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Sheryl Meservey
May 17, 2012, 12:06:50 PM5/17/12
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Does anyone know when the exam and audio files will be released? I would really like to hear the audio for the essay myself. Our proctor thought it would be posted to the College Board website within 2 days because that is what he was told for the Spanish test, but he wasn't positive.
Sheryl Meservey
French Teacher
Union High School
(360) 604-1001 X7337
sheryl....@evergreenps.org
________________________________________
From: ap-french-dis...@googlegroups.com [ap-french-dis...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Lucia, Elizabeth [elu...@visi.org]
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2012 8:57 AM
To: ap-french-dis...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: RE: [AP French]
Right? I just don't understand their logic.
On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 11:53 AM, Catherine Shriver <shri...@gmail.com<mailto:shri...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I shall, also. Why did the College Board NOT ensure that all the listening sections were clear? It would be absurd should they take the position that phone conversations are sometimes garbled. That's taking the realism too far!
On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 10:16 AM, Lucia, Elizabeth <elu...@visi.org<mailto:elu...@visi.org>> wrote:
My colleagues and I are definitely going to write a letter. Doesn't that seem worth doing?
Elizabeth Lucia
Georgetown Visitation Prep School
Washington, DC
On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 9:27 AM, Julia Fantoni <juliaf...@yahoo.com<mailto:juliaf...@yahoo.com>> wrote:
I'm just curious...is anybody going to complain to College Board about the listening that included the phone conversation? My colleague who proctored the exam told me I should seriously consider complaining...that it was extremely hard to understand.
Julia Fantoni
Baker High School
Mobile, AL
From: Toby Gillen <Gil...@bronxville.k12.ny.us<mailto:Gil...@bronxville.k12.ny.us>>
To: ap-french-dis...@googlegroups.com<mailto:ap-french-dis...@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 6:53 PM
Subject: Re: RE: [AP French]
Hi! My kids didn't say anything about the audio for the persuasive
essay, but they did say there was one line of the simulated dialogue
that they didn't understand and that the cd skipped a bit in the
computer lab. Ugh.
My biggest surprise hearing the feedback was how little there was that
was" francophone" outside of Europe. I thought this new exam was
supposed to incorporate the whole francophone world.
On verra!
*******************************
Toby Gillen
MS/HS French Teacher
Bronxville UFSD
177 Pondfield Road, Room B112
Bronxville, NY 10708
(914) 395-0500 x 2443<tel:%28914%29%20395-0500%20x%202443>
>>> "Townshend, Mrs. Rodica" <R.Tow...@severnschool.com<mailto:R.Tow...@severnschool.com>> 05/16/12
19:41 PM >>>
I had the same reaction from my students - said that the broadcast was
virtually impossible to understand.
Rodica Townshend
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[ap-french-dis...@googlegroups.com<mailto:ap-french-dis...@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of Michou
[conem...@gmail.com<mailto:conem...@gmail.com>]
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 6:54 PM
To: AP French Discussion Group
Subject: Re: [AP French]
I haven't heard the radio broadcast but My students have all told me
that it was almost impossible to understand because there seemed to be
a bad telephone connection. Some just went with the first 2 prompts,
while a few thought that, given that the interview was with the person
who had written the 1st prompt, this one would sort of agree with that
one.
J'attends vos commentaires avec impatience
Michou
On May 16, 6:37 pm, Elaine Burg <elaine.b...@gmail.com<mailto:elaine.b...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> Bonsoir a tous,
>
> Has anyone heard that the audio source for the persuasive essay was
> difficult to understand? It was a radio broadcast, but the person
speaking
> was on the phone. My students said it was difficult to understand due
to
> the noise from the phone connection.
>
> Elaine
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 6:31 PM, Julie Urena <julie_ur...@yahoo.com<mailto:julie_ur...@yahoo.com>>
wrote:
> > Bonjour a Tous et a Toutes,
>
> > My students felt pretty good about the AP exam, which is such a
relief.
> > All their hard work during the year paid off.
> > I have a question for you all. One of my students asked the proctor
if he
> > could use then restroom during the exam. Unfortunately she let him
go
> > during the LISTENING section !!!!!??? This seems highly irregular.
