FCON?
Greegor
So in order to have privacy I would have
to assign a portion of my hard disk to
hold encrypted information for OTHER
people, like child porn freaks?
Do YOU really want encrypted data from kid
porn freaks, criminals and Al Qaeda on
YOUR computer?
Explain how that's a good idea! LOL
And this bologna about this giving freedom
to people living in repressive regimes?
I just don't buy the "repressive regime" explanation.
If some citizen of China or Iran starts doing peer to
peer or chaining nodes, why do you think authorities
there can't spot that and ARREST them?
The truth is that anonymous services are used more
for kid porn and other criminal activity than to
circumvent any repressive regime.
They are also used online for FORGERIES,
SPORGERIES, SPAM and stalking or harassment.
Noone
> I just don't buy the "repressive regime" explanation.
>
> If some citizen of China or Iran starts doing peer to
> peer or chaining nodes, why do you think authorities
> there can't spot that and ARREST them?
>
I'm bored, I'll play again for a little while.
You demonstrate a fairly low IQ. The technologies have shown
recent proof of their use in many major news stories. Pretty much
everything you read on the net that some restrictive government did
not want there got out via some private Internet method, whether by
proxy, remailer, private cloud, our other.
I do realize this concept evades you completely because your sole
mindset is "screw any positive use of any of these privacy and
anonymity technologies, I'll just refuse to believe any positive
use of any of them exists at all, shut it all down because some
negative use happens". You can't debate a closed minded individual
such as yourself. You don't possess the intelligence required to
be able to see both sides of the argument. It's your way only. I
understand this.
Fortunately far more people exist with the intelligence to
understand that while the abuse that happens is unfortunate, it is
a small price to pay for the benefits of such technologies. This
makes your opinion an irrelevant minority one, shared by few
others. You are welcome to continue shouting from the peaks of the
net. It will continue to have the same effect of the drunken guy
shouting about the mind rays the FBI is testing on us all in the
square. People just look at you as just another of those kooks and
move on.
By the by, I suppose you think camels smuggled out microfiche of
Iranian demonstrations in butt balloons and it was then released on
the Internet by the poor sap who's job it was to open those
balloons and do so? After all, in your head Iran and these other
countries barely have Internet and that which they do have not a
single packet moves out without government approval, right?
Greegor
You never explained how users should be OK
with part of their hard disk holding encrypted kid porn!
Why is that?
Kent Wills
Because you want access to the porn, but don't want to risk having
it on your machine, Greg. DUH!
A select number of items that really are about Gregory Scott "Piggly
Wiggly" Hanson (either directly or through the same standards he
DEMANDS be held to others):
Title: ST VS GREGORY HANSON
(DOB 05/22/1959)
CRIMINAL COMPLAINT 04/10/1996
Comments: CT 1 OWI 1ST
OTHER CITATION 04/10/1996
Comments: CT 2 SPEED
Disposition Status
GUILTY PLEA/DEFAULT
"That's the chick, but not the pic, zipperhead!"
Greg "Piggly Wiggly" Hanson proving his bigotry towards Asians, by
attacking my first wife (deceased).
http://www.rsdb.org/search?q=zipperhead
Me: "I suspect your stalking is due to the use and abuse of illegal
drugs, Greg. Is the reason for your stalking the members of
alt.friends due to the use and abuse of illegal drugs?
Gregory Scott "Piggly Wiggly" Hanson, wife beater and child abuser:
"Of course."
"My family's case is for Neglect, but we are treated
in virtually every regard as child abusers, marked on
the Child Abuse registry, for example."
-- Gregory Scott "Piggly Wiggly" Hanson, wife beater and child
abuser
" ... But there ought to be conferences and studies on how to curb
minority overpopulation, repatriate minorities abroad, imprison more
minorities, increase use of the death penalty and divest minorities of
the power they have usurped over us in recent years. That would
address the most pressing problems of our day. ... "
April 2000, Gregory "Piggly Wiggly" Hanson
http://www.nationalist.org/ATW/2000/040101.html#Hanson
Path:
news.datemas.de!newsfeed.datemas.de!goblin1!goblin.stu.neva.ru!postnews.google.com!y21g2000yqn.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail
From: Greegor <gree...@gmail.com>
Newsgroups:
misc.kids,alt.support.foster-parents,uk.people.parents,alt.support.child-protective-services
With the Christmas season upon us again, my stepdaughter was launching
into her usual tirade of "I need this" (Nintendo 64 games, Pokemon,
videos, Rhianna CD, etc.) After enduring a trip through Kmart, I
was at my wits end. I took the kid home and filled the bathtub with
water. Then I dunked the brat's head under the water and counted out
a full minute, with her flailing her arms. I brought her up and she
gasped for air. When she'd caught her breath, I asked her, "When you
were under that water, did you 'need' Nintendo? Pokemon? Rhianna?"
She shook her head. "What were you thinking about?" I
prodded. She told me "I was thinking that I needed air."
"Now you know the difference between 'need' and 'want'" I exclaimed
triumphantly.
--a true story
As of Sunday, Nov. 29, 2009:
Financials
Title: STATE OF IOWA VS HANSON, GREG SCOTT
Case: 06571 AGCR015216 (LINN)
Citation Number:
Summary Orig Paid Due
COSTS 9200.00 850.00 8350.00
FINE 500.00 500.00 0.00
SURCHARGE 150.00 150.00 0.00
RESTITUTION 0.00 0.00 0.00
OTHER 0.00 0.00 0.00
$9850.00 $1500.00 $8350.00
Yes, Gregory Scott "Piggly Wiggly" Hanson still owes over
$8000.00 related to his convictions for BEATING his ex-wife.
"I am now a "founded" child abuser for making a
7 year old take a fast cold shower."
-- Gregory Scot "Piggly Wiggly" Hanson bragging in MID
<cu6H6.14493$3c6.3...@news1.elmhst1.il.home.com>
Greegor
G >
G > You never explained how users should be OK
G > with part of their hard disk holding encrypted kid porn!
G >
G >Why is that?
KBW > Because you want access to the
KBW > porn, but don't want to risk having it
KBW > on your machine, Greg. DUH!
Kent Wills, ever the con artist.
Kent Bradley Wills AKA Compuelf DOB Jan 8 1969 Felony Garage Burglar
used teen as accomplice
Kent routinely says opponents are
A. Drunks
B. Druggies
C. Mentally Ill
D. Already conceded to Kent's argument
E. Question was already asked and answered ( ? )
It's as if Kent is an automation that is WAY too simple.
Kent's Appeal
IN PRINTED LAW BOOKS
West's North Western Reporter
Second Series
A Unit of the National Reporter System
Volume 696 N.W.2d
Cite as 696 N.W.2d 20 (Iowa 2005)
Kent's Appeal
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=ia&vol=sc%5C20050506%5C04-0202&invol=1
http://www.doc.state.ia.us/InmateInfo.asp?OffenderCd=1155768
http://www.assess.co.polk.ia.us/cgi-bin/seephoto/photosize.cgi?gp=802415452029&size=Large
Notice that KENT made claims re sale of 202 NW College apartment
building
That's geoparcel gp=802415452029
http://www.iowacourts.state.ia.us/
( Step by step instructions elsewhere with name Kent B Wills )
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=ia&vol=sc%5C20050506%5C04-0202&invol=1
http://www.rogersgis.com/zoom/Residential_Development/indexfull.htm
http://www.arcountydata.com/county.asp?county=Benton
TWO of Kent Wills' usenet newsgroup identities:
Do It Yourself Instructions to look up Kent's record
Iowa Department of Corrections records for Kent
http://www.doc.state.ia.us/InmateInfo.asp?OffenderCd=1155768
Name Kent Bradley Wills [ As Collected Sept 13, 2009 ]
Offender Number 1155768
Sex M
Birth Date 01/08/1969
Age 40
Location
Offense
County Of Commitment
Commitment Date
Duration
TDD/SDD *
* TDD = Tentative Discharge Date
* SDD = Supervision Discharge Date
Supervision Status Offense Class County of Commitment End Date
Probation Aggravated Misdemeanor Polk 12/16/2008
Probation C Felony Polk 12/16/2008
Supervision Status Offense Class County of Commitment End Date
Probation Aggravated Misdemeanor Polk 11/25/2003
IN PRINTED LAW BOOKS
West's North Western Reporter
Second Series
A Unit of the National Reporter System
Volume 696 N.W.2d
Cite as 696 N.W.2d 20 (Iowa 2005)
Kent's Appeal
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=ia&vol=sc%5C20050506%5C04-0202&invol=1
IN THE SUPREME COURT OF IOWA
No. 31 / 04-0202
Filed May 6, 2005
STATE OF IOWA,
Appellee,
vs.
KENT BRADLEY WILLS,
Appellant.
Appeal from the Iowa District Court for Polk
County, Michael D. Huppert, Judge.
Defendant appeals claiming ineffective
assistance of counsel. AFFIRMED.
Linda Del Gallo, State Appellate Defender,
and Tricia Johnston, Assistant State
Appellate Defender, for appellant.
Thomas J. Miller, Attorney General, Kevin
Cmelik, Assistant Attorney General, John P.
Sarcone, County Attorney, and John Judisch,
Assistant County Attorney, for appellee.
WIGGINS, Justice.
Kent Wills appeals his conviction for
second-degree burglary contending that
an attached garage is a separate occupied
structure from that of the living quarters
of the residence. In this appeal, we must
determine whether trial counsel was
ineffective for (1) failing to move for
judgment of acquittal on the basis there
was insufficient evidence to convict Wills
of second-degree burglary when he entered
an attached garage of a residence when no
persons were present in the garage, but
when persons were present in the living
quarters; and (2) failing to object to a
jury instruction based on this same
argument. Because we find there was no
legal basis for the motion for judgment
of acquittal or the objection to the jury
instruction, Wills' trial counsel was not
ineffective. Accordingly, we affirm the
judgment of the district court.
I. Background Facts and Proceedings.
Around 1 a.m., an Ankeny resident called
the local police to report that a car
alarm sounded in the resident's
neighborhood. The city dispatched a police
officer to the location. Observing nothing
unusual, the officer left the area, only
to be stopped a couple of blocks later
by a person who informed the officer he
had witnessed someone running from the
area of the car alarm. As the officer
started driving back to the area of the
car alarm, he noticed a person walking
on the sidewalk. The officer asked the
person, a minor, if he had noticed anybody
running from the area. The minor answered
that he had not. While the officer and
another officer were speaking to the minor,
another resident of the neighborhood
arrived in her car and informed the
officers that she had observed two people,
one of whom was heavy set with a blinking
light on his back pocket, walking in the
area of her neighbor's residence. She
observed the heavier-set individual, later
identified as Wills, enter her neighbor's
attached garage through an unlocked service
door. She further observed a smaller
individual standing by a van parked in
the neighbor's driveway.
The officers eventually let the minor leave
even though they found a large amount of
coins, a flashlight, and an electronic
pocket organizer in his pockets. After
releasing the minor, the police officers
drove to the residence where the neighbor
observed the two suspicious people and
woke the owner. The owner, his wife,
and two daughters were in the residence
sleeping at the time. After a search
of his vehicles, the owner discovered
change and an electronic pocket organizer
were missing from the vehicles. The
owner's daughter reported a diamond ring
and some change were missing from her
vehicle. The officers then contacted
the minor's parents, who informed the
officers the minor was with Wills. After
the officers questioned the minor again,
he admitted his involvement in the theft
and implicated Wills in the burglary.
Although Wills denied involvement in the
burglary, the officers arrested him.
The State filed a trial information
charging Wills with second-degree
burglary. The State later amended the
information to include two additional
charges of burglary in the third degree
and using a juvenile to commit an
indictable offense.
The jury returned a verdict finding Wills
guilty of the crimes of burglary in the
second degree, burglary in the third
degree, and using a juvenile to commit
an indictable offense. Wills appeals his
conviction for second-degree burglary
claiming ineffective assistance of
counsel.
II. Scope of Review.
Claims of ineffective assistance of counsel
are derived from the Sixth Amendment of the
United States Constitution. Strickland v.
Washington, 466 U.S. 668, 684-86, 104 S.
Ct. 2052, 2063-64, 80 L. Ed. 2d 674, 691-93
(1984). Our review for a claim involving
violations of the Constitution is de novo.
State v. Fintel, 689 N.W.2d 95, 100
(Iowa 2004). We normally preserve
ineffective-assistance-of-counsel claims
for postconviction relief actions. State
v. Carter, 602 N.W. 2d 818, 820 (Iowa 1999).
However, we will address such claims on
direct appeal when the record is sufficient
to permit a ruling. State v. Artzer,
609 N.W.2d 526, 531 (Iowa 2000). The
appellate record in the present case is
sufficient to allow us to address Wills'
ineffective-assistance-of-counsel claims
on direct appeal.
In order for a defendant to succeed on a
claim of ineffective assistance of counsel,
the defendant must prove: (1) counsel
failed to perform an essential duty and
(2) prejudice resulted. Id. Prejudice
results when "there is a reasonable
probability that, but for the counsel's
unprofessional errors, the result of the
proceeding would have been different."
State v. Hopkins, 576 N.W.2d 374, 378
(Iowa 1998) (quoting Strickland, 466
U.S. at 694, 104 S. Ct. at 2068,
80 L. Ed. 2d at 698). Wills' arguments
also raise issues of statutory
interpretation, which we review for
correction of errors at law. State v.
Wolford Corp., 689 N.W.2d 471, 473 (Iowa 2004).
III. Analysis.
To find Wills guilty of burglary in the
second degree, the State had to prove
Wills perpetrated a burglary "in or
upon an occupied structure in which one
or more persons are present . . . ." Iowa
Code § 713.5(2) (2003) (emphasis added).
In this appeal, Wills first contends his
trial counsel was ineffective for failing
to move for a judgment of acquittal on
the basis there was insufficient evidence
to support a finding that at the time Wills
entered the garage, there were persons
present in or upon the occupied structure.
Wills concedes the garage was an occupied
structure, but argues the living quarters
and the attached garage are separate and
independent occupied structures; therefore,
the jury could not have found there were
people present in the attached garage
at the time of the burglary.
The Code defines an "occupied structure" as:
[A]ny building, structure, appurtenances
to buildings and structures, land, water
or air vehicle, or similar place adapted
for overnight accommodation of persons,
or occupied by persons for the purpose of
carrying on business or other activity
therein, or for the storage or safekeeping
of anything of value. Such a structure
is an "occupied structure" whether or not
a person is actually present.
Id. § 702.12.
Wills relies on State v. Smothers, 590
N.W.2d 721 (Iowa 1999), to argue the
garage and the living quarters are separate
and independent occupied structures. In
Smothers, two separate and distinct
businesses connected by interior fire doors
were operated in the same structure.
590 N.W.2d at 723. We held the defendant
committed two burglaries by entering each
business because "[t]he facility's
construction history and physical make-up
demonstrate that the portions are
independent working units which constitute
'[a] combination of materials to form a
construction for occupancy [or] use.'" Id.
Smothers is not at odds with the present
case because the living quarters and the
garage are not separate or independent
units of the residence.
Our review of the record reveals the garage
in question was a three-car attached garage
separated from the living quarters by a
door. The same roof covered the garage as
the rest of the residence. The living
quarters surrounded the garage on two sides.
It was structurally no different from any
other room in the residence.
The garage was a functional part of the
residence. On the night of the incident,
the door was unlocked. The owner of the
residence used two stalls in the garage to
park the family vehicles. The owner used
the third stall for his motorcycle. As
such, the garage and the living quarters
are a single "structure" or "building"
functioning as an integral part of the
family residence. Thus, the residence
including the garage is a single
"occupied structure" under section 702.12.
See, e.g., People v. Ingram, 48 Cal. Rptr.
2d 256 (Ct. App.1995) (holding defendant's
entry into an attached garage constituted
first-degree burglary because the garage
was attached to the house; therefore,
burglary of the garage was burglary of
an inhabited dwelling house); People v.
Cunningham, 637 N.E.2d 1247, 1252 (Ill.
App. Ct. 1994) (holding "ordinarily an
attached garage is a 'dwelling' because
it is part of the structure in which
the owner or occupant lives");
State v. Lara, 587 P.2d 52, 53
(N.M. Ct. App. 1978) (holding "burglary
of the [attached] garage was burglary of
the dwelling house because the garage was
a part of the structure used as living
quarters"); People v. Green, 141 A.D.2d
760, 761 (N.Y. App. Div. 1988) (holding
"[s]ince the garage in the present case
was structurally part of a building
which was used for overnight lodging of
various persons, it must be considered
as part of a dwelling"); White v. State,
630 S.W. 2d 340, 342 (Tex. Ct. App. 1982)
(holding an attached garage under the
same roof as the home would be considered
a habitation within the purview of the
penal code because the garage is a
structure appurtenant to and connected
to the house); State v. Murbach, 843 P.
2d 551, 553 (Wash. Ct. App 1993)
(holding the definition of a dwelling
under Washington's burglary statute
included an attached garage).
Had Wills' trial counsel moved for a
judgment of acquittal on the basis there
was insufficient evidence to support
a finding that at the time Wills
entered the garage there were no persons
present in or upon the occupied
structure, it would have been overruled
by the court because the owner and his
family were present in the residence at
the time of the burglary.
Wills also claims his counsel was
ineffective for failing to object to
the jury instruction used by the district
court on the same ground; that the
living quarters were a separate and
independent occupied structure from the
attached garage. The instruction as
given stated:
The State must prove all of the following
elements of Burglary in the Second
Degree as to Count I:
1. On or about the 12th day of August,
2003, the defendant or someone he aided
and abetted broke into or entered the
residence at . . . .
2. The residence at . . . was an occupied
structure as defined in Instruction No. 29.
3. The defendant or the person he aided
and abetted did not have permission or
authority to break into the residence at ...
4. The defendant or the person he aided
and abetted did so with the specific
intent to commit a theft therein.
5. During the incident persons were present
in or upon the occupied structure.
If the State has proved all of the elements,
the defendant is guilty of Burglary in the
Second Degree. If the State has failed to prove
any of the elements, the defendant is not
guilty of Burglary in the Second Degree and
you will then consider the charge of
Attempted Burglary in the Second Degree
explained in Instruction No. 21.
(Emphasis added.)
Wills' claim is without merit. As we have
discussed, the residence is the one and
only "occupied structure" under the facts
of this case. Had Wills' trial counsel
made this objection to the instruction,
it would have been overruled.
Therefore, Wills' trial counsel is not
ineffective for failing to move
for a judgment of acquittal or objecting
to the instruction because there was no
legal basis for the motion or objection.
See State v. Hochmuth, 585 N.W.2d 234,
238 (Iowa 1998) (holding trial counsel was
not ineffective for failing to raise an
issue that has no merit).
IV. Disposition.
We affirm the judgment of the district
court because Wills' trial counsel was
not ineffective for failing to raise
meritless issues.
AFFIRMED.
---------------------------------
Pay close attention to past owners of 202 NW College Ave.
Kent made affirmative claims about the property online.
Kent's folks sold it in 1994 while Kent lived there!
On 03/30/1999 Sweeney's filed on Kent for UNPAID RENT!
GeoParcel 8024-15-452-029 District/Parcel 181/00392-048-000
[ As Collected Sept 13, 2009 ]
Seller: WILLS, FRED A. & JANET R.
Buyer: THE SWEENEY REVOCABLE GRANTOR TRUST
04/26/1994 135,000 D/Deed 7010/188
-
Seller: SHELDAHL, ERIC A.
Buyer: WILLS, FRED
01/02/1990 130,500 D/Deed 6189/972
A Larger photo:
http://www.assess.co.polk.ia.us/cgi-bin/seephoto/photosize.cgi?gp=802415452029&size=Large
Notice that name SWEENEY above?
Check this out!
Iowa Courts Docket and Disposition web site
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Wills Kent B
02401 ESPR015146 INA J WILLS ESTATE
05771 FECR145250 STATE VS KENT 01/08/1969
05771 FECR176876 STATE VS KENT 01/08/1969
05771 SCSC310505 SWEENEY RENTALS VS KENT ******
05771 SCSC335210 CITI FINANCIAL VS KENT
05771 SCSC374163 SFI F SCHERLE PRES VS KENT
05771 SCSC374164 SFI F SCHERLE III PRES VS KENT
05771 STAN201670 IOWA vs [ KENT ] 01/08/1969
05771 STAN210929 IOWA vs [ KENT ] 01/08/1969
05771 SWCR177169 STATE VS KENT 01/08/1969
A list of case numbers will be presented.
Click on the SWEENEY case, 4th one down.
Under the "Filings" tab:
JUDGEMENT DEFAULT BRANDT GREGORY D 08/25/1999 09/01/1999 09/01/1999
Comments: $156.25 7.244% FROM 03/30/99
COMPUTER GENERATED NOTICE 05/11/1999 05/11/1999 05/11/1999
Comments: Notice of Proof of Claim
RETURN OF ORIGINAL NOTICE 04/21/1999 04/23/1999 04/23/1999
Comments: 4/10/99 KENT PERS
37.60
VERIFICATION OF ACCT HAS BEEN FILED 03/30/1999 03/30/1999
03/30/1999
SMALL CLAIMS ORIGINAL NOTICE SWEENEY RENTALS 03/30/1999 03/30/1999
03/30/1999
Comments: UNPAID RENT
Under the "Financial" Tab:
Summary Orig Paid Due
COSTS 98.60 31.00 67.60
FINE 0.00 0.00 0.00
SURCHARGE 0.00 0.00 0.00
RESTITUTION 0.00 0.00 0.00
OTHER 238.46 0.00 238.46
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$337.06 $31.00 $306.06
SUPPORT/ALIMONY N/A 0.00 N/A
----------------------------------------
Kent's 2000 Felony, first of TWO in Iowa
WILLS, KENT BRADLEY 05771 FECR145250 (POLK)
01/24/2000 Offense Date THEFT 2ND DEGREE - 1978 (FELD) WITHDRAWN
01/24/2000 Offense Date THEFT 3RD DEGREE - 1978 (AGMS)
03/07/2000 DEFERRED JUDGMENT (At that time) Sentence: 365 Day(s)
03/07/2000 PROBATION INFORMAL; 8/07/01-TRNFRD TO FORMAL 365 Day(s)
03/07/2000 COMMUNITY SERVICE 50 Hour(s)
03/07/2000 REFERRED TO OTHER AGENCY 1ST TIME OFFENDER CLASS
08/07/2001 JAIL PROB HRG 11 Day(s)
08/07/2001 JAIL PROB HRG 11 Day(s) TIME SERVED
08/07/2001 PROBATION EXTENDED PROB HRG
04/16/2002 PROBATION EXTENDED TO 08/06/03
04/16/2002 IMPOSED 7 Day(s)
04/16/2002 OTHER/MISCELLANEOUS PROB HRG 6 Day(s)
04/16/2002 DETENTION PROB HRG 6 Day(s)
08/07/2003 PRIOR ORDERS CONTINUED PROB EXTENDED UNTIL 8-06-04
11/26/2003 REVOKED PROB HRG; PROBATION/DJ REVOKED; JAIL
11/26/2003 PLACEMENT HRG PROBATION/DJ REVOKED; JAIL120 Day(s)
11/26/2003 SUSPEND PROBATION/DJ REVOKED; TIME SERVED 106 Day(s)
11/26/2003 COMMUNITY CORR PROBATION/DJ REVOKED; JAIL 14 Day(s)
( When Kent's second Felony revoked the rest of his Probation.)
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02401 ESPR015146 INA J WILLS ESTATE
05771 FECR145250 STATE VS KENT 01/08/1969
05771 FECR176876 STATE VS KENT 01/08/1969
05771 SCSC310505 SWEENEY RENTALS VS KENT ******
05771 SCSC335210 CITI FINANCIAL VS KENT
05771 SCSC374163 SFI F SCHERLE PRES VS KENT
05771 SCSC374164 SFI F SCHERLE III PRES VS KENT
05771 STAN201670 IOWA vs [ KENT ] 01/08/1969
05771 STAN210929 IOWA vs [ KENT ] 01/08/1969
05771 SWCR177169 STATE VS KENT 01/08/1969
A list of case numbers will be presented.
Click on case FECR145250, 2nd one down.
