The thing is, "live each day as if it were your last". Would you want
to make the world a better place or waste your time telling somebody
to go to hell because they don't agree with you? I believe that the
media is conditioning people to make evil choices and this is why you
have children that are behaving like demons on the streets of cities
around the world.
If we remove the profit incentive to make garbage, movies about life,
joy and morality will be made again but not until people as a
collective "Just say no" to violence.
Violence isn't the only problem as I see it… With pot and porn
outselling corn, America’s leading export is rampant pornography.
Hardcore porn makes more money than Hollywood movies; the US leads the
world in export of sex videos. Yes, my fellow Americans, stand tall
and wave those flags, take drugs to forget that porn, alcohol and
violence are your major exports to the world.
The “Christian” voice can dimly be heard Sunday morning during the wee
hours after a long night drunken binges and we have the nerve to
berate the Taliban for telling their daughters to cover up and not
follow the western example.
Reality says, If Christians were not calling 1-900 sex numbers our
televisions wouldn’t be flooded with advertising because they would
make NO PROFIT. If Christians were not going to strip clubs, buying
prostitutes and yes, making pornography freely available under the
guise of “Free Speech”, telling our daughters that sex is a commodity
to be traded for a piece of paper, the industry would be gone but its
thriving in this economic downturn. These are the “American Values”
we are fighting for and I don’t think their worth it any more.
If CHRISTIANS started actually standing up for what is truly right, we
wouldn’t have prostitutes walking down the back alleys of every major
city. We are “Porn again Christians”. What's the difference between
porn and prostitution? Porn is legal and so prostitution is also
legal in the United States but we delude ourselves into thinking
otherwise but what message are we teaching our daughters? We condemn
them for actually being whores on the one hand but overlook the fact
that our neighbor is rewarding them and buying them drugs and alcohol
to numb their senses while they pay to demean themselves.
But let me tell you daughters of the world, you are making your own
hell and selling yourselves short and any man that says otherwise
deserves nothing but despise.
> Reality says,
Reality says? You mean 'the evil antichrist spirit says...":
> If Christians were not calling 1-900 sex numbers our
> televisions wouldn’t be flooded with advertising because they would
> make NO PROFIT. If Christians were not going to strip clubs, buying
> prostitutes and yes, making pornography freely available under the
> guise of “Free Speech”, telling our daughters that sex is a commodity
> to be traded for a piece of paper, the industry would be gone but its
> thriving in this economic downturn. These are the “American Values”
> we are fighting for and I don’t think their worth it any more.
>
> If CHRISTIANS started actually standing up for what is truly right,
As always, your fruit reveals your motivation, which is to try to make
Christians responsible for all the evil in the world. Your obvious
goal is to prove Christians to be evil and that, as you've said,
"Christianity isn’t worth the toilet paper they print bibles on" (from
"guardian Snow" aka Snowjob - from http://groups.google.com/group/alt.bible.prophecy/msg/f664cfd9aefb9de3
> we
> wouldn’t have prostitutes walking down the back alleys of every major
> city. We are “Porn again Christians”. What's the difference between
> porn and prostitution? Porn is legal and so prostitution is also
> legal in the United States but we delude ourselves into thinking
> otherwise but what message are we teaching our daughters?
> We condemn
> them for actually being whores
LOL. You've condemned me as a whore, remember, Snowjob? What a
hypocrite you are!
> on the one hand but overlook the fact
> that our neighbor is rewarding them and buying them drugs and alcohol
> to numb their senses while they pay to demean themselves.
>
> But let me tell you daughters of the world, you are making your own
> hell and selling yourselves short and any man that says otherwise
> deserves nothing but despise.
As always, you are a swine who tries to make Christians responsible
for all the evil in the world.
The "fruit" of your endeavor here, i.e. the end result, your obvious
goal, as always, is to attempt to prove Christians to be evil.
You are a guardian all right; the guardian of evil and the antichrist
spirit.
YOU are an antichrist pure and simple, who does not have God, and is
worthy only to be despised.
2Jn 1:9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of
Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he
hath both the Father and the Son.
2Jn 1:10 If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine,
receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed:
2Jn 1:11 For he that biddeth him God speed [to "be well"] is partaker
of his evil deeds.
God speed - Gk. 5463 - " to be full of “cheer”, that is, calmly happy
or well off; impersonal especially as a salutation (on meeting or
parting), be well".
Thank you for your post.
