
to create fake support and certainly no mandate.
There is NO MANDATE when fake asstroturfers are driving
the agenda.
The situation is so bad, it has spread into the military.
No one now knows who drives what agenda because
there is no traceability.
The fscking military, politicians, enviro nuts, music maffia,
using asttroturfing technology need the riot act read to them.
The situation is so incomprehensible that
the US has been declared falsely that it is the most charitable nation in
the world when at the same time 3 million US families
are living in shelter, and most of that charity money is fake
money being diverted from corporations into the coffers of asstroturfing
and PR companies.
Most of the money funneled through
charities never make it to charitable causes in the USA.
It is stolen by policians and presssure groups to cover
up their fake funding routes for asstroturfing.
They are used to it so we got to get over it?
No thanks!!!!
Not a single politician, embassy staff or military has a
mandate for one single political agenda because no one
knows who is funding who and who's agenda is real
and whose agenda is fake. Every signature collected
is one more fake signature for a mandate written out by
asstroturfers.
Asstroturfing through charities undermines society,
and all the nations dealing with US
and it must stop because no one in US has any legitimate
mandates for any of this activity any more.
If they have it, then should display their mandate
with pride, and show where the support had come from
and if any of it is through charities, then the
whole mandate is faked because charity status is being
abused to hide funding routes for corporate asstroturfing.
Asstroturfer offerings
----------------------
I've just read the contents of the fbo.gov solicitation RTB220610
The US government wants asstroturfers and with it sophisticated
asstroturfing technology to drown out democratic free speech,
and then hide from those whom it seeks to victimize.
It was point no.3 that caught my eye:
0003- Static IP Address Management
What that means is the same as what I've been saying for a while about
doofi, flatcake and clog are true.
They are not individuals but a whole asstroturfing team
behind each sock puppet.
There isn't enough memory between the sock operators to know
or remember what had been said earlier so you know the
conversations are being typed out by multiple individuals
impersonating each other.
It was notable gaffs by the goofy doofy sock that first gave it away.
The asstrotufing teams had already gone into government and offered them
consulting services about what technology and asstroturfing
practices were out there for fbo.gov to decide what they will
purchase in solicitation RTB220610.
:-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D
https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunity&mode=form&id=d88e9d660336be91552fe8c1a51bacb2&tab=core&_cview=1
Solicitation Number: RTB220610
Notice Type: Sources Sought
Synopsis: Added: 2010-06-22 13:42:52Jun 22, 2010 1:42 pm
Modified: 2010-06-22 14:07:11Jun 22, 2010 2:07 pmTrack Changes
0001- Online Persona Management Service.
50 User Licenses, 10 Personas per user. Software will
allow 10 personas per user, replete with background,
history, supporting details, and cyber presences
that are technically, culturally and geographacilly
consistent. Individual applications will enable an
operator to exercise a number of different online
persons from the same workstation and without fear
of being discovered by sophisticated adversaries.
Personas must be able to appear to originate in
nearly any part of the world and can interact through
conventional online services and social media platforms.
The service includes a user friendly application
environment to maximize the user's situational
awareness by displaying real-time local information.
0002- Secure Virtual Private Network (VPN).
1 each VPN provides the ability for users to
daily and automatically obtain
randomly selected IP addresses through
which they can access the internet. The daily
rotation of the user s IP address prevents compromise
during observation of likely or targeted web sites
or services, while hiding the existence of the
operation. In addition, may provide traffic mixing,
blending the user s traffic with traffic from multitudes
of users from outside the organization. This traffic
blending provides excellent cover and powerful deniability.
Anonymizer Enterprise Chameleon or equal
0003- Static IP Address Management.
:-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D
50 each Licence protects the identity of government
agencies and enterprise organizations. Enables organizations
to manage their persistent online personas by assigning
static IP addresses to each persona. Individuals
can perform static impersonations, which allow
them to look like the same person over time. Also allows
organizations that frequent same site/service often to
easily switch IP addresses to look like ordinary
users as opposed to one organization.
Anonymizer IP Mapper License or equal
:-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D
0004- Virtual Private Servers,
CONUS. 1 each Provides CONUS or OCONUS points of
presence locations that are setup for each customer
based on the geographic area of operations the
customer is operating within and which allow a
customer?s online persona(s) to appear to originate
from. Ability to provide virtual private servers that
are procured using commercial hosting centers around
the world and which are established anonymously. Once
procured, the geosite is incorporated into the network
and integrated within the customers environment and
ready for use by the customer. Unless specifically
designated as shared, locations are dedicated for use
by each customer and never shared among other customers.
Anonymizer Annual Dedicated CONUS Light Geosite or equal
0005- Virtual Private Servers, OCONUS.
8 Each Provides CONUS or OCONUS points of presence
locations that are setup for each customer based on
the geographic area of operations the customer is
operating within and which allow a customer?s
online persona(s) to appear toWas it related to drug abuse?
originate from. Ability to provide virtual private
servers that are procured using commercial hosting
centers around the world and which are established
anonymously. Once procured, the geosite is incorporated
into the network and integrated within the customers
environment and ready for use by the customer. Unless
specifically designated as shared, locations are dedicated
for use by each customer and never shared among other
customers. Anonymizer Annual Dedicated OCONUS Light ell troll, i
Geosite or equal
0006- Remote Access Secure Virtual Private Network.
1 each Secure Operating Environment provides a reliable
and protected computing environment from which to stage
and conduct operations. Every session uses a clean
Virtual Machine (VM) image. The solution is accessed
through sets of Virtual Private Network (VPN) devices
located at each Customer facility. The fully-managed
VDI (Virtual Desktop Infrastructure) is an environment
that allows users remote access from their desktop into
a VM. Upon session termination, the VM is deleted and
any virus, worm, or malicious software that the user
inadvertently downloaded is destroyed. Anonymizer
Virtual Desktop Infrastructure (VDI) Solution or equal.
Contracting Office Address:
2606 Brown Pelican Ave.
MacDill AFB, Florida 33621-5000
United States
Lets start this troll interrogation again:
Place of Performance:
Performance will be at MacDIll AFB, Kabul, Afghanistan and Baghdad, Iraq.
MacDill AFB , Florida 33679
United States
Primary Point of Contact.:
Russell Beasley,
Contracting Officer
russell.b...@macdill.af.mil
Phone: (813) 828-4729
Fax: (813) 828-5111
Fake anti-Linux stories planted by Burson-Marstelar employees:
> A close friend
Yada yada yada...
What is this idiot Burson-Marsteler employee doing
in comp.os.linux.advocacy and why does employee Foster
who used to post as "Bobby" many anti-Arab posts in between
trolling comp.os.linux.advocacy, need to post 24/7?
Is this the same cesspit of a company Burson-Marstelar that politicians and
diplomats think they can work for by drinking from the same
cesspit pool as "Bobby" or "Foster" drinks from?
Trolling is an Industry in USA
------------------------------
Most US politicians and businesses
are so corrupt and reliant to the point of additiction
on trolls and trolling and so the fund it all illegally
through charities because
funding through charities is untraceable
through loopholes in US law.
The US politicians, embassy staff and anyone else falling for it like
Spanish government should know that the US trolls
ordering embassies to this kind of work
have no mandate for these kinds of activities.
Just rich companies that have bank rolled teams of asstroturfers
to create fake support and certainly no mandate.
There is NO MANDATE when fake asstroturfers are driving
the agenda.
The situation is so bad, it has spread into the military.
No one now knows who drives what agenda because
there is no traceability.
The fscking military, politicians, enviro nuts, music maffia,
using asttroturfing technology need the riot act read to them.
The situation is so incomprehensible that
the US has been declared falsely that it is the most charitable nation in
the world when at the same time 3 million US families
are living in shelter, and most of that charity money is fake
money being diverted from corporations into the coffers of asstroturfing
and PR companies.
Most of the money funneled through
charities never make it to charitable causes in the USA.
It is stolen by policians and presssure groups to cover
up their fake funding routes for asstroturfing.
They are used to it so we got to get over it?
No thanks!!!!
Not a single politician, embassy staff or military has a
mandate for one single political agenda because no one
knows who is funding who and who's agenda is real
and whose agenda is fake. Every signature collected
is one more fake signature for a mandate written out by
asstroturfers.
Asstroturfing through charities undermines society,
and all the nations dealing with US
and it must stop because no one in US has any legitimate
mandates for any of this activity any more.
If they have it, then should display their mandate
with pride, and show where the support had come from
and if any of it is through charities, then the
whole mandate is faked because charity status is being
abused to hide funding routes for corporate asstroturfing.
Asstroturfer offerings
----------------------
I've just read the contents of the fbo.gov solicitation RTB220610
The US government wants asstroturfers and with it sophisticated
asstroturfing technology to drown out democratic free speech,
and then hide from those whom it seeks to victimize.
It was point no.3 that caught my eye:
0003- Static IP Address Management
What that means is the same as what I've been saying for a while about
doofi, flatcake and clog are true.
They are not individuals but a whole asstroturfing team
behind each sock puppet.
There isn't enough memory between the sock operators to know
or remember what had been said earlier so you know the
conversations are being typed out by multiple individuals
impersonating each other.
It was notable gaffs by the goofy doofy sock that first gave it away.
The asstrotufing teams had already gone into government and offered them
consulting services about what technology and asstroturfing
practices were out there for fbo.gov to decide what they will
purchase in solicitation RTB220610.
:-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D
https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunity&mode=form&id=d88e9d660336be91552fe8c1a51bacb2&tab=core&_cview=1
Solicitation Number: RTB220610
Notice Type: Sources Sought
Synopsis: Added: 2010-06-22 13:42:52Jun 22, 2010 1:42 pm
Modified: 2010-06-22 14:07:11Jun 22, 2010 2:07 pmTrack Changes
0001- Online Persona Management Service.
50 User Licenses, 10 Personas per user. Software will
allow 10 personas per user, replete with background,
history, supporting details, and cyber presences
that are technically, culturally and geographacilly
consistent. Individual applications will enable an
operator to exercise a number of different online
persons from the same workstation and without fear
of being discovered by sophisticated adversaries.
Personas must be able to appear to originate in
nearly any part of the world and can interact through
conventional online services and social media platforms.
The service includes a user friendly application
environment to maximize the user's situational
awareness by displaying real-time local information.
0002- Secure Virtual Private Network (VPN).
1 each VPN provides the ability for users to
daily and automatically obtain
randomly selected IP addresses through
which they can access the internet. The daily
rotation of the user s IP address prevents compromise
during observation of likely or targeted web sites
or services, while hiding the existence of the
operation. In addition, may provide traffic mixing,
blending the user s traffic with traffic from multitudes
of users from outside the organization. This traffic
blending provides excellent cover and powerful deniability.
Anonymizer Enterprise Chameleon or equal
0003- Static IP Address Management.
:-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D
50 each Licence protects the identity of government
agencies and enterprise organizations. Enables organizations
to manage their persistent online personas by assigning
static IP addresses to each persona. Individuals
can perform static impersonations, which allow
them to look like the same person over time. Also allows
organizations that frequent same site/service often to
easily switch IP addresses to look like ordinary
users as opposed to one organization.
Anonymizer IP Mapper License or equal
:-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D
0004- Virtual Private Servers,
CONUS. 1 each Provides CONUS or OCONUS points of
presence locations that are setup for each customer
based on the geographic area of operations the
customer is operating within and which allow a
customer?s online persona(s) to appear to originate
from. Ability to provide virtual private servers that
are procured using commercial hosting centers around
the world and which are established anonymously. Once
procured, the geosite is incorporated into the network
and integrated within the customers environment and
ready for use by the customer. Unless specifically
designated as shared, locations are dedicated for use
by each customer and never shared among other customers.
Anonymizer Annual Dedicated CONUS Light Geosite or equal
0005- Virtual Private Servers, OCONUS.
