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Julie Bove
Mar 18, 2013, 10:36:54 PM3/18/13
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That's what my Endo. said to me today. So... Totally frustrating. I told
him that I can't see the CDE again until April. She was all booked up. And
that she didn't want to put me on the concentrated insulin until I run out
of what I have. Thanks to that mail order pharmacy I still have probably 2+
months worth of the 75/25. I will probably have enough of the Humalog until
I see her but if I had some raging high BG and needed extra, I could run
out. He gave me some samples of that. Maybe too many. And I think I will
have enough of the N. But it will be close.
So... BG was 95 when I awoke. I was unable to eat much of my snack last
night. It was white rice. I began feeling the urge to use the bathroom as
I was taking Angela home from dance last night. Barely made it. Big D.
Didn't make it through dinner. It struck again and I quit eating. Then I
made white rice for my snack. Began feeling pukey and feared that if I even
tried to take my night time pills, they would come back up. Nothing is
prescription at that time. Just supplements. So I went to bed and curled
up in a little ball. Still didn't feel well when I got up and had a
headache.
They tested my BG in the office. Was 266. Oh great! Just ate my normal 2
slices of toast and they were small pieces at that. Then at 4 hours after
eating was at 85. Uh huh. Am hungry but do not feel like eating any
dinner. Stomach still feels weird.
Blood taker lady said I should remember to drink more water before coming
in. She had trouble finding the vein. I was like... Uh huh. I did but...
Got sick to my stomach so... Yep.
Highest reading this past week was 475. This was before breakfast on Sat.
And that breakfast didn't come until about 2:30 which I think is why it was
so high! I felt like I was starving. We'd gone to my mom's house and my
nephew and his fianc� were there. My mom didn't tell them that we were
there to take her to eat and we just sat talking for a while. Then she had
Angela move some furniture upstairs and do some stuff. I finally told her
that she was starving and had to eat. So she told us to go wait in the van
and she'd be out in a while. So wait we did. Then while we were eating,
she said she didn't think that she had eaten anything yet for that day. And
she was shocked at my high BG. Couldn't see why it was that high! I have
told her repeatedly that I really do need to eat soon after I get up. But
she blamed me for the high BG and said if I had gotten up earlier, it
wouldn't have happened. I was like... Wha?
Yeah, I know, most people would have gotten up earlier and eaten then. Then
waited a few hours and taken her to eat. But my stomach just can't handle
that many meals. So I normally eat around 1:00 p.m. and then again anywhere
from 6-10:00 p.m. More and more it is getting later because I simply do not
want to eat. And then I have difficulty eating my snack.
So just yeah. Dr. doesn't know what to do with me. Thanks Doc! Not that
I'm blaming him mind you. My brother's Dr. is in the same boat. He sees a
different Endo. He's on an insulin pump now and his BG is higher than ever.
So I'm thinking it's a family thing. *sigh*
him that I can't see the CDE again until April. She was all booked up. And
that she didn't want to put me on the concentrated insulin until I run out
of what I have. Thanks to that mail order pharmacy I still have probably 2+
months worth of the 75/25. I will probably have enough of the Humalog until
I see her but if I had some raging high BG and needed extra, I could run
out. He gave me some samples of that. Maybe too many. And I think I will
have enough of the N. But it will be close.
So... BG was 95 when I awoke. I was unable to eat much of my snack last
night. It was white rice. I began feeling the urge to use the bathroom as
I was taking Angela home from dance last night. Barely made it. Big D.
Didn't make it through dinner. It struck again and I quit eating. Then I
made white rice for my snack. Began feeling pukey and feared that if I even
tried to take my night time pills, they would come back up. Nothing is
prescription at that time. Just supplements. So I went to bed and curled
up in a little ball. Still didn't feel well when I got up and had a
headache.
They tested my BG in the office. Was 266. Oh great! Just ate my normal 2
slices of toast and they were small pieces at that. Then at 4 hours after
eating was at 85. Uh huh. Am hungry but do not feel like eating any
dinner. Stomach still feels weird.
Blood taker lady said I should remember to drink more water before coming
in. She had trouble finding the vein. I was like... Uh huh. I did but...
Got sick to my stomach so... Yep.
Highest reading this past week was 475. This was before breakfast on Sat.
And that breakfast didn't come until about 2:30 which I think is why it was
so high! I felt like I was starving. We'd gone to my mom's house and my
nephew and his fianc� were there. My mom didn't tell them that we were
there to take her to eat and we just sat talking for a while. Then she had
Angela move some furniture upstairs and do some stuff. I finally told her
that she was starving and had to eat. So she told us to go wait in the van
and she'd be out in a while. So wait we did. Then while we were eating,
she said she didn't think that she had eaten anything yet for that day. And
she was shocked at my high BG. Couldn't see why it was that high! I have
told her repeatedly that I really do need to eat soon after I get up. But
she blamed me for the high BG and said if I had gotten up earlier, it
wouldn't have happened. I was like... Wha?
Yeah, I know, most people would have gotten up earlier and eaten then. Then
waited a few hours and taken her to eat. But my stomach just can't handle
that many meals. So I normally eat around 1:00 p.m. and then again anywhere
from 6-10:00 p.m. More and more it is getting later because I simply do not
want to eat. And then I have difficulty eating my snack.
So just yeah. Dr. doesn't know what to do with me. Thanks Doc! Not that
I'm blaming him mind you. My brother's Dr. is in the same boat. He sees a
different Endo. He's on an insulin pump now and his BG is higher than ever.
So I'm thinking it's a family thing. *sigh*
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Mar 19, 2013, 12:34:58 AM3/19/13
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Julie Bove, who suffers from the "hunger is starvation" delusion,
wrote:
Such is the consequence of failure to be on http://WDJW.net/Guard
(Proverbs 4:23) so that one has been deceived (Jeremiah 17:9) into
falsely thinking "hunger is starvation."
So stop being an Ayoob or you will most certainly die a horrible (Mark
9:42) death:
https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?
Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:
http://www.11alive.com/news/article/251415/3/Doctor-Touts-Hunger (Luke
6:21a) with all glory to GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy
8:3) when He blesses us right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby removing the
http://WDJW.net/VAT from around the heart
...because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Emory's IMVC.org Cardiologist (GA Lic#040347)
and Author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e66adf59151b12b6?
wrote:
(Proverbs 4:23) so that one has been deceived (Jeremiah 17:9) into
falsely thinking "hunger is starvation."
So stop being an Ayoob or you will most certainly die a horrible (Mark
9:42) death:
https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?
Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:
http://www.11alive.com/news/article/251415/3/Doctor-Touts-Hunger (Luke
6:21a) with all glory to GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy
8:3) when He blesses us right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby removing the
http://WDJW.net/VAT from around the heart
...because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Emory's IMVC.org Cardiologist (GA Lic#040347)
and Author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e66adf59151b12b6?
Don Roberto
Mar 19, 2013, 7:12:46 AM3/19/13
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On 3/18/2013 7:36 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> That's what my Endo. said to me today. So... Totally frustrating.
Poor man :-(
> That's what my Endo. said to me today. So... Totally frustrating.
I'm sure most folks here can feel for him.
Maya Zuiderweg
Mar 19, 2013, 12:11:33 PM3/19/13
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Julie Bove stelde de volgende uitleg voor :
> nephew and his fiancé were there. My mom didn't tell them that we were there
M.
> to take her to eat and we just sat talking for a while. Then she had Angela
> move some furniture upstairs and do some stuff. I finally told her that she
> was starving and had to eat. So she told us to go wait in the van and she'd
> be out in a while. So wait we did. Then while we were eating, she said she
> didn't think that she had eaten anything yet for that day. And she was
> shocked at my high BG. Couldn't see why it was that high! I have told her
> repeatedly that I really do need to eat soon after I get up. But she blamed
> me for the high BG and said if I had gotten up earlier, it wouldn't have
> happened. I was like... Wha?
>
> Yeah, I know, most people would have gotten up earlier and eaten then. Then
> waited a few hours and taken her to eat. But my stomach just can't handle
> that many meals. So I normally eat around 1:00 p.m. and then again anywhere
> from 6-10:00 p.m. More and more it is getting later because I simply do not
> want to eat. And then I have difficulty eating my snack.
>
> So just yeah. Dr. doesn't know what to do with me. Thanks Doc! Not that
> I'm blaming him mind you. My brother's Dr. is in the same boat. He sees a
> different Endo. He's on an insulin pump now and his BG is higher than ever.
> So I'm thinking it's a family thing. *sigh*
What is a CDE?
> move some furniture upstairs and do some stuff. I finally told her that she
> was starving and had to eat. So she told us to go wait in the van and she'd
> be out in a while. So wait we did. Then while we were eating, she said she
> didn't think that she had eaten anything yet for that day. And she was
> shocked at my high BG. Couldn't see why it was that high! I have told her
> repeatedly that I really do need to eat soon after I get up. But she blamed
> me for the high BG and said if I had gotten up earlier, it wouldn't have
> happened. I was like... Wha?
>
> Yeah, I know, most people would have gotten up earlier and eaten then. Then
> waited a few hours and taken her to eat. But my stomach just can't handle
> that many meals. So I normally eat around 1:00 p.m. and then again anywhere
> from 6-10:00 p.m. More and more it is getting later because I simply do not
> want to eat. And then I have difficulty eating my snack.
