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Gunner Asch
May 21, 2013, 7:11:57 PM5/21/13
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https://picasaweb.google.com/104042282269066802602/May212013?authkey=Gv1sRgCLWlwezt7crmFw#
My house..and the empty lot next door.
I am in negotiations with the owner to purchase the empty lot.
However...it would appear that in 2011 I pissed off a fellow down the
street over a dog issue..that my dog wasnt even involved in. So he
made a complaint with the county. I was notified by the inspector of
it in 2011..and told to keep it cleaned up etc and nothing more was
said.
Suddenly..on May 10..I get a 7 day warning from the county. New lady
inspector..who has little empathy. She claims that cargo containers
are a "no no" here in the unencorporated part of the county (dispite
them being all over the place) . So I had 7 days to pull it out. So I
mowed, cleaned the lot again, removed a boat and a trailer and put it
as the photos show.
She said I was "illegally dumping"..despite having the owners
permission. So this morning..she shows up with 2 deputies and advises
me that I have until 2pm Wed afternoon (24 hrs) to clean the lot off
else Id be cited for "illegally dumping" and the county would clean
off the lot.
Im scrambling to find a place to put the cargo container...but the
forklift is still down, Ive got ZERO money to move it or to fix the
forklift.
I called and left a message with the supervisor and one with her that
Im working on it..but need 30 days.
Now what are my options?
California of course.
In a dying area where there are more empty lots with for sale then
Carter has pills. The last photo is of a typical lot in the area.
Gunner
--
"You guess the truth hurts?
Really?
"Hurt" aint the word.
For Liberals, the truth is like salt to a slug.
Sunlight to a vampire.
Raid® to a cockroach.
Sheriff Brody to a shark
Bush to a Liberal
The truth doesn't just hurt. It's painful, like a red hot poker shoved
up their ass. Like sliding down a hundred foot razor blade using their
dick as a brake.
They HATE the truth."
A trout in the milk
May 21, 2013, 7:18:37 PM5/21/13
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On 5/21/2013 4:11 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
>
> https://picasaweb.google.com/104042282269066802602/May212013?authkey=Gv1sRgCLWlwezt7crmFw#
>
> My house..and the empty lot next door.
>
> I am in negotiations with the owner to purchase the empty lot.
>
> However...it would appear that in 2011 I pissed off a fellow down the
> street over a dog issue..that my dog wasnt even involved in. So he
> made a complaint with the county. I was notified by the inspector of
> it in 2011..and told to keep it cleaned up etc and nothing more was
> said.
>
> Suddenly..on May 10..I get a 7 day warning from the county. New lady
> inspector..who has little empathy. She claims that cargo containers
> are a "no no" here in the unencorporated part of the county (dispite
> them being all over the place) . So I had 7 days to pull it out. So I
> mowed, cleaned the lot again, removed a boat and a trailer and put it
> as the photos show.
>
> She said I was "illegally dumping"..despite having the owners
> permission. So this morning..she shows up with 2 deputies and advises
> me that I have until 2pm Wed afternoon (24 hrs) to clean the lot off
> else Id be cited for "illegally dumping" and the county would clean
> off the lot.
>
> Im scrambling to find a place to put the cargo container...but the
> forklift is still down, Ive got ZERO money to move it or to fix the
> forklift.
Why don't you move it with the backhoe, fuckstain?
>
> https://picasaweb.google.com/104042282269066802602/May212013?authkey=Gv1sRgCLWlwezt7crmFw#
>
> My house..and the empty lot next door.
>
> I am in negotiations with the owner to purchase the empty lot.
>
> However...it would appear that in 2011 I pissed off a fellow down the
> street over a dog issue..that my dog wasnt even involved in. So he
> made a complaint with the county. I was notified by the inspector of
> it in 2011..and told to keep it cleaned up etc and nothing more was
> said.
>
> Suddenly..on May 10..I get a 7 day warning from the county. New lady
> inspector..who has little empathy. She claims that cargo containers
> are a "no no" here in the unencorporated part of the county (dispite
> them being all over the place) . So I had 7 days to pull it out. So I
> mowed, cleaned the lot again, removed a boat and a trailer and put it
> as the photos show.
>
> She said I was "illegally dumping"..despite having the owners
> permission. So this morning..she shows up with 2 deputies and advises
> me that I have until 2pm Wed afternoon (24 hrs) to clean the lot off
> else Id be cited for "illegally dumping" and the county would clean
> off the lot.
>
> Im scrambling to find a place to put the cargo container...but the
> forklift is still down, Ive got ZERO money to move it or to fix the
> forklift.
How are you going to "purchase" the lot next door if you have "zero"
money, fuckstain?
> I called and left a message with the supervisor and one with her that
> Im working on it..but need 30 days.
>
> Now what are my options?
Frank
May 21, 2013, 7:20:00 PM5/21/13
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A trout in the milk
May 21, 2013, 7:21:12 PM5/21/13
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On 5/21/2013 4:11 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
>
> https://picasaweb.google.com/104042282269066802602/May212013?authkey=Gv1sRgCLWlwezt7crmFw#
One of the pics:
>
> https://picasaweb.google.com/104042282269066802602/May212013?authkey=Gv1sRgCLWlwezt7crmFw#
https://picasaweb.google.com/104042282269066802602/May212013?authkey=Gv1sRgCLWlwezt7crmFw#5880566556315784290
Caption: "View down the alley from the street. My property line is at
the white fence. The slum next to it belongs to latinos..who dont live
there." It is indistinguishable from your slum lot, gummer...you stupid
pendejo.
A trout in the milk
May 21, 2013, 7:22:12 PM5/21/13
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CS
May 21, 2013, 7:32:23 PM5/21/13
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"Gunner Asch" wrote in message
news:g4vnp81742jnk5dkn...@4ax.com...
https://picasaweb.google.com/104042282269066802602/May212013?authkey=Gv1sRgCLWlwezt7crmFw#
My house..and the empty lot next door.
<snip>
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
When you talk to the supervisor, if they aren't agreeable to 30 days,
request they cite the section of the municipal code you are supposedly
violating. Actually, ask they cite it anyway, so that you can make sure you
don't violate it again.
In reality, if they can't cite it, they can't enforce it.
Also, see if there's a way you can get a permit for it.
If none of that works, you may be able to file a complaint for selective
enforcement. You can take snapshots of the neighborhood, as well as
printouts of Google Maps, to support your claim.
You really don't want to go to war with the county. You will lose.
However, government worker types tend to be a bit paranoid about their jobs,
and if their boss gets annoyed over their actions, those actions will stop.
After all, they're pretty much just there for a paycheck, and don't care one
wit about your container. The last thing they want to do is more work.
Last resort, go to court and file a request for a stay of action. It
shouldn't be too much trouble requesting a fee waiver.
Second last resort, cover it with tarps and call it an RV. If they come on
to your property and look under the tarps without your permission, you'll
have cause for a civil rights lawsuit, after which you can buy half the
county.
Good luck!
CS
news:g4vnp81742jnk5dkn...@4ax.com...
https://picasaweb.google.com/104042282269066802602/May212013?authkey=Gv1sRgCLWlwezt7crmFw#
My house..and the empty lot next door.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
When you talk to the supervisor, if they aren't agreeable to 30 days,
request they cite the section of the municipal code you are supposedly
violating. Actually, ask they cite it anyway, so that you can make sure you
don't violate it again.
In reality, if they can't cite it, they can't enforce it.
Also, see if there's a way you can get a permit for it.
If none of that works, you may be able to file a complaint for selective
enforcement. You can take snapshots of the neighborhood, as well as
printouts of Google Maps, to support your claim.
You really don't want to go to war with the county. You will lose.
However, government worker types tend to be a bit paranoid about their jobs,
and if their boss gets annoyed over their actions, those actions will stop.
After all, they're pretty much just there for a paycheck, and don't care one
wit about your container. The last thing they want to do is more work.
Last resort, go to court and file a request for a stay of action. It
shouldn't be too much trouble requesting a fee waiver.
Second last resort, cover it with tarps and call it an RV. If they come on
to your property and look under the tarps without your permission, you'll
have cause for a civil rights lawsuit, after which you can buy half the
county.
Good luck!
CS
deep
May 21, 2013, 7:34:09 PM5/21/13
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On Tue, 21 May 2013 16:11:57 -0700, Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Is anyone shocked that all of Gummer's neigbors hate him?
wrote:
Gunner Asch
May 21, 2013, 8:13:45 PM5/21/13
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Oh...of course you havent. You cant even make it up the stairs to the
ground floor of your momma house.
>
>How are you going to "purchase" the lot next door if you have "zero"
>money, fuckstain?
What...you never heard of time payments? Oh of course you havent. You
>How are you going to "purchase" the lot next door if you have "zero"
>money, fuckstain?
cant make such for HoHos and Dr Pepper can you, jizzlips.
>
>
>
>> I called and left a message with the supervisor and one with her that
>> Im working on it..but need 30 days.
>>
>> Now what are my options?
>
>I would begin by ceasing to bullshit, if I were you.
never going to happen..is it jizzlips?
--
"You guess the truth hurts?
Really?
"Hurt" aint the word.
For Liberals, the truth is like salt to a slug.
Sunlight to a vampire.
Gunner Asch
May 21, 2013, 8:14:24 PM5/21/13
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Laugh laugh laugh!
Gunner Asch
May 21, 2013, 8:14:59 PM5/21/13
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>>> Sheriff Brody to a shark
>>> Bush to a Liberal
>>>
>>> The truth doesn't just hurt. It's painful, like a red hot poker shoved
>>> up their ass. Like sliding down a hundred foot razor blade using their
>>> dick as a brake.
>>>
>>> They HATE the truth."
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Place does look like a dump.
>
>It's a dump. The entire block is a dump. The entire section is a dump.
The opinion of a basement dweller..is noted with great amusement.
>>> Bush to a Liberal
>>>
>>> The truth doesn't just hurt. It's painful, like a red hot poker shoved
>>> up their ass. Like sliding down a hundred foot razor blade using their
>>> dick as a brake.
>>>
>>> They HATE the truth."
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Place does look like a dump.
>
>It's a dump. The entire block is a dump. The entire section is a dump.
Gunner
--
"You guess the truth hurts?
Really?
"Hurt" aint the word.
For Liberals, the truth is like salt to a slug.
Sunlight to a vampire.
Gunner Asch
May 21, 2013, 8:15:49 PM5/21/13
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Gunner
--
"You guess the truth hurts?
Really?
"Hurt" aint the word.
For Liberals, the truth is like salt to a slug.
Sunlight to a vampire.
deep
May 21, 2013, 8:27:48 PM5/21/13
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On Tue, 21 May 2013 17:14:24 -0700, Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com>
wrote:
I live in the country and it doesn't look like the shithole Gummer
has.
>Laugh laugh laugh!
wrote:
has.
>Laugh laugh laugh!
Gunner Asch
May 21, 2013, 8:29:12 PM5/21/13
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On Tue, 21 May 2013 16:32:23 -0700, "CS" <dont...@sears.com> wrote:
>"Gunner Asch" wrote in message
>news:g4vnp81742jnk5dkn...@4ax.com...
>
>
>https://picasaweb.google.com/104042282269066802602/May212013?authkey=Gv1sRgCLWlwezt7crmFw#
>
>My house..and the empty lot next door.
>
><snip>
>
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>When you talk to the supervisor, if they aren't agreeable to 30 days,
>request they cite the section of the municipal code you are supposedly
>violating. Actually, ask they cite it anyway, so that you can make sure you
>don't violate it again.
The code they gave me was "dumping trash"..and its obviously not
>"Gunner Asch" wrote in message
>news:g4vnp81742jnk5dkn...@4ax.com...
>
>
>https://picasaweb.google.com/104042282269066802602/May212013?authkey=Gv1sRgCLWlwezt7crmFw#
>
>My house..and the empty lot next door.
>
><snip>
>
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>When you talk to the supervisor, if they aren't agreeable to 30 days,
>request they cite the section of the municipal code you are supposedly
>violating. Actually, ask they cite it anyway, so that you can make sure you
>don't violate it again.
trash. They use it evidently as a catch all.
>
Its an unencorporated county area...."nominally" zoned R-1..but has
had many construction companies and oil field maint companies so on
based out of "residential" lots. My area of town was once privately
owned by a trust ..and it desolved about 8-10 yrs ago. Some of the
lots were sold to the home owners...others..were sold out from under
them.
>In reality, if they can't cite it, they can't enforce it.
>
>Also, see if there's a way you can get a permit for it.
>
>If none of that works, you may be able to file a complaint for selective
>enforcement. You can take snapshots of the neighborhood, as well as
>printouts of Google Maps, to support your claim.
I may have to do that. She (inspector) claims to have 300+ issues for
>If none of that works, you may be able to file a complaint for selective
>enforcement. You can take snapshots of the neighborhood, as well as
>printouts of Google Maps, to support your claim.
those around the area...backlogged and trying to look good for her
boss. Ive tried to work nicely with her and have been eversohelpful.
>
>You really don't want to go to war with the county. You will lose.
>However, government worker types tend to be a bit paranoid about their jobs,
>and if their boss gets annoyed over their actions, those actions will stop.
>After all, they're pretty much just there for a paycheck, and don't care one
>wit about your container. The last thing they want to do is more work.
>
>Last resort, go to court and file a request for a stay of action. It
>shouldn't be too much trouble requesting a fee waiver.
>
>Second last resort, cover it with tarps and call it an RV. If they come on
>to your property and look under the tarps without your permission, you'll
>have cause for a civil rights lawsuit, after which you can buy half the
>county.
>
>Good luck!
>
>CS
>
So what do I do if I get cited for "illegal dumping"?
>You really don't want to go to war with the county. You will lose.
>However, government worker types tend to be a bit paranoid about their jobs,
>and if their boss gets annoyed over their actions, those actions will stop.
>After all, they're pretty much just there for a paycheck, and don't care one
>wit about your container. The last thing they want to do is more work.
>
>Last resort, go to court and file a request for a stay of action. It
>shouldn't be too much trouble requesting a fee waiver.
>
>Second last resort, cover it with tarps and call it an RV. If they come on
>to your property and look under the tarps without your permission, you'll
>have cause for a civil rights lawsuit, after which you can buy half the
>county.
>
>Good luck!
>
>CS
>
Lawyers cost money.
A trout in the milk
May 21, 2013, 8:30:36 PM5/21/13
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shit) *out* of the container, congenital liar - you said you were trying
to move the container itself.
>>
>> How are you going to "purchase" the lot next door if you have "zero"
>> money, fuckstain?
>
> What...you never heard of time payments?
payment, without two nickels to rub together to pay any closing costs?
Someone with no money to pay an appraisal fee or title transfer fee?
No, gummer - no one believes you have any means of buying that
shit-strewn lot. Of course, you would immediately default on the taxes
for it, too.
>>
>>> I called and left a message with the supervisor and one with her that
>>> Im working on it..but need 30 days.
>>>
>>> Now what are my options?
>>
>> I would begin by ceasing to bullshit, if I were you.
>
> If you were me..you would be an honorable conservative.
living in poverty, filth, squalor and abject moral degradation. I'm not
any of those, gummer.
A trout in the milk
May 21, 2013, 8:31:05 PM5/21/13
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whoyakidding's ghost
May 21, 2013, 8:32:27 PM5/21/13
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On Tue, 21 May 2013 16:11:57 -0700, Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com>
wrote:
>
that you insisted you already owned?
"the empty lot I own to the left." "Im going to put up a
30x50 steel building on the empty lot to the left of the house."
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.home.repair/msg/745fd34b5e5a19a9
"the other two lots that I own..right next to mine..and behind mine."
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.econ/msg/01785581c332e034
How fucking ridiculous.
> However...it would appear that in 2011 I pissed off a fellow down the
>street over a dog issue..
Gosh, what a shock that a neighbor would be pissed about your herd of
barking dogs!
>that my dog wasnt even involved in. So he
>made a complaint with the county. I was notified by the inspector of
>it in 2011..and told to keep it cleaned up etc and nothing more was
>said.