He said
> > it was not an emergency, so I am surprised she let him go. He missed
a
> > small portion of one of the audios but was able to hear it entirely
the
> > second time??? I am not sure what to do about this? Have you ever
had this
> > happen? I am not worried about the student because he is smart and
> > prepared...but I have never heard of a proctor letting a student go
to the
> > restroom. Are kids allowed to leave the exam room to use the
restroom? If
> > not, let this be a cautionary tale that proctors do not always
understand
> > the way it works.
>
> > Other than that.... I think things went well and I am so relieved. I
want
> > to thank my very special French teacher friends and colleagues here.
This
> > network has been a tremendous help and support. We did it!!!!
>
> > Have a great summer,
>
> > Julie Urena
> > Trinity Episcopal School
> > Richmond, Virginia
>
> > ------------------------------
> > * From: * James in Belgium <mnodo...@hotmail.com<mailto:mnodo...@hotmail.com>>;
> > * To: * AP French Discussion Group <
> > ap-french-dis...@googlegroups.com<mailto:ap-french-dis...@googlegroups.com>>;
> > * Subject: * [AP French] Re: French TV series that will interest
students
> > * Sent: * Tue, May 15, 2012 3:32:47 PM
>
> > Salutations:
>
> > Some of the French sitcoms in the list are now on You Tube.
> > As written in the fist post, "You Tube for most and also try Daily
> > Motion".
>
> > The Canadian sitcoms, very funny by the way as they share "American
> > humor", are subtitled in French here in Belgium and France. The
> > accent is quit a challenge, and the slang even more. Knowing
English
> > gives an advantage to understanding, "Cathérine", from Québec, over
> > that of French-only speakers.
>
> > On s'habitue à l'accent et à l'argot et aux anglicismes.
>
> > Bien à vous,
>
> > James O'
>
> > On May 14, 1:36 am, Julie Urena <julie_ur...@yahoo.com<mailto:julie_ur...@yahoo.com>> wrote:
> > > Great list James, but how can we watch them in the US?
>
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Sheryl Meservey
French Teacher
Union High School
(360) 604-1001 X7337
sheryl....@evergreenps.org
________________________________________
From: ap-french-dis...@googlegroups.com [ap-french-dis...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Lucia, Elizabeth [elu...@visi.org]
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2012 8:57 AM
To: ap-french-dis...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: RE: [AP French]
Right? I just don't understand their logic.
On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 11:53 AM, Catherine Shriver <shri...@gmail.com<mailto:shri...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I shall, also. Why did the College Board NOT ensure that all the listening sections were clear? It would be absurd should they take the position that phone conversations are sometimes garbled. That's taking the realism too far!
On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 10:16 AM, Lucia, Elizabeth <elu...@visi.org<mailto:elu...@visi.org>> wrote:
My colleagues and I are definitely going to write a letter. Doesn't that seem worth doing?
Elizabeth Lucia
Georgetown Visitation Prep School
Washington, DC
On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 9:27 AM, Julia Fantoni <juliaf...@yahoo.com<mailto:juliaf...@yahoo.com>> wrote:
I'm just curious...is anybody going to complain to College Board about the listening that included the phone conversation? My colleague who proctored the exam told me I should seriously consider complaining...that it was extremely hard to understand.
Julia Fantoni
Baker High School
Mobile, AL
From: Toby Gillen <Gil...@bronxville.k12.ny.us<mailto:Gil...@bronxville.k12.ny.us>>
To: ap-french-dis...@googlegroups.com<mailto:ap-french-dis...@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 6:53 PM
Subject: Re: RE: [AP French]
Hi! My kids didn't say anything about the audio for the persuasive
essay, but they did say there was one line of the simulated dialogue
that they didn't understand and that the cd skipped a bit in the
computer lab. Ugh.
My biggest surprise hearing the feedback was how little there was that
was" francophone" outside of Europe. I thought this new exam was
supposed to incorporate the whole francophone world.
On verra!
*******************************
Toby Gillen
MS/HS French Teacher
Bronxville UFSD
177 Pondfield Road, Room B112
Bronxville, NY 10708
(914) 395-0500 x 2443<tel:%28914%29%20395-0500%20x%202443>
>>> "Townshend, Mrs. Rodica" <R.Tow...@severnschool.com<mailto:R.Tow...@severnschool.com>> 05/16/12
19:41 PM >>>
I had the same reaction from my students - said that the broadcast was
virtually impossible to understand.