>
> So just yeah. Dr. doesn't know what to do with me. Thanks Doc! Not that
> I'm blaming him mind you. My brother's Dr. is in the same boat. He sees a
> different Endo. He's on an insulin pump now and his BG is higher than ever.
> So I'm thinking it's a family thing. *sigh*
M.
W. Baker
Mar 19, 2013, 2:38:29 PM3/19/13
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Maya Zuiderweg <$no_spam#ma_dot_zuiderweg_@_me_dot_com#maps_on$> wrote:
: What is a CDE?
: M.
Certified Diabetes Educator.
Wendy
: What is a CDE?
: M.
Certified Diabetes Educator.
Wendy
Ozlover
Mar 19, 2013, 4:27:04 PM3/19/13
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Maya Zuiderweg <$no_spam#ma_dot_zuiderweg_@_me_dot_com#maps_on$> wrote:
[...]
> What is a CDE?
Common Desktop Environment? :-)
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Desktop_Environment>
Certified Diabetes Educator? Nah, can't be! That would be on-topic and
make sense!
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Certified_diabetes_educator>
In case you want to know to find these things:
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CDE>
And of course this method also works for a lot of other 'acronyms' [1].
[1] No, "CDE" isn't one.
--
Frank Slootweg
[...]
> What is a CDE?
Common Desktop Environment? :-)
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Desktop_Environment>
Certified Diabetes Educator? Nah, can't be! That would be on-topic and
make sense!
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Certified_diabetes_educator>
In case you want to know to find these things:
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CDE>
And of course this method also works for a lot of other 'acronyms' [1].
[1] No, "CDE" isn't one.
--
Frank Slootweg
Julie Bove
Mar 19, 2013, 5:03:40 PM3/19/13
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Julie Bove
Mar 19, 2013, 5:04:03 PM3/19/13
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"Maya Zuiderweg" <$no_spam#ma_dot_zuiderweg_@_me_dot_com#maps_on$> wrote in
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>> were there to take her to eat and we just sat talking for a while. Then
>> she had Angela move some furniture upstairs and do some stuff. I finally
>> told her that she was starving and had to eat. So she told us to go wait
>> in the van and she'd be out in a while. So wait we did. Then while we
>> were eating, she said she didn't think that she had eaten anything yet
>> for that day. And she was shocked at my high BG. Couldn't see why it
>> was that high! I have told her repeatedly that I really do need to eat
>> soon after I get up. But she blamed me for the high BG and said if I had
>> gotten up earlier, it wouldn't have happened. I was like... Wha?
>>
>> Yeah, I know, most people would have gotten up earlier and eaten then.
>> Then waited a few hours and taken her to eat. But my stomach just can't
>> handle that many meals. So I normally eat around 1:00 p.m. and then
>> again anywhere from 6-10:00 p.m. More and more it is getting later
>> because I simply do not want to eat. And then I have difficulty eating
>> my snack.
>>
>> So just yeah. Dr. doesn't know what to do with me. Thanks Doc! Not
>> that I'm blaming him mind you. My brother's Dr. is in the same boat. He
>> sees a different Endo. He's on an insulin pump now and his BG is higher
>> than ever. So I'm thinking it's a family thing. *sigh*
>
> What is a CDE?
> M.
Certified Diabetes Educator.
>> she had Angela move some furniture upstairs and do some stuff. I finally
>> told her that she was starving and had to eat. So she told us to go wait
>> in the van and she'd be out in a while. So wait we did. Then while we
>> were eating, she said she didn't think that she had eaten anything yet
>> for that day. And she was shocked at my high BG. Couldn't see why it
>> was that high! I have told her repeatedly that I really do need to eat
>> soon after I get up. But she blamed me for the high BG and said if I had
>> gotten up earlier, it wouldn't have happened. I was like... Wha?
>>
>> Yeah, I know, most people would have gotten up earlier and eaten then.
>> Then waited a few hours and taken her to eat. But my stomach just can't
>> handle that many meals. So I normally eat around 1:00 p.m. and then
>> again anywhere from 6-10:00 p.m. More and more it is getting later
>> because I simply do not want to eat. And then I have difficulty eating
>> my snack.
>>
>> So just yeah. Dr. doesn't know what to do with me. Thanks Doc! Not
>> that I'm blaming him mind you. My brother's Dr. is in the same boat. He
>> sees a different Endo. He's on an insulin pump now and his BG is higher
>> than ever. So I'm thinking it's a family thing. *sigh*
>
> What is a CDE?
> M.
Bjørn Steensrud
Mar 19, 2013, 12:55:26 PM3/19/13
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Maya Zuiderweg wrote:
> What is a CDE?
> M.
Certified Diabetes Educator.
> What is a CDE?
> M.
I've no idea what they do with the uneducable.
outsider
Mar 19, 2013, 6:34:56 PM3/19/13
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We have high school graduates who cannot read. It isn't at all unusual.
GysdeJongh
Mar 19, 2013, 5:47:02 PM3/19/13
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I'm very special.
I would never use a Diabetes Educator without a Certificate.
They make me vomit.
a pleonasm, a Low Carb Diabetes Educator.
CDE *must* mean something different :
California Department of Education
Career Development Event
Centre for Development and Environment
Combined Driving Event
Centre pour le D�veloppement de l'Entreprise
Corporaci�n Dominicana de Electricidad
Committed Dose Equivalent
Centre du Droit de l'Entreprise
Conference on Disarmament in Europe
Cable Discharge Even
Compact Disk - Erasable
Choline-Deficient Ethionine
Certified Data Educator
Common Duct Exploration
Common Data Environment
Call Detail Element
Combat Development Engineering
City Document Exchange
Computer Design Engineer
Continuing Dental Education
Collateral Damage Estimate
Critical Driving Error
....
and
Wait for it.....
Cutest Dog Ever
Maya Zuiderweg
Mar 19, 2013, 8:05:57 PM3/19/13
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Op 19-3-2013, heeft Julie Bove verondersteld :
>>> my nephew and his fiancé were there. My mom didn't tell them that we were
What do you want a CDE for with your new insulin? I simply dont get it.
Only doctors can prescribe meds here. Is a diabetes nurse (a DVK here:
diabetes verpleegkundige) in your country to decide what meds you need?
Can she (or he) write out prescriptions?
What does your Endo do for a living?
M.
>>> there to take her to eat and we just sat talking for a while. Then she
>>> had Angela move some furniture upstairs and do some stuff. I finally told
>>> her that she was starving and had to eat. So she told us to go wait in
>>> the van and she'd be out in a while. So wait we did. Then while we were
>>> eating, she said she didn't think that she had eaten anything yet for that
>>> day. And she was shocked at my high BG. Couldn't see why it was that
>>> high! I have told her repeatedly that I really do need to eat soon after
>>> I get up. But she blamed me for the high BG and said if I had gotten up
>>> earlier, it wouldn't have happened. I was like... Wha?
>>>
>>> Yeah, I know, most people would have gotten up earlier and eaten then.
>>> Then waited a few hours and taken her to eat. But my stomach just can't
>>> handle that many meals. So I normally eat around 1:00 p.m. and then again
>>> anywhere from 6-10:00 p.m. More and more it is getting later because I
>>> simply do not want to eat. And then I have difficulty eating my snack.
>>>
>>> So just yeah. Dr. doesn't know what to do with me. Thanks Doc! Not that
>>> I'm blaming him mind you. My brother's Dr. is in the same boat. He sees
>>> a different Endo. He's on an insulin pump now and his BG is higher than
>>> ever. So I'm thinking it's a family thing. *sigh*
>>
>> What is a CDE?
>> M.
>
> Certified Diabetes Educator.
I see.
>>> had Angela move some furniture upstairs and do some stuff. I finally told
>>> her that she was starving and had to eat. So she told us to go wait in
>>> the van and she'd be out in a while. So wait we did. Then while we were
>>> eating, she said she didn't think that she had eaten anything yet for that
>>> day. And she was shocked at my high BG. Couldn't see why it was that
>>> high! I have told her repeatedly that I really do need to eat soon after
>>> I get up. But she blamed me for the high BG and said if I had gotten up
>>> earlier, it wouldn't have happened. I was like... Wha?
>>>
>>> Yeah, I know, most people would have gotten up earlier and eaten then.
>>> Then waited a few hours and taken her to eat. But my stomach just can't
>>> handle that many meals. So I normally eat around 1:00 p.m. and then again
>>> anywhere from 6-10:00 p.m. More and more it is getting later because I
>>> simply do not want to eat. And then I have difficulty eating my snack.
>>>
>>> So just yeah. Dr. doesn't know what to do with me. Thanks Doc! Not that
>>> I'm blaming him mind you. My brother's Dr. is in the same boat. He sees
>>> a different Endo. He's on an insulin pump now and his BG is higher than
>>> ever. So I'm thinking it's a family thing. *sigh*
>>
>> What is a CDE?
>> M.
>
> Certified Diabetes Educator.
What do you want a CDE for with your new insulin? I simply dont get it.
Only doctors can prescribe meds here. Is a diabetes nurse (a DVK here:
diabetes verpleegkundige) in your country to decide what meds you need?
Can she (or he) write out prescriptions?
What does your Endo do for a living?
M.