>
>Suddenly..on May 10..I get a 7 day warning from the county.
No, not suddenly. Just typical slow as molasses county workers. Maybe
they could afford to hire more energetic people if deadbeats like you
would pay their damned taxes.
> New lady
>inspector..who has little empathy.
Maybe she looked up your name in their records, and found out about
all the liens her employer has been slapping on you, and how few
you've paid over the last 3 decades.
Maybe she Googled your name. http://tinyurl.com/op5nlcz And found out
that you're a pathological liar and correctly assumed that anything
you told her was horseshit. Ya think?
> She claims that cargo containers
>are a "no no" here in the unencorporated part of the county (dispite
>them being all over the place) . So I had 7 days to pull it out. So I
>mowed, cleaned the lot again, removed a boat and a trailer and put it
>as the photos show.
>
> She said I was "illegally dumping"..despite having the owners
>permission. So this morning..she shows up with 2 deputies
Bwahahahaha! Aren't these the deputies you claim to be on great terms
with, used to be one of for 8 years, have over for dinner all the
time, etc, and who you've repeatedly insisted will be pitching in on
the great cull? I guess these two were leftist outliers eh Gunner? Did
you tell them you were going to add their names to your death list?
> and advises
>me that I have until 2pm Wed afternoon (24 hrs) to clean the lot off
>else Id be cited for "illegally dumping" and the county would clean
>off the lot.
>
>Im scrambling to find a place to put the cargo container...but the
>forklift is still down,
No problem, use the backhoe you just finished claiming you have all
fueled up!
> Ive got ZERO money to move it or to fix the
>forklift.
... yet you claim to be negotiating to buy the property!
>I called and left a message with the supervisor and one with her that
>Im working on it..but need 30 days.
Hmm, 30 days at $75 per hour. That forklift must need a lot of work!
arf arf
>Now what are my options?
Build a time machine, go back a couple decades, quit hoarding dogs and
crap. If that doesn't work, then quit lying and maybe somebody will
take pity on you.
>California of course.
>
>In a dying area where there are more empty lots with for sale then
>Carter has pills. The last photo is of a typical lot in the area.
How many times have you claimed to be living in the ideal rightard
area? OK then, put your story on Kickstarter and watch all the funding
pour in from those great neighbors!
wrote:
>
>https://picasaweb.google.com/104042282269066802602/May212013?authkey=Gv1sRgCLWlwezt7crmFw#
>
>My house..and the empty lot next door.
>
> I am in negotiations with the owner to purchase the empty lot.
What are you going to use for money? Why would you be buying a lot
>
>My house..and the empty lot next door.
>
> I am in negotiations with the owner to purchase the empty lot.
that you insisted you already owned?
"the empty lot I own to the left." "Im going to put up a
30x50 steel building on the empty lot to the left of the house."
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.home.repair/msg/745fd34b5e5a19a9
"the other two lots that I own..right next to mine..and behind mine."
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.econ/msg/01785581c332e034
How fucking ridiculous.
> However...it would appear that in 2011 I pissed off a fellow down the
>street over a dog issue..
barking dogs!
>that my dog wasnt even involved in. So he
>made a complaint with the county. I was notified by the inspector of
>it in 2011..and told to keep it cleaned up etc and nothing more was
>said.
>
>Suddenly..on May 10..I get a 7 day warning from the county.
they could afford to hire more energetic people if deadbeats like you
would pay their damned taxes.
> New lady
>inspector..who has little empathy.
all the liens her employer has been slapping on you, and how few
you've paid over the last 3 decades.
Maybe she Googled your name. http://tinyurl.com/op5nlcz And found out
that you're a pathological liar and correctly assumed that anything
you told her was horseshit. Ya think?
> She claims that cargo containers
>are a "no no" here in the unencorporated part of the county (dispite
>them being all over the place) . So I had 7 days to pull it out. So I
>mowed, cleaned the lot again, removed a boat and a trailer and put it
>as the photos show.
>
> She said I was "illegally dumping"..despite having the owners
>permission. So this morning..she shows up with 2 deputies
with, used to be one of for 8 years, have over for dinner all the
time, etc, and who you've repeatedly insisted will be pitching in on
the great cull? I guess these two were leftist outliers eh Gunner? Did
you tell them you were going to add their names to your death list?
> and advises
>me that I have until 2pm Wed afternoon (24 hrs) to clean the lot off
>else Id be cited for "illegally dumping" and the county would clean
>off the lot.
>
>Im scrambling to find a place to put the cargo container...but the
>forklift is still down,
fueled up!
> Ive got ZERO money to move it or to fix the
>forklift.
>I called and left a message with the supervisor and one with her that
>Im working on it..but need 30 days.
arf arf
>Now what are my options?
crap. If that doesn't work, then quit lying and maybe somebody will
take pity on you.
>California of course.
>
>In a dying area where there are more empty lots with for sale then
>Carter has pills. The last photo is of a typical lot in the area.
area? OK then, put your story on Kickstarter and watch all the funding
pour in from those great neighbors!
A trout in the milk
May 21, 2013, 8:32:42 PM5/21/13
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On 5/21/2013 5:14 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
>>>> Sheriff Brody to a shark
>>>> Bush to a Liberal
>>>>
>>>> The truth doesn't just hurt. It's painful, like a red hot poker shoved
>>>> up their ass. Like sliding down a hundred foot razor blade using their
>>>> dick as a brake.
>>>>
>>>> They HATE the truth."
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Place does look like a dump.
>>
>> It's a dump. The entire block is a dump. The entire section is a dump.
>
> The opinion of
No, not mere "opinion", gummer. I've driven by your shithole of a squat
>>>> Bush to a Liberal
>>>>
>>>> The truth doesn't just hurt. It's painful, like a red hot poker shoved
>>>> up their ass. Like sliding down a hundred foot razor blade using their
>>>> dick as a brake.
>>>>
>>>> They HATE the truth."
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Place does look like a dump.
>>
>> It's a dump. The entire block is a dump. The entire section is a dump.
>
> The opinion of
and I've posted pictures of it here. The place is methhead central.
It's a reeking shithole. You live in a shithole because you're a
dole-scrounging shitbag.
whoyakidding's ghost
May 21, 2013, 8:36:28 PM5/21/13
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On Tue, 21 May 2013 17:29:12 -0700, Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com>
wrote:
>Lawyers cost money.
Not according to you. You claimed to have one who's a friend who'll
work for free. Why are you wasting time here when you could be calling
him? LOL
wrote:
>Lawyers cost money.
Not according to you. You claimed to have one who's a friend who'll
work for free. Why are you wasting time here when you could be calling
him? LOL
A trout in the milk
May 21, 2013, 8:37:28 PM5/21/13
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On 5/21/2013 5:32 PM, whoyakidding's ghost wrote:
> On Tue, 21 May 2013 16:11:57 -0700, Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> https://picasaweb.google.com/104042282269066802602/May212013?authkey=Gv1sRgCLWlwezt7crmFw#
>>
>> My house..and the empty lot next door.
>>
>> I am in negotiations with the owner to purchase the empty lot.
>
> What are you going to use for money? Why would you be buying a lot
> that you insisted you already owned?
>
> "the empty lot I own to the left." "Im going to put up a
> 30x50 steel building on the empty lot to the left of the house."
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.home.repair/msg/745fd34b5e5a19a9
>
> "the other two lots that I own..right next to mine..and behind mine."
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.econ/msg/01785581c332e034
>
> How fucking ridiculous.
Haw haw haw haw haw! That's excellent!
> On Tue, 21 May 2013 16:11:57 -0700, Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> https://picasaweb.google.com/104042282269066802602/May212013?authkey=Gv1sRgCLWlwezt7crmFw#
>>
>> My house..and the empty lot next door.
>>
>> I am in negotiations with the owner to purchase the empty lot.
>
> What are you going to use for money? Why would you be buying a lot
> that you insisted you already owned?
>
> "the empty lot I own to the left." "Im going to put up a
> 30x50 steel building on the empty lot to the left of the house."
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.home.repair/msg/745fd34b5e5a19a9
>
> "the other two lots that I own..right next to mine..and behind mine."
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.econ/msg/01785581c332e034
>
> How fucking ridiculous.
Michael A. Terrell
May 21, 2013, 9:04:23 PM5/21/13
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best way to fight petty bureaucrats is to publicly embarrass them.
Gunner Asch
May 21, 2013, 9:17:30 PM5/21/13
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>>>> Sheriff Brody to a shark
>>>> Bush to a Liberal
>>>>
>>>> The truth doesn't just hurt. It's painful, like a red hot poker shoved
>>>> up their ass. Like sliding down a hundred foot razor blade using their
>>>> dick as a brake.
>>>>
>>>> They HATE the truth."
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Place does look like a dump.
>>
>> Of course it does.
>
>Right: you're a neighbor.
So why not come on over and we can check out the backhoe and see how
>>>> Bush to a Liberal
>>>>
>>>> The truth doesn't just hurt. It's painful, like a red hot poker shoved
>>>> up their ass. Like sliding down a hundred foot razor blade using their
>>>> dick as a brake.
>>>>
>>>> They HATE the truth."
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Place does look like a dump.
>>
>> Of course it does.
>
>Right: you're a neighbor.
deep it will dig?
Gunner
--
"You guess the truth hurts?
Really?
"Hurt" aint the word.
For Liberals, the truth is like salt to a slug.
Sunlight to a vampire.
A trout in the milk
May 21, 2013, 9:27:59 PM5/21/13
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>>>>> Sheriff Brody to a shark
>>>>> Bush to a Liberal
>>>>>
>>>>> The truth doesn't just hurt. It's painful, like a red hot poker shoved
>>>>> up their ass. Like sliding down a hundred foot razor blade using their
>>>>> dick as a brake.
>>>>>
>>>>> They HATE the truth."
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Place does look like a dump.
>>>
>>> Of course it does.
>>
>> Right: you're a neighbor.
>
> So why not come on over and we can check out the backhoe and see how
> deep it will dig?
You don't have a backhoe.
>>>>> Bush to a Liberal
>>>>>
>>>>> The truth doesn't just hurt. It's painful, like a red hot poker shoved
>>>>> up their ass. Like sliding down a hundred foot razor blade using their
>>>>> dick as a brake.
>>>>>
>>>>> They HATE the truth."
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Place does look like a dump.
>>>
>>> Of course it does.
>>
>> Right: you're a neighbor.
>
> So why not come on over and we can check out the backhoe and see how
> deep it will dig?
Maybe the next time I'm driving to northern California, I'll swing by
and take some pictures to prove it.
Paul K. Dickman
May 21, 2013, 9:34:24 PM5/21/13
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"Gunner Asch" <gunne...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:g4vnp81742jnk5dkn...@4ax.com...
>
I am not sure how the procedure is in your neck of the woods, but once they
write you a citation, you get a court date.
Do what you can, if anything requires a permit put in an application right
now.
You have to make some real progress. Call a scrapper and sell by the pound.
When the court date comes have plenty of evidence that shows real progress,
and ask for an extension.
But take two warnings. Do not try to bullshit them, everyone tries and they
expect it. They are more receptive to a straight answer. And realize that
they will make you do it eventually. The fines keep adding up until the
liens on your property is more than it is worth.
Oh, and clean up your neighbors lot first.
Permission or not, your junk has put him in a trick bag.
Paul K. Dickman
A trout in the milk
May 21, 2013, 9:36:31 PM5/21/13
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> I am not sure how the procedure is in your neck of the woods, but once they
> write you a citation, you get a court date.
>
> Do what you can, if anything requires a permit put in an application right
> now.
> You have to make some real progress. Call a scrapper and sell by the pound.
>
> When the court date comes have plenty of evidence that shows real progress,
> and ask for an extension.
> But take two warnings. Do not try to bullshit them, everyone tries and they
> expect it.
it's what he does more than anything, and it's his first resort.
> They are more receptive to a straight answer. And realize that
> they will make you do it eventually. The fines keep adding up until the
> liens on your property is more than it is worth.
Gunner Asch
May 21, 2013, 9:42:20 PM5/21/13
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You mean you posted photos like these?
https://picasaweb.google.com/104042282269066802602/May212013?authkey=Gv1sRgCLWlwezt7crmFw#
Please point out the "shit hole " aspects if you would be so kind.
Ill glady look at them again.
A trout in the milk
May 21, 2013, 9:48:32 PM5/21/13
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On 5/21/2013 6:42 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
> On Tue, 21 May 2013 17:32:42 -0700, A trout in the milk
> <jonbanq�eer@y�hoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>>>>> Place does look like a dump.
>>>>
>>>> It's a dump. The entire block is a dump. The entire section is a dump.
>>>
>>> The opinion of
>>
>> No, not mere "opinion", gummer. I've driven by your shithole of a squat
>> and I've posted pictures of it here. The place is methhead central.
>> It's a reeking shithole. You live in a shithole because you're a
>> dole-scrounging shitbag.
>
> What photos did you post?
The ones I took of your shithole a couple of years ago on an earlier
> On Tue, 21 May 2013 17:32:42 -0700, A trout in the milk
> <jonbanq�eer@y�hoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>>>>> Place does look like a dump.
>>>>
>>>> It's a dump. The entire block is a dump. The entire section is a dump.
>>>
>>> The opinion of
>>
>> No, not mere "opinion", gummer. I've driven by your shithole of a squat
>> and I've posted pictures of it here. The place is methhead central.
>> It's a reeking shithole. You live in a shithole because you're a
>> dole-scrounging shitbag.
>
> What photos did you post?
drive-by.
whoyakidding's ghost
May 21, 2013, 9:49:47 PM5/21/13
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On Tue, 21 May 2013 21:04:23 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
<mike.t...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>Gunner Asch wrote:
>>
>> The code they gave me was "dumping trash"..and its obviously not
>> trash. They use it evidently as a catch all.
<mike.t...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>Gunner Asch wrote:
>>
>> The code they gave me was "dumping trash"..and its obviously not
>> trash. They use it evidently as a catch all.
> Call a TV station and ask for their investigative TV reporter. The
>best way to fight petty bureaucrats is to publicly embarrass them.
LOL That's a GREAT idea, because the reporter will never report that
>best way to fight petty bureaucrats is to publicly embarrass them.
trash dumper Gunner hasn't been paying his taxes for decades.
yesit'sashithole
May 21, 2013, 9:54:26 PM5/21/13
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On Tue, 21 May 2013 18:42:20 -0700, Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com>
wrote:
>On Tue, 21 May 2013 17:32:42 -0700, A trout in the milk
><jonbanqüeer@yähoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>>>>> Place does look like a dump.
>>>>
>>>> It's a dump. The entire block is a dump. The entire section is a dump.
>>>
>>> The opinion of
>>
>>No, not mere "opinion", gummer. I've driven by your shithole of a squat
>>and I've posted pictures of it here. The place is methhead central.
>>It's a reeking shithole. You live in a shithole because you're a
>>dole-scrounging shitbag.
>
>What photos did you post?
>
>You mean you posted photos like these?
>
>https://picasaweb.google.com/104042282269066802602/May212013?authkey=Gv1sRgCLWlwezt7crmFw#
>
>
>Please point out the "shit hole " aspects if you would be so kind.
It's a fucking dump. Shitty looking double wides. Trashy looking
trailers and storage containers. Crappy looking, collapsing fences.
Trashed empty lots. Not a bit of green grass anywhere. Definately a
lower class neighborhood. Definately a shit hole.
wrote:
>On Tue, 21 May 2013 17:32:42 -0700, A trout in the milk
><jonbanqüeer@yähoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>>>>> Place does look like a dump.
>>>>
>>>> It's a dump. The entire block is a dump. The entire section is a dump.
>>>
>>> The opinion of
>>
>>No, not mere "opinion", gummer. I've driven by your shithole of a squat
>>and I've posted pictures of it here. The place is methhead central.
>>It's a reeking shithole. You live in a shithole because you're a
>>dole-scrounging shitbag.
>
>What photos did you post?
>
>You mean you posted photos like these?