It helps her to take out her anger on me instead of focusing on the
problems in her own life. Hope you have a great day Jude:)
If you actually read his posts, you might see that he posts falsehoods
continually, but then perhaps you wouldn't care. I do.
Also Snowjob is the biggest male chauvinist pig on these boards and is
in the habit of calling women filthy names like whore and Jezebel, and
just recently has been hiding behind his God-hating friend Rod,
encouraging him to call me slut, bitch, whore, lesbian, hag, etc.
while he responds to Rod's profane posts to me by thanking Rod for
being of "assistance" to him. Snowjob is a manipulative hypocritical
lowlife and my least favorite type of person, and that is on top of
his self-appointed job as an antichrist.
Why did I respond to his posts and in particular that post? Because
his focus is always to prove Christians as evil, and here he has
actually come right out and said that Christians are drunks, perverts
addicted to porn, and involved in prostitution when anyone would
realize he has no way of knowing this; it is just character
assassination of anyone professing belief in the Messiah.
Snowjob claims:
"The “Christian” voice can dimly be heard Sunday morning during the
wee
hours after a long night drunken binges and we have the nerve to
berate the Taliban for telling their daughters to cover up and not
follow the western example.
Reality says, If Christians were not calling 1-900 sex numbers our
televisions wouldn’t be flooded with advertising because they would
make NO PROFIT. If Christians were not going to strip clubs, buying
prostitutes and yes, making pornography freely available under the
guise of “Free Speech”, telling our daughters that sex is a commodity
to be traded for a piece of paper, the industry would be gone but its
thriving in this economic downturn. These are the “American Values”
we are fighting for and I don’t think their worth it any more.
If CHRISTIANS started actually standing up for what is truly right, we
wouldn’t have prostitutes walking down the back alleys of every major
city..."
You're an antichrist, Snowjob; people like you ARE the problem in
every Christian's life.
Snowjob likely projects his own vices and claims Christians are
drunks, perverts addicted to porn, and involved in prostitution,
saying:
"The “Christian” voice can dimly be heard Sunday morning during the
wee
hours after a long night drunken binges and we have the nerve to
berate the Taliban for telling their daughters to cover up and not
follow the western example.
Reality says, If Christians were not calling 1-900 sex numbers our
televisions wouldn’t be flooded with advertising because they would
make NO PROFIT. If Christians were not going to strip clubs, buying
prostitutes and yes, making pornography freely available under the
guise of “Free Speech”, telling our daughters that sex is a commodity
to be traded for a piece of paper, the industry would be gone but its
thriving in this economic downturn. These are the “American Values”
we are fighting for and I don’t think their worth it any more.
If CHRISTIANS started actually standing up for what is truly right, we
wouldn’t have prostitutes walking down the back alleys of every major
city..." <end quote>
When oh when will you ever learn the English language? It is 'they're
worth it", not "their worth it".
2Jn 1:9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of
Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he
hath both the Father and the Son.
2Jn 1:10 If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine,
receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed [to "be
well"]:
> > > Do you have to respond to EVERYTHING the guy posts? What compelled you to
> > > do so?
>
> > It helps her to take out her anger on me instead of focusing on the
> > problems in her own life. Hope you have a great day Jude:)
>
> You're an antichrist, Snowjob; people like you ARE the problem in
> every Christian's life.
Thank you for demonstrating "Christian" values for everybody. I'm
very grateful to not be you.
Are you sure you're giving credit where it is due?
>
> Snowjob likely projects his own vices and claims Christians are
> drunks, perverts addicted to porn, and involved in prostitution,
> saying:
> "The �Christian� voice can dimly be heard Sunday morning during the
> wee
> hours after a long night drunken binges and we have the nerve to
> berate the Taliban for telling their daughters to cover up and not
> follow the western example.
Hey! I know some christians just like this. Tame on sunday and
wild the rest of the week.
>
> Reality says, If Christians were not calling 1-900 sex numbers our
> televisions wouldn�t be flooded with advertising because they would
> make NO PROFIT. If Christians were not going to strip clubs, buying
> prostitutes and yes, making pornography freely available under the
> guise of �Free Speech�, telling our daughters that sex is a commodity
> to be traded for a piece of paper, the industry would be gone but its
> thriving in this economic downturn. These are the �American Values�
> we are fighting for and I don�t think their worth it any more.
>
> If CHRISTIANS started actually standing up for what is truly right, we
> wouldn�t have prostitutes walking down the back alleys of every major
> city..." <end quote>
>
>
> When oh when will you ever learn the English language? It is 'they're
> worth it", not "their worth it".