Under the "[Criminal Charges/Disposition]" tab:
Charges, Dispositions, Sentences
Title: STATE VS KENT B WILLS
Case: 05771 FECR145250 (POLK)
Citation Number:
Defendant: WILLS, KENT BRADLEY
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Count 01 Charge
Charge:
714.2(2) Description: THEFT 2ND DEGREE - 1978 (FELD)
Offense Date: 01/24/2000 Arrest Date: Against Type:
DPS Number:
0386367-01
Adjudication
Charge:
714.2(2) Description: THEFT 2ND DEGREE - 1978 (FELD)
Adj.:
DNU-WITHDRAWN Adj.Date: 03/07/2000
Adj.Judge:
WILSON, ROBERT D
Comments: AMENDED TI FILED
Sentence
Charge:
714.2(2) Description: THEFT 2ND DEGREE - 1978 (FELD)
Sentence Date:
03/07/2000 Sentence: WITHDRAWN
Appeal:
Sen.Judge: WILSON, ROBERT D
Facility Type:
Attorney: N
Restitution:
N Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration:
Comment:
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Count 02 Charge
Charge:
714.2(3) Description: THEFT 3RD DEGREE - 1978 (AGMS)
Offense Date: 01/24/2000 Arrest Date: Against Type:
DPS Number:
0386367-02
Adjudication
Charge:
714.2(3) Description: THEFT 3RD DEGREE - 1978 (AGMS)
Adj.:
DEFERRED Adj.Date: 03/07/2000
Adj.Judge:
WILSON, ROBERT D
Comments:
Sentence
Charge:
714.2(3) Description: THEFT 3RD DEGREE - 1978 (AGMS)
Sentence Date:
03/07/2000 Sentence: DEFERRED JUDGMENT
Appeal:
Sen.Judge: WILSON, ROBERT D
Facility Type:
Attorney: N
Restitution:
N Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 365 Day(s)
Comment:
Sentence
Charge:
714.2(3) Description: THEFT 3RD DEGREE - 1978 (AGMS)
Sentence Date:
03/07/2000 Sentence: PROBATION
Appeal:
Sen.Judge: WILSON, ROBERT D
Facility Type:
Attorney: N
Restitution:
N Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 365 Day(s)
Comment:
INFORMAL;8/07/01-TRNFRD TO FORMAL
Sentence
Charge:
714.2(3) Description: THEFT 3RD DEGREE - 1978 (AGMS)
Sentence Date:
03/07/2000 Sentence: COMMUNITY SERVICE
Appeal:
Sen.Judge: WILSON, ROBERT D
Facility Type:
Attorney: N
Restitution:
N Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 50 Hour(s)
Comment:
TO BE DETERMINED BY PROBATION
Sentence
Charge:
714.2(3) Description: THEFT 3RD DEGREE - 1978 (AGMS)
Sentence Date:
03/07/2000 Sentence: REFERRED TO OTHER AGENCY
Appeal:
Sen.Judge: WILSON, ROBERT D
Facility Type:
Attorney: N
Restitution:
N Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration:
Comment:
1ST TIME OFFENDER CLASS
Sentence
Charge:
714.2(3) Description: THEFT 3RD DEGREE - 1978 (AGMS)
Sentence Date:
08/07/2001 Sentence: JAIL
Appeal:
Sen.Judge: JACOBS, LOUISE M
Facility Type:
Attorney: N
Restitution:
N Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 11 Day(s)
Comment:
PROB HRG
Sentence
Charge:
714.2(3) Description: THEFT 3RD DEGREE - 1978 (AGMS)
Sentence Date:
08/07/2001 Sentence: TIME SERVED
Appeal:
Sen.Judge: JACOBS, LOUISE M
Facility Type:
J Attorney: N
Restitution:
N Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 11 Day(s)
Comment:
PROB HRG
Sentence
Charge:
714.2(3) Description: THEFT 3RD DEGREE - 1978 (AGMS)
Sentence Date:
08/07/2001 Sentence: PROBATION EXTENDED
Appeal:
Sen.Judge: JACOBS, LOUISE M
Facility Type:
Attorney: N
Restitution:
N Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration:
Comment:
PROB HRG-4/16/02-PROBATION EXTENDED TO 08/06/03
Sentence
Charge:
714.2(3) Description: THEFT 3RD DEGREE - 1978 (AGMS)
Sentence Date:
04/16/2002 Sentence: IMPOSED
Appeal:
Sen.Judge: COPPOLA, CAROL L
Facility Type:
J Attorney: N
Restitution:
N Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 7 Day(s)
Comment:
PROB HRG
Sentence
Charge:
714.2(3) Description: THEFT 3RD DEGREE - 1978 (AGMS)
Sentence Date:
04/16/2002 Sentence: OTHER/MISCELLANEOUS
Appeal:
Sen.Judge: COPPOLA, CAROL L
Facility Type:
Attorney: N
Restitution:
N Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 6 Day(s)
Comment:
PROB HRG
Sentence
Charge:
714.2(3) Description: THEFT 3RD DEGREE - 1978 (AGMS)
Sentence Date:
04/16/2002 Sentence: DETENTION
Appeal:
Sen.Judge: COPPOLA, CAROL L
Facility Type:
Attorney: N
Restitution:
N Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 6 Day(s)
Comment:
PROB HRG
Sentence
Charge:
714.2(3) Description: THEFT 3RD DEGREE - 1978 (AGMS)
Sentence Date:
08/07/2003 Sentence: PRIOR ORDERS CONTINUED
Appeal:
Sen.Judge: MCGHEE, ODELL
Facility Type:
Attorney: N
Restitution:
N Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration:
Comment:
PROB EXTENDED UNTIL 8-06-04
Sentence
Charge:
714.2(3) Description: THEFT 3RD DEGREE - 1978 (AGMS)
Sentence Date:
11/26/2003 Sentence: REVOKED
Appeal:
Sen.Judge: SMITH, JOE E
Facility Type:
Attorney: Y
Restitution:
N Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration:
Comment:
PROB HRG; PROBATION/DJ REVOKED; JAIL
Sentence
Charge:
714.2(3) Description: THEFT 3RD DEGREE - 1978 (AGMS)
Sentence Date:
11/26/2003 Sentence: PLACEMENT
Appeal:
Sen.Judge: SMITH, JOE E
Facility Type:
Attorney: Y
Restitution:
N Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 120 Day(s)
Comment:
PROB HRG; PROBATION/DJ REVOKED; JAIL
Sentence
Charge:
714.2(3) Description: THEFT 3RD DEGREE - 1978 (AGMS)
Sentence Date:
11/26/2003 Sentence: SUSPEND
Appeal:
Sen.Judge: SMITH, JOE E
Facility Type:
J Attorney: Y
Restitution:
N Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 106 Day(s)
Comment:
PROB HRG; PROBATION/DJ REVOKED; TIME SERVED
Sentence
Charge:
714.2(3) Description: THEFT 3RD DEGREE - 1978 (AGMS)
Sentence Date:
11/26/2003 Sentence: COMMUNITY CORRECTIONS
Appeal:
Sen.Judge: SMITH, JOE E
Facility Type:
J Attorney: Y
Restitution:
N Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 14 Day(s)
Comment:
PROB HRG; PROBATION/DJ REVOKED; JAIL
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Charges, Dispositions, Sentences
Title: STATE VS KENT BRADLEY WILLS
Case: 05771 FECR176876 (POLK)
Citation Number:
Count 01
08/12/2003 Offense Date BURGLARY 2ND DEGREE - 1983 (FELC)
12/17/2003 Adj.Date: GUILTY
01/16/2004 Sentence 10 Year(s) SUSPENDED PRISON
01/16/2004 Sentence: PROBATION 2 Year(s)
01/16/2004 Sentence: RESIDENTIAL FACILITY FT DSM FACILITY-MAX
BENEFITS
01/16/2004 Sentence: COMMUNITY SERVICE 150 Hour(s)
12/17/2003 Sentence: JO-PROBATION EXTENDED UNTIL 1/16/09
01/25/2006 Sentence: IMPOSED PROBATION EXTENDED UNTIL 01/16/09
Count 02
08/12/2003 Offense BURGLARY 3RD DEGREE - UNOCCUPIED MOTOR VEHICLE
(AGMS)
12/17/2003 GUILTY
01/16/2004 Sentence: PRISON Duration: 2 Year(s) SUSPENDED PRISON
01/16/2004 Sentence: PROBATION Duration: 2 Year(s)
01/16/2004 Sentence: RESIDENTIAL FACILITY FT DSM FACILITY-MAX
BENEFITS
01/16/2004 Sentence: COMMUNITY SERVICE Duration: 150 Hour(s)
12/17/2003 Sentence: JO-PROBATION EXTENDED UNTIL 1/16/09
01/25/2006 Sentence: IMPOSED PROBATION EXTENDED UNTIL 01/06/09
Count 03
08/12/2003 USING JUVENILE TO COMMIT AN INDICTABLE OFFENSE(FELC)709A.6
(2)
12/17/2003 GUILTY
01/16/2004 Sentence: PRISON Duration: 10 Year(s)
01/16/2004 Sentence: SUSPENDED PRISON 10 Year(s)
01/16/2004 Sentence: PROBATION 2 Year(s)
01/16/2004 Sentence: RESIDENTIAL FACILITY FT DSM FACILITY-MAX
BENEFITS
01/16/2004 Sentence: COMMUNITY SERVICE 150 Hour(s)
12/17/2003 Sentence: JO-PROBATION EXTENDED UNTIL 1/16/09
01/25/2006 Sentence: IMPOSED PROBATION EXTENDED UNTIL 01/16/09
Charges, Dispositions, Sentences
Title: STATE VS KENT BRADLEY WILLS
Case: 05771 FECR176876 (POLK)
Citation Number:
Count 01 Charge
Charge:
713.5 Description: BURGLARY 2ND DEGREE - 1983 (FELC)
Offense Date: 08/12/2003 Arrest Date: Against Type:
DPS Number:
0668408-01
Adjudication
Charge:
713.5 Description: BURGLARY 2ND DEGREE - 1983 (FELC)
Adj.:
DNU-GUILTY Adj.Date: 12/17/2003
Adj.Judge:
HUPPERT, MICHAEL D
Comments: GUILTY
Sentence
Charge:
713.5 Description: BURGLARY 2ND DEGREE - 1983 (FELC)
Sentence Date:
01/16/2004 Sentence: PRISON
Appeal:
AFFR Sen.Judge: HUPPERT, MICHAEL D
Facility Type:
Attorney: Y
Restitution:
Y Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 10 Year(s)
Comment:
Sentence
Charge:
713.5 Description: BURGLARY 2ND DEGREE - 1983 (FELC)
Sentence Date:
01/16/2004 Sentence: SUSPENDED PRISON
Appeal:
AFFR Sen.Judge: HUPPERT, MICHAEL D
Facility Type:
Attorney: Y
Restitution:
Y Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 10 Year(s)
Comment:
Sentence
Charge:
713.5 Description: BURGLARY 2ND DEGREE - 1983 (FELC)
Sentence Date:
01/16/2004 Sentence: PROBATION
Appeal:
AFFR Sen.Judge: HUPPERT, MICHAEL D
Facility Type:
Attorney: Y
Restitution:
Y Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 2 Year(s)
Comment:
FORMAL
Sentence
Charge:
713.5 Description: BURGLARY 2ND DEGREE - 1983 (FELC)
Sentence Date:
01/16/2004 Sentence: RESIDENTIAL FACILITY
Appeal:
AFFR Sen.Judge: HUPPERT, MICHAEL D
Facility Type:
R Attorney: Y
Restitution:
Y Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration:
Comment:
FT DSM FACILITY-MAX BENEFITS
Sentence
Charge:
713.5 Description: BURGLARY 2ND DEGREE - 1983 (FELC)
Sentence Date:
01/16/2004 Sentence: COMMUNITY SERVICE
Appeal:
AFFR Sen.Judge: HUPPERT, MICHAEL D
Facility Type:
R Attorney: Y
Restitution:
Y Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 150 Hour(s)
Comment:
Sentence
Charge:
713.5 Description: BURGLARY 2ND DEGREE - 1983 (FELC)
Sentence Date:
12/17/2003 Sentence: PROBATION EXTENDED
Appeal:
Sen.Judge: HUTCHISON, ROBERT A
Facility Type:
Attorney: Y
Restitution:
N Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer:
Fine Amount:
Duration:
Comment:
JO-PROBATION EXTENDED UNTIL 1/16/09
Sentence
Charge:
713.5 Description: BURGLARY 2ND DEGREE - 1983 (FELC)
Sentence Date:
01/25/2006 Sentence: IMPOSED
Appeal:
Sen.Judge: HUTCHISON, ROBERT A
Facility Type:
Attorney: N
Restitution:
N Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer:
Fine Amount:
Duration:
Comment:
PROBATION EXTENDED UNTIL 01/16/09
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Count 02 Charge
Charge:
713.6A(2)-A Description: BURGLARY 3RD DEGREE - UNOCCUPIED MOTOR
VEHICLE (AGMS)
Offense Date: 08/12/2003 Arrest Date: Against Type:
DPS Number:
0668408-02
Adjudication
Charge:
713.6A(2)-A Description: BURGLARY 3RD DEGREE - UNOCCUPIED MOTOR
VEHICLE (AGMS)
Adj.:
DNU-GUILTY Adj.Date: 12/17/2003
Adj.Judge:
HUPPERT, MICHAEL D
Comments: GUILTY
Sentence
Charge:
713.6A(2)-A Description: BURGLARY 3RD DEGREE - UNOCCUPIED MOTOR
VEHICLE (AGMS)
Sentence Date:
01/16/2004 Sentence: PRISON
Appeal:
AFFR Sen.Judge: OVROM, ELIZA
Facility Type:
Attorney: Y
Restitution:
Y Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 2 Year(s)
Comment:
Sentence
Charge:
713.6A(2)-A Description: BURGLARY 3RD DEGREE - UNOCCUPIED MOTOR
VEHICLE (AGMS)
Sentence Date:
01/16/2004 Sentence: SUSPENDED PRISON
Appeal:
AFFR Sen.Judge: OVROM, ELIZA
Facility Type:
Attorney: Y
Restitution:
Y Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 2 Year(s)
Comment:
Sentence
Charge:
713.6A(2)-A Description: BURGLARY 3RD DEGREE - UNOCCUPIED MOTOR
VEHICLE (AGMS)
Sentence Date:
01/16/2004 Sentence: PROBATION
Appeal:
AFFR Sen.Judge: OVROM, ELIZA
Facility Type:
Attorney: Y
Restitution:
Y Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 2 Year(s)
Comment:
FORMAL
Sentence
Charge:
713.6A(2)-A Description: BURGLARY 3RD DEGREE - UNOCCUPIED MOTOR
VEHICLE (AGMS)
Sentence Date:
01/16/2004 Sentence: RESIDENTIAL FACILITY
Appeal:
AFFR Sen.Judge: OVROM, ELIZA
Facility Type:
R Attorney: Y
Restitution:
Y Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration:
Comment:
FT DSM FACILITY-MAX BENEFITS
Sentence
Charge:
713.6A(2)-A Description: BURGLARY 3RD DEGREE - UNOCCUPIED MOTOR
VEHICLE (AGMS)
Sentence Date:
01/16/2004 Sentence: COMMUNITY SERVICE
Appeal:
AFFR Sen.Judge: OVROM, ELIZA
Facility Type:
Attorney: Y
Restitution:
Y Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 150 Hour(s)
Comment:
Sentence
Charge:
713.6A(2)-A Description: BURGLARY 3RD DEGREE - UNOCCUPIED MOTOR
VEHICLE (AGMS)
Sentence Date:
12/17/2003 Sentence: PROBATION EXTENDED
Appeal:
Sen.Judge: HUTCHISON, ROBERT A
Facility Type:
Attorney: Y
Restitution:
N Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer:
Fine Amount:
Duration:
Comment:
JO-PROBATION EXTENDED UNTIL 1/16/09
Sentence
Charge:
713.6A(2)-A Description: BURGLARY 3RD DEGREE - UNOCCUPIED MOTOR
VEHICLE (AGMS)
Sentence Date:
01/25/2006 Sentence: IMPOSED
Appeal:
Sen.Judge: HUTCHISON, ROBERT A
Facility Type:
Attorney: N
Restitution:
N Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer:
Fine Amount:
Duration:
Comment:
PROBATION EXTENDED UNTIL 01/06/09
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Count 03 Charge
Charge:
709A.6(2) Description: USING A JUVENILE TO COMMIT AN INDICTABLE
OFFENSE (FELC)
Offense Date: 08/12/2003 Arrest Date: Against Type:
DPS Number:
0668408-03
Adjudication
Charge:
709A.6(2) Description: USING A JUVENILE TO COMMIT AN INDICTABLE
OFFENSE (FELC)
Adj.:
DNU-GUILTY Adj.Date: 12/17/2003
Adj.Judge:
HUPPERT, MICHAEL D
Comments: GUILTY
Sentence
Charge:
709A.6(2) Description: USING A JUVENILE TO COMMIT AN INDICTABLE
OFFENSE (FELC)
Sentence Date:
01/16/2004 Sentence: PRISON
Appeal:
AFFR Sen.Judge: OVROM, ELIZA
Facility Type:
Attorney: Y
Restitution:
Y Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 10 Year(s)
Comment:
Sentence
Charge:
709A.6(2) Description: USING A JUVENILE TO COMMIT AN INDICTABLE
OFFENSE (FELC)
Sentence Date:
01/16/2004 Sentence: SUSPENDED PRISON
Appeal:
AFFR Sen.Judge: OVROM, ELIZA
Facility Type:
Attorney: Y
Restitution:
Y Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 10 Year(s)
Comment:
Sentence
Charge:
709A.6(2) Description: USING A JUVENILE TO COMMIT AN INDICTABLE
OFFENSE (FELC)
Sentence Date:
01/16/2004 Sentence: PROBATION
Appeal:
AFFR Sen.Judge: OVROM, ELIZA
Facility Type:
Attorney: Y
Restitution:
Y Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 2 Year(s)
Comment:
FORMAL
Sentence
Charge:
709A.6(2) Description: USING A JUVENILE TO COMMIT AN INDICTABLE
OFFENSE (FELC)
Sentence Date:
01/16/2004 Sentence: RESIDENTIAL FACILITY
Appeal:
AFFR Sen.Judge: OVROM, ELIZA
Facility Type:
R Attorney: Y
Restitution:
Y Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration:
Comment:
FT DSM FACILITY-MAX BENEFITS
Sentence
Charge:
709A.6(2) Description: USING A JUVENILE TO COMMIT AN INDICTABLE
OFFENSE (FELC)
Sentence Date:
01/16/2004 Sentence: COMMUNITY SERVICE
Appeal:
AFFR Sen.Judge: OVROM, ELIZA
Facility Type:
Attorney: Y
Restitution:
Y Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 150 Hour(s)
Comment:
Sentence
Charge:
709A.6(2) Description: USING A JUVENILE TO COMMIT AN INDICTABLE
OFFENSE (FELC)
Sentence Date:
12/17/2003 Sentence: PROBATION EXTENDED
Appeal:
Sen.Judge: HUTCHISON, ROBERT A
Facility Type:
Attorney: Y
Restitution:
N Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer:
Fine Amount:
Duration:
Comment:
JO-PROBATION EXTENDED UNTIL 1/16/09
Sentence
Charge:
709A.6(2) Description: USING A JUVENILE TO COMMIT AN INDICTABLE
OFFENSE (FELC)
Sentence Date:
01/25/2006 Sentence: IMPOSED
Appeal:
Sen.Judge: HUTCHISON, ROBERT A
Facility Type:
Attorney: N
Restitution:
N Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer:
Fine Amount:
Duration:
Comment:
PROBATION EXTENDED UNTIL 01/16/09
-------------------------------------
Filings
Title: STATE VS KENT BRADLEY WILLS
Case: 05771 FECR176876 (POLK)
ORDER OF DISCHARGE OVROM ELIZA 12/16/2008 12/16/2008 12/16/2008
Comments: FROM PROBATION
OTHER EVENT DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS 12/16/2008 12/16/2008
12/16/2008
Comments: FIELD DISCHARGE REPORT
OTHER ORDER OVROM ELIZA 12/16/2008 12/16/2008 12/16/2008
Comments: REVOCATION HEARING SET FOR 1/07/2009 IS CANCELLED
DEFENDANT HAS NOT PAID IN FULL FINANCIAL
OBLIGATIONS
ORDER FOR PROBATION REVOCATION HEARING MOISAN CYNTHIA M 12/05/2008
12/05/2008 12/05/2008
Comments: ON 1/7/09 AT 9:30AM RM204
PROBATION REVOCATION 12/05/2008 12/05/2008 12/05/2008
Comments: REPORT OF VIOLATIONS FILED BY JAN HORNOCKER
FORMAL PROBATION HUTCHISON ROBERT A 01/25/2006 01/26/2006
01/26/2006
Comments: EXTENDED TO 01/16/09 OR UNTIL CONDITIONS ARE MET
COURT ORDERED PAYMENT PLAN 01/13/2006 01/13/2006 01/13/2006
OTHER ORDER HUTCHISON ROBERT A 01/11/2006 01/13/2006 01/13/2006
Comments: DEFT'S PROBATION EXTENDED UNTIL 1/16/09; DEFT TO
COMPLETE
CONDITIONS LISTED
OTHER EVENT 09/15/2005 09/15/2005 09/15/2005
Comments: THE SUPREME COURT RETURNED FILE, PSI, 4 TRANSCRIPTS,
AND 1 ENVELOPE OF EXHIBITS
OTHER EVENT APPELLATE DEFENDER'S OFFICE 06/09/2005 06/13/2005
06/13/2005
Comments: STATEMENT OF HOURS
15.9 HOURS = $795.00
ATTORNEY - GRETA TRUMAN
OTHER EVENT CLERK OF SUPREME COURT 06/02/2005 09/15/2005
09/15/2005
Comments: BILL OF COSTS
$27.50 TAXED AGAINST THE APPELLANT AND PAYABLE
TO
THE ATTORNEY GENERAL
#04-0202
OTHER ORDER SUPREME COURT OF IOWA 06/02/2005 09/15/2005 09/15/2005
Comments: RE DEFT'S APPEAL CLAIMING INEFFECTIVE COUNSEL:
JUDGEMENT AFFIRMED
#04-0202
PROCEDENDO CLERK OF SUPREME COURT 06/02/2005 09/15/2005 09/15/2005
Comments: AFFIRMED
PROCEED W/DILIGENCE AS IF THERE HAD BEEN NO
APPEAL
#04-0202
COMMUNITY SERVICE 05/25/2004 05/27/2004 05/27/2004
Comments: 135 HRS COMPLETED 5/24/04
INDIGENT DEFENSE CLAIM FORM TAYLOR KAREN 05/11/2004 05/13/2004
05/13/2004
Comments: $1150
ELECTRONIC FILING
OTHER EVENT 04/26/2004 04/28/2004 04/28/2004
Comments: SUPREME COURT REC'D 1 FILE, 1 PSI ENVELOPE,
1 EXHIBIT(1 ENVELOPE DATED 1/21/04)
REC'D 4/20/04
OTHER ORDER NICKERSON DON 04/23/2004 04/27/2004 04/27/2004
Comments: THE BALANCE OF ATTNY FEE AND CC SHALL BE
CONVERTED TO 135 HRS COMM SERVICE
TO BE COMPLETED FROM FT DSM FACILITY
OR TRANSFER TO INTERSTATE COMPACT
COMMUNITY SERVICE 04/22/2004 04/23/2004 04/23/2004
Comments: 150 HRS COMPLETED
APRIL 8, 2004
OTHER EVENT 04/20/2004 04/20/2004 04/20/2004
Comments: RECD CHANGE OF ADDRESS FOR DEFT
OTHER EVENT 04/20/2004 04/20/2004 04/20/2004
Comments: FILE AND PSI SENT TO THE SUPREME COURT
ONE ENVELOPE OF EXHIBITS FILED 1/21/04
SENT TO THE SUPREME COURT
OTHER EVENT 04/19/2004 04/19/2004 04/19/2004
Comments: SUP CRT RECEIVED 2 TRANSCRIPTS OF PROCEEDINGS
FILED 4/1/04 (VOL I & II)
SUP CRT 04-202
OTHER EVENT 04/06/2004 05/18/2004 05/18/2004
Comments: 2 TRANSCRIPTS FILED 4/1/04 SENT TO THE
SUPREME COURT
DNU - COURT REPORTER TRANSCRIPT MAXEY REBECCA 04/01/2004 04/05/2004
04/05/2004
Comments: OF PROCEEDINGS ON 12/16/03
VOLUME II
DNU - COURT REPORTER TRANSCRIPT MAXEY REBECCA 04/01/2004 04/05/2004
04/05/2004
Comments: OF PROCEEDINGS ON 12/15/03
VOLUME I
OTHER EVENT 03/31/2004 03/31/2004 03/31/2004
Comments: EXHIBITS RETURNED
OTHER EVENT 03/31/2004 03/31/2004 03/31/2004
Comments: ENVELOPE OF EXHIBITS CHECKED OUT TO COURT
REPORTER R.M.
OTHER ORDER OVROM ELIZA 03/29/2004 03/31/2004 03/31/2004
Comments: MOTION IS GRANTED REGARDING REVIEW OF
PAYMENT OF COURT APPOINTED ATTY FEES AND
THE STATE PUBLIC DEFENDER IS ORDERED TO MAKE
PAYMENT AS REQUESTED.
OTHER ORDER OVROM ELIZA 03/29/2004 03/30/2004 03/31/2004
ENTERED IN ERROR
Comments: STATE PUBLIC DEFENDER SHALL MAKE PAYMENT AS
REQUESTED.
MOTION 03/18/2004 03/19/2004 03/19/2004
Comments: TO ENLARGE TIME FOR DOCKETING FILED BY
ASSISTANT APPELLATE DEFENDER
ORDER SETTING HEARING OVROM ELIZA 03/15/2004 03/16/2004 03/16/2004
Comments: ON MOTION TO REVIEW ACTION RE:PAYMENT OF
COURT APPOINTED ATTY.
3/29/04 8:15AM RM209A
MOTION 03/15/2004 03/16/2004 03/16/2004
Comments: FOR REVIEW OF ACTION REGARDING PAYMENT
OF COURT APPOINTED ATTORNEY FEES
FILED BY ATDF
OTHER EVENT 03/11/2004 03/11/2004 03/11/2004
Comments: SUPREME COURT RECVD 2 TRANSCRIPTS OF SENTENCING
ON 1/16/04 AND STATUS CONF ON 12/12/03 FILED
3/1/04
04-202
OTHER EVENT 03/09/2004 03/09/2004 03/09/2004
Comments: 2 TRANSCRIPTS FILED 3/1/04 SENT TO THE
SUPREME COURT
INDIGENT DEFENSE CLAIM FORM TAYLOR KAREN 03/09/2004 03/18/2004
03/18/2004
Comments: $1350.00 ELECTRONIC FILING
DNU - COURT REPORTER TRANSCRIPT HILGENBERG VIVIAN ROSE 03/01/2004
03/03/2004 03/03/2004
Comments: OF STATUS CONFERENCE ON 12/12/2003
DNU - COURT REPORTER TRANSCRIPT HILGENBERG VIVIAN ROSE 03/01/2004
03/03/2004 03/03/2004
Comments: OF SENTENCING ON 01/16/2004
OTHER EVENT APPELLATE DEFENDER'S OFFICE 02/26/2004 02/27/2004
02/27/2004
Comments: COMBINED CERTIFICATE
OTHER EVENT 02/24/2004 02/24/2004 02/24/2004
Comments: DOCKET ENTRIES RECEIVED BY SUPREME COURT
2-10-04; SUPREME COURT NUMBER 04-202
ORDER APPOINTING OVROM ELIZA 02/18/2004 02/19/2004 02/19/2004
Comments: ORDER GRANTING K TAYLOR TO W/D
APPELLATE COUNSEL IS APPT
OTHER APPLICATION 02/18/2004 02/19/2004 02/19/2004
Comments: TO WITHDRAW
OTHER EVENT 02/10/2004 02/10/2004 02/10/2004
Comments: DOCKET ENTRIES AND CERTIFIED COPY OF NOTICE
OF APPEAL SENT TO THE SUPREME COURT
OTHER EVENT TAYLOR KAREN A 02/09/2004 02/10/2004 02/10/2004
Comments: COURT APPOINTED BILLING
47 HOURS = $2500
OTHER EVENT TAYLOR KAREN 02/09/2004 02/10/2004 02/10/2004
ENTERED IN ERROR
Comments: COURT
NOTICE OF APPEAL TAYLOR KAREN A 02/06/2004 02/09/2004 02/09/2004
Comments: FILED BY ATDF
OTHER EVENT 01/23/2004 01/27/2004 01/27/2004
Comments: ADDENDUM TO PSI REPORT
EXHIBIT MAXEY REBECCA 01/21/2004 01/21/2004 01/21/2004
Comments: STATE'S EXHIBITS
1-$13.21; 2-$24.25 (IN VAULT); 3-LIGHT;
4&5-WRITTEN STATEMENT; 6,7,8-DIAGRAM
1 ENVELOPE & VAULT
OTHER EVENT 01/20/2004 01/26/2004 01/26/2004
Comments: VORP
VICTIM DOES NOT WANT TO VORP
NO RESTITUTION ISSUES AT THIS TIME
VICTIM DENNIS AND JAMIE WIEBEN
COURT ORDERED PAYMENT PLAN 01/20/2004 01/20/2004 01/20/2004
COURT ORDERED PAYMENT PLAN 01/16/2004 01/16/2004 01/16/2004
COURT REPORTER CERTIFICATE HILGENBERG VIVIAN ROSE 01/16/2004
01/20/2004 01/20/2004
Comments: $15.00
PRE SENTENCE INVESTIGATION REPORT PSI 01/16/2004 01/16/2004
01/16/2004
ORDER OF DISPOSITION OVROM ELIZA 01/16/2004 01/16/2004 01/16/2004
Comments: FOUND GUILTY BY JURY/PRISON-SUSPENDED; FORMAL
PROBATION; FT DSM FACILITY-MAX BENEFITS;
COMMUNITY SERVED; RESTITUTION-SUPP ORDER TO
FOLLOW; VORP; APPEAL BOND $13000 C/S
ORDER OF DISPOSITION OVROM ELIZA 01/16/2004 01/16/2004
01/16/2004
ENTERED IN ERROR
Comments: PLED GUILTY/PRISON-SUSPENDED; FORMAL
PROBATION; FT DSM FACILITY-MAX BENEFITS;
COMMUNITY SERVED; RESTITUTION-SUPP ORDER TO
FOLLOW; VORP; APPEAL BOND $13000 C/S
MITTIMUS TO STATE INSTITUTION WILLS KENT BRADLEY 01/16/2004
01/16/2004 01/16/2004
Comments: **FORT DES MOINES**
RETURN OF SERVICE - OTHER POLK COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE 12/23/2003
12/26/2003 12/26/2003
Comments: TRANSPORT COSTS $96.24
OTHER EVENT 12/22/2003 12/23/2003 12/23/2003
Comments: DEFT'S COPY OF ORDER TO EXCEED STATE FEE
LIMITATION RETURNED UNDELIVERABLE
COURT REPORTER CERTIFICATE MAXEY REBECCA 12/17/2003 12/18/2003
12/18/2003
CRIMINAL VERDICT HUPPERT MICHAEL D 12/17/2003 12/18/2003 12/18/2003
Comments: OF GUILTY TO BURGLARY 2ND, 3RD, AND USING A
JUVENILE TO COMMIT AN INDICTABLE OFFENSE; DCS
WILL SUBMIT A PSI BY 1 WK PRIOR TO SENTENCING
DATE; PRESENTENCE CONF & SENTENCING 1-16-04
@ 8:30 AM IN RM 209A; BOND CONT
AMENDED TRIAL INFORMATION HUPPERT MICHAEL D 12/17/2003 12/18/2003
12/18/2003
Comments: FILED BY JOHN JUDISCH
JURY SELECTION HUPPERT MICHAEL D 12/17/2003 12/18/2003 12/18/2003
INSTRUCTIONS 12/17/2003 12/18/2003 12/18/2003
Comments: TO THE JURY AND STATEMENT OF THE CASE
OTHER ORDER HUPPERT MICHAEL D 12/16/2003 12/17/2003 12/17/2003
Comments: JUV SEAN BILYEU SHALL BE TRANSFERRED TO THE
CUSTODY OF POLK CO SHERIFF FOR THE DURATION
OF HIS REQUIRED TESTIMONY/PRESENCE IN THIS
MATTER. SEAN BILYEU SHALL REMAIN IN THE
CUSTODY OF POLK CO SHERIFF OR ANY OTHER
LOCATION (MEYER HALL) DEEMED APPROPRIATE BY
THE SHERIFF UNTIL THE POLK CO SHERIFF CAN
EXECUTE THE TIMELY TRANSPORT OF SEAN BILYEU
FROM THE CUSTODY OF THE SHERIFF TO THE ELDORA
TRAINING CENTER.