>
>https://picasaweb.google.com/104042282269066802602/May212013?authkey=Gv1sRgCLWlwezt7crmFw#
>
>
>Please point out the "shit hole " aspects if you would be so kind.
trailers and storage containers. Crappy looking, collapsing fences.
Trashed empty lots. Not a bit of green grass anywhere. Definately a
lower class neighborhood. Definately a shit hole.
Gunner Asch
May 21, 2013, 9:59:16 PM5/21/13
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5x10 Brunswick "Admiral" snooker table, with new felt, new pockets,
snooker and 8 ball sets, etc etc?
Tig welder? Airco 250 Squarewave, on a custom cart, with Bernard
water chiller, new WP 120 torch and all the accessories? How much is
it worth? Lets see if you know anything.
220/440 3ph transformers...45kva What are they worth?
Victor copy of the Hardinge DV-59, complete and tuned. Turret, cross
slide, coolant and 100 lbs ot tooling for it? Nice paint too. How
much?
Oster pipe threader on cart, with all dies from 1/4-20 -3" pipe? Gimme
your best price estimate.
Airco PhaseArch 350 Mig, complete and ready to go, in nice cosmetic
condition...but its 3ph. Whats it worth? Hummm?
All that and more are in that container. Along with a years supply of
oats/rice/dried beans, 250 lbs of canned salt, 20 lbs of pepper etc
etc ...all in #10 cans from an LDS cannery. Probably 150 cans in
crates. Best estimate is? Do try your best jizzlips. Please.
>
>>>
>>> How are you going to "purchase" the lot next door if you have "zero"
>>> money, fuckstain?
>>
>> What...you never heard of time payments?
>
>You mean you have some sucker willing to "sell" you a lot without a down
>payment, without two nickels to rub together to pay any closing costs?
>Someone with no money to pay an appraisal fee or title transfer fee?
Of course. Land transfer? Never heard of it have you.
>>>
>>> How are you going to "purchase" the lot next door if you have "zero"
>>> money, fuckstain?
>>
>> What...you never heard of time payments?
>
>You mean you have some sucker willing to "sell" you a lot without a down
>payment, without two nickels to rub together to pay any closing costs?
>Someone with no money to pay an appraisal fee or title transfer fee?
>
>No, gummer - no one believes you have any means of buying that
>shit-strewn lot. Of course, you would immediately default on the taxes
>for it, too.
Funny..Im nearly current on my taxes. You do have some issues dont
>No, gummer - no one believes you have any means of buying that
>shit-strewn lot. Of course, you would immediately default on the taxes
>for it, too.
you?
You must be jealous....you dont own anything..your momma does. No
wonder. She is afraid you would piss it all away on video games and
drugs..oh..and a truckload of DingDongs and cases of Dr Pepper. And a
couple cases of adult diapers.
>
>
>>>
>>>> I called and left a message with the supervisor and one with her that
>>>> Im working on it..but need 30 days.
>>>>
>>>> Now what are my options?
>>>
>>> I would begin by ceasing to bullshit, if I were you.
>>
>> If you were me..you would be an honorable conservative.
>
>If I were you, I'd be a reflexively lying neo-Nazi named "gummer mitty"
>living in poverty, filth, squalor and abject moral degradation. I'm not
>any of those, gummer.
Your fantasy world is rich and interesting. So..how long have you been
>
>>>
>>>> I called and left a message with the supervisor and one with her that
>>>> Im working on it..but need 30 days.
>>>>
>>>> Now what are my options?
>>>
>>> I would begin by ceasing to bullshit, if I were you.
>>
>> If you were me..you would be an honorable conservative.
>
>If I were you, I'd be a reflexively lying neo-Nazi named "gummer mitty"
>living in poverty, filth, squalor and abject moral degradation. I'm not
>any of those, gummer.
off your meds? You started trolling around here about a year or so
ago...so we know its been that long at least. Or you found a happy
home here.....<VBG>. So tell me..whats it like to be a masochist of
your particular stripe? Ive never met one quite like you before. Id
like to pick your brain. And Ill supply the pick.
So when are you coming over to visit? We can discuss all manner of
interesting things. Dirt...that would be a nice deep subject to
discuss. Gritty.
When can I expect you?
Gunner
A trout in the milk
May 21, 2013, 10:14:45 PM5/21/13
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b) it's in a rusting container on a vacant lot
c) ...in Taft
It's worthless shit.
>>>>
>>>> How are you going to "purchase" the lot next door if you have "zero"
>>>> money, fuckstain?
>>>
>>> What...you never heard of time payments?
>>
>> You mean you have some sucker willing to "sell" you a lot without a down
>> payment, without two nickels to rub together to pay any closing costs?
>> Someone with no money to pay an appraisal fee or title transfer fee?
>
> Of course. Land transfer? Never heard of it have you.
Of course, you don't even have any money to make any <chortle> "time
payments."
>>
>> No, gummer - no one believes you have any means of buying that
>> shit-strewn lot. Of course, you would immediately default on the taxes
>> for it, too.
>
> Funny..Im nearly current on my taxes.
taxes from "unsecured escape bills" on that shithole property:
http://www.kcttc.co.kern.ca.us/Payment/ATNDetails.aspx?NUMBER=03930320008&NUM_TYPE=AT&YR=H
>>>>
>>>>> I called and left a message with the supervisor and one with her that
>>>>> Im working on it..but need 30 days.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now what are my options?
>>>>
>>>> I would begin by ceasing to bullshit, if I were you.
>>>
>>> If you were me..you would be an honorable conservative.
>>
>> If I were you, I'd be a reflexively lying neo-Nazi named "gummer mitty"
>> living in poverty, filth, squalor and abject moral degradation. I'm not
>> any of those, gummer.
>
> Your fantasy world is rich and interesting.
> So..how long have you been off your meds?
> You started trolling around here about a year or so
> ago...so we know its been that long at least.
> When can I expect you?
cl...@snyder.on.ca
May 21, 2013, 10:18:14 PM5/21/13
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"dump" looks better maintained and neater than his surroundings.
A trout in the milk
May 21, 2013, 10:23:25 PM5/21/13
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in the front yard, a leaky boat that hasn't been moved in years, weeds.
Don't forget the inch-wide cracks in the street up and down the block.
gregz
May 21, 2013, 11:00:18 PM5/21/13
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Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com> wrote:
> https://picasaweb.google.com/104042282269066802602/May212013?authkey=Gv1sRgCLWlwezt7crmFw#
>
> My house..and the empty lot next door.
>
> I am in negotiations with the owner to purchase the empty lot.
>
> However...it would appear that in 2011 I pissed off a fellow down the
> street over a dog issue..that my dog wasnt even involved in. So he
> made a complaint with the county. I was notified by the inspector of
> it in 2011..and told to keep it cleaned up etc and nothing more was
> said.
>
> Suddenly..on May 10..I get a 7 day warning from the county. New lady
> inspector..who has little empathy. She claims that cargo containers
> are a "no no" here in the unencorporated part of the county (dispite
> them being all over the place) . So I had 7 days to pull it out. So I
> mowed, cleaned the lot again, removed a boat and a trailer and put it
> as the photos show.
>
> She said I was "illegally dumping"..despite having the owners
> permission. So this morning..she shows up with 2 deputies and advises
> me that I have until 2pm Wed afternoon (24 hrs) to clean the lot off
> else Id be cited for "illegally dumping" and the county would clean
> off the lot.
>
> Im scrambling to find a place to put the cargo container...but the
> forklift is still down, Ive got ZERO money to move it or to fix the
> forklift.
>
> https://picasaweb.google.com/104042282269066802602/May212013?authkey=Gv1sRgCLWlwezt7crmFw#
>
> My house..and the empty lot next door.
>
> I am in negotiations with the owner to purchase the empty lot.
>
> However...it would appear that in 2011 I pissed off a fellow down the
> street over a dog issue..that my dog wasnt even involved in. So he
> made a complaint with the county. I was notified by the inspector of
> it in 2011..and told to keep it cleaned up etc and nothing more was
> said.
>
> Suddenly..on May 10..I get a 7 day warning from the county. New lady
> inspector..who has little empathy. She claims that cargo containers
> are a "no no" here in the unencorporated part of the county (dispite
> them being all over the place) . So I had 7 days to pull it out. So I
> mowed, cleaned the lot again, removed a boat and a trailer and put it
> as the photos show.
>
> She said I was "illegally dumping"..despite having the owners
> permission. So this morning..she shows up with 2 deputies and advises
> me that I have until 2pm Wed afternoon (24 hrs) to clean the lot off
> else Id be cited for "illegally dumping" and the county would clean
> off the lot.
>
> Im scrambling to find a place to put the cargo container...but the
> forklift is still down, Ive got ZERO money to move it or to fix the
> forklift.
>
> I called and left a message with the supervisor and one with her that
> Im working on it..but need 30 days.
>
> Now what are my options?
>
> Im working on it..but need 30 days.
>
> Now what are my options?
>
> California of course.
>
> In a dying area where there are more empty lots with for sale then
> Carter has pills. The last photo is of a typical lot in the area.
>
>
> In a dying area where there are more empty lots with for sale then
> Carter has pills. The last photo is of a typical lot in the area.
>
> Gunner
>
> --
> "You guess the truth hurts?
>
> Really?
>
> "Hurt" aint the word.
>
> For Liberals, the truth is like salt to a slug.
> Sunlight to a vampire.
> Raid® to a cockroach.
>
> --
> "You guess the truth hurts?
>
> Really?
>
> "Hurt" aint the word.
>
> For Liberals, the truth is like salt to a slug.
> Sunlight to a vampire.
> Sheriff Brody to a shark
> Bush to a Liberal
>
> The truth doesn't just hurt. It's painful, like a red hot poker shoved
> up their ass. Like sliding down a hundred foot razor blade using their
> dick as a brake.
>
> They HATE the truth."
About the most UGLY thing are those awful garbage containers. They make a
> Bush to a Liberal
>
> The truth doesn't just hurt. It's painful, like a red hot poker shoved
> up their ass. Like sliding down a hundred foot razor blade using their
> dick as a brake.
>
> They HATE the truth."
housing area real ugly. I'm glad we don't have anything like that.
Greg
cl...@snyder.on.ca
May 21, 2013, 11:36:02 PM5/21/13
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just Taft. And I'll bet from the far side of the continent, there are
not many better maintained homes/buildings on the block, or for
several blocks in either direction. It IS Taft. Could likely buy half
of the properties in the town for back taxes, or less.
deep
May 21, 2013, 11:43:01 PM5/21/13
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A trout in the milk
May 21, 2013, 11:43:03 PM5/21/13
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scroungers like him, who don't do anything to maintain their properties,
is why the county won't keep the street in better condition.
> That's just Taft.
Taft is what it is because of people like gummer.
Gunner Asch
May 22, 2013, 12:38:48 AM5/22/13
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>>>>>> Sheriff Brody to a shark
>>>>>> Bush to a Liberal
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The truth doesn't just hurt. It's painful, like a red hot poker shoved
>>>>>> up their ass. Like sliding down a hundred foot razor blade using their
>>>>>> dick as a brake.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They HATE the truth."
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Place does look like a dump.
>>>>
>>>> Of course it does.
>>>
>>> Right: you're a neighbor.
>>
>> So why not come on over and we can check out the backhoe and see how
>> deep it will dig?
>
>You don't have a backhoe.
>
>Maybe the next time I'm driving to northern California, I'll swing by
>and take some pictures to prove it.
So you lied when you stated clearly..you lived here.
>>>>>> Bush to a Liberal
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The truth doesn't just hurt. It's painful, like a red hot poker shoved
>>>>>> up their ass. Like sliding down a hundred foot razor blade using their
>>>>>> dick as a brake.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They HATE the truth."
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Place does look like a dump.
>>>>
>>>> Of course it does.
>>>
>>> Right: you're a neighbor.
>>
>> So why not come on over and we can check out the backhoe and see how
>> deep it will dig?
>
>You don't have a backhoe.
>
>Maybe the next time I'm driving to northern California, I'll swing by
>and take some pictures to prove it.
Why am I not surprised.
--
"You guess the truth hurts?
Really?
"Hurt" aint the word.
For Liberals, the truth is like salt to a slug.
Sunlight to a vampire.
Gunner Asch
May 22, 2013, 12:39:57 AM5/22/13
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Gunner Asch
May 22, 2013, 12:41:35 AM5/22/13
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previous photos? Place hasnt changed any in hummm 12 yrs. Palm tree
is taller ...about all.
Now where are they?
Gunner
--
"You guess the truth hurts?
Really?
"Hurt" aint the word.
For Liberals, the truth is like salt to a slug.
Sunlight to a vampire.
A trout in the milk
May 22, 2013, 12:43:45 AM5/22/13
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>>>>>>> Sheriff Brody to a shark
>>>>>>> Bush to a Liberal
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The truth doesn't just hurt. It's painful, like a red hot poker shoved
>>>>>>> up their ass. Like sliding down a hundred foot razor blade using their
>>>>>>> dick as a brake.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> They HATE the truth."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Place does look like a dump.
>>>>>
>>>>> Of course it does.
>>>>
>>>> Right: you're a neighbor.
>>>
>>> So why not come on over and we can check out the backhoe and see how
>>> deep it will dig?
>>
>> You don't have a backhoe.
>>
>> Maybe the next time I'm driving to northern California, I'll swing by
>> and take some pictures to prove it.
>
> So you lied when you stated clearly..you lived here.
I never said I lived in Taft. You lied when you said I did say that.
>>>>>>> Bush to a Liberal
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The truth doesn't just hurt. It's painful, like a red hot poker shoved
>>>>>>> up their ass. Like sliding down a hundred foot razor blade using their
>>>>>>> dick as a brake.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> They HATE the truth."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Place does look like a dump.
>>>>>
>>>>> Of course it does.
>>>>
>>>> Right: you're a neighbor.
>>>
>>> So why not come on over and we can check out the backhoe and see how
>>> deep it will dig?
>>
>> You don't have a backhoe.
>>
>> Maybe the next time I'm driving to northern California, I'll swing by
>> and take some pictures to prove it.
>
> So you lied when you stated clearly..you lived here.
Why am I not surprised?
Gunner Asch
May 22, 2013, 12:45:15 AM5/22/13
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As for green...the trees are green and the grass was green. But it
wont be green again in the neighborhood fill late fall. Its the
fucking desert. But..you were already here and you should know that.
Right?
No collapsing fences. None. Dogs would be running the neighborhood if
there were.
So if it were covered with Dr Pepper cans and empty DingDong
wrappers..it would look just like home....snicker...right?
>
>>
>>Ill glady look at them again.
>>
>>Gunner
A trout in the milk
May 22, 2013, 12:44:44 AM5/22/13
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On 5/21/2013 9:41 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
> On Tue, 21 May 2013 18:48:32 -0700, A trout in the milk
> <jonbanq�eer@y�hoo.com> wrote:
>
>> On 5/21/2013 6:42 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
>>> On Tue, 21 May 2013 17:32:42 -0700, A trout in the milk
>>> <jonbanq�eer@y�hoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>> Place does look like a dump.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's a dump. The entire block is a dump. The entire section is a dump.
>>>>>
>>>>> The opinion of
>>>>
>>>> No, not mere "opinion", gummer. I've driven by your shithole of a squat
>>>> and I've posted pictures of it here. The place is methhead central.
>>>> It's a reeking shithole. You live in a shithole because you're a
>>>> dole-scrounging shitbag.
>>>
>>> What photos did you post?
>>
>> The ones I took of your shithole a couple of years ago on an earlier
>> drive-by.
>
> So you didnt look at the ones I just posted? Now..cites for the
> previous photos?
You can dig in Google Groups archives as well as I can. Now stop
> On Tue, 21 May 2013 18:48:32 -0700, A trout in the milk
> <jonbanq�eer@y�hoo.com> wrote:
>
>> On 5/21/2013 6:42 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
>>> On Tue, 21 May 2013 17:32:42 -0700, A trout in the milk
>>> <jonbanq�eer@y�hoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>> Place does look like a dump.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's a dump. The entire block is a dump. The entire section is a dump.