Maya Zuiderweg
Mar 19, 2013, 8:09:25 PM3/19/13
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GysdeJongh formuleerde de vraag :
>>>> gone to my mom's house and my nephew and his fiancé were there. My
> Centre pour le Développement de l'Entreprise
> Corporación Dominicana de Electricidad
;-)
......
Wait for it....
My cat.
M. (the other cat is also cute)
> Corporación Dominicana de Electricidad
> Committed Dose Equivalent
> Centre du Droit de l'Entreprise
> Conference on Disarmament in Europe
> Cable Discharge Even
> Compact Disk - Erasable
> Choline-Deficient Ethionine
> Certified Data Educator
> Common Duct Exploration
> Common Data Environment
> Call Detail Element
> Combat Development Engineering
> City Document Exchange
> Computer Design Engineer
> Continuing Dental Education
> Collateral Damage Estimate
> Critical Driving Error
Yup I saw a lot of these as well, when looking for the meaning of CDE
> Centre du Droit de l'Entreprise
> Conference on Disarmament in Europe
> Cable Discharge Even
> Compact Disk - Erasable
> Choline-Deficient Ethionine
> Certified Data Educator
> Common Duct Exploration
> Common Data Environment
> Call Detail Element
> Combat Development Engineering
> City Document Exchange
> Computer Design Engineer
> Continuing Dental Education
> Collateral Damage Estimate
> Critical Driving Error
;-)
>
> ....
>
> and
>
> Wait for it.....
>
> Cutest Dog Ever
CCE?
> ....
>
> and
>
> Wait for it.....
>
> Cutest Dog Ever
......
Wait for it....
My cat.
M. (the other cat is also cute)
Maya Zuiderweg
Mar 19, 2013, 8:10:58 PM3/19/13
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Bjørn Steensrud formuleerde de vraag :
Make sausages of them.
M.
M.
BessieBee
Mar 19, 2013, 10:34:46 PM3/19/13
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On 3/19/2013 4:47 PM, GysdeJongh wrote:
> I would never use a Diabetes Educator without a Certificate.
> They make me vomit.
Would that be the Large V?
> I would never use a Diabetes Educator without a Certificate.
> They make me vomit.
--
BessieBee
I fear the day that technology will surpass our human interaction.
The world will have a generation of idiots.
.....Albert Einstein
Julie Bove
Mar 19, 2013, 11:26:42 PM3/19/13
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"Maya Zuiderweg" <$no_spam#ma_dot_zuiderweg_@_me_dot_com#maps_on$> wrote in
or how to use a syringe. Plus she is going to implant that button in me.
Here, the Endo. does not educate. That is what she is for. I don't think
this woman is a nurse but she might be. I posted her credentials here
before but I don't remember what all they were.
The Endo. orders the tests, prescribes the meds, refers to other Drs., etc.
The CDE is supposed to help with diet and insulin.
GysdeJongh
Mar 20, 2013, 1:22:20 AM3/20/13
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Maya Zuiderweg wrote:
> GysdeJongh formuleerde de vraag :
>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>> "Maya Zuiderweg"
> GysdeJongh formuleerde de vraag :
>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>> "Maya Zuiderweg"
>>>> Julie Bove stelde de volgende uitleg voor :
>>>>> I told him that I can't see the CDE again until April.
>>>> What is a CDE?
>>> Certified Diabetes Educator.
>> CDE *must* mean something different :
>> and
>> Wait for it.....
>> Cutest Dog Ever
> CCE?
> ......
>
> Wait for it....
>
> My cat.
http://imgur.com/gallery/10U5R :)
>> Wait for it.....
>> Cutest Dog Ever
> CCE?
> ......
>
> Wait for it....
>
> My cat.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Mar 20, 2013, 2:37:32 AM3/20/13
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Hunger = Healthy
Source:
https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/053043405ea909a0?
Background: It has been extensively shown, mainly in US populations,
that sugar-sweetened beverages (SSBs) are associated with increased
risk of type 2 diabetes (T2D), but less is known about the effects of
artificially sweetened beverages (ASBs).
Objective: We evaluated the association between self-reported SSB,
ASB, and 100% fruit juice consumption and T2D risk over 14 y of follow-
up in the French prospective Etude Epidémiologique auprès des femmes
de la Mutuelle Générale de l'Education Nationale–European Prospective
Investigation into Cancer and Nutrition cohort.
Design: A total of 66,118 women were followed from 1993, and 1369
incident cases of T2D were diagnosed during the follow-up. Cox
regression models were used to estimate HRs and 95% CIs for T2D risk.
Results: The average consumption of sweetened beverages in consumers
was 328 and 568 mL/wk for SSBs and ASBs, respectively. Compared with
nonconsumers, women in the highest quartiles of SSB and ASB consumers
were at increased risk of T2D with HRs (95% CIs) of 1.34 (1.05, 1.71)
and 2.21 (1.56, 3.14) for women who consumed >359 and >603 mL/wk of
SSBs and ASBs, respectively. Strong positive trends in T2D risk were
also observed across quartiles of consumption for both types of
beverage (P = 0.0088 and P < 0.0001, respectively). In sensitivity
analyses, associations were partly mediated by BMI, although there was
still a strong significant independent effect. No association was
observed for 100% fruit juice consumption.
Conclusions: Both SSB consumption and ASB consumption were associated
with increased T2D risk. We cannot rule out that factors other than
ASB consumption that we did not control for are responsible for the
association with diabetes, and randomized trials are required to prove
a causal link between ASB consumption and T2D.
Source:
http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/early/2013/01/30/ajcn.112.050997.abstract
Comment:
Because 100% fruit juice is perceived to be liquid food, folks
drinking it are not doing it to kill their hunger (i.e. they do not
suffer from the "hunger is starvation" delusion).
Otoh, the reason why folks are drinking SSBs and ASBs is to kill their
hunger (i.e. these folks are suffering from the "hunger is starvation"
delusion).
Bottom line: The "hunger is starvation" delusion is what is actually
causing type-2 diabetes because it compels people to mindlessly
acquire visceral adipose tissue (VAT --> http://WDJW.net/VAT ) by
overeating.
Behold in amazement the following example...
Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "I'm starving!"
Source:
https://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diabetes/msg/e55df55a119465c1?
>
> I don't know why. Had my usual whole wheat toast for breakfast. BG was not
> so good then. 181 before and 258 after. But it had dropped to 121 before
> dinner. Had a brown rice casserole with ground beef and tons of veggies in
> it. BG was 134 after. So slightly higher than it should be but not a
> concern. This was on the lower dose of insulin. Will lower the breakfast
> insulin tomorrow. But...
>
> I am starving!
No you are not.
> Why?
Because starving people are dying from **weeks** of not eating and
dying people can't eat (i.e. are not hungry) much less type and post
on Usenet.
> Could it be that I am now digesting my food?
Being hungry means being able to digest food.
> I just don't know.
You are suffering terribly from the "hunger is starvation" (Genesis
25:32) delusion which scrambles the mind:
"I'm starving! I think I'm gonna die!" -- Julie Bove
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/15d86f761b4881e2?
> Ate a handful of peanuts. Didn't quell the hunger.
That which kills the hunger would be killing you.
If you were to increase the amount of peanuts to 100 lbs, it would
likely kill the hunger and you.
> So I ate a bowl of little dill pickles and a few black olives. Still hungry. Grrr...
Yes, your "hunger is starvation" delusion is what caused you to have
type-2 diabetes from the outset.
Indeed, only the truth (John 14:6) can cure you:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a81a73f828c35ae2?
Being hungrier really is wonderfully healthier and is not starvation:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/eb477f76c3071d56?
So don't be an Ayoob or you will most certainly die a horrible (Mark
Source:
https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/053043405ea909a0?
Background: It has been extensively shown, mainly in US populations,
that sugar-sweetened beverages (SSBs) are associated with increased
risk of type 2 diabetes (T2D), but less is known about the effects of
artificially sweetened beverages (ASBs).
Objective: We evaluated the association between self-reported SSB,
ASB, and 100% fruit juice consumption and T2D risk over 14 y of follow-
up in the French prospective Etude Epidémiologique auprès des femmes
de la Mutuelle Générale de l'Education Nationale–European Prospective
Investigation into Cancer and Nutrition cohort.
Design: A total of 66,118 women were followed from 1993, and 1369
incident cases of T2D were diagnosed during the follow-up. Cox
regression models were used to estimate HRs and 95% CIs for T2D risk.
Results: The average consumption of sweetened beverages in consumers
was 328 and 568 mL/wk for SSBs and ASBs, respectively. Compared with
nonconsumers, women in the highest quartiles of SSB and ASB consumers
were at increased risk of T2D with HRs (95% CIs) of 1.34 (1.05, 1.71)
and 2.21 (1.56, 3.14) for women who consumed >359 and >603 mL/wk of
SSBs and ASBs, respectively. Strong positive trends in T2D risk were
also observed across quartiles of consumption for both types of
beverage (P = 0.0088 and P < 0.0001, respectively). In sensitivity
analyses, associations were partly mediated by BMI, although there was
still a strong significant independent effect. No association was
observed for 100% fruit juice consumption.
Conclusions: Both SSB consumption and ASB consumption were associated
with increased T2D risk. We cannot rule out that factors other than
ASB consumption that we did not control for are responsible for the
association with diabetes, and randomized trials are required to prove
a causal link between ASB consumption and T2D.