OTHER ORDER HUPPERT MICHAEL D 12/16/2003 12/16/2003 12/16/2003
Comments: DEFT TO BE RETURNED FROM ELDORA-COTTAGE 5
BY JIM TROTTER, INVESTIGATOR/CTY ATTY'S
OFFICE; DEFT CAN BE PRESENT AT HIS TESTIMONY
ON 12-16-03
OTHER ORDER HUPPERT MICHAEL D 12/15/2003 12/16/2003 12/16/2003
Comments: ATDF IS PERMITTED TO EXCEED GUIDELINE FOR
CT APPT ATTY IN THIS MATTER AND THAT THIS
ORDER SHALL INCLUED ALL FEES INCURRED AS OF
THE DATE OF THIS ORDER.
APPLICATION TO EXCEED FEES 12/15/2003 12/16/2003 12/16/2003
COURT REPORTER CERTIFICATE HILGENBERG VIVIAN ROSE 12/12/2003
12/17/2003 12/17/2003
MOTION IN LIMINE TAYLOR KAREN 12/12/2003 12/15/2003 12/15/2003
ORDER SETTING HEARING OVROM ELIZA 12/05/2003 12/08/2003 12/08/2003
Comments: STATUS CONF: 12/12/03 @ 10:00 AM RM 204
RETURN OF SERVICE ON SUBPEONA 11/20/2003 12/09/2003 12/09/2003
Comments: 4=$0
RETURN OF SERVICE ON SUBPEONA 11/18/2003 11/25/2003 11/25/2003
Comments: 3=$0
ORDER SETTING HEARING OVROM ELIZA 11/14/2003 11/14/2003 11/14/2003
Comments: STATUS CONFERENCE
11/13/03 9AM RM 204
ALL PARTIES MUST BE PRESENT
ORDER SETTING TRIAL OVROM ELIZA 11/13/2003 11/14/2003 11/14/2003
Comments: 12/15/03 @ 9:00 AM RM 204
WAIVER OF SPEEDY TRIAL TAYLOR KAREN 11/13/2003 11/14/2003
11/14/2003
Comments: LIMITED
RETURN OF SERVICE ON SUBPEONA 11/10/2003 11/12/2003 11/12/2003
Comments: 1 = $0
OTHER EVENT 11/10/2003 11/10/2003 11/10/2003
Comments: DEPOSITION OF DAVID DUVALL
OTHER EVENT 11/10/2003 11/10/2003 11/10/2003
Comments: DEPOSITION OF BETH ANN SKOGEN
OTHER EVENT 11/10/2003 11/10/2003 11/10/2003
Comments: DEPOSITION OF NEIL LEMKE
OTHER EVENT 11/10/2003 11/10/2003 11/10/2003
Comments: DEPOSITION OF DENNIS WIEBEN
OTHER EVENT 11/10/2003 11/10/2003 11/10/2003
Comments: DEPOSITION OF NATALIE BALUKOFF
OTHER EVENT 11/10/2003 11/10/2003 11/10/2003
Comments: DEPOSITION OF SEAN BILYEU
RETURN OF SERVICE ON SUBPEONA 10/31/2003 11/04/2003 11/04/2003
Comments: 6=$0
AMENDED TRIAL INFORMATION OVROM ELIZA 10/31/2003 11/03/2003
11/03/2003
Comments: FILED BY JOHN JUDISCH
NOTICE WARD JAMES P 10/31/2003 11/03/2003 11/03/2003
Comments: OF ADDITIONAL WITNESSES
DNU - SUBPOENA PER DUCES TECUM 10/31/2003 11/03/2003 11/03/2003
Comments: 1 - $13.70
OTHER ORDER OVROM ELIZA 10/21/2003 10/21/2003 10/21/2003
Comments: FOR DEPOSITIONS AND SERVICE
AT STATE EXPENSE
OTHER APPLICATION 10/21/2003 10/21/2003 10/21/2003
Comments: FOR DEPOSITIONS AND SERVICE
AT STATE EXPENSE
NOTICE TAYLOR KAREN 10/20/2003 10/21/2003 10/21/2003
Comments: OF DEPOSITIONS
NOTICE TAYLOR KAREN 10/20/2003 10/21/2003 10/21/2003
Comments: OF DEPOSITIONS
NOTICE TAYLOR KAREN 10/20/2003 10/21/2003 10/21/2003
Comments: OF DEPOSITIONS
NOTICE TAYLOR KAREN 10/20/2003 10/21/2003 10/21/2003
Comments: OF DEPOSITION
NOTICE TAYLOR KAREN 10/20/2003 10/21/2003 10/21/2003
Comments: OF DEPOSITIONS
NOTICE TAYLOR KAREN 10/20/2003 10/21/2003 10/21/2003
Comments: OF DEPOSITIONS
OTHER ORDER OVROM ELIZA 10/07/2003 10/08/2003 10/08/2003
Comments: ORDER ENTERED 9/18/03 SETTING TRIAL FOR
11/19/03 WAS IS ERROR. TRIAL IS RESET FOR
11/12/03 @9:00 AM RM 204
OTHER EVENT 09/24/2003 09/26/2003 09/26/2003
Comments: DEFT'S COPY OF APP TO W/D
RETURNED UNDELIVERABLE
PRE-TRIAL CONFERENCE OVROM ELIZA 09/18/2003 09/19/2003 09/19/2003
Comments: WAS HELD; TRIAL ON 11-19-03
ATDF TAYLOR
OTHER EVENT AMUNDSON LAURA K 08/26/2003 09/02/2003 09/02/2003
Comments: STATEMENT OF HOURS
.4-$18.00
APPEARANCE TAYLOR KAREN 08/25/2003 08/26/2003 08/26/2003
Comments: FILED BY KAREN TAYLOR
WITHDRAWAL OF COUNSEL OVROM ELIZA 08/21/2003 08/22/2003 08/22/2003
Comments: OF ADULT PUBLIC DEF IS GRANTED
KAREN TAYLOR IS APPOINTED
ORDER OF ARRAIGNMENT MCGHEE ODELL 08/21/2003 08/21/2003 08/21/2003
Comments: Pretrial Conference 09/18/2003 01:30 PM DCC1
Trial 10/22/2003 09:00 AM DCC9
Bond is continued
TRIAL INFORMATION OVROM ELIZA 08/20/2003 08/20/2003 08/20/2003
Comments: FILED BY JAMES WARD
ORDER FOR ARRAIGNMENT MCGHEE ODELL 08/14/2003 08/14/2003
08/14/2003
Comments: IN CUSTODY ON 8/21/03 AT 10:30AM JAILCOURT
OUT OF CUSTODY AT 8AM ROOM 204
PRELIM HAS NOT BEEN WAIVED SET FOR 8/22/03
DNU - HEARING FOR BOND REDUCTION MCGHEE ODELL 08/14/2003 08/14/2003
08/14/2003
Comments: BOND $13000 C/S
APP FOR COUNSEL/FINANCIAL STATMENT MCGHEE ODELL 08/13/2003
08/13/2003 08/13/2003
Comments: APPROVED
PD IS APPOINTED
CRIMINAL COMPLAINT 08/13/2003 08/13/2003 08/13/2003
Comments: BURGLARY 2ND
ANPD 03-75354
HEARING FOR INITIAL APPEARANCE MCGHEE ODELL 08/13/2003 08/13/2003
08/13/2003
Comments: Preliminary Hearing 08/22/2003 08:00 AM DA03
Bond Review 08/14/2003 08:30 AM DA04
Bond set for 713.5 $13000 C/S
Total Bond $13000 C/S
Indexed PUBLIC DEFENDER-POLK COUNTYPIN-
PK1000375
Title: STATE VS KENT BRADLEY WILLS
Case: 05771 FECR176876 (POLK)
Citation Number:
Orig Paid Due Summary
3501.70 3501.70 0.00 COSTS
0.00 0.00 0.00 FINE
125.00 125.00 0.00 SURCHARGE
0.00 0.00 0.00 RESTITUTION
27.50 27.50 0.00 OTHER
-------------------------------------
$3654.20 $3654.20 $0.00
WILLS, KENT B [ Collected Sept 13, 2009]
Age: 40
Rogers, AR
Ankeny, IA
Marshalltown, IA
Bartlett, IL
Villa Park, IL
And from another source: Hanover Park, IL
WILLS, FREDERICK ALFRED (Kent's Dad 65 )
WILLS, MICHAEL A (Kent's son ??)
WILLS, JANET RAE (Kent's Mom 62 )
HARTWIG,TIFFANY JEANNE (Wills) (Kent's sister )
From another source: Kelly M Wills Kent's wife ?? )
( Samantha T Wills, Kathleen M Wills, James Wills ? )
-----------------------------------
Consider the following:
If "our" Kent is NOT Kent Bradley Wills then
his ""Fake ID"" has worked well, so what's
the problem?
Consider Kent's OWN comments about:
A. regarding his sister (by name)
B. property in CORPORATION name (Wills Family Trust)
C. footage of "Wills" plaque avoiding first name
D. apt building at 202 NW College Ave Ankeny IA
E. past residence in various cities in IA
F. connection to Arkansas
G. that he set up/was assigned this ""Fake ID""
Does an actual Garage Burglary Felon have a
RIGHT to con people into thinking he ISN'T one?
Does a TWO time thieving Felon actually have
a right to conceal his record and a right
against having his record exposed?
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.bob-larson/msg/b9653f6758b592b8
Newsgroups: alt.fan.bob-larson, alt.law-enforcement, alt.usenet.kooks
From: Kent Wills <compu...@gmail.com>
Local: Wed, Oct 15 2008 5:59 pm
> and running to Arkansas ain't gonna help you this time, Kent --
KBW > I've never run to Arkansas.
KBW > We have a house near Fort Smith, AR.
KBW > I'm confident your stalking has found
KBW > just where it is. You were able to
KBW > find my phone number from when I
KBW > lived in Chicago (you posted part
KBW > of it) back in 1988, so finding a
KBW > current address should have been
KBW > real easy for you.
2006 Assets Learning Conference Session III.8
Understanding the New Bankruptcy and Credit Laws:
Implications for the Field
Facilitated for the Assets Alliance by:
Janet Wills
Wills Resources
8250 Wills Court
Rogers, AR 72756
Phone & Fax Number: (479) 925-4001
E-mail: janetw...@yahoo.com
Ramona McKinney
Asset Builders Program Director
Southern Good Faith Fund
2304 West 29th Avenue
Pine Bluff, Arkansas 71603
Phone Number: (870) 535-6233, ext. 15
E-mail: rmck...@southerngff.org
History of Bankruptcy
Roots of word traced to medieval Italy – “banco rotto” which means
broken bench
Early U. S. bankruptcy law was modification of British law
1800’s – First federal bankruptcy law signed by President John Adams
in 1800 2 more laws passed and repealed until the Bankruptcy Act of
1898
1900’s and Beyond
A bankruptcy environment that had as its focus helping debtors seek a
new start remained in place for most of 20th century.
By beginning of 21st century creditors successfully argued that this
current law and environment were too easy on debtors
BAPCPA
The Bankruptcy Abuse Prevention and Consumer Protection Act of 2005
was passed and went into effect October 19, 2005
Interruption in our presentation
There is a blank page in the back of your packet. As we are talking
today about bankruptcy and credit, please use it to jot down some of
your thoughts on how this new bankruptcy environment is going to
impact you and the people you serve.
Specifically write yourself a note or two about at least one
bankruptcy proceeding you know about personally. Then in 20 words or
less state what you think the contributing cause was for that person’s
financial problems.
We will want to hear your thoughts later.
Types of Bankruptcy
Chapter 7
Chapter 11
Chapter 12
Chapter 13
Chapter 7
For personal bankruptcy
Often referred to is liquidation bankruptcy
Debtors turn over nonessential assets to bankruptcy trustee, who then
sells it off and distributes proceeds to creditors eliminating debt
completely
This type of bankruptcy was most affected by the BAOCPA
Chapter 11
For corporations that want to reorganize their finances and remain in
business
Features a debt repayment plan
Chapter 12
For family farmers and fishermen
Features payment plan and debt restructuring
Chapter 13
For individuals
Features debt repayment plan
More individuals who previously would have filed under Chapter 7 will
be forced into Chapter 13
Changes with the BAPCPA
Means test
Required Credit Counseling
Required Debtor Education
Means Test
To qualify for Chapter 7 “liquidation bankruptcy” individual must pass
means test
Income must be below state’s median income
Or if it is above, debtor is subject to means test
Monthly income less allowed expenses
If after all these subtractions the total monthly disposable income is
less than $100 the debtor has passed the Means Test
Means Test cont.
If disposable income is more than $166.67 Means test is flunked and
debtor is not eligible for Chapter 7, must go to Chapter 13
If disposable income is between $100 and $166.67 then calculations are
figured to see if what is left over is enough to pay off more than 25%
of unsecured debt over 5 years.
In other words – the means test is not easy.
Required Credit Counseling
Debtors filing for Chapter 7 must complete required credit counseling
& debtors must pay for it.* Credit Counseling must be provided by a
qualifying 501(c)3 organization that has been approved by Bankruptcy
Trustees.
*fee can be waived
Debtor Education
2 hours required
Required topics
Budget Development
Setting short-term & long-term financial goals as well as developing
skills to assist in achieving these goals
Calculating gross monthly income & net monthly income
Identifying & classifying monthly expenses as fixed, variable, or
periodic
Debtor Education
Required topics cont
Money Management
Keeping adequate financial records
Developing decision-making skills required to distinguish between
wants and needs and to comparison shop for goods & services
Maintaining appropriate levels of insurance coverage, taking into
account the types and costs of insurance
Saving for emergences, for periodic payments, and for financial goals
Debtor education
required topics cont.
Wise Use of Credit
Types sources, and costs of credit & loans
Identifying debt warning signs
Appropriate use of credit & alternatives to credit use
Checking a credit rating
Debtor Education
required topics cont.
Consumer information
Public and non-profit resources for consumer assistance
Applicable consumer protection laws and regulations, such as those
governing correction of a credit record and protection against
consumer fraud
Approved credit counseling and debtor education can be provided
In person
Internet
Telephone
(can be approved for a combination of internet/telephone. That is the
approval we have)
www.usdoj.gov/ust/
The U. S. Trustees home page
A Huge wealth of information
www.usdoj.gov/ust/eo/bapcpa/ccde/cc_approved.htm#AL
Web site (part of the trustee web site) for list of approved credit
counselors and debtor education providers
Click on state
Click on your judicial district
Bankruptcy and the Future
At first it’s a relief – you file for bankruptcy, the creditors stop
calling and harassing you, and the juggling act ends.
Many people who file bankruptcy ask, “Now what can I expect?”
Let’s begin looking at “what’s next” by completing the quiz.
Bankruptcy will expire from your credit report after 10 years.
Some credit reporting agencies may remove Chapter 13 after 7 years.
Bankruptcy is for life – if you apply for insurance, credit, or a job
you can be asked if you have ever filed for bankruptcy. There is no
time limit even if it is very old.
Bankruptcy will stay with me forever: True.
2. The accounts included in my bankruptcy will be removed from my
credit report upon discharge: False.
Accounts included in bankruptcy expire independently from bankruptcy.
These accounts will be marked “Included in BK” on the credit report.
They will remain up to 7 years after filing.
After discharge the balance must be reported as “0.”
I will never get credit again: False.
You can expect receive many offers of credit.
Many of these may be from unscrupulous creditors with activation fees
and/or membership fees.
There are “debtor-friendly” agencies that specialize in credit repair
loans.
Do not be too eager to get credit again – know the terms and
conditions of the credit.
I will not be able to by a home for 10 years: False.
There are some lenders who prefer to deal with consumers with good
credit and will not do business for the 10 years it remains.
It is not a quick fix, it may take those in Chapter 13 three to five
years to complete their payment plan.
With strides to rebuild credit and no new negative “marks,” you may be
able to receive a conventional mortgage within one to two years.
Even after bankruptcy I may still have some of my existing debt:
True.
Even with Chapter 7 not all debt will be discharged, it depends on the
type of debts that are owed.
Certain debts that cannot be discharged include: most taxes, child
support, most student loans, court fines and criminal restitution, and
personal injury.
Debts incurred after filing for bankruptcy will not be included.
I will lose all my property if I file for bankruptcy: False.
With Chapter 13, which is like a payment plan, you may be allowed to
keep property.
Chapter 7 involves the sale of all assets that are not exempt.
Exemptions differ from state to state but typically allow: equity in
home, insurance, retirement plans, personal property, car, public
benefits, and/or tools used on job.
Filing for bankruptcy will lower my credit score: True.
The drop in the credit score will depend on the type of debt and
payment history prior to filing.
Credit score is calculated using a complicated algorithm that takes
into account hundreds of factors and values.
It is very difficult to predict how the credit score will be affected
but bankruptcy is one of the most negative factors included in the
report.
I cannot file for bankruptcy for 8 years after discharge: True.
This is only true for Chapter 7.
Chapter 13 waiting period is shorter and can be as little as two
years.
After bankruptcy all my debts will be free and clear and I will have
peace of mind: False.
As stated in #5 all debts will not be discharged.
Bankruptcy is listed in the top five life-altering negative events
that one can go through.
Bankruptcy is life-altering and leaves deep wounds both to the psyche
and the credit report.
After bankruptcy I will need to take steps to protect myself from
another bankruptcy: True.
Even if the bankruptcy was through no fault of your own it will be a
good time to examine what led to bankruptcy to begin to prepare for
unforeseen events.
Take a critical look at spending and saving habits.
Implement strategies to control spending, develop a budget, and start
a savings plan.
Let’s Talk About It
Implications to the IDA field
The “typical” person seeking bankruptcy
Contributing causes
Kent Wills
<gree...@gmail.com> wrote:
>G > "Noone" Do you work for NAMBLA? Or just represent them?
>G >
>G > You never explained how users should be OK
>G > with part of their hard disk holding encrypted kid porn!
>G >
>G >Why is that?
>
>KBW > Because you want access to the
>KBW > porn, but don't want to risk having it
>KBW > on your machine, Greg. DUH!
>
>
>Kent Wills, ever the con artist.
Is that like your CON that the information you pose below is about
me, even after you ADMITTED it is not?
That you are sexually attracted to children is a truth you've
proved a few times. By way of example; when I posted pictures of our
new TV, you ignored them and fixated on the picture of a friend's
pre-pubescent daughter.
For months you obsessed about a former female student of mine who
was around age 11 when you kept asking about her.
There are MANY other examples, of course, but the two I cite
support my possition well enough.
Greegor
KBW > Is that like your CON that the information
KBW > you pose below is about me, even after
KBW > you ADMITTED it is not?
Got a LINK to where I "admitted" that, Kent?
Kent Wills
Yes. And as soon as you post the picture of David dressed as a
Nazi and the one of me on a pony, or admit you've been lying about the
existence of both the whole time, I'll post it. Many other links as
well.
Since the requirement for you to post both pictures, or admit
you've been lying about the existence of both the whole time, has been
in effect for a long time, I must once again ask why you act as if you
aren't aware of it? Do you really think anyone is going to buy your
deceptive implication that I am being less than 100% honest when you
must resort to such deceptive acts?
Please don't run and HIDE from this, as you have always done.
Explain the reason why you dishonestly present that which you have
done above.
I believe it's a result of your use and abuse of illegal drugs.
If you wish to make the tactic admission, by your own standards, that
this is the case, fine. If there is a different reason, you will, of
course, want to make it known.
--a true story
Summary Orig Paid Due
COSTS 9200.00 850.00 8350.00
FINE 500.00 500.00 0.00
SURCHARGE 150.00 150.00 0.00
RESTITUTION 0.00 0.00 0.00
OTHER 0.00 0.00 0.00
$9850.00 $1500.00 $8350.00
Yes, Gregory Scott "Piggly Wiggly" Hanson still owes over
$8000.00 related to his convictions for BEATING his ex-wife.
"I am now a "founded" child abuser for making a
7 year old take a fast cold shower."
-- Gregory Scot "Piggly Wiggly" Hanson bragging in MID
<cu6H6.14493$3c6.3...@news1.elmhst1.il.home.com>
In Message-ID:
<c7be6a38-8d1d-4c0a...@n38g2000yqf.googlegroups.com>
Gregory Scott "Piggly Wiggly" Hanson admitted that by his standards,
he RAPED his ex-wife. The same ex-wife he was twice convicted for
BEATING.
Greegor
KBW > Is that like your CON that the information
KBW > you pose below is about me, even after
KBW > you ADMITTED it is not?
G >Got a LINK to where I "admitted" that, Kent?
KBW > Yes. And as soon as you post the picture
KBW > of David dressed as a Nazi and the one of
KBW > me on a pony,
I THOUGHT not! LOL
> or admit you've been lying about the
> existence of both the whole time, I'll post it. Many other links as
> well.
KBW > Since the requirement for you
You REQUIRE something? ROFL
> to post both pictures, or admit
> you've been lying about the existence of both the whole time, has been
> in effect for a long time, I must once again ask why you act as if you
> aren't aware of it?
> Do you really think anyone is going to buy your
> deceptive implication that I am being less than 100% honest
You ARE Kent Bradley Wills!
> when you
> must resort to such deceptive acts?
> Please don't run and HIDE from this, as you have always done.
> Explain the reason why you dishonestly present that which you have
> done above.
KBW > I believe it's a result of your use and abuse of
KBW > illegal drugs.
Kent Wills Classic deception B.
Kent routinely says opponents are
A. Drunks
B. Druggies
C. Mentally Ill
D. Already conceded to Kent's argument
E. Question was already asked and answered ( ? )
It's as if Kent is an automation that is WAY too simple.
KBW > If you wish to make the tactic admission,
You mean a tacit admission?
> by your own standards, that
> this is the case, fine. If there is a different reason, you will, of
> course, want to make it known.
Could you please diagram your sentence?
In English?
Kent Wills
<gree...@gmail.com> wrote:
>G > Kent Wills, ever the con artist.
>
>KBW > Is that like your CON that the information
>KBW > you pose below is about me, even after
>KBW > you ADMITTED it is not?
>
>G >Got a LINK to where I "admitted" that, Kent?
>
>KBW > Yes. �And as soon as you post the picture
>KBW > of David dressed as a Nazi and the one of
>KBW > me on a pony,
>
>I THOUGHT not! LOL
I can post it as soon as you post the picture of David dressed as
a Nazi and the picture of me on a pony, or admit you've been lying
about the existence of both the whole time.
>
>> or admit you've been lying about the
>> existence of both the whole time, I'll post it. �Many other links as
>> well.
>
>KBW > Since the requirement for you
>
>You REQUIRE something? ROFL
Yes. The requirement has been in place for a long time.
Your deeply rooted psychological INABILITY to be honest, except by
accident or force, prevents you from acknowledging this truth.
>
>> to post both pictures, or admit
>> you've been lying about the existence of both the whole time, has been
>> in effect for a long time, I must once again ask why you act as if you
>> aren't aware of it?
>
>
>> � Do you really think anyone is going to buy your
>> deceptive implication that I am being less than 100% honest
>
>You ARE Kent Bradley Wills!
You are psychologically UNABLE to be honest, except by accident
or force. It's great that you wish to proved this truth once again,
but no one, not one single person, is willing to disagree with this
truth. Since this truth has been accepted, apparently by everyone,
there is no need for you to continue to offer proof.
>
>http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:aK5FVD_b0wsJ:bulk.resource.org/courts.gov/states/Iowa/04-0202.asp.html+04-0202+Iowa&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
>
>> when you
>> must resort to such deceptive acts?
>
>> Please don't run and HIDE from this, as you have always done.
>> Explain the reason why you dishonestly present that which you have
>> done above.
>
>KBW > I believe it's a result of your use and abuse of
>KBW > illegal drugs.
>
>Kent Wills Classic deception B.
The admission, by YOUR standards, it is a result of your use and
abuse of illegal drugs accepted. I'll be sure to mention it from time
to time.
What's perhaps most sad is that you ADMIT your drug use and abuse
forces you to lie, then post that which you have admitted isn't about
me as if it were about me. In doing so, you enforce the TRUTH that
your admitted use and abuse of illegal drugs forces you to lie.
>
>Kent routinely says opponents are
>A. Drunks
Only if they make the claim.
>B. Druggies
Only if they make the claim.
>C. Mentally Ill
Only if they make the claim or offer evidence of such.
>D. Already conceded to Kent's argument
Only when they've done so.
>E. Question was already asked and answered ( ? )
Only when they ask a question multiple times AFTER it has been
answered.
>
>It's as if Kent is an automation that is WAY too simple.
>
>
>KBW > If you wish to make the tactic admission,
>
>You mean a tacit admission?
Your harping on a typo is equal to an outright admission by the
standards of Gregborn Logic�.
Thank you for your outright admission, by Gregborn Logic�
standards, that your lying was and is caused by the use and abuse of
illegal drugs.
>
>> by your own standards, that
>> this is the case, fine. �If there is a different reason, you will, of
>> course, want to make it known.
>
>Could you please diagram your sentence?
>In English?
Certainly, if I were so motivated.
--a true story
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<8db2eada-0546-4c1a...@n38g2000yqf.googlegroups.com>
Gregory Scott "Piggly Wiggly" Hanson admits that his use and abuse of
illegal drugs forced him to LIE about the existence of certain
photographs.
krp
"Kent Wills" <comp...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:l0cdj5tcqg9m76ksn...@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 26 Dec 2009 15:42:49 -0800 (PST), Greegor
> <gree...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>G > Kent Wills, ever the con artist.
>>
>>KBW > Is that like your CON that the information
>>KBW > you pose below is about me, even after
>>KBW > you ADMITTED it is not?
>>
>>Got a LINK to where I "admitted" that, Kent?
>
> Yes. And as soon as you post the picture of David dressed as a
> Nazi
And when are YOU going to post the photos of my wife you claim to have
had? 12th of NEVER?
Director
Flush.
Kent Wills
wrote:
Was I keeping you up? Minutes after I post you were compelled to
reply.
Your obsessive reloading of the group hoping that I will have
posted aside, I mentioned long ago, that I didn't keep them. Is there
a SPECIFIC reason you are deceptively acting like I didn't?
"Sometimes Greg is sloppy with things like that. I would agree the
significance of the difference may be just a wee bit over his head"
-- Kenneth Robert Pangborn, alcoholic (according to him)
owner/operator of KRP CONsulting and The A-Team commenting on his ONLY
on-line friend, Gregory Scott Hanson.
krp
>>>>G > Kent Wills, ever the con artist.
>>>>
>>>>KBW > Is that like your CON that the information
>>>>KBW > you pose below is about me, even after
>>>>KBW > you ADMITTED it is not?
>>>>Got a LINK to where I "admitted" that, Kent?
>
>>> Yes. And as soon as you post the picture of David dressed as a
>>> Nazi
>> And when are YOU going to post the photos of my wife you claim to have
>>had? 12th of NEVER?
> Was I keeping you up? Minutes after I post you were compelled to
> reply.
Am I not allowed to reply to you, Wills? You reply to MY posts that are
NOT addressed to YOu every day of the week. Did I make you CRY?
> Your obsessive reloading of the group hoping that I will have
> posted aside, I mentioned long ago, that I didn't keep them. Is there
> a SPECIFIC reason you are deceptively acting like I didn't?