>>>>>
>>>>> The opinion of
>>>>
>>>> No, not mere "opinion", gummer. I've driven by your shithole of a squat
>>>> and I've posted pictures of it here. The place is methhead central.
>>>> It's a reeking shithole. You live in a shithole because you're a
>>>> dole-scrounging shitbag.
>>>
>>> What photos did you post?
>>
>> The ones I took of your shithole a couple of years ago on an earlier
>> drive-by.
>
> So you didnt look at the ones I just posted? Now..cites for the
> previous photos?
fucking around and get busy, boi.
Gunner Asch
May 22, 2013, 12:47:03 AM5/22/13
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on the Force 5 2 weekends ago. Inch wide cracks in desert pavement?
Obviously...you were never here.
Laugh laugh laugh!!
--
"You guess the truth hurts?
Really?
"Hurt" aint the word.
For Liberals, the truth is like salt to a slug.
Sunlight to a vampire.
Gunner Asch
May 22, 2013, 12:47:45 AM5/22/13
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Shrug.
Gunner Asch
May 22, 2013, 12:50:11 AM5/22/13
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kiddylitter plant. I own my own business. Gomez works on Midway Farms,
Mrs Greeley is a retired school teacher. Which dole scroungers are
you blithering about?
>
>
>> That's just Taft.
>
>Taft is what it is because of people like gummer.
So you are admitting to never having been here. (Grin!!)
>
>> That's just Taft.
>
>Taft is what it is because of people like gummer.
Laugh laugh laugh!!!
>
>
>> And I'll bet from the far side of the continent, there are
>> not many better maintained homes/buildings on the block, or for
>> several blocks in either direction. It IS Taft. Could likely buy half
>> of the properties in the town for back taxes, or less.
>>
--
"You guess the truth hurts?
Really?
"Hurt" aint the word.
For Liberals, the truth is like salt to a slug.
Sunlight to a vampire.
RaidŽ to a cockroach.
"You guess the truth hurts?
Really?
"Hurt" aint the word.
For Liberals, the truth is like salt to a slug.
Sunlight to a vampire.
Gunner Asch
May 22, 2013, 12:55:36 AM5/22/13
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So you dont know and in fact...snipped out the list of equipment you
were supposed to give me the price on. Thats hardly surprising now is
it?
>
>It's worthless shit.
Cites?
>
>
>>>>>
>>>>> How are you going to "purchase" the lot next door if you have "zero"
>>>>> money, fuckstain?
>>>>
>>>> What...you never heard of time payments?
>>>
>>> You mean you have some sucker willing to "sell" you a lot without a down
>>> payment, without two nickels to rub together to pay any closing costs?
>>> Someone with no money to pay an appraisal fee or title transfer fee?
>>
>> Of course. Land transfer? Never heard of it have you.
>
>You can't transfer the land without paying something to record the deed.
> Of course, you don't even have any money to make any <chortle> "time
>payments."
Cites?
>
>>>>>
>>>>> How are you going to "purchase" the lot next door if you have "zero"
>>>>> money, fuckstain?
>>>>
>>>> What...you never heard of time payments?
>>>
>>> You mean you have some sucker willing to "sell" you a lot without a down
>>> payment, without two nickels to rub together to pay any closing costs?
>>> Someone with no money to pay an appraisal fee or title transfer fee?
>>
>> Of course. Land transfer? Never heard of it have you.
>
>You can't transfer the land without paying something to record the deed.
> Of course, you don't even have any money to make any <chortle> "time
>payments."
>
>
>>>
>>> No, gummer - no one believes you have any means of buying that
>>> shit-strewn lot. Of course, you would immediately default on the taxes
>>> for it, too.
>>
>> Funny..Im nearly current on my taxes.
>
>No, gummer, you're not - there are several thousand dollars of unpaid
>taxes from "unsecured escape bills" on that shithole property:
>http://www.kcttc.co.kern.ca.us/Payment/ATNDetails.aspx?NUMBER=03930320008&NUM_TYPE=AT&YR=H
Of course there are. My property taxes were recently reduced to
>
>>>
>>> No, gummer - no one believes you have any means of buying that
>>> shit-strewn lot. Of course, you would immediately default on the taxes
>>> for it, too.
>>
>> Funny..Im nearly current on my taxes.
>
>No, gummer, you're not - there are several thousand dollars of unpaid
>taxes from "unsecured escape bills" on that shithole property:
>http://www.kcttc.co.kern.ca.us/Payment/ATNDetails.aspx?NUMBER=03930320008&NUM_TYPE=AT&YR=H
$250/year. And ? You will notice Im making payments and paying it
up to current. And? (VBG>
>
>
>>>>>
>>>>>> I called and left a message with the supervisor and one with her that
>>>>>> Im working on it..but need 30 days.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now what are my options?
>>>>>
>>>>> I would begin by ceasing to bullshit, if I were you.
>>>>
>>>> If you were me..you would be an honorable conservative.
>>>
>>> If I were you, I'd be a reflexively lying neo-Nazi named "gummer mitty"
>>> living in poverty, filth, squalor and abject moral degradation. I'm not
>>> any of those, gummer.
>>
>> Your fantasy world is rich and interesting.
>
>There's not fantasy, gummer - I described you with great accuracy.
How could you? You called me a Neo-Nazi. Im not white and Im
>
>>>>>
>>>>>> I called and left a message with the supervisor and one with her that
>>>>>> Im working on it..but need 30 days.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now what are my options?
>>>>>
>>>>> I would begin by ceasing to bullshit, if I were you.
>>>>
>>>> If you were me..you would be an honorable conservative.
>>>
>>> If I were you, I'd be a reflexively lying neo-Nazi named "gummer mitty"
>>> living in poverty, filth, squalor and abject moral degradation. I'm not
>>> any of those, gummer.
>>
>> Your fantasy world is rich and interesting.
>
>There's not fantasy, gummer - I described you with great accuracy.
certainly not Christian..and Im a conservative. So once again..you
lied.
>
>> So..how long have you been off your meds?
>
>stale, gummer - very stale and unimaginative.
So you wont answer the question? Why is that?
>> So..how long have you been off your meds?
>
>stale, gummer - very stale and unimaginative.
>
>> You started trolling around here about a year or so
>> ago...so we know its been that long at least.
>
>It's been more like eight years, gummer.
Sure it has.
>> You started trolling around here about a year or so
>> ago...so we know its been that long at least.
>
>It's been more like eight years, gummer.
>
>
>
>> When can I expect you?
>
>Oh, one of these days, gummer - one of these days.
Ill keep the hole open for you.
>
>
>> When can I expect you?
>
>Oh, one of these days, gummer - one of these days.
Gunner Asch
May 22, 2013, 12:56:56 AM5/22/13
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On Wed, 22 May 2013 03:00:18 +0000 (UTC), gregz <ze...@comcast.net>
wrote:
The contract service is maintained by the county. They put it on our
property taxes at the start of each year. It works out to be about
$40 a year..which aint half bad.
wrote:
property taxes at the start of each year. It works out to be about
$40 a year..which aint half bad.
Tom Gardner
May 22, 2013, 1:57:00 AM5/22/13
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their own dwellings. Could be that the government maintains their
habitats for them.
A trout in the milk
May 22, 2013, 1:55:55 AM5/22/13
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On 5/21/2013 9:45 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
> On Tue, 21 May 2013 19:54:26 -0600, Yes it's a shit hole wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 21 May 2013 18:42:20 -0700, Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 21 May 2013 17:32:42 -0700, A trout in the milk
>>> <jonbanq�eer@y�hoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>> Place does look like a dump.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's a dump. The entire block is a dump. The entire section is a dump.
>>>>>
>>>>> The opinion of
>>>>
>>>> No, not mere "opinion", gummer. I've driven by your shithole of a squat
>>>> and I've posted pictures of it here. The place is methhead central.
>>>> It's a reeking shithole. You live in a shithole because you're a
>>>> dole-scrounging shitbag.
>>>
>>> What photos did you post?
>>>
>>> You mean you posted photos like these?
>>>
>>> https://picasaweb.google.com/104042282269066802602/May212013?authkey=Gv1sRgCLWlwezt7crmFw#
>>>
>>>
>>> Please point out the "shit hole " aspects if you would be so kind.
>>
>> It's a fucking dump. Shitty looking double wides. Trashy looking
>> trailers and storage containers. Crappy looking, collapsing fences.
>> Trashed empty lots. Not a bit of green grass anywhere. Definately a
>> lower class neighborhood. Definately a shit hole.
>
> Your opinion is once again noted, basement dweller.
Your hackneyed use of a stale Usenet insult is once again noted, stupid
> On Tue, 21 May 2013 19:54:26 -0600, Yes it's a shit hole wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 21 May 2013 18:42:20 -0700, Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 21 May 2013 17:32:42 -0700, A trout in the milk
>>> <jonbanq�eer@y�hoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>> Place does look like a dump.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's a dump. The entire block is a dump. The entire section is a dump.
>>>>>
>>>>> The opinion of
>>>>
>>>> No, not mere "opinion", gummer. I've driven by your shithole of a squat
>>>> and I've posted pictures of it here. The place is methhead central.
>>>> It's a reeking shithole. You live in a shithole because you're a
>>>> dole-scrounging shitbag.
>>>
>>> What photos did you post?
>>>
>>> You mean you posted photos like these?
>>>
>>> https://picasaweb.google.com/104042282269066802602/May212013?authkey=Gv1sRgCLWlwezt7crmFw#
>>>
>>>
>>> Please point out the "shit hole " aspects if you would be so kind.
>>
>> It's a fucking dump. Shitty looking double wides. Trashy looking
>> trailers and storage containers. Crappy looking, collapsing fences.
>> Trashed empty lots. Not a bit of green grass anywhere. Definately a
>> lower class neighborhood. Definately a shit hole.
>
> Your opinion is once again noted, basement dweller.
squat-to-piss boi.
> As for green...the trees are green and the grass was green.
> But it wont be green again in the neighborhood fill late fall.
> Its the fucking desert.
Methheads and meth lab operators live in the desert.
A trout in the milk
May 22, 2013, 1:57:14 AM5/22/13
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> Leaky boat? None leak.
Not "none", gummer - "it". But it does leak.
A trout in the milk
May 22, 2013, 1:58:34 AM5/22/13
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>>
>>> That's just Taft.
>>
>> Taft is what it is because of people like gummer.
>
> So you are admitting to never having been here.
It's undeniably a shithole.
A trout in the milk
May 22, 2013, 2:22:08 AM5/22/13
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>>
>> It's worthless shit.
>
> Cites?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How are you going to "purchase" the lot next door if you have "zero"
>>>>>> money, fuckstain?
>>>>>
>>>>> What...you never heard of time payments?
>>>>
>>>> You mean you have some sucker willing to "sell" you a lot without a down
>>>> payment, without two nickels to rub together to pay any closing costs?
>>>> Someone with no money to pay an appraisal fee or title transfer fee?
>>>
>>> Of course. Land transfer? Never heard of it have you.
>>
>> You can't transfer the land without paying something to record the deed.
>> Of course, you don't even have any money to make any <chortle> "time
>> payments."
>
> Cites?
>>>>
>>>> No, gummer - no one believes you have any means of buying that
>>>> shit-strewn lot. Of course, you would immediately default on the taxes
>>>> for it, too.
>>>
>>> Funny..Im nearly current on my taxes.
>>
>> No, gummer, you're not - there are several thousand dollars of unpaid
>> taxes from "unsecured escape bills" on that shithole property:
>> http://www.kcttc.co.kern.ca.us/Payment/ATNDetails.aspx?NUMBER=03930320008&NUM_TYPE=AT&YR=H
>
> Of course there are.
> My property taxes were recently reduced to
> $250/year.
http://www.kcttc.co.kern.ca.us/Payment/ATNDetails.aspx?NUMBER=03930320008&NUM_TYPE=AT&YR=C
http://www.kcttc.co.kern.ca.us/Payment/ATNDetails.aspx?NUMBER=03930304002&NUM_TYPE=AT&YR=C
show that a total of $610.58 was due and - miraculously - paid since
December. Of course, one payment for $124.31 was six days late.
Why did you lie and say your property taxes are only $250 per year when
public records clearly show that they're more than twice that amount,
gummer?
Are you beginning to understand why *everyone* - including those
shitstains who consider you an "ally" - views you as a chronic,
reflexive, congenital liar, gummer? It's because you *are* one, gummer.
>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I called and left a message with the supervisor and one with her that
>>>>>>> Im working on it..but need 30 days.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Now what are my options?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would begin by ceasing to bullshit, if I were you.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you were me..you would be an honorable conservative.
>>>>
>>>> If I were you, I'd be a reflexively lying neo-Nazi named "gummer mitty"
>>>> living in poverty, filth, squalor and abject moral degradation. I'm not
>>>> any of those, gummer.
>>>
>>> Your fantasy world is rich and interesting.
>>
>> There's not fantasy, gummer - I described you with great accuracy.
>
> How could you? You called me a Neo-Nazi.
>>> So..how long have you been off your meds?
>>
>> stale, gummer - very stale and unimaginative.
>
> So you wont answer the question?
>>> You started trolling around here about a year or so
>>> ago...so we know its been that long at least.
>>
>> It's been more like eight years, gummer.
>
> Sure it has.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.california/msg/6ad1f257ca50a7f8?hl=en
Surely you remember when "Rudy" used to kick your flabby ass up one side
of the dusty cracked weed-choked street and down the other, *don't* you,
gummer? Fuck - that was before your heart attack and stroke, too. I
think I could do it hogtied today, gummer.
gummer, you were threatening to have me killed even back then. And yet,
here I still am, kicking your ass eight years later! I've driven
through Taft, the lower colon of California, several times since then,
too - and you didn't do a thing.
>>
>>> When can I expect you?
>>
>> Oh, one of these days, gummer - one of these days.
>
> Ill keep the hole open for you.
It's all bullshit - all of it. You've admitted it.
book...@yahoo.com
May 22, 2013, 4:08:13 AM5/22/13
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properties.
Coincidentally, in looking at cabins for sale in Alaska, I came across
two being sold that extend into a next door neighbor's property. House
has one a house corner that needs to be moved. Another place has its
septic tank on the property being sold.
I can understand how a developer would just be throwing buildings up
carelessly, but am unclear about where that leaves a purchaser. Was
one really desirable lot for sale on a lake next to its owner, who
denied access to the lot, except by water. His access road was next
to the lot being sold.
Seems like people do get cranky over property. Deaths have occurred
in Alaska over such things as a property owner with a spring trying to
prevent public access to the only source of water. People started
showing up with AK-47s and there was a shoot-out. Spring "owner" was
killed.
But I assume that the remedy is either coming to an informal
understanding, with a lawyer, going political and maybe public at
meetings, or letting the ball be in someone else's court and seeing if
the problem goes away. Must be that "eminent domain" laws must
include just compensation, etc.. bookburn
Frank
May 22, 2013, 9:28:25 AM5/22/13
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> Sheriff Brody to a shark
> Bush to a Liberal
>
> The truth doesn't just hurt. It's painful, like a red hot poker shoved
> up their ass. Like sliding down a hundred foot razor blade using their
> dick as a brake.
>
> They HATE the truth."
>
>
"O wad some Power the giftie gie us To see oursels as ithers see us!"
> Bush to a Liberal
>
> The truth doesn't just hurt. It's painful, like a red hot poker shoved
> up their ass. Like sliding down a hundred foot razor blade using their
> dick as a brake.
>
> They HATE the truth."
>
>
CanopyCo
May 22, 2013, 9:58:16 AM5/22/13
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Don’t do the selective enforcement deal.
All that will accomplish is getting a bunch of people that weren’t
dicks into the same bind that gunner got into by being a dick.
I’m surprised that they didn’t just take the entire place over back
taxes.
As to moving stuff out of a conex with a back hoe, it is the only way
we did it on a job.
We had back hoes and didn’t rent a fork lift for just one day to pull
pallets.