Source:
http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/early/2013/01/30/ajcn.112.050997.abstract
Comment:
Because 100% fruit juice is perceived to be liquid food, folks
drinking it are not doing it to kill their hunger (i.e. they do not
suffer from the "hunger is starvation" delusion).
Otoh, the reason why folks are drinking SSBs and ASBs is to kill their
hunger (i.e. these folks are suffering from the "hunger is starvation"
delusion).
Bottom line: The "hunger is starvation" delusion is what is actually
causing type-2 diabetes because it compels people to mindlessly
acquire visceral adipose tissue (VAT --> http://WDJW.net/VAT ) by
overeating.
Behold in amazement the following example...
Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "I'm starving!"
Source:
https://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diabetes/msg/e55df55a119465c1?
>
> I don't know why. Had my usual whole wheat toast for breakfast. BG was not
> so good then. 181 before and 258 after. But it had dropped to 121 before
> dinner. Had a brown rice casserole with ground beef and tons of veggies in
> it. BG was 134 after. So slightly higher than it should be but not a
> concern. This was on the lower dose of insulin. Will lower the breakfast
> insulin tomorrow. But...
>
> I am starving!
No you are not.
> Why?
Because starving people are dying from **weeks** of not eating and
dying people can't eat (i.e. are not hungry) much less type and post
on Usenet.
> Could it be that I am now digesting my food?
Being hungry means being able to digest food.
> I just don't know.
You are suffering terribly from the "hunger is starvation" (Genesis
25:32) delusion which scrambles the mind:
"I'm starving! I think I'm gonna die!" -- Julie Bove
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/15d86f761b4881e2?
> Ate a handful of peanuts. Didn't quell the hunger.
That which kills the hunger would be killing you.
If you were to increase the amount of peanuts to 100 lbs, it would
likely kill the hunger and you.
> So I ate a bowl of little dill pickles and a few black olives. Still hungry. Grrr...
Yes, your "hunger is starvation" delusion is what caused you to have
type-2 diabetes from the outset.
Indeed, only the truth (John 14:6) can cure you:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a81a73f828c35ae2?
Being hungrier really is wonderfully healthier and is not starvation:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/eb477f76c3071d56?
So don't be an Ayoob or you will most certainly die a horrible (Mark
DocBGK
Mar 20, 2013, 4:29:20 AM3/20/13
to
Chung = Crackpot.
Bjørn Steensrud
Mar 20, 2013, 5:34:18 AM3/20/13
to
Maya Zuiderweg
Mar 20, 2013, 1:04:38 PM3/20/13
to
Het is zò dat GysdeJongh formuleerde :
lol
M.
M.
Maya Zuiderweg
Mar 20, 2013, 1:08:32 PM3/20/13
to
Julie Bove formuleerde op woensdag :
>>>>> house and my nephew and his fiancé were there. My mom didn't tell them
Ah! A misunderstanding. It will be April soon.
M.
M.
Maya Zuiderweg
Mar 20, 2013, 1:09:34 PM3/20/13
to
Het is zￜ dat Bjￜrn Steensrud formuleerde :
> Maya Zuiderweg wrote:
>
>> Bjï¿œrn Steensrud formuleerde de vraag :
I knew it, I knew it. :-)
M.
> Maya Zuiderweg wrote:
>
>> Bjï¿œrn Steensrud formuleerde de vraag :
M.
Opple Ipad
Mar 21, 2013, 5:17:54 AM3/21/13
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On Tue, 19 Mar 2013 17:11:33 +0100, Maya Zuiderweg
<$no_spam#ma_dot_zuiderweg_@_me_dot_com#maps_on$> wrote:
Dirty Laundry snipped
Usually works with an Endocrinologist, provides education about
diabetes to diabetics.
Usually carries multiple certifications and licenses such Dietician,
and or Nurse Practitioner, Insulin pump trainer, CGM trainer etc.
<$no_spam#ma_dot_zuiderweg_@_me_dot_com#maps_on$> wrote:
Dirty Laundry snipped
>
>What is a CDE?
>M.
>
Certified Diabetes Educator
>What is a CDE?
>M.
>
Usually works with an Endocrinologist, provides education about
diabetes to diabetics.
Usually carries multiple certifications and licenses such Dietician,
and or Nurse Practitioner, Insulin pump trainer, CGM trainer etc.
Opple Ipad
Mar 21, 2013, 5:19:45 AM3/21/13
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Mar 21, 2013, 7:16:36 AM3/21/13
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Hunger = Healthy
Source:
https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/053043405ea909a0?
Background: It has been extensively shown, mainly in US populations,
that sugar-sweetened beverages (SSBs) are associated with increased
risk of type 2 diabetes (T2D), but less is known about the effects of
artificially sweetened beverages (ASBs).
Objective: We evaluated the association between self-reported SSB,
ASB, and 100% fruit juice consumption and T2D risk over 14 y of
follow-up in the French prospective Etude Epid�miologique aupr�s des
Source:
https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/053043405ea909a0?
Background: It has been extensively shown, mainly in US populations,
that sugar-sweetened beverages (SSBs) are associated with increased
risk of type 2 diabetes (T2D), but less is known about the effects of
artificially sweetened beverages (ASBs).
Objective: We evaluated the association between self-reported SSB,
ASB, and 100% fruit juice consumption and T2D risk over 14 y of
femmes de la Mutuelle G�n�rale de l'Education Nationale�European
Trawley Trash
Mar 20, 2013, 11:00:11 AM3/20/13
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On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 19:36:54 -0700
"Julie Bove" <juli...@frontier.com> wrote:
> So just yeah. Dr. doesn't know what to do with me. Thanks Doc! Not
> that I'm blaming him mind you. My brother's Dr. is in the same
> boat. He sees a different Endo. He's on an insulin pump now and his
> BG is higher than ever. So I'm thinking it's a family thing. *sigh*
Hereditary fructose intolerance. Usually it gives hypoglycemia,
"Julie Bove" <juli...@frontier.com> wrote:
> So just yeah. Dr. doesn't know what to do with me. Thanks Doc! Not
> that I'm blaming him mind you. My brother's Dr. is in the same
> boat. He sees a different Endo. He's on an insulin pump now and his
> BG is higher than ever. So I'm thinking it's a family thing. *sigh*
but in our case it causes hyperglycemia. If you look in
hfiinfo.probards.com, you will see that they are so sensitive
that that simply cannot eat fructose at all. If they did, they would
probably be type II. That is my own personal theory that
I made up just to annoy you.
Julie Bove
Mar 21, 2013, 5:40:32 PM3/21/13
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"Trawley Trash" <tr...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
news:rgvo1a-...@jammer.gnet...
does *not* apply to me!
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Mar 22, 2013, 7:26:28 AM3/22/13
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Hunger = Healthy
Source:
https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/053043405ea909a0?
Background: It has been extensively shown, mainly in US populations,
that sugar-sweetened beverages (SSBs) are associated with increased
risk of type 2 diabetes (T2D), but less is known about the effects of
artificially sweetened beverages (ASBs).
Objective: We evaluated the association between self-reported SSB,
ASB, and 100% fruit juice consumption and T2D risk over 14 y of follow-
up in the French prospective Etude Epidémiologique auprès des femmes
Source:
https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/053043405ea909a0?
Background: It has been extensively shown, mainly in US populations,
that sugar-sweetened beverages (SSBs) are associated with increased
risk of type 2 diabetes (T2D), but less is known about the effects of
artificially sweetened beverages (ASBs).
Objective: We evaluated the association between self-reported SSB,
ASB, and 100% fruit juice consumption and T2D risk over 14 y of follow-
de la Mutuelle Générale de l'Education Nationale–European Prospective
Ozlover
Mar 22, 2013, 4:43:36 PM3/22/13
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GysdeJongh <JonghSevenHundredElevenAtPlanet.nl> wrote:
> Julie Bove wrote:
> > "Maya Zuiderweg" <$no_spam#ma_dot_zuiderweg_@_me_dot_com#maps_on$>
> > wrote in message news:vZKdnRGwM7aqE9XM...@giganews.com...
[...]
> Julie Bove wrote:
> > "Maya Zuiderweg" <$no_spam#ma_dot_zuiderweg_@_me_dot_com#maps_on$>
> > wrote in message news:vZKdnRGwM7aqE9XM...@giganews.com...
> >> What is a CDE?
> >> M.
> >
> > Certified Diabetes Educator.
>
> This does not work for me.
> I'm very special.
I'm certified myself, so I can well do without a certified educator,
> >> M.
> >
> > Certified Diabetes Educator.
>
> This does not work for me.
> I'm very special.
thank you very much!
--
Frank Slootweg
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Mar 23, 2013, 6:27:12 AM3/23/13
to
Hunger = Healthy
Source:
https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/053043405ea909a0?
Background: It has been extensively shown, mainly in US populations,
that sugar-sweetened beverages (SSBs) are associated with increased
risk of type 2 diabetes (T2D), but less is known about the effects of
artificially sweetened beverages (ASBs).
Objective: We evaluated the association between self-reported SSB,
ASB, and 100% fruit juice consumption and T2D risk over 14 y of
follow-up in the French prospective Etude Epid�miologique aupr�s des
Source:
https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/053043405ea909a0?
Background: It has been extensively shown, mainly in US populations,
that sugar-sweetened beverages (SSBs) are associated with increased
risk of type 2 diabetes (T2D), but less is known about the effects of
artificially sweetened beverages (ASBs).