Moore claims to have them, he's your BEST PAL, ask him for them and post
them on your Photobucket page. But since BOTH of you are LYING YOUR ASSES
OFF, nobody needs to hold their breath waiting for them. <giggle> Am I
picking on a poor retarded Polack, Ken?
Director
"krp" <kr...@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
>
>
> "Kent Wills" <comp...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:h6kfj5tpjc68abi9s...@4ax.com...
>
>
Flush.
Kent Wills
wrote:
[...]
>>> And when are YOU going to post the photos of my wife you claim to have
>>>had? 12th of NEVER?
>
>> Was I keeping you up? Minutes after I post you were compelled to
>> reply.
>
> Am I not allowed to reply to you, Wills?
Have I claimed, directly or via implication, that you are not?
I asked about whether I was keeping you up.
You've often whined that people are sitting in front of their
screens reloading the group so that they can reply to your posts
within minutes of you posting them.
Are you so drunk you think you are exempt from your own
standards? Serious question.
>You reply to MY posts that are
>NOT addressed to YOu every day of the week. Did I make you CRY?
No. But you did avoid answering the question.
Now that you have the avoidance game out of the way, please answer
the question I asked.
Was I keeping you up?
>
>> Your obsessive reloading of the group hoping that I will have
>> posted aside, I mentioned long ago, that I didn't keep them. Is there
>> a SPECIFIC reason you are deceptively acting like I didn't?
>
>
> Moore claims to have them,
I've seen no such claim from him. I have seen him state he does
NOT have them and never did.
>he's your BEST PAL,
We are very good friends, but to claim BEST PAL is a bit much. I'm
quite certain he has friends closer to him, in geographic location and
within the bonds of friendship.
>ask him for them and post
>them on your Photobucket page. But since BOTH of you are LYING YOUR ASSES
>OFF, nobody needs to hold their breath waiting for them.
David has stated he never had them. I once posted that I
presumed he did. My presumption was in error. It's not the first time
I've been wrong, and I dare state it won't be the last.
You may be so drunk that you see my presumption as to what David
had as a FACT CLAIM from David that he had it. If so, well, you need
to cease the boozing.
Few people would take my presumption as an absolute fact. A
lush, such as you consistently PROVE you are, clearly will (unless you
flat out LIED about what David wrote), but that's YOUR issue to
address.
><giggle> Am I
>picking on a poor retarded Polack, Ken?
>
Do you often ask yourself bigoted questions?
And why do you HATE immigrants so much? Do we scare you?
"(CONTEXT REMOVED AS TO THE BELOW CLAIM)"
-- Kenneth Robert Pangborn, alcoholic (according to him)
owner/operator of KRP CONsulting and The A-Team accidentally admitting
he alters the context of posts when he replies.
MID FyUom.1363$Jd7....@nwrddc02.gnilink.net
krp
>>>> And when are YOU going to post the photos of my wife you claim to
>>>> have
>>>>had? 12th of NEVER?
>>> Your obsessive reloading of the group hoping that I will have
>>> posted aside, I mentioned long ago, that I didn't keep them. Is there
>>> a SPECIFIC reason you are deceptively acting like I didn't?
>> Moore claims to have them,
> I've seen no such claim from him. I have seen him state he does
> NOT have them and never did.
So then you are ADMITTING that neither of you have them and the issue
has been BULLSHIT all along. Not that everyone who wasted time following
this debate didn't already KN OW that for 2,000% certain anyway.
> David has stated he never had them. I once posted that I
> presumed he did. My presumption was in error. It's not the first time
I dare suggest you LIED. You really can't show us where you got them.
Don't say her Facebook page, because we ALL know that would be a lie. You
two went down in flames on that one. She NEVER put ANY photos of herself on
the Facebook page she was using. That Facebook page was NEVER in HER name.
SO KUNT the Felon, think HARD before you make the claim you got them there,
because AT A MINIMUM you would be admitting to STALKING. Which Moore did to
get the names for his little INFANTILE STALKING Keyword list of names of
people to HARASS via e-mail. Hisd "MARKS" as he calls them.
Greegor
it is as a tool to sell his half truths or outright lies.
Kent Wills
<gree...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Kent LIES all the time. If he ever uses the truth
>it is as a tool to sell his half truths or outright lies.
If your claim is true, why are you UNABLE to expose just one lie
from me? In order to try, you are ALWAYS reduced to lying. Then you
CRY when you lies are exposed.
BTW, you've admitted the information linked below isn't about me.
Unless you are going to admit that was a lie (it wasn't but you can
claim it was), you will have to admit your current claim that it's
about me is a lie.
So tell the readers which is the case. Where you lying then, or
are you lying now?
Of course, you'll HIDE from this, as you always do.
>
>http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=ia&vol=sc%5C20050506%5C04-0202&invol=1
>
>http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:aK5FVD_b0wsJ:bulk.resource.org/courts.gov/states/Iowa/04-0202.asp.html+04-0202+Iowa&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
>
>http://www.doc.state.ia.us/InmateInfo.asp?OffenderCd=1155768
>
>http://www.public-records-now.com/Search/SearchResults.aspx?vw=people&input=name&fn=Kent&ln=Wills&city=Rogers&state=AR
>
>http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:52_e_mNczjoJ:www.assetsalliance.org/downloads/SEP_06_Bankruptcy_Powerpoint.ppt
--a true story
In Message-ID:
Kent Wills
wrote:
[...]
>>>> Your obsessive reloading of the group hoping that I will have
>>>> posted aside, I mentioned long ago, that I didn't keep them. Is there
>>>> a SPECIFIC reason you are deceptively acting like I didn't?
>
>>> Moore claims to have them,
>
>> I've seen no such claim from him. I have seen him state he does
>> NOT have them and never did.
>
> So then you are ADMITTING that neither of you have them and the issue
>has been BULLSHIT all along.
To the best of my knowledge, David never had them. Certainly
he's never claimed to have them. The claim that he ever did exists
solely within your drunken hallucinations.
I did have them, but deleted them shortly after you RAN from the
post linking to them on Photobucket.
After I mentioned this you began DEMANDING I make them available
again. I don't expect anyone is falling for your deception.
>Not that everyone who wasted time following
>this debate didn't already KN OW that for 2,000% certain anyway.
>
I'm sure everyone sees how AFTER I mentioned I didn't keep them
you got real brave and DEMANDED I post them.
It's possible one or two people on earth are so stupid they would
buy your act. They're the same type of people who would hire you, a
drunken (unless you lied) con artist, as their trial consultant.
>> David has stated he never had them. I once posted that I
>> presumed he did. My presumption was in error. It's not the first time
>
> I dare suggest you LIED.
The suggestions of a drunken loser, such as you so often PROVE
yourself to be, don't hold much weight with the world. Not to imply I
can get anyone to do anything I want merely by making a suggestion.
>You really can't show us where you got them.
True. But then, where I got them wasn't the issue. I was very
open about the E-mails.
>Don't say her Facebook page, because we ALL know that would be a lie.
I already stated they were sent to me in E-mail. Unlike you, I
don't lie, so I don't need to recall any lies. I present the truth,
which is far easier to remember.
>You
>two went down in flames on that one. She NEVER put ANY photos of herself on
>the Facebook page she was using.
Prove it, unless you're lying (we both KNOW you are).
The profile picture was, until the page was deleted, of her
portly face.
I wish I had gotten a screen cap so that I could PROVE you the
drunken liar you are. Sadly, doing so didn't occur to me until after
the page was gone.
>That Facebook page was NEVER in HER name.
I never claimed it was. In fact, I don't recall anyone claiming
it was.
Once again you try to debate a topic no one disputes.
You do realize how bad that makes you look, right?
>SO KUNT the Felon, think HARD before you make the claim you got them there,
Via E-mail, just as I've always stated.
>because AT A MINIMUM you would be admitting to STALKING.
How drunk are you that you think someone sending me pictures of
your wife will equate to my stalking her?
Be specific. How much booze did you guzzle before you posted
your claim?
>Which Moore did to
>get the names for his little INFANTILE STALKING Keyword list of names of
>people to HARASS via e-mail. Hisd "MARKS" as he calls them.
Even if true, I fail to see how such an action would factor into
your drunken claim that someone sending me something via E-mail
equates to my stalking someone.
I look forward to your explanation, though I fully expect you to
RUN like the drunken coward you were, are, and will likely forever be.
"CPS cases are legal matters. Offering advice IS practicing law
without a license."
Kenneth Robert Pangborn admitting he practices law without a
license in misc.legal
Fritz Wuehler
Will somebody PLEASE post the pics of both these idiots mothers sucking
tiger wood's dick so that both of 'em will shut the fuck up?
thanks in advance
freedom
My apologies. The poster known as "Greegor," who is not all that bright,
frequently crossposts into a.p.a-s. He does this because I use a remailer
to post to usenet, and he has therefore concluded that anyone who uses or
runs a remailer is me.
I've set followups.
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"Carol Ann you don't KNOW shit! Youy are LYING! ...... Jesus Christ you are
one DESPICABLE CUNT!!!! ....Bitch you are GUTTER SLIME!"
--Kenneth Pangborn, from a usenet argument with a female debator,
highlighting his typical views on women
"Rumors about ken are true, he is a bad man. That is why both my mother and
I ran out of there as fast as we could back in the late summer of 2002. He
ruined my life and my moms life....His business is a scam, as he is in the
rest of his life. He enjoys child pornography and was investigated for that
as well....he'll call my mom 20 times a day until she answers...[Ken's
sister-in-law Rebecca Reilly] wouldnt come over to our house anymore
because of how he would talk to her and come on to her....and he had over
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--Ken Pangborn's daughter Megan
"Blood, breath or urine?"
--question to Ken Pangborn from a Florida police officer in November 2008,
during a traffic stop from which Pangborn was subsequently charged with
DUI**
"...beating [some kids] into a bloody pulp is the ONLY thing
that would get through to them."
--Ken Pangborn on child rearing
"If you call the police, I'll knock out all of your teeth, I'll cripple
you. I may go to prison for it, but when I get out, I'll be able to walk,
but you will still be a cripple."
--Pangborn puppet Greg Hanson of alt.support.child-protective-services **,
in a verbal threat to his girlfriend
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MOORE ;
Linda Michelle Boss of Centralia, Missouri is a 32-year old mother of
four.
In 2006, she began having an extramarital affair with a coworker at
the
SONIC restaurant where she worked, a teenaged boy named Brice Wayne
Windsor.
She then attempted to eradicate her children's father, who has always
been
an involved parent, from their lives, through tactics such as
threats,
attempted baseless restraining orders interference with phone
communication,
violation of parenting time agreements and brainwashing her children
with
lies regarding their father.
In April 2006, Boss attempted to obtain a restraining order which
would have
prevented any contact between the father and the four children. The
grounds
for her request were, in part, (1) that he called police when she and
her
friends threatened him, (2) that he told his daughter that he might
come to
watch her at her school track meet. Understandably, the court denied
her
request for an order of protection.
Boss and Windsor have repeatedly interfered with the father's attempts
to
communicate with his children. Often, one or the other would pick up
the
phone when he called, shout an obscenity or a threat, then hang up the
phone
before he could ask to speak with his children. On one such occasion,
Brice
Windsor answered the phone and stated "When I get done with your wife,
I'm
going to [rape] your daughters" while Boss laughed in the background.
The
daughters were 13 and 12 years of age at the time of this incident.
Postal mail which is sent to the children never seems to make it to
them.
Most notably, after Boss had the telephone service disconnected, a
prepaid
phone card was mailed to the daughter but never reached her.
On multiple occasions, Boss agreed to the father having specific dates
and
times of parenting time with the children, then violated the
agreements and
hid the children from the father when he traveled to pick them up (a
seven-hour drive one way.) As a result of her lack of moral character,
Boss
also became pregnant with an illegitimate child while she was still
married
to her children's father. Although it was physically and medically
impossible for him to have fathered the child, Boss fraudulently
reported
the matter to Social Services and is attempting to obtain child
support for
Jade Elizabeth Windsor, due to Windsor's apparent inability to support
his
own (alleged) child.
Due to her financial irresponsibility, Boss' home was foreclosed on.
The
four children have had to be uprooted from their home for the fourth
time in
as many years, and she has now packed them into a tiny trailer with
Brice
Windsor and his family.
Among Boss' other abusive actions
. Her ten-year old son stated that he was hungry. Boss told him "fend
for
yourself." The child then tried to cook dinner for himself and
severely
burned himself. The mother did not seek treatment.
. Left her daughter home alone with a broken leg so that she could
meet
Brice Windsor for her affair.
. Left six-year old child home without supervision while having an
extramarital affair.
. Inability to keep a job for any length of time, due to her inability
to
get along with anyone.
-----------------
Hometown
Centralia, Missouri
Birthdate October 12, 1974
Occupation
SONIC carhop, gas station clerk
Claims to shame
Repeated violations of parenting agreements;
extramarital affair with teenaged boy in front of children;
parental alienation/brainwashing of children;
numerous instances of child abuse and neglect;
became pregnant from her affair while still married
Audio
Linda Boss brags about bad legal advice
=======================================================
Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 12:53:01 -0500
From: "Joseph M. O'Connor" <jmo...@geocities.com>
Reply-To: jmo...@geocities.com
To: PangK <Pa...@aol.com>
Subject: Re: I'm dying to know. References:
<89a8b040.34fea...@aol.com>
[ ... ]
DDM> Oh, and btw....you might want to give a message to your friend
oconner.
DDM> He's been gloating around the newsgroups about having gotten me
fired
DDM> from my job....I should clarify the situation a little. I'm a
DDM> consultant....meaning that I get sent to various companies to do
work
DDM> for a prescribed amount of time. In this case it was Saralee. My
DDM> contract was to be finished at the end of January....jmoc's
antics
DDM> simply caused it to end about eight days early. I was never a
Saralee
DDM> employee and therefore they CANNOT fire me. I am an employee of
a
DDM> consulting agency, which FWIW had me working again at another
company
DDM> within two days. I only bring this up because I hear you and
friends
DDM> rubbing it in about my "unemployment", and think it's kinda odd.
=======================================================
http://www.thetimesonline.com/articles/2007/06/10/news/porter_county/...
Sunday, June 10, 2007 | No comments posted.
Sex offender accused of not registering
PORTAGE | A sex offender who police say was evicted from his Portage
home on
May 22 and then failed to notify police of a new address within 72
hours as
is required by law has been arrested on a felony charge of failure to
register as a sex offender.
Battery | Todd Yates, 28, 2970 Monnier St., Portage; ****David Moore,
36,
Calumet City*****; Paul Dimiceli, 30, Dyer; Johnathan Brandon, 18,
2104
Lapine St., Portage; Nicholas Mandich, 23, 309 Kraus Drive,
Valparaiso;
Derek Nowacki, 27, 1018 S. 22nd St., Chesterton; Jeffery Knight, 40,
717
George St., Valparaiso; Devena Anderson, 31, East Chicago; David
Carlson,
40, 644 N. Calumet, Valparaiso; Roger Reese, 53, 3461 Sunnyside,
Portage.
ARRESTS
> Monday through Friday [ June 4 to June 8 ]
> Battery David Moore, 36, Calumet City
> David Daniel Moore court records: David D. Moore
> DOB 9/26/70 850 Buffalo Avenue, Calumet City, IL
> case 64D 060706FD 4989 Monday June 4th 2007
> Class D Felony, Assault on somebody under 14 years old
> pretrial February 8th 8:30 hearing on March 12th 1PM
> The North Porter County complex is in Portage, Indiana
David Daniel Moore AKA David Ulanowski Random
DOB 9/26/70 Birth Mother Judith Ulanowski
Front Left pine tree and tree on blvd
Front Right pine tree stop sign
Right Side with bird feeder
Right Rear door
Parcel details
http://198.173.15.21/ccao/ParcelDetails.asp?PIN=30182330330000
Map
http://198.173.15.21/ccao/MapIndex.asp?action=parcel&PIN=30182330330000
Photo
http://198.173.15.21/AssessorPics/GeoSpan/30182330330000.jpg
http://www.cookcountyassessor.com/data/searchflat/ParcelImage.asp?pin=30182330330000
Dave's Adoptive Mother Janet M Moore 68 Calumet City, IL
http://www.whitepages.com/search/ReverseAddress?street=850+buffalo+ave&where=Calumet+City%2C+IL
Dave's Birth Mother Judith A ULANOWSKI 71 Johnstown, PA
http://www.whitepages.com/search/FindPerson?firstname=judith&name=ulanowski&where=Johnstown%2C+PA
http://www.whitepages.com/search/ReverseAddress?street=116+donald+lane&where=Johnstown%2C+PA
http://www.ancestry.com/facts/Ulanowski-family-history.ashx
Ulanowski Name Meaning and History
Polish: habitational name for someone from any of various places in
Poland called Ulany, Ulanów, or Ulanowice. The places are named with
the Polish personal name Ulan.
http://198.173.15.21/ccao/ParcelDetails.asp?PIN=30182330330000
Cook County Assessor's Office: Property Search Details
Property Index Number: 30-18-233-033-0000
View Property Picture
View Property Map
Address : 850 Buffalo Ave
City : Calumet City
Township : Thornton
Neighborhood : 61
Taxcode : 37030
Assessed Valuation
2008
First Pass Assessment 2007
Board of Review Certified
Land Assessed Value 3,025
2,521
Building Assessed Value 16,434
14,957
Total Assessed Value 19,459
17,478
Estimated Market Value 121,619
109,238
Property Characteristics
Class: 2-11
Description : Two to Six Apartments, Over 62 Years
Residence Type Two Story
Use Multi Family
Apartments Two
Exterior Construction Masonry
Full Baths 2
Half Baths 0
Basement1 Partial and Rec Room
Attic None
Central Air No
Number of Fireplaces 1
Garage Size/Type2 2.5 car detached
Building Square Footage: 1,752
Land Square Footage 6,304
Assessment Pass First Pass
Age: 27
Land Square Footage: 6,304
1 Excluded from Building Square footage, except apartment
2 Excluded from Building Square footage
Sunday, June 10, 2007
ARRESTS
Monday through Friday [ June 4 to June 8 ]
Battery David Moore, 36, Calumet City
David Daniel Moore court records: David D. Moore
DOB 9/26/70 850 Buffalo Avenue, Calumet City, IL
case 64D 060706FD 4989 Monday June 4th 2007
Class D Felony, Assault on somebody under 14 years old
pretrial February 8th 8:30 hearing on March 12th 1PM
The North Porter County complex is in Portage, Indiana
219 759 8219 no e-records, won't fax or e-mail records
paid $2000 bond, Attorney Robert Harper Portage, Indiana
does not have a probation officer pre-trial
Keywords:
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850 Buffalo Avenue, Calumet City, Illinois 60409,
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obsessive compulsive disorder, ULANOWSKI,
AKA David ULANOWSKI Random,
TVinternet
Greegor <gree...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> David
Flush.
Spanking Kenny
> And when are YOU going to post the photos of...
You have zero qualifications for even commenting on someone putting
anything but way too much buffet where their mouth is, Kenny m'boy.
People need to be reminded that you have in fact been given the
opportunity to produce anything or everything to back up any/all of
your legendary drivel, at absolutely no expense to you, in a public
place of your choosing, at your convenience, in the presence of
anyone else you wanted there including the police if you deemed it
necessary... in response to **your own damned challenge** ... and
your lying, cowardly ass bailed big time.
I tell you it was one of the funniest things I've ever seen done
to you. There you were puffing your chest out daring someone to
meet you in person. That someone jumped all over your empty words
like they actually weren't repulsed by the mere thought of spending
time in your company. And of course your response was instantly
pissing all over yourself and pulling every desperation move your
little mind could come up with to weasel out of the deal.
Man what a load of egg you had on your face that day Kenny....
/me laughs at Kenny's antics
Greegor
Newsgroups: alt.support.child-protective-services, alt.privacy.anon-
server, alt.law-enforcement, misc.legal, alt.true-crime
From: Spanking Kenny <kennyismybi...@none.invalid>
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 11:17:03 -0500
Subject: Re: FCON?
KRP > And when are YOU going to post the
KRP > photos of my wife you claim to have...
DDM > You have zero qualifications for even
DDM > commenting on someone putting anything
DDM > but way too much buffet where their
DDM > mouth is, Kenny m'boy.
Your mothers wear army boots.
DDM > People need to be reminded that you
DDM > have in fact been given the opportunity
DDM > to produce anything or everything to
DDM > back up any/all of your legendary
DDM > drivel, at absolutely no expense to
DDM > you, in a public place of your choosing,
DDM > at your convenience, in the presence
DDM > of anyone else you wanted there
DDM > including the police if you deemed it
DDM > necessary... in response to **your own
DDM > damned challenge** ... and your lying,
DDM > cowardly ass bailed big time.
Ken was a speaker at an event in Chicago, near you.
You pissed your pants and now you're trying
to reverse the story. How amazing!
DDM > I tell you it was one of the funniest
DDM > things I've ever seen done to you.
DDM > There you were puffing your chest out
DDM > daring someone to meet you in person.
DDM > That someone jumped all over your
DDM > empty words like they actually weren't
DDM > repulsed by the mere thought of
DDM > spending time in your company. And
DDM > of course your response was instantly
DDM > pissing all over yourself and pulling
DDM > every desperation move your little
DDM > mind could come up with to weasel
DDM > out of the deal.
DDM > Man what a load of egg you had
DDM > on your face that day Kenny....
That's not the way your ex-wife described it.
DDM > /me laughs at Kenny's antics
Yes, You are a legend in your own mind, Dave.
You're a MANLY anonymous poster, aren't you?
krp
"Spanking Kenny" <kennyis...@none.invalid> wrote in message
news:hhiiq0$1qa$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
> I tell you it was one of the funniest things I've ever seen done
> to you. There you were puffing your chest out daring someone to
> meet you in person. That someone jumped all over your empty words
> like they actually weren't repulsed by the mere thought of spending
> time in your company. And of course your response was instantly
> pissing all over yourself and pulling every desperation move your
> little mind could come up with to weasel out of the deal.
I didn't run the FAIRY did by suggesting a place miles away, I offered
to meet right here, right now. The challenge was OBVIOUSLY BULLSHIT. I'll
renew the offer RIGHT HERE.
womanGoddess
> DIPPY DAVEY MOORE"Spanking Kenny" <kennyismybi...@none.invalid> wrote in message
Isn't " fairy" a homosexual related word? "
Kennie, are you showing once again how gay you actually are?
Moe
Eternal FOREVER KNIGHT fan
" A vampire cop? REALLY?"
"http://home.earthlink.net/~19ranger57/blies.htm
Know your scum--- http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com
Kent Wills
<gree...@gmail.com> wrote:
[...]
>DDM > /me laughs at Kenny's antics
>
>Yes, You are a legend in your own mind, Dave.
>
>You're a MANLY anonymous poster, aren't you?
Not everyone who uses a remailer is David. I realize your
Fregoli makes this very difficult for you to accept, but it is the
truth.
--a true story
In Message-ID:
Kent Wills
wrote:
>DIPPY DAVEY MOORE
Prove David wrote the post to which you've replied. Your drunken
rants don't reach the level of proof to the sober mind.
At least you're able to admit the challenge YOU offered was
nothing more than the LIE everyone reading knew it was.
This was and is a big step for you, Ken, and I honestly applaud
you for being able to admit your challenge was nothing more than a
lie. Keep working at it and you'll be able to be honest in most
everything (if you have any clients, being able to lie on their behalf
might actually be a good thing).
"And you RULE OUT that it could be MOORE my biggest
fan and GAY lover."
Kenneth Robert Pangborn, of KRP Consulting and The A-Team, LYING
and claiming David Moore is his gay lover. Message-ID:
<_MlOj.598$pH4.7@trnddc06>
Kent Wills
<fvr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>On Dec 31, 12:47�pm, "krp" <kr...@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
>> DIPPY DAVEY MOORE"Spanking Kenny" <kennyismybi...@none.invalid> wrote in message
>>
>> news:hhiiq0$1qa$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>>
>> > I tell you it was one of the funniest things I've ever seen done
>> > to you. There you were puffing your chest out daring someone to
>> > meet you in person. That someone jumped all over your empty words
>> > like they actually weren't repulsed by the mere thought of spending
>> > time in your company. And of course your response was instantly
>> > pissing all over yourself and pulling every desperation move your
>> > little mind could come up with to weasel out of the deal.
>>
>> � � I didn't run the FAIRY did by suggesting a place miles away, I offered
>> to meet right here, right now. The challenge was OBVIOUSLY BULLSHIT. I'll
>> renew the offer RIGHT HERE.
>
> Isn't " fairy" a homosexual related word? "
If I understand correctly, it's often used by self loathing
closet gays. Of course, Pangborn has been outted, so this doesn't fit
him exactly.
>
> Kennie, are you showing once again how gay you actually are?
>
I don't understand why he is so determined to prove he's gay.
Clearly everyone accepts that he is. No one appears to care at all.
Yet he MUST provide the PROOF that he's into guys nearly every day.
krp
"womanGoddess" <fvr...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:fed4ff5f-1d2a-4cc0...@j5g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
On Dec 31, 12:47 pm, "krp" <kr...@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
> DIPPY DAVEY MOORE"Spanking Kenny" <kennyismybi...@none.invalid> wrote in
> message
>
> news:hhiiq0$1qa$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>
> > I tell you it was one of the funniest things I've ever seen done
> > to you. There you were puffing your chest out daring someone to
> > meet you in person. That someone jumped all over your empty words
> > like they actually weren't repulsed by the mere thought of spending
> > time in your company. And of course your response was instantly
> > pissing all over yourself and pulling every desperation move your
> > little mind could come up with to weasel out of the deal.
>
> I didn't run the FAIRY did by suggesting a place miles away, I offered
> to meet right here, right now. The challenge was OBVIOUSLY BULLSHIT. I'll
> renew the offer RIGHT HERE.
MOE> Isn't " fairy" a homosexual related word? "
If you NEED it to be, I suppose. But NOT necessarily. Some gay men are
"fairies" but only a SMALL percent. Some heterosexual men are "fairies" but
only a small percent. What ate YOU looking for Maureen? Are you AFRAID of
homosexuals? I'm not.
womanGoddess
> "womanGoddess" <fvrn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
Because you yourself ARE a homosexual.
I am not "afraid" of homosexuals Kennie. Not even your sorry fat ass.
krp
> > > I tell you it was one of the funniest things I've ever seen done
> > > to you. There you were puffing your chest out daring someone to
> > > meet you in person. That someone jumped all over your empty words
> > > like they actually weren't repulsed by the mere thought of spending
> > > time in your company. And of course your response was instantly
> > > pissing all over yourself and pulling every desperation move your
> > > little mind could come up with to weasel out of the deal.
>
> > I didn't run the FAIRY did by suggesting a place miles away, I offered
> > to meet right here, right now. The challenge was OBVIOUSLY BULLSHIT.
> > I'll
> > renew the offer RIGHT HERE.
>
> MOE> Isn't " fairy" a homosexual related word? "
>
> If you NEED it to be, I suppose. But NOT necessarily. Some gay men are
> "fairies" but only a SMALL percent. Some heterosexual men are "fairies"
> but
> only a small percent. What ate YOU looking for Maureen? Are you AFRAID of
> homosexuals? I'm not.
MOE> Because you yourself ARE a homosexual.
Another BITCHY "FACT" claim from Maureen McAllister. A rather funny one
considering I have been married to three WOMEN and have FOUR CHILDREN.
Married to my late first wife for 6 years, my second wife for 22 years, and
my present wife now for 5 years (almost 6). Maureen - IF I was gay - I'd
not be a closet dweller, I'd admit it. Your problem is that I am a flaming
HETEROSEXUAL. I was quite the sporting man in my single years. I like women.
I like brunettes. (My mom was a brunette) I am also a highly unrepentant
"leg man." All 3 of my wives had GREAT legs, although I think my Cubana has
the best legs of the bunch. I have dated some hot women in my time including
a Miss America. Yes, Maureen, in my lifetime I have had intimate relations
with lots of gringas, and some women of color. Including my first wife that
was mainly Native American, a Jewish woman (engaged to her, my High School
sweetheart) Asian, African and some Latinas thrown in. Now, Maureen, as I
told you, I prefer Latin women, not just for their beauty, but their
independence and passion. I find Latin women by far the MOST attractive
women there are.
