>On 25 Nov, 06:07, D�nk 1010011010 <dank...@rocketmail.com> wrote:
>> On Nov 24, 8:43�pm, Major Debacle <major_debacle@The_Pentagon.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Ya can't put death off forever.
>>
>> The sheeple of Britain didn't revolt when they were forced to buy
>> health insurance.
>
>The people (not 'sheeple', a term usually used by pretentious gits) of
>Britain voted for it in several elections as long ago as 1906-1910.
>They voted for an extension of the system in 1945.
>
>Opinion polls suggest that the present American people support a
>Public Option in health reform....
Actually, opinions polls show exactly the opposite....
>Please bugger off....
..says the ignorant, perverted loon from Britain, who, for some
unknown reason spends his time obsessing about American politics.
>Dr. Barry Worthington
"My interest is the swinging sub-culture"
-- Barry Worthington
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.society.liberalism/msg/cea0c8e1abca656b?dmode=source&hl=en
Which ones?
>
> >Please bugger off....
>
> ..says the ignorant, perverted loon from Britain, who, for some
> unknown reason spends his time obsessing about American politics.
The posting was about my country.........
Now get back in your cupboard....you've had your outing for today....
Dr. Barry Worthington
> >Dr. Barry Worthington
>
> "My interest is the swinging sub-culture"
> -- Barry Worthingtonhttp://groups.google.com/group/alt.society.liberalism/msg/cea0c8e1abc...- Hide quoted text -
>
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>On 25 Nov, 11:36, Steve <stevencan...@yahooooo.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 03:23:37 -0800 (PST), "Dr. Barry Worthington"
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> <sh...@abertay.ac.uk> wrote:
>> >On 25 Nov, 06:07, D�nk 1010011010 <dank...@rocketmail.com> wrote:
>> >> On Nov 24, 8:43�pm, Major Debacle <major_debacle@The_Pentagon.invalid>
>> >> wrote:
>>
>> >> > Ya can't put death off forever.
>>
>> >> The sheeple of Britain didn't revolt when they were forced to buy
>> >> health insurance.
>>
>> >The people (not 'sheeple', a term usually used by pretentious gits) of
>> >Britain voted for it in several elections as long ago as 1906-1910.
>> >They voted for an extension of the system in 1945.
>>
>> >Opinion polls suggest that the present American people support a
>> >Public Option in health reform....
>>
>> Actually, opinions polls show exactly the opposite....
>
>Which ones?
>> >Please bugger off....
>>
>> ..says the ignorant, perverted loon from Britain, who, for some
>> unknown reason spends his time obsessing about American politics.
>
>The posting was about my country.........
<LOL> Worthlesston believes that the term "American people" is about
Gr. Britain.
>Now get back in your cupboard....you've had your outing for today....
Actually, I have a lot to do today.. I have a potential new client
who has some very interesting requirements that I must prepare a bid
for...
What part of
"The sheeple of Britain didn't revolt when they were forced to buy
health insurance."
don't you understand?
--
When asked, years afterward, why his charge at Gettysburg failed,
General Pickett said: "I've always thought the Yankees had something to
do with it."
He wants you to haunt a house for him?
Dr. Barry Worthington
> >Dr. Barry Worthington
>
> >> >Dr. Barry Worthington
>
> >> "My interest is the swinging sub-culture"
> >> -- Barry Worthingtonhttp://groups.google.com/group/alt.society.liberalism/msg/cea0c8e1abc...Hide quoted text -
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>Steve wrote:
>> On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 04:18:28 -0800 (PST), "Dr. Barry Worthington"
>> <sh...@abertay.ac.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> On 25 Nov, 11:36, Steve <stevencan...@yahooooo.com> wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 03:23:37 -0800 (PST), "Dr. Barry Worthington"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> <sh...@abertay.ac.uk> wrote:
>>>>> On 25 Nov, 06:07, D�nk 1010011010 <dank...@rocketmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On Nov 24, 8:43 pm, Major Debacle <major_debacle@The_Pentagon.invalid>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> Ya can't put death off forever.
>>>>>> The sheeple of Britain didn't revolt when they were forced to buy
>>>>>> health insurance.
>>>>> The people (not 'sheeple', a term usually used by pretentious gits) of
>>>>> Britain voted for it in several elections as long ago as 1906-1910.
>>>>> They voted for an extension of the system in 1945.
>>>>> Opinion polls suggest that the present American people support a
>>>>> Public Option in health reform....
>>>> Actually, opinions polls show exactly the opposite....
>>> Which ones?
>>
>> http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/healthcare/september_2009/health_care_reform
>>
>>>>> Please bugger off....
>>>> ..says the ignorant, perverted loon from Britain, who, for some
>>>> unknown reason spends his time obsessing about American politics.
>>> The posting was about my country.........
>>
>> <LOL> Worthlesston believes that the term "American people" is about
>> Gr. Britain.
>
>What part of
>
>"The sheeple of Britain didn't revolt when they were forced to buy
>health insurance."
>
>don't you understand?
>
How convenient that you snipped all of Worthlesston's babbling about
America including the following one.. "Opinion polls suggest that the
>On 25 Nov, 14:34, Steve <stevencan...@yahooooo.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 04:18:28 -0800 (PST), "Dr. Barry Worthington"
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> <sh...@abertay.ac.uk> wrote:
>> >On 25 Nov, 11:36, Steve <stevencan...@yahooooo.com> wrote:
>> >> On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 03:23:37 -0800 (PST), "Dr. Barry Worthington"
>>
>> >> <sh...@abertay.ac.uk> wrote:
>> >> >On 25 Nov, 06:07, D�ソスnk 1010011010 <dank...@rocketmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> On Nov 24, 8:43�ソスpm, Major Debacle <major_debacle@The_Pentagon.invalid>
>> >> >> wrote:
>>
>> >> >> > Ya can't put death off forever.