Objective: We evaluated the association between self-reported SSB,
ASB, and 100% fruit juice consumption and T2D risk over 14 y of
femmes de la Mutuelle G�n�rale de l'Education Nationale�European
Happy Oyster
Mar 22, 2013, 7:15:03 PM3/22/13
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On Sat, 23 Mar 2013 06:27:12 -0400, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<disc...@T3WiJ.com> wrote:
>Hunger = Healthy
That is plain idiocy.
--
Crowd-founding is for money, crowd-publishing is for mankind.
http://www.supermanpost.com/
<disc...@T3WiJ.com> wrote:
>Hunger = Healthy
That is plain idiocy.
--
Crowd-founding is for money, crowd-publishing is for mankind.
http://www.supermanpost.com/
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Mar 24, 2013, 6:11:58 AM3/24/13
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Hunger = Healthy
Source:
https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/053043405ea909a0?
Background: It has been extensively shown, mainly in US populations,
that sugar-sweetened beverages (SSBs) are associated with increased
risk of type 2 diabetes (T2D), but less is known about the effects of
artificially sweetened beverages (ASBs).
Objective: We evaluated the association between self-reported SSB,
ASB, and 100% fruit juice consumption and T2D risk over 14 y of follow-
up in the French prospective Etude Epidémiologique auprès des femmes
Source:
https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/053043405ea909a0?
Background: It has been extensively shown, mainly in US populations,
that sugar-sweetened beverages (SSBs) are associated with increased
risk of type 2 diabetes (T2D), but less is known about the effects of
artificially sweetened beverages (ASBs).
Objective: We evaluated the association between self-reported SSB,
ASB, and 100% fruit juice consumption and T2D risk over 14 y of follow-
de la Mutuelle Générale de l'Education Nationale–European Prospective
Bjørn Steensrud
Mar 24, 2013, 5:11:46 PM3/24/13
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Maya Zuiderweg wrote:
> Het is zò dat Bjørn Steensrud formuleerde :
>> Maya Zuiderweg wrote:
>>
>>> Bjørn Steensrud formuleerde de vraag :
straight line :-)
> Het is zò dat Bjørn Steensrud formuleerde :
>> Maya Zuiderweg wrote:
>>
>>> Bjørn Steensrud formuleerde de vraag :
>>>> Maya Zuiderweg wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> What is a CDE?
>>>>> M.
>>>>
>>>> Certified Diabetes Educator.
>>>>
>>>> I've no idea what they do with the uneducable.
>>>
>>> Make sausages of them.
>>> M.
>>
>> I should hope that would be meta-sausages, rather than meat sausages...
>
> I knew it, I knew it. :-)
> M.
Of course. You do know that the shortest distance between two jokes is a
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> What is a CDE?
>>>>> M.
>>>>
>>>> Certified Diabetes Educator.
>>>>
>>>> I've no idea what they do with the uneducable.
>>>
>>> Make sausages of them.
>>> M.
>>
>> I should hope that would be meta-sausages, rather than meat sausages...
>
> I knew it, I knew it. :-)
> M.
straight line :-)
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Mar 25, 2013, 7:13:18 AM3/25/13
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Apr 9, 2013, 7:50:03 AM4/9/13
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Hunger = Healthy
Source:
https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/053043405ea909a0?
Background: It has been extensively shown, mainly in US populations,
that sugar-sweetened beverages (SSBs) are associated with increased
risk of type 2 diabetes (T2D), but less is known about the effects of
artificially sweetened beverages (ASBs).
Objective: We evaluated the association between self-reported SSB,
ASB, and 100% fruit juice consumption and T2D risk over 14 y of
follow-up in the French prospective Etude Epid�miologique aupr�s des
Source:
https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/053043405ea909a0?
Background: It has been extensively shown, mainly in US populations,
that sugar-sweetened beverages (SSBs) are associated with increased
risk of type 2 diabetes (T2D), but less is known about the effects of
artificially sweetened beverages (ASBs).
Objective: We evaluated the association between self-reported SSB,
ASB, and 100% fruit juice consumption and T2D risk over 14 y of
femmes de la Mutuelle G�n�rale de l'Education Nationale�European
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Apr 10, 2013, 7:58:30 AM4/10/13
to
Hunger = Healthy
Source:
https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/053043405ea909a0?
Background: It has been extensively shown, mainly in US populations,
that sugar-sweetened beverages (SSBs) are associated with increased
risk of type 2 diabetes (T2D), but less is known about the effects of
artificially sweetened beverages (ASBs).
Objective: We evaluated the association between self-reported SSB,
ASB, and 100% fruit juice consumption and T2D risk over 14 y of follow-
up in the French prospective Etude Epidémiologique auprès des femmes
Source:
https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/053043405ea909a0?
Background: It has been extensively shown, mainly in US populations,
that sugar-sweetened beverages (SSBs) are associated with increased
risk of type 2 diabetes (T2D), but less is known about the effects of
artificially sweetened beverages (ASBs).
Objective: We evaluated the association between self-reported SSB,
ASB, and 100% fruit juice consumption and T2D risk over 14 y of follow-
de la Mutuelle Générale de l'Education Nationale–European Prospective
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Apr 11, 2013, 7:12:25 AM4/11/13
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Apr 12, 2013, 8:06:55 AM4/12/13
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Apr 21, 2013, 3:37:00 AM4/21/13
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Hunger = Healthy
Source:
https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/053043405ea909a0?
Background: It has been extensively shown, mainly in US populations,
that sugar-sweetened beverages (SSBs) are associated with increased
risk of type 2 diabetes (T2D), but less is known about the effects of
artificially sweetened beverages (ASBs).
Objective: We evaluated the association between self-reported SSB,
ASB, and 100% fruit juice consumption and T2D risk over 14 y of
follow-up in the French prospective Etude Epid�miologique aupr�s des
Source:
https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/053043405ea909a0?
Background: It has been extensively shown, mainly in US populations,
that sugar-sweetened beverages (SSBs) are associated with increased
risk of type 2 diabetes (T2D), but less is known about the effects of
artificially sweetened beverages (ASBs).
Objective: We evaluated the association between self-reported SSB,
ASB, and 100% fruit juice consumption and T2D risk over 14 y of
femmes de la Mutuelle G�n�rale de l'Education Nationale�European
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
May 4, 2013, 7:24:01 AM5/4/13
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Hunger = Healthy
Source:
https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/053043405ea909a0?
Background: It has been extensively shown, mainly in US populations,
that sugar-sweetened beverages (SSBs) are associated with increased
risk of type 2 diabetes (T2D), but less is known about the effects of
artificially sweetened beverages (ASBs).
Objective: We evaluated the association between self-reported SSB,
ASB, and 100% fruit juice consumption and T2D risk over 14 y of follow-
up in the French prospective Etude Epidémiologique auprès des femmes
Source:
https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/053043405ea909a0?
Background: It has been extensively shown, mainly in US populations,
that sugar-sweetened beverages (SSBs) are associated with increased
risk of type 2 diabetes (T2D), but less is known about the effects of
artificially sweetened beverages (ASBs).
Objective: We evaluated the association between self-reported SSB,
ASB, and 100% fruit juice consumption and T2D risk over 14 y of follow-
de la Mutuelle Générale de l'Education Nationale–European Prospective
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
May 10, 2013, 8:18:58 PM5/10/13
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May 10, 2013, 8:34:28 PM5/10/13
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
hi i'm a boner
hi i'm a boner
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
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Jimmy Alpha
May 13, 2013, 10:25:43 AM5/13/13
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On 5/13/2013 7:56 AM, sightwalker with a phd said:
> Hunger = Healthy
>
> Source:
> https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/055ea909a0?
> Hunger = Healthy
>
> Source:
>
> Comment:
>
> Because 100% fruit juice is perceived to be liquid food, folks
> drinking it are not doing it to kill their hunger (i.e. they do not
> suffer from the "hunger is starvation" delusion).
>
> Otoh, the reason why folks are drinking SSBs and ASBs is to kill their
> hunger (i.e. these folks are suffering from the "hunger is starvation"
> delusion).
>
> Bottom line: The "hunger is starvation" delusion is what is actually
> causing type-2 diabetes because it compels people to mindlessly
> acquire visceral adipose tissue (VAT --> http://WDJW.net/VAT ) by
> overeating.
>
> Behold in amazement the following example...
>
> Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "I'm starving!"
For sex perhaps?
> Comment:
>
> Because 100% fruit juice is perceived to be liquid food, folks
> drinking it are not doing it to kill their hunger (i.e. they do not
> suffer from the "hunger is starvation" delusion).
>
> Otoh, the reason why folks are drinking SSBs and ASBs is to kill their
> hunger (i.e. these folks are suffering from the "hunger is starvation"
> delusion).
>
> Bottom line: The "hunger is starvation" delusion is what is actually
> causing type-2 diabetes because it compels people to mindlessly
> acquire visceral adipose tissue (VAT --> http://WDJW.net/VAT ) by
> overeating.
>
> Behold in amazement the following example...
>
> Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "I'm starving!"
> Source:
> https://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diabetes/msg/e55dfa1c1?
>
>
> "I'm starving! I think I'm gonna die!" -- Julie Bove
Clue for Julie, odds are greater of dieing than living forever.