8 Each Provides CONUS or OCONUS points of presence
locations that are setup for each customer based on
the geographic area of operations the customer is
operating within and which allow a customer?s
online persona(s) to appear toWas it related to drug abuse?
originate from. Ability to provide virtual private
servers that are procured using commercial hosting
centers around the world and which are established
anonymously. Once procured, the geosite is incorporated
into the network and integrated within the customers
environment and ready for use by the customer. Unless
specifically designated as shared, locations are dedicated
for use by each customer and never shared among other
customers. Anonymizer Annual Dedicated OCONUS Light ell troll, i
Geosite or equal
0006- Remote Access Secure Virtual Private Network.
1 each Secure Operating Environment provides a reliable
and protected computing environment from which to stage
and conduct operations. Every session uses a clean
Virtual Machine (VM) image. The solution is accessed
through sets of Virtual Private Network (VPN) devices
located at each Customer facility. The fully-managed
VDI (Virtual Desktop Infrastructure) is an environment
that allows users remote access from their desktop into
a VM. Upon session termination, the VM is deleted and
any virus, worm, or malicious software that the user
inadvertently downloaded is destroyed. Anonymizer
Virtual Desktop Infrastructure (VDI) Solution or equal.
Contracting Office Address:
2606 Brown Pelican Ave.
MacDill AFB, Florida 33621-5000
United States
Lets start this troll interrogation again:
Place of Performance:
Performance will be at MacDIll AFB, Kabul, Afghanistan and Baghdad, Iraq.
MacDill AFB , Florida 33679
United States
Primary Point of Contact.:
Russell Beasley,
Contracting Officer
russell.b...@macdill.af.mil
Phone: (813) 828-4729
Fax: (813) 828-5111
Foster
Apr 28, 2012, 11:52:24 AM4/28/12
to
On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 16:46:50 +0100, 7 wrote:
> Foster wrote:
>
> Fake anti-Linux stories planted by Burson-Marstelar employees:
>
>> A close friend
>
> Yada yada yada...
Poor 7 = Joseph Michael, how can we help?
> Foster wrote:
>
> Fake anti-Linux stories planted by Burson-Marstelar employees:
>
>> A close friend
>
> Yada yada yada...
Chris Ahlstrom
Apr 28, 2012, 12:07:06 PM4/28/12
to
Foster wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
Give it up, Flounder. It sounds more like a typical Windows story,
except the user thinks he has no other choice in the Windows story.
--
In a whiskey it's age, in a cigarette it's taste and in a sports car
it's impossible.
>
Give it up, Flounder. It sounds more like a typical Windows story,
except the user thinks he has no other choice in the Windows story.
--
In a whiskey it's age, in a cigarette it's taste and in a sports car
it's impossible.
Adrian
Apr 28, 2012, 12:07:01 PM4/28/12
to
On 4/28/2012 10:40 AM, Foster wrote:
> A close friend of mine has been talking about Linux, Android and how
> the world will someday be dominated by Linux. The odd part is he
> uses Windows and has an iPhone.
Android already has 55 percent of the smart phone market. It's only a
> A close friend of mine has been talking about Linux, Android and how
> the world will someday be dominated by Linux. The odd part is he
> uses Windows and has an iPhone.
matter of time before it grows to 80 percent as the iPhone loses popularity.
> So finally, a couple of weeks ago, he decides to download Ubuntu
> Linux and see if he can switch over from Windows 7 to Linux.
supported better.
> I've spoken to him a few times since then. Here are some comments.
>
> First day:
>
> Linux is great. I can't believe they give all this away for free. I
> should have dumped Windows years ago.
> Second day:
>
> I'm having some problems with my printer. The scanner nor fax
> doesn't work and I can't seem to use the highest resolution.
> Also the duplex tray isn't listed in the printer options.
and HP seem to work well.
> Third day:
>
> Somehow I managed to lose my entire iPod library. The files are
> still there but the iPod doesn't seem to see them. Linux seems
> slower than Windows.
before creating a new one. This will happen under Windows as well. I
don't know if this is the case with osx. You can only have one library
active at a time. That's one reason why the iPod is very limited,
proprietary device.
> Fourth day:
> How do I get the extra buttons and tilt wheel on my Logitech gaming
> mouse G5 to work as assignable functions?
it's not for a new user to try. Logitech refuses to support Linux
properly. This is not the fault of Linux.
http://forums.logitech.com/t5/Share-Your-Thoughts/Linux-support-G15-G13-G35-G5/td-p/628360
> Fifth day: Still can't get the printer working right. Fortunately it
> prints but does little else. Some guy on a blog says I bought the
> wrong model.
Brother and it works fine with my Linux system. I use Linuxmint though .
> Sixth ----> fourteenth day More problems, lots of them
>
> Fifteenth day: I finally unloaded this Linux crap. I think I figured
> out why it's free.
interested in trying them
> Back to Windows.
Too bad.
> Another Linux hater loose on the net and this guy is a real
> chatterbox. He's all over the bogs, talking about his horrible
> experience with Linux.
It seems he wanted Linux to fail and did everything he could to assure
failure.
> Hahah!
>
> Linux, if you think you hate it now....Wait until you actually try
> it!
Those people are able to see past the lies of the paid Microsoft
propagandists though and form their own opinion.
Foster
Apr 28, 2012, 12:10:52 PM4/28/12
to
On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 12:07:06 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> Foster wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>>
>
> Give it up, Flounder. It sounds more like a typical Windows story,
> except the user thinks he has no other choice in the Windows story.
Yea, the Windows that 90 percent of the earth uses.
> Foster wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>>
>
> Give it up, Flounder. It sounds more like a typical Windows story,
> except the user thinks he has no other choice in the Windows story.
It seems the people who have the most problems with Windows are
Linux Linturds.
For Linux to have such a small desktop market share, like 1 percent
or so, after 20 years of being free is pathetic.
And for it to have so many complaints and problems is even more
pathetic.
Chris Ahlstrom
Apr 28, 2012, 12:14:05 PM4/28/12
to
Adrian wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
> On 4/28/2012 10:40 AM, Foster wrote:
>
> <silly anecdotal points, and "Adrian"'s responses to it, snipped>
> Many people like Linux when they try it.
> Those people are able to see past the lies of the paid Microsoft
> propagandists though and form their own opinion.
I still wonder if "Adrian" is just another sock puppet used to uncloak
the posts of a known thick-as-shit-shilling troll.
--
You spank me??? LOL!!! You are pretty funny for a retard. The only
thing you're spanking is your monkey.
-- Larry Qualig, http://www.webservertalk.com/archive230-2007-4-1853959.html
> On 4/28/2012 10:40 AM, Foster wrote:
>
>
>> Another Linux hater loose on the net and this guy is a real
>> chatterbox. He's all over the bogs, talking about his horrible
>> experience with Linux.
>
> So this person is a classic complainer.
> It seems he wanted Linux to fail and did everything he could to assure
> failure.
Oh no! Someone wanting to paint Linux in a bad light! Say it ain't so!
>> Another Linux hater loose on the net and this guy is a real
>> chatterbox. He's all over the bogs, talking about his horrible
>> experience with Linux.
>
> So this person is a classic complainer.
> It seems he wanted Linux to fail and did everything he could to assure
> failure.
> Many people like Linux when they try it.
> Those people are able to see past the lies of the paid Microsoft
> propagandists though and form their own opinion.
the posts of a known thick-as-shit-shilling troll.
--
You spank me??? LOL!!! You are pretty funny for a retard. The only
thing you're spanking is your monkey.
-- Larry Qualig, http://www.webservertalk.com/archive230-2007-4-1853959.html
Torre Starnes
Apr 28, 2012, 12:16:09 PM4/28/12
to
On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 12:14:05 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> Adrian wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>> On 4/28/2012 10:40 AM, Foster wrote:
>>
>> <silly anecdotal points, and "Adrian"'s responses to it, snipped>
>>
>>> Another Linux hater loose on the net and this guy is a real
>>> chatterbox. He's all over the bogs, talking about his horrible
>>> experience with Linux.
>>
>> So this person is a classic complainer.
>> It seems he wanted Linux to fail and did everything he could to assure
>> failure.
>
> Oh no! Someone wanting to paint Linux in a bad light! Say it ain't so!
>
>> Many people like Linux when they try it.
>> Those people are able to see past the lies of the paid Microsoft
>> propagandists though and form their own opinion.
>
> I still wonder if "Adrian" is just another sock puppet used to uncloak
> the posts of a known thick-as-shit-shilling troll.
It sounds like Mark S. Bilk.
> Adrian wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>> On 4/28/2012 10:40 AM, Foster wrote:
>>
>> <silly anecdotal points, and "Adrian"'s responses to it, snipped>
>>
>>> Another Linux hater loose on the net and this guy is a real
>>> chatterbox. He's all over the bogs, talking about his horrible
>>> experience with Linux.
>>
>> So this person is a classic complainer.
>> It seems he wanted Linux to fail and did everything he could to assure
>> failure.
>
> Oh no! Someone wanting to paint Linux in a bad light! Say it ain't so!
>
>> Many people like Linux when they try it.
>> Those people are able to see past the lies of the paid Microsoft
>> propagandists though and form their own opinion.
>
> I still wonder if "Adrian" is just another sock puppet used to uncloak
> the posts of a known thick-as-shit-shilling troll.
Hadron
Apr 28, 2012, 12:31:21 PM4/28/12
to
closed source proprietary SW products. I doubt it.
Snit
Apr 28, 2012, 12:34:10 PM4/28/12
to
Adrian stated in post 4f9c15b1$0$24386$6e1e...@read.cnntp.org on 4/28/12
9:07 AM:
> On 4/28/2012 10:40 AM, Foster wrote:
>> A close friend of mine has been talking about Linux, Android and how
>> the world will someday be dominated by Linux. The odd part is he
>> uses Windows and has an iPhone.
>
> Android already has 55 percent of the smart phone market. It's only a
> matter of time before it grows to 80 percent as the iPhone loses popularity.
Yeah, Apple only had an 80% growth in their phone sales over the last year.
No doubt with such a horrible record are getting ready to drop out of the
business.
LOL!
Really... where do you people come up with such BS? The iPhone is growing
very well. So are some other devices - mostly lower end models. Good. There
is more choice. My only complaint with the other models is when then
plagiarize Apple, as Samsung repeatedly does (and notice they are the ones
who are doing the best with Android - by copying Apple). This stifles
innovation... really, there is a whole world of innovation: I would love to
see *real* competition and not just cheap knock-offs of Apple products.
With that said, with my small experience with Android, it is *less* of a
knock-off / plagiarized product than Apple tries to make it seem, at least
from what I can see with a couple of minutes of using it. I have looked,
briefly, and not found any massive smoking guns, as their is with Samsung
and its hardware plagiarism.
<http://i.imgur.com/TmUj2.jpg>
<http://goo.gl/S2AJR>
<http://goo.gl/bWDs6>
<http://goo.gl/NjrfV>
If there is evidence that strong against Android, as Apple seems to believe
there is, I would like to see it.
>> So finally, a couple of weeks ago, he decides to download Ubuntu
>> Linux and see if he can switch over from Windows 7 to Linux.
>
> He should have waited for Ubuntu 12.04 LTS. It's more stable and is
> supported better.
But still quite a mess. I really wanted to like it. I think I am going to
stick with Mint or maybe try PCLOS. I am sincerely disappointed with
Canonical and Shuttleworth on this.
...
--
🙈🙉🙊
9:07 AM:
> On 4/28/2012 10:40 AM, Foster wrote:
>> A close friend of mine has been talking about Linux, Android and how
>> the world will someday be dominated by Linux. The odd part is he
>> uses Windows and has an iPhone.
>
> Android already has 55 percent of the smart phone market. It's only a
> matter of time before it grows to 80 percent as the iPhone loses popularity.
No doubt with such a horrible record are getting ready to drop out of the
business.
LOL!