>>
>> >> >> The sheeple of Britain didn't revolt when they were forced to buy
>> >> >> health insurance.
>>
>> >> >The people (not 'sheeple', a term usually used by pretentious gits) of
>> >> >Britain voted for it in several elections as long ago as 1906-1910.
>> >> >They voted for an extension of the system in 1945.
>>
>> >> >Opinion polls suggest that the present American people support a
>> >> >Public Option in health reform....
>>
>> >> Actually, opinions polls show exactly the opposite....
>>
>> >Which ones?
>>
>> http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_event...
>>
>> >> >Please bugger off....
>>
>> >> ..says the ignorant, perverted loon from Britain, who, for some
>> >> unknown reason spends his time obsessing about American politics.
>>
>> >The posting was about my country.........
>>
>> <LOL> �ソスWorthlesston believes that the term "American people" is about
>> Gr. Britain.
>>
>> >Now get back in your cupboard....you've had your outing for today....
>>
>> Actually, I have a lot to do today.. �ソス I have a potential new client
>> who has some very interesting requirements that I must prepare a bid
>> for...
>
>He wants you to haunt a house for him?
No, but you wouldn't be interested since it has nothing to do with
your interests... now what were you interests again??? oh I
remember now....
"My interest is the swinging sub-culture"
-- Barry Worthington
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.society.liberalism/msg/cea0c8e1abca656b?dmode=source&hl=en
>Dr. Barry Worthington�ソス
That's all I said about America, Steve. Most of the posting was about
where I live. But having said that, I'll say what I like on this n.g.
and you can get back in your cupboard....
Dr. Barry Worthington
Woof! Woof! "Enriched with nourishing marrowbone jelly....."
Dr. Barry Worthington
>
>
> >Dr. Barry Worthington
>
> >> >Dr. Barry Worthington
>
> >> >> >Dr. Barry Worthington
>
> >> >> "My interest is the swinging sub-culture"
> >> >> -- Barry Worthingtonhttp://groups.google.com/group/alt.society.liberalism/msg/cea0c8e1abc...quoted text -
>On 25 Nov, 17:44, Steve <stevencan...@yahooooo.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 08:10:46 -0800 (PST), "Dr. Barry Worthington"
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> <sh...@abertay.ac.uk> wrote:
>> >On 25 Nov, 14:34, Steve <stevencan...@yahooooo.com> wrote:
>> >> On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 04:18:28 -0800 (PST), "Dr. Barry Worthington"
>>
>> >> <sh...@abertay.ac.uk> wrote:
>> >> >On 25 Nov, 11:36, Steve <stevencan...@yahooooo.com> wrote:
>> >> >> On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 03:23:37 -0800 (PST), "Dr. Barry Worthington"
>>
>> >> >> <sh...@abertay.ac.uk> wrote:
Chasing dogs again, eh?
>On 25 Nov, 17:44, Steve <stevencan...@yahooooo.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 06:53:12 -0800, Major Debacle
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> <major_debacle@The_Pentagon.invalid> wrote:
>> >Steve wrote:
>> >> On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 04:18:28 -0800 (PST), "Dr. Barry Worthington"
>> >> <sh...@abertay.ac.uk> wrote:
>>
>> >>> On 25 Nov, 11:36, Steve <stevencan...@yahooooo.com> wrote:
>> >>>> On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 03:23:37 -0800 (PST), "Dr. Barry Worthington"
>>
>> >>>> <sh...@abertay.ac.uk> wrote:
You bluster and fume about the USA in just about everything you post,
Worthlesston... I suspect that you are jealous of us like so many
other British leftists or maybe you're pissed simply because we kicked
your pompous asses out of here so long ago...
I'm sure he will... that's where the Milk Bones are... but not to
worry... he'll come out the next time; you can count on it...
He's been doing the same to me for years.
Ayup.
Oh shut the fuck up and quit denying yer a fuckwit.
"Opinion polls suggest that the
> present American people support a Public Option in health reform...."
>Steve wrote:
>> On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 06:53:12 -0800, Major Debacle
>> <major_debacle@The_Pentagon.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> Steve wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 04:18:28 -0800 (PST), "Dr. Barry Worthington"
>>>> <sh...@abertay.ac.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 25 Nov, 11:36, Steve <stevencan...@yahooooo.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 03:23:37 -0800 (PST), "Dr. Barry Worthington"
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <sh...@abertay.ac.uk> wrote:
Thanks for the feedback. I'm delighted that I irritate you, but
you've only beguin being irritated... Hahahaha
He's not scary enough.
But I find this interesting, given that he's been bragging for years
that he's incredibly independently wealthy, due to his incredible
investment acumen. He's currently about 65, according to him, and he
claims his "expertise" is in "computer programming," and he's always
pretending -- er, bragging -- to be so incredibly erudite about
everything about programming.
Now, here's the question;
Who in their right mind would hire a 65-year-old programmer who has
been admittedly out of the business for years because he's been so
independently wealthy, he didn't have to work? Who the hell is he
bidding against in this economy? And since he's such an investment
genius, and has so many assets, why is he worried about out-bidding
others, anyway; that should be easy; he doesn't need the money, right?
(Cue The Stalker calling me a liar and posting the same tired bullshit
"proving" it. )
Maybe he's being hired to run PR for Microsoft...
>On Nov 25, 11:10�am, "Dr. Barry Worthington" <sh...@abertay.ac.uk>
>wrote:
>> On 25 Nov, 14:34, Steve <stevencan...@yahooooo.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 04:18:28 -0800 (PST), "Dr. Barry Worthington"
>>
>> > <sh...@abertay.ac.uk> wrote:
>> > >On 25 Nov, 11:36, Steve <stevencan...@yahooooo.com> wrote:
>> > >> On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 03:23:37 -0800 (PST), "Dr. Barry Worthington"
>>
>> > >> <sh...@abertay.ac.uk> wrote:
I have many, many skills, Milt... I don't even consider programming
to be one of my best skills... but the truth is that there aren't all
that many programmers out there that offer the customized services
that I offer.... and I do enjoy the creativeness of programming..