I respect the gays in the world, partially because they are usually
smarter than the average bear, extremely talented, and genuinely nice
people. They don't scare me, Maureen, I have had gay neighbors several times
in my lifetime. They were great neighbors and friends. I have worked with
gay men and women. I must admit, Maureen, that I feel MUCH MORE comfortable
in their company than I do an UPTIGHT BITCH like you. The idea of gays being
married doesn't make me feel threatened.
I know how you feel about my marriage, Maureen you've said it enough
times in enough different ways. You think I have a Latin wife because they
are "submissive." Your pal Moore says the same thing. But, you know,
Maureen, anyone who says that is ignorant of Latin women. Latin women are
independent as hell, and don't take shit from anyone. Does the name Lorena
Bobbitt mean anything to you? A man who beats on a Latina is likely to wake
up with his severed balls in his mouth. It's a nice PLOY by people like you,
so DESPERATE to try to create something with which to disparage me,
probably because you need so badly to feel better about yourselves.
womanGoddess
> Maureen McAllister"womanGoddess" <fvrn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
(( YAWNS))
You are the one who uses the words dick, pecker tracks, peckerwood,
pansy, mention massive cum shots in regards to one guy you imagine "
cursed" and you often refer to male posters you attack by their "
manhood" and by their anus//butts.
Why would a supposedly straight man say such things about another man
unless he is secretly homosexual?
It also explains why you keep trying to get Moore's attention. Maybe
yu have delusions he is sexually attracted to you.. or maybe you are
sexually attracted to HIM.
I like your long tirade response. You reacted the way I intended.
GOOD DOGGIE!!
BTW Kenniepoop, you really should control yourself better. If you
aren't gay so what? Your noise in this is amusing.
Thou dost protest too much.
((laughing))
Greegor
womanGoddess
>
> news:512a026e-b17c-479d...@m16g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > > > I tell you it was one of the funniest things I've ever seen done
> > > > to you. There you were puffing your chest out daring someone to
> > > > meet you in person. That someone jumped all over your empty words
> > > > like they actually weren't repulsed by the mere thought of spending
> > > > time in your company. And of course your response was instantly
> > > > pissing all over yourself and pulling every desperation move your
> > > > little mind could come up with to weasel out of the deal.
>
> > > I didn't run the FAIRY did by suggesting a place miles away, I offered
> > > to meet right here, right now. The challenge was OBVIOUSLY BULLSHIT.
> > > I'll
> > > renew the offer RIGHT HERE.
>
> > MOE> Isn't " fairy" a homosexual related word? "
>
> > If you NEED it to be, I suppose. But NOT necessarily. Some gay men are
> > "fairies" but only a SMALL percent. Some heterosexual men are "fairies"
> > but
> > only a small percent. What ate YOU looking for Maureen? Are you AFRAID of
> > homosexuals? I'm not.
>
> MOE> Because you yourself ARE a homosexual.
>
> Another BITCHY "FACT" claim from Maureen McAllister. A rather funny one
> considering I have been married to three WOMEN and have FOUR CHILDREN.
There's no reason why gay males can't marry females and " father"
children" It makes a good cover.
> Married to my late first wife for 6 years, my second wife for 22 years, and
> my present wife now for 5 years (almost 6). Maureen - IF I was gay - I'd
> not be a closet dweller, I'd admit it. Your problem is that I am a flaming
> HETEROSEXUAL
" Flaming heterosexual?" What's that? Highly macho macho man with
hair on your chest and guzzling beer while watching football and
treating your wife like a slave?
Too much testosterone type of " flaming heterosexual"? You do, know,
don't you that males who have high amounts of testosterone are often
abusers and rapists, don't you?
" Flaming heterosexual" sounds like a disease.
Are you SURE you didn't mean to type " Flaming HEMMORHOIDS"?
A guy of your advanced age would have many ailments.
>. I was quite the sporting man in my single years. I like women.
> I like brunettes. (My mom was a brunette)
Oh, mom-fukking.
And I doubt you were a babe magnet when you were young. You act like
you had to beg to get laid. And when on the rare occasion you did get
a female to be with you, you had premature launches, so to speak.
> I am also a highly unrepentant
> "leg man." All 3 of my wives had GREAT legs, although I think my Cubana has
> the best legs of the bunch.
How about them as PEOPLE Kennie? You know as INDIVIDUALS, not as
alleged heterosexual objects.
BTW gay males sometimes have really nice legs, particularly when they
dress up in drag.
:-D
>I have dated some hot women in my time including
> a Miss America.
(( Rolls eyes))
Yeah right, and you were Hugh Hefner's best buddy.
Yes, Maureen, in my lifetime I have had intimate relations
> with lots of gringas, and some women of color. Including my first wife that
> was mainly Native American, a Jewish woman (engaged to her, my High School
> sweetheart) Asian, African and some Latinas thrown in.
So much for true loves, right Kennie? And so much for keeping it in
your pants to save for those you really care for.
(( ROlls eyes)) Kennie, seriously if you think I'm gonna believe your
grandiose claims, you must think I'm gullible.
You do realize that your bragging looks a lot those BS liars who
think they are such studs?
" I bagged a Miss America."
" I did an Indian AND a Jew at the same time."
" They all lusted after me!"
Sheesh!! You are such a liar.
>Now, Maureen, as I
> told you, I prefer Latin women, not just for their beauty, but their
> independence and passion. I find Latin women by far the MOST attractive
> women there are.
>
> I respect the gays in the world, partially because they are usually
> smarter than the average bear, extremely talented, and genuinely nice
> people. They don't scare me, Maureen,
Because you are secretly gay yourself.
> I have had gay neighbors several times
> in my lifetime. They were great neighbors and friends.
And no doubt buddies in bed right Kennie?
Having a GAY OLD TIME in the neighborhood?
(( laughing))
> I have worked with
> gay men and women. I must admit, Maureen, that I feel MUCH MORE comfortable
> in their company than I do an UPTIGHT BITCH like you
Uptight? Me?
ROTFLOL!!
Just because I don't see YOU as sexually attractive that makes me an "
uptight bitch"?
And me liking Tom Welling and all.....
MMMMMMMM!! Tom has a nice ass.....
(( Ahem)) So what were you saying about me being an " uptight
bitch"....?
>. The idea of gays being
> married doesn't make me feel threatened.
After all its an option for you if Barbara wises up and dumps your
ass.
>
> I know how you feel about my marriage, Maureen you've said it enough
> times in enough different ways.
I feel sorry for any woman who marries a piece of shit like you.
>You think I have a Latin wife because they
> are "submissive."
Liar. I never said that.
>Your pal Moore says the same thing. But, you know,
> Maureen, anyone who says that is ignorant of Latin women. Latin women are
> independent as hell, and don't take shit from anyone
Unless they are beaten into submission. Latin women are like any
other women Kennie and you damn well know it. Some are dominant and
opinionated, some are submissive. BTW the assumption is that Barbara
is heterosexual. It would be a good cover for BOTH of you of you both
were actually gay.
What, there are no Lesbian Latinas?
(( Giggling))
Oh, that reminds me. When YOU post as " giggling" that sounds odd for
a supposedly straight man to describe his amusement.
>. Does the name Lorena
> Bobbitt mean anything to you?
Yup, Rapist abusive hubby, she chopped his little dick off, he got it
sewn back on and started in some dumb porno with it.
Are you implying your wife might cut off your teenie weenie?
Not that you haven't actually SEEN it for two decades , considering
your girth.
>A man who beats on a Latina is likely to wake
> up with his severed balls in his mouth. It's a nice PLOY by people like you,
> so DESPERATE to try to create something with which to disparage me,
> probably because you need so badly to feel better about yourselves.
Kennie if I wanted to feel better about myself, I could do volunteer
work or donate to the food pantry or something.
Dissing your sorry ass is just an amusement.
womanGoddess
>
> news:512a026e-b17c-479d...@m16g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > > > I tell you it was one of the funniest things I've ever seen done
> > > > to you. There you were puffing your chest out daring someone to
> > > > meet you in person. That someone jumped all over your empty words
> > > > like they actually weren't repulsed by the mere thought of spending
> > > > time in your company. And of course your response was instantly
> > > > pissing all over yourself and pulling every desperation move your
> > > > little mind could come up with to weasel out of the deal.
>
> > > I didn't run the FAIRY did by suggesting a place miles away, I offered
> > > to meet right here, right now. The challenge was OBVIOUSLY BULLSHIT.
> > > I'll
> > > renew the offer RIGHT HERE.
>
> > MOE> Isn't " fairy" a homosexual related word? "
>
> > If you NEED it to be, I suppose. But NOT necessarily. Some gay men are
> > "fairies" but only a SMALL percent. Some heterosexual men are "fairies"
> > but
> > only a small percent. What ate YOU looking for Maureen? Are you AFRAID of
> > homosexuals? I'm not.
>
> MOE> Because you yourself ARE a homosexual.
>
> Another BITCHY "FACT" claim
Thank you for admitting it is a FACT.
womanGoddess
BTW Kennie, maybe you should have looked up the term " flaming
heterosexual" before you called yourself one.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=flaming+heterosexual
******************
. flaming heterosexual
A male who is married and possibly has children but acts like a
flaming queen. He may be in denial or in the closet or just overly
effeminate.
Person 1: What! Christopher Lowell is Married?
Person 2: Yeah, he is a flaming heterosexual.
flaming heterosexual
A heterosexual who is overtly sexual, absorbed, and infatuated with
the opposite sex. Girl crazy(Male) Boy crazy(female) The polar
opposite of a flaming homosexual. Usually a metrosexual straight man
with enough money and idle time to prance around tropical islands and
small countries chasing women and any other desires. A more torqued up
version of a ladies man.
What a flaming heterosexual, he's got a different girl everyday of the
week
George Clooney single in a cocaine psychosis
*******************
So which definition fits what you claim to be?
(( smirks))
Let's see, you can be either a close queen pretending to be straight
or a walking erection with no class like Jimmy Swaggart.
BWAHAHAHAH!!'
It's YOUR definition of yourself Kennie!
Kent Wills
wrote:
>> If you NEED it to be, I suppose. But NOT necessarily. Some gay men are
>> "fairies" but only a SMALL percent. Some heterosexual men are "fairies"
>> but
>> only a small percent. What ate YOU looking for Maureen? Are you AFRAID of
>> homosexuals? I'm not.
>
>MOE> Because you yourself ARE a homosexual.
>
>
> Another BITCHY "FACT" claim from Maureen McAllister.
You've offered the PROOF yourself, Ken.
You even claimed that David Moore is your gay lover (see sig).
>A rather funny one
>considering I have been married to three WOMEN and have FOUR CHILDREN.
Many gay men will marry women for the purpose of hiding their true
sexual orientation. The marriages don't last, of course.
Not that a divorce is proof of either party being gay.
Heterosexuals get divorced a great deal.
>Married to my late first wife for 6 years, my second wife for 22 years, and
>my present wife now for 5 years (almost 6). Maureen - IF I was gay - I'd
>not be a closet dweller, I'd admit it.
You have, in a way. You've not been completely open about it, but
your constant NEED to express your interest in homosexual imagery is
as close to being open as you dare.
Then there's your FACT CLAIM that David Moore is your gay lover
(see sig).
You're so unfamiliar with vaginas that you actually believe urine
flows from it.
And your constant expression that you find the vagina so horrible
that you use a slang term for it as an insult.
If you're not gay, you certainly want the readers to believe you
are.
>Your problem is that I am a flaming
>HETEROSEXUAL. I was quite the sporting man in my single years.
Uh huh.
If only there were a way you could prove it. Short of time
travel, which I don't think is possible, I don't know how you could
prove the claim. This means any rational person will question it.
>I like women.
>I like brunettes. (My mom was a brunette)
EW! EW! EW!
That you have an Oedipus complex is NONE of our business!
>I am also a highly unrepentant
>"leg man." All 3 of my wives had GREAT legs, although I think my Cubana has
>the best legs of the bunch. I have dated some hot women in my time including
>a Miss America.
Bwahahahahaha!
If that is true, you'll certainly have some means to prove it.
Heck, a picture of you and a former Miss America together, while not
absolute proof, would help to support your claim.
>Yes, Maureen, in my lifetime I have had intimate relations
>with lots of gringas,
Uh huh.
Given how you consistently PROVE you HATE foreigners, I question
your claim.
>and some women of color. Including my first wife that
>was mainly Native American, a Jewish woman (engaged to her, my High School
>sweetheart) Asian, African and some Latinas thrown in. Now, Maureen, as I
>told you, I prefer Latin women, not just for their beauty, but their
>independence and passion. I find Latin women by far the MOST attractive
>women there are.
On this Pangborn and I are in agreement. Latinas, for the most
part, are very beautiful. There are some token uglies, but they are
few and far between.
>
> I respect the gays in the world, partially because they are usually
>smarter than the average bear, extremely talented, and genuinely nice
>people. They don't scare me, Maureen, I have had gay neighbors several times
>in my lifetime. They were great neighbors and friends. I have worked with
>gay men and women. I must admit, Maureen, that I feel MUCH MORE comfortable
>in their company than I do an UPTIGHT BITCH like you. The idea of gays being
>married doesn't make me feel threatened.
>
Given that you consistently PROVE you're gay, you shouldn't be
threatened by same sex marriage.
> I know how you feel about my marriage, Maureen you've said it enough
>times in enough different ways. You think I have a Latin wife because they
>are "submissive."
Moe made no such claim.
Prove she has, unless you're lying.
>Your pal Moore says the same thing.
I've seen no such claim from David.
Prove he has, unless you're lying.
>But, you know,
>Maureen, anyone who says that is ignorant of Latin women.
That may be why all available evidence shows your LYING about
either Moe or David making the claim.
>Latin women are
>independent as hell, and don't take shit from anyone. Does the name Lorena
>Bobbitt mean anything to you? A man who beats on a Latina is likely to wake
>up with his severed balls in his mouth. It's a nice PLOY by people like you,
>so DESPERATE to try to create something with which to disparage me,
>probably because you need so badly to feel better about yourselves.
Your the one presenting Moe made a claim she's not made (prove
she did so, or have another drunken lie exposed). The same with
David.
Kent Wills
LOL!
Spanking Kenny
> DIPPY DAVEY MOORE
> "Spanking Kenny" <kennyis...@none.invalid> wrote in message
> news:hhiiq0$1qa$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>
> > I tell you it was one of the funniest things I've ever seen done
> > to you. There you were puffing your chest out daring someone to
> > meet you in person. That someone jumped all over your empty words
> > like they actually weren't repulsed by the mere thought of spending
> > time in your company. And of course your response was instantly
> > pissing all over yourself and pulling every desperation move your
> > little mind could come up with to weasel out of the deal.
>
> I didn't run the FAIRY did by suggesting a place miles away, I offered
The fact that you're so confident in your own words you're
compelled to inject childish sexuality slanders is self
explanatory, and defines your diatribe as something that really
doesn't need dismantling, but....
You're a liar. Mr. Bloss offered to meet you at any public place of
your choosing, with two days notice.
http://groups.google.com/group/fl.general/msg/cd87418b36c81176?dmode=source
"I live in Winter Haven. More than happy to foot the fuel bill, but
I need a couple days to schedule it. We'll agree on a time/place
right here in public, and I'm *there* brother."
You refused to name a place Kenny. Tried demanding that it be at
your home, and when Mr. Bloss said he'd have to include law
enforcement in that sort of meeting you tried to make him out
as afraid of you rather than trying to agree on a day. You pulled
all your usual childish crap for a couple days, and then claimed the
"clock ran out". It's all right there, archived for prosperity at
Google...
http://groups.google.com/group/fl.general/browse_frm/thread/48606befd11c8054/ccb85bb659551e0d
The part where you made the challenge and then weasel-danced out of
it starts a little over half way down the thread I think. The rest
of it is Mr. Bloss, and everyone else, as usual, kicking you all
over Usenet. Not a bad read at all.
And for the record Kenny I'm not "Davey" either. So you can give up
the lame attempt to make it look like there's only one person
in the world who despises the way you act online. If anyone doubts
this identity issue, it's an easy thing to refer to message
headers. Specifically the account and injection information. It's
"encoded", but I believe unique.
Kent Wills
<fvr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
[...]
>> MOE> Because you yourself ARE a homosexual.
>>
>> Another BITCHY "FACT" claim from Maureen McAllister. A rather funny one
>> considering I have been married to three WOMEN and have FOUR CHILDREN.
>
>
> There's no reason why gay males can't marry females and " father"
>children" It makes a good cover.
Years ago I was a regular of the Real World newsgroup (yes, I used
to watch The Real World). Another regular was named Ml (pronounced
Mel). He was, and probably is, openly gay. He fathered a child.
I don't recall his ever claiming he was married to the woman.
Married or not, he was gay and he fathered a child.
>
>> Married to my late first wife for 6 years, my second wife for 22 years, and
>> my present wife now for 5 years (almost 6). Maureen - IF I was gay - I'd
>> not be a closet dweller, I'd admit it. =A0Your problem is that I am a fla>ming
>> HETEROSEXUAL
>
> " Flaming heterosexual?" What's that? Highly macho macho man with
>hair on your chest and guzzling beer while watching football and
>treating your wife like a slave?
That would be consistent with the persona Pangborn presents
on-line.
>
> Too much testosterone type of " flaming heterosexual"? You do, know,
>don't you that males who have high amounts of testosterone are often
>abusers and rapists, don't you?
And they try to hide their baldness with a terrible looking comb
over.
>
> " Flaming heterosexual" sounds like a disease.
>
> Are you SURE you didn't mean to type " Flaming HEMMORHOIDS"?
> A guy of your advanced age would have many ailments.
EW!
>
>
>>. I was quite the sporting man in my single years. I like women.
>> I like brunettes. (My mom was a brunette)
>
> Oh, mom-fukking.
Ken has a Oedipus complex. I wish he would have kept that to
himself. Some aspects of his private life should remain private.
>
> And I doubt you were a babe magnet when you were young. You act like
>you had to beg to get laid. And when on the rare occasion you did get
>a female to be with you, you had premature launches, so to speak.
YIKES!
>
>
>> I am also a highly unrepentant
>> "leg man." All 3 of my wives had GREAT legs, although I think my Cubana has
>> the best legs of the bunch.
>
>How about them as PEOPLE Kennie? You know as INDIVIDUALS, not as
>alleged heterosexual objects.
In Ken's mind, women are objects.
>
> BTW gay males sometimes have really nice legs, particularly when they
>dress up in drag.
>
>:-D
>
Erm... :)
>
> >I have dated some hot women in my time including
>> a Miss America.
>
>(( Rolls eyes))
>
> Yeah right, and you were Hugh Hefner's best buddy.
>
>
> Yes, Maureen, in my lifetime I have had intimate relations
>> with lots of gringas, and some women of color. Including my first wife that
>> was mainly Native American, a Jewish woman (engaged to her, my High School
>> sweetheart) Asian, African and some Latinas thrown in.
>
> So much for true loves, right Kennie? And so much for keeping it in
>your pants to save for those you really care for.
That's actually typical of males.
We're pigs during puberty. There is no way to honestly deny
this. A major motivating force for males is sex. This is especially
true during puberty.
This certainly was the case with me (if only I could have gotten
some women to allow me to realize my motivation before one did).
And males of that age will often LIE about their conquests.
Since there will be no way for Ken to prove or disprove his
claims, he presents them as fact.
>
> (( ROlls eyes)) Kennie, seriously if you think I'm gonna believe your
>grandiose claims, you must think I'm gullible.
>
> You do realize that your bragging looks a lot those BS liars who
>think they are such studs?
>
>" I bagged a Miss America."
> " I did an Indian AND a Jew at the same time."
>" They all lusted after me!"
>
> Sheesh!! You are such a liar.
If he was romantically involved with a former Miss America, he'll
be able to prove it. Probably not the sex, but he should be able to
offer something to show they were romantically involved.
>
>
>>Now, Maureen, as I
>> told you, I prefer Latin women, not just for their beauty, but their
>> independence and passion. I find Latin women by far the MOST attractive
>> women there are.
>>
>> I respect the gays in the world, partially because they are usually
>> smarter than the average bear, extremely talented, and genuinely nice
>> people. They don't scare me, Maureen,
>
> Because you are secretly gay yourself.
He's not so secret about it.
>
>
>> I have had gay neighbors several times
>> in my lifetime. They were great neighbors and friends.
>
> And no doubt buddies in bed right Kennie?
> Having a GAY OLD TIME in the neighborhood?
>
>(( laughing))
UGH!
Ya know, *I'M* the one who does that bad jokes. And I don't need
the competition! :)
>
>
>> I have worked with
>> gay men and women. I must admit, Maureen, that I feel MUCH MORE comfortable
>> in their company than I do an UPTIGHT BITCH like you
>
> Uptight? Me?
>ROTFLOL!!
You're a woman. He's not as comfortable around a woman as he is
with gay men.
That's fairly telling on Ken's part.
>
>Just because I don't see YOU as sexually attractive that makes me an "
>uptight bitch"?
Given Ken's MASSIVE girth, few would find him attractive.
There are women how find obsess men attractive. I'm certain
Lindsay was one such woman. Given that I was almost as fat as Ken is
now, she must have been.
Fortunately, her love did leave when I lost all the weight.
There are probably gay men who find obese males attractive. If
so, Ken at least has a chance. At least until his paranoia forces him
to think the guy is a part of the MASSIVE COALITION FORCE (emphasis
Pangborn's).
>
> And me liking Tom Welling and all.....
>
>MMMMMMMM!! Tom has a nice ass.....
I've never actually checked.
I did, and do, think Alison Mack was, and is, attractive. I've
not paid close attention to her rear though.
>
>(( Ahem)) So what were you saying about me being an " uptight
>bitch"....?
BURN!
>
>>. The idea of gays being
>> married doesn't make me feel threatened.
>
> After all its an option for you if Barbara wises up and dumps your
>ass.
Not for Ken.
Men who are getting divorced will, more often than not, be
heterosexual. They'll want a trial consultant who can better relate
to their situation.
Any gay men who are getting divorced may hire Pangborn, since he
will know what it's like. I don't have any statistics to quote, but
I'm sure there aren't too many of them.
>
>>
>> I know how you feel about my marriage, Maureen you've said it enough
>> times in enough different ways.
>
> I feel sorry for any woman who marries a piece of shit like you.
>
Barbara was desperate to leave Cuba. According to Ken, most of
the people there are.
While her method is morally questionable, she was able to find a
means to leave that was, and is, preferable to a home made raft.
>
>>You think I have a Latin wife because they
>> are "submissive."
>
> Liar. I never said that.
Let's see if he'll prove that you did, or admit it was another of
his drunken pathological lies.
>
>>Your pal Moore says the same thing. But, you know,
>> Maureen, anyone who says that is ignorant of Latin women. Latin women are
>> independent as hell, and don't take shit from anyone
>
> Unless they are beaten into submission. Latin women are like any
>other women Kennie and you damn well know it. Some are dominant and
>opinionated, some are submissive. BTW the assumption is that Barbara
>is heterosexual. It would be a good cover for BOTH of you of you both
>were actually gay.
>
> What, there are no Lesbian Latinas?
I hadn't considered that.
It is, of course, possible. There is nothing to suggest she is a
lesbian, but there is nothing that rules it out either.
The matter will, in all probability, remain a mystery.
>
>(( Giggling))
>
> Oh, that reminds me. When YOU post as " giggling" that sounds odd for
>a supposedly straight man to describe his amusement.
>
>
>>. Does the name Lorena
>> Bobbitt mean anything to you?
>
>Yup, Rapist abusive hubby, she chopped his little dick off, he got it
>sewn back on and started in some dumb porno with it.
>
> Are you implying your wife might cut off your teenie weenie?
From what I've read, if he had a inch cut off, there would be a
scab on his ass. :-)
>
> Not that you haven't actually SEEN it for two decades , considering
>your girth.
>
Unless he's so massive that he could make John Holmes look tiny,
he's had dickiedoo for a LONG time.
>
>>A man who beats on a Latina is likely to wake
>> up with his severed balls in his mouth. It's a nice PLOY by people like y>ou,
>> so DESPERATE to try to create something with which to disparage me,
>> probably because you need so badly to feel better about yourselves.
>
> Kennie if I wanted to feel better about myself, I could do volunteer
>work or donate to the food pantry or something.
I can't envision Ken doing such a thing.
>
> Dissing your sorry ass is just an amusement.
Ken spends so much of his life on Usenet, he confuses it with
reality. To be able to come to some sort of terms with this, he
believes everyone else does so as well.
"I am insane!"
--Kenneth Robert Pangborn, of KRP Consulting and The A-team,
posting to alt.dads-rights.unmoderated claiming that he was found
legally insane.
N4469P
>> I didn't run the FAIRY did by suggesting a place miles away, I offered
>
> The fact that you're so confident in your own words you're
> compelled to inject childish sexuality slanders is self
> explanatory, and defines your diatribe as something that really
> doesn't need dismantling, but....
>
> You're a liar. Mr. Bloss offered to meet you at any public place of
> your choosing, with two days notice.
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/fl.general/msg/cd87418b36c81176?dmode=source
>
> "I live in Winter Haven. More than happy to foot the fuel bill, but
> I need a couple days to schedule it. We'll agree on a time/place
> right here in public, and I'm *there* brother."
>
> You refused to name a place Kenny. Tried demanding that it be at
> your home, and when Mr. Bloss said he'd have to include law
> enforcement in that sort of meeting you tried to make him out
> as afraid of you rather than trying to agree on a day. You pulled
> all your usual childish crap for a couple days, and then claimed the
> "clock ran out". It's all right there, archived for prosperity at
> Google...
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/fl.general/browse_frm/thread/48606befd11c8054/ccb85bb659551e0d
that bloss guy he sure is a dude.
krp
"Spanking Kenny" <kennyis...@none.invalid> wrote in message
>>
>> > I tell you it was one of the funniest things I've ever seen done
>> > to you. There you were puffing your chest out daring someone to
>> > meet you in person. That someone jumped all over your empty words
>> > like they actually weren't repulsed by the mere thought of spending
>> > time in your company. And of course your response was instantly
>> > pissing all over yourself and pulling every desperation move your
>> > little mind could come up with to weasel out of the deal.
>>
>> I didn't run the FAIRY did by suggesting a place miles away, I
>> offered
>
> The fact that you're so confident in your own words you're
> compelled to inject childish sexuality slanders is self
> explanatory, and defines your diatribe as something that really
> doesn't need dismantling, but....
>
> You're a liar. Mr. Bloss offered to meet you at any public place of
> your choosing, with two days notice.
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/fl.general/msg/cd87418b36c81176?dmode=source
>
> "I live in Winter Haven. More than happy to foot the fuel bill, but
> I need a couple days to schedule it. We'll agree on a time/place
> right here in public, and I'm *there* brother."
I named the place. He refused.
krp
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=flaming+heterosexual
I'll take door number 2 when I was young and single.
Spanking Kenny
> > You're a liar. Mr. Bloss offered to meet you at any public place of
> > your choosing, with two days notice.
> >
> > http://groups.google.com/group/fl.general/msg/cd87418b36c81176?dmode=source
> >
> > "I live in Winter Haven. More than happy to foot the fuel bill, but
> > I need a couple days to schedule it. We'll agree on a time/place
> > right here in public, and I'm *there* brother."
>
>
> I named the place. He refused.
Nope! Anyone who reads through the thread will quickly see that
you're a liar. Mr. Bloss repeatedly asked you to post ONE actual
message that clearly stated your intent, and you caved. You could
have ended your years long quibble with multiple antagonists by
typing simple words like "sure, stop over to my place next Tuesday
around 5PM" but you just didn't have the guts to follow up on your
own challenge.
That wasn't the only lie Mr. Bloss busted you in in that thread
either. You also tried to lie your way out of not being able to send
mail from accounts you've lost by claiming his email address was
fake, in spite of the fact that you managed to send Mr. Bloss
other emails just fine.
Again, the thread is right there on Google. Anyone can verify
everything I'm saying, and you can't do anything to stop that. The
fact that you're a sociopathic liar has been well established and
well documented. And that will NEVER go away, no matter how many
times you wretch up your sapless denials.