Hook a chain to the pallet, threw the holes and onto a bar, pipe, or
bean running across the back of the pallet so that you pull the beam
with the chain and the pallet slides along the floor down the ramp you
build out of the crap you have and out the door.
As to buying when broke, that is just standard thinking with gunner.
Don’t pay your bills, just buy more stuff that you don’t need.
As far as the leans on the property being more then they are worth,
they already are with the back taxes.
This will likely end in jail time if he doesn’t pay or play right.
And being broke we know that pay and play right are both out of reach.
As far as getting the news involved, that will likely back fire
considering the way the place looks and the reputation that he has.
It will likely make the LEO pissed off at him for trying a end run
around and the news guys will likely report it as him cleaning up his
meth house is a good thing.
As far as the taxes being paid now, it doesn’t put one in good
standing when the refuse to pay any property taxes at all until they
put a lean on the place.
Any future involvement will be tainted by the previous total lack of
cooperation without being forced.
All that will accomplish is getting a bunch of people that weren’t
dicks into the same bind that gunner got into by being a dick.
I’m surprised that they didn’t just take the entire place over back
taxes.
As to moving stuff out of a conex with a back hoe, it is the only way
we did it on a job.
We had back hoes and didn’t rent a fork lift for just one day to pull
pallets.
Hook a chain to the pallet, threw the holes and onto a bar, pipe, or
bean running across the back of the pallet so that you pull the beam
with the chain and the pallet slides along the floor down the ramp you
build out of the crap you have and out the door.
As to buying when broke, that is just standard thinking with gunner.
Don’t pay your bills, just buy more stuff that you don’t need.
As far as the leans on the property being more then they are worth,
they already are with the back taxes.
This will likely end in jail time if he doesn’t pay or play right.
And being broke we know that pay and play right are both out of reach.
As far as getting the news involved, that will likely back fire
considering the way the place looks and the reputation that he has.
It will likely make the LEO pissed off at him for trying a end run
around and the news guys will likely report it as him cleaning up his
meth house is a good thing.
As far as the taxes being paid now, it doesn’t put one in good
standing when the refuse to pay any property taxes at all until they
put a lean on the place.
Any future involvement will be tainted by the previous total lack of
cooperation without being forced.
CanopyCo
May 22, 2013, 10:10:37 AM5/22/13
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On May 22, 3:08 am, bookb...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> Problem, at one level, seems to be about strife over adjoining
> properties.
>
> Coincidentally, in looking at cabins for sale in Alaska, I came across
> two being sold that extend into a next door neighbor's property. House
> has one a house corner that needs to be moved. Another place has its
> septic tank on the property being sold.
>
> I can understand how a developer would just be throwing buildings up
> carelessly, but am unclear about where that leaves a purchaser. Was
> one really desirable lot for sale on a lake next to its owner, who
> denied access to the lot, except by water. His access road was next
> to the lot being sold.
>
> Seems like people do get cranky over property. Deaths have occurred
> in Alaska over such things as a property owner with a spring trying to
> prevent public access to the only source of water. People started
> showing up with AK-47s and there was a shoot-out. Spring "owner" was
> killed.
>
> But I assume that the remedy is either coming to an informal
> understanding, with a lawyer, going political and maybe public at
> meetings, or letting the ball be in someone else's court and seeing if
> the problem goes away. Must be that "eminent domain" laws must
> include just compensation, etc.. bookburn
This sort of thing isn’t typically from a professional developer.
>
> Problem, at one level, seems to be about strife over adjoining
> properties.
>
> Coincidentally, in looking at cabins for sale in Alaska, I came across
> two being sold that extend into a next door neighbor's property. House
> has one a house corner that needs to be moved. Another place has its
> septic tank on the property being sold.
>
> I can understand how a developer would just be throwing buildings up
> carelessly, but am unclear about where that leaves a purchaser. Was
> one really desirable lot for sale on a lake next to its owner, who
> denied access to the lot, except by water. His access road was next
> to the lot being sold.
>
> Seems like people do get cranky over property. Deaths have occurred
> in Alaska over such things as a property owner with a spring trying to
> prevent public access to the only source of water. People started
> showing up with AK-47s and there was a shoot-out. Spring "owner" was
> killed.
>
> But I assume that the remedy is either coming to an informal
> understanding, with a lawyer, going political and maybe public at
> meetings, or letting the ball be in someone else's court and seeing if
> the problem goes away. Must be that "eminent domain" laws must
> include just compensation, etc.. bookburn
It is over some dick that has 0 respect for the rights of his
neighbors.
They build a fence on their opinion of the property line and act like
they have no reason to even consult you as to your opinion of the
unmarked property line.
They drop a conex on your property without asking and tell others that
it is their land.
They remove property markers so that you have to pay to have it
surveyed so that you can take them to court.
They let biting dogs run free and then bitch if you defend yourself
against the attacking dog and it dies.
They put their septic tank on the neighbors land that is not watched
enough to catch them in the act.
They let their raw sewage run off their land and onto the neighbors
land.
I’ve ran into some of it personally.
There is no limit as to how low some people will go in attempting to
take what is not there’s and even act as if they deserve it somehow.
Nevillë M Wiles
May 22, 2013, 10:36:14 AM5/22/13
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On 5/22/2013 6:58 AM, CanopyCo wrote:
> Don�t do the selective enforcement deal.
> All that will accomplish is getting a bunch of people that weren�t
be seized and sold at auction, though.
Someday, some way, gummer will end up in jail, but it will have to be
for something else.
> As far as getting the news involved, that will likely back fire
> considering the way the place looks and the reputation that he has.
> It will likely make the LEO pissed off at him for trying a end run
> around and the news guys will likely report it as him cleaning up his
> meth house is a good thing.
>
> As far as the taxes being paid now, it doesn�t put one in good
http://www.kcttc.co.kern.ca.us/Payment/ATNDetails.aspx?NUMBER=03930320008&NUM_TYPE=AT&YR=H
There's more that $14,100 in unpaid taxes on that piece of blight,
dating back to 1994.
> Don�t do the selective enforcement deal.
> All that will accomplish is getting a bunch of people that weren�t
> dicks into the same bind that gunner got into by being a dick.
>
> I�m surprised that they didn�t just take the entire place over back
>
> taxes.
>
> As to moving stuff out of a conex with a back hoe, it is the only way
> we did it on a job.
> We had back hoes and didn�t rent a fork lift for just one day to pull
>
> As to moving stuff out of a conex with a back hoe, it is the only way
> we did it on a job.
> pallets.
> Hook a chain to the pallet, threw the holes and onto a bar, pipe, or
> bean running across the back of the pallet so that you pull the beam
> with the chain and the pallet slides along the floor down the ramp you
> build out of the crap you have and out the door.
>
> As to buying when broke, that is just standard thinking with gunner.
> Don�t pay your bills, just buy more stuff that you don�t need.
> Hook a chain to the pallet, threw the holes and onto a bar, pipe, or
> bean running across the back of the pallet so that you pull the beam
> with the chain and the pallet slides along the floor down the ramp you
> build out of the crap you have and out the door.
>
> As to buying when broke, that is just standard thinking with gunner.
>
> As far as the leans on the property being more then they are worth,
> they already are with the back taxes.
> This will likely end in jail time if he doesn�t pay or play right.
> As far as the leans on the property being more then they are worth,
> they already are with the back taxes.
> And being broke we know that pay and play right are both out of reach.
No one goes to jail for delinquent property taxes. The property might
be seized and sold at auction, though.
Someday, some way, gummer will end up in jail, but it will have to be
for something else.
> As far as getting the news involved, that will likely back fire
> considering the way the place looks and the reputation that he has.
> It will likely make the LEO pissed off at him for trying a end run
> around and the news guys will likely report it as him cleaning up his
> meth house is a good thing.
>
> standing when the refuse to pay any property taxes at all until they
> put a lean on the place.
> Any future involvement will be tainted by the previous total lack of
> cooperation without being forced.
Add 'em up:
> put a lean on the place.
> Any future involvement will be tainted by the previous total lack of
> cooperation without being forced.
http://www.kcttc.co.kern.ca.us/Payment/ATNDetails.aspx?NUMBER=03930320008&NUM_TYPE=AT&YR=H
There's more that $14,100 in unpaid taxes on that piece of blight,
dating back to 1994.
book...@yahoo.com
May 22, 2013, 10:39:27 AM5/22/13
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On Wed, 22 May 2013 07:10:37 -0700 (PDT), CanopyCo <Junk...@aol.com>
wrote:
Yeah, I've wondered about the rule that septic tanks be at least 100'
from wells. Can someone put in a septic that's 100' from their well,
but almost on your property and your well is only 30' away?
wrote:
from wells. Can someone put in a septic that's 100' from their well,
but almost on your property and your well is only 30' away?
CanopyCo
May 22, 2013, 11:03:24 AM5/22/13
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On May 22, 9:36 am, Nevillë M Wiles
> > All that will accomplish is getting a bunch of people that weren’t
Won’t that eventually put one in jail for failing to pay a ticket?
<kick.dweebër.äs...@taft.sucks.for.sure> wrote:
> On 5/22/2013 6:58 AM, CanopyCo wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Don’t do the selective enforcement deal.
> On 5/22/2013 6:58 AM, CanopyCo wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > All that will accomplish is getting a bunch of people that weren’t
> > dicks into the same bind that gunner got into by being a dick.
>
> > I’m surprised that they didn’t just take the entire place over back
>
> > taxes.
>
> > As to moving stuff out of a conex with a back hoe, it is the only way
> > we did it on a job.
> > We had back hoes and didn’t rent a fork lift for just one day to pull
>
> > As to moving stuff out of a conex with a back hoe, it is the only way
> > we did it on a job.
> > pallets.
> > Hook a chain to the pallet, threw the holes and onto a bar, pipe, or
> > bean running across the back of the pallet so that you pull the beam
> > with the chain and the pallet slides along the floor down the ramp you
> > build out of the crap you have and out the door.
>
> > As to buying when broke, that is just standard thinking with gunner.
> > Don’t pay your bills, just buy more stuff that you don’t need.
> > Hook a chain to the pallet, threw the holes and onto a bar, pipe, or
> > bean running across the back of the pallet so that you pull the beam
> > with the chain and the pallet slides along the floor down the ramp you
> > build out of the crap you have and out the door.
>
> > As to buying when broke, that is just standard thinking with gunner.
>
> > As far as the leans on the property being more then they are worth,
> > they already are with the back taxes.
> > This will likely end in jail time if he doesn’t pay or play right.
> > As far as the leans on the property being more then they are worth,
> > they already are with the back taxes.
> > And being broke we know that pay and play right are both out of reach.
>
> No one goes to jail for delinquent property taxes. The property might
> be seized and sold at auction, though.
>
> Someday, some way, gummer will end up in jail, but it will have to be
> for something else.
>
> > As far as getting the news involved, that will likely back fire
> > considering the way the place looks and the reputation that he has.
> > It will likely make the LEO pissed off at him for trying a end run
> > around and the news guys will likely report it as him cleaning up his
> > meth house is a good thing.
>
> > As far as the taxes being paid now, it doesn’t put one in good
>
> No one goes to jail for delinquent property taxes. The property might
> be seized and sold at auction, though.
>
> Someday, some way, gummer will end up in jail, but it will have to be
> for something else.
>
> > As far as getting the news involved, that will likely back fire
> > considering the way the place looks and the reputation that he has.
> > It will likely make the LEO pissed off at him for trying a end run
> > around and the news guys will likely report it as him cleaning up his
> > meth house is a good thing.
>
> > standing when the refuse to pay any property taxes at all until they
> > put a lean on the place.
> > Any future involvement will be tainted by the previous total lack of
> > cooperation without being forced.
>
> Add 'em up:http://www.kcttc.co.kern.ca.us/Payment/ATNDetails.aspx?NUMBER=0393032...
> > put a lean on the place.
> > Any future involvement will be tainted by the previous total lack of
> > cooperation without being forced.
>
>
> There's more that $14,100 in unpaid taxes on that piece of blight,
> dating back to 1994.
What about unpaid fines due to failing to clean up his place?
> There's more that $14,100 in unpaid taxes on that piece of blight,
> dating back to 1994.
Won’t that eventually put one in jail for failing to pay a ticket?
CanopyCo
May 22, 2013, 11:11:07 AM5/22/13
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On May 22, 9:39 am, bookb...@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Wed, 22 May 2013 07:10:37 -0700 (PDT), CanopyCo <Junk74...@aol.com>
Not legally.
But the problem with septic tanks is that once it is under ground for
a few months in the summer, it is nearly impossible to find by eye.
You have to use equipment to find it.
One trouble that I have found is that due to the way the land perks,
you don’t have enough land to put your septic system on and no
adjoining land for sale.
Another trick is land locked land.
It takes quite a fight to force a land owner to let you cross his land
to get to your land and even if you win you don’t get to pick where
you are allowed to build your road at your expense.
Both of the above is a way to sell your land without losing the use of
it or risking having new neighbors.
> On Wed, 22 May 2013 07:10:37 -0700 (PDT), CanopyCo <Junk74...@aol.com>
But the problem with septic tanks is that once it is under ground for
a few months in the summer, it is nearly impossible to find by eye.
You have to use equipment to find it.
One trouble that I have found is that due to the way the land perks,
you don’t have enough land to put your septic system on and no
adjoining land for sale.
Another trick is land locked land.
It takes quite a fight to force a land owner to let you cross his land
to get to your land and even if you win you don’t get to pick where
you are allowed to build your road at your expense.
Both of the above is a way to sell your land without losing the use of
it or risking having new neighbors.
alv...@example.com
May 22, 2013, 11:11:49 AM5/22/13
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In rec.crafts.metalworking Nevill? M Wiles wrote:
> Add 'em up:
> http://www.kcttc.co.kern.ca.us/Payment/ATNDetails.aspx?NUMBER=03930320008&NUM_TYPE=AT&YR=H
> There's more that $14,100 in unpaid taxes on that piece of blight,
> dating back to 1994.
Wow, that's a real eye opener about what can be found on the
> Add 'em up:
> http://www.kcttc.co.kern.ca.us/Payment/ATNDetails.aspx?NUMBER=03930320008&NUM_TYPE=AT&YR=H
> There's more that $14,100 in unpaid taxes on that piece of blight,
> dating back to 1994.
internet! :)
Thanks for that, NMW. :)
Alvin in AZ pays his taxes
ps-
Demublicans v Republicrats, what's the difference? None, they're
both owned by the international bankers that own the US Gov't and
all U.S. dollars electronic or paper. :/
^^ Thought I'd add a touch-of-reality to the poly-ticks on r.c.m ;)
(and m.s and a.s too?)
ne...@nowhere.org
May 22, 2013, 11:51:40 AM5/22/13
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On Wed, 22 May 2013 15:11:49 +0000 (UTC), alv...@Example.com wrote:
>^^ Thought I'd add a touch-of-reality to the poly-ticks on r.c.m ;)
>(and m.s and a.s too?)
Please remove alt.survival from this pissing match.
>^^ Thought I'd add a touch-of-reality to the poly-ticks on r.c.m ;)
>(and m.s and a.s too?)
Thanks.
Newb
Gunner Asch
May 22, 2013, 3:20:11 PM5/22/13
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On Wed, 22 May 2013 07:36:14 -0700, Nevillė M Wiles
<kick.dweebėr.äs...@taft.sucks.for.sure> wrote:
>On 5/22/2013 6:58 AM, CanopyCo wrote:
>> Don’t do the selective enforcement deal.
<kick.dweebėr.äs...@taft.sucks.for.sure> wrote:
>On 5/22/2013 6:58 AM, CanopyCo wrote:
>> All that will accomplish is getting a bunch of people that weren’t
>> dicks into the same bind that gunner got into by being a dick.
>>
>> I’m surprised that they didn’t just take the entire place over back
>>
>> taxes.
>>
>> As to moving stuff out of a conex with a back hoe, it is the only way
>> we did it on a job.