I can't understand it either..he spelled whore and jezebel perfectly...!
That would put a damper on anyones day...
He called you a whore and a jezebel, and according to the old
testament you are..a "spiritual whore" for going after a false god.
>
> Also Snowjob is the biggest male chauvinist pig on these boards and is
> in the habit of calling women filthy names like whore and Jezebel, and
> just recently has been hiding behind his God-hating friend Rod,
> encouraging him to call me slut, bitch, whore, lesbian, hag, etc.
> while he responds to Rod's profane posts to me by thanking Rod for
> being of "assistance" to him. Snowjob is a manipulative hypocritical
> lowlife and my least favorite type of person, and that is on top of
> his self-appointed job as an antichrist.
>
> Why did I respond to his posts and in particular that post? Because
> his focus is always to prove Christians as evil,
They are evil, you are as you do.
> and here he has
> actually come right out and said that Christians are drunks, perverts
> addicted to porn, and involved in prostitution when anyone would
> realize he has no way of knowing this; it is just character
> assassination of anyone professing belief in the Messiah.
Baloney. You are turning a blind eye to things that happen everyday
which your brothers and sisters are involved in. Ministers of Christ
paying prostitutes with congregation monies, embezzling millions from
ministries, sticking their middle fingers high in the air at Christ.
> > and here he has
> > actually come right out and said that Christians are drunks, perverts
> > addicted to porn, and involved in prostitution when anyone would
> > realize he has no way of knowing this; it is just character
> > assassination of anyone professing belief in the Messiah.
>
> Baloney. You are turning a blind eye to things that happen everyday
> which your brothers and sisters are involved in. Ministers of Christ
> paying prostitutes with congregation monies, embezzling millions from
> ministries, sticking their middle fingers high in the air at Christ.
I was working on my next post and saw your comments and thought..
wow.. this is exactly what I was trying to convey. Hope you don't
mind I quote you:) Thanks in advance for sharing your thoughts.
That is fine with me.
You accidentally snipped most of the post:
You're an antichrist, Snowjob; people like you ARE the problem in
every Christian's life.
Snowjob likely projects his own vices and claims Christians are
So there are some false teachers among the believers. So WHAT? You
Snowjob are one of them, so are you really going to pretend surprise
that what Christ warned would happen has happened? That doesn't equate
to your diatribe that "Christianity isn't worth the toilet paper they
print bibles on", piglet - from
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.bible.prophecy/msg/f664cfd9aefb9de3
2 Pet. 2:1, "But there were false prophets also among the people, even
as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in
damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring
upon themselves swift destruction."
Mat 7:13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and
broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which
go in thereat:
Mat 7:14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which
leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
Mat 7:15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's
clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
Mat 7:16 Ye shall know them by their fruits.
When you say Christians are "morally ambivalent and self righteous",
you are describing YOUR HYPOCRITICAL SELF, you BLIND antichrist who
whines how he is attacked while he is in the process of attacking all
Christians. You will wind up in hell, and you'll richly deserve it.
Oh that's right; you've said you don't believe in Hell (more proof you
don't really believe in God, since it is taught in the OT as well as
the NT). I can tell you don't believe in Hell. Evil people never
believe in hell and so think their evil will never come back on them.
Your disbelief won't prevent God from casting your spirit into the
lake of fire one day.
Matt. 10:28, "And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able
to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both
soul and body in hell."
Psa. 55:15, "Let death seize upon them, and let them go down quick
into hell: for wickedness is in their dwellings, and among them."
If you had any real belief in God, you wouldn't dare say the things
that you say; you're a fraud, a false teacher, and a pretender who
will one day come out of the closet like your psychotic God-hating
pretend-believer friend Rod has just done.
>
> I was working on my next post and saw your comments and thought..
> wow.. this is exactly what I was trying to convey. Hope you don't
> mind I quote you:) Thanks in advance for sharing your thoughts.
You are no lover of God; you are no friend of God; you are too busy
buddying up to God's-haters and God-deniers like your psychotic friend
Rod who has just stopped pretending to be a believer. Like draws like,
and you two are just alike - hypocritical frauds.
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Pardon me Linda for butting in here. Just a few observations regarding this
thread. Rod isn't a God-hater because he doesn't even believe your god
exists--difficult to hate nothing! Apparently what he does hate is religious
zealots who attempt to shove their religion down everyone else's throats and
threatning them with eternal hell-fire if they don't accept.