>
> "I'm starving! I think I'm gonna die!" -- Julie Bove
> Source:
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/15d86f781e2?
>
>> Ate a handful of peanuts. Didn't quell the hunger.
>
> That which kills the hunger would be killing you.
Sex is great for hunger, as well as a stress reliever, and it's the
>> Ate a handful of peanuts. Didn't quell the hunger.
>
> That which kills the hunger would be killing you.
cigarettes after that may kill.
> If you were to increase the amount of peanuts to 100 lbs, it would
> likely kill the hunger and you.
>> So I ate a bowl of little dill pickles and a few black olives. Still hungry. Grrr...
>
> Yes, your "hunger is starvation" delusion is what caused you to have
> type-2 diabetes from the outset.
the after smoke.
> Indeed, only the truth (John 14:6) can cure you:
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Emory's IMVC.org Cardiologist (GA Lic#040347)
> https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e66b12b6?
Jimmy Alpha GeD
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
May 14, 2013, 8:29:09 AM5/14/13
to
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
May 15, 2013, 7:56:16 AM5/15/13
to
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
May 16, 2013, 6:39:40 AM5/16/13
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
May 17, 2013, 9:19:54 AM5/17/13
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
May 18, 2013, 8:20:45 AM5/18/13
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
May 19, 2013, 7:30:50 AM5/19/13
to
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
May 20, 2013, 8:23:23 AM5/20/13
to
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
May 21, 2013, 7:52:06 AM5/21/13
to
Ken
May 21, 2013, 11:31:20 AM5/21/13
to
Only an Insane/Mentally Defective Obsessive Compulsive Quack like Andy
Chung da Chink
would spend several hours EVERY DAY repeating the same worthless,
mindless, useless BULLSHIT that no one gives a flying fuck about
Chung da Chink
would spend several hours EVERY DAY repeating the same worthless,
mindless, useless BULLSHIT that no one gives a flying fuck about
Happy Oyster
May 22, 2013, 7:43:02 PM5/22/13
to
--
Crowd-funding is for money, crowd-publishing is for mankind.
http://www.supermanpost.com/
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
May 23, 2013, 11:25:06 PM5/23/13
to
%
May 23, 2013, 11:35:49 PM5/23/13
to
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> Hunger = Healthy
>
> Source:
> https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/053043405ea909a0?
>
> Background: It has been extensively shown, mainly in US populations,
> that sugar-sweetened beverages (SSBs) are associated with increased
> risk of type 2 diabetes (T2D), but less is known about the effects of
> artificially sweetened beverages (ASBs).
>
> Objective: We evaluated the association between self-reported SSB,
> ASB, and 100% fruit juice consumption and T2D risk over 14 y of
> follow-
> up in the French prospective Etude Epid�miologique aupr�s des femmes
>
> Source:
> https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/053043405ea909a0?
>
> Background: It has been extensively shown, mainly in US populations,
> that sugar-sweetened beverages (SSBs) are associated with increased
> risk of type 2 diabetes (T2D), but less is known about the effects of
> artificially sweetened beverages (ASBs).
>
> Objective: We evaluated the association between self-reported SSB,
> ASB, and 100% fruit juice consumption and T2D risk over 14 y of
> follow-
> de la Mutuelle G�n�rale de l'Education Nationale�European Prospective
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
May 24, 2013, 8:10:47 AM5/24/13
to
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
May 24, 2013, 9:30:40 PM5/24/13
to
an atheist asked:
> Why does you god let millions of children die of starvation when he
> could give them Manna like he did for the Moses character?
Source:
http://bit.ly/11c8QgW
"For now, I am allowing you to murder children by your eating their
portion of food in your commission of the sin of gluttony for then it
would be absolutely right for you to die as a consequence." -- Holy
Spirit (Proverbs 23:2 and Romans 6:23)
Laus Deo !!!
http://WDJW.net/LausDeo
"For to us a Child is born, to us a Son is given, and the government
will be on His shoulders (Matthew 12:25). And He will be called
Wonderful Counselor (Luke 12:25), Mighty GOD (Mark 12:25), Everlasting
Father (John 12:25), Prince of Peace ( http://WDJW.net/PrinceOfPeace
)." (Isaiah 9:6) Yes, 12:25 really is the birthday of our risen LORD
Jesus 'Christ' of Nazareth. Laus Deo :-)
LORD Jesus Christ says "you are My friends if you do what I
command"(John 15:14) and "if you love Me, you will obey what I
command."(John 14:15)
The LORD commands His disciples, who are mindful of WDJW and are doing
what He wants, to "love each other as I have loved you."(John 15:12)
http://WDJW.net
The LORD teaches "greater love has no one than this, that he lay down
his life for his friends"(John 15:13) thereby meeting unwanted needs.
Friends don't want friends to die.
This is how we, who are Jesus' disciples (either Jew or gentile),
should love one another. We should mindfully choose to openly care
with our heart so that we would be willing to die for each other
because our LORD has been willing to die for each of us and indeed has
died for each of us so that we may have eternal life (John 3:16).
May dear neighbors, friends, and brethren have a blessedly wonderful
life in remembrance of the birth of our LORD Jesus Christ as our
Messiah, the Son of Man:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/ba987143725c5298?
Don't be like satan, who is not hungry as evident by his eating dust/
dirt (Genesis 3:14) instead of real food:
https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?
Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for the
heart:
http://www.11alive.com/news/article/251415/3/Doctor-Touts-Hunger (Luke
6:21a) with all glory to GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy
8:3) when He blesses us right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby removing the
http://WDJW.net/VAT from around the heart
... because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Emory's IMVC.org Cardiologist (GA Lic#040347)
and Author of "Trust the Truth - Only the truth can cure the 'hunger
is starvation' delusion:"
http://www.amazon.com/Trust-Truth-hunger-starvation-delusion/dp/1440147663/
"no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit."(1Cor12:3)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/035c93540862751c?
What are the Keys of the Kingdom of Heaven?
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/470799ce370a2ff2?
What is the "hunger is starvation" delusion?
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/74281ab7d7ce78de?
> Why does you god let millions of children die of starvation when he
> could give them Manna like he did for the Moses character?
Source:
http://bit.ly/11c8QgW
"For now, I am allowing you to murder children by your eating their
portion of food in your commission of the sin of gluttony for then it
would be absolutely right for you to die as a consequence." -- Holy
Spirit (Proverbs 23:2 and Romans 6:23)
Laus Deo !!!
http://WDJW.net/LausDeo
"For to us a Child is born, to us a Son is given, and the government
will be on His shoulders (Matthew 12:25). And He will be called
Wonderful Counselor (Luke 12:25), Mighty GOD (Mark 12:25), Everlasting
Father (John 12:25), Prince of Peace ( http://WDJW.net/PrinceOfPeace
)." (Isaiah 9:6) Yes, 12:25 really is the birthday of our risen LORD
Jesus 'Christ' of Nazareth. Laus Deo :-)
LORD Jesus Christ says "you are My friends if you do what I
command"(John 15:14) and "if you love Me, you will obey what I
command."(John 14:15)
The LORD commands His disciples, who are mindful of WDJW and are doing
what He wants, to "love each other as I have loved you."(John 15:12)
http://WDJW.net
The LORD teaches "greater love has no one than this, that he lay down
his life for his friends"(John 15:13) thereby meeting unwanted needs.
Friends don't want friends to die.
This is how we, who are Jesus' disciples (either Jew or gentile),
should love one another. We should mindfully choose to openly care
with our heart so that we would be willing to die for each other
because our LORD has been willing to die for each of us and indeed has
died for each of us so that we may have eternal life (John 3:16).
May dear neighbors, friends, and brethren have a blessedly wonderful
life in remembrance of the birth of our LORD Jesus Christ as our
Messiah, the Son of Man:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/ba987143725c5298?
Don't be like satan, who is not hungry as evident by his eating dust/
dirt (Genesis 3:14) instead of real food:
https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?
Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for the
heart:
http://www.11alive.com/news/article/251415/3/Doctor-Touts-Hunger (Luke
6:21a) with all glory to GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy
8:3) when He blesses us right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby removing the
http://WDJW.net/VAT from around the heart
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Emory's IMVC.org Cardiologist (GA Lic#040347)
is starvation' delusion:"
http://www.amazon.com/Trust-Truth-hunger-starvation-delusion/dp/1440147663/
"no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit."(1Cor12:3)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/035c93540862751c?
What are the Keys of the Kingdom of Heaven?
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/470799ce370a2ff2?
What is the "hunger is starvation" delusion?
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/74281ab7d7ce78de?
%
May 24, 2013, 9:34:27 PM5/24/13
to
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
Ken
May 24, 2013, 9:38:52 PM5/24/13
to
Only a Mentally Unbalanced Obsessive Compulsive Quack like Chung da
pointless, useless BULLSHIT that everyone ignores
Chink would
spend several hours
EVERY DAY endlessly repeating his same worthless, mindless,
spend several hours
pointless, useless BULLSHIT that everyone ignores
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
May 25, 2013, 7:06:50 PM5/25/13
to
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
May 26, 2013, 9:30:10 PM5/26/13
to
an atheist asked:
> Why does you god let millions of children die of starvation when he
> could give them Manna like he did for the Moses character?