>> We had back hoes and didn’t rent a fork lift for just one day to pull
>>
>> As to moving stuff out of a conex with a back hoe, it is the only way
>> we did it on a job.
>> pallets.
>> Hook a chain to the pallet, threw the holes and onto a bar, pipe, or
>> bean running across the back of the pallet so that you pull the beam
>> with the chain and the pallet slides along the floor down the ramp you
>> build out of the crap you have and out the door.
>>
>> As to buying when broke, that is just standard thinking with gunner.
>> Don’t pay your bills, just buy more stuff that you don’t need.
>> Hook a chain to the pallet, threw the holes and onto a bar, pipe, or
>> bean running across the back of the pallet so that you pull the beam
>> with the chain and the pallet slides along the floor down the ramp you
>> build out of the crap you have and out the door.
>>
>> As to buying when broke, that is just standard thinking with gunner.
>>
>> As far as the leans on the property being more then they are worth,
>> they already are with the back taxes.
>> This will likely end in jail time if he doesn’t pay or play right.
>> As far as the leans on the property being more then they are worth,
>> they already are with the back taxes.
>> And being broke we know that pay and play right are both out of reach.
>
>No one goes to jail for delinquent property taxes. The property might
>be seized and sold at auction, though.
>
>Someday, some way, gummer will end up in jail, but it will have to be
>for something else.
>
>
>> As far as getting the news involved, that will likely back fire
>> considering the way the place looks and the reputation that he has.
>> It will likely make the LEO pissed off at him for trying a end run
>> around and the news guys will likely report it as him cleaning up his
>> meth house is a good thing.
>>
>> As far as the taxes being paid now, it doesn’t put one in good
>
>No one goes to jail for delinquent property taxes. The property might
>be seized and sold at auction, though.
>
>Someday, some way, gummer will end up in jail, but it will have to be
>for something else.
>
>
>> As far as getting the news involved, that will likely back fire
>> considering the way the place looks and the reputation that he has.
>> It will likely make the LEO pissed off at him for trying a end run
>> around and the news guys will likely report it as him cleaning up his
>> meth house is a good thing.
>>
>> standing when the refuse to pay any property taxes at all until they
>> put a lean on the place.
>> Any future involvement will be tainted by the previous total lack of
>> cooperation without being forced.
>
>Add 'em up:
>http://www.kcttc.co.kern.ca.us/Payment/ATNDetails.aspx?NUMBER=03930320008&NUM_TYPE=AT&YR=H
>
>There's more that $14,100 in unpaid taxes on that piece of blight,
>dating back to 1994.
There is less than $8k owed. <G> Ive been busy making payments
>> put a lean on the place.
>> Any future involvement will be tainted by the previous total lack of
>> cooperation without being forced.
>
>Add 'em up:
>http://www.kcttc.co.kern.ca.us/Payment/ATNDetails.aspx?NUMBER=03930320008&NUM_TYPE=AT&YR=H
>
>There's more that $14,100 in unpaid taxes on that piece of blight,
>dating back to 1994.
<VBG>
--
"You guess the truth hurts?
Really?
"Hurt" aint the word.
For Liberals, the truth is like salt to a slug.
Sunlight to a vampire.
A trout in the milk
May 22, 2013, 3:31:24 PM5/22/13
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On 5/22/2013 12:20 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
>>> All that will accomplish is getting a bunch of people that weren�t
kept current.
But yesterday, you said you were "nearly current" on your taxes:
Funny..Im nearly current on my taxes.
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/msg/4e32e074b464eb84?hl=en
By your own (false) admission, you still owe more than half of what that
Kern County Tax Collector site shows. That's hardly being "nearly current."
Once again, you lied, and once again - as always - you got caught.
> On Wed, 22 May 2013 07:36:14 -0700, Nevill� M Wiles
> <kick.dweeb�r.�s...@taft.sucks.for.sure> wrote:
>
>> On 5/22/2013 6:58 AM, CanopyCo wrote:
>>> Don�t do the selective enforcement deal.
> <kick.dweeb�r.�s...@taft.sucks.for.sure> wrote:
>
>> On 5/22/2013 6:58 AM, CanopyCo wrote:
>>> All that will accomplish is getting a bunch of people that weren�t
>>> dicks into the same bind that gunner got into by being a dick.
>>>
>>> I�m surprised that they didn�t just take the entire place over back
>>>
>>> taxes.
>>>
>>> As to moving stuff out of a conex with a back hoe, it is the only way
>>> we did it on a job.
>>> We had back hoes and didn�t rent a fork lift for just one day to pull
>>>
>>> As to moving stuff out of a conex with a back hoe, it is the only way
>>> we did it on a job.
>>> pallets.
>>> Hook a chain to the pallet, threw the holes and onto a bar, pipe, or
>>> bean running across the back of the pallet so that you pull the beam
>>> with the chain and the pallet slides along the floor down the ramp you
>>> build out of the crap you have and out the door.
>>>
>>> As to buying when broke, that is just standard thinking with gunner.
>>> Don�t pay your bills, just buy more stuff that you don�t need.
>>> Hook a chain to the pallet, threw the holes and onto a bar, pipe, or
>>> bean running across the back of the pallet so that you pull the beam
>>> with the chain and the pallet slides along the floor down the ramp you
>>> build out of the crap you have and out the door.
>>>
>>> As to buying when broke, that is just standard thinking with gunner.
>>>
>>> As far as the leans on the property being more then they are worth,
>>> they already are with the back taxes.
>>> This will likely end in jail time if he doesn�t pay or play right.
>>> As far as the leans on the property being more then they are worth,
>>> they already are with the back taxes.
>>> And being broke we know that pay and play right are both out of reach.
>>
>> No one goes to jail for delinquent property taxes. The property might
>> be seized and sold at auction, though.
>>
>> Someday, some way, gummer will end up in jail, but it will have to be
>> for something else.
>>
>>
>>> As far as getting the news involved, that will likely back fire
>>> considering the way the place looks and the reputation that he has.
>>> It will likely make the LEO pissed off at him for trying a end run
>>> around and the news guys will likely report it as him cleaning up his
>>> meth house is a good thing.
>>>
>>> As far as the taxes being paid now, it doesn�t put one in good
>>
>> No one goes to jail for delinquent property taxes. The property might
>> be seized and sold at auction, though.
>>
>> Someday, some way, gummer will end up in jail, but it will have to be
>> for something else.
>>
>>
>>> As far as getting the news involved, that will likely back fire
>>> considering the way the place looks and the reputation that he has.
>>> It will likely make the LEO pissed off at him for trying a end run
>>> around and the news guys will likely report it as him cleaning up his
>>> meth house is a good thing.
>>>
>>> standing when the refuse to pay any property taxes at all until they
>>> put a lean on the place.
>>> Any future involvement will be tainted by the previous total lack of
>>> cooperation without being forced.
>>
>> Add 'em up:
>> http://www.kcttc.co.kern.ca.us/Payment/ATNDetails.aspx?NUMBER=03930320008&NUM_TYPE=AT&YR=H
>>
>> There's more that $14,100 in unpaid taxes on that piece of blight,
>> dating back to 1994.
>
> There is less than $8k owed. <G> Ive been busy making payments
Bullshit. You haven't had the money to make payments, and the site is
>>> put a lean on the place.
>>> Any future involvement will be tainted by the previous total lack of
>>> cooperation without being forced.
>>
>> Add 'em up:
>> http://www.kcttc.co.kern.ca.us/Payment/ATNDetails.aspx?NUMBER=03930320008&NUM_TYPE=AT&YR=H
>>
>> There's more that $14,100 in unpaid taxes on that piece of blight,
>> dating back to 1994.
>
> There is less than $8k owed. <G> Ive been busy making payments
kept current.
But yesterday, you said you were "nearly current" on your taxes:
Funny..Im nearly current on my taxes.
By your own (false) admission, you still owe more than half of what that
Kern County Tax Collector site shows. That's hardly being "nearly current."
Once again, you lied, and once again - as always - you got caught.
cl...@snyder.on.ca
May 22, 2013, 4:51:53 PM5/22/13
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On Tue, 21 May 2013 21:43:01 -0600, deep wrote:
>> The cracks in the street are not his doing or his problem. That's
>>just Taft. And I'll bet from the far side of the continent, there are
But not of his making, so no fault of his.
>>just Taft. And I'll bet from the far side of the continent, there are
>>not many better maintained homes/buildings on the block, or for
>>several blocks in either direction. It IS Taft. Could likely buy half
>>of the properties in the town for back taxes, or less.
>
>So like Milky Trout said, he lives in a shithole.
>>several blocks in either direction. It IS Taft. Could likely buy half
>>of the properties in the town for back taxes, or less.
>
But not of his making, so no fault of his.
cl...@snyder.on.ca
May 22, 2013, 4:54:05 PM5/22/13
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On Tue, 21 May 2013 20:43:03 -0700, A trout in the milk
<jonbanq�eer@y�hoo.com> wrote:
out. Taft is like Taft is because there are no jobs, and nobody has
enough money to fix it up or move out. It is Taft. The armpit of
California? Perhaps.
<jonbanq�eer@y�hoo.com> wrote:
>In a way, they are. The fact that the entire block is full of dole
>scroungers like him, who don't do anything to maintain their properties,
>is why the county won't keep the street in better condition.
>
>
>scroungers like him, who don't do anything to maintain their properties,
>is why the county won't keep the street in better condition.
>
>
>> That's just Taft.
>
>Taft is what it is because of people like gummer.
>
>
>
>Taft is what it is because of people like gummer.
>
>
>> And I'll bet from the far side of the continent, there are
>> not many better maintained homes/buildings on the block, or for
>> several blocks in either direction. It IS Taft. Could likely buy half
>> of the properties in the town for back taxes, or less.
>>
"people like gummer" live in Taft because they can't afford to move
>> not many better maintained homes/buildings on the block, or for
>> several blocks in either direction. It IS Taft. Could likely buy half
>> of the properties in the town for back taxes, or less.
>>
out. Taft is like Taft is because there are no jobs, and nobody has
enough money to fix it up or move out. It is Taft. The armpit of
California? Perhaps.
A trout in the milk
May 22, 2013, 5:09:15 PM5/22/13
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A trout in the milk
May 22, 2013, 5:10:28 PM5/22/13
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and earn enough money so they can live in a nicer place. gummer is
where he is by his own shitty choices.
whoyakidding's ghost
May 22, 2013, 6:36:06 PM5/22/13
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On Wed, 22 May 2013 14:10:28 -0700, A trout in the milk
scrapping his hoard of crap as Ig advised, Gunner will probably keep
procrastinating. First there will be fines at a per day rate. Then the
county will haul the container to an impound yard, and the rent clock
will start running. Gunner will whine up a pity storm, swear he's
working on raising bail, but in the end the county will liquidate the
crap and send Gunner a huge bill for fines, fees, hauling and storage.
Basically a replay of the unpaid taxes scenario from '94 onward - very
small bills that cost less than smoking, yet Gunner made the shitty
decision not to pay. Instead he now owes an average of a grand per
year, which keeps rising.
http://www.kcttc.co.kern.ca.us/Payment/ATNDetails.aspx?NUMBER=03930320008&NUM_TYPE=AT&YR=H
<jonbanq�eer@y�hoo.com> wrote:
>On 5/22/2013 1:54 PM, cl...@snyder.on.ca wrote:
>> On Tue, 21 May 2013 20:43:03 -0700, A trout in the milk
>On 5/22/2013 1:54 PM, cl...@snyder.on.ca wrote:
>> On Tue, 21 May 2013 20:43:03 -0700, A trout in the milk
>> "people like gummer" live in Taft because they can't afford to move
>> out.
>
>Many people *not* like gummer apply themselves, work hard, keep clean,
>and earn enough money so they can live in a nicer place. gummer is
>where he is by his own shitty choices.
Yup. And he's making another shitty choice right now. Instead of
>> out.
>
>Many people *not* like gummer apply themselves, work hard, keep clean,
>and earn enough money so they can live in a nicer place. gummer is
>where he is by his own shitty choices.
scrapping his hoard of crap as Ig advised, Gunner will probably keep
procrastinating. First there will be fines at a per day rate. Then the
county will haul the container to an impound yard, and the rent clock
will start running. Gunner will whine up a pity storm, swear he's
working on raising bail, but in the end the county will liquidate the
crap and send Gunner a huge bill for fines, fees, hauling and storage.
Basically a replay of the unpaid taxes scenario from '94 onward - very
small bills that cost less than smoking, yet Gunner made the shitty
decision not to pay. Instead he now owes an average of a grand per
year, which keeps rising.
http://www.kcttc.co.kern.ca.us/Payment/ATNDetails.aspx?NUMBER=03930320008&NUM_TYPE=AT&YR=H
Gunner Asch
May 22, 2013, 8:29:32 PM5/22/13
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Goodyear tire dealer. Traded some electrical work for a pair of new
tires (5.70x8) to put on the Hobi Cat. At the end ot the day..he had
brought in $87.13 net.
Some days he makes more..but thats been the low average for about the
last yr. I dont know how he can stay open, frankly. He has to pay
the utilities and expenses out of that $87.13
He sells far more used tires than new ones these days.
So I do 3 hours work, get 2 new tires..and Im giving them away along
with the boat. Something wrong with that......
Gunner
And he has 3 employees.
cl...@snyder.on.ca
May 22, 2013, 9:12:57 PM5/22/13
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close and can vouch for how well maintained it is, and if you care to
do some investigating you can find me on google street view, as well
as several other places on the net.
Gunner Asch
May 22, 2013, 9:20:12 PM5/22/13
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Must be nice. Shrug
Gunner
--
"You guess the truth hurts?
Really?
"Hurt" aint the word.
For Liberals, the truth is like salt to a slug.
Sunlight to a vampire.
Steve W.
May 22, 2013, 10:29:31 PM5/22/13
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Gunner Asch wrote:
>>
>> Oh, and clean up your neighbors lot first.
>> Permission or not, your junk has put him in a trick bag.
>>
>> Paul K. Dickman
>>
> Thats the only issue..the cargo container on his property.
>
>
Is the problem the cargo container itself or that it's on his property
or both?
If the complaint is that You have YOUR cargo container on his property,
Sell him the container for a nominal sum but NOT the contents. Arrange a
rental/lease to own type deal where you pay him monthly for "storage
fees" that go toward the purchase of the property.
If the problem is the container itself ask them for a description of
EXACTLY what is wrong and see if you could do something like cut a hole
in the side for a door or something else that changes the problem. I
know around here they don't like containers IF they are just dropped in
place, but if you add a lean-to or something where it looks different
then it's OK. Why ?????? Bureaucratic thinking I guess.
--
Steve W.
>>
>> Oh, and clean up your neighbors lot first.
>> Permission or not, your junk has put him in a trick bag.
>>
>> Paul K. Dickman
>>
> Thats the only issue..the cargo container on his property.
>
>
Is the problem the cargo container itself or that it's on his property
or both?
If the complaint is that You have YOUR cargo container on his property,
Sell him the container for a nominal sum but NOT the contents. Arrange a
rental/lease to own type deal where you pay him monthly for "storage
fees" that go toward the purchase of the property.
If the problem is the container itself ask them for a description of
EXACTLY what is wrong and see if you could do something like cut a hole
in the side for a door or something else that changes the problem. I
know around here they don't like containers IF they are just dropped in
place, but if you add a lean-to or something where it looks different
then it's OK. Why ?????? Bureaucratic thinking I guess.
--
Steve W.
gregz
May 22, 2013, 11:10:12 PM5/22/13
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Greg
gregz
May 22, 2013, 11:15:33 PM5/22/13
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Barstow, it was darned close. Everything is a bit worn looking around
there.
Greg
Gunner Asch
May 23, 2013, 1:36:05 AM5/23/13
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On Wed, 22 May 2013 22:29:31 -0400, "Steve W." <csr...@NOTyahoo.com>
wrote:
I going to pull the seatrain on my property and see if I can put a
door and window in it and call it a "shop" of some sort.
The only problem is the motorhome is in the place for it..and it is
supposed to be having the transmission and tires replaced.