There are just so many ways that you remind me of a rabid skunk...
You are seriously stupid in a way.. I've never seen before Linda...
You are probably one of my many secret aliases now.
My apologies then. It isn't right that you should be punished
for something I've said or done.
She is quite paranoid when it comes right down to it, but
it appears that she has had people jerk her chain far to
much on usenet, and it's going to be impossible to get thru to
her. But on top of it making the matter worse is that she reacts
constantly without thinking it out first.
From my POV, Christianity is a bad enough influence on society
without Linda adding to it her own style of dysfunctionality.
> Christianity is a bad enough influence on society
> without Linda adding to it her own style of dysfunctionality.
Oh, the irony!!!
Each posting thread from these 'regulars' has more twists and turns than
an episode of Bold and the Beautiful or even Days of Our Lives
My neighbor had a problem with his ex-girlfriend cheating on him.
After the break up, he was absolutely miserable and I tried to give
him some advice for his future relationships that I thought I would
pass on.
Stop just speaking to woman seeking sexual gratification. Life is
like taking the public bus to work, you are not in control except you
know your destination.
One of the biggest problems with pornography is that as men, we tend
to start seeing woman as body parts and not sisters and daughters of
our neighbors. This in turn effects how we react to them because no
longer are we seeking just to start up a conversation with a lady, we
a seeking sexual domination and hundreds of web sites and authors
demonstrate the “Magnolia” effect. If you’ve seen Tom Cruise in
“Magnolia”, you know what I mean.
“Art is nothing more or less than various modes of stylized,
dehumanized representation.”
Susan Sontag
It is the dehumanizing and depersonalization process that allows
rapist to victimize other people and the military soldier to kill
other human beings he believes are trying to harm him. Rape and murder
begin a vicious cycle of revenge and it continues to snowball,
gathering more energy as people focus on actual human conditions.
Mat 24:11 “And many false prophets shall rise up and lead many astray.
12 “And because of the increase in lawlessness, the love of many shall
become cold.
The media becomes the great false prophet of our age as we passively
“entertain” ourselves day in and day out with various acts of violence
done against other people but religious people continue this tradition
in usenet. Consider the following quote:
> People refute your antichrist message here because you are posting in
> a religious newsgroup designed for DEBATE.
First we establish a motive in that rather than simply transmitting a
message to other people, this author believes any statement post to
her particular fiefdom must be debated and requires a response. This
allows her to proceed to say things she would never say to another
person face to face:
> I don't suppose you know what 'debate' is
> either, but because you are ignorant, you cannot understand the nature
> of the media you've chosen, instead you are under the delusion you can
> intimidate and lie and use the Messiah's teachings to manipulate
> others into silence so you can use this newsgroup as your private
> podium for your antichrist false teachings.
No longer am I another human being posting my messages and attempting
to help other people, I am an “antichrist”, a liar, ignorant,
delusional, a manipulator and basically everything evil under the
sun. In this “religious” view, I am only worthy of her scorn because
I am not human but a demonic spirit. The love of Messiah, compassion
and turning the other cheek are all but lost on this “Christian” and
many others that spew hatred on a daily bases. Let me state that
according to this persons perspective, she is absolutely correct but
what she fails to recognize is that I am independent of her good
opinion.
Rather than confront our own behavior, we attack every other person
and label them to negate them. You will find that issues of any real
significance are avoided or if the person bothers to respond, they
quickly change the topic to unrelated topics so they feel justified in
attacking another person’s point of view.
Nobody talks about their problems; nobody talks about war, anger,
hatred, and sexual abuse… the range of topics are endless but the
sociopathic nature of usenet or message posters isn’t conducive to
self analysis.
Jas 5:16 Confess your trespasses to one another, and pray for one
another, so that you are healed. The earnest prayer of a righteous one
accomplishes much.
I want to let you in on something missed by most people, evil will
destroy itself. John Milton said, “Better to reign in hell than serve
in heaven." The question begs, “Who reigns in hell?” because if
everybody wants to reign in hell, it seems you have a never ending
life of strife and for this reason the Messiah said:
Mat 12:24 But when the Pharisees heard it they said, “This one does
not cast out demons except by Beʽelzebul, the ruler of the demons.”
Mat 12:25 And Yehoshua knew their thoughts, and said to them, “Every
reign divided against itself is laid waste, and every city or house
divided against itself shall not stand.