>Now, here's the question;
>
>Who in their right mind would hire a 65-year-old programmer who has
I was pleasantly surprised that my old compiler software, some of it
originally designed to run on Windows NT will still run nicely on my
modern laptops, including my newest one running windows 7.
>been admittedly out of the business for years because he's been so
>independently wealthy, he didn't have to work? Who the hell is he
Unlike Milt, who thought is was a good idea to cash in his retirement
account in a down market, I simply chose not to do that... and I was
getting bored not having a business to run..
>bidding against in this economy?
<LOL> well, nobody is interested in what you do, Dummy... but I
guess you already know that... Hahahaha
>And since he's such an investment
>genius, and has so many assets, why is he worried about out-bidding
>others, anyway; that should be easy; he doesn't need the money, right?
In Milt's world there is no tomorrow.. if Milt has a nickel in his
pocket, he can't wait to spend it.. if he has a credit card that
isn't maxed out, he'll be seen out looking for more instant
gratification...
The very second that the greatly disordered Shook could get his hands
on his 401, he cashed it in and pissed it away...
>(Cue The Stalker calling me a liar and posting the same tired bullshit
>"proving" it. )
>
Milt called himself a liar...
"Hey, Canyon, here's a hardball for you; sometimes I lie about my
personal life on Usenet"
--Milt Shook
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.society.liberalism/msg/f2f538a583cb79c3
<Canyon note>: No shit Sherlock...
>On Nov 25, 3:35�pm, "Dr. Barry Worthington" <sh...@abertay.ac.uk>
>wrote:
>> On 25 Nov, 17:44, Steve <stevencan...@yahooooo.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 06:53:12 -0800, Major Debacle
>>
>> > <major_debacle@The_Pentagon.invalid> wrote:
>> > >Steve wrote:
>> > >> On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 04:18:28 -0800 (PST), "Dr. Barry Worthington"
>> > >> <sh...@abertay.ac.uk> wrote:
>>
>> > >>> On 25 Nov, 11:36, Steve <stevencan...@yahooooo.com> wrote:
>> > >>>> On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 03:23:37 -0800 (PST), "Dr. Barry Worthington"
>>
>> > >>>> <sh...@abertay.ac.uk> wrote:
Poor Milt... little, dweeby, victim who has pissed away his life
jousting windmills and dreaming the impossible dream....
BTW, Milt, how's that big important, but non-existant job at Sequel
Media working for you? Hahahaha
Barry, Steve lies about everything. Nothing he says can be backed or
trusted. Why bother? Simply call him a liar, move on to dealing with
those
that may disagree with you, but are honest folk.
I don't necessarily agree with you 100%, but I respect you. We can
certainly
discuss things rationally. Canyon cannot be trusted to say it the sun
rises in
the morning. Watch him whine about something taken out of context, or
something he "searched' on Google and came up with some random cite
that
appears to back him as long as you don't understand it.
Matt
Ah... that's it... they hired him to sell their excess copies of
Vista...
Oh, man... he's been using the same tired crap for so many years, as
of a year ago or more (It's been almost a year since I figured out how
to permanently ignore his posts on Firefox, but I don't remember the
exact date), that he's actually making snide comments about shit I
said 13 years ago, as if I just said them yesterday... and is he still
providing broken links for the "quotes" from me? He was as of about a
year ago...
Now remarketed at "Windows 7 less 1"...
Shit... now I'll have to reassess... I'd written him off as
"completely useless."
Insert standard snide remark about Microsoft making the useless salable
here...
>On Nov 25, 1:35�pm, "Dr. Barry Worthington" <sh...@abertay.ac.uk>
>wrote:
>> On 25 Nov, 17:44, Steve <stevencan...@yahooooo.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 06:53:12 -0800, Major Debacle
>>
>> > <major_debacle@The_Pentagon.invalid> wrote:
>> > >Steve wrote:
>> > >> On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 04:18:28 -0800 (PST), "Dr. Barry Worthington"
>> > >> <sh...@abertay.ac.uk> wrote:
>>
>> > >>> On 25 Nov, 11:36, Steve <stevencan...@yahooooo.com> wrote:
>> > >>>> On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 03:23:37 -0800 (PST), "Dr. Barry Worthington"
>>
>> > >>>> <sh...@abertay.ac.uk> wrote:
Tellus, nor anybody else cannot produce a single lie from me... He
is, of course, pissed bewcause In post his stupidity for all to see..
such as:
"As the wattage increases, the loss decreases."
mattt...@sprynet.com
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.politics.misc/msg/d8ff3e51e76c1f45
>On Nov 26, 10:01�pm, Matt <matttel...@sprynet.com> wrote:
>> On Nov 25, 1:35�pm, "Dr. Barry Worthington" <sh...@abertay.ac.uk>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> > On 25 Nov, 17:44, Steve <stevencan...@yahooooo.com> wrote:
>>
>> > > On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 06:53:12 -0800, Major Debacle
>>
>> > > <major_debacle@The_Pentagon.invalid> wrote:
>> > > >Steve wrote:
>> > > >> On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 04:18:28 -0800 (PST), "Dr. Barry Worthington"
>> > > >> <sh...@abertay.ac.uk> wrote:
>>
>> > > >>> On 25 Nov, 11:36, Steve <stevencan...@yahooooo.com> wrote:
>> > > >>>> On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 03:23:37 -0800 (PST), "Dr. Barry Worthington"
>>
>> > > >>>> <sh...@abertay.ac.uk> wrote:
Here's some real old ones...
people we would die to meet.....
....yet he hasn't been on a date since high school....
..but he has been in relationships with some wonderful women...
...yet he has remained outside of a relationship for most of
the last 6 years.....