Rodica Townshend
________________________________________
From: ap-french-dis...@googlegroups.com<mailto:ap-french-dis...@googlegroups.com>
[ap-french-dis...@googlegroups.com<mailto:ap-french-dis...@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of Michou
[conem...@gmail.com<mailto:conem...@gmail.com>]
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 6:54 PM
To: AP French Discussion Group
Subject: Re: [AP French]
I haven't heard the radio broadcast but My students have all told me
that it was almost impossible to understand because there seemed to be
a bad telephone connection. Some just went with the first 2 prompts,
while a few thought that, given that the interview was with the person
who had written the 1st prompt, this one would sort of agree with that
one.
J'attends vos commentaires avec impatience
Michou
On May 16, 6:37 pm, Elaine Burg <elaine.b...@gmail.com<mailto:elaine.b...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> Bonsoir a tous,
>
> Has anyone heard that the audio source for the persuasive essay was
> difficult to understand? It was a radio broadcast, but the person
speaking
> was on the phone. My students said it was difficult to understand due
to
> the noise from the phone connection.
>
> Elaine
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 6:31 PM, Julie Urena <julie_ur...@yahoo.com<mailto:julie_ur...@yahoo.com>>
wrote:
> > Bonjour a Tous et a Toutes,
>
> > My students felt pretty good about the AP exam, which is such a
relief.
> > All their hard work during the year paid off.
> > I have a question for you all. One of my students asked the proctor
if he
> > could use then restroom during the exam. Unfortunately she let him
go
> > during the LISTENING section !!!!!??? This seems highly irregular.
He said
> > it was not an emergency, so I am surprised she let him go. He missed
a
> > small portion of one of the audios but was able to hear it entirely
the
> > second time??? I am not sure what to do about this? Have you ever
had this
> > happen? I am not worried about the student because he is smart and
> > prepared...but I have never heard of a proctor letting a student go
to the
> > restroom. Are kids allowed to leave the exam room to use the
restroom? If
> > not, let this be a cautionary tale that proctors do not always
understand
> > the way it works.
>
> > Other than that.... I think things went well and I am so relieved. I
want
> > to thank my very special French teacher friends and colleagues here.
This
> > network has been a tremendous help and support. We did it!!!!
>
> > Have a great summer,
>
> > Julie Urena
> > Trinity Episcopal School
> > Richmond, Virginia
>
> > ------------------------------
> > * From: * James in Belgium <mnodo...@hotmail.com<mailto:mnodo...@hotmail.com>>;
> > * To: * AP French Discussion Group <
> > ap-french-dis...@googlegroups.com<mailto:ap-french-dis...@googlegroups.com>>;
> > * Subject: * [AP French] Re: French TV series that will interest
students
> > * Sent: * Tue, May 15, 2012 3:32:47 PM
>
> > Salutations:
>
> > Some of the French sitcoms in the list are now on You Tube.
> > As written in the fist post, "You Tube for most and also try Daily
> > Motion".
>
> > The Canadian sitcoms, very funny by the way as they share "American
> > humor", are subtitled in French here in Belgium and France. The
> > accent is quit a challenge, and the slang even more. Knowing
English
> > gives an advantage to understanding, "Cathérine", from Québec, over
> > that of French-only speakers.
>
> > On s'habitue à l'accent et à l'argot et aux anglicismes.
>
> > Bien à vous,
>
> > James O'
>
> > On May 14, 1:36 am, Julie Urena <julie_ur...@yahoo.com<mailto:julie_ur...@yahoo.com>> wrote:
> > > Great list James, but how can we watch them in the US?
>
> > --
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Kristina J
May 17, 2012, 6:35:13 PM5/17/12
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The following was posted on the AP French Teacher Community recently:
Message from the College Board:
Some of you have asked when 2012 free-response questions will be
available on the College Board website. Free-response questions that
are released are posted to AP Central and the AP student site two days
after the exam, including weekends, after 4 pm. For example, Monday
exam questions are posted after 4 pm on Wednesday, Thursday exam
questions are posted after 4 pm on Saturday, and so on.