Mat 12:26 “And if Satan casts out Satan, he is divided against
himself. How then does his reign stand?
Mat 12:27 “And if I, by Beʽelzebul, do cast out demons, by whom do
^your sons cast them out? Because of this they shall be your judges.
Your children will be your judge, did anybody catch that? We are to
be living examples and if we are doing things we don’t want our
children to do when they grow up, then the behavior to change is
ours. As I speak on this topic, my unbelieving friend Rod responded
to another person:
Original responder:
> and here he has
> actually come right out and said that Christians are drunks, perverts
> addicted to porn, and involved in prostitution when anyone would
> realize he has no way of knowing this; it is just character
> assassination of anyone professing belief in the Messiah.
(Unbelieving Rod)
“Baloney. You are turning a blind eye to things that happen every day
which your brothers and sisters are involved in. Ministers of Christ
paying prostitutes with congregation monies, embezzling millions from
ministries, sticking their middle fingers high in the air at Christ.”
As the Messiah said, “Because of this they shall be your judges.” We
are to be living example and our flaws are adopted by our children.
Want to see what a person is really like, look at the children they
raise. Raising flawed children does not mean our children are flawed,
it means we need to work harder at setting a better example for them
to follow and this can be changed in an instant.
Joh 13:15 “For I gave you an example, that you should do as I have
done to you.
If our purpose is not service to our brothers, we should re-examine
our own behavior and not waste our time wrongly condemning other
people for this is truth, “We are not the sole possessor of truth” for
this right belongs only to YAHWEH who is true and always is. We can
attempt to convey our understanding of the truth with humility but
this does not mean we are always right and this includes myself
first.
When I speak of “Christians”, I speak of myself and my brothers and
because it is my desire to fix myself. I do not condemn them and I
have no right to think I have the right to do it.
My first goal for myself must start with knowing that it is a son or
daughter of the most high, created in his image that I convey these
messages to and that I am judged according to my own actions and my
own words with the same I measure to all other people. I must fix
myself first….
Mat 7:4 “Or how is it that you say to your brother, ‘Let me remove the
splinter out of your eye,’ and see, a plank is in your own eye?
Mat 7:5 “Hypocrite! First remove the plank from your own eye, and then
you shall see clearly to remove the splinter out of your brother’s
eye.
Num 6:24 “Yahweh bless you and guard you;
Num 6:25 Yahweh make His face shine upon you, and show favour to you;
Num 6:26 Yahweh lift up His face upon you, and give you peace.” ’
Shalom,
*´¨)
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(¸.•´ (¸.• (Snow(.¸.•*´¨)
For true love is inexhaustible; the more you give, the more you have.
And if you go to draw at the true fountainhead, the more water you
draw, the more abundant is its flow.
Antoine de Saint-Exupery
A test of a people is how it behaves toward the old. It is easy to
love children. Even tyrants and dictators make a point of being fond
of children. But the affection and care for the old, the incurable,
the helpless are the true gold mines of a culture.
Abraham Joshua Heschel
Respond directly:
http://groups.google.com/group/messianicYehoshua
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/messianic_Yehoshua/
http://www.isr-messianic.org/ <- download scriptures free
http://messianicyehoshua.googlegroups.com/web/RNKJV.zip
Restored Names King James for E-sword
I understand what you're saying, but you are in error; he is a God-
hater as Rod has said I was wrong to say he doesn't believe in God.
I had posted, "Looks like you lost a follower of YHVH; he didn't last
long. Your evil buddy doesn't even believe in YHVH/YHWH", to which Rod
replied, “You foolish, lying pile of baboon excrement! The heck I
don't believe in him, in fact I consider the god and some of his
followers described in psalms 2:11 and 2:12 as psychotics, and very
real threats to human life.” - 11/24/09 - from
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.bible.prophecy/msg/f3da33658de8934f
If Rod doesn't want religion shoved down his throat, he should cease
pretending to be a Christian and/or a follower of YHVH on these
religious ngs like he's been doing. Here Rod admits, “Even my pretend
interest has faded after seeing more of your "Bible".”- 11/25/09 -
from http://groups.google.com/group/alt.bible.prophecy/msg/e8048a119483aec9
He can always post his sentiments in alt.atheism and avoid being
choked by religion.
Ah, a supporter of male chauvinist pigs...
Good to see you admit it.
> In this “religious” view, I am only worthy of her scorn because
> I am not human but a demonic spirit.