"I've DATED people that you would die to meet."
--Milt.Shook... Jul 4 1997
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.flame.right-wing-conservatives/msg/d2ff681c7865876d?hl=en&
"I have been in relationships with some wonderful women, and I haven't
been
oon(sic) a "date" since high school. "
--Milt.Shook. Jul 1 1997,
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.romance.chat/msg/4f3c301996aacded
"I, too, have remained outside of a relationship for most of
the last 6 years."
--Milt.Shook. May 19 1997,
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.romance/msg/38d18b9a23d84a68
"I'm shy, too, obviously, or I wouldn't even look at this newsgroup"
--.Milt Shook..Feb 28 1996 in alt.support.shyness
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.shyness/msg/23782fe7330ab04a?hl=en&
>On Nov 25, 11:55�pm, "5292 Dead, 425 since 1/20/09" <d...@dead.com>
>wrote:
>> On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 19:19:33 -0800, Milt wrote:
>> > On Nov 25, 11:10�am, "Dr. Barry Worthington" <sh...@abertay.ac.uk>
>> > wrote:
>> >> On 25 Nov, 14:34, Steve <stevencan...@yahooooo.com> wrote:
>>
>> >> > On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 04:18:28 -0800 (PST), "Dr. Barry Worthington"
>>
>> >> > <sh...@abertay.ac.uk> wrote:
>> >> > >On 25 Nov, 11:36, Steve <stevencan...@yahooooo.com> wrote:
>> >> > >> On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 03:23:37 -0800 (PST), "Dr. Barry Worthington"
>>
>> >> > >> <sh...@abertay.ac.uk> wrote:
Actually, Shook has been doing that...
As I said before, Microsft is like toilet paper... you can't live
without it but you need to remember to wash your hands after using
it..
>Ah... that's it... they hired him to sell their excess copies of
>Vista...
I'm already up on windows 7 on my new laptop.. I still have XP pro
on my older laptop...
Hey, if people buy it, who are we to not sell it to them? Wait, didn't
PT
Barnum say something along these lines..
Matt
Oh, no Steve, nobody can produce a single lie from you.
Hundreds of them, sure. But a single one? Nah.
ROFLMAO. You are so much fun. Stupid, but fun.
Matt
>On Nov 27, 4:15�am, Steve <stevencan...@yahooooo.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, 26 Nov 2009 19:01:08 -0800 (PST), Matt
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> <matttel...@sprynet.com> wrote:
>> >On Nov 25, 1:35�pm, "Dr. Barry Worthington" <sh...@abertay.ac.uk>
>> >wrote:
>> >> On 25 Nov, 17:44, Steve <stevencan...@yahooooo.com> wrote:
>>
>> >> > On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 06:53:12 -0800, Major Debacle
>>
>> >> > <major_debacle@The_Pentagon.invalid> wrote:
>> >> > >Steve wrote:
>> >> > >> On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 04:18:28 -0800 (PST), "Dr. Barry Worthington"
>> >> > >> <sh...@abertay.ac.uk> wrote:
>>
>> >> > >>> On 25 Nov, 11:36, Steve <stevencan...@yahooooo.com> wrote:
>> >> > >>>> On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 03:23:37 -0800 (PST), "Dr. Barry Worthington"
>>
>> >> > >>>> <sh...@abertay.ac.uk> wrote:
...Matt blusters like the fool he is, <LOL> but fails to produce any
lies from me....
...and apparently, still has no idea what a platform token is....
>ROFLMAO. You are so much fun. Stupid, but fun.
That's from Matt Telles who, in his statement below, struggles to
understand the simple concept of why the toaster gets hotter as you
turn the power up...
"As the wattage increases, the loss decreases.
I didn't quite believe this either, but was pointed
at some good evidence of this.
In fact, it makes sense to a certain degree, the
lossage becomes insignificant quickly."
--mattt...@sprynet.com Apr 29, 2008
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.politics.misc/msg/d8ff3e51e76c1f45
Canyon note: See what "makes sense" to a moron? Matt is
not only not the sharpest knife in the drawer, he's apparently
had some nasty encounters with the disposal..
Hell, all of the shit he's claiming to know about me, personally is a
lie. He doesn't know anything about me. In fact, someone else here e-
mailed me one of his responses wherein he even ADMITTED he's just
posting lies, to see if I'll respond. Some of the shit he's posted
about me could actually be actionable, if I thought he actually had
anything worth my time.
>
> ROFLMAO. You are so much fun. Stupid, but fun.
>
> Matt-
He used to be fun, but now I find him boring...
Oh, of COURSE not Stevie. After all, I must spend all my time
searching through your
posts for stupidity? That's a lifetime job, kiddo. Anyone that would
do that sort of thing
would REALLY have to be stupid. Oh, wait, you do.
>
> ...and apparently, still has no idea what a platform token is....
ROFLMAO. Shown to be wrong over and OVER and he still goes at it. Yep,
that's
our Stevie. STOOOOOPID Stevie.
Matt
Linux is, and always will be, a server operating system. You are never
going to turn any form of *nix into a user operating system, it is
simply
too hard to use. I would be among the first to admit that Microsoft
has
made mistakes in the past, and probably is still making them today.
But
nobody really competes adequately with Office, or SharePoint, or even
Windows, and nobody is likely to anytime soon.
>
> The Apple commercials with PC and Mac are also irritating, in that
> they offer a false choice. There are dozens of PC manufacturers out
> there, all of which make a variety of machines with a variety of
> capabilities. Yet, Apple treats them all the same.
One reason that Microsoft has always had problems that Apple does not
is because they support the third party vendors, hardware and
software.
If you want your stuff to work with millions of third party systems
out there,
you are going to have problems. They accept this. In addition, most of
the
real issues in, say, Windows, are actually caused by people running
crummy
software from other companies. Now, don't get me started on how hard
it is
to write GOOD software for Windows, or Mac, or Linux, that's my
personal
crusade in the industry. Make it easy to write high-quality, easy to
use, software
and you will have a high-quality, easy to use operating system.