Really... where do you people come up with such BS? The iPhone is growing
very well. So are some other devices - mostly lower end models. Good. There
is more choice. My only complaint with the other models is when then
plagiarize Apple, as Samsung repeatedly does (and notice they are the ones
who are doing the best with Android - by copying Apple). This stifles
innovation... really, there is a whole world of innovation: I would love to
see *real* competition and not just cheap knock-offs of Apple products.
With that said, with my small experience with Android, it is *less* of a
knock-off / plagiarized product than Apple tries to make it seem, at least
from what I can see with a couple of minutes of using it. I have looked,
briefly, and not found any massive smoking guns, as their is with Samsung
and its hardware plagiarism.
<http://i.imgur.com/TmUj2.jpg>
<http://goo.gl/S2AJR>
<http://goo.gl/bWDs6>
<http://goo.gl/NjrfV>
If there is evidence that strong against Android, as Apple seems to believe
there is, I would like to see it.
>> So finally, a couple of weeks ago, he decides to download Ubuntu
>> Linux and see if he can switch over from Windows 7 to Linux.
>
> He should have waited for Ubuntu 12.04 LTS. It's more stable and is
> supported better.
stick with Mint or maybe try PCLOS. I am sincerely disappointed with
Canonical and Shuttleworth on this.
...
--
🙈🙉🙊
Hadron
Apr 28, 2012, 12:49:36 PM4/28/12
to
a joke.
Foster
Apr 28, 2012, 12:57:09 PM4/28/12
to
"fixes" most of what is wrong with Ubuntu proves that.
Of course LinuxMint creates it's own new set of problems in the
process but it's still better than Ubuntu IMHO.
Hadron
Apr 28, 2012, 1:00:28 PM4/28/12
to
freeloading Debian on the way, only to have their work ripped off and
improved. Hilarious really.
Foster
Apr 28, 2012, 1:05:26 PM4/28/12
to
Canonical has done one thing for Linux and that is put desktop Linux
on the radar for those who might want it. It used to be Redhat =
Linux. Now it's Ubuntu = Linux, for the average person.
It is funny though how Debian is pretty conservative and stable.
Along comes Ubuntu, screwing up the basic Debian only to have
LinuxMint come along and fix most of what Ubuntu screws up.
I'll bet it pisses of Canonical big time!
William Poaster
Apr 28, 2012, 1:44:58 PM4/28/12
to
Here is a facsimile from Chris Ahlstrom who, on 28/4/2012 17:14, wrote:
> Adrian wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>> On 4/28/2012 10:40 AM, Foster wrote:
>>
>> <silly anecdotal points, and "Adrian"'s responses to it, snipped>
>>
>>> Another Linux hater loose on the net and this guy is a real
>>> chatterbox. He's all over the bogs, talking about his horrible
>>> experience with Linux.
>>
>> So this person is a classic complainer.
>> It seems he wanted Linux to fail and did everything he could to assure
>> failure.
>
> Oh no! Someone wanting to paint Linux in a bad light! Say it ain't so!
>
>> Many people like Linux when they try it.
>> Those people are able to see past the lies of the paid Microsoft
>> propagandists though and form their own opinion.
>
> I still wonder if "Adrian" is just another sock puppet used to uncloak
> the posts of a known thick-as-shit-shilling troll.
References: <1sjw5ty0t0kw8$.vild0asi9ogm$.d...@40tude.net>
> Adrian wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>> On 4/28/2012 10:40 AM, Foster wrote:
>>
>> <silly anecdotal points, and "Adrian"'s responses to it, snipped>
>>
>>> Another Linux hater loose on the net and this guy is a real
>>> chatterbox. He's all over the bogs, talking about his horrible
>>> experience with Linux.
>>
>> So this person is a classic complainer.
>> It seems he wanted Linux to fail and did everything he could to assure
>> failure.
>
> Oh no! Someone wanting to paint Linux in a bad light! Say it ain't so!
>
>> Many people like Linux when they try it.
>> Those people are able to see past the lies of the paid Microsoft
>> propagandists though and form their own opinion.
>
> I still wonder if "Adrian" is just another sock puppet used to uncloak
> the posts of a known thick-as-shit-shilling troll.
<4f9c15b1$0$24386$6e1e...@read.cnntp.org>
Both are trolls. Apart from the "40tude.net" troll, there's a
nymshifting troll posting through "read.cnntp.org", which I've had
blocked for some time.
--
As a computer, I find your faith in M$ technology amusing.
Most people are sheep.
Microsoft is very effective
at fleecing the flockers.
Torre Starnes
Apr 28, 2012, 2:07:43 PM4/28/12
to
On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 18:44:58 +0100, William Poaster wrote:
> Here is a facsimile from Chris Ahlstrom who, on 28/4/2012 17:14, wrote:
>
>> Adrian wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>>
>>> On 4/28/2012 10:40 AM, Foster wrote:
>>>
>>> <silly anecdotal points, and "Adrian"'s responses to it, snipped>
>>>
>>>> Another Linux hater loose on the net and this guy is a real
>>>> chatterbox. He's all over the bogs, talking about his horrible
>>>> experience with Linux.
>>>
>>> So this person is a classic complainer.
>>> It seems he wanted Linux to fail and did everything he could to assure
>>> failure.
>>
>> Oh no! Someone wanting to paint Linux in a bad light! Say it ain't so!
>>
>>> Many people like Linux when they try it.
>>> Those people are able to see past the lies of the paid Microsoft
>>> propagandists though and form their own opinion.
>>
>> I still wonder if "Adrian" is just another sock puppet used to uncloak
>> the posts of a known thick-as-shit-shilling troll.
>
> References: <1sjw5ty0t0kw8$.vild0asi9ogm$.d...@40tude.net>
> <4f9c15b1$0$24386$6e1e...@read.cnntp.org>
>
> Both are trolls. Apart from the "40tude.net" troll, there's a
> nymshifting troll posting through "read.cnntp.org", which I've had
> blocked for some time.
Sounds like HPT.
> Here is a facsimile from Chris Ahlstrom who, on 28/4/2012 17:14, wrote:
>
>> Adrian wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>>
>>> On 4/28/2012 10:40 AM, Foster wrote:
>>>
>>> <silly anecdotal points, and "Adrian"'s responses to it, snipped>
>>>
>>>> Another Linux hater loose on the net and this guy is a real
>>>> chatterbox. He's all over the bogs, talking about his horrible
>>>> experience with Linux.
>>>
>>> So this person is a classic complainer.
>>> It seems he wanted Linux to fail and did everything he could to assure
>>> failure.
>>
>> Oh no! Someone wanting to paint Linux in a bad light! Say it ain't so!
>>
>>> Many people like Linux when they try it.
>>> Those people are able to see past the lies of the paid Microsoft
>>> propagandists though and form their own opinion.
>>
>> I still wonder if "Adrian" is just another sock puppet used to uncloak
>> the posts of a known thick-as-shit-shilling troll.
>
> References: <1sjw5ty0t0kw8$.vild0asi9ogm$.d...@40tude.net>
> <4f9c15b1$0$24386$6e1e...@read.cnntp.org>
>
> Both are trolls. Apart from the "40tude.net" troll, there's a
> nymshifting troll posting through "read.cnntp.org", which I've had
> blocked for some time.
He hits the firewater and the nyms just keep on coming.
Tattoo Vampire
Apr 28, 2012, 2:16:46 PM4/28/12
to
Snit wrote:
> But still quite a mess. I really wanted to like it. I think I am going
> to stick with Mint or maybe try PCLOS. I am sincerely disappointed with
> Canonical and Shuttleworth on this.
You might want to not consider PCLinuxOS. It's not as "work right out of
> But still quite a mess. I really wanted to like it. I think I am going
> to stick with Mint or maybe try PCLOS. I am sincerely disappointed with
> Canonical and Shuttleworth on this.
the box" as Mint, and from what I've read on their forums, Texstar has
been somewhat inactive again.
Ingrid & Henk
Apr 28, 2012, 3:06:13 PM4/28/12
to
"William Poaster" <w...@induh-vidual.net> schreef in bericht
news:qtmt69-...@alpha-one.wpnetwork.org...
Dumb Willy? lol !
Do you really believe headers cant be forged?
Are you really that stupid?
news:qtmt69-...@alpha-one.wpnetwork.org...
> Here is a facsimile from Chris Ahlstrom who, on 28/4/2012 17:14, wrote:
>
>> Adrian wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>>
>>> On 4/28/2012 10:40 AM, Foster wrote:
>>>
>>> <silly anecdotal points, and "Adrian"'s responses to it, snipped>
>>>
>>>> Another Linux hater loose on the net and this guy is a real
>>>> chatterbox. He's all over the bogs, talking about his horrible
>>>> experience with Linux.
>>>
>>> So this person is a classic complainer.
>>> It seems he wanted Linux to fail and did everything he could to assure
>>> failure.
>>
>> Oh no! Someone wanting to paint Linux in a bad light! Say it ain't so!
>>
>>> Many people like Linux when they try it.
>>> Those people are able to see past the lies of the paid Microsoft
>>> propagandists though and form their own opinion.
>>
>> I still wonder if "Adrian" is just another sock puppet used to uncloak
>> the posts of a known thick-as-shit-shilling troll.
>
> References: <1sjw5ty0t0kw8$.vild0asi9ogm$.d...@40tude.net>
> <4f9c15b1$0$24386$6e1e...@read.cnntp.org>
>
> Both are trolls. Apart from the "40tude.net" troll, there's a
> nymshifting troll posting through "read.cnntp.org", which I've had
> blocked for some time.
>
Bwahahahahaaah!, are you *STILL* bragging about your swiss cheese killfiles
>
>> Adrian wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>>
>>> On 4/28/2012 10:40 AM, Foster wrote:
>>>
>>> <silly anecdotal points, and "Adrian"'s responses to it, snipped>
>>>
>>>> Another Linux hater loose on the net and this guy is a real
>>>> chatterbox. He's all over the bogs, talking about his horrible
>>>> experience with Linux.
>>>
>>> So this person is a classic complainer.
>>> It seems he wanted Linux to fail and did everything he could to assure
>>> failure.
>>
>> Oh no! Someone wanting to paint Linux in a bad light! Say it ain't so!
>>
>>> Many people like Linux when they try it.
>>> Those people are able to see past the lies of the paid Microsoft
>>> propagandists though and form their own opinion.
>>
>> I still wonder if "Adrian" is just another sock puppet used to uncloak
>> the posts of a known thick-as-shit-shilling troll.
>
> References: <1sjw5ty0t0kw8$.vild0asi9ogm$.d...@40tude.net>
> <4f9c15b1$0$24386$6e1e...@read.cnntp.org>
>
> Both are trolls. Apart from the "40tude.net" troll, there's a
> nymshifting troll posting through "read.cnntp.org", which I've had
> blocked for some time.
>
Dumb Willy? lol !
Do you really believe headers cant be forged?
Are you really that stupid?
Ingrid & Henk
Apr 28, 2012, 3:10:21 PM4/28/12
to
"Tattoo Vampire" <sit...@this.computer> schreef in bericht
news:jnhc6e$vko$2...@news.albasani.net...
Did you mean: "they shit on you right out of the box"?
--
Turd chrisv in COLA:
Turd chrisv lying about the iPad: "Hell, I thought all-along that it would
be a success."
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/3d83510112466afb?hl=nl
Turd chrisv: "I am 100% honest."
lol !
news:jnhc6e$vko$2...@news.albasani.net...
--
Turd chrisv in COLA:
Turd chrisv lying about the iPad: "Hell, I thought all-along that it would
be a success."
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/3d83510112466afb?hl=nl
Turd chrisv: "I am 100% honest."
lol !
Snit
Apr 28, 2012, 3:56:57 PM4/28/12
to
Hadron stated in post 6osjfn4...@news.eternal-september.org on 4/28/12
9:49 AM:
Before Unity I thoght they were a pretty good distro. Now... no. I get the
goal: the UI of desktop Linux is a bit of a mess, but their attempts to fix
it make it worse, not better.