Really? Let's have your teachings on the "demonic spirit", hypocrite.
In the following post you are concerned about the "troubled spirit" in
Mark T, and so you teach him about demons after telling him "you have
a troubled spirit Mark and while I'd like to help you
identify it, until you answer my previous question honestly, I can't
speak to you directly.":
"I thought this post was particularly important so I'm reposting it so
it doesn't get lost in the blur between the cut and paste of Mark T's
post that I typically skip past.
That is a good question and one I was hoping to answer today in a
different way. Keep in mind I'm glad that you continue to post to me
but you have a troubled spirit Mark and while I'd like to help you
identify it, until you answer my previous question honestly, I can't
speak to you directly.
Joh 7:43 So a division* came about among the people because of Him.
*schisma
skhis'-mah
From G4977; a split or gap (“schism”), literally or figuratively: -
division, rent, schism.
Schism
SCHISM, n. 1. In a general sense, division or separation; but
appropriately, a division or separation in a church or denomination of
christians, occasioned by diversity of opinions; breach of unity among
people of the same religious faith.
A better question is to identify what is a demon.
Act 5:3 But Kĕpha said, “Hananyah, why has Satan filled your heart to
lie to the Set-apart Spirit and keep back from the price of the land
for yourself?
A demon is a spirit that lies to us just as in this example from Acts
5. Hananyah was demonically possessed. A demon comes to create
division amongst us. Here is a fact, we are all descendants of Adam
and Eve and so we are all brothers. Yes, Mr. Tindall, even you are my
brother and while you may not identify yourself as such because of our
different beliefs, I have no reason to think any less of you. I'm sure
you'll continue to try but even your evil prayers are of no effect to
me.
Luk 21:10 Then He said to them, “Nation shall rise against nation, and
reign against reign.
One of the greatest demons that has possessed the world with a spirit
of a lie is the one I call, "Brother P" and it is the spirit of
labeling people for the sake of creating division. You call me a
"Yank" but really thats just a label you use to hide your fears and
the demon that hides in you.
Mat 18:20 For where two or three are gathered together in my name,
there am I in the midst of them.
Other labels people use and there are many.. and they are all equally
wrong don't just include nationality but race, religion and political
labels. They are all schisms to create division amongst us and this in
fact denies us our true power of working together as brother and
sisters. The demons want to create and will create schisms to pick us
off one at a time, to divide and conquer.
Luk 12:52 For from henceforth there shall be five in one house
divided, three against two, and two against three.
We know this demon is going to grow in power because of the prophesies
by the Messiah but in the aspect of spiritual warfare, we can identify
this spirit and remove it from our midst with prayer and fasting.
Shalom,
Snow" - 12/28/07 - from http://groups.google.com/group/alt.bible/msg/76a47d0a5af6619f
> The love of Messiah, compassion
> and turning the other cheek are all but lost on this “Christian” and
> many others that spew hatred on a daily bases.
So says the hypocrite who earlier today spewed hatred when he referred
to innocent newborn babies as "bastards" - 12/10/09 - from
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.messianic/msg/c4a9e6f6ea9c2f90
That would be me.
>
> > and here he has
> > actually come right out and said that Christians are drunks, perverts
> > addicted to porn, and involved in prostitution when anyone would
> > realize he has no way of knowing this; it is just character
> > assassination of anyone professing belief in the Messiah.
Since you're quoting me, let's have the entire post:
You accidentally snipped most of the post:
You're an antichrist, Snowjob; people like you ARE the problem in
every Christian's life.
Snowjob likely projects his own vices and claims Christians are
drunks, perverts addicted to porn, and involved in prostitution,
saying:
"The “Christian” voice can dimly be heard Sunday morning during the
wee
hours after a long night drunken binges and we have the nerve to
berate the Taliban for telling their daughters to cover up and not
follow the western example.
Reality says, If Christians were not calling 1-900 sex numbers our
televisions wouldn’t be flooded with advertising because they would
make NO PROFIT. If Christians were not going to strip clubs, buying
prostitutes and yes, making pornography freely available under the
guise of “Free Speech”, telling our daughters that sex is a commodity
to be traded for a piece of paper, the industry would be gone but its
thriving in this economic downturn. These are the “American Values”
we are fighting for and I don’t think their worth it any more.
If CHRISTIANS started actually standing up for what is truly right, we
wouldn’t have prostitutes walking down the back alleys of every major
city..." <end quote>
When oh when will you ever learn the English language? It is 'they're
worth it", not "their worth it".