Win7 is a sweet OS. I've been using it now for about 8 months or so,
and it hasn't
crashed on me once. That includes the beta, and the end of the alpha
period. I've
rarely worked with something this stable from Microsoft. I cannot say
that of Mac.
Linux is pretty stable, but so hard to use, install and configure that
it is never going
to make serious inroads into the desktop market.
Matt
He's still ignorant about how the First Amendment works after more
than six years of schooling...
He's not a bright boy...
Well, my only problem with MS, honestly, was their method for killing
competition in Office Suite systems. If you'll remember, throughout
the 1990s, they always bundled Word and Excel with Windows on business
computers. This pretty much made WordPerfect (still a better word
processing program than Word) and WordStar and others disappear. It
became a standard in business, because every computer a business
received was outfitted with it; why spend tens of thousands of dollars
on Wordperfect, when you already have Word on every desktop? Then,
when thye got everyone hooked, they started charging ridiculous
amounts of money for the licenses, and had the unmitigated gall to
take businesses to court for not buying enough of them... I found it
funny that everyone was all bent out of shape about MS bundling the
browsers and the media players, but no one said a word about what they
did to WordPerfect.
>
>
> > The Apple commercials with PC and Mac are also irritating, in that
> > they offer a false choice. There are dozens of PC manufacturers out
> > there, all of which make a variety of machines with a variety of
> > capabilities. Yet, Apple treats them all the same.
>
> One reason that Microsoft has always had problems that Apple does not
> is because they support the third party vendors, hardware and
> software.
> If you want your stuff to work with millions of third party systems
> out there,
> you are going to have problems. They accept this. In addition, most of
> the
> real issues in, say, Windows, are actually caused by people running
> crummy
> software from other companies. Now, don't get me started on how hard
> it is
> to write GOOD software for Windows, or Mac, or Linux, that's my
> personal
> crusade in the industry. Make it easy to write high-quality, easy to
> use, software
> and you will have a high-quality, easy to use operating system.
I think that's probably true... I rarely download strange software
anymore, but there does still seem to be a lot of it out there, and I
can't imagine that it's all great. I know there's an undercurrent of
love and admiration for open source, but we live in a capitalist
world, and I'm openly skeptical of anything that is given away for
free. In order for innovation to occur, there has to be a payoff of
some kind at the end; something other than "Microsoft wants to buy
it..."
>
> Win7 is a sweet OS. I've been using it now for about 8 months or so,
> and it hasn't
> crashed on me once. That includes the beta, and the end of the alpha
> period. I've
> rarely worked with something this stable from Microsoft.
I used the RC beginning in about late June, and I downloaded the
official OS when it came out. It is very nice and very stable. The
only problem I'm having is Firefox crashing occasionally, but the
problem can't be the OS, because I didn't have that problem when I was
using the RC, and I don't have the problem with Chrome, which is also
based on Mozilla, or Safari. It's not chronic; it just happens at
inopportune times, occasionally. I even tried scaling back to an
earlier version of Firefox, but that didn't solve the problem... so I
wait...
>I cannot say
> that of Mac.
I've only used Macs occasionally, but when I do, they're awesome. the
problem is, you pretty much have to use it on an Apple computer. I
know, you can set up a partition and install Snow Leopard on a PC
these days, but it's not that much better to go through all that
trouble. So, you have a choice; you can spend $1500-2000 on a MacBook,
or you can spend half as much on a PC notebook. And for comparison's
sake, look at what you can get on a PC, if you spend as much as you do
on a Mac.
A friend asked the other day, should she buy a MacBook for $1500 or a
PC for $1000. I suggested she spend $1500 on a PC and get one that
just plain rocks.
> Linux is pretty stable, but so hard to use, install and configure that
> it is never going
> to make serious inroads into the desktop market.
It's made a lot of major strides in the last 4-5 years, but it's still
a good 7-8 years behind where Mac and Windows are. It's fun to play
with at times, but most people are not computer geeks. There's a
reason why huge law offices like the ones I used to work in have an
army of IT people; people want to use the computer to write a letter;
they don't want to have to play with the computer in order to get it
in the position to where they can write the letter.
By the way, if you want some brownie points at work, I found this
little program on a German web site that allows you to use Office 7
with tabs, and I love it; I only have to have one window open, even
when I'm working with 4-5 documents. Might be a good addition for
Office 2010... just sayin....
>On Nov 27, 9:44�am, Matt <matttel...@sprynet.com> wrote:
>> On Nov 27, 7:36�am, Steve <stevencan...@yahooooo.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Fri, 27 Nov 2009 06:20:39 -0800 (PST), Matt
>>
>> > <matttel...@sprynet.com> wrote:
>> > >On Nov 27, 4:15�am, Steve <stevencan...@yahooooo.com> wrote:
>> > >> On Thu, 26 Nov 2009 19:01:08 -0800 (PST), Matt
>>
>> > >> <matttel...@sprynet.com> wrote:
>> > >> >On Nov 25, 1:35�pm, "Dr. Barry Worthington" <sh...@abertay.ac.uk>
>> > >> >wrote:
>> > >> >> On 25 Nov, 17:44, Steve <stevencan...@yahooooo.com> wrote:
>>
>> > >> >> > On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 06:53:12 -0800, Major Debacle
>>
>> > >> >> > <major_debacle@The_Pentagon.invalid> wrote:
>> > >> >> > >Steve wrote:
>> > >> >> > >> On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 04:18:28 -0800 (PST), "Dr. Barry Worthington"
>> > >> >> > >> <sh...@abertay.ac.uk> wrote:
>>
>> > >> >> > >>> On 25 Nov, 11:36, Steve <stevencan...@yahooooo.com> wrote:
>> > >> >> > >>>> On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 03:23:37 -0800 (PST), "Dr. Barry Worthington"
>>
>> > >> >> > >>>> <sh...@abertay.ac.uk> wrote:
That's from Milly Shook who stupidly said:
"Your boss (supposing you work for a private employer) fires you
because you held a Bush rally in your back yard. You should sue him,
but on what basis? Your First Amendment rights, of course."