AP Central
http://apcentral.collegeboard.com/apc/public/exam/exam_information/index.html
AP student site
http://www.collegeboard.com/student/testing/ap/subjects.html
Reminder: Please check the College Board website before discussing
any free-response questions. Only the specific questions released on
the website may be discussed. As in past years, free-response
questions from alternate exams taken during the late-testing period
are not released, and may not be discussed.
Sincerely,
Advanced Placement Program
On May 17, 9:06 am, Sheryl Meservey <Sheryl.Meser...@evergreenps.org>
wrote:
> For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/ap-french-discussion-group?hl=en.
Message from the College Board:
Some of you have asked when 2012 free-response questions will be
available on the College Board website. Free-response questions that
are released are posted to AP Central and the AP student site two days
after the exam, including weekends, after 4 pm. For example, Monday
exam questions are posted after 4 pm on Wednesday, Thursday exam
questions are posted after 4 pm on Saturday, and so on.
AP Central
http://apcentral.collegeboard.com/apc/public/exam/exam_information/index.html
AP student site
http://www.collegeboard.com/student/testing/ap/subjects.html
Reminder: Please check the College Board website before discussing
any free-response questions. Only the specific questions released on
the website may be discussed. As in past years, free-response
questions from alternate exams taken during the late-testing period
are not released, and may not be discussed.
Sincerely,
Advanced Placement Program
On May 17, 9:06 am, Sheryl Meservey <Sheryl.Meser...@evergreenps.org>
wrote:
> Does anyone know when the exam and audio files will be released? I would really like to hear the audio for the essay myself. Our proctor thought it would be posted to the College Board website within 2 days because that is what he was told for the Spanish test, but he wasn't positive.
>
> Sheryl Meservey
> French Teacher
> Union High School
> (360) 604-1001 X7337
> sheryl.meser...@evergreenps.org
>
> Sheryl Meservey
> French Teacher
> Union High School
> (360) 604-1001 X7337
> ________________________________________
> From: ap-french-dis...@googlegroups.com [ap-french-dis...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Lucia, Elizabeth [elu...@visi.org]
> Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2012 8:57 AM
> To: ap-french-dis...@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: RE: [AP French]
>
> Right? I just don't understand their logic.
>
> From: ap-french-dis...@googlegroups.com [ap-french-dis...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Lucia, Elizabeth [elu...@visi.org]
> Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2012 8:57 AM
> To: ap-french-dis...@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: RE: [AP French]
>
> Right? I just don't understand their logic.
>
> On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 11:53 AM, Catherine Shriver <shri2...@gmail.com<mailto:shri2...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> I shall, also. Why did the College Board NOT ensure that all the listening sections were clear? It would be absurd should they take the position that phone conversations are sometimes garbled. That's taking the realism too far!
>
> On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 10:16 AM, Lucia, Elizabeth <elu...@visi.org<mailto:elu...@visi.org>> wrote:
>
> My colleagues and I are definitely going to write a letter. Doesn't that seem worth doing?
>
> Elizabeth Lucia
> Georgetown Visitation Prep School
> Washington, DC
>
> I shall, also. Why did the College Board NOT ensure that all the listening sections were clear? It would be absurd should they take the position that phone conversations are sometimes garbled. That's taking the realism too far!
>
> On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 10:16 AM, Lucia, Elizabeth <elu...@visi.org<mailto:elu...@visi.org>> wrote:
>
> My colleagues and I are definitely going to write a letter. Doesn't that seem worth doing?
>
> Elizabeth Lucia
> Georgetown Visitation Prep School
> Washington, DC
>
> On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 9:27 AM, Julia Fantoni <juliafant...@yahoo.com<mailto:juliafant...@yahoo.com>> wrote:
> I'm just curious...is anybody going to complain to College Board about the listening that included the phone conversation? My colleague who proctored the exam told me I should seriously consider complaining...that it was extremely hard to understand.
>
> Julia Fantoni
> Baker High School
> Mobile, AL
>
> I'm just curious...is anybody going to complain to College Board about the listening that included the phone conversation? My colleague who proctored the exam told me I should seriously consider complaining...that it was extremely hard to understand.