Source:
http://bit.ly/11c8QgW
"For now, I am allowing you to murder children by your eating their
portion of food in your commission of the sin of gluttony for then it
would be absolutely right for you to die as a consequence." -- Holy
Spirit (Proverbs 23:2, John 5:14, and Romans 6:23)
> Why does you god let millions of children die of starvation when he
> could give them Manna like he did for the Moses character?
Source:
http://bit.ly/11c8QgW
"For now, I am allowing you to murder children by your eating their
portion of food in your commission of the sin of gluttony for then it
would be absolutely right for you to die as a consequence." -- Holy
Ken
May 26, 2013, 9:43:06 PM5/26/13
to
Only a Mentally Unbalanced Obsessive Compulsive Quack like Chung da
Chink would
spend several hours
EVERY DAY endlessly repeating his same worthless, mindless,
pointless, useless religious BULLSHIT that everyone ignores
Chink would
spend several hours
EVERY DAY endlessly repeating his same worthless, mindless,
%
May 26, 2013, 9:59:29 PM5/26/13
to
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
May 27, 2013, 7:46:54 AM5/27/13
to
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
May 28, 2013, 6:55:07 AM5/28/13
to
Ken
May 28, 2013, 10:00:54 AM5/28/13
to
Only a Mentally Unbalanced Obsessive Compulsive Quack like Chung da
Chink would spend several hours
EVERY DAY endlessly repeating his same worthless, mindless,
pointless, useless, purposeless religious BULLSHIT that everyone
Chink would spend several hours
EVERY DAY endlessly repeating his same worthless, mindless,
ignores
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
May 29, 2013, 9:48:08 AM5/29/13
to
Ken
May 29, 2013, 11:29:44 AM5/29/13
to
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
May 30, 2013, 7:17:41 AM5/30/13
to
Ken
May 30, 2013, 9:26:51 AM5/30/13
to
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
May 31, 2013, 9:15:14 AM5/31/13
to
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Jun 1, 2013, 6:04:56 AM6/1/13
to
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Jun 2, 2013, 7:07:40 AM6/2/13
to
GSI
Jun 2, 2013, 8:40:13 AM6/2/13
to
sci.med.cardiology,alt.support.diabetes,alt.christnet.christianlife,alt.bible.prophecy,alt.christnet.prayer
alt.support.diabetes,alt.christnet.christianlife,alt.bible.prophecy,alt.christnet.prayer,alt.christnet.theology
Chung is an ARROGANT, INSANE, SPAMMING P.O.S.,
and everyone on Usenet knows it.
He's a loser and a sick, insane, creep with no friends,
here or anywhere.
Chung placed under arrest:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/43c54ad99711bfc3
Chung terminated:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/ecb9c21ab9e36ecf
Chung banned by real Christians:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f5b198e1c2e93d7c
Chung implicated in wrongful death:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/686660817c873803
Chung medical certification expired:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.christnet.christianlife/msg/2ba5eca58f94e225
WARNING: Chung is TOTALLY INSANE.
Andrew B. Chung is a destroyer of Usenet. I hope that
someday, the extremely arrogant Mr. Andrew B Chung
pays for the destruction he has wrought upon Usenet,
especially, the all-Chung-spam, sci.med.cardiology, a
formerly very helpful Usenet site for people with serious
heart problems, now totally destroyed by an egomaniac.
Chung's total arrogance has also destroyed
alt.christnet.christianlife, alt.support.diabetes, and
misc.health.alternative. Chung is an supremely arrogant
person, totally egocentric. Pure ego. All ego, and
nothing but ego. There is NO CURE for this condition.
There is a long-term dietary cure, but the patient is
always far too arrogant to follow it. They KNOW the
answer to EVERY question, and they are "always right".
In the most extreme cases, they even KNOW how "God"
and "Jesus" want the rest of us to live. (A. B. Chung)
A small percentage of the population is like this, one
percent or less. Such people are usually unable to get
along with others, and have no real friends. They know
something is not right, but keep quiet about it, and try
to behave "normally".
Many of them pursue fame with extreme determination.
An example is Anna Nicole Smith.
Chung's goal is to someday sit to the left of "God" with
"Jesus" on the right, in "God's" "Heavenly Palace".
WARNING: Chung is TOTALLY INSANE.
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
WELCOME TO THE ASSHOLE OF USENET, i.e. AN ANDREW B. CHUNG POST.
GROUND ZERO FOR USENET'S MOST INSANE, ARROGANT, SPAMMING CREEP.
WARNING: Chung is a "dongdan" (cross-dresser, drag-queen) serial
cyberstalker, particularly of gay, and especially, trans-gender males.
WARNING!! YOU HAVE CLICKED ON ANDREW B. CHUNG SPAM
CHUNG IS INSANE! HE IS A DANGEROUS PERSON. HE IS A TOTAL
EGOIST - ALL EGO AND NOTHING BUT DIAMOND-HARD EGO.
CHUNG IS ON A QUEST FOR GLORY SUFFICIENT TO MATCH SIZE
OF HIS ENORMOUS EGO. CHUNG BELIEVES HE WILL SOMEDAY
SIT IN GOD'S HEAVENLY PALACE TO THE LEFT OF GOD WITH
JESUS ON THE RIGHT. CHUNG IS TOTALLY INSANE.
WARNING: Chung posts links to his website in order to sell the Chung
"2PD-OMER" diet, a diet that combines "religious" extremism with
dietary extremism. The origin of this quack diet is Chung's
interpretation of biblical scripture in which he reveals that both
"Jesus" and "God" carried around scales and religiously weighed
everything they ate, never consuming more than a biblical "OMER",
todays equivalent of 2 pounds according to Chung's "calculations".
Chung further claims that WHAT you eat is not important, eat roadkill
if you like. Just don't get carried away and consume more than 2
pounds. Chung adds in the strongest terms, that going over 2 pounds
even once is a "perishing soul" offense, and warns that his Messiah,
"LORD" Jesus Christ, teacher of love and forgiveness, will personally
roast alive all offenders.
The dietary insane blather of Andrew B. Chung:
"Moreover, the fact that babies are born hungry with empty stomachs
**and** functioning brains is absolute scientific proof that hunger
does not destroy brain cells but rather promotes their rapid growth as
evident by what happens in utero."
GSI response: Babies are nourished by the mothers blood through the
umbilical cord and placenta, as anyone who has taken first year biology
in High School knows. Chung shows almost NO real medical knowledge. No
medically trained person would EVER write the bullshit sentence above.
"Actually, hunger for real food is simply a desire to eat real food
that is verified by the ability to eat real food and may be accompanied
by stomach sounds that allow others to verify the desire to eat real
food even **before** the eating happens." -Andrew B. Chung
( We are so lucky here on UseNet to have free access to the hard earned
wisdom of brilliant medical professionals like Dr. Chung - "Hunger for
real food is simply a desire to eat real food that is verified by the
ability to eat real food." Wow!, who would have guessed? )
"Hunger for real food does not indicate a need for real food as evident
by this desire often increasing when the food is especially palatable
in the middle of eating the "right" daily amount (32 oz, one "OMER")
when any real need would be decreasing." -Andrew B. Chung
GSI response: here Chung, in his determination to be "right", hopes
that you won't notice that "need" and "desire" don't mean the same
thing.
Chung, take your 2 digit IQ, moronic, "diet" bullshit to the
appropriate newsgroups. "alt.christnet.christianlife,
alt.bible.prophecy" etc. are not the place for arrogant hourly "status"
updates on how many ounces of food an arrogant spamming
asshole-"religious" hustler has consumed. What you are doing here is
PURE ARROGANCE. There is NOTHING "holy" or "righteous" about it. You
and your sock-puppets are ARROGANT. The rigid "diet" you promote leads
to making you even more arrogant, i.e. bigger ASSHOLES. Though it
hardly seems possible, you will become even more egocentric, rigid, and
self-righteous."
No medical professional would EVER endorse your QUACK diet. Just as no
real scientist would ever endorse Creationism. Both are what happens
when stupid people attempt to force their stupid, LITERAL
interpretation of the Bible into the fields of science and medicine, to
"PROVE" that THEY are the "smart" ones. Food is primarily fuel. There
is NO ONE RIGHT AMOUNT for all people in all climates and all daily
activities, any more than there is one "right" amount of gas for your
car. A lumberjack cannot do a days work on 32 oz. of food, while for
instance, an arrogant, INSANE, internet spammer like Chung probably
could. And it DOES matter WHAT you eat.
The 2IQ-MRON diet is pure 2 digit IQ Evangelical BULLSHIT, and an
attempt to extend Christian Evangelicalism into a highly profitable,
low risk, field of medicine. The suggestion that REAL medical
professionals at Emory University are supporting this BS is laughable.
The janitorial staff at Emory is smarter than that. Supply the phone
number of ONE medical professional who supports the idea that "God",
via INSANE Usenet spammer, Andrew B. Chung, has instructed all humans
to consume exactly 2 pounds of food daily, regardless of sex, age,
weight, activity, body-type/metabolism, climate, etc. to back up these
claims. Any medical professional supporting this diet should lose his
medical license immediately, and that includes Dr. Chung himself.