--
🙈🙉🙊
9:49 AM:
goal: the UI of desktop Linux is a bit of a mess, but their attempts to fix
it make it worse, not better.
--
🙈🙉🙊
Snit
Apr 28, 2012, 3:57:58 PM4/28/12
to
Hadron stated in post 7bfwbn4...@news.eternal-september.org on 4/28/12
10:00 AM:
>>>> But still quite a mess. I really wanted to like it. I think I am going to
>>>> stick with Mint or maybe try PCLOS. I am sincerely disappointed with
>>>> Canonical and Shuttleworth on this.
>>>> ...
>>>
>>> Ubuntu always was and is a mess. Their fixed date release schedules are
>>> a joke.
>>
>> Just the fact that a distribution like LinuxMint comes along and
>> "fixes" most of what is wrong with Ubuntu proves that.
>>
>> Of course LinuxMint creates it's own new set of problems in the
>> process but it's still better than Ubuntu IMHO.
>
> Canonical must HATE the fact that they pay people to create Ubuntu,
> freeloading Debian on the way, only to have their work ripped off and
> improved. Hilarious really.
I have never heard of Shuttleworth making comments that would lead me to
believe he has any problem with it at all. He seems very pro-choice and
welcomes different distros.
--
🙈🙉🙊
10:00 AM:
>>>> But still quite a mess. I really wanted to like it. I think I am going to
>>>> stick with Mint or maybe try PCLOS. I am sincerely disappointed with
>>>> Canonical and Shuttleworth on this.
>>>> ...
>>>
>>> Ubuntu always was and is a mess. Their fixed date release schedules are
>>> a joke.
>>
>> Just the fact that a distribution like LinuxMint comes along and
>> "fixes" most of what is wrong with Ubuntu proves that.
>>
>> Of course LinuxMint creates it's own new set of problems in the
>> process but it's still better than Ubuntu IMHO.
>
> Canonical must HATE the fact that they pay people to create Ubuntu,
> freeloading Debian on the way, only to have their work ripped off and
> improved. Hilarious really.
believe he has any problem with it at all. He seems very pro-choice and
welcomes different distros.
--
🙈🙉🙊
Snit
Apr 28, 2012, 3:58:54 PM4/28/12
to
Foster stated in post 1ag8upps6fwzb.urfzek4jhg5g$.d...@40tude.net on 4/28/12
10:05 AM:
>>>> Ubuntu always was and is a mess. Their fixed date release schedules are
>>>> a joke.
>>>
>>> Just the fact that a distribution like LinuxMint comes along and
>>> "fixes" most of what is wrong with Ubuntu proves that.
>>>
>>> Of course LinuxMint creates it's own new set of problems in the
>>> process but it's still better than Ubuntu IMHO.
>>
>> Canonical must HATE the fact that they pay people to create Ubuntu,
>> freeloading Debian on the way, only to have their work ripped off and
>> improved. Hilarious really.
>
> Yea.
> Canonical has done one thing for Linux and that is put desktop Linux
> on the radar for those who might want it. It used to be Redhat =
> Linux. Now it's Ubuntu = Linux, for the average person.
>
> It is funny though how Debian is pretty conservative and stable.
> Along comes Ubuntu, screwing up the basic Debian only to have
> LinuxMint come along and fix most of what Ubuntu screws up.
>
> I'll bet it pisses of Canonical big time!
It might, but I have never seen any indication of that from Shuttleworth or
anyone else from Canonical.
--
🙈🙉🙊
10:05 AM:
>>>> Ubuntu always was and is a mess. Their fixed date release schedules are
>>>> a joke.
>>>
>>> Just the fact that a distribution like LinuxMint comes along and
>>> "fixes" most of what is wrong with Ubuntu proves that.
>>>
>>> Of course LinuxMint creates it's own new set of problems in the
>>> process but it's still better than Ubuntu IMHO.
>>
>> Canonical must HATE the fact that they pay people to create Ubuntu,
>> freeloading Debian on the way, only to have their work ripped off and
>> improved. Hilarious really.
>
> Yea.
> Canonical has done one thing for Linux and that is put desktop Linux
> on the radar for those who might want it. It used to be Redhat =
> Linux. Now it's Ubuntu = Linux, for the average person.
>
> It is funny though how Debian is pretty conservative and stable.
> Along comes Ubuntu, screwing up the basic Debian only to have
> LinuxMint come along and fix most of what Ubuntu screws up.
>
> I'll bet it pisses of Canonical big time!
anyone else from Canonical.
--
🙈🙉🙊
Snit
Apr 28, 2012, 4:00:17 PM4/28/12
to
Tattoo Vampire stated in post jnhc6e$vko$2...@news.albasani.net on 4/28/12
11:16 AM:
I have only looked at PCLOS a little in the last few months but I was
impressed with how far they had come. I think I will take your advice and
play with that instead of Mint.
--
🙈🙉🙊
11:16 AM:
impressed with how far they had come. I think I will take your advice and
play with that instead of Mint.
--
🙈🙉🙊
-hh
Apr 28, 2012, 4:28:37 PM4/28/12
to
On Apr 28, 11:07 am, Adrian <vostokhon...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On 4/28/2012 10:40 AM, Foster wrote:
>
> > A close friend of mine has been talking about Linux, Android and how
> > the world will someday be dominated by Linux. The odd part is he
> > uses Windows and has an iPhone.
>
> Android already has 55 percent of the smart phone market. It's only a
> matter of time before it grows to 80 percent as the iPhone loses popularity.
Android had a 55% share of sales back in 2011. And even then, that
> On 4/28/2012 10:40 AM, Foster wrote:
>
> > A close friend of mine has been talking about Linux, Android and how
> > the world will someday be dominated by Linux. The odd part is he
> > uses Windows and has an iPhone.
>
> Android already has 55 percent of the smart phone market. It's only a
> matter of time before it grows to 80 percent as the iPhone loses popularity.
was only on the "units sold" metric - not revenue, profits or even
usage.
>
> > So finally, a couple of weeks ago, he decides to download Ubuntu
> > Linux and see if he can switch over from Windows 7 to Linux.
>
> He should have waited for Ubuntu 12.04 LTS. It's more stable and is
> supported better.
"don't worry, the next update will finally be the one that doesn't
suck"!
> > I've spoken to him a few times since then. Here are some comments.
>
> > First day:
>
> > Linux is great. I can't believe they give all this away for free. I
> > should have dumped Windows years ago.
>
> He is right about that.
there's fewer reboots.
>
> > Second day:
>
> > I'm having some problems with my printer. The scanner nor fax
> > doesn't work and I can't seem to use the highest resolution.
> > Also the duplex tray isn't listed in the printer options.
>
> If he has a MFP he could have problems depending upon the model. Brother
> and HP seem to work well.
all OSs.
>
> > Third day:
>
> > Somehow I managed to lose my entire iPod library. The files are
> > still there but the iPod doesn't seem to see them. Linux seems
> > slower than Windows.
>
> He probably didn't read the instructions.
> He has to back up his library
> before creating a new one. This will happen under Windows as well. I
> don't know if this is the case with osx. You can only have one library
> active at a time. That's one reason why the iPod is very limited,
> proprietary device.
>
> > Fourth day:
> > How do I get the extra buttons and tilt wheel on my Logitech gaming
> > mouse G5 to work as assignable functions?
>
> He bought the wrong mouse. The additional buttons can be assigned but
> it's not for a new user to try. Logitech refuses to support Linux
> properly. This is not the fault of Linux.
>
Actually, its the fault of Linux Advocates who constantly yammer on
about how wonderful it is that Linux supports all & old harvested (and
lots of it). As such, this attempt to excuse is misdirected.
> http://forums.logitech.com/t5/Share-Your-Thou
ghts/Linux-support-G15-G...
>
> > Fifth day: Still can't get the printer working right. Fortunately it
> > prints but does little else. Some guy on a blog says I bought the
> > wrong model.
>
> Maybe. It depends on the model some work better than others. I use a
> Brother and it works fine with my Linux system. I use Linuxmint though .
>
More bullshit just like the above: potential customers are routinely
> > Fifth day: Still can't get the printer working right. Fortunately it
> > prints but does little else. Some guy on a blog says I bought the
> > wrong model.
>
> Maybe. It depends on the model some work better than others. I use a
> Brother and it works fine with my Linux system. I use Linuxmint though .
>
mislead by compatibility claims by inept "advocates".
> > Sixth ----> fourteenth day More problems, lots of them
>
> > Fifteenth day: I finally unloaded this Linux crap. I think I figured
> > out why it's free.
>
> There are solutions to the problems but it seems your friend isn't
> interested in trying them
months or years ago), the community is failing to refine their product
or message to be accurate & fair. If they were selling this as a
regular commercial product, they would have incurred deceptive
marketing lawsuits...but because it's a give-away, those consumer
protection laws don't easily apply.
>
> > Back to Windows.
>
> Too bad.
Linux too and gone back to commercial dog food as the lesser of evils.
>
> > Another Linux hater loose on the net and this guy is a real
> > chatterbox. He's all over the bogs, talking about his horrible
> > experience with Linux.
>
> So this person is a classic complainer.
> It seems he wanted Linux to fail and did everything he could to assure
> failure.
> > Hahah!
>
> > Linux, if you think you hate it now....Wait until you actually try
> > it!
>
> Many people like Linux when they try it.
substantiate that claim.
> Those people are able to see past the lies of the paid Microsoft
> propagandists though and form their own opinion.
includes Apple and Linux ... And then make their own decision.
-hh
OldGoat
Apr 28, 2012, 6:25:09 PM4/28/12
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On 4/28/2012 8:40 AM, Foster wrote:
> A close friend of mine has been talking about Linux, Android and how
> the world will someday be dominated by Linux. The odd part is he
> uses Windows and has an iPhone.
>
> A close friend of mine has been talking about Linux, Android and how
> the world will someday be dominated by Linux. The odd part is he
> uses Windows and has an iPhone.
>
> So finally, a couple of weeks ago, he decides to download Ubuntu
> Linux and see if he can switch over from Windows 7 to Linux.
>
> Linux and see if he can switch over from Windows 7 to Linux.
>
> I've spoken to him a few times since then. Here are some comments.
>
> First day:
>
> Linux is great. I can't believe they give all this away for free. I
> should have dumped Windows years ago.
>
>
> First day:
>
> Linux is great. I can't believe they give all this away for free. I
> should have dumped Windows years ago.
>
> Second day:
>
> I'm having some problems with my printer. The scanner nor fax
> doesn't work and I can't seem to use the highest resolution.
> Also the duplex tray isn't listed in the printer options.
>
>
> I'm having some problems with my printer. The scanner nor fax
> doesn't work and I can't seem to use the highest resolution.
> Also the duplex tray isn't listed in the printer options.
>
> Third day:
>
> Somehow I managed to lose my entire iPod library. The files are
> still there but the iPod doesn't seem to see them. Linux seems
> slower than Windows.
>
>
> Somehow I managed to lose my entire iPod library. The files are
> still there but the iPod doesn't seem to see them. Linux seems
> slower than Windows.
>
> Fourth day:
> How do I get the extra buttons and tilt wheel on my Logitech gaming
> mouse G5 to work as assignable functions?
>
> How do I get the extra buttons and tilt wheel on my Logitech gaming
> mouse G5 to work as assignable functions?
>
> Fifth day: Still can't get the printer working right. Fortunately it
> prints but does little else. Some guy on a blog says I bought the
> wrong model.
>
> prints but does little else. Some guy on a blog says I bought the
> wrong model.
>
> Sixth ----> fourteenth day More problems, lots of them
>
> Fifteenth day: I finally unloaded this Linux crap. I think I figured
> out why it's free.
>
> Back to Windows.
>
> Fifteenth day: I finally unloaded this Linux crap. I think I figured
> out why it's free.