Milt Shook:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.rush-limbaugh/msg/b37ce113a46a2ef9
The moron, Milot Shook, ignores The National Workrights Institute,
that says:
"The Constitution offers no protection for private sector employees."
--The National Workrights Institute
http://www.workrights.org/issue_whistle/wb_legislative_brief.html
*>LOL!<* You're a sociopathic liar, stephen v. cason..
--Examples follow..
"any and all capacitors work on the principal of magnetism...."
Steven Canyon <Ga...@dog.soldiers>
Mon, 12 Aug 2002 03:30:14 GMT
news:<og8elu4eaudlftq93...@4ax.com>
"I never made any claims I couldn't back up...."
Canyon <steven...@nospam.yahoo.com>
Wed, 26 Feb 2003 17:11:30 GMT
news:<i4tp5v4c5ulhakvei...@4ax.com>
"I don't need to back anything up, you moron, cause unlike
yourself, my self image is not dependent on what others
think about me."
Canyon <parkie...@nospam.yahoo.com>
Wed, 26 Feb 2003 19:59:42 GMT
news:<rg6q5vgq29cerpocl...@4ax.com>
"my ego isn't even slightly effected by what others
might think of me."
Canyon <steven...@nospam.yahoo.com>
Wed, 26 Feb 2003 17:08:28 GMT
news:<u3sp5vc0nhsdj4fbo...@4ax.com>
Ahhh, yes. The "honest" (would we lie) rethug oracle, Rasmussen
>
> >> >Please bugger off....
>
> >> ..says the ignorant, perverted loon from Britain, who, for some
> >> unknown reason spends his time obsessing about American politics.
>
Hmmmmm, you need to check out the reichtard loon who's obsessing about
Zepp's body. Oh, wait.....THAT'S YOU! Omigod!!
> >The posting was about my country.........
>
> <LOL> Worthlesston believes that the term "American people" is about
> Gr. Britain.
>
> >Now get back in your cupboard....you've had your outing for today....
>
> Actually, I have a lot to do today.. I have a potential new client
> who has some very interesting requirements that I must prepare a bid
> for...
Shoveling cow manure?
>
>
>
> >Dr. Barry Worthington
>
> >> >Dr. Barry Worthington
>
> >> "My interest is the swinging sub-culture"
> >> -- Barry Worthingtonhttp://groups.google.com/group/alt.society.liberalism/msg/cea0c8e1abc...Hide quoted text -
>
> >> - Show quoted text -
"WE"???? As in you and some other folks?
Well, of course not. You're not over 220 years old. H-O-W-E-V-E-R!!!,
Given all the recent opportunities to have proved your willingness to
stand up in defense of the United States, you've had (like dickless
cheney) "other priorities."
Your use of the pronoun "we" is a bit of a falsehood, isn't it. Ah,
well; you're a conservative; "we" know not to expect anything better.
>
>
>
> >Dr. Barry Worthington
>
> >- Hide quoted text -
I wouldn't recommend a newbie try to install Ubuntu because fairly often
there's a problem. For instance, it took me about 5 minutes to find the
code to get the touchpad going on my notebook, but about 40 minutes to
figure out that despite what the advice on all the blogs said, you didn't
put it in xorg.conf, but another, similarly-named file in the same
directory.
When there aren't glitches, it's a lot easier to install than is
Windows. And software is a LOT easier to install.
But if you have a computer with Ubuntu installed, I would recommend it
for newbies over Windows. For everyday use, you never have to worry
about what the BASH is, or even CLI. With Ubuntu, what you don't know
won't hurt you.
With Windows, ignorance is fatal. Most users don't know what the
Registry is (and would be utterly aghast if you showed it to them). They
don't understand how important it is to do the updates, both from
Microsoft and the virus software.
More than once. Corel bought up Word Perfect (and it's still the most
popular item in their line), and a few years ago, started developing a
Linux platform for WP and the popular Corel Draw. They had betas out on
the web, when MS bought up a large chunk of Corel stock. Suddenly, the
Linux-based WP and Draw projects were dropped...
Office 7 didn't have tabs? Uck!
And look what MS did to OLPC, and to millions of underprivileged children around
the world...
I think I'd rather have Bill Malariabane Gates back!
Lets try to be reasonable here. First, Microsoft bailed out Corel when
they were
on the verge of bankrupcy, much as they did with Apple. In both cases,
they have
made good money on the investment.
Secondly, Corel for Linux was a WINE implementation, meaning it was a
Windows
app that ran non-native on Linux. It wasn't well received, and when
Open Office came
out, it basically killed the project.
I do work for Microsoft, so you can take it for what it is, but I
didn't at the time. WordPerfect
was never a good product, it was a tolerable one. If you want to
complain, go to WordStar
which had a vastly better product and an incredibly stupid management.