2Jn 1:9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of
Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he
hath both the Father and the Son.
2Jn 1:10 If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine,
receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed [to "be
well"]:
2Jn 1:11 For he that biddeth him God speed [to "be well"] is partaker
of his evil deeds.
>
> (Unbelieving Rod)
> “Baloney. You are turning a blind eye to things that happen every day
> which your brothers and sisters are involved in. Ministers of Christ
> paying prostitutes with congregation monies, embezzling millions from
> ministries, sticking their middle fingers high in the air at Christ.”
My reply to Snowjob concerning Rod's comment:
Snowjob had said to Rod:
> I was working on my next post and saw your comments and thought..
> wow.. this is exactly what I was trying to convey. Hope you don't
> mind I quote you:) Thanks in advance for sharing your thoughts.
You are no lover of God; you are no friend of God; you are too busy
buddying up to God's-haters and God-deniers like your psychotic friend
Rod who has just stopped pretending to be a believer. Like draws like,
and you two are just alike - hypocritical frauds.
>
> As the Messiah said, “Because of this they shall be your judges.” We
> are to be living example and our flaws are adopted by our children.
> Want to see what a person is really like, look at the children they
> raise.
Thank you; mine are great, even their in-laws have thanked me for the
way they were raised.
> Raising flawed children does not mean our children are flawed,
> it means we need to work harder at setting a better example for them
> to follow and this can be changed in an instant.
>
> Joh 13:15 “For I gave you an example, that you should do as I have
> done to you.
>
> If our purpose is not service to our brothers, we should re-examine
> our own behavior and not waste our time wrongly condemning other
> people for this is truth, “We are not the sole possessor of truth” for
> this right belongs only to YAHWEH who is true and always is.
> We can
> attempt to convey our understanding of the truth with humility but
> this does not mean we are always right and this includes myself
> first.
That might be true if you'd ever shown humility; there's been no
evidence of that yet; instead you rant and rave against nearly
everyone on these boards (except for your God-hating fellow profane
male chauvinist buddy Rod whose "assistance" in calling women vile
names you've said you appreciated).
>
> When I speak of “Christians”, I speak of myself and my brothers and
> because it is my desire to fix myself. I do not condemn them and I
> have no right to think I have the right to do it.
You're incredible. You've been loudly proclaiming you are not a
Christian, are proud not to be a Christian, and now you're a
Christian. See a psychiatrist, why don't you? From your "Proof
Christianity is a worthless religion." thread:
" I am proud to say, I AM NOT CHRISTIAN and I want
nothing to do with them… so why do I post to “Christian” boards?" -
from http://groups.google.com/group/alt.bible.prophecy/msg/f664cfd9aefb9de3
Because your chosen profession is antichrist. You must be hell to
live around; you're a blowhard who never shuts up, thinks he's an
expert on everything, and changes his mind about every subject from
day to day.
And come to think of it, if you are really in the Navy like you've
claimed, how is it you have the time to post to these ngs day and
night?
>
> My first goal for myself must start with knowing that it is a son or
> daughter of the most high, created in his image that I convey these
> messages to and that I am judged according to my own actions and my
> own words with the same I measure to all other people. I must fix
> myself first….
That is an excellent idea, because in case you hadn't noticed, no one
listens to an obvious lying hypocrite like yourself.
> > No longer am I another human being posting my messages and attempting
> > to help other people,
> > I am an “antichrist”, a liar, ignorant,
> > delusional, a manipulator and basically everything evil under the
> > sun.
>
> Good to see you admit it.
>
> > In this “religious” view, I am only worthy of her scorn because
> > I am not human but a demonic spirit.
Thank you for posting Linda. It is good to see that you like to make
sure my post stay at the top. Keep up the good work.
“Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting
different results. “
Albert Einstein
I think that people might find it interesting that we can learn a lot
from stalkers, web trolls and spammers. Many people on usenet have
discovered a deep truth by the collective of these people that have an
insane need to attack other people… It is insanity to post the same
messages to people expecting different results and I have to admit, at
times I’ve been guilty of that same insanity but I’m learning from it
an important truth:
“Where Focus goes, energy flows”
To me, if religion isn’t helping other people work out problems, its
just vanity being shouted from the pulpit. In Hebrew religion and the
religion of the Messiah, the FOCUS was on the spirit YAHWEH, on belief
and on helping others though healing and teachings.