>
>
> Another Linux hater loose on the net and this guy is a real
> chatterbox. He's all over the bogs, talking about his horrible
> experience with Linux.
>
> Another Linux hater loose on the net and this guy is a real
> chatterbox. He's all over the bogs, talking about his horrible
> experience with Linux.
>
> Hahah!
>
> Linux, if you think you hate it now....Wait until you actually try
> it!
I know. Downloaded the SolarisStudio using FireFox on Linux and it
>
> Linux, if you think you hate it now....Wait until you actually try
> it!
wasn't in the Download directory where it was supposed to go. No where
to be found... all 405Mb just disappeared.
OldGoat
Apr 28, 2012, 6:25:54 PM4/28/12
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OldGoat
Apr 28, 2012, 6:26:43 PM4/28/12
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Torre Starnes
Apr 28, 2012, 8:11:02 PM4/28/12
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On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 13:28:37 -0700 (PDT), -hh wrote:
> On Apr 28, 11:07 am, Adrian <vostokhon...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On 4/28/2012 10:40 AM, Foster wrote:
>>
>>> A close friend of mine has been talking about Linux, Android and how
>>> the world will someday be dominated by Linux. The odd part is he
>>> uses Windows and has an iPhone.
>>
>> Android already has 55 percent of the smart phone market. It's only a
>> matter of time before it grows to 80 percent as the iPhone loses popularity.
>
> Android had a 55% share of sales back in 2011. And even then, that
> was only on the "units sold" metric - not revenue, profits or even
> usage.
Seeing as there are a multitude of devices, that goes to figure.
> On Apr 28, 11:07 am, Adrian <vostokhon...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On 4/28/2012 10:40 AM, Foster wrote:
>>
>>> A close friend of mine has been talking about Linux, Android and how
>>> the world will someday be dominated by Linux. The odd part is he
>>> uses Windows and has an iPhone.
>>
>> Android already has 55 percent of the smart phone market. It's only a
>> matter of time before it grows to 80 percent as the iPhone loses popularity.
>
> Android had a 55% share of sales back in 2011. And even then, that
> was only on the "units sold" metric - not revenue, profits or even
> usage.
The problem with Android is that some of the devices are better than
others. Much better in fact. Pick one of those devices and you will
be happy. Pick one of the porkers and you will be miserable. Just
read the reviews.
>>
>>> So finally, a couple of weeks ago, he decides to download Ubuntu
>>> Linux and see if he can switch over from Windows 7 to Linux.
>>
>> He should have waited for Ubuntu 12.04 LTS. It's more stable and is
>> supported better.
>
> Unfortunately, thats identical to what MS has been saying for decades;
> "don't worry, the next update will finally be the one that doesn't
> suck"!
Windows 2000 being best is a myth.
Best for business maybe, but certainly not for other situations and
most definitely not for anything multimedia related at the time.
So far, I'm not liking what I'm seeing in Windows 8.
>
>>> I've spoken to him a few times since then. Here are some comments.
>>
>>> First day:
>>
>>> Linux is great. I can't believe they give all this away for free. I
>>> should have dumped Windows years ago.
>>
>> He is right about that.
>
> Only from the perspective that a Linux install seems faster because
> there's fewer reboots.
basic, like email, browsing etc and if your hardware works it can be
just the ticket.
It does install quickly.
>>
>>> Second day:
>>
>>> I'm having some problems with my printer. The scanner nor fax
>>> doesn't work and I can't seem to use the highest resolution.
>>> Also the duplex tray isn't listed in the printer options.
>>
>> If he has a MFP he could have problems depending upon the model. Brother
>> and HP seem to work well.
>
> Unfortunately, driver incompatibilities are a reality on. Basically
> all OSs.
work fully with the current version of Windows. Sure some
manufacturers eventually orphan support for older hardware on newest
versions of Windows, that's true, but that's life when progress is
involved. If the hardware is so important to the user, they can
continue using the version of Windows it works on. Problem solved.
>>
>>> Third day:
>>
>>> Somehow I managed to lose my entire iPod library. The files are
>>> still there but the iPod doesn't seem to see them. Linux seems
>>> slower than Windows.
>>
>> He probably didn't read the instructions.
>
> It didn't think of warning?
Even if you use say iTunes and switch to Foobar2000 or Media Monkey,
it warns you that a library exists and will be over written.
>> He has to back up his library
>> before creating a new one. This will happen under Windows as well. I
>> don't know if this is the case with osx. You can only have one library
>> active at a time. That's one reason why the iPod is very limited,
>> proprietary device.
>
> Not quite, but it does sound like a good excuse.
The key is to back up the library so that when the program you just
switched to wants to create it's own library it doesn't get over
written. I think Media Monkey will import an iTunes Library, but I'm
not certain.
>>> Fourth day:
>>> How do I get the extra buttons and tilt wheel on my Logitech gaming
>>> mouse G5 to work as assignable functions?
>>
>> He bought the wrong mouse. The additional buttons can be assigned but
>> it's not for a new user to try. Logitech refuses to support Linux
>> properly. This is not the fault of Linux.
>>
> Bullshit.
The G5 is a very high end, and very good mouse.
Even has weights than can be installed to change the feel.
I love mine. No lag, no jitters and it feels really smooth.
Oh yea, all buttons are *easily* assignable and work fine.
That's under Windows of course.
> Actually, its the fault of Linux Advocates who constantly yammer on
> about how wonderful it is that Linux supports all & old harvested (and
> lots of it). As such, this attempt to excuse is misdirected.
than being told by some Linux zealot how some piece of hardware
"works for me" when it's obvious it either doesn't or requires a
degree in computer science to make it work.
>> http://forums.logitech.com/t5/Share-Your-Thou
>> ghts/Linux-support-G15-G...
>>
>>> Fifth day: Still can't get the printer working right. Fortunately it
>>> prints but does little else. Some guy on a blog says I bought the
>>> wrong model.
>>
>> Maybe. It depends on the model some work better than others. I use a
>> Brother and it works fine with my Linux system. I use Linuxmint though .
>>
> More bullshit just like the above: potential customers are routinely
> mislead by compatibility claims by inept "advocates".
>>> Sixth ----> fourteenth day More problems, lots of them
>>
>>> Fifteenth day: I finally unloaded this Linux crap. I think I figured
>>> out why it's free.
>>
>> There are solutions to the problems but it seems your friend isn't
>> interested in trying them
>
> When the most common comments are "you bought the wrong hardware (X
> months or years ago), the community is failing to refine their product
> or message to be accurate & fair. If they were selling this as a
> regular commercial product, they would have incurred deceptive
> marketing lawsuits...but because it's a give-away, those consumer
> protection laws don't easily apply.
Nobody wants it.
What is sold is support contracts, and goodness knows they are
needed.
>>
>>> Back to Windows.
>>
>> Too bad.
>
> Beats the alternative...which he did (allegedly) try. I've tried
> Linux too and gone back to commercial dog food as the lesser of evils.
I don't like Bill Gates.
However, they make the software that most of the earth is using on
the desktop. It's well supported and works very, very nicely.
For me to switch full time to Linux would be like going from a
Porsche to a Model T.
>>
>>> Another Linux hater loose on the net and this guy is a real
>>> chatterbox. He's all over the bogs, talking about his horrible
>>> experience with Linux.
>>
>> So this person is a classic complainer.
>> It seems he wanted Linux to fail and did everything he could to assure
>> failure.
>
> Stages of grief - denial.
zealots no matter the topic.
Linux looks great on paper.
It's only when you use it that you truly learn how much it sucks.
>>> Hahah!
>>
>>> Linux, if you think you hate it now....Wait until you actually try
>>> it!
>>
>> Many people like Linux when they try it.
>
> Good luck finding scientifically valid & objective stats that
> substantiate that claim.
gone to OSX.
He had too many problems with updated versions, support and
applications so he finally admitted it was a waste of time.
About 2 years wasted, not totally, but in general.
>> Those people are able to see past the lies of the paid Microsoft
>> propagandists though and form their own opinion.
>
> Except by that same basis, they're able to see through everyone, which
> includes Apple and Linux ... And then make their own decision.
>
> -hh
People try Linux and hate it.
That's the difference and for good reason.
Apple makes a quality product.
Linux?
Good luck.
You'll need it.
Foster
Apr 28, 2012, 8:13:15 PM4/28/12
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experiment gone amok.
DFS
Apr 29, 2012, 12:57:25 AM4/29/12
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On 4/28/2012 11:46 AM, 7 wrote:
> The situation is so incomprehensible that
> the US has been declared falsely that it is the most charitable nation in
> the world when at the same time 3 million US families
> are living in shelter, and most of that charity money is fake
> money being diverted from corporations into the coffers of asstroturfing
> and PR companies.
We are the most charitable nation, shithead. Your stupid lies won't
change that.
> Most of the money funneled through
> charities never make it to charitable causes in the USA.
> It is stolen by policians and presssure groups to cover
> up their fake funding routes for asstroturfing.
> They are used to it so we got to get over it?
Another stupid lie.
Too bad you can't be held liable for attempted fraud with your
"inventions" on www.enemygadgets.com
* plastic engine that can power a Formula 1 car
* robots that can make small bakery items
* doodads that replace gears and belts inside a CNC machine
It's all non-working fantasy bullshit - and you ask big bucks for some
of it.
> The situation is so incomprehensible that
> the US has been declared falsely that it is the most charitable nation in
> the world when at the same time 3 million US families
> are living in shelter, and most of that charity money is fake
> money being diverted from corporations into the coffers of asstroturfing
> and PR companies.
We are the most charitable nation, shithead. Your stupid lies won't
change that.
> Most of the money funneled through
> charities never make it to charitable causes in the USA.
> It is stolen by policians and presssure groups to cover
> up their fake funding routes for asstroturfing.
> They are used to it so we got to get over it?
Another stupid lie.
Too bad you can't be held liable for attempted fraud with your
"inventions" on www.enemygadgets.com
* plastic engine that can power a Formula 1 car
* robots that can make small bakery items
* doodads that replace gears and belts inside a CNC machine
It's all non-working fantasy bullshit - and you ask big bucks for some
of it.
DFS
Apr 29, 2012, 12:58:11 AM4/29/12
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On 4/28/2012 10:40 AM, Foster wrote:
> A close friend of mine has been talking about Linux, Android and how
> the world will someday be dominated by Linux. The odd part is he
> uses Windows and has an iPhone.
>
> A close friend of mine has been talking about Linux, Android and how
> the world will someday be dominated by Linux. The odd part is he
> uses Windows and has an iPhone.
>
> So finally, a couple of weeks ago, he decides to download Ubuntu
> Linux and see if he can switch over from Windows 7 to Linux.
>
> Linux and see if he can switch over from Windows 7 to Linux.
>
> I've spoken to him a few times since then. Here are some comments.
>
> First day:
>
> Linux is great. I can't believe they give all this away for free. I
> should have dumped Windows years ago.
>
>
> First day:
>
> Linux is great. I can't believe they give all this away for free. I
> should have dumped Windows years ago.
>
> Second day:
>
> I'm having some problems with my printer. The scanner nor fax
> doesn't work and I can't seem to use the highest resolution.
> Also the duplex tray isn't listed in the printer options.
>
>
> I'm having some problems with my printer. The scanner nor fax
> doesn't work and I can't seem to use the highest resolution.
> Also the duplex tray isn't listed in the printer options.
>
> Third day:
>
> Somehow I managed to lose my entire iPod library. The files are
> still there but the iPod doesn't seem to see them. Linux seems
> slower than Windows.
>
>
> Somehow I managed to lose my entire iPod library. The files are
> still there but the iPod doesn't seem to see them. Linux seems
> slower than Windows.
>
> Fourth day:
> How do I get the extra buttons and tilt wheel on my Logitech gaming
> mouse G5 to work as assignable functions?