Matt
>On Nov 27, 7:36�am, Steve <stevencan...@yahooooo.com> wrote:
>> On Fri, 27 Nov 2009 06:20:39 -0800 (PST), Matt
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> <matttel...@sprynet.com> wrote:
>> >On Nov 27, 4:15�am, Steve <stevencan...@yahooooo.com> wrote:
>> >> On Thu, 26 Nov 2009 19:01:08 -0800 (PST), Matt
>>
>> >> <matttel...@sprynet.com> wrote:
>> >> >On Nov 25, 1:35�pm, "Dr. Barry Worthington" <sh...@abertay.ac.uk>
>> >> >wrote:
>> >> >> On 25 Nov, 17:44, Steve <stevencan...@yahooooo.com> wrote:
>>
>> >> >> > On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 06:53:12 -0800, Major Debacle
>>
>> >> >> > <major_debacle@The_Pentagon.invalid> wrote:
>> >> >> > >Steve wrote:
>> >> >> > >> On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 04:18:28 -0800 (PST), "Dr. Barry Worthington"
>> >> >> > >> <sh...@abertay.ac.uk> wrote:
>>
>> >> >> > >>> On 25 Nov, 11:36, Steve <stevencan...@yahooooo.com> wrote:
>> >> >> > >>>> On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 03:23:37 -0800 (PST), "Dr. Barry Worthington"
>>
>> >> >> > >>>> <sh...@abertay.ac.uk> wrote:
any lies from me.... �
...and apparently, still has no idea what a platform token is....
>
>ROFLMAO. Shown to be wrong over and OVER and he still goes at it. Yep,
>that's
>our Stevie. STOOOOOPID Stevie.
>
>Matt
Here's matt's ignorant claims...
"Steve, are you saying that the NT 5.1 in your header
refers to your OPERATING SYSTEM?
--Matt Telles
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.rush-limbaugh/msg/79a81af7d0288a0b?hl=en
"My favorite, which nobody apparently called him
on, was that he is "running XP", from the header
of his post. This, I guess, he got from the
UserAgent string in the headers, which simply
shows what program he's posting from."
--Matt Telles
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.rush-limbaugh/msg/0c55603ef82337aa?hl=en
Here's Milt's ignorant claim:
"Just to clarify, for all who are watching and aren't The Stalker,
[windows NT 5.1 in the user agent string] clarifies which version of
FIREFOX he's using, not the operating system.
...and here's the Microsoft Developer Network website that
proves them wrong...
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms537503.aspx#UnderstandUA
"The user-agent string can contain optional details called tokens,
which must be enclosed in parentheses and vary among programs.
Internet Explorer uses tokens to describe additional details about
your computer system."
"Platform tokens describe your operating system. The following table
lists Internet Explorer platform tokens for the last several versions
of Windows."
Platform token Description
Windows NT 6.0 Windows Vista
Windows NT 5.1 Windows XP
>>> > > >> >> >> > >> >On 25 Nov, 06:07, D�nk 1010011010
To pretend that Ubuntu is ever going to be something serious computer
users will turn to is another example of Jamieson's head being up his
fat ass.
>When there aren't glitches, it's a lot easier to install than is
>Windows. And software is a LOT easier to install.
>
>But if you have a computer with Ubuntu installed, I would recommend it
>for newbies over Windows. For everyday use, you never have to worry
>about what the BASH is, or even CLI. With Ubuntu, what you don't know
>won't hurt you.
>
>With Windows, ignorance is fatal. Most users don't know what the
>Registry is (and would be utterly aghast if you showed it to them). They
>don't understand how important it is to do the updates, both from
>Microsoft and the virus software.
>
That's from David (Zepp) Jamieson who was too computer illiterate to
prevent his ex-wife's weird, queer, werewolf posts to trace straight
back to his account... I always wonder if that ruccus that caused
wasn't part of the reason she dumped him....
c--"One night when I was about fourteen or so I was outside, camping,
and I heard the brothers-in-fur begin their nightly song to the Moon.
Next thing I knew, I was on all fours, nose pointed at the sky, joing
in for all I was worth."
--Greywolf Jamieson AKA PJWOLF
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.horror.werewolves/msg/f7d2591e3b7951a0?hl=en&
Right.
Look, moron, you add nothing to any conversation. You babble and you
whine and you act like a three year old.
Do you seriously think anyone here ISN'T laughing at you? 65? ROFLMAO,
we all know you are a 12 year old. Computer programmer? You wouldn't
have a
clue, and couldn't pass any interview I gave you. Rich? You haven't a
cent to your
name.
Now just go away, and stop embarassing yourself, idiot.
Matt
Just a couple of things...
No WAY is any Linux program for newbies, except perhaps on netbooks.
if you don't know what I mean, then you're not used to working with
newbies. I've worked with people who are still distraught over having
to leave behind Wordperfect 5.1. Seriously, they're looking to turn
the machine on and have it work. Ubuntu isn't even close to that.
Windows, for better or worse, is FAR more intuitive than any Linux
build.
Updates are pretty much automatic and work in the background these
days. It's even rare that they even make you reboot. I reboot this
thing about every couple of weeks; sometimes I go almost a month
between boots. When I close the lid, it goes to sleep, and when I open
it, it tales 10-15 seconds at most to be ready to use.
As for the registry, there's almost no reason for a newbie to even
know what it it. The registry is hidden, and you would have to go
through many steps to access it. There are only a couple of ways to
uninstall programs on recent versions of Windows, so I would submit
that most newbies have no idea what the registry is, and no reason to
know any longer. More and more sites are even discouraging people from
cleaning the registry, in part because hard drives are upwards of 300
GB, so a couple of hundred MB isn't even worth cleaning.
I would also point out that you're comparing a new build of Linux to a
version of Windows that's more than 8 years old. There have been a lot
of improvements since then. Of course, I also think Vista got a bad
rap. They did a lot of things wrong at the beginning, but then, if you
remember, the XP launch was worse in many ways.