>
> Julia Fantoni
> Baker High School
> Mobile, AL
>
> From: Toby Gillen <Gill...@bronxville.k12.ny.us<mailto:Gill...@bronxville.k12.ny.us>>
> To: ap-french-dis...@googlegroups.com<mailto:ap-french-dis...@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 6:53 PM
> Subject: Re: RE: [AP French]
>
> Hi! My kids didn't say anything about the audio for the persuasive
> essay, but they did say there was one line of the simulated dialogue
> that they didn't understand and that the cd skipped a bit in the
> computer lab. Ugh.
>
> My biggest surprise hearing the feedback was how little there was that
> was" francophone" outside of Europe. I thought this new exam was
> supposed to incorporate the whole francophone world.
>
> On verra!
>
> *******************************
> Toby Gillen
> MS/HS French Teacher
> Bronxville UFSD
> 177 Pondfield Road, Room B112
> Bronxville, NY 10708
> (914) 395-0500 x 2443<tel:%28914%29%20395-0500%20x%202443>>>> "Townshend, Mrs. Rodica" <R.Townsh...@severnschool.com<mailto:R.Townsh...@severnschool.com>> 05/16/12
> To: ap-french-dis...@googlegroups.com<mailto:ap-french-dis...@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 6:53 PM
> Subject: Re: RE: [AP French]
>
> Hi! My kids didn't say anything about the audio for the persuasive
> essay, but they did say there was one line of the simulated dialogue
> that they didn't understand and that the cd skipped a bit in the
> computer lab. Ugh.
>
> My biggest surprise hearing the feedback was how little there was that
> was" francophone" outside of Europe. I thought this new exam was
> supposed to incorporate the whole francophone world.
>
> On verra!
>
> *******************************
> Toby Gillen
> MS/HS French Teacher
> Bronxville UFSD
> 177 Pondfield Road, Room B112
> Bronxville, NY 10708
>
> 19:41 PM >>>
> I had the same reaction from my students - said that the broadcast was
> virtually impossible to understand.
>
> Rodica Townshend
> ________________________________________
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> [ap-french-dis...@googlegroups.com<mailto:ap-french-dis...@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of Michou
> [conemich...@gmail.com<mailto:conemich...@gmail.com>]
> 19:41 PM >>>
> I had the same reaction from my students - said that the broadcast was
> virtually impossible to understand.
>
> Rodica Townshend
> ________________________________________
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Merci. I listened to the French audio prompts as well as Spanish. I can tell you that the Spanish ones were much much slower and extremely clear. The audio for the French was just the opposite. Our students are definitely at a disadvantage when there is so much of a difference in the level of difficulty.
sheryl....@evergreenps.org
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Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2012 3:35 PM
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Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2012 3:35 PM
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Subject: [AP French] Re: Released Exam
Julie Urena
May 17, 2012, 7:12:17 PM5/17/12
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Dagmar Ebaugh
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It's posted (the site clearly states "within 2 days after the test, after 4pm"...
Check at http://apcentral.collegeboard.com/apc/members/exam/exam_information/4559.html
ps - also please CLIP your messages so all the appended (non-related) content doesn't clog up the messages.
MERCI!
Dagmar
On Thursday, May 17, 2012 12:06:50 PM UTC-4, Sheryl M wrote:
Check at http://apcentral.collegeboard.com/apc/members/exam/exam_information/4559.html
ps - also please CLIP your messages so all the appended (non-related) content doesn't clog up the messages.
MERCI!
Dagmar
On Thursday, May 17, 2012 12:06:50 PM UTC-4, Sheryl M wrote:
Does anyone know when the exam and audio files will be released? I would really like to hear the audio for the essay myself. Our proctor thought it would be posted to the College Board website within 2 days because that is what he was told for the Spanish test, but he wasn't positive.
Sheryl Meservey
French Teacher
Union High School
(360) 604-1001 X7337
sheryl.meservey@evergreenps.org
________________________________________
Jeanne Federovitch
May 17, 2012, 10:45:01 PM5/17/12
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And people wonder why I don't push my students to pay $80 To test.......