>
> How do I get the extra buttons and tilt wheel on my Logitech gaming
> mouse G5 to work as assignable functions?
>
> Fifth day: Still can't get the printer working right. Fortunately it
> prints but does little else. Some guy on a blog says I bought the
> wrong model.
>
> prints but does little else. Some guy on a blog says I bought the
> wrong model.
>
> Sixth ----> fourteenth day More problems, lots of them
>
> Fifteenth day: I finally unloaded this Linux crap. I think I figured
> out why it's free.
>
> Back to Windows.
>
> Fifteenth day: I finally unloaded this Linux crap. I think I figured
> out why it's free.
>
>
> Another Linux hater loose on the net and this guy is a real
> chatterbox. He's all over the bogs, talking about his horrible
> experience with Linux.
>
> Another Linux hater loose on the net and this guy is a real
> chatterbox. He's all over the bogs, talking about his horrible
> experience with Linux.
>
> Hahah!
>
> Linux, if you think you hate it now....Wait until you actually try
> it!
HA!!!!
>
> Linux, if you think you hate it now....Wait until you actually try
> it!
He has an iron constitution if he actually stuck with it for 15 days. A
few hours is more than enough to induce nausea and a gag reflex and
instigate a reboot/wipe Linux scenario.
Tell your friend to stick with it another 6 months, until the next
release/next version/next kernel fixes EVERYTHING. And this time they
mean it!
DFS
Apr 29, 2012, 1:07:43 AM4/29/12
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On 4/28/2012 12:14 PM, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> Adrian wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>> On 4/28/2012 10:40 AM, Foster wrote:
>>
>> <silly anecdotal points, and "Adrian"'s responses to it, snipped>
>>
>>> Another Linux hater loose on the net and this guy is a real
>>> chatterbox. He's all over the bogs, talking about his horrible
>>> experience with Linux.
>>
>> So this person is a classic complainer.
>> It seems he wanted Linux to fail and did everything he could to assure
>> failure.
>
> Oh no! Someone wanting to paint Linux in a bad light! Say it ain't so!
eh? Linux paints itself in a bad light. Then "advocates" come along
> Adrian wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>> On 4/28/2012 10:40 AM, Foster wrote:
>>
>> <silly anecdotal points, and "Adrian"'s responses to it, snipped>
>>
>>> Another Linux hater loose on the net and this guy is a real
>>> chatterbox. He's all over the bogs, talking about his horrible
>>> experience with Linux.
>>
>> So this person is a classic complainer.
>> It seems he wanted Linux to fail and did everything he could to assure
>> failure.
>
> Oh no! Someone wanting to paint Linux in a bad light! Say it ain't so!
drooling that the bad light is not really there, you just have to have
the special blinder glasses they wear when using Linux.
>> Many people like Linux when they try it.
>> Those people are able to see past the lies of the paid Microsoft
>> propagandists though and form their own opinion.
>
> I still wonder if "Adrian" is just another sock puppet used to uncloak
> the posts of a known thick-as-shit-shilling troll.
the same continent.
Hadron
Apr 29, 2012, 5:37:53 AM4/29/12
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William Poaster <w...@induh-vidual.net> writes:
> Here is a facsimile from Chris Ahlstrom who, on 28/4/2012 17:14, wrote:
>
>> Adrian wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>>
>>> On 4/28/2012 10:40 AM, Foster wrote:
>>>
>>> <silly anecdotal points, and "Adrian"'s responses to it, snipped>
>>>
>>>> Another Linux hater loose on the net and this guy is a real
>>>> chatterbox. He's all over the bogs, talking about his horrible
>>>> experience with Linux.
>>>
>>> So this person is a classic complainer.
>>> It seems he wanted Linux to fail and did everything he could to assure
>>> failure.
>>
>> Oh no! Someone wanting to paint Linux in a bad light! Say it ain't so!
>>
>>> Many people like Linux when they try it.
>>> Those people are able to see past the lies of the paid Microsoft
>>> propagandists though and form their own opinion.
>>
>> I still wonder if "Adrian" is just another sock puppet used to uncloak
>> the posts of a known thick-as-shit-shilling troll.
>
> References: <1sjw5ty0t0kw8$.vild0asi9ogm$.d...@40tude.net>
> <4f9c15b1$0$24386$6e1e...@read.cnntp.org>
>
> Both are trolls. Apart from the "40tude.net" troll, there's a
> nymshifting troll posting through "read.cnntp.org", which I've had
> blocked for some time.
Hahahahhahahahahaha! Dumb Willy Poaster is TILL talking about his
> Here is a facsimile from Chris Ahlstrom who, on 28/4/2012 17:14, wrote:
>
>> Adrian wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>>
>>> On 4/28/2012 10:40 AM, Foster wrote:
>>>
>>> <silly anecdotal points, and "Adrian"'s responses to it, snipped>
>>>
>>>> Another Linux hater loose on the net and this guy is a real
>>>> chatterbox. He's all over the bogs, talking about his horrible
>>>> experience with Linux.
>>>
>>> So this person is a classic complainer.
>>> It seems he wanted Linux to fail and did everything he could to assure
>>> failure.
>>
>> Oh no! Someone wanting to paint Linux in a bad light! Say it ain't so!
>>
>>> Many people like Linux when they try it.
>>> Those people are able to see past the lies of the paid Microsoft
>>> propagandists though and form their own opinion.
>>
>> I still wonder if "Adrian" is just another sock puppet used to uncloak
>> the posts of a known thick-as-shit-shilling troll.
>
> References: <1sjw5ty0t0kw8$.vild0asi9ogm$.d...@40tude.net>
> <4f9c15b1$0$24386$6e1e...@read.cnntp.org>
>
> Both are trolls. Apart from the "40tude.net" troll, there's a
> nymshifting troll posting through "read.cnntp.org", which I've had
> blocked for some time.
pathetic killfiles?!?!? Was there ever a more useless poster to
usenet?!?!?!?
Kari Laine
May 2, 2012, 5:47:46 PM5/2/12
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On 04/28/2012 06:41 PM, Hadron wrote:
> Mark S Bilk<ma...@cosmicpenguin.com> writes:
>
>> On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 10:40:09 -0400, Foster wrote:
>>
>>> A close friend of mine has been talking about Linux.
>>
>> Then he tried it. And Linux blew up his computer, kicked
>> his dog, stole his pickup truck, and ran off with his wife!
>>
>> Linux also made him repost this old lying Flatfish article,
>> and Microsoft will pay him for doing it.
>>
>> ...With _your_ money, if you buy anything from Microsoft.
>
> No, with MS money if they sold something to him,/her.
>
> Are you really as retarded as you appear in your posts?
>
> Hint : you dont *have* to buy anything from MS. And many, including me,
> choose not to.
>
> You're a fuckwit of the highest order.
>
Well Hadron, you seem to hate Linux and now you say that you don't buy
anything from MS....and I have not seen you to mention that you use Mac.
How to hell you make your computing. Please how you can post here using
sticks and stones :-)
Kari
> Mark S Bilk<ma...@cosmicpenguin.com> writes:
>
>> On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 10:40:09 -0400, Foster wrote:
>>
>>> A close friend of mine has been talking about Linux.
>>
>> Then he tried it. And Linux blew up his computer, kicked
>> his dog, stole his pickup truck, and ran off with his wife!
>>
>> Linux also made him repost this old lying Flatfish article,
>> and Microsoft will pay him for doing it.
>>
>> ...With _your_ money, if you buy anything from Microsoft.
>
> No, with MS money if they sold something to him,/her.
>
> Are you really as retarded as you appear in your posts?
>
> Hint : you dont *have* to buy anything from MS. And many, including me,
> choose not to.
>
> You're a fuckwit of the highest order.
>
Well Hadron, you seem to hate Linux and now you say that you don't buy
anything from MS....and I have not seen you to mention that you use Mac.
How to hell you make your computing. Please how you can post here using
sticks and stones :-)
Kari
-hh
May 2, 2012, 6:08:48 PM5/2/12
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On May 2, 4:47 pm, Kari Laine <karitla...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On 04/28/2012 06:41 PM, Hadron wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Mark S Bilk<m...@cosmicpenguin.com> writes:
> On 04/28/2012 06:41 PM, Hadron wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
integrated hardware/software company, who still has support from major
vendors such as Adobe ... oh, and who also has a desktop market share
easily 5x that of Linux worldwide, and 15x in select Western markets.
-hh
OldGoat
May 2, 2012, 10:51:17 PM5/2/12
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Peter Köhlmann
May 3, 2012, 3:27:39 AM5/3/12
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dimbulb like Hadron Larry Snit could do it
William Poaster
May 3, 2012, 5:27:32 AM5/3/12
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"I'm a long term Windows user and programmer"
Hadron - alt.os.linux.ubuntu
Message-ID: <87y7hxd...@googlemail.com>
And:
"I have to update my Milestone from XP."
Hadron - alt.os.linux.ubuntu
Message-ID: <iapdfj$kv3$1...@news.eternal-september.org>
Furthermore, the first time "Hadron" was asking about using
emacs was in a *Windows* newsgroup.
--
Linux vs. Windows is a no-Win situation
I think we blew it!
-- Robert E. Lee after Gettysburg.--
DFS
May 3, 2012, 8:49:58 AM5/3/12
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Homer
May 3, 2012, 2:46:48 PM5/3/12
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Comrade Hadron of the Individualism Eradication Committee, mandated the
following Party Resolution:
infested with Microsoft's garbage without option, none of which are
actually made by that third-party software vendor. So why should nearly
every PC in the world be tied, without option or recourse, to a third
party that has nothing to do with those products?
If every make and model of lawnmower were "bundled" with just one make
and model of strimmer, without option or recourse, would you be happy
that you couldn't choose any other strimmer, in 99% of all stores
worldwide? Would you just shrug your shoulders and say "you don't have
to buy that strimmer ... because you don't have to buy a lawnmower"?
And if all the food in the world was monopolised by just one vicious
predator, would you say "you don't have to buy food" too?
That isn't as incredible as it might sound. Have you been paying
attention to what Monsanto is doing, for example? Are you also aware
that the Gates Fundation is one of Monsanto's biggest investors?
At what point will you stop making the "you don't have to buy" excuse,
and admit that consumers are in fact being corralled by monopolists, to
the point where it's increasingly difficult to satisfy one's individual
preferences?
Oh, but I forgot, totalitarians like you don't support individuality.
Sure, we "don't have to buy". We can all go back to living in straw huts
too. But why should we have to, just to avoid racketeers like Microsoft?
--
K. | "You see? You cannot kill me. There is no flesh
http://slated.org | and blood within this cloak to kill. There is
Fedora 8 (Werewolf) on šky | only an idea. And ideas are bulletproof."
kernel 2.6.31.5, up 86 days | ~ V for Vendetta.
following Party Resolution:
>
> Hint : you dont *have* to buy anything from MS. And many, including
> me, choose not to.
You mean no one has to buy a /PC/, since nearly every one of them is
> Hint : you dont *have* to buy anything from MS. And many, including
> me, choose not to.
infested with Microsoft's garbage without option, none of which are
actually made by that third-party software vendor. So why should nearly
every PC in the world be tied, without option or recourse, to a third
party that has nothing to do with those products?
If every make and model of lawnmower were "bundled" with just one make
and model of strimmer, without option or recourse, would you be happy
that you couldn't choose any other strimmer, in 99% of all stores
worldwide? Would you just shrug your shoulders and say "you don't have
to buy that strimmer ... because you don't have to buy a lawnmower"?
And if all the food in the world was monopolised by just one vicious
predator, would you say "you don't have to buy food" too?
That isn't as incredible as it might sound. Have you been paying
attention to what Monsanto is doing, for example? Are you also aware
that the Gates Fundation is one of Monsanto's biggest investors?
At what point will you stop making the "you don't have to buy" excuse,
and admit that consumers are in fact being corralled by monopolists, to
the point where it's increasingly difficult to satisfy one's individual
preferences?