Denis Waitley says, “Don't dwell on what went wrong. Instead, focus on
what to do next. Spend your energies on moving forward toward finding
the answer.”
I believe in explaining the same principle in several different ways
and by doing this, it’s my hope that the real life examples I speak
about help the reader to know how to apply these basic principles in
their own life.
Finding a different way to communicate the same message is something
that I work on developing. If we consider the patters of the person
attacking another person’s point of view, we come to realize that we
empower the very things we are against but I didn’t always understand
this notion until I got into a spam war with other users.
People would tell me, “don’t feed the troll” and I didn’t listen to
them because I didn’t consider the principle (“where focus goes”) but
the more I posted to the threads of those people I considered insane,
the more their threads stayed at the top of the board… I posted a
response and the link to his message went straight back to the top
where some other person would tell me, “if you stop posting to him he
will go away”.
Henry Rollins said, “To hate is to show you still care, who needs
that, focus on what's really important.”
Mat 5:44 “But I say to you, love your enemies, bless those cursing
you, do good to those hating you, and pray for those insulting you and
persecuting you,
Positive action does not come about by negative contemplation. We
can’t bring about world peace by going to war or thinking combat is a
solution to anything. War must be thought of as a mental illness that
is not an option. Instead of attacking population centers, simply cut
off the heads of state that promote this agenda.
We are not going to find solutions to world poverty, hunger or
environmental destruction by focusing on the problems; we must find a
better solution to them. I can throw a barrel of money and food at
the starving poor people but until they are taught how to provide for
themselves, I haven’t done them any favors except reward apathy like a
welfare system does.
Rod Blagojevich says, “A successful economic development strategy must
focus on improving the skills of the area's workforce, reducing the
cost of doing business and making available the resources business
needs to compete and thrive in today's global economy.” Notice that
he doesn’t talk about what people don’t have? Anything successful
must focus on the resources already available and making use of what
we have and improving that. Finally, we do not teach the Good News by
focusing on false ministry and attacking everybody else’s belief and
it’s for this reason the Messiah taught:
Mat 10:13 “And if the house is worthy, let your peace come upon it.
But if it is not worthy, let your peace return to you.” 14 “And
whoever does not receive you nor hear your words, when you leave that
house or city, shake off the dust from your feet.”
You are either part of the problem or part of the solution and the
axiom that says, “Give a man a fish, feed him for a day, teach a man
to fish, feed him for life”… Let’s make some fishermen and provide
some solutions.
The question is, who has the best solution and who has problems? I
always think that what brings out the best in people is competition.
Do you have a problem? I wonder if somebody would follow this up by
telling me what is wrong and see if a solution comes from talking
about it… but if you take anything away from this I hope you learn to
count your blessings and stop dwelling on what you don’t have.
Num 6:24 “Yahweh bless you and guard you;
Num 6:25 Yahweh make His face shine upon you, and show favour to you;
Num 6:26 Yahweh lift up His face upon you, and give you peace.” ’
Shalom,
*´¨)
¸.•´ ¸.•*´¨) ¸.•*¨)
(¸.•´ (¸.• (Snow(.¸.•*´¨)
For true love is inexhaustible; the more you give, the more you have.
And if you go to draw at the true fountainhead, the more water you
draw, the more abundant is its flow.
Antoine de Saint-Exupery
A test of a people is how it behaves toward the old. It is easy to
love children. Even tyrants and dictators make a point of being fond
of children. But the affection and care for the old, the incurable,
the helpless are the true gold mines of a culture.
Abraham Joshua Heschel
Respond directly:
http://groups.google.com/group/messianicYehoshua
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/messianic_Yehoshua/
http://www.isr-messianic.org/ <- download scriptures free
http://messianicyehoshua.googlegroups.com/web/RNKJV.zip
Restored Names King James for E-sword
http://messianicyehoshua.googlegroups.com/web/Jubilees.pdf
Book of Jubilees
You don't seem to understand anything that is told to you. I
EXPLICITLY (go look this word up in Merriam Webster) told you that
god exists ONLY IN YOUR MINDS, NOWHERE ELSE! god has no existence
outside of your imaginations! Why is it that you can't, OR WON'T
quote me CORRECTLY, you lying pig, eh ?
You lowlife deceptive, piece of shit christian gutter slut..why can't
you find an overpass on the interstate and jump off in rush hour
traffic!
>
> If Rod doesn't want religion shoved down his throat, he should cease
> pretending to be a Christian and/or a