>>> Sheryl Meservey <Sheryl....@evergreenps.org> 05/17/12 15:58 PM
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From: ap-french-dis...@googlegroups.com
[ap-french-dis...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kristina J
[framb...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2012 3:35 PM
> > > gives an advantage to understanding, "Cath�rine", from Qu�bec,
>
> > > Bien � vous,
>>> Sheryl Meservey <Sheryl....@evergreenps.org> 05/17/12 15:58 PM
>>>
Merci. I listened to the French audio prompts as well as Spanish. I
can tell you that the Spanish ones were much much slower and extremely
clear. The audio for the French was just the opposite. Our students
are definitely at a disadvantage when there is so much of a difference
in the level of difficulty.
sheryl....@evergreenps.org
Merci. I listened to the French audio prompts as well as Spanish. I
can tell you that the Spanish ones were much much slower and extremely
clear. The audio for the French was just the opposite. Our students
are definitely at a disadvantage when there is so much of a difference
in the level of difficulty.
________________________________________
From: ap-french-dis...@googlegroups.com
[ap-french-dis...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kristina J
[framb...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2012 3:35 PM
To: AP French Discussion Group
Subject: [AP French] Re: Released Exam
The following was posted on the AP French Teacher Community recently:
Message from the College Board:
Some of you have asked when 2012 free-response questions will be
available on the College Board website. Free-response questions that
are released are posted to AP Central and the AP student site two days
after the exam, including weekends, after 4 pm. For example, Monday
exam questions are posted after 4 pm on Wednesday, Thursday exam
questions are posted after 4 pm on Saturday, and so on.
AP Central
http://apcentral.collegeboard.com/apc/public/exam/exam_information/index.html
AP student site
http://www.collegeboard.com/student/testing/ap/subjects.html
Reminder: Please check the College Board website before discussing
any free-response questions. Only the specific questions released on
the website may be discussed. As in past years, free-response
questions from alternate exams taken during the late-testing period
are not released, and may not be discussed.
Sincerely,
Advanced Placement Program
On May 17, 9:06 am, Sheryl Meservey <Sheryl.Meser...@evergreenps.org>
Message from the College Board:
Some of you have asked when 2012 free-response questions will be
available on the College Board website. Free-response questions that
are released are posted to AP Central and the AP student site two days
after the exam, including weekends, after 4 pm. For example, Monday
exam questions are posted after 4 pm on Wednesday, Thursday exam
questions are posted after 4 pm on Saturday, and so on.
AP Central
http://apcentral.collegeboard.com/apc/public/exam/exam_information/index.html
AP student site
http://www.collegeboard.com/student/testing/ap/subjects.html
Reminder: Please check the College Board website before discussing
any free-response questions. Only the specific questions released on
the website may be discussed. As in past years, free-response
questions from alternate exams taken during the late-testing period
are not released, and may not be discussed.
Sincerely,
Advanced Placement Program
On May 17, 9:06 am, Sheryl Meservey <Sheryl.Meser...@evergreenps.org>
wrote:
> Does anyone know when the exam and audio files will be released? I
would really like to hear the audio for the essay myself. Our proctor
thought it would be posted to the College Board website within 2 days
because that is what he was told for the Spanish test, but he wasn't
positive.
>
> Sheryl Meservey
> French Teacher
> Union High School
> (360) 604-1001 X7337
> Does anyone know when the exam and audio files will be released? I
would really like to hear the audio for the essay myself. Our proctor
thought it would be posted to the College Board website within 2 days
because that is what he was told for the Spanish test, but he wasn't
positive.
>
> Sheryl Meservey
> French Teacher
> Union High School
> (360) 604-1001 X7337
over
> > > that of French-only speakers.
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> > > On s'habitue � l'accent et � l'argot et aux anglicismes.
> > > that of French-only speakers.
>
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> > > Bien � vous,
>
> > > James O'
>
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Kendra Paupst
May 17, 2012, 11:00:17 PM5/17/12
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Dear Dagmar and all,
Thanks for sharing the links for the audio files. Here is the link for the corresponding Spanish audio files if anyone else wants to compare them. I found it profoundly depressing to hear how much easier the Spanish audio is.
I also found it interesting that the Spanish exam instructs students : "Now press record to start the recorder" in clear American English, while our French students and proctors had to listen for "Maintenant appuyez sur record."
I thought one of the justifications for creating this new Language and Culture exam was to create more consistency among the different language exams. Were others under this impression as well?
Best,
Thanks for sharing the links for the audio files. Here is the link for the corresponding Spanish audio files if anyone else wants to compare them. I found it profoundly depressing to hear how much easier the Spanish audio is.