Oh, but I forgot, totalitarians like you don't support individuality.
Sure, we "don't have to buy". We can all go back to living in straw huts
too. But why should we have to, just to avoid racketeers like Microsoft?
--
K. | "You see? You cannot kill me. There is no flesh
http://slated.org | and blood within this cloak to kill. There is
Fedora 8 (Werewolf) on šky | only an idea. And ideas are bulletproof."
kernel 2.6.31.5, up 86 days | ~ V for Vendetta.
Snit
May 3, 2012, 3:01:05 PM5/3/12
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On 5/3/12 11:46 AM, in article od0b79-...@sky.matrix, "Homer"
interpretation of the comments you are responding to.
In other words: you are lying. Just out and out making things up.
You are not being forced to buy *anything* from MS, whether you buy a PC or
not. You can buy a PC with software from MS, or you can buy a PC *without*
software from MS.
This is your *choice*. Choice. You have it. Exercise it and stop whining.
> since nearly every one of them is infested with Microsoft's garbage without
> option, none of which are actually made by that third-party software vendor.
> So why should nearly every PC in the world be tied, without option or
> recourse, to a third party that has nothing to do with those products?
It is called choice. Dell has the choice to include or not include what
they think will serve them and their customers well. Mostly that means
Windows, but even Shuttleworth has talked about how you can buy a Dell with
Ubuntu - and you have been shown pages on Dell's site where you can make
such purchases.
You *choose* to buy a computer with Windows and then you whine about your
own choice.
Well, grow up!
> If every make and model of lawnmower were "bundled" with just one make
> and model of strimmer, without option or recourse, would you be happy
> that you couldn't choose any other strimmer, in 99% of all stores
> worldwide? Would you just shrug your shoulders and say "you don't have
> to buy that strimmer ... because you don't have to buy a lawnmower"?
Irrelevant.
> And if all the food in the world was monopolised by just one vicious
> predator, would you say "you don't have to buy food" too?
Your boogieman is irrelevant.
> That isn't as incredible as it might sound. Have you been paying
> attention to what Monsanto is doing, for example? Are you also aware
> that the Gates Fundation is one of Monsanto's biggest investors?
This is irrelevant to your point about PCs.
> At what point will you stop making the "you don't have to buy" excuse,
> and admit that consumers are in fact being corralled by monopolists, to
> the point where it's increasingly difficult to satisfy one's individual
> preferences?
Make a choice and stop whining. Your boogieman does not control you. Or
me.
> Oh, but I forgot, totalitarians like you don't support individuality.
You are the one who is whining about your own choices.
> Sure, we "don't have to buy". We can all go back to living in straw huts
> too. But why should we have to, just to avoid racketeers like Microsoft?
We do not have to. You are simply making up idiotic stories.
PS: my computer came with *no* software from MS, at least as far as I know.
PS2: If your computer came with Linux or is running it now, it is using
software MS helped build - they were one of the top 20 contributors to Linux
last year.
--
Proof cc is clueless about his Xerox claims:
<http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/b8aa8b17d0a6dfde>
<use...@slated.org> wrote:
> Comrade Hadron of the Individualism Eradication Committee, mandated the
> following Party Resolution:
>>
>> Hint : you dont *have* to buy anything from MS. And many, including
>> me, choose not to.
>
> You mean no one has to buy a /PC/,
That is not at all what was said or meant and it is in no way a reasonable
> Comrade Hadron of the Individualism Eradication Committee, mandated the
> following Party Resolution:
>>
>> Hint : you dont *have* to buy anything from MS. And many, including
>> me, choose not to.
>
> You mean no one has to buy a /PC/,
interpretation of the comments you are responding to.
In other words: you are lying. Just out and out making things up.
You are not being forced to buy *anything* from MS, whether you buy a PC or
not. You can buy a PC with software from MS, or you can buy a PC *without*
software from MS.
This is your *choice*. Choice. You have it. Exercise it and stop whining.
> since nearly every one of them is infested with Microsoft's garbage without
> option, none of which are actually made by that third-party software vendor.
> So why should nearly every PC in the world be tied, without option or
> recourse, to a third party that has nothing to do with those products?
they think will serve them and their customers well. Mostly that means
Windows, but even Shuttleworth has talked about how you can buy a Dell with
Ubuntu - and you have been shown pages on Dell's site where you can make
such purchases.
You *choose* to buy a computer with Windows and then you whine about your
own choice.
Well, grow up!
> If every make and model of lawnmower were "bundled" with just one make
> and model of strimmer, without option or recourse, would you be happy
> that you couldn't choose any other strimmer, in 99% of all stores
> worldwide? Would you just shrug your shoulders and say "you don't have
> to buy that strimmer ... because you don't have to buy a lawnmower"?
> And if all the food in the world was monopolised by just one vicious
> predator, would you say "you don't have to buy food" too?
> That isn't as incredible as it might sound. Have you been paying
> attention to what Monsanto is doing, for example? Are you also aware
> that the Gates Fundation is one of Monsanto's biggest investors?
> At what point will you stop making the "you don't have to buy" excuse,
> and admit that consumers are in fact being corralled by monopolists, to
> the point where it's increasingly difficult to satisfy one's individual
> preferences?
me.
> Oh, but I forgot, totalitarians like you don't support individuality.
> Sure, we "don't have to buy". We can all go back to living in straw huts
> too. But why should we have to, just to avoid racketeers like Microsoft?
PS: my computer came with *no* software from MS, at least as far as I know.
PS2: If your computer came with Linux or is running it now, it is using
software MS helped build - they were one of the top 20 contributors to Linux
last year.
--
Proof cc is clueless about his Xerox claims:
<http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/b8aa8b17d0a6dfde>
DFS
May 3, 2012, 4:23:45 PM5/3/12
to
Not a thing, of course. Except your fear of going bankrupt when the
market ignores HomerOS in favor of Windows.
chrisv
May 3, 2012, 4:24:39 PM5/3/12
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> Hadron quacked:
It is not sufficient that it's *possible* to avoid M$ if one puts-in
enough effort or pays enough money, asshole.
It's still a fscked situation that herds the vast majority into the
Windows corral.
--
"The FACTS have shown that people are NOT moving to Linux." - "True
Linux advocate" Hadron Quark
>>
>> Hint : you dont *have* to buy anything from MS. And many, including
>> me, choose not to.
Hint: You're a Micro$oft-loving POS, "Hadron".
>> Hint : you dont *have* to buy anything from MS. And many, including
>> me, choose not to.
It is not sufficient that it's *possible* to avoid M$ if one puts-in
enough effort or pays enough money, asshole.
It's still a fscked situation that herds the vast majority into the
Windows corral.
--
"The FACTS have shown that people are NOT moving to Linux." - "True
Linux advocate" Hadron Quark
OldGoat
May 3, 2012, 5:37:57 PM5/3/12
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Foster
May 3, 2012, 7:33:02 PM5/3/12
to
Seriously, loosen the straps on your tin foil hat.
And BTW if Wlamart couldn't manage to sell Linux loaded systems to
the public in any number that counts, nobody can.
Face it, people just don't want or need Linux.
Foster
May 3, 2012, 7:33:55 PM5/3/12
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[Homer] has about as much chance of succeeding as an ice cube in the
middle of the Sahara.
Snit
May 3, 2012, 7:45:28 PM5/3/12
to
On 5/3/12 4:33 PM, in article 1cy1st6taj6xl$.mbbhqlvl...@40tude.net,
Right: Dell, Wal-Mart, HP, and many others have (and in some cases still do)
sell Linux pre-installed on machines. Sure, this is to some extent "MS
software" given how Microsoft was one of the top 20 contributors to Linux,
but since it is free it does not represent a single penny going to
Microsoft.
Homer is simply spewing nonsense. He wants to force (remove choice) from
those who sell machines and make them push an OS he happens to like but
which is clearly not ready for the mass market.
Yes: in the name of being "Free", Homer wants to eliminate choice and force
things on people. Utter force. In the past he has spoken of even using the
government to force his will on people to remove choices.
--
Proof of cc's bad faith: <http://goo.gl/a45Rm>
Until cc can be honest, there is no point in going forward with the
discussion he is begging me to have with him.
sell Linux pre-installed on machines. Sure, this is to some extent "MS
software" given how Microsoft was one of the top 20 contributors to Linux,
but since it is free it does not represent a single penny going to
Microsoft.
Homer is simply spewing nonsense. He wants to force (remove choice) from
those who sell machines and make them push an OS he happens to like but
which is clearly not ready for the mass market.
Yes: in the name of being "Free", Homer wants to eliminate choice and force
things on people. Utter force. In the past he has spoken of even using the
government to force his will on people to remove choices.
--
Proof of cc's bad faith: <http://goo.gl/a45Rm>
Until cc can be honest, there is no point in going forward with the
discussion he is begging me to have with him.
Snit
May 3, 2012, 7:53:55 PM5/3/12
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On 5/3/12 1:24 PM, in article v2q5q7pr2ce5j7tic...@4ax.com,
You are owed nothing and are not entitled to have your uncommon desires met
for free. Deal with it.
"chrisv" <chr...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>> Hadron quacked:
>>>
>>> Hint : you dont *have* to buy anything from MS. And many, including
>>> me, choose not to.
>
> Hint: You're a Micro$oft-loving POS, "Hadron".
>
> It is not sufficient that it's *possible* to avoid M$ if one puts-in
> enough effort or pays enough money, asshole.
>
> It's still a fscked situation that herds the vast majority into the
> Windows corral.
Utter BS. Buy what you want and stop whining.
>> Hadron quacked:
>>>
>>> Hint : you dont *have* to buy anything from MS. And many, including
>>> me, choose not to.
>
> Hint: You're a Micro$oft-loving POS, "Hadron".
>
> It is not sufficient that it's *possible* to avoid M$ if one puts-in
> enough effort or pays enough money, asshole.
>
> It's still a fscked situation that herds the vast majority into the
> Windows corral.
You are owed nothing and are not entitled to have your uncommon desires met
for free. Deal with it.
Snit
May 3, 2012, 7:55:33 PM5/3/12
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On 5/3/12 1:23 PM, in article jnupgi$t5u$3...@dont-email.me, "DFS"
Which, of course, they would.
And he need not even make his own OS. Use any desktop Linux distro he
wants. Companies do this... and they even do seemingly well serving the
tiny niche of people who want such.
But this is not enough for the herd. In the name of things being "Free"
they want to force choice. It is complete 1984 double-talk.
And he need not even make his own OS. Use any desktop Linux distro he
wants. Companies do this... and they even do seemingly well serving the
tiny niche of people who want such.
But this is not enough for the herd. In the name of things being "Free"
they want to force choice. It is complete 1984 double-talk.
Hadron
May 4, 2012, 6:55:47 AM5/4/12
to
minions, say turd, to help and call it "Homo Turd : the flush in the
pan distro". Done. New distro. Obviously for it to be a "real distro" he
should design his own packaging system and then spend ten years
configuring the dependencies.
JEDIDIAH
May 8, 2012, 10:49:46 AM5/8/12
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On 2012-04-29, Torre Starnes <torre....@gmail.org> wrote:
> On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 13:28:37 -0700 (PDT), -hh wrote:
>
>> On Apr 28, 11:07 am, Adrian <vostokhon...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> On 4/28/2012 10:40 AM, Foster wrote:
>>>
>>>> A close friend of mine has been talking about Linux, Android and how
>>>> the world will someday be dominated by Linux. The odd part is he
>>>> uses Windows and has an iPhone.
>>>
>>> Android already has 55 percent of the smart phone market. It's only a
>>> matter of time before it grows to 80 percent as the iPhone loses popularity.
>>
>> Android had a 55% share of sales back in 2011. And even then, that
>> was only on the "units sold" metric - not revenue, profits or even
>> usage.
>
> Seeing as there are a multitude of devices, that goes to figure.