N4469P
You're Bloss?
N4469P
that Bloss guy is THE MAN
Kent Wills
"krp" <kr...@tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
news:4b3e7d05$0$4971$9a6e...@unlimited.newshosting.com...
[...]
>>
>> Know your scum---http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com
>
> BTW Kennie, maybe you should have looked up the term " flaming
> heterosexual" before you called yourself one.
>
> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=flaming+heterosexual
>
>
>
> I'll take door number 2 when I was young and single.
First, I'm AMAZED that you allowed the URL for David's TRUTH site to
remain. Typically you edit it in hopes that no one will visit and learn the
truth about you.
Second, why are you posting Moe's words as if they are yours?
You can't claim it's due to Windows Mail. I'm using WM for this post,
and it included the ">" attribution mark by default.
The Kenneth Robert Pangborn TRUTH site:
http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com
krp
"Spanking Kenny" <kennyis...@none.invalid> wrote in message
> krp wrote:
>
>> > You're a liar. Mr. Bloss offered to meet you at any public place of
>> > your choosing, with two days notice.
>> >
>> > http://groups.google.com/group/fl.general/msg/cd87418b36c81176?dmode=source
>> >
>> > "I live in Winter Haven. More than happy to foot the fuel bill, but
>> > I need a couple days to schedule it. We'll agree on a time/place
>> > right here in public, and I'm *there* brother."
>>
>>
>> I named the place. He refused.
>
> Nope! Anyone who reads through the thread will quickly see that
> you're a liar. Mr. Bloss repeatedly asked you to post ONE actual
> message that clearly stated your intent, and you caved. You could
> have ended your years long quibble with multiple antagonists by
> typing simple words like "sure, stop over to my place next Tuesday
> around 5PM" but you just didn't have the guts to follow up on your
> own challenge.
I said I would meet him at my place, just name the day and time.
Kent Wills
wrote:
Pangborn is constantly doing that sort of thing. He'll issue a
challenge, expecting it to be ignored. When it's not, he does all he
can to avoid honoring his word.
The matter with Jeffery Bloss is one example. Another occurred
more recently.
Pangborn gave his word that he would make the proof he claims to
have that David Moore was adopted available if David would state from
where he got the list of names. David openly and freely admitted he
got the names from Barbara's Facebook page. Ken confirmed this is the
only place from where he could have gotten the names.
Ken has yet to make any proof of any adoption available. He even
when so far as to LIE and claim he didn't state he would do so. He
LIED and claimed he would only name his source. Of course he's not
done that either.
Pangborn is UNABLE to meet any challenge he offers in regards to
David Moore because every claim Ken has ever made about David is a lie
as PROVED by Ken's inability to offer the proof when he says he will.
"Kent is NOT Kent."
-- Kenneth Robert Pangborn, of KRP CONsulting, acknowledging that
my name in real life is not Kent. Checking the MID will show he's
getting tired of explaining this to people.
Message-ID: <4b3b32c0$0$4973$9a6e...@unlimited.newshosting.com>
N4469P
If i, er, *HE* ever met upo with tha pedofukk, it wood have been the end
of times <no winkers>
Society
Oh, so another feminazi has run out of honest things to say, eh?
As an online discussion
on the topic of human sexuality
grows longer, the probability
that someone will impugn
a male opponent's manhood
approaches one. --LaSalle's Law
Mike LaSalle at _Men's News Daily_
March 6, 2007
<http://mensnewsdaily.com/2007/03/06/the-womans-real-man-pt-2/#comment-33793>
I especially laughed when your feminist stalker disrespected
Latin women, Ken. Even more than they hate real men,
feminists _really_ resent real women.
--
Feminism was established as to allow
unattractive women easier access
to the mainstream of society.
#24 in Rush Limbaugh's "35 Undeniable Truths"
http://www.kfi640.com/usguys/rush.html
Kent Wills
<Soc...@feminism.is.invalid> wrote:
>
>Oh, so another feminazi has run out of honest things to say, eh?
Pangborn isn't a feminazi. He's many things, but a feminazi isn't
one of them.
I can understand your desire to help expose him for the lying con
man he is, but it's best to stick with those things that Ken actually
is.
>
> As an online discussion
> on the topic of human sexuality
> grows longer, the probability
> that someone will impugn
> a male opponent's manhood
> approaches one. --LaSalle's Law
>
> Mike LaSalle at _Men's News Daily_
> March 6, 2007
> <http://mensnewsdaily.com/2007/03/06/the-womans-real-man-pt-2/#comment-33793>
>
>I especially laughed when your feminist stalker disrespected
>Latin women, Ken.
That is KEN'S disrespect.
Depending on whether Ken wants his extreme bigotry being
discussed or not, Barbara's heritage will change.
If you're not yet aware, feel free to check the Kenneth Robert
Pangborn TRUTH site page that PROVES Pangborn's bigotry:
http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com/race.html
The proof consists of Ken's own writings.
I recommend visiting the rest of the TRUTH site. It does a great
job of exposing Kenneth Robert Pangborn for the fraud and con man he
is.
>Even more than they hate real men,
>feminists _really_ resent real women.
I see why you think Pangborn is a feminazi. He does HATE women.
The link TRUTH site offers PROOF, consisting of Pangborn's own
writings, that he HATES women. Links to Ken's posts on Google are
included, though Ken claims David Moore can, and does, edit the posts
archived on Google. See the MID in the sig if you'd like to verify my
claim.
"you are reading Moore's SELECTIVE material that is HIGHLY edited."
-- Kenneth Robert Pangborn, alcoholic (according to him)
owner/operator of KRP CONsulting and The A-Team claiming in misc.legal
that David Moore can and does edit Google's Usenet archive.
Message-ID: <n9Sfm.1372$nh2...@nwrddc02.gnilink.net>
krp
"Society" <Soc...@feminism.is.invalid> wrote in message
news:N__%m.428$Mv3...@newsfe05.iad...
> Oh, so another feminazi has run out of honest things to say, eh?
Aren't you shocked? I am!
> As an online discussion
> on the topic of human sexuality
> grows longer, the probability
> that someone will impugn
> a male opponent's manhood
> approaches one. --LaSalle's Law
>
> Mike LaSalle at _Men's News Daily_
> March 6, 2007
>
> <http://mensnewsdaily.com/2007/03/06/the-womans-real-man-pt-2/#comment-33793>
> I especially laughed when your feminist stalker disrespected
> Latin women, Ken. Even more than they hate real men,
> feminists _really_ resent real women.
What's funny is the allegations that Latin women are "submissive" not to
mention weak minded. Actually the big difference is besides being gorgeous,
Latin women are fiercely independent, oh make no mistake they make excellent
companions. They are just NOT little wilting violets who accept abuse. I
remind the new reader of Lorena Bobbitt. The Latin woman won't tolerate
being disrespected or treated like a slave. Men looking for a doormat would
be better off sticking with American women. I have dated Latin women several
times in my single days, I have been attracted to them because they are
beautiful, and the relationships are of the "no-bullshit" variety. They are
really STRONG WOMEN and don't sit around whining all day feeling sorry for
themselves. They don't have to compete with men or be bitter at us. I've
been married to my Cuban wife for over 5 years, known her for almost 7. Oh
she can be frustrating at times, she really stakes out her territory. There
is NO way she will be a "dependent." She had her own job, her own car, and
her own interests. She has an undergrad degree in botany. Our house that we
bought a year ago had NO landscaping. Now it is pretty much a jungle. We've
added 5 trees to the front of the property and an equal number to the rear.
That's significant in that the land here is maybe one third of what we had
at the old house. She also has a ton of plants inside the house. I also
appreciate the "passionate" nature of the Latin woman. When she loves you,
you REALLY know it. Of course what doesn't hurt - with my wife having a
great body, is that she is a great dancer. When she starts moving to Latin
music my heart stops as her booty moves. There is something about Cuban
women (and other Latinas) and the way they move when dancing. Most Latinas I
know are "glass half full" types. Maybe that's accentuated with Cuban women
because they are grateful for what they have since in Cuba they had nothing.
I also love how my wife can be a "little girl" at times. The other day in
the grocery she spotted a half off table with this cute soft teddy bear. She
picked it up and started hugging it like a little girl. I bought it for her.
Seeing her smiles made it well worth it. You see, as these "WITCHES" are,
they CANNOT allow themselves to be like that. They have to sneer at a woman
who can do that. They have to find some way to put them down. It's simple,
really, the difference between women like my wife (Latina) and women like
Ms. McAllister is that women like my wife are happy, and women like Maureen
will NEVER know the joy my wife does.
krp
"Kent Wills" <comp...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:qv01k5hvnon54b7k1...@4ax.com...
> That is KEN'S disrespect. Depending on whether Ken wants his extreme
> bigotry being
> discussed or not, Barbara's heritage will change.
Not at all Tiinkerbell, except in your deranged claims. I have never
changed my
wife's heritage. She is from Cuba. Her ancestry is SPANISH on both side of
her family. The heritage traces back from Cuba to the Canary Islands and
then to Spain. She is Caucasian, however YOU and Moore try claiming she is
not that she is "brown skinned." She isn't. It's the ignorance of Moore and
YOU who believe that ALL Latin people are "brown." That isn't true at all.
In Cuba there are Caucasians, there are those of African heritage, there
are Asians, and then there are many MIXED race people. Cuba however was an
island that really never had a significant aboriginal people. The few that
were were largely exterminated by the Spanish. Some of the women were used
for "recreational" purposes by the Spanish military. YOU and Moore demand
she is BROWN skinned like many Mexican people, and persons in central and
South America. She isn't. She's lighter skinned that I am. She has brown
hair
and eyes. So do I, or I used to before the grey took over YOU can to apply
your
racist bullshit to it. In your TINY mind a woman CANNOT be Latina and WHITE.
So
when you claim I have changed I have never "changed" my statements about my
wife's heritage. As close as we can, we would say her heritage is of
Castilian Spanish origin. Which is Causcasian.
Any thing there you care to DISPUTTE, Wills? Since you think of yourself
as the world's greatest expert of all time on everything. Wills I doubt you
can
understand any of that. You live on your own planet in an alternate
universe with an
orange sky in which you are the intellectual giant. Therefore your mind
creates its own reality.
Greegor
Moe is a 50 year old misfit who lives in her Daddy Frank's
house in Dardanelle Arkansas. She can't get a date
with either gender.
Her Daddy's not pagan is he, Moe?
Must've been a really wierd Christmas! LOL
Kent Wills
wrote:
> "Kent Wills" <comp...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:qv01k5hvnon54b7k1...@4ax.com...
>
>> That is KEN'S disrespect. Depending on whether Ken wants his extreme
>> bigotry being
>> discussed or not, Barbara's heritage will change.
>
> Not at all Tiinkerbell, except in your deranged claims. I have never
>changed my
>wife's heritage.
Sometimes she's of European heritage, sometimes of Hispanic
heritage.
Depending on the point you want to make, it changes between the
two.
>She is from Cuba. Her ancestry is SPANISH on both side of
>her family. The heritage traces back from Cuba to the Canary Islands and
>then to Spain. She is Caucasian,
Most Hispanics are.
>however YOU and Moore try claiming she is
>not that she is "brown skinned."
You've already admitted your claim was and is a lie.
>She isn't. It's the ignorance of Moore and
>YOU who believe that ALL Latin people are "brown."
You alone see that delusional claim.
>That isn't true at all.
>In Cuba there are Caucasians, there are those of African heritage, there
> are Asians, and then there are many MIXED race people. Cuba however was an
>island that really never had a significant aboriginal people.
Whereas it's so far away from Australia, DUH!
>The few that
>were were largely exterminated by the Spanish. Some of the women were used
>for "recreational" purposes by the Spanish military. YOU and Moore demand
>she is BROWN skinned
Post the MID and/or Google link to one such post from either of us
making that claim. Just one is all I ask.
Do keep in mind that neither David nor I am LIT. And LIT is the
ONLY person to claim Barbara is dark skinned.
>like many Mexican people, and persons in central and
>South America. She isn't. She's lighter skinned that I am. She has brown
>hair
>and eyes. So do I, or I used to before the grey took over YOU can to apply
>your racist bullshit to it.
Could you write that sentence in English, please?
>In your TINY mind a woman CANNOT be Latina and WHITE.
I've made no such claim.
>So
> when you claim I have changed I have never "changed" my statements about my
> wife's heritage.
You do so twice in the post to which I am replying.
>As close as we can, we would say her heritage is of
> Castilian Spanish origin. Which is Causcasian.
>
>Any thing there you care to DISPUTTE, Wills? Since you think of yourself
> as the world's greatest expert of all time on everything.
Outside of your latest PROOF that you only post while drunk, I
think no such thing.
>Wills I doubt you can
>understand any of that. You live on your own planet in an alternate
>universe with an
>orange sky in which you are the intellectual giant. Therefore your mind
>creates its own reality.
If your claim is true, please tell the readers how it feels to be
PROVED a fraud, liar and con man by someone who holds such a view.
I'm waiting...
"(CONTEXT REMOVED AS TO THE BELOW CLAIM)"
-- Kenneth Robert Pangborn, alcoholic (according to him)
owner/operator of KRP CONsulting and The A-Team accidentally admitting
he alters the context of posts when he replies.
MID FyUom.1363$Jd7....@nwrddc02.gnilink.net
womanGoddess
> "Society" <Soci...@feminism.is.invalid> wrote in message
>
> news:N__%m.428$Mv3...@newsfe05.iad...
>
> > Oh, so another feminazi has run out of honest things to say, eh?
>
> Aren't you shocked? I am!
>
> > As an online discussion
> > on the topic of human sexuality
> > grows longer, the probability
> > that someone will impugn
> > a male opponent's manhood
> > approaches one. --LaSalle's Law
>
> > Mike LaSalle at _Men's News Daily_
> > March 6, 2007
>
Then let her speak for herself Kennie. Your words claiming what she
thinks are not credible considering how you lie so much.
Greegor
womanGoddess
> Tell me about your pagan Christmas in your Daddy's house, Moe!
How can I have one if my father is dead Greg?
womanGoddess
(( Puzzled)) Pronoun usage is awkward. Who is the "her" if you are
sypposedly talking to me?
>
> Must've been a really wierd Christmas! LOL
How can I spend Christmas and live with my father if my father is
dead?
Kent Wills
<fvr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>On Jan 3, 3:22�pm, Greegor <greego...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Tell me about your pagan Christmas in your Daddy's house, Moe!
>
> How can I have one if my father is dead Greg?
>
Seems the illegal drugs Greg admits he uses and abuses has caused
him to forget how he posted a link about your dad passing away and
your inheriting the estate.
If only Greg would cease using and abusing illegal drugs (unless
he lied when he admitted he did and does so), he may well be able to
remember what he's posted.
A select number of items that really are about Gregory Scott "Piggly
Wiggly" Hanson (either directly or through the same standards he
DEMANDS be held to others):
Title: ST VS GREGORY HANSON
(DOB 05/22/1959)
CRIMINAL COMPLAINT 04/10/1996
Comments: CT 1 OWI 1ST
OTHER CITATION 04/10/1996
Comments: CT 2 SPEED
Disposition Status
GUILTY PLEA/DEFAULT
"That's the chick, but not the pic, zipperhead!"
Greg "Piggly Wiggly" Hanson proving his bigotry towards Asians, by
attacking my first wife (deceased).
http://www.rsdb.org/search?q=zipperhead
Me: "I suspect your stalking is due to the use and abuse of illegal
drugs, Greg. Is the reason for your stalking the members of
alt.friends due to the use and abuse of illegal drugs?
Gregory Scott "Piggly Wiggly" Hanson, wife beater and child abuser:
"Of course."
"My family's case is for Neglect, but we are treated
in virtually every regard as child abusers, marked on
the Child Abuse registry, for example."
-- Gregory Scott "Piggly Wiggly" Hanson, wife beater and child
abuser
" ... But there ought to be conferences and studies on how to curb
minority overpopulation, repatriate minorities abroad, imprison more
minorities, increase use of the death penalty and divest minorities of
the power they have usurped over us in recent years. That would
address the most pressing problems of our day. ... "
April 2000, Gregory "Piggly Wiggly" Hanson
http://www.nationalist.org/ATW/2000/040101.html#Hanson
Path:
news.datemas.de!newsfeed.datemas.de!goblin1!goblin.stu.neva.ru!postnews.google.com!y21g2000yqn.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail
From: Greegor <gree...@gmail.com>
Newsgroups:
misc.kids,alt.support.foster-parents,uk.people.parents,alt.support.child-protective-services
With the Christmas season upon us again, my stepdaughter was launching
into her usual tirade of "I need this" (Nintendo 64 games, Pokemon,
videos, Rhianna CD, etc.) After enduring a trip through Kmart, I
was at my wits end. I took the kid home and filled the bathtub with
water. Then I dunked the brat's head under the water and counted out
a full minute, with her flailing her arms. I brought her up and she
gasped for air. When she'd caught her breath, I asked her, "When you
were under that water, did you 'need' Nintendo? Pokemon? Rhianna?"
She shook her head. "What were you thinking about?" I
prodded. She told me "I was thinking that I needed air."
"Now you know the difference between 'need' and 'want'" I exclaimed
triumphantly.
--a true story
As of Sunday, Nov. 29, 2009:
Financials
Title: STATE OF IOWA VS HANSON, GREG SCOTT
Case: 06571 AGCR015216 (LINN)
Citation Number:
Summary Orig Paid Due
COSTS 9200.00 850.00 8350.00
FINE 500.00 500.00 0.00
SURCHARGE 150.00 150.00 0.00
RESTITUTION 0.00 0.00 0.00
OTHER 0.00 0.00 0.00
$9850.00 $1500.00 $8350.00
Yes, Gregory Scott "Piggly Wiggly" Hanson still owes over
$8000.00 related to his convictions for BEATING his ex-wife.
"I am now a "founded" child abuser for making a
7 year old take a fast cold shower."
-- Gregory Scot "Piggly Wiggly" Hanson bragging in MID
<cu6H6.14493$3c6.3...@news1.elmhst1.il.home.com>
In Message-ID:
<c7be6a38-8d1d-4c0a...@n38g2000yqf.googlegroups.com>
Gregory Scott "Piggly Wiggly" Hanson admitted that by his standards,
he RAPED his ex-wife. The same ex-wife he was twice convicted for
BEATING.
In Message-ID:
<8db2eada-0546-4c1a...@n38g2000yqf.googlegroups.com>
Gregory Scott "Piggly Wiggly" Hanson admits that his use and abuse of
illegal drugs forced him to LIE about the existence of certain
photographs.
Kent Wills
<fvr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
[...]
>> Moe is a 50 year old misfit who lives in her Daddy Frank's
>> house in Dardanelle Arkansas. She can't get a date
>> with either gender.
>>
>> Her Daddy's not pagan is he, Moe?
>
>(( Puzzled)) Pronoun usage is awkward. Who is the "her" if you are
>sypposedly talking to me?
>
I don't think Greg ever graduated high school. That he is
completely UNABLE understand the concept of grammar supports this.
>>
>> Must've been a really wierd Christmas! LOL
>
> How can I spend Christmas and live with my father if my father is
>dead?
Expect Greg to HIDE from this, or attempt to distract via the use
of deceptive innuendos.
Greegor
Moe > How can I have one if my father is dead Greg?
IF?
When did Frank McAllister 77 die?
Kent Wills
wrote:
>G > Tell me about your pagan Christmas in your Daddy's house, Moe!
>
>Moe > �How can I have one if my father is dead Greg?
>
>IF?
Learn English, Greg.
>
>When did Frank McAllister 77 die?
Why would Moe know about him?
Greegor
Moe > How can I have one if my father is dead Greg?
G > IF?
KBW > Learn English, Greg.
G > When did Frank McAllister 77 die?
KBW > Why would Moe know about him?
Moe's gotta love how you help her out, Kent! LOL
Kent Wills
wrote:
>G > Tell me about your pagan Christmas in your Daddy's house, Moe!
>
>Moe > How can I have one if my father is dead Greg?
>
>G > IF?
>
>KBW > Learn English, Greg.
Thank you, Greg, for the tactic admission, by your standards,
that you don't understand English. At least when written.
>
>G > When did Frank McAllister 77 die?
>
>KBW > Why would Moe know about him?
>
>Moe's gotta love how you help her out, Kent! LOL
If proving you the drug addled liar you were, are, and likely
will be benefits Moe, great. If not, no big deal. It's not like my
motivation is to help her. She has never shown a need for my help in
the past, so there is no reason to expect she needs it now.
Of course you will already know this, having tried much the same
LIE in regards to Dan.
If only you were psychologically able to be honest all the time,
rather than only by accident or force. Alas, the illegal drugs you
admit you use and abuse (see sig for the verbatim quote) make that
impossible for you. And this is truly sad.
--a true story
>
>
krp
>>> That is KEN'S disrespect. Depending on whether Ken wants his extreme
>>> bigotry being
>>> discussed or not, Barbara's heritage will change.
>>
>> Not at all Tiinkerbell, except in your deranged claims. I have never
>>changed my wife's heritage.
> Sometimes she's of European heritage, sometimes of Hispanic heritage.
> Depending on the point you want to make, it changes between the
> two.
I guess I keep forgetting I am dealing with a Polack. "Hispanic" is a
term to evryone whose native language is Spanish, Wills. It's not a race,
nor is it a nationality. They speak Spanish in Spain. What a wonder, huh?
Last time I checked Spain was in Europe NOT Asia. Maybe YOU ahve some
special Polack globe where it is part of Antarctica?
>>She is from Cuba. Her ancestry is SPANISH on both sides of
>>her family. The heritage traces back from Cuba to the Canary Islands and
>>then to Spain. She is Caucasian,
> Most Hispanics are.
Ummm, NO, Kunt they are't. The largest number of "Hispanic people"
(defined as Spanish speaking as a primary language) are in Latin America.
Caucasians are a minority in almost all of Latin America, AND if you weren't
so pig-ignorant, you'd know that even in parts of Spain Caucasians are in
the minority. The largest group of people in Latin America trace their
genetics to aboriginal peoples (Various Indian groups) Aztecs, Myans, etc.)
>>however YOU and Moore try claiming she is
>>not that she is "brown skinned."
> You've already admitted your claim was and is a lie.
Besides being stupid, Kunt, you're insane. You IMAGINE I did. It's those
voices in your head again.
>>She isn't. It's the ignorance of Moore and YOU who believe that ALL Latin
>>people are "brown."
> You alone see that delusional claim.
You have made the caim, NOT ME!
>>That isn't true at all. In Cuba there are Caucasians, there are those of
>>African heritage, there
>> are Asians, and then there are many MIXED race people. Cuba however was
>> an
>>island that really never had a significant aboriginal people.
> Whereas it's so far away from Australia, DUH!
Aboriginal people you STUPOID POLACK does NORGT refer only to
Austrailia.... (FUTILE attempt at education to follow)
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/aboriginal
Main Entry: 1ab·orig·i·nal
Pronunciation: \ˌa-bə-ˈrij-nəl, -ˈri-jə-nəl\
Function: adjective
Date: 1667
1 : being the first or earliest known of its kind present in a region
<aboriginal forests> <aboriginal rocks>
And in this case "ABORIGINAL PEOPLE."
>>The few that were were largely exterminated by the Spanish. Some of the
>>women were used
>>for "recreational" purposes by the Spanish military. YOU and Moore
>>demand
>>she is BROWN skinned
> Post the MID and/or Google link to one such post from either of us
> making that claim. Just one is all I ask.
> Do keep in mind that neither David nor I am LIT. And LIT is the
> ONLY person to claim Barbara is dark skinned.
Grated that LIT has said some off-the-wall things recently, don't try to
pin that on her.
>>like many Mexican people, and persons in central and
>>South America. She isn't. She's lighter skinned that I am. She has brown
>>hair
>>and eyes. So do I, or I used to, before the grey took over. YOU can try to
>>apply
>>your racist bullshit to it.
> Could you write that sentence in English, please?
Do you want it in Polack?
>>In your TINY mind a woman CANNOT be Latina and WHITE.
> I've made no such claim.
Nice to see you change your position on that.
>>So when you claim I have changed I have never "changed" my statements
>>about my
>> wife's heritage.
> You do so twice in the post to which I am replying.
You are Halllucinating again, Wills.
krp
On Jan 3, 3:22 pm, Greegor <greego...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Tell me about your pagan Christmas in your Daddy's house, Moe!
MOE> How can I have one if my father is dead Greg?
Did your daddy pass over the holidays, Maureen? My condolences. Just a
while ago you were quoting his responses to my posts. I am sorry for your
recent loss.
womanGoddess
Find it out yourself greg.
Enjoy the hunt!
womanGoddess
> G > Tell me about your pagan Christmas in your Daddy's house, Moe!
>
> Moe > How can I have one if my father is dead Greg?
>
> G > IF?
>
> KBW > Learn English, Greg.
>
> G > When did Frank McAllister 77 die?
>
> KBW > Why would Moe know about him?
I never heard of a name that had 77 as part of it. Yes tehre is II,
IV and so forth but not " 77".
If that is a secret agent number... (( shrugs))
>
> Moe's gotta love how you help her out, Kent! LOL
Kent can post whatever he wishes. I've been doing fine nailing Kennie
to the wall on his many lies, basically helping Moore discredit
Kennie.
But Kent really is as naughty boy for revealing my father's death.
Bad, bad Kent!!
(( laughing))
Moe
Eternal FOREVER KNIGHT fan
" A vampire cop? REALLY?"
"http://home.earthlink.net/~19ranger57/blies.htm
Know your scum--- http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com
>
> https://secure.public-records-now.com/Summary.asp?from=hys0353912977&...
>
> http://secure.public-records-now.com/summary.aspx?vw=people&input=nam...
>
> http://secure.public-records-now.com/summary.aspx?vw=people&input=nam...
womanGoddess
> "womanGoddess" <fvrn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
Your show of " sympathy" is hard to believe Kennie and you damn well
know why.
Greegor
MOE > How can I have one if my father is dead Greg?
KRP > Did your daddy pass over the holidays, Maureen?
KRP > My condolences. Just a while ago you were
KRP > quoting his responses to my posts. I am sorry
KRP > for your recent loss.
Moe > Your show of " sympathy" is hard to believe
Moe > Kennie and you damn well know why.
Oh Bitch Uary?
womanGoddess
Greg, Kennie dissed my father for MONTHS with his exaggerations
shit. And he does the " sympathy" act on hearing my father's passing?
I don't believe a damn word he posts Greg.
Had he added comments of regret of his attacks on my father, I would
have accepted his condolences as legit.
But Kennie is a liar. His pretense of actually being a human in the
post is so obviously fake that his little act is as shallow as he is.
I'll give him credit for one thing. He at least made the effort,
phony as it is. Something you never would do. Which makes him a
slightly better person than you are greg.
Kent Wills
wrote:
>
>"Kent Wills" <comp...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:ou02k5tothvb3phr3...@4ax.com...
>
>>>> That is KEN'S disrespect. Depending on whether Ken wants his extreme
>>>> bigotry being
>>>> discussed or not, Barbara's heritage will change.
>>>
>>> Not at all Tiinkerbell, except in your deranged claims. I have never
>>>changed my wife's heritage.
>
>> Sometimes she's of European heritage, sometimes of Hispanic heritage.
>> Depending on the point you want to make, it changes between the
>> two.
>
> I guess I keep forgetting I am dealing with a Polack.
Are you still trying to make your daddy proud of you? If not,
please explain the reason(s) you are so compelled to PROVE you are the
bigot you are.
>"Hispanic" is a
>term to evryone whose native language is Spanish, Wills.
Liar. While most Hispanics will speak Spanish, in one form or
another, not all do.
Lindsay is Hispanic, yet speaks very little Spanish.
You make it far too easy to prove your drunken pathological lies,
Ken.
>It's not a race,
>nor is it a nationality. They speak Spanish in Spain. What a wonder, huh?
They speak Castiliano in most of Spain. Although I did hear some
Catalan Spanish when I visited the country.
Anyone with a valid college degree would understand the
difference between Castiliano and Espa�ol. That this escapes you is
to be expected.