I also found it interesting that the Spanish exam instructs students : "Now press record to start the recorder" in clear American English, while our French students and proctors had to listen for "Maintenant appuyez sur record."
I thought one of the justifications for creating this new Language and Culture exam was to create more consistency among the different language exams. Were others under this impression as well?
Best,
Moller, Regina
May 18, 2012, 8:09:05 AM5/18/12
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FYI And so it goes…..
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Franca Gilbert
May 18, 2012, 8:32:43 AM5/18/12
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Wow. Huge difference. I could understand the Spanish, even though I do not speak Spanish, only Italian.
Thank you for providing the links. It is a real eye opener.
Franca Gilbert
Franca Gilbert
French Teacher, NHS Advisor
Franklin Academy High School
648 Flaherty Avenue
Wake Forest, NC 27587
Julie Urena
May 18, 2012, 9:21:11 AM5/18/12
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I just listened to the two audios. Big difference in quality. Maybe the people who write the Spanish exam can evaluate and collaborate with the people who write the French one; that way there will be some consistency in the two. Judging from the sound quality, the Spanish exam was written by people who want to ensure success not impede it.
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Subject: Re: [AP French] Re: Released Exam
Susan Schmidt
May 18, 2012, 9:56:07 AM5/18/12
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I was just trying to listen...did they remove it....I only heard the
directions and if you click on the link, it is 17 minutes long...much
longer than the time they promised?
directions and if you click on the link, it is 17 minutes long...much
longer than the time they promised?
Kristina J
May 18, 2012, 11:51:52 AM5/18/12
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You have to click on Spanish audio, it's mislabeled. But yes, the
whole file is 17 minutes, you have to skip past the instructions and
blank space because there's like a minute to read the intro, then 6
minutes to read the text, then a minute to read the audio intro, then
the audio.
On May 18, 6:56 am, Susan Schmidt <susan.noahs...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I was just trying to listen...did they remove it....I only heard the
> directions and if you click on the link, it is 17 minutes long...much
> longer than the time they promised?
>
whole file is 17 minutes, you have to skip past the instructions and
blank space because there's like a minute to read the intro, then 6
minutes to read the text, then a minute to read the audio intro, then
the audio.
On May 18, 6:56 am, Susan Schmidt <susan.noahs...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I was just trying to listen...did they remove it....I only heard the
> directions and if you click on the link, it is 17 minutes long...much
> longer than the time they promised?
>
> On 5/18/12, Julie Urena <julie_ur...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > I just listened to the two audios. Big difference in quality. Maybe the
> > people who write the Spanish exam can evaluate and collaborate with the
> > people who write the French one; that way there will be some consistency in
> > the two. Judging from the sound quality, the Spanish exam was written by
> > people who want to ensure success not impede it.
>
> > ________________________________
> > From: Kendra Paupst <kpau...@gmail.com>
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> > I just listened to the two audios. Big difference in quality. Maybe the
> > people who write the Spanish exam can evaluate and collaborate with the
> > people who write the French one; that way there will be some consistency in
> > the two. Judging from the sound quality, the Spanish exam was written by
> > people who want to ensure success not impede it.
>
> > ________________________________
James in Belgium
May 18, 2012, 2:46:03 PM5/18/12
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Dearest AP French teachers,
Please keep in mind, that the current Spanish AP language exam is not
yet equal, not in parity, with the new French and German exams.
The Spanish teachers will start the new Spanish exam curriculum for
2012-2013 with a new syllabus starting this next school year.
We will have real justification to complain in 2013, if we find a
significant difference in quality of audio between the two languages,
at that time. And, has any one attempted to listen to the German
audio prompts?
I do agree with you, my students reported that a radio talk show with
a participant who calls in, increased the level of difficulty, due to
the audio distortion incurred from the phone call to the radio
station.
The persons responsible for the final selection of exam items are at
fault. I am sure the test item committee selected the best audio
samples.
Cordialement,
James O'Donnell
Belgium
Please keep in mind, that the current Spanish AP language exam is not
yet equal, not in parity, with the new French and German exams.
The Spanish teachers will start the new Spanish exam curriculum for
2012-2013 with a new syllabus starting this next school year.
We will have real justification to complain in 2013, if we find a
significant difference in quality of audio between the two languages,
at that time. And, has any one attempted to listen to the German
audio prompts?