--
"You guess the truth hurts?
Really?
"Hurt" aint the word.
For Liberals, the truth is like salt to a slug.
Sunlight to a vampire.
Raid� to a cockroach.
wrote:
door and window in it and call it a "shop" of some sort.
The only problem is the motorhome is in the place for it..and it is
supposed to be having the transmission and tires replaced.
--
"You guess the truth hurts?
Really?
"Hurt" aint the word.
For Liberals, the truth is like salt to a slug.
Sunlight to a vampire.
Gunner Asch
May 23, 2013, 1:40:06 AM5/23/13
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On Thu, 23 May 2013 03:10:12 +0000 (UTC), gregz <ze...@comcast.net>
wrote:
https://picasaweb.google.com/104042282269066802602/May212013#
wrote:
Paul K. Dickman
May 23, 2013, 8:28:20 AM5/23/13
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"Gunner Asch" <gunne...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:ocarp89is33oc549v...@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 22 May 2013 22:29:31 -0400, "Steve W." <csr...@NOTyahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>>Gunner Asch wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Oh, and clean up your neighbors lot first.
>>>> Permission or not, your junk has put him in a trick bag.
>>>>
>>>> Paul K. Dickman
>>>>
>>> Thats the only issue..the cargo container on his property.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Is the problem the cargo container itself or that it's on his property
>>or both?
>>
>> If the complaint is that You have YOUR cargo container on his property,
>>
>>Sell him the container for a nominal sum but NOT the contents. Arrange a
>>rental/lease to own type deal where you pay him monthly for "storage
>>fees" that go toward the purchase of the property.
>>
>>If the problem is the container itself ask them for a description of
>>EXACTLY what is wrong and see if you could do something like cut a hole
>>in the side for a door or something else that changes the problem. I
>>know around here they don't like containers IF they are just dropped in
>>place, but if you add a lean-to or something where it looks different
>>then it's OK. Why ?????? Bureaucratic thinking I guess.
>
> I going to pull the seatrain on my property and see if I can put a
> door and window in it and call it a "shop" of some sort.
>
That is not going to fool anyone, although it will make it your problem and
> wrote:
>
>>Gunner Asch wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Oh, and clean up your neighbors lot first.
>>>> Permission or not, your junk has put him in a trick bag.
>>>>
>>>> Paul K. Dickman
>>>>
>>> Thats the only issue..the cargo container on his property.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Is the problem the cargo container itself or that it's on his property
>>or both?
>>
>> If the complaint is that You have YOUR cargo container on his property,
>>
>>Sell him the container for a nominal sum but NOT the contents. Arrange a
>>rental/lease to own type deal where you pay him monthly for "storage
>>fees" that go toward the purchase of the property.
>>
>>If the problem is the container itself ask them for a description of
>>EXACTLY what is wrong and see if you could do something like cut a hole
>>in the side for a door or something else that changes the problem. I
>>know around here they don't like containers IF they are just dropped in
>>place, but if you add a lean-to or something where it looks different
>>then it's OK. Why ?????? Bureaucratic thinking I guess.
>
> I going to pull the seatrain on my property and see if I can put a
> door and window in it and call it a "shop" of some sort.
>
not your neighbors.
Read the damn zoning code, it's online.
Cargo containers are permitted "by right" as an accessory structure in the
A, A-1, NR, M-1,
M-2, and M-3 Districts. Cargo containers require approval of a conditional
use permit in the
E, R-1, C-2 and RF Districts. Cargo containers, where permitted, shall not
be used for human
occupancy. Signs shall not be permitted on, or attached to, cargo
containers, except those
required by law that contain public safety information for the container.
Cargo containers,
where permitted, shall not be stacked. Cargo containers shall also be
permitted in any zone
district in conjunction with an authorized construction project. Except for
temporary cargo
containers specifically authorized in conjunction with a construction
project, cargo containers
shall be painted a uniform earthen hue color (e.g. beige, tan, brown).
Cargo containers are not allowed in an R-1 except with approval of a
conditional use permit.
you have four choices,
You can try to get a conditional use permit, but I think the ship has
already sailed on this one.
You can try to get rezoned to manufacturing or ag. Good luck.
You can move it to some farm or factory.
or you can keep stacking up fines.
Paul K. Dickman
CanopyCo
May 23, 2013, 8:39:59 AM5/23/13
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On May 22, 3:51 pm, cl...@snyder.on.ca wrote:
> On Tue, 21 May 2013 21:43:01 -0600, deep wrote:
> >On Tue, 21 May 2013 23:36:02 -0400, cl...@snyder.on.ca wrote:
>
> >>On Tue, 21 May 2013 19:23:25 -0700, A trout in the milk
> >><jonbanqüeer@yähoo.com> wrote:
>
> >>>On 5/21/2013 7:18 PM, cl...@snyder.on.ca wrote:
> >>>> On Tue, 21 May 2013 19:54:26 -0600, Yes it's a shit hole wrote:
>
> >>>>> On Tue, 21 May 2013 18:42:20 -0700, Gunner Asch <gunnera...@gmail.com>
> On Tue, 21 May 2013 21:43:01 -0600, deep wrote:
> >On Tue, 21 May 2013 23:36:02 -0400, cl...@snyder.on.ca wrote:
>
> >>On Tue, 21 May 2013 19:23:25 -0700, A trout in the milk
> >><jonbanqüeer@yähoo.com> wrote:
>
> >>>On 5/21/2013 7:18 PM, cl...@snyder.on.ca wrote:
> >>>> On Tue, 21 May 2013 19:54:26 -0600, Yes it's a shit hole wrote:
>
> >>>>> wrote:
>
> >>>>>> On Tue, 21 May 2013 17:32:42 -0700, A trout in the milk
> >>>>>> <jonbanqüeer@yähoo.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>>>>>>> Place does look like a dump.
>
> >>>>>>>>> It's a dump. The entire block is a dump. The entire section is a dump.
>
> >>>>>>>> The opinion of
>
> >>>>>>> No, not mere "opinion", gummer. I've driven by your shithole of a squat
> >>>>>>> and I've posted pictures of it here. The place is methhead central.
> >>>>>>> It's a reeking shithole. You live in a shithole because you're a
> >>>>>>> dole-scrounging shitbag.
>
> >>>>>> What photos did you post?
>
> >>>>>> You mean you posted photos like these?
>
> >>>>>>https://picasaweb.google.com/104042282269066802602/May212013?authkey=...
>
> >>>>>> On Tue, 21 May 2013 17:32:42 -0700, A trout in the milk
> >>>>>> <jonbanqüeer@yähoo.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>>>>>>> Place does look like a dump.
>
> >>>>>>>>> It's a dump. The entire block is a dump. The entire section is a dump.
>
> >>>>>>>> The opinion of
>
> >>>>>>> No, not mere "opinion", gummer. I've driven by your shithole of a squat
> >>>>>>> and I've posted pictures of it here. The place is methhead central.
> >>>>>>> It's a reeking shithole. You live in a shithole because you're a
> >>>>>>> dole-scrounging shitbag.
>
> >>>>>> What photos did you post?
>
> >>>>>> You mean you posted photos like these?
>
>
> >>>>>> Please point out the "shit hole " aspects if you would be so kind.
>
> >>>>> It's a fucking dump. Shitty looking double wides. Trashy looking
> >>>>> trailers and storage containers. Crappy looking, collapsing fences.
> >>>>> Trashed empty lots. Not a bit of green grass anywhere. Definately a
> >>>>> lower class neighborhood. Definately a shit hole.
>
> >>>>>> Ill glady look at them again.
>
> >>>>>> Gunner
> >>>> Taft might be a "shithole" but from the pictures, Gunner's little
> >>>> "dump" looks better maintained and neater than his surroundings.
>
> >>>It isn't. I've driven by it. It really is a shithole - dead vehicles
> >>>in the front yard, a leaky boat that hasn't been moved in years, weeds.
> >>> Don't forget the inch-wide cracks in the street up and down the block.
> >> The cracks in the street are not his doing or his problem. That's
> >>just Taft. And I'll bet from the far side of the continent, there are
> >>not many better maintained homes/buildings on the block, or for
> >>several blocks in either direction. It IS Taft. Could likely buy half
> >>of the properties in the town for back taxes, or less.
>
> >So like Milky Trout said, he lives in a shithole.
>
> But not of his making, so no fault of his.
It is not gunners fault that he lives in Taft instead of moving to
> >>>>>> Please point out the "shit hole " aspects if you would be so kind.
>
> >>>>> It's a fucking dump. Shitty looking double wides. Trashy looking
> >>>>> trailers and storage containers. Crappy looking, collapsing fences.
> >>>>> Trashed empty lots. Not a bit of green grass anywhere. Definately a
> >>>>> lower class neighborhood. Definately a shit hole.
>
> >>>>>> Ill glady look at them again.
>
> >>>>>> Gunner
> >>>> Taft might be a "shithole" but from the pictures, Gunner's little
> >>>> "dump" looks better maintained and neater than his surroundings.
>
> >>>It isn't. I've driven by it. It really is a shithole - dead vehicles
> >>>in the front yard, a leaky boat that hasn't been moved in years, weeds.
> >>> Don't forget the inch-wide cracks in the street up and down the block.
> >> The cracks in the street are not his doing or his problem. That's
> >>just Taft. And I'll bet from the far side of the continent, there are
> >>not many better maintained homes/buildings on the block, or for
> >>several blocks in either direction. It IS Taft. Could likely buy half
> >>of the properties in the town for back taxes, or less.
>
> >So like Milky Trout said, he lives in a shithole.
>
> But not of his making, so no fault of his.
someplace more prosperous?
It is not gunners fault that his house is full of dog shit because he
not only will not clean it up but also will not keep his animals
outside?
It is not gunner’s fault that his house is surrounded by stuff that
other people threw away and he drags home but apparently can’t use to
make an income or even make things for himself?
It is not gunners fault that he brags about his shop but apparently
doesn’t have the skill (or is just too lazy) to make even one single
thing in that shop for his own use, let alone to sell to pay his
bills?
It is not gunner’s fault that he lies constantly?
Just who is forcing him to make all these bad decisions if it isn’t
gunners fault?
Wait, maybe you are saying that it isn’t gunners fault that he is an
idiot and that is why he does the shit that he does that screws up his
life?
That is the only way that I can see that it isn’t gunners fault.
CanopyCo
May 23, 2013, 8:47:58 AM5/23/13
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On May 22, 3:54 pm, cl...@snyder.on.ca wrote:
> On Tue, 21 May 2013 20:43:03 -0700, A trout in the milk
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> <jonbanqüeer@yähoo.com> wrote:
> >On 5/21/2013 8:36 PM, cl...@snyder.on.ca wrote:
> >> On Tue, 21 May 2013 19:23:25 -0700, A trout in the milk
> >> <jonbanqüeer@yähoo.com> wrote:
>
> >>> On 5/21/2013 7:18 PM, cl...@snyder.on.ca wrote:
> >>>> On Tue, 21 May 2013 19:54:26 -0600, Yes it's a shit hole wrote:
>
> >>>>> On Tue, 21 May 2013 18:42:20 -0700, Gunner Asch <gunnera...@gmail.com>
> On Tue, 21 May 2013 20:43:03 -0700, A trout in the milk
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> <jonbanqüeer@yähoo.com> wrote:
> >On 5/21/2013 8:36 PM, cl...@snyder.on.ca wrote:
> >> On Tue, 21 May 2013 19:23:25 -0700, A trout in the milk
> >> <jonbanqüeer@yähoo.com> wrote:
>
> >>> On 5/21/2013 7:18 PM, cl...@snyder.on.ca wrote:
> >>>> On Tue, 21 May 2013 19:54:26 -0600, Yes it's a shit hole wrote:
>
> >>>>> wrote:
>
> >>>>>> On Tue, 21 May 2013 17:32:42 -0700, A trout in the milk
> >>>>>> <jonbanqüeer@yähoo.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>>>>>>> Place does look like a dump.
>
> >>>>>>>>> It's a dump. The entire block is a dump. The entire section is a dump.
>
> >>>>>>>> The opinion of
>
> >>>>>>> No, not mere "opinion", gummer. I've driven by your shithole of a squat
> >>>>>>> and I've posted pictures of it here. The place is methhead central.
> >>>>>>> It's a reeking shithole. You live in a shithole because you're a
> >>>>>>> dole-scrounging shitbag.
>
> >>>>>> What photos did you post?
>
> >>>>>> You mean you posted photos like these?
>
> >>>>>>https://picasaweb.google.com/104042282269066802602/May212013?authkey=...
>
> >>>>>> On Tue, 21 May 2013 17:32:42 -0700, A trout in the milk
> >>>>>> <jonbanqüeer@yähoo.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>>>>>>> Place does look like a dump.
>
> >>>>>>>>> It's a dump. The entire block is a dump. The entire section is a dump.
>
> >>>>>>>> The opinion of
>
> >>>>>>> No, not mere "opinion", gummer. I've driven by your shithole of a squat
> >>>>>>> and I've posted pictures of it here. The place is methhead central.
> >>>>>>> It's a reeking shithole. You live in a shithole because you're a
> >>>>>>> dole-scrounging shitbag.
>
> >>>>>> What photos did you post?
>
> >>>>>> You mean you posted photos like these?
>
He sure didn’t spend it on his house or transportation.
Too much meth perhaps?
He sold his motor home, or rather let it go because he was too lazy to
move it from the storage that he wouldn’t pay rent on.
He could have used that to move any time he wanted.
I personally have repeatedly offered to hook him up with the local
machine shops to get him work if he would bring his lazy ass here.
He said that the humidity was the problem with working in Oklahoma,
but all the rest of us work here and the shops are air conditioned so
I don’t see how that would be justification for staying unemployed.
We aren’t talking about someone that was a burger flipper for most of
their lives.
Then again, with his constant lying, maybe we are.
CanopyCo
May 23, 2013, 9:00:29 AM5/23/13
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On May 22, 7:29 pm, Gunner Asch <gunnera...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 22 May 2013 16:54:05 -0400, cl...@snyder.on.ca wrote:
> >On Tue, 21 May 2013 20:43:03 -0700, A trout in the milk
> ><jonbanqüeer@yähoo.com> wrote:
>
> >>On 5/21/2013 8:36 PM, cl...@snyder.on.ca wrote:
> >>> On Tue, 21 May 2013 19:23:25 -0700, A trout in the milk
> >>> <jonbanqüeer@yähoo.com> wrote:
>
> >>>> On 5/21/2013 7:18 PM, cl...@snyder.on.ca wrote:
> >>>>> On Tue, 21 May 2013 19:54:26 -0600, Yes it's a shit hole wrote:
>
> >>>>>> On Tue, 21 May 2013 18:42:20 -0700, Gunner Asch <gunnera...@gmail.com>
> On Wed, 22 May 2013 16:54:05 -0400, cl...@snyder.on.ca wrote:
> >On Tue, 21 May 2013 20:43:03 -0700, A trout in the milk
> ><jonbanqüeer@yähoo.com> wrote:
>
> >>On 5/21/2013 8:36 PM, cl...@snyder.on.ca wrote:
> >>> On Tue, 21 May 2013 19:23:25 -0700, A trout in the milk
> >>> <jonbanqüeer@yähoo.com> wrote:
>
> >>>> On 5/21/2013 7:18 PM, cl...@snyder.on.ca wrote:
> >>>>> On Tue, 21 May 2013 19:54:26 -0600, Yes it's a shit hole wrote:
>
> >>>>>> wrote:
>
> >>>>>>> On Tue, 21 May 2013 17:32:42 -0700, A trout in the milk
> >>>>>>> <jonbanqüeer@yähoo.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Place does look like a dump.
>
> >>>>>>>>>> It's a dump. The entire block is a dump. The entire section is a dump.
>
> >>>>>>>>> The opinion of
>
> >>>>>>>> No, not mere "opinion", gummer. I've driven by your shithole of a squat
> >>>>>>>> and I've posted pictures of it here. The place is methhead central.