>Last time I checked Spain was in Europe NOT Asia. Maybe YOU ahve some
>special Polack globe where it is part of Antarctica?
Have I ever present such a possibility, outside of your continued
PROOF that you only post when you're drunk?
>
>>>She is from Cuba. Her ancestry is SPANISH on both sides of
>>>her family. The heritage traces back from Cuba to the Canary Islands and
>>>then to Spain. She is Caucasian,
>
>> Most Hispanics are.
>
> Ummm, NO, Kunt they are't. The largest number of "Hispanic people"
>(defined as Spanish speaking as a primary language)
You alone use that unique definition.
Even with your definition, your claim fails.
>are in Latin America.
>Caucasians are a minority in almost all of Latin America, AND if you weren't
>so pig-ignorant, you'd know that even in parts of Spain Caucasians are in
>the minority.
They were the clear majority in the parts I visited. But please
prove your claim, unless you would rather admit another of your MANY
drunken pathological lies has been exposed.
The choice is yours. Prove your claim, a win for you, or admit
another of your MANY drunken pathological lies has been exposed,
another is a series of losses for you.
>The largest group of people in Latin America trace their
>genetics to aboriginal peoples (Various Indian groups) Aztecs, Myans, etc.)
It's Mayas when referring to the people. Mayan when referring to
the culture. Anyone with a VALID college degree would, or certainly
should, know this.
Of course, the Maya aren't fair skinned enough for you, as you
proved not so long ago.
>
>>>however YOU and Moore try claiming she is
>>>not that she is "brown skinned."
>
>> You've already admitted your claim was and is a lie.
>
> Besides being stupid, Kunt, you're insane. You IMAGINE I did. It's those
>voices in your head again.
By your own standards, you did admit it was and is a lie.
LIT is the only person to claim Barbara has dark skin. When she
did, I pointed out that the lighting in the picture(s) (I'm presuming
LIT was being honest about having any. A risky presumption to make, I
know) might make Barbara appear darker than she really is. David has
made no comment either way.
I'm sure you were so drunk you didn't realize my pointing out how
LIT could have made the mistake is equal to my making a claim that
Barbara has darker skin. And when David made NO comment, this, in
your inebriation, equaled his making a claim.
>
>>>She isn't. It's the ignorance of Moore and YOU who believe that ALL Latin
>>>people are "brown."
>
>> You alone see that delusional claim.
>
> You have made the caim, NOT ME!
>
You have been given ample opportunity to prove it. If I made
such a claim, post the MID and or Google link for the post.
If you wish to once again admit that you're lying, that's fine.
>>>That isn't true at all. In Cuba there are Caucasians, there are those of
>>>African heritage, there
>>> are Asians, and then there are many MIXED race people. Cuba however was
>>> an
>>>island that really never had a significant aboriginal people.
>
>> Whereas it's so far away from Australia, DUH!
>
> Aboriginal people you STUPOID POLACK does NORGT refer only to
What is NORGT?
>Austrailia.... (FUTILE attempt at education to follow)
If you're going to claim intellectual superiority, maybe you
should check your spelling.
>
>http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/aboriginal
>
>
>
>Main Entry: 1ab�orig�i�nal
>Pronunciation: \?a-b?-?rij-n?l, -?ri-j?-n?l\
>Function: adjective
>Date: 1667
>
>1 : being the first or earliest known of its kind present in a region
><aboriginal forests> <aboriginal rocks>
>
> And in this case "ABORIGINAL PEOPLE."
>
There is NO reference to people in the link you provide.
If you're going to link to something to try and prove your point,
perhaps you should link to something that, at the very least, supports
your point.
>
>>>The few that were were largely exterminated by the Spanish. Some of the
>>>women were used
>>>for "recreational" purposes by the Spanish military. YOU and Moore
>>>demand
>>>she is BROWN skinned
>
>> Post the MID and/or Google link to one such post from either of us
>> making that claim. Just one is all I ask.
>
>> Do keep in mind that neither David nor I am LIT. And LIT is the
>> ONLY person to claim Barbara is dark skinned.
>
> Grated that LIT has said some off-the-wall things recently, don't try to
>pin that on her.
Lit alone made the claim. No amount of your drunken pathological
lies will alter this simple truth.
>
>>>like many Mexican people, and persons in central and
>>>South America. She isn't. She's lighter skinned that I am. She has brown
>>>hair
>>>and eyes. So do I, or I used to, before the grey took over. YOU can try to
>>>apply
>>>your racist bullshit to it.
>
>> Could you write that sentence in English, please?
>
> Do you want it in Polack?
The language is Polish, stupid.
Your alcohol induced inability to understand the names of
languages aside, I asked for it in English.
>
>>>In your TINY mind a woman CANNOT be Latina and WHITE.
>
>> I've made no such claim.
>
> Nice to see you change your position on that.
I've offered no such change.
>
>>>So when you claim I have changed I have never "changed" my statements
>>>about my
>>> wife's heritage.
>
>> You do so twice in the post to which I am replying.
>
> You are Halllucinating again, Wills.
You may lie as often as you want. All you do is offer me more
chances to PROVE you the drunken pathological liar you are.
"Miranda was a STUPID WASTE OF TIME AND DID NOTHING!"
-- Kenneth Robert Pangborn of KRP Consulting and The A-Team.
Kent Wills
wrote:
When did Moe quote her dad? Post the MID and/or Google links to
such posts, unless you're lying. If another of your MANY drunken
pathological lies has been exposed, you won't be able to offer any MID
and/or Google link to any such posts.
"CPS cases are legal matters. Offering advice IS practicing law
without a license."
Kenneth Robert Pangborn admitting he practices law without a
license in misc.legal
Kent Wills
<fvr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>On Jan 3, 8:26�pm, Greegor <greego...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> G > Tell me about your pagan Christmas in your Daddy's house, Moe!
>>
>> Moe > How can I have one if my father is dead Greg?
>>
>> G > IF?
>>
>> KBW > Learn English, Greg.
>>
>> G > When did Frank McAllister 77 die?
>>
>> KBW > Why would Moe know about him?
>
> I never heard of a name that had 77 as part of it. Yes tehre is II,
>IV and so forth but not " 77".
I suppose it's possible. I mean, if the name was used enough
times, eventually Frank McAllister the 77th would be reached.
>
> If that is a secret agent number... (( shrugs))
>
Given Greg's mind, any delusion is possible.
>>
>> Moe's gotta love how you help her out, Kent! � LOL
>
> Kent can post whatever he wishes. I've been doing fine nailing Kennie
>to the wall on his many lies, basically helping Moore discredit
>Kennie.
Greg is well aware that my motivation is to further expose him
for the lying, pro-CPS scum he was, is and likely will be. If doing
so benefits others, that's great. It's a wonderful bonus.
Helping others in the manner Greg dishonestly claims is not, and
never has been, my goal. There is no reason to presume it will become
my goal in the future.
Since Greg is UNABLE to argue the merits, he MUST be dishonest
and attempt to distract. All available evidence shows he's failed at
every endeavor he's ever tried, so he should be quite used to it.
>
> But Kent really is as naughty boy for revealing my father's death.
>
> Bad, bad Kent!!
>
>(( laughing))
>
But it wasn't me. About a year ago Greg mentioned his death. I
stumbled on the post one afternoon while The Princess was napping. I
was bored, and figured I'd play around on Google until she woke up.
Anyway, Greg even claimed that since you didn't comment about his
claim, that you confirmed it. This was, as far as I can tell, the
beginning of the "tactic admission" delusion Greg has worked so hard
to PROVE he has.
krp
>>>>> That is KEN'S disrespect. Depending on whether Ken wants his
>>>>> extreme
>>>>> bigotry being discussed or not, Barbara's heritage will change.
>>>> Not at all Tiinkerbell, except in your deranged claims. I have never
>>>>changed my wife's heritage.
>>> Sometimes she's of European heritage, sometimes of Hispanic
>>> heritage.
>>> Depending on the point you want to make, it changes between the
>>> two.
>> I guess I keep forgetting I am dealing with a Polack.
> Are you still trying to make your daddy proud of you? If not,
> please explain the reason(s) you are so compelled to PROVE you are the
> bigot you are.
Nope just calling a Polack a Polack. A tiny MINORITY within the Polish
population. I heard you served in the Polish Navy, Kunt, but they kicked you
out of the submarine service because you kept forgetting to close the screen
door.
>>"Hispanic" is a term to evryone whose native language is Spanish, Wills.
> Liar. While most Hispanics will speak Spanish, in one form or
> another, not all do.
Look DOLT - what I was speaking of was the NATIVE LANGUAGE. Must I
diagram sentences for an IDIOT like you? I don't have the time or patience.
"Hispanic" refers to the native language and it is NOT a race!
> Lindsay is Hispanic, yet speaks very little Spanish.
Your problem. My wife is Hispanic and speaks English very well. Contrary
to DAVID MOORE'S FABLES, she spoke, read and wrote English before she came
to the U.S. Spanish is her native language but she speaks English. And some
French.
> You make it far too easy to prove your drunken pathological lies, Ken.
The DRUNK here is YOU. The term "Hispanic" has become an esy politically
correct pigeon hole for Spanish Speaking people. I hate to give a Polack
nedws, but they speak SPANISH in SPAIN, a fact you seem NOT to be able to
grasp. The majority of people in Spain are European Caucasians. Another FACT
you just cannot seem to grasp.
>>It's not a race, nor is it a nationality. They speak Spanish in Spain.
>>What a wonder, huh?
> They speak Castiliano in most of Spain. Although I did hear some
> Catalan Spanish when I visited the country.
Castillian Spanish is what most folks call "Spanish." I have said that
now 4 times.
> Anyone with a valid college degree would understand the
> difference between Castiliano and Espa�ol. That this escapes you is
> to be expected.
Castillian Spanish is SPANISH. It IS for all practical purposes
"Espa�ol" at least as it is recognized today. BUT - JACKASS - there are WIDE
variations in the Spanish that is spoken in Latin AMERICA. An example is
that words commonly ised in Cuba would be considered profanity, say in
Guatemala. Spanish is NOT a unified language. It is something like the
difference between Cockney and Oxford English, or Redneck versus English, or
Ebonics versus English. They all have the same mother but they differ.
>>Last time I checked Spain was in Europe NOT Asia. Maybe YOU ahve some
>>special Polack globe where it is part of Antarctica?
> Have I ever present such a possibility, outside of your continued
> PROOF that you only post when you're drunk?
YOUR ARGUMENT that my saying that my wife is both Hispanic and Caucasian
are CONTRADICTORY, Wills. That's YOUR nutty claim. To tell you HOW funny
you are, HOW pathetic, on the episode of "Lopez Tonight" (a rerun) last
night with Mariah Cary - she gave the DNA results for George Lopez, and it
showed HIM to be 58% European. THAT MEANS SPANISH YOU DUMBASS!!!
Do youi mzake your INSANE argument that now he would NOT be Hispanic?
>>>>She is from Cuba. Her ancestry is SPANISH on both sides of
>>>>her family. The heritage traces back from Cuba to the Canary Islands and
>>>>then to Spain. She is Caucasian,
>>> Most Hispanics are.
>> Ummm, NO, Kunt they aren't. The largest number of "Hispanic people"
>>(defined as Spanish speaking as a primary language)
> You alone use that unique definition. Even with your definition, your
> claim fails.
You're full of shit, Wills. The CENSUS uses Hispanic as a handy
recepticle to classify people "racially.' In scientific terms it's BULLSHIT
just like YOU! Walking bullshit. "Hispanic" isn't a race or even an
"ethnicity." It refers to LANGUAGE. While many "Hispanic" people are
caucasian, many are also of African ancestry, some are of Asian ancestry,
some are of aboriginal ancestry. PLEASE don't go to your STUPID side track
about ALL aboriginal people being in Australia. You are more full of shit,
Wills, than a Christmas Goose. I use the proper definition in that
"Hispanic" refers to LANGUAGE and NOT Race as YOU stupidly try to claim.
>>are in Latin America. Caucasians are a minority in almost all of Latin
>>America, AND if you weren't
>>so pig-ignorant, you'd know that even in parts of Spain Caucasians are in
>>the minority.
> They were the clear majority in the parts I visited. But please
> prove your claim, unless you would rather admit another of your MANY
> drunken pathological lies has been exposed.
I have NO idea WHERE you visited other than your claims about Belize. Oh
let's look there, shall we, Tinkerbell?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Belize
"Most Belizeans are of multiracial descent. About 34% of the population is
of mixed Maya and European descent (Mestizo), 25% are Kriols, 15% are
Spanish, about 10.6% are Mayan, and about 6.1% are Afro-Amerindian
(Garifuna).[1] The remaining population includes European, East Indian,
Chinese, Middle Eastern, and North American groups. In the case of
Europeans, most are descendants of Spanish and British colonial settlers,
whether pure-blooded or mixed with each other. Most Spanish left the nation
just after it was taken by the British colonists who, in the same way, left
after independence. Dutch and German Mennonites settled Belize, most in the
isolated areas."
In Cuba today 62% of the population is either black or mulatto. Do ytou
want to show us where you claim that the MAJORITY of people in Latin America
are caucasians? I'd LOVE to see the SOURCE for THAT insane claim of yours.
> The choice is yours. Prove your claim, a win for you, or admit
> another of your MANY drunken pathological lies has been exposed,
> another is a series of losses for you.
>
>>The largest group of people in Latin America trace their
>>genetics to aboriginal peoples (Various Indian groups) Aztecs, Myans,
>>etc.)
> It's Mayas when referring to the people. Mayan when referring to
> the culture. Anyone with a VALID college degree would, or certainly
> should, know this.
I left off the Incans. Actually, genetically they are pretty much the
same aboriginal people. Only YOU in trying to attack ME in your infantile
NEED to prove me wrong on a point will CLAIM that they are Caucasians. Yes,
Kunt, the Spanish populated much of Latin America with its colonies.
Caucasiain Spanish blood lines remain as do mixed peoples of Spanish and
native genetic strains. There are one hell of a lot of Lopez' and Gomez' and
the like because the Spanish Conquistadors like to SPREAD THE JOY with
native women. So you'll see many descendants of some dude named Private
Rodriguez. HOWEVER that is just a genetic sidebar that rape by Spanish
soldiers was COMMON.
> Of course, the Maya aren't fair skinned enough for you, as you proved
> not so long ago.
I never said that. YOU and Moore brought up the "brown skinned" issue -
NOT ME! You said your wife had Brown Skin and you were EXTREMELY PROUD of
that. IF my wife were brown skinned, Kunt, I'd not be "proud" of that, and I
also would not be embarassed by it. It makes ZERO difference to ME. It seems
to make a GREAT DEAL of importance to YOU. *I*have never chosen the women in
my life by their skin color or race. As one wise bard once said, turn them
upside down and they are all PINK on the inside. My choices in women have
been directed at WHO the women are. Even my first wife had some very
redeeming points to her. My second wife is a very intelligent woman. My
present wife is smarter than the first two combined. She's also the most fun
to be with. Unlike Wife #1 and Wife #2 she can dance. Oh and HOW she can
dance. She's fun to be with. And she is great looking. Not that the other
two were ugly. Just that Barbara is gorgeous, she was a teen model in Cuba
when she was 14+.
>>>>however YOU and Moore try claiming she is
>>>>not that she is "brown skinned."
>>> You've already admitted your claim was and is a lie.
>> Besides being stupid, Kunt, you're insane. You IMAGINE I did. It's
>> those
>>voices in your head again.
> By your own standards, you did admit it was and is a lie.
Bullshit, Kunt, you're fukked up in the head. I made No such admission.
womanGoddess
> TINKERBELL THE INEPT FELONIOUS BURGLAR"Kent Wills" <compu...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > to be expected.
>
> Castillian Spanish is SPANISH. It IS for all practical purposes
Agreed. Same with Inca and Incan.
>
> I left off the Incans.
Inca, not Incans, Kennie.
Try actually reading an anthropology book sometime.
> Actually, genetically they are pretty much the
> same aboriginal people.
Genetically we all are related as the human race. However any
anthropologist will tell you there are difference between them, else
scientists would mix them together.
> Only YOU in trying to attack ME in your infantile
> NEED to prove me wrong on a point will CLAIM that they are Caucasians.
He never said they were Caucasians.
You can distort all your wish. The subject you are deliberately
distorting is about Hispanic and Spanish categories and Latino. As you
know for a gringo that poses himself as being intimate with Hispanic
Cubans, there are clear distinctions among the Hispanics between
themselves, and even dislike for different Latino groups.
What I find worthy of note is that according to you Barbara in Cuba
was a judge yet she married ":beneath her station" so to speak, when
she married you.
And I highly doubt she married you for your looks.
> Yes,
> Kunt, the Spanish populated much of Latin America with its colonies.
> Caucasiain Spanish blood lines remain as do mixed peoples of Spanish and
> native genetic strains. There are one hell of a lot of Lopez' and Gomez' and
> the like because the Spanish Conquistadors like to SPREAD THE JOY with
> native women.
You forgot the massacres the Spaniards did, the exterminations of
mass natives by European diseases like small pox, and OC the fact
that the women were raped.
Do you think rape is " spreading the joy" Kennie?
> So you'll see many descendants of some dude named Private
> Rodriguez. HOWEVER that is just a genetic sidebar that rape by Spanish
> soldiers was COMMON.
So you admit that your term " spreading the joy" was your euphemism
for rape.
Who was it a " joy" FOR Kennie? The victim?
>
> > Of course, the Maya aren't fair skinned enough for you, as you proved
> > not so long ago.
>
> I never said that. YOU and Moore brought up the "brown skinned" issue -
> NOT ME! You said your wife had Brown Skin and you were EXTREMELY PROUD of
> that. IF my wife were brown skinned, Kunt, I'd not be "proud" of that,
Really? Why should the color of her skin be that important to you?
Seems to me if you love her you love her regardless of her skin color
or her ancestry. Kent is proud of his wife, who is a non- Caucasian,
and he obviously loves her as a complete person, which naturally
includes her ancestry.
> and I
> also would not be embarassed by it.
And yet you make a lot of noise about Barbara being light skinned IOW
Caucasian. Seems you are upset at the idea that Barbara is an "
aboriginal".
> It makes ZERO difference to ME. It seems
> to make a GREAT DEAL of importance to YOU.
Then why do you make such an issue of it? If it doesn't matter to you,
then you would not be so obviously upset.
> *I*have never chosen the women in
> my life by their skin color or race. As one wise bard once said, turn them
> upside down and they are all PINK on the inside.
Crudely put, as usual for a male , not a gentleman.
Actually to quote Clive Barker we all are books of blood for when
we're open we're red.
> My choices in women have
> been directed at WHO the women are. Even my first wife had some very
> redeeming points to her. My second wife is a very intelligent woman. My
> present wife is smarter than the first two combined. She's also the most fun
> to be with. Unlike Wife #1 and Wife #2 she can dance. Oh and HOW she can
> dance. She's fun to be with. And she is great looking. Not that the other
> two were ugly. Just that Barbara is gorgeous, she was a teen model in Cuba
> when she was 14+.
So you claim. And yet your wife divorced your fat ass.
Women often marry the male without finding out until after the
wedding how much a louse their husband actually is.
>
> >>>>however YOU and Moore try claiming she is
> >>>>not that she is "brown skinned."
> >>> You've already admitted your claim was and is a lie.
> >> Besides being stupid, Kunt, you're insane. You IMAGINE I did. It's
> >> those
> >>voices in your head again.
> > By your own standards, you did admit it was and is a lie.
>
> Bullshit, Kunt, you're fukked up in the head. I made No such admission.
Kennie you lying is a given.
womanGoddess
> On Mon, 4 Jan 2010 07:41:14 -0500, "krp" <kr...@tampabay.rr.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> >news:2e83133d-3225-4555...@m16g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
> >On Jan 3, 3:22 pm, Greegor <greego...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Tell me about your pagan Christmas in your Daddy's house, Moe!
>
> >MOE> How can I have one if my father is dead Greg?
>
> > Did your daddy pass over the holidays, Maureen? My condolences. Just a
> >while ago you were quoting his responses to my posts. I am sorry for your
> >recent loss.
>
> When did Moe quote her dad? Post the MID and/or Google links to
> such posts, unless you're lying. If another of your MANY drunken
> pathological lies has been exposed, you won't be able to offer any MID
> and/or Google link to any such posts.
I made references to what my father told me in the past but none of
them were current quotes, for obvious reasons.
After all, I did live with him for 18 years.
Moe
Eternal FOREVER KNIGHT fan
" A vampire cop? REALLY?"
"http://home.earthlink.net/~19ranger57/blies.htm
Know your scum--- http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com
>
Greegor
Then you want to make ME out to be a sicko? LOL
Greegor
Moe > me in the past but none of them were
Moe > current quotes, for obvious reasons.
So when you said you checked Ken's
'Nam stories with your Daddy, you lied?
You quoted a long dead man?
Moe > After all, I did live with him for 18 years.
18?
Moe, You're a 50 year old misfit living in your
Daddy Frank's house in Dardanelle Arkansas.
You can't get a date with either gender.
womanGoddess
> You tried to pass off somebody's obituary as your father's!
>
> Then you want to make ME out to be a sicko? LOL
You abused your ex wife.
You abused a seven year old girl even to the point of " wiping the
pee off of her" between her legs with your BARE hands.
You grew up in a house where your father was a mortician and had dead
human bodies in the cellar.
You ARE a sicko greg.
Greegor
You're a 50 year old misfit living in your Daddy Frank's
house in Dardanelle, Arkansas.
womanGoddess
> Moe > I made references to what my father told
> Moe > me in the past but none of them were
> Moe > current quotes, for obvious reasons.
>
> So when you said you checked Ken's
Cite the post where I said that.
>
> You quoted a long dead man?
I knew the man when he was alive.
As for quoting people who died, people do that a lot. You know,
citing Abraham Lincoln, Mark Twain, Shakespeare, George Carlin. All
dead but people quote what they said or wrote.
>
> Moe > After all, I did live with him for 18 years.
>
> 18?
Yes. You know, once you turn of legal age you can leave your parent's
home and go out on your own.
>
> Moe, You're a 50 year old misfit living in your
> Daddy Frank's house in Dardanelle Arkansas.
So you claim.
Funny that the web site you used to search lists three ages.
>
> You can't get a date with either gender.
I don't need to as I have a boyfriend.
Recycling the same old crap Greg? That's the best you can do?
Pathetic...
Greegor
I'm glad you brought that up!
It reveals that you have LIED about your age.
womanGoddess
> Moe > Funny that the web site you used to search lists three ages.
>
> I'm glad you brought that up!
> It reveals that you have LIED about your age.
>
Did I ever say what my age was greg?
You are the one claiming I am 50 years old, not me.
Nice try but you missed-- again.
krp
(RE: The Inca, Mayan, Aztec and other Western Hemisphere aboiriginals.)
> Actually, genetically they are pretty much the
> same aboriginal people.
MOE> Genetically we all are related as the human race. However any
MOE> anthropologist will tell you there are difference between them, else
MOE> scientists would mix them together.
The differences between them are geographic and cultural, and going back
far enough by language. Today, most of their descendants speak Spanish.
MOE> You can distort all your wish. The subject you are deliberately
MOE> distorting is about Hispanic and Spanish categories and Latino. As you
MOE> know for a gringo that poses himself as being intimate with Hispanic
MOE> Cubans, there are clear distinctions among the Hispanics between
MOE> themselves, and even dislike for different Latino groups.
I think *I* said there were significant differences, including in the
varieties of Spanish spoken in various parts of Latin America.
MOE> What I find worthy of note is that according to you Barbara in Cuba
MOE> was a judge yet she married ":beneath her station" so to speak, when
MOE> she married you. And I highly doubt she married you for your looks.
Station in life? I can list several trial consultants who have married
judges, both male and female consultants. Why are YOU so obsessed about
"stations" in life, McAllister? And, WHY are you so obsessed with SHALLOW
factors such as "looks?" Is that how YOU pick friends and companions?
> Yes,> Kunt, the Spanish populated much of Latin America with its colonies.
> Caucasiain Spanish blood lines remain as do mixed peoples of Spanish and
> native genetic strains. There are one hell of a lot of Lopez' and Gomez'
> and
> the like because the Spanish Conquistadors like to SPREAD THE JOY with
> native women.
MOE> You forgot the massacres the Spaniards did, the exterminations of
MOE> mass natives by European diseases like small pox, and OC the fact
MOE> that the women were raped.
I think you lack the intellect to understand that MY POINT was the rape
of native women by the Spaniards. Being so intellectually impaired YOU
cannot understand that I was using sarcasm to make the point of the
brutality of the Spanish.
MOE> Do you think rape is " spreading the joy" Kennie?
Not at all, since you have NO sensibilities, McAllister, that term was
SARCASTIC. But YOPU lack the intellect to understand that. You're just
fukkkking STUPID, Maureen!
> So you'll see many descendants of some dude named Private
> Rodriguez. HOWEVER that is just a genetic sidebar that rape by Spanish
> soldiers was COMMON.
MOE> So you admit that your term " spreading the joy" was your euphemism
for rape.
Shit, you are stupid, McAllister, REALLY!
MOE> Who was it a " joy" FOR Kennie? The victim?
For the Spanish PIGS, Maureen. Only in YOUR twisted Wiccan/FEMINAZI
brain could you conclude I thought it was an acceptable behavior. But-
McAllister THAT'S YOU!
> > Of course, the Maya aren't fair skinned enough for you, as you proved
> > not so long ago.
> I never said that. YOU and Moore brought up the "brown skinned" issue -
> NOT ME! You said your wife had Brown Skin and you were EXTREMELY PROUD of
> that. IF my wife were brown skinned, Kunt, I'd not be "proud" of that,
MOE> Really? Why should the color of her skin be that important to you?
You seem to miss that I said it ISN'T!. Seems like I'd need a p[ile
driver to get that point through your head, It seems EXTREMELY IMPORTANT to
Wills and Moore.
MOE> Seems to me if you love her you love her regardless of her skin color
MOE> or her ancestry.
That's what I ahve saidf a dozen times or more, Maureen. *I* am not the
one who brought up skin color. THAT subject was brought up by MOORE and
Wills joined in.
MOE> Kent is proud of his wife, who is a non- Caucasian,
MOE> and he obviously loves her as a complete person, which naturally
MOE> includes her ancestry.
Bully for him. Iam very proud of MY wife. I know her ancestry, but it
has never been a huge factor for me.
> and I also would not be embarassed by it.
MOE> And yet you make a lot of noise about Barbara being light skinned IOW
MOE> Caucasian. Seems you are upset at the idea that Barbara is an "
MOE> aboriginal".
Only because Moore and then WIlls INSISTED she has "brown skinned."
Moore is EXTREMELY concerned about that. Well largely because he's a
SKINHEAD (neoNazi). I merely responded that she isn't. She's caucasian.
> It makes ZERO difference to ME. It seems
> to make a GREAT DEAL of importance to YOU.
MOE> Then why do you make such an issue of it? If it doesn't matter to you,
MOE> then you would not be so obviously upset.
Only in reply to the MANIA of Moore and Wills who INSIST my wife is
"brown skinned." She isn't, but *IF* she were, it would make NO difference
to me. I have repeatedly made that point. I have made clear why I love her,
it has NOTHING to do with skin color, race, heritage, or any other external.
> *I*have never chosen the women in
> my life by their skin color or race. As one wise bard once said, turn them
> upside down and they are all PINK on the inside.
MOE> Crudely put, as usual for a male , not a gentleman.
I wasn't answering YOU, McAllister. YOU would make somethign sexual of it
being a rabid Feminazi. Well you HAVE TO given your inability to relate to
the male gender.
> My choices in women have been directed at WHO the women are. Even my first
> wife had some very
> redeeming points to her. My second wife is a very intelligent woman. My
> present wife is smarter than the first two combined. She's also the most
> fun
> to be with. Unlike Wife #1 and Wife #2 she can dance. Oh and HOW she can
> dance. She's fun to be with. And she is great looking. Not that the other
> two were ugly. Just that Barbara is gorgeous, she was a teen model in Cuba
> when she was 14+.
MOE> So you claim. And yet your wife divorced your fat ass.