I do agree with you, my students reported that a radio talk show with
a participant who calls in, increased the level of difficulty, due to
the audio distortion incurred from the phone call to the radio
station.
The persons responsible for the final selection of exam items are at
fault. I am sure the test item committee selected the best audio
samples.
Cordialement,
James O'Donnell
Belgium
monicastampfl
May 19, 2012, 4:28:04 PM5/19/12
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All of us who have concerns about the audio prompts should go to the
AP French Community on the College board website and listen to the
audio prompts, especially source 3 and we should all express our
concern there! There is strength in numbers. The audio prompt is
nearly impossible for a non-native student to understand and the use
of such poor quality audiobyte on an official exam is despicable. If
we don't complain, nothing will be done. I just checked out the AP
Community there and a handfull of teachers have written comments.
Here are the links again
http://apcentral.collegeboard.com/apc/public/repository/ap12_frq_french_lang.pdf
http://apcentral.collegeboard.com/apc/members/exam/exam_information/219263.html
AP French Community on the College board website and listen to the
audio prompts, especially source 3 and we should all express our
concern there! There is strength in numbers. The audio prompt is
nearly impossible for a non-native student to understand and the use
of such poor quality audiobyte on an official exam is despicable. If
we don't complain, nothing will be done. I just checked out the AP
Community there and a handfull of teachers have written comments.
Here are the links again
http://apcentral.collegeboard.com/apc/public/repository/ap12_frq_french_lang.pdf
http://apcentral.collegeboard.com/apc/members/exam/exam_information/219263.html
Maurice Fouquette
May 19, 2012, 10:02:46 PM5/19/12
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Hi, Monica
I guess my question is this: which is the email address that we should send our complaints to? My students insist I lodge a formal complaint. I'd like them to read it first and offer input. But I want to be sure it's going to the right person? Can anyone help?
Maurice Fouquette
Burnaby, Canada
>>> monicastampfl <mfranc...@gmail.com> 05/19/12 1:28 PM >>>
I guess my question is this: which is the email address that we should send our complaints to? My students insist I lodge a formal complaint. I'd like them to read it first and offer input. But I want to be sure it's going to the right person? Can anyone help?
Maurice Fouquette
Burnaby, Canada
>>> monicastampfl <mfranc...@gmail.com> 05/19/12 1:28 PM >>>
Dagmar Ebaugh
May 20, 2012, 11:54:59 AM5/20/12
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I actually went and listened to the German material.
1) the audio source for the PERSUASIVE ESSAY is not posted. The instructions are there, and the guidance that student has 6 min to read the 2 written sources, but not the audio prompt? Oversight maybe?
2) the instructions to PRESS RECORD for the speaking tasks was also ONLY IN GERMAN here (so maybe next year in Spanish it will also only be in Spanish). Although it doesn't make sense, since the proctors are often NON-speakers of the language and wouldn't know when to start the recording on a centralized recording language lab. ** this needs to be fixed for all exams!**
I wish the essay audio for German were posted... I would love to be able to compare the quality.
I found links to the original podcast from which it was taken, but in each case, the actual sound file was gone.
When I read the text though it sounded quite challenging since there was a TON of 'argot' / slang used. That can be tough, I imagine, for High School Students. The topic had to do with people choosing to live at home while studying vs. living alone/in a dorm/w/roommates.
Dagmar
1) the audio source for the PERSUASIVE ESSAY is not posted. The instructions are there, and the guidance that student has 6 min to read the 2 written sources, but not the audio prompt? Oversight maybe?
2) the instructions to PRESS RECORD for the speaking tasks was also ONLY IN GERMAN here (so maybe next year in Spanish it will also only be in Spanish). Although it doesn't make sense, since the proctors are often NON-speakers of the language and wouldn't know when to start the recording on a centralized recording language lab. ** this needs to be fixed for all exams!**
I wish the essay audio for German were posted... I would love to be able to compare the quality.
I found links to the original podcast from which it was taken, but in each case, the actual sound file was gone.
When I read the text though it sounded quite challenging since there was a TON of 'argot' / slang used. That can be tough, I imagine, for High School Students. The topic had to do with people choosing to live at home while studying vs. living alone/in a dorm/w/roommates.
Dagmar
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