> The problem with Android is that some of the devices are better than
> others. Much better in fact. Pick one of those devices and you will
> be happy. Pick one of the porkers and you will be miserable. Just
> read the reviews.
So you spend as much money as you want to spend for the level of
> On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 13:28:37 -0700 (PDT), -hh wrote:
>
>> On Apr 28, 11:07 am, Adrian <vostokhon...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> On 4/28/2012 10:40 AM, Foster wrote:
>>>
>>>> A close friend of mine has been talking about Linux, Android and how
>>>> the world will someday be dominated by Linux. The odd part is he
>>>> uses Windows and has an iPhone.
>>>
>>> Android already has 55 percent of the smart phone market. It's only a
>>> matter of time before it grows to 80 percent as the iPhone loses popularity.
>>
>> Android had a 55% share of sales back in 2011. And even then, that
>> was only on the "units sold" metric - not revenue, profits or even
>> usage.
>
> Seeing as there are a multitude of devices, that goes to figure.
> The problem with Android is that some of the devices are better than
> others. Much better in fact. Pick one of those devices and you will
> be happy. Pick one of the porkers and you will be miserable. Just
> read the reviews.
features you actually want rather than being stuck with the same
dreary Model-T as everyone else.
Such a tragedy comrade.
[deletia]
--
This is a consumer product. |||
World domination simply isn't necessary. / | \
JEDIDIAH
May 8, 2012, 10:48:09 AM5/8/12
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On 2012-04-28, -hh <recscub...@huntzinger.com> wrote:
> On Apr 28, 11:07 am, Adrian <vostokhon...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On 4/28/2012 10:40 AM, Foster wrote:
>>
>> > A close friend of mine has been talking about Linux, Android and how
>> > the world will someday be dominated by Linux. The odd part is he
>> > uses Windows and has an iPhone.
>>
>> Android already has 55 percent of the smart phone market. It's only a
>> matter of time before it grows to 80 percent as the iPhone loses popularity.
>
> Android had a 55% share of sales back in 2011. And even then, that
> was only on the "units sold" metric - not revenue, profits or even
> usage.
So? Why should anyone but the Apple board care about such a thing.
> On Apr 28, 11:07 am, Adrian <vostokhon...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On 4/28/2012 10:40 AM, Foster wrote:
>>
>> > A close friend of mine has been talking about Linux, Android and how
>> > the world will someday be dominated by Linux. The odd part is he
>> > uses Windows and has an iPhone.
>>
>> Android already has 55 percent of the smart phone market. It's only a
>> matter of time before it grows to 80 percent as the iPhone loses popularity.
>
> Android had a 55% share of sales back in 2011. And even then, that
> was only on the "units sold" metric - not revenue, profits or even
> usage.
[deletia]
That's like saying that Macs are the dominant computing platform.
JEDIDIAH
May 8, 2012, 10:46:16 AM5/8/12
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On 2012-04-28, Foster <frankf...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 12:07:06 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>
>> Foster wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>>
>>>
>>
>> Give it up, Flounder. It sounds more like a typical Windows story,
>> except the user thinks he has no other choice in the Windows story.
>
> Yea, the Windows that 90 percent of the earth uses.
...because MS-DOS was already dominant.
[deletia]
That's no GUI and manual memory management against an entire field
of compeitors including Apple that offered better and/or cheaper options.
> On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 12:07:06 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>
>> Foster wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>>
>>>
>>
>> Give it up, Flounder. It sounds more like a typical Windows story,
>> except the user thinks he has no other choice in the Windows story.
>
> Yea, the Windows that 90 percent of the earth uses.
...because MS-DOS was already dominant.
[deletia]
That's no GUI and manual memory management against an entire field
of compeitors including Apple that offered better and/or cheaper options.
-hh
May 8, 2012, 3:53:55 PM5/8/12
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On May 8, 9:48 am, JEDIDIAH <j...@nomad.mishnet> wrote:
claim what Board position they then must occupy?
Oh, that's right: if it is anti-anyone-not-Linux, the claim gets a
free pass....right?
Of course, there are actuly valid reasons why others - including
consumers - can/should care. Naturally, their concepts are beyond
you...
minor point. However, since it e
Wasn't, this isn't about Macs at all, but about how to run a viable
business venture....
-hh
> On 2012-04-28, -hh <recscuba_goo...@huntzinger.com> wrote:
>
> > On Apr 28, 11:07 am, Adrian <vostokhon...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> On 4/28/2012 10:40 AM, Foster wrote:
>
> >> > A close friend of mine has been talking about Linux, Android and how
> >> > the world will someday be dominated by Linux. The odd part is he
> >> > uses Windows and has an iPhone.
>
> >> Android already has 55 percent of the smart phone market. It's only a
> >> matter of time before it grows to 80 percent as the iPhone loses popularity.
>
> > Android had a 55% share of sales back in 2011. And even then, that
> > was only on the "units sold" metric - not revenue, profits or even
> > usage.
>
> So? Why should anyone but the Apple board care about such a thing.
>
Why not ask first the poster who was making the 80% market share
>
> > On Apr 28, 11:07 am, Adrian <vostokhon...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> On 4/28/2012 10:40 AM, Foster wrote:
>
> >> > A close friend of mine has been talking about Linux, Android and how
> >> > the world will someday be dominated by Linux. The odd part is he
> >> > uses Windows and has an iPhone.
>
> >> Android already has 55 percent of the smart phone market. It's only a
> >> matter of time before it grows to 80 percent as the iPhone loses popularity.
>
> > Android had a 55% share of sales back in 2011. And even then, that
> > was only on the "units sold" metric - not revenue, profits or even
> > usage.
>
> So? Why should anyone but the Apple board care about such a thing.
>
claim what Board position they then must occupy?
Oh, that's right: if it is anti-anyone-not-Linux, the claim gets a
free pass....right?
Of course, there are actuly valid reasons why others - including
consumers - can/should care. Naturally, their concepts are beyond
you...
> [deletia]
>
> That's like saying that Macs are the dominant computing platform.
If only that claim had actually been made, you *might* have had a
>
> That's like saying that Macs are the dominant computing platform.
minor point. However, since it e
Wasn't, this isn't about Macs at all, but about how to run a viable
business venture....
-hh
JEDIDIAH
May 9, 2012, 3:53:35 PM5/9/12
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On 2012-05-08, -hh <recscub...@huntzinger.com> wrote:
> On May 8, 9:48 am, JEDIDIAH <j...@nomad.mishnet> wrote:
>> On 2012-04-28, -hh <recscuba_goo...@huntzinger.com> wrote:
>>
>> > On Apr 28, 11:07 am, Adrian <vostokhon...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >> On 4/28/2012 10:40 AM, Foster wrote:
>>
>> >> > A close friend of mine has been talking about Linux, Android and how
>> >> > the world will someday be dominated by Linux. The odd part is he
>> >> > uses Windows and has an iPhone.
>>
>> >> Android already has 55 percent of the smart phone market. It's only a
>> >> matter of time before it grows to 80 percent as the iPhone loses popularity.
>>
>> > Android had a 55% share of sales back in 2011. And even then, that
>> > was only on the "units sold" metric - not revenue, profits or even
>> > usage.
>>
>> So? Why should anyone but the Apple board care about such a thing.
>>
>
> Why not ask first the poster who was making the 80% market share
> claim what Board position they then must occupy?
Marketshare relates to 3rd party support.
> On May 8, 9:48 am, JEDIDIAH <j...@nomad.mishnet> wrote:
>> On 2012-04-28, -hh <recscuba_goo...@huntzinger.com> wrote:
>>
>> > On Apr 28, 11:07 am, Adrian <vostokhon...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >> On 4/28/2012 10:40 AM, Foster wrote:
>>
>> >> > A close friend of mine has been talking about Linux, Android and how
>> >> > the world will someday be dominated by Linux. The odd part is he
>> >> > uses Windows and has an iPhone.
>>
>> >> Android already has 55 percent of the smart phone market. It's only a
>> >> matter of time before it grows to 80 percent as the iPhone loses popularity.
>>
>> > Android had a 55% share of sales back in 2011. And even then, that
>> > was only on the "units sold" metric - not revenue, profits or even
>> > usage.
>>
>> So? Why should anyone but the Apple board care about such a thing.
>>
>
> Why not ask first the poster who was making the 80% market share
> claim what Board position they then must occupy?
Per unit profit does not.
--
Apple: Being able to install Firefox or VLC makes you a power user. |||
/ | \
-hh
May 9, 2012, 6:41:38 PM5/9/12
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On May 9, 3:53 pm, JEDIDIAH <j...@nomad.mishnet> wrote:
> Per unit profit does not.
Doesn't ... what? Provide better assurances that a company will
survive to provide support?
-hh
> On 2012-05-08, -hh <recscuba_goo...@huntzinger.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On May 8, 9:48 am, JEDIDIAH <j...@nomad.mishnet> wrote:
> >> On 2012-04-28, -hh <recscuba_goo...@huntzinger.com> wrote:
>
> >> > On Apr 28, 11:07 am, Adrian <vostokhon...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> >> On 4/28/2012 10:40 AM, Foster wrote:
>
> >> >> > A close friend of mine has been talking about Linux, Android and how
> >> >> > the world will someday be dominated by Linux. The odd part is he
> >> >> > uses Windows and has an iPhone.
>
> >> >> Android already has 55 percent of the smart phone market. It's only a
> >> >> matter of time before it grows to 80 percent as the iPhone loses popularity.
>
> >> > Android had a 55% share of sales back in 2011. And even then, that
> >> > was only on the "units sold" metric - not revenue, profits or even
> >> > usage.
>
> >> So? Why should anyone but the Apple board care about such a thing.
>
> > Why not ask first the poster who was making the 80% market share
> > claim what Board position they then must occupy?
>
> Marketshare relates to 3rd party support.
Not if there's no money in it for them.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On May 8, 9:48 am, JEDIDIAH <j...@nomad.mishnet> wrote:
> >> On 2012-04-28, -hh <recscuba_goo...@huntzinger.com> wrote:
>
> >> > On Apr 28, 11:07 am, Adrian <vostokhon...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> >> On 4/28/2012 10:40 AM, Foster wrote:
>
> >> >> > A close friend of mine has been talking about Linux, Android and how
> >> >> > the world will someday be dominated by Linux. The odd part is he
> >> >> > uses Windows and has an iPhone.
>
> >> >> Android already has 55 percent of the smart phone market. It's only a
> >> >> matter of time before it grows to 80 percent as the iPhone loses popularity.
>
> >> > Android had a 55% share of sales back in 2011. And even then, that
> >> > was only on the "units sold" metric - not revenue, profits or even
> >> > usage.
>
> >> So? Why should anyone but the Apple board care about such a thing.
>
> > Why not ask first the poster who was making the 80% market share
> > claim what Board position they then must occupy?
>
> Marketshare relates to 3rd party support.
> Per unit profit does not.
survive to provide support?
-hh
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On 5/8/2012 9:46 AM, JEDIDIAH wrote:
> On 2012-04-28, Foster <frankf...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 12:07:06 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>
>>> Foster wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Give it up, Flounder. It sounds more like a typical Windows story,
>>> except the user thinks he has no other choice in the Windows story.
>>
>> Yea, the Windows that 90 percent of the earth uses.
>
> ...because MS-DOS was already dominant.
Thanks to the support of Big Blue.
> On 2012-04-28, Foster <frankf...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 12:07:06 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>
>>> Foster wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Give it up, Flounder. It sounds more like a typical Windows story,
>>> except the user thinks he has no other choice in the Windows story.
>>
>> Yea, the Windows that 90 percent of the earth uses.
>
> ...because MS-DOS was already dominant.
> [deletia]
>
> That's no GUI and manual memory management against an entire field
> of compeitors including Apple that offered better and/or cheaper options.
system with better ones from third parties. BlueMax for memory
management, and Norton Tools for a desktop GUI, for instance.
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