>On Nov 27, 4:05�pm, Steve <stevencan...@yahooooo.com> wrote:
>> On Fri, 27 Nov 2009 06:44:54 -0800 (PST), Matt
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> <matttel...@sprynet.com> wrote:
>> >On Nov 27, 7:36�am, Steve <stevencan...@yahooooo.com> wrote:
>> >> On Fri, 27 Nov 2009 06:20:39 -0800 (PST), Matt
>>
>> >> <matttel...@sprynet.com> wrote:
>> >> >On Nov 27, 4:15�am, Steve <stevencan...@yahooooo.com> wrote:
>> >> >> On Thu, 26 Nov 2009 19:01:08 -0800 (PST), Matt
>>
>> >> >> <matttel...@sprynet.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >On Nov 25, 1:35�pm, "Dr. Barry Worthington" <sh...@abertay.ac.uk>
>> >> >> >wrote:
>> >> >> >> On 25 Nov, 17:44, Steve <stevencan...@yahooooo.com> wrote:
>>
>> >> >> >> > On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 06:53:12 -0800, Major Debacle
>>
>> >> >> >> > <major_debacle@The_Pentagon.invalid> wrote:
>> >> >> >> > >Steve wrote:
>> >> >> >> > >> On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 04:18:28 -0800 (PST), "Dr. Barry Worthington"
>> >> >> >> > >> <sh...@abertay.ac.uk> wrote:
>>
>> >> >> >> > >>> On 25 Nov, 11:36, Steve <stevencan...@yahooooo.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >> > >>>> On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 03:23:37 -0800 (PST), "Dr. Barry Worthington"
>>
>> >> >> >> > >>>> <sh...@abertay.ac.uk> wrote:
That's from Batty Matty who claims to be programmer but had no clue
what a platform token was and apparently believes, accorsding to his
statement below, that you reduce the heat in a toaster by turning the
current up....
"As the wattage increases, the loss decreases.
Buh bye now, kid.
Matt
Matt, buddy... um...
I've been using BOTH WordPerfect and Word for many years, and let me
assure you; WordPerfect is superior to Word in just about every way,
even today. Ask any secretary whose been in the business for more than
10 years which one she prefers. Wordperfect is just a lot cleaner and
easier to use. Two words to say to any of them: "reveal codes." Their
macro function is also far better. One of the biggest pains in the ass
with Word is that it embeds code in each character, not in the page or
page section. That makes it very difficult to work with under many
circumstances.
Before MS started giving manufacturers a discount on Windows for
including a copy of Word for Windows, WordPerfect had dominated the
market. Their marketing wasn't the greatest, but frankly, what MS did
by making sure Word (and Excel) was included on every new PC was more
egregious than what they did in the browser market.
My wife is a legal secretary. She would prefer to pass on a job than
work
with WP. I think that really says all you need to know.
>
> Before MS started giving manufacturers a discount on Windows for
> including a copy of Word for Windows, WordPerfect had dominated the
> market. Their marketing wasn't the greatest, but ...
Actually, they did not. WP has never dominated the market, although
WordStar
certainly did for many years. The key codes that WordStar used, Ctrl-K
B
and Ctrl-K K are still standard in many applications.
Does the ESCape / and other stuff still show up in current apps?
Matt
>
> read more »- Hide quoted text -
I've worked with several huge law firms, and worked with dozens of
secretaries, and most of the ones who've been around long enough to
have used it prefer WP. Especially legal secretaries. Like I said;
"reveal codes." Those two words will bring stars to a secretaries
eyes.
And like i said; I;ve used both for years, although I admit I stopped
buying it with version 11, because I just can't use it that much
anymore, given the standard. But it is STILL superior to Word.
>
>
> > Before MS started giving manufacturers a discount on Windows for
> > including a copy of Word for Windows, WordPerfect had dominated the
> > market. Their marketing wasn't the greatest, but ...
>
> Actually, they did not. WP has never dominated the market, although
> WordStar
> certainly did for many years.
At the time MS started handing out Word for Windows, around 1996, WP
had almost 75% of the market.
The key codes that WordStar used, Ctrl-K
> B
> and Ctrl-K K are still standard in many applications.
>
> Does the ESCape / and other stuff still show up in current apps?
Yeah, pretty much all of the keyboard commands in WordPerfect are
still the same as they were with WP 5.1. In fact, WP 11 lets you
emulate WP 5.1, which was an awesome basic word processor.
By the way, I'm not saying Word is a bad program; with Office 2007,
it's gotten quite a bit better, although is still boggles the mind why
they felt the need to come up with .docx, except to piss off other
word processor makers who have spent years dealing with .doc
compatibility issues. Pretty much three quarters of what I have to
send out, I have to remember to save it as a .doc program, because
only those with Word 2007 can presumably open it, unless there's been
update to Word 2003 that allows it...
Get the fuck back on topic, wouldja?
--
When asked, years afterward, why his charge at Gettysburg failed,
General Pickett said: "I've always thought the Yankees had something to
do with it."
First, these were actual Linux platforms, and not WINE implementations.
I can run Corel 11 and WP12 under Wine, and they do fairly well.
And Word Perfect is still the best word processing program out there.
Just the presence of "reveal codes" makes even the most complicated tasks
a lot easier to solve when things go pear-shaped.
That's another huge advantage to WP, and even Open Office. Word can open
Word and some other Microsoft Products and that's it. I have Ami Pro
files dating back to 1991, and either WP or Open Office can handle them,
in WP's case, flawlessly. Open Office, you have to hunt down and kill a
few control codes.
Oh, and WP retails for $150, and Open Office is free.
No disputing that Microsoft and Gates have done good works.
But somehow, "we cheat the other guy and pass the savings on to you!"
lacks a certain sense of morality...
>On Nov 27, 5:32�pm, Matt <matttel...@sprynet.com> wrote:
>> > >> > > > >> >> >> > >> >On 25 Nov, 06:07, D�nk 1010011010
<shaking my head> Perhaps Milt just isn't computer literate enough...
...but for whatever Milt needs a word processor for, any old text
editor would do....
Good Lord?? Many steps to access the registry?
You just click on the windows logo and type in "regedit."
The installations of the software I write does it as well as the
uninstall programs
Shook obviously has no idea.. probably, being a dunce, he's never
even seen the registry..... All Shook does on the computer, beyond
his Usenet bluster and lies, edit and re-edit his pathetic attempts at
writing, and look at porno to compensate for his inability to find a
woman who will tolerate him.