> >>>>>>>> It's a reeking shithole. You live in a shithole because you're a
> >>>>>>>> dole-scrounging shitbag.
>
> >>>>>>> What photos did you post?
>
> >>>>>>> You mean you posted photos like these?
>
> >>>>>>>https://picasaweb.google.com/104042282269066802602/May212013?authkey=...
>
> >>>>>>> On Tue, 21 May 2013 17:32:42 -0700, A trout in the milk
> >>>>>>> <jonbanqüeer@yähoo.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Place does look like a dump.
>
> >>>>>>>>>> It's a dump. The entire block is a dump. The entire section is a dump.
>
> >>>>>>>>> The opinion of
>
> >>>>>>>> No, not mere "opinion", gummer. I've driven by your shithole of a squat
> >>>>>>>> and I've posted pictures of it here. The place is methhead central.
> >>>>>>>> It's a reeking shithole. You live in a shithole because you're a
> >>>>>>>> dole-scrounging shitbag.
>
> >>>>>>> What photos did you post?
>
> >>>>>>> You mean you posted photos like these?
>
sold the boat and tires for anything more than $0.
Are you saying that you own a boat that is worthless?
I thought that you said that it was aluminum?
Isn’t that going for around $1.50 a pound now days?
So, a 2 hundred pound boat would net you around $200 after gas and
such provided that you drag it to the scrap yard yourself.
Fill it up with more of the metallic trash in your yard and you do
even better.
You have tires under it now, and apparently it is on a trailer so only
laziness and stupidity stops you from selling it for more than $0.
Crags list is even a better choice for selling a running boat and
motor, provide that you weren’t lying about it being usable.
Steve W.
May 23, 2013, 9:53:50 AM5/23/13
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many folks are building nice places with them?
--
Steve W.
PrecisionmachinisT
May 23, 2013, 11:21:17 AM5/23/13
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"Paul K. Dickman" <pkdi...@ameritech.net> wrote in message
news:knl1v...@news4.newsguy.com...
>
> Cargo containers are not allowed in an R-1 except with approval of a
> conditional use permit.
> you have four choices,
> You can try to get a conditional use permit, but I think the ship has
> already sailed on this one.
> You can try to get rezoned to manufacturing or ag. Good luck.
> You can move it to some farm or factory.
> or you can keep stacking up fines.
>
Pretty sure it's on his neighbor's property but he should apply for a
> Cargo containers are not allowed in an R-1 except with approval of a
> conditional use permit.
> you have four choices,
> You can try to get a conditional use permit, but I think the ship has
> already sailed on this one.
> You can try to get rezoned to manufacturing or ag. Good luck.
> You can move it to some farm or factory.
> or you can keep stacking up fines.
>
conditional use permit nonetheless; the folks at the zoning office could
probably use a good laugh.
gregz
May 23, 2013, 9:58:31 PM5/23/13
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cool red bottom. Place looks pretty cool to me.
Greg
John Q. Public
May 23, 2013, 10:26:09 PM5/23/13
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Gunner Asch
May 23, 2013, 10:35:46 PM5/23/13
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On Fri, 24 May 2013 01:58:31 +0000 (UTC), gregz <ze...@comcast.net>
wrote:
All 3 of my boats are fiberglass. I delivered that Hobi 16 early this
afternoon to a friends ranch, where my Ensenda 20 as been sitting for
years. Shrug..he wanted to use it so I left it out there in his
hands..he has 3 acres. I crawled up in it and opened the cabin for
the first time in 10 yrs...and he must have left the cabin open for
several years..it was filled with leaves, branches, tumbleweeds and a
couple birds nests. I was rather pissed. Everything was exactly where
I left it when I brought it to him to use. Sails, boom, life jackets
etc etc...still in the same places on the cabin table and beds..under
a rather thick layer of dust, leaves etc etc. Both tires have
exploded and are rags. Fortunately those are easy to replace. Once I
get the seatrain issue squared away..Im getting my 21' sailboat back.
The red/white boat in the front yard is a 13' AMF Force 5..a neat
litle small person crewed boat..or a single adult. I picked it up at
the Goodwill vehicle sale yard about 6 yrs ago for hmmmm $150 and have
sailed it rather extensivly in the local lakes. Fun little boat. When
I get the FJ that is mine..I traded for it...Ill put the AMF up for
sale for a couple hundred and use the 15' Flying Junior as my play
boat. Its a hottie when single handed.
I dont recall the last time I owned an aluminum boat..sometime in the
80s as I recall. 16' fishing boat with a 50 hp Evinrude on it, that
Id extensively rigged up for tournement fishing. Sold it to a
friend..who never paid me for it..and I got a notice 3 yrs later that
it was found in a commerical parking lot somewhere. Couldnt find the
guy, got the boat back and promptly sold it for a few hundred just to
be done with it. He had blown the engine and ripped out all the bass
fishing mods including the electroncs..the bastard.
Cant remember the name of it..I know I chatted about it before, here.
Stroke...hate the memory holes.
Gunner
Gunner
wrote:
afternoon to a friends ranch, where my Ensenda 20 as been sitting for
years. Shrug..he wanted to use it so I left it out there in his
hands..he has 3 acres. I crawled up in it and opened the cabin for
the first time in 10 yrs...and he must have left the cabin open for
several years..it was filled with leaves, branches, tumbleweeds and a
couple birds nests. I was rather pissed. Everything was exactly where
I left it when I brought it to him to use. Sails, boom, life jackets
etc etc...still in the same places on the cabin table and beds..under
a rather thick layer of dust, leaves etc etc. Both tires have
exploded and are rags. Fortunately those are easy to replace. Once I
get the seatrain issue squared away..Im getting my 21' sailboat back.
The red/white boat in the front yard is a 13' AMF Force 5..a neat
litle small person crewed boat..or a single adult. I picked it up at
the Goodwill vehicle sale yard about 6 yrs ago for hmmmm $150 and have
sailed it rather extensivly in the local lakes. Fun little boat. When
I get the FJ that is mine..I traded for it...Ill put the AMF up for
sale for a couple hundred and use the 15' Flying Junior as my play
boat. Its a hottie when single handed.
I dont recall the last time I owned an aluminum boat..sometime in the
80s as I recall. 16' fishing boat with a 50 hp Evinrude on it, that
Id extensively rigged up for tournement fishing. Sold it to a
friend..who never paid me for it..and I got a notice 3 yrs later that
it was found in a commerical parking lot somewhere. Couldnt find the
guy, got the boat back and promptly sold it for a few hundred just to
be done with it. He had blown the engine and ripped out all the bass
fishing mods including the electroncs..the bastard.
Cant remember the name of it..I know I chatted about it before, here.
Stroke...hate the memory holes.
Gunner
Gunner
Tom Gardner
May 23, 2013, 11:38:00 PM5/23/13
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book...@yahoo.com
May 24, 2013, 6:23:24 AM5/24/13
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On Thu, 23 May 2013 19:35:46 -0700, Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com>
wrote:
(snip)
I notice this as evidence of a survival issue in Gunner Asch's post:
1) after detailing the neglect of loaned boat, "Im getting my 21'
sailboat back";
2) "16' fishing boat with a 50 hp Evinrude on it, that
neighbors, relatives. We do this and feel a warm spot about trust and
depending on people's goodness, maybe like the idea that it's only
money and material things are not important in the general scheme of
things. But come survival time, where are your resources? What kind
of responsible use of resources are we working with here?
Typically, a neighbor borrows something, again and again, then you get
used to it being in his garage. You loan someone your car, and
something bad happens. You loan something to someone, that person
then thinks it's okay to loan it to someone. "Nice guys come in
last."
Maybe I'm off base about this kind of thing--burned me up when I had a
bicycle that I let a friend use one summer while she rented my
cottage, then found that she would leave it at a boyfriends place,
where he and his friends used it. She then came to me to ask where it
was so she could use it again.
Of course, I'm thinking of survival as a life-style, where you try to
manage everything in a consistent way, so as to allow you control of
your resources and build networks. I bet those religious communities,
like the Mormans and Amish, Jewish Kibbutz, and communes are not all
about indiscriminate loaning and sharing.
In a SHTF situation, I assume you are either 1) on your own, or 2)
with a group, or maybe at least communicating with a network. But do
you have a firm policy about sharing your resources? Is it a matter
of To each according to his need, from each according to his ability?
Trading, where you go quid pro quo?
Truth is, I get a warm feeling about giving people what they NEED.
Bought a set of drawers at the thrift shop for $0.50 (unbelievable)
and was cleaning it outdoors, when a gal came up and said, "I need
that." Sold it to her for $0.50 and loaded it into the back of her
station wagon and felt good--until she threw the amount of change I
gave her from $1 on the ground. I don't know, some kind of psychology
at work here. bookburn
>
>Gunner
>
>
>Gunner
wrote:
(snip)
1) after detailing the neglect of loaned boat, "Im getting my 21'
sailboat back";
2) "16' fishing boat with a 50 hp Evinrude on it, that
Id extensively rigged up for tournement fishing. Sold it to a
friend..who never paid me for it." . . . . "He had blown the engine
and ripped out all the bass fishing mods including the electroncs..the
bastard."
What is the survival issue? One way to put it is Relying on friends,
bastard."
neighbors, relatives. We do this and feel a warm spot about trust and
depending on people's goodness, maybe like the idea that it's only
money and material things are not important in the general scheme of
things. But come survival time, where are your resources? What kind
of responsible use of resources are we working with here?
Typically, a neighbor borrows something, again and again, then you get
used to it being in his garage. You loan someone your car, and
something bad happens. You loan something to someone, that person
then thinks it's okay to loan it to someone. "Nice guys come in
last."
Maybe I'm off base about this kind of thing--burned me up when I had a
bicycle that I let a friend use one summer while she rented my
cottage, then found that she would leave it at a boyfriends place,
where he and his friends used it. She then came to me to ask where it
was so she could use it again.
Of course, I'm thinking of survival as a life-style, where you try to
manage everything in a consistent way, so as to allow you control of
your resources and build networks. I bet those religious communities,
like the Mormans and Amish, Jewish Kibbutz, and communes are not all
about indiscriminate loaning and sharing.
In a SHTF situation, I assume you are either 1) on your own, or 2)
with a group, or maybe at least communicating with a network. But do
you have a firm policy about sharing your resources? Is it a matter
of To each according to his need, from each according to his ability?
Trading, where you go quid pro quo?
Truth is, I get a warm feeling about giving people what they NEED.
Bought a set of drawers at the thrift shop for $0.50 (unbelievable)
and was cleaning it outdoors, when a gal came up and said, "I need
that." Sold it to her for $0.50 and loaded it into the back of her
station wagon and felt good--until she threw the amount of change I
gave her from $1 on the ground. I don't know, some kind of psychology
at work here. bookburn
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>Gunner
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>Gunner
Stormin Mormon
May 24, 2013, 7:40:58 AM5/24/13
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I've had poor results with loaning things out.
I'm to the point of loaning only if I can afford
to have the item disappear, or not be returned
at all. As one person wrote (probably on this
list), don't loan stuff out. Give it away, and
be pleasantly surprised if it comes back.
.
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
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I'm to the point of loaning only if I can afford
to have the item disappear, or not be returned
at all. As one person wrote (probably on this
list), don't loan stuff out. Give it away, and
be pleasantly surprised if it comes back.
.
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
.
.
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Stormin Mormon
May 24, 2013, 7:43:03 AM5/24/13
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I've had at least a couple "give away" moments.
One such moment was when I had some fire wood
in back of my truck, and someone at the gas
station mentioned needing some.
One such moment was when I had some fire wood
in back of my truck, and someone at the gas
station mentioned needing some.
.
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
.
.
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Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
.
.
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CanopyCo
May 24, 2013, 9:34:34 AM5/24/13
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So, what was it that you said was aluminum?
Your may 21 @ 11:55 pm post.
“Rusting? Its Aluminum. And well painted”.
CanopyCo
May 24, 2013, 9:36:43 AM5/24/13
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On May 23, 10:38 pm, Tom Gardner <Mars@Tacks> wrote:
>
> I saw some Dandelions!
Oh great, now he is going to try and claim he has a food garden.
;-)
>
> I saw some Dandelions!
Oh great, now he is going to try and claim he has a food garden.
;-)
rbowman
May 24, 2013, 10:08:31 AM5/24/13
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Stormin Mormon wrote:
> I've had at least a couple "give away" moments.
> One such moment was when I had some fire wood
> in back of my truck, and someone at the gas
> station mentioned needing some.
When I moved fom NH I pared down my possessions to what could fit into a
> I've had at least a couple "give away" moments.
> One such moment was when I had some fire wood
> in back of my truck, and someone at the gas
> station mentioned needing some.
pickup truck. I noticed a certain degree of suspicion when I tried to give
something like a microwave to an aquaintance. "What's the catch?" I finally
gave up and just put the stuff on the sidewalk, or in the case of my boat,
on the beach above the high tide line. People seem to be more willing to
cart off 'free' stuff where there's no face to face interaction.
Diogenes
May 24, 2013, 6:48:05 PM5/24/13
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On Fri, 24 May 2013 08:08:31 -0600, rbowman <bow...@montana.com>
wrote:
Take a look at www.freecycle.org . You can sign up with a group in
your area (no cost to join) and give away or acquire just about
anything.The only restriction is that any and all items must be free.
We have disposed of a lot of surplus (furniture, video tapes, books)
and picked up all kinds of stuff (DVD player, TV, kitchen appliances).
I even scored a half dozen .50 cal ammo boxes in VG condition.
Only downside is my wife sometimes goes a bid overboard (dunno why we
need TWO food processors).
----
Diogenes
The wars are long, the peace is frail
The madmen come again . . . .
wrote:
your area (no cost to join) and give away or acquire just about
anything.The only restriction is that any and all items must be free.
We have disposed of a lot of surplus (furniture, video tapes, books)
and picked up all kinds of stuff (DVD player, TV, kitchen appliances).
I even scored a half dozen .50 cal ammo boxes in VG condition.
Only downside is my wife sometimes goes a bid overboard (dunno why we
need TWO food processors).
----
Diogenes
The wars are long, the peace is frail
The madmen come again . . . .
Stormin Mormon
May 24, 2013, 9:48:04 PM5/24/13
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Freecycle is a beautiful and noble concept. However, the one near me is terribly poorly run. And, any comments on my part are not accepted in the spirit intended. I've dispaired of it ever being properly run.
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rbowman
May 24, 2013, 10:32:15 PM5/24/13
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Diogenes wrote:
> Take a look at www.freecycle.org . You can sign up with a group in
> your area (no cost to join) and give away or acquire just about
> anything.The only restriction is that any and all items must be free.
I was on the local list but they changed the format and I didn't follow it.
> Take a look at www.freecycle.org . You can sign up with a group in
> your area (no cost to join) and give away or acquire just about
> anything.The only restriction is that any and all items must be free.
My one interaction was with a woman asking for a Gameboy for her son. I
offered mine but it wasn't the latest model and she didn't want it.
book...@yahoo.com
May 25, 2013, 2:53:35 AM5/25/13
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On Fri, 24 May 2013 20:32:15 -0600, rbowman <bow...@montana.com>
wrote:
Freecycle is an intriguing idea. Could make it a tax-free
not-for-profit company and hire yourself at a nice salary? Problem
is, you would have the for-profit thrift stores loading up your better
items for them to sell.
>
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not-for-profit company and hire yourself at a nice salary? Problem
is, you would have the for-profit thrift stores loading up your better
items for them to sell.
>
rbowman
May 25, 2013, 1:57:13 PM5/25/13
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book...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Freecycle is an intriguing idea. Could make it a tax-free
> not-for-profit company and hire yourself at a nice salary? Problem
> is, you would have the for-profit thrift stores loading up your better
> items for them to sell.
I think you're missing the point of a peer-to-peer, self organizing
> Freecycle is an intriguing idea. Could make it a tax-free
> not-for-profit company and hire yourself at a nice salary? Problem
> is, you would have the for-profit thrift stores loading up your better
> items for them to sell.
activity. No gods, no masters.
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