MOE> Women often marry the male without finding out until after the
MOE> wedding how much a louse their husband actually is.
So YOU claim. YET - *I* was the plantiff in both my divorces. But in
your fukkkked up little Feminazi world, it HAD to be because THEY left ME!!
You just MUST believe that. Your entire world depends on beliefs like that.
The two divorces were for similar yet widly different reasons. The first
marriage ended because of my former wife's drug and alcohol abuse. She had a
problem before I married her, and I met and married her when she was clean.
I didn't learn about the past problems until we were married for a while.
Nobody in MY family had those problems. Neither of my parents drank at all,
and nobody in MY family used drugs. After almost 6 years I resolved that I
couldn't handle her problems. I got divorced, and I got custody of our 3
kids. My second wife had her past catch up with her when she turned 50. Her
first marriage was one of Domestic Violence. She had 20 years of a
completely non-violent marriage. She's now in a sort of repeat of her first
marriage, and while she never drank during our marriage, she does NOW. I
wish her luck. My present wife doesn't drink either.
freedom
>On Mon, 4 Jan 2010 06:22:51 -0800 (PST), womanGoddess
><fvr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>> G > Tell me about your pagan Christmas in your Daddy's house, Moe!
>>>
>>> Moe > How can I have one if my father is dead Greg?
>>>
>>> G > IF?
>>>
>>> KBW > Learn English, Greg.
>>>
>>> G > When did Frank McAllister 77 die?
>>>
>>> KBW > Why would Moe know about him?
>>
>> I never heard of a name that had 77 as part of it. Yes tehre is II,
>>IV and so forth but not " 77".
>
> I suppose it's possible. I mean, if the name was used enough
>times, eventually Frank McAllister the 77th would be reached.
Thankfully, due to Ken's daughters disowning him, and his impotence, he'll
have no more offspring, and will remain "Ken Pangborn the Nothingth."
http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com
The truth about Kenneth Pangborn of KRP Consulting, 3648 Cockatoo Drive,
New Port Richey, Florida: neighbor of James Dziewinski, Michael P
Fiorentino, Esther Z Nikkila, Christopher W Kelly, Susan A Kelly, Thomas
Kelly, Kelly A Mcleod
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one DESPICABLE CUNT!!!! ....Bitch you are GUTTER SLIME!"
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highlighting his typical views on women
"Rumors about ken are true, he is a bad man. That is why both my mother and=
I ran out of there as fast as we could back in the late summer of 2002. He
ruined my life and my moms life....His business is a scam, as he is in the
rest of his life. He enjoys child pornography and was investigated for that=
as well....he'll call my mom 20 times a day until she answers...[Ken's
sister-in-law Rebecca Reilly] wouldnt come over to our house anymore
because of how he would talk to her and come on to her....and he had over
180 pictures of her on his computer"
--Ken Pangborn's daughter Megan
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--question to Ken Pangborn from a Florida police officer in November 2008,
during a traffic stop from which Pangborn was subsequently charged with
DUI**
"...beating [some kids] into a bloody pulp is the ONLY thing=20
that would get through to them."=20
--Ken Pangborn on child rearing
"If you call the police, I'll knock out all of your teeth, I'll cripple
you. I may go to prison for it, but when I get out, I'll be able to walk,
but you will still be a cripple."
--Pangborn puppet Greg Hanson of alt.support.child-protective-services **,
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womanGoddess
> "womanGoddess" <fvrn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
>
> MOE> You forgot the massacres the Spaniards did, the exterminations of
> MOE> mass natives by European diseases like small pox, and OC the fact
> MOE> that the women were raped.
>
> I think you lack the intellect to understand that MY POINT was the rape
> of native women by the Spaniards. Being so intellectually impaired YOU
> cannot understand that I was using sarcasm to make the point of the
> brutality of the Spanish.
You didn't say that in the post Kennie.
But I can see why you wantto back out now and cover your ass. Problem
is you have said things in the past to show you are a misogynist and
it would be consistent with your view to see Spaniards raping Indian
women as a good thing.
>
> MOE> Do you think rape is " spreading the joy" Kennie?
>
> Not at all, since you have NO sensibilities, McAllister, that term was
> SARCASTIC. But YOPU lack the intellect to understand that. You're just
> fukkkking STUPID, Maureen!
If it was sarcastic as you NOW claim, then you should have NOTED it
when you posted it in the first place Kennie.
You do know how to notate sarcasm in posts, don't you?
>
> > So you'll see many descendants of some dude named Private
> > Rodriguez. HOWEVER that is just a genetic sidebar that rape by Spanish
> > soldiers was COMMON.
>
> MOE> So you admit that your term " spreading the joy" was your euphemism
> for rape.
>
> Shit, you are stupid, McAllister, REALLY!
Ad hom . You said the damn phrase not me, shit-boy.
You are the sick little bastard that claims half of the women who
report being raped lied about being raped. You were the sick little
creep that said that in domestic abuse situations the women " ask for
it".
>
> MOE> Who was it a " joy" FOR Kennie? The victim?
>
> For the Spanish PIGS, Maureen. Only in YOUR twisted Wiccan/FEMINAZI
> brain could you conclude I thought it was an acceptable behavior. But-
> McAllister THAT'S YOU!
You said it Kennie not me, You said " spreading the joy" Your fukking
words Kennie.
And to be honest I have seen the same type of shit from you before.
Those were your EXACT words about the Spaniards RAPING the women,
your CHOICE of words Kennie. Don;t blame me for pointing out your
sick, disgusting attitude about women being the victims of rape.
>
> > > Of course, the Maya aren't fair skinned enough for you, as you proved
> > > not so long ago.
> > I never said that. YOU and Moore brought up the "brown skinned" issue -
> > NOT ME! You said your wife had Brown Skin and you were EXTREMELY PROUD of
> > that. IF my wife were brown skinned, Kunt, I'd not be "proud" of that,
>
> MOE> Really? Why should the color of her skin be that important to you?
>
> You seem to miss that I said it ISN'T!. Seems like I'd need a p[ile
> driver to get that point through your head, It seems EXTREMELY IMPORTANT to
> Wills and Moore.
" Pile driver"? Is that a threat now? Like you did to another female
online last year?
You seen to like the idea of committing violence on women, expressing
violent imagery just because a woman doesn't bow to you.
Tell me Kennie, what is is about my gender that frightens you so much
you resort to threats of violence and excuse rape and violence against
women like you do?
And as for calling me a "feminazi" interesting that I haven't said
comparable hateful things about men that you say about women.
>
> MOE> Seems to me if you love her you love her regardless of her skin color
> MOE> or her ancestry.
>
> That's what I ahve saidf a dozen times or more, Maureen. *I* am not the
> one who brought up skin color. THAT subject was brought up by MOORE and
> Wills joined in.
Please check your spelling before you post.
When you get in your hissy shit fit you make atrocious typos like
you've done in this post.
Say again how many college degrees you supposedly have.
>
> MOE> Kent is proud of his wife, who is a non- Caucasian,
> MOE> and he obviously loves her as a complete person, which naturally
> MOE> includes her ancestry.
>
> Bully for him. Iam very proud of MY wife. I know her ancestry, but it
> has never been a huge factor for me.
And yet you make such an issue of it online.
Pick a lane Kennie.
>
> > and I also would not be embarassed by it.
>
> MOE> And yet you make a lot of noise about Barbara being light skinned IOW
> MOE> Caucasian. Seems you are upset at the idea that Barbara is an "
> MOE> aboriginal".
>
> Only because Moore and then WIlls INSISTED she has "brown skinned."
> Moore is EXTREMELY concerned about that. Well largely because he's a
> SKINHEAD (neoNazi). I merely responded that she isn't. She's caucasian.
So you claim. Interesting that you claim Moore is a skinhead type yet
one of the Moores you named is a black man.
You also supposedly have a photo showing Moore in a Nazi suit but
have yet to show it.
>
> > It makes ZERO difference to ME. It seems
> > to make a GREAT DEAL of importance to YOU.
>
> MOE> Then why do you make such an issue of it? If it doesn't matter to you,
> MOE> then you would not be so obviously upset.
>
> Only in reply to the MANIA of Moore and Wills who INSIST my wife is
> "brown skinned." She isn't, but *IF* she were, it would make NO difference
> to me. I have repeatedly made that point. I have made clear why I love her,
> it has NOTHING to do with skin color, race, heritage, or any other external.
Again if it is not important to you, why make such noise about it?
Just say to them it doesn't matter what race your wife is you love
her.
Wait, you haven't said you love her.
>
> > *I*have never chosen the women in
> > my life by their skin color or race. As one wise bard once said, turn them
> > upside down and they are all PINK on the inside.
>
> MOE> Crudely put, as usual for a male , not a gentleman.
>
> I wasn't answering YOU, McAllister. YOU would make somethign sexual of it
> being a rabid Feminazi. Well you HAVE TO given your inability to relate to
> the male gender.
What else am I to make of the " pink" comment Kennie?
What is the " pink" in reference to?
As for my alleged " inability to relate to the male gender", how many
males relate to anyone of MY gender? It goes both ways Kennie. Sure I
don't know what its like to have external genitalia, nocturnal
emissions or concern about the size of my genitalia. But then YOU
obviously don't relate well to females. Your misogyny is a big
handicap for you.
You can call me whatever your wish. Frankly I don't care since its
coming from an online twerp who is a liar, emotionally immature and a
pathetic excuse for a human being. IOW I consider the source.
Done with your rant?
As for wife #2 and her past of domestic violence, considering your
past statements about that specific subject you sure as hell were
supportive of her, weren't you asshole?
And why capitalize " Domestic Violence"?
Simply put Kennie, you have a problem relating to women and your rape
as "spreading the joy" comment is typical of your misogyny.
womanGoddess
wrote:
> On Tue, 05 Jan 2010, Kent Wills <compu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Mon, 4 Jan 2010 06:22:51 -0800 (PST), womanGoddess
> ><fvrn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >>On Jan 3, 8:26=A0pm, Greegor <greego...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> G > Tell me about your pagan Christmas in your Daddy's house, Moe!
>
> >>> Moe > How can I have one if my father is dead Greg?
>
> >>> G > IF?
>
> >>> KBW > Learn English, Greg.
>
> >>> G > When did Frank McAllister 77 die?
>
> >>> KBW > Why would Moe know about him?
>
> >> I never heard of a name that had 77 as part of it. Yes tehre is II,
> >>IV and so forth but not " 77".
>
> > I suppose it's possible. I mean, if the name was used enough
> >times, eventually Frank McAllister the 77th would be reached.
>
> Thankfully, due to Ken's daughters disowning him, and his impotence, he'll
> have no more offspring, and will remain "Ken Pangborn the Nothingth."
Kennie already IS a nothing.
Moe
Eternal FOREVER KNIGHT fan
" A vampire cop? REALLY?"
"http://home.earthlink.net/~19ranger57/blies.htm
Know your scum--- http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com
>
womanGoddess
> "womanGoddess" <fvrn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> Bully for him. Iam very proud of MY wife. I know her ancestry, but it
> has never been a huge factor for me.
>
> > *I*have never chosen the women in
> > my life by their skin color or race. As one wise bard once said, turn them
> > upside down and they are all PINK on the inside.
>
> MOE> Crudely put, as usual for a male , not a gentleman.
>
> I wasn't answering YOU, McAllister. YOU would make somethign sexual of it
> being a rabid Feminazi. Well you HAVE TO given your inability to relate to
> the male gender.
Gee look what I found.
Is that what you actually said to a woman Kennie?
Seems I am not the only strong woman you have shown such virulent
hatred for.
womanGoddess
>
> Is that what you actually said to a woman Kennie?
>
> Seems I am not the only strong woman you have shown such virulent
> hatred for.
>
> Moe
> Eternal FOREVER KNIGHT fan
> " A vampire cop? REALLY?"
> "http://home.earthlink.net/~19ranger57/blies.htm
>
> Know your scum---http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com
I've been looking through some of Liz's web site and it does
correlate with what I experienced when I volunteered at the Battered
Women; Shelter years ago.
I can see why the so-called " Father's Rights" movement was in fact
something to defend not nice males and what they did to women and
children.
What Liz also says in her " Unmasking the Father's Rights Movement"
article fits Kennie in so many ways. And it reflects how Kennie treats
me because I am an "uppity" woman that doesn't submit to him.
freedom
>On Jan 5, 8:18=A0am, "krp" <kr...@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
>> TINKERBELL THE INEPT FELONIOUS BURGLAR"Kent Wills" <compu...@gmail.com>
>> wrote in message
>>
>> news:ko26k516apu9dfu3s...@4ax.com...
>>
is
>> >>>>> extreme
>> >>>>> bigotry being discussed or not, Barbara's heritage will change.
ve never
>> >>>>changed my wife's heritage.
>> >>> heritage.
>> >>> =A0 =A0 Depending on the point you want to make, it changes between =
the
>> >>> two.
>> >> =A0 =A0I guess I keep forgetting I am dealing with a Polack.
>> > =A0 =A0 Are you still trying to make your daddy proud of you? =A0If no=
t,
>> > please explain the reason(s) you are so compelled to PROVE you are the=
>> > bigot you are.
>>
>> =A0 =A0 Nope just calling a Polack a Polack. A tiny MINORITY within the =
Polish
>> population. I heard you served in the Polish Navy, Kunt, but they kicked=
you
>> out of the submarine service because you kept forgetting to close the sc=
reen
>> door.
>>
>> >>"Hispanic" is a term to evryone whose native language is Spanish, Will=
s.
>> > =A0 =A0 Liar. =A0While most Hispanics will speak Spanish, in one form =
or
>> > another, not all do.
>>
>> =A0 =A0 Look DOLT - what I was speaking of was the NATIVE LANGUAGE. Must=
I
>> diagram sentences for an IDIOT like you? I don't have the time or patien=
ce.
>> "Hispanic" refers to the native language and it is NOT a race!
>>
>> > =A0 =A0 Lindsay is Hispanic, yet speaks very little Spanish.
>>
>> =A0 =A0 Your problem. My wife is Hispanic and speaks English very well. =
Contrary
>> to DAVID MOORE'S FABLES, she spoke, read and wrote English before she ca=
me
>> to the U.S. Spanish is her native language but she speaks English. And s=
ome
>> French.
FYI, the statement about Ken's mail-order wife not being able to speak
English was told to me by his daughter Megan. I specificially stated my
source for this information when I presented it. Megan stated that the two=
of them used a program on the computer to translate from Spanish to
English.
freedom
>"womanGoddess" <fvr...@yahoo.com> wrote in message=20
>news:7bebdf09-236c-4005...@m26g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
>
>(RE: The Inca, Mayan, Aztec and other Western Hemisphere aboiriginals.)
>
>> Actually, genetically they are pretty much the
>> same aboriginal people.
>
>MOE> Genetically we all are related as the human race. However any
>MOE> anthropologist will tell you there are difference between them, else
>MOE> scientists would mix them together.
>
ck=20
>far enough by language. Today, most of their descendants speak Spanish.
>
>MOE> You can distort all your wish. The subject you are deliberately
u
>MOE> know for a gringo that poses himself as being intimate with Hispanic=
>MOE> Cubans, there are clear distinctions among the Hispanics between
>MOE> themselves, and even dislike for different Latino groups.
>
> I think *I* said there were significant differences, including in the=20
>varieties of Spanish spoken in various parts of Latin America.
>
>MOE> What I find worthy of note is that according to you Barbara in Cuba
>MOE> was a judge yet she married ":beneath her station" so to speak, when
>MOE> she married you. And I highly doubt she married you for your looks.
>
> Station in life? I can list several trial consultants who have married=
=20
>judges, both male and female consultants. Why are YOU so obsessed about=20
>"stations" in life, McAllister? And, WHY are you so obsessed with SHALLOW=20
>factors such as "looks?" Is that how YOU pick friends and companions?
>
>> Yes,> Kunt, the Spanish populated much of Latin America with its colonie=
s.
>> Caucasiain Spanish blood lines remain as do mixed peoples of Spanish and=
>> native genetic strains. There are one hell of a lot of Lopez' and Gomez'=
=20
>> and
>> the like because the Spanish Conquistadors like to SPREAD THE JOY with
>> native women.
>
>MOE> You forgot the massacres the Spaniards did, the exterminations of
>MOE> mass natives by European diseases like small pox, and OC the fact
>MOE> that the women were raped.
>
> I think you lack the intellect to understand that MY POINT was the rap=
e=20
>of native women by the Spaniards. Being so intellectually impaired YOU=20
>cannot understand that I was using sarcasm to make the point of the=20
>brutality of the Spanish.
>
>MOE> Do you think rape is " spreading the joy" Kennie?
>
> Not at all, since you have NO sensibilities, McAllister, that term was=
=20
>SARCASTIC. But YOPU lack the intellect to understand that. You're just=20
>fukkkking STUPID, Maureen!
>
>> So you'll see many descendants of some dude named Private
>> Rodriguez. HOWEVER that is just a genetic sidebar that rape by Spanish
>> soldiers was COMMON.
>
>MOE> So you admit that your term " spreading the joy" was your euphemism=20
>for rape.
>
> Shit, you are stupid, McAllister, REALLY!
>
>MOE> Who was it a " joy" FOR Kennie? The victim?
>
> For the Spanish PIGS, Maureen. Only in YOUR twisted Wiccan/FEMINAZI=20
>brain could you conclude I thought it was an acceptable behavior. But-=20
>McAllister THAT'S YOU!
>
>> > Of course, the Maya aren't fair skinned enough for you, as you proved
>> > not so long ago.
>
>> I never said that. YOU and Moore brought up the "brown skinned" issue -
>> NOT ME! You said your wife had Brown Skin and you were EXTREMELY PROUD o=
f
>> that. IF my wife were brown skinned, Kunt, I'd not be "proud" of that,
>
>MOE> Really? Why should the color of her skin be that important to you?
>
> You seem to miss that I said it ISN'T!. Seems like I'd need a p[ile=20
>driver to get that point through your head, It seems EXTREMELY IMPORTANT t=
o=20
>Wills and Moore.
>
>MOE> Seems to me if you love her you love her regardless of her skin color=
>MOE> or her ancestry.
>
> That's what I ahve saidf a dozen times or more, Maureen. *I* am not th=
e=20
>one who brought up skin color. THAT subject was brought up by MOORE and=20
>Wills joined in.
>
>MOE> Kent is proud of his wife, who is a non- Caucasian,
>MOE> and he obviously loves her as a complete person, which naturally
>MOE> includes her ancestry.
>
> Bully for him. Iam very proud of MY wife. I know her ancestry, but it=20
>has never been a huge factor for me.
>
>> and I also would not be embarassed by it.
>
>MOE> And yet you make a lot of noise about Barbara being light skinned IO=
W
>MOE> Caucasian. Seems you are upset at the idea that Barbara is an "
>MOE> aboriginal".
>
> Only because Moore and then WIlls INSISTED she has "brown skinned."=20
I've never used that term in relation to your mail-order wife.
>Moore is EXTREMELY concerned about that. Well largely because he's a=20
>SKINHEAD (neoNazi).=20
You've already been outted on this particular lie. It's also hilarious
considering my wife's ethnicity.
>I merely responded that she isn't. She's caucasian.
>
>> It makes ZERO difference to ME. It seems
>> to make a GREAT DEAL of importance to YOU.
>
>MOE> Then why do you make such an issue of it? If it doesn't matter to you=
,
>MOE> then you would not be so obviously upset.
>
> Only in reply to the MANIA of Moore and Wills who INSIST my wife is=20
>"brown skinned."=20
I've never made such a statement.
She isn't, but *IF* she were, it would make NO difference=20
>to me. I have repeatedly made that point. I have made clear why I love her=
,=20
>it has NOTHING to do with skin color, race, heritage, or any other externa=
l.
>
>> *I*have never chosen the women in
>> my life by their skin color or race. As one wise bard once said, turn th=
em
>> upside down and they are all PINK on the inside.
>
>MOE> Crudely put, as usual for a male , not a gentleman.
>
>I wasn't answering YOU, McAllister. YOU would make somethign sexual of it=20
>being a rabid Feminazi. Well you HAVE TO given your inability to relate to=
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>the male gender.
>
>> My choices in women have been directed at WHO the women are. Even my fir=
st=20
>> wife had some very
>> redeeming points to her. My second wife is a very intelligent woman. My
>> present wife is smarter than the first two combined. She's also the most=
=20
>> fun
>> to be with. Unlike Wife #1 and Wife #2 she can dance. Oh and HOW she can=
>> dance. She's fun to be with. And she is great looking. Not that the othe=
r
>> two were ugly. Just that Barbara is gorgeous, she was a teen model in Cu=
ba
>> when she was 14+.
>
>MOE> So you claim. And yet your wife divorced your fat ass.
>MOE> Women often marry the male without finding out until after the
>MOE> wedding how much a louse their husband actually is.
>
> So YOU claim. YET - *I* was the plantiff in both my divorces. But in=20
>your fukkkked up little Feminazi world, it HAD to be because THEY left ME!=
!=20
>You just MUST believe that. Your entire world depends on beliefs like that=
.=20
>The two divorces were for similar yet widly different reasons. The first=20
>marriage ended because of my former wife's drug and alcohol abuse. She had=
a=20
>problem before I married her, and I met and married her when she was clean=
.=20
>I didn't learn about the past problems until we were married for a while.=20
>Nobody in MY family had those problems. Neither of my parents drank at all=
,=20
And yet you're plagued with alcohol-related problems. I proved**, with
photographic evidence, that you received a DUI last year.
Kent Wills
<fvr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
[snips for brevity and of items for which I have no comment]
>> >>The largest group of people in Latin America trace their
>> >>genetics to aboriginal peoples (Various Indian groups) Aztecs, Myans,
>> >>etc.)
>> > It's Mayas when referring to the people. =A0Mayan when referring to
>> > the culture. Anyone with a VALID college degree would, or certainly
>> > should, know this.
>
> Agreed. Same with Inca and Incan.
>
Also true.
>>
>> I left off the Incans.
>
> Inca, not Incans, Kennie.
>
> Try actually reading an anthropology book sometime.
As Ken's posts betray, he doesn't read much. What little he does
read, he doesn't understand.
[...]
>
>> Only YOU in trying to attack ME in your infantile
>> NEED to prove me wrong on a point will CLAIM that they are Caucasians.
>
> He never said they were Caucasians.
>
Pangborn either offered more PROOF that he doesn't understand
what he reads, or he's offered more PROOF that he reads very little.
> You can distort all your wish. The subject you are deliberately
>distorting is about Hispanic and Spanish categories and Latino. As you
>know for a gringo that poses himself as being intimate with Hispanic
>Cubans, there are clear distinctions among the Hispanics between
>themselves, and even dislike for different Latino groups.
>
>What I find worthy of note is that according to you Barbara in Cuba
>was a judge yet she married ":beneath her station" so to speak, when
>she married you.
>
> And I highly doubt she married you for your looks.
Ken hasn't outright admitted it, but he's made it clear Barbara
was desperate to get out of Cuba. According to Ken, most people are,
so that she was shouldn't come as a surprise.
>
>
>> Yes,
>> Kunt, the Spanish populated much of Latin America with its colonies.
>> Caucasiain Spanish blood lines remain as do mixed peoples of Spanish and
>> native genetic strains. There are one hell of a lot of Lopez' and Gomez' =
>and
>> the like because the Spanish Conquistadors like to SPREAD THE JOY with
>> native women.
>
> You forgot the massacres the Spaniards did, the exterminations of
>mass natives by European diseases like small pox, and OC the fact
>that the women were raped.
>
> Do you think rape is " spreading the joy" Kennie?
He has made it very clear he sees rape not as the act of violence
it is, but an act of sex.
You may recall when the discussion of his rape threat came up, he
wrote of sex obsessed space aliens.
This is his latest proof that he doesn't think rape is an act of
violence.
>
>> So you'll see many descendants of some dude named Private
>> Rodriguez. HOWEVER that is just a genetic sidebar that rape by Spanish
>> soldiers was COMMON.
>
> So you admit that your term " spreading the joy" was your euphemism
>for rape.
>
> Who was it a " joy" FOR Kennie? The victim?
>
I've not seen him present the claim, but he may well think that
if a rape victim has an orgasm, it means it wasn't rape.
>>
>> > Of course, the Maya aren't fair skinned enough for you, as you proved
>> > not so long ago.
>>
>> I never said that. YOU and Moore brought up the "brown skinned" issue -
>> NOT ME! You said your wife had Brown Skin and you were EXTREMELY PROUD of
>> that. IF my wife were brown skinned, Kunt, I'd not be "proud" of that,
>
> Really? Why should the color of her skin be that important to you?
>Seems to me if you love her you love her regardless of her skin color
>or her ancestry. Kent is proud of his wife, who is a non- Caucasian,
Lindsay is Caucasian. When she has cause to note her racial
heritage, she picks Caucasian, Hispanic. I pick Caucasian,
Non-Hispanic.
Note, sometimes Latino is used in place of Hispanic.
>and he obviously loves her as a complete person, which naturally
>includes her ancestry.
A truth that completely escapes one Kenneth Robert Pangborn.
>
>
>> and I
>> also would not be embarassed by it.
>
> And yet you make a lot of noise about Barbara being light skinned IOW
>Caucasian. Seems you are upset at the idea that Barbara is an "
>aboriginal".
Depending on the position Ken wishes to take, she will be one or
the other.
>
>> It makes ZERO difference to ME. It seems
>> to make a GREAT DEAL of importance to YOU.
>
>Then why do you make such an issue of it? If it doesn't matter to you,
>then you would not be so obviously upset.
It's either that or he's DESPERATE to distract from the truth I
brought forth.
Only Ken can KNOW which is the case.
>
>> *I*have never chosen the women in
>> my life by their skin color or race. As one wise bard once said, turn them
>> upside down and they are all PINK on the inside.
>
>Crudely put, as usual for a male , not a gentleman.
For a GAY male. Ken's offered the evidence of his true sexual
orientation himself.
>
> Actually to quote Clive Barker we all are books of blood for when
>we're open we're red.
I had forgotten that. Thank you for reminding me.
>
>
>> My choices in women have
>> been directed at WHO the women are. Even my first wife had some very
>> redeeming points to her. My second wife is a very intelligent woman. My
>> present wife is smarter than the first two combined. She's also the most fun
>> to be with. Unlike Wife #1 and Wife #2 she can dance. Oh and HOW she can
>> dance. She's fun to be with. And she is great looking. Not that the other
>> two were ugly. Just that Barbara is gorgeous, she was a teen model in Cuba
>> when she was 14+.
>
> So you claim. And yet your wife divorced your fat ass.
Two of his wives left him. He was able to file the divorce
paperwork for wife number two before she could.
[...]
>> > By your own standards, you did admit it was and is a lie.
>>
>> Bullshit, Kunt, you're fukked up in the head. I made No such admission.
>
> Kennie you lying is a given.
By the same standards he holds to others, he has made the
admission.
It appears both founders of Gregborn Logic� are UNABLE to follow
the same standards they set for others. I'm not surprised.
"Maybe he's like me to attach some kiddie porn to aid his fantasies"
-- Kenneth Robert Pangborn, alcoholic (according to him)
owner/operator of KRP CONsulting and The A-Team, expressing his
fondness for child porn in
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Kent Wills
<about...@aboutISkenApangbornFRAUD.com> wrote:
[...]
>>> "Hispanic" refers to the native language and it is NOT a race!
>>>
>>> > Lindsay is Hispanic, yet speaks very little Spanish.
>>>
>>> Your problem. My wife is Hispanic and speaks English very well. Contrary
>>> to DAVID MOORE'S FABLES, she spoke, read and wrote English before she came
>>> to the U.S. Spanish is her native language but she speaks English. And some
>>> French.
>
>FYI, the statement about Ken's mail-order wife not being able to speak
>English was told to me by his daughter Megan. I specificially stated my
>source for this information when I presented it. Megan stated that the two
>of them used a program on the computer to translate from Spanish to
>English.
Either that information didn't make it to her blog, or I managed
to miss it.
I have no problem believing it to be accurate.
Of course, if Barbara is about to take the Oath of Citizenship,
she will need to have a working knowledge of English. Unless they've
changed the requirements since I took it.