The Egomaniac "HeartDoc" explains why it doesn't matter that he has
lost his medical board-certification: (short answer-
"GOD-sanctification is infinitely greater than board-certification" -
A.B.Chung)
"This actively practicing physician ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc )
continues to be very well-compensated as a cardiologist b/c he is known
by all to be one of a chosen few to have the power of the Holy Spirit (
http://WDJW.net/HolySpirit ) to heal/cure/reverse (Mark 16:18) heart
disease including type-2 diabetes, which is a CAD equivalent, while
giving all the glory to GOD as seen on network TV:
Behold as http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc Andrew gives all the glory to GOD as
the http://www.11alive.com/news/article/251415/3/Doctor-Touts-Hunger
(Luke 6:21a) with all glory to GOD, Who causes (Deuteronomy 8:3) him to
hunger so that he can thrive as he enjoys his meals more than ever:
http://WDJW.net/LausDeo :-)
Bottom line concerning http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc Andrew being perfect
(Matthew 5:48):
GOD-sanctification (1 Thessalonians 5:23) is infinitely greater than
board-certification for He makes the latter eternal (1 Corinthians 2:9)
without need for eternal fee payments to ABIM :-)"
GSI response: I guess it's OK to practice medicine without a license,
as long as you have "GOD-sanctification", like the INSANE egomaniac,
Andrew B Chung.
WARNING:CHUNG ALERT!!! v1.94
alt.support.diabetes,alt.christnet.christianlife,alt.bible.prophecy,alt.christnet.prayer,alt.christnet.theology
Chung is an ARROGANT, INSANE, SPAMMING P.O.S.,
and everyone on Usenet knows it.
He's a loser and a sick, insane, creep with no friends,
here or anywhere.
Chung placed under arrest:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/43c54ad99711bfc3
Chung terminated:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/ecb9c21ab9e36ecf
Chung banned by real Christians:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f5b198e1c2e93d7c
Chung implicated in wrongful death:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/686660817c873803
Chung medical certification expired:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.christnet.christianlife/msg/2ba5eca58f94e225
WARNING: Chung is TOTALLY INSANE.
Andrew B. Chung is a destroyer of Usenet. I hope that
someday, the extremely arrogant Mr. Andrew B Chung
pays for the destruction he has wrought upon Usenet,
especially, the all-Chung-spam, sci.med.cardiology, a
formerly very helpful Usenet site for people with serious
heart problems, now totally destroyed by an egomaniac.
Chung's total arrogance has also destroyed
alt.christnet.christianlife, alt.support.diabetes, and
misc.health.alternative. Chung is an supremely arrogant
person, totally egocentric. Pure ego. All ego, and
nothing but ego. There is NO CURE for this condition.
There is a long-term dietary cure, but the patient is
always far too arrogant to follow it. They KNOW the
answer to EVERY question, and they are "always right".
In the most extreme cases, they even KNOW how "God"
and "Jesus" want the rest of us to live. (A. B. Chung)
A small percentage of the population is like this, one
percent or less. Such people are usually unable to get
along with others, and have no real friends. They know
something is not right, but keep quiet about it, and try
to behave "normally".
Many of them pursue fame with extreme determination.
An example is Anna Nicole Smith.
Chung's goal is to someday sit to the left of "God" with
"Jesus" on the right, in "God's" "Heavenly Palace".
WARNING: Chung is TOTALLY INSANE.
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
WELCOME TO THE ASSHOLE OF USENET, i.e. AN ANDREW B. CHUNG POST.
GROUND ZERO FOR USENET'S MOST INSANE, ARROGANT, SPAMMING CREEP.
WARNING: Chung is a "dongdan" (cross-dresser, drag-queen) serial
cyberstalker, particularly of gay, and especially, trans-gender males.
WARNING!! YOU HAVE CLICKED ON ANDREW B. CHUNG SPAM
CHUNG IS INSANE! HE IS A DANGEROUS PERSON. HE IS A TOTAL
EGOIST - ALL EGO AND NOTHING BUT DIAMOND-HARD EGO.
CHUNG IS ON A QUEST FOR GLORY SUFFICIENT TO MATCH SIZE
OF HIS ENORMOUS EGO. CHUNG BELIEVES HE WILL SOMEDAY
SIT IN GOD'S HEAVENLY PALACE TO THE LEFT OF GOD WITH
JESUS ON THE RIGHT. CHUNG IS TOTALLY INSANE.
WARNING: Chung posts links to his website in order to sell the Chung
"2PD-OMER" diet, a diet that combines "religious" extremism with
dietary extremism. The origin of this quack diet is Chung's
interpretation of biblical scripture in which he reveals that both
"Jesus" and "God" carried around scales and religiously weighed
everything they ate, never consuming more than a biblical "OMER",
todays equivalent of 2 pounds according to Chung's "calculations".
Chung further claims that WHAT you eat is not important, eat roadkill
if you like. Just don't get carried away and consume more than 2
pounds. Chung adds in the strongest terms, that going over 2 pounds
even once is a "perishing soul" offense, and warns that his Messiah,
"LORD" Jesus Christ, teacher of love and forgiveness, will personally
roast alive all offenders.
The dietary insane blather of Andrew B. Chung:
"Moreover, the fact that babies are born hungry with empty stomachs
**and** functioning brains is absolute scientific proof that hunger
does not destroy brain cells but rather promotes their rapid growth as
evident by what happens in utero."
GSI response: Babies are nourished by the mothers blood through the
umbilical cord and placenta, as anyone who has taken first year biology
in High School knows. Chung shows almost NO real medical knowledge. No
medically trained person would EVER write the bullshit sentence above.
"Actually, hunger for real food is simply a desire to eat real food
that is verified by the ability to eat real food and may be accompanied
by stomach sounds that allow others to verify the desire to eat real
food even **before** the eating happens." -Andrew B. Chung
( We are so lucky here on UseNet to have free access to the hard earned
wisdom of brilliant medical professionals like Dr. Chung - "Hunger for
real food is simply a desire to eat real food that is verified by the
ability to eat real food." Wow!, who would have guessed? )
"Hunger for real food does not indicate a need for real food as evident
by this desire often increasing when the food is especially palatable
in the middle of eating the "right" daily amount (32 oz, one "OMER")
when any real need would be decreasing." -Andrew B. Chung
GSI response: here Chung, in his determination to be "right", hopes
that you won't notice that "need" and "desire" don't mean the same
thing.
Chung, take your 2 digit IQ, moronic, "diet" bullshit to the
appropriate newsgroups. "alt.christnet.christianlife,
alt.bible.prophecy" etc. are not the place for arrogant hourly "status"
updates on how many ounces of food an arrogant spamming
asshole-"religious" hustler has consumed. What you are doing here is
PURE ARROGANCE. There is NOTHING "holy" or "righteous" about it. You
and your sock-puppets are ARROGANT. The rigid "diet" you promote leads
to making you even more arrogant, i.e. bigger ASSHOLES. Though it
hardly seems possible, you will become even more egocentric, rigid, and
self-righteous."
No medical professional would EVER endorse your QUACK diet. Just as no
real scientist would ever endorse Creationism. Both are what happens
when stupid people attempt to force their stupid, LITERAL
interpretation of the Bible into the fields of science and medicine, to
"PROVE" that THEY are the "smart" ones. Food is primarily fuel. There
is NO ONE RIGHT AMOUNT for all people in all climates and all daily
activities, any more than there is one "right" amount of gas for your
car. A lumberjack cannot do a days work on 32 oz. of food, while for
instance, an arrogant, INSANE, internet spammer like Chung probably
could. And it DOES matter WHAT you eat.
The 2IQ-MRON diet is pure 2 digit IQ Evangelical BULLSHIT, and an
attempt to extend Christian Evangelicalism into a highly profitable,
low risk, field of medicine. The suggestion that REAL medical
professionals at Emory University are supporting this BS is laughable.
The janitorial staff at Emory is smarter than that. Supply the phone
number of ONE medical professional who supports the idea that "God",
via INSANE Usenet spammer, Andrew B. Chung, has instructed all humans
to consume exactly 2 pounds of food daily, regardless of sex, age,
weight, activity, body-type/metabolism, climate, etc. to back up these
claims. Any medical professional supporting this diet should lose his
medical license immediately, and that includes Dr. Chung himself.
The Egomaniac "HeartDoc" explains why it doesn't matter that he has
lost his medical board-certification: (short answer-
"GOD-sanctification is infinitely greater than board-certification" -
A.B.Chung)
"This actively practicing physician ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc )
continues to be very well-compensated as a cardiologist b/c he is known
by all to be one of a chosen few to have the power of the Holy Spirit (
http://WDJW.net/HolySpirit ) to heal/cure/reverse (Mark 16:18) heart
disease including type-2 diabetes, which is a CAD equivalent, while
giving all the glory to GOD as seen on network TV:
Behold as http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc Andrew gives all the glory to GOD as
the http://www.11alive.com/news/article/251415/3/Doctor-Touts-Hunger
(Luke 6:21a) with all glory to GOD, Who causes (Deuteronomy 8:3) him to
hunger so that he can thrive as he enjoys his meals more than ever:
http://WDJW.net/LausDeo :-)
Bottom line concerning http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc Andrew being perfect
(Matthew 5:48):
GOD-sanctification (1 Thessalonians 5:23) is infinitely greater than
board-certification for He makes the latter eternal (1 Corinthians 2:9)
without need for eternal fee payments to ABIM :-)"
GSI response: I guess it's OK to practice medicine without a license,
as long as you have "GOD-sanctification", like the INSANE egomaniac,
Andrew B Chung.
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