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monicastampfl <mfranc...@gmail.com> May 19 01:28PM -0700
All of us who have concerns about the audio prompts should go to the
AP French Community on the College board website and listen to the
audio prompts, especially source 3 and we should all express our
concern there! There is strength in numbers. The audio prompt is
nearly impossible for a non-native student to understand and the use
of such poor quality audiobyte on an official exam is despicable. If
we don't complain, nothing will be done. I just checked out the AP
Community there and a handfull of teachers have written comments.
Here are the links again
http://apcentral.collegeboard.com/apc/public/repository/ap12_frq_french_lang.pdf
http://apcentral.collegeboard.com/apc/members/exam/exam_information/219263.html
"Maurice Fouquette" <Maurice....@sd41.bc.ca> May 19 07:02PM -0700
Hi, Monica
I guess my question is this: which is the email address that we should send our complaints to? My students insist I lodge a formal complaint. I'd like them to read it first and offer input. But I want to be sure it's going to the right person? Can anyone help?
Maurice Fouquette
Burnaby, Canada
>>> monicastampfl <mfranc...@gmail.com> 05/19/12 1:28 PM >>>
All of us who have concerns about the audio prompts should go to the
AP French Community on the College board website and listen to the
audio prompts, especially source 3 and we should all express our
concern there! There is strength in numbers. The audio prompt is
nearly impossible for a non-native student to understand and the use
of such poor quality audiobyte on an official exam is despicable. If
we don't complain, nothing will be done. I just checked out the AP
Community there and a handfull of teachers have written comments.
Here are the links again
http://apcentral.collegeboard.com/apc/public/repository/ap12_frq_french_lang.pdf
http://apcentral.collegeboard.com/apc/members/exam/exam_information/219263.html
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cathy bouabre <cathy....@benlippen.com> May 19 12:48PM -0700
I plan to use Allons au dela this fall for AP French. As many of you
have been using the text this year, and while it is fresh in your
minds, could you give some advice as to how many chapters to plan to
cover in the school year; are there certain chapters that are
exceptionally I interesting; how and when should one use Ladd APFrench
book and/or the REA book? How much did you use other authentic
sources not in these books?
"Allen, Lisa" <all...@lmsd.org> May 19 05:34PM
Thanks James, Great suggestion. I just put a post on the AP French
webpage.
Lisa
Lucy Wise-Gladwell <lucyt...@hotmail.com> May 19 11:19AM -0400
There is no absolute right or wrong. You do what you feel benefits your students and what feels comfortable to you. I use movies fairly often, and I do many different things with them depending on the level and interest of the class. With a level 1or 2 I see no problem with using subtitles, then give vocabulary to re-tell the story in French. I just showed "Petit Nicolas " in level 2, with subtitles in English. We had vocabulary for each part, and we used parts of 3 classes to see it. The kids loved it. They kept track of the characters as the movie progressed, and wrote an outline of the conflicts and resolutions and added their own opinion of the movie at the end. They also divided the movie up into 8 scenes and acted it out, all in their level of French. They did a wonderful job. (I almost always let students act out scenes in their own French. They really jump into it!)
I do similar activities in higher level classes, but expect a more extensive output from them. I have never shown a movie entirely in French without subtitles! My students are in their 4th year at their highest level, and they would feel completely defeated by 2 hours of French! Remember too that movies often have slang, unfamiliar accents, improper grammar, etc., etc. I choose pieces to see without subtitles, or show sections with French subtitles, discuss what they think they heard, and then show the same scene with English subtitles so they see exactly what they got. They usually are proud to see what they understood, and then accept more pieces in French because they're "getting it".
I'm not trying to say "do what I do". What I'm saying is there are many ways to do a good job and you as the teacher are the best one to decide what works. Do your students look forward to movies? Do they use things they've learned from a movie in later work? Do they refer back to them in critical thinking activities? Then you're doing fine. Exhale and carry on....
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Pat Thibault <pthi...@msad51.org> May 19 11:33AM -0400
What a fine way to reassure and give thoughts at the same time. Well put!
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Elaine Burg <elain...@gmail.com> May 19 11:37AM -0400
That is an excellent response. Teaching strategies are not one size fits
all. I think keeping your objectives in mind will help guide you to how you
should present movies and their content within the context of your
classroom.
Elaine
Narine Hovhannissyan <narine.hov...@arm.qsi.org> May 19 09:32PM +0400
Thank you very much. That was very helpful and reassuring. As I said I use
many activities with the movies I show in class depending on my objectives.
But as I mentioned in my previous email, the problem is that that ESL
teacher is traying to make me feel wrong, while I have wonderfull results
with my students. I am working in an American school, which is functioning
in Armenia, and French is one of our foreign languages that we offer at
school. And I must say that probably out of 80students 45 are taking
French, which makes me believe that French department is doing much better
than 3 other languages offered. And I should say that Armenia is not a
francophone country. And I feel very confortable not stopping the movie for
every 15 min. as I am sure of my students abilities and interests. I may
sound very arrogant an furious at the same time, and I am always open to
suggestions and advises, but my students' results are more reassuring.
Thanks again for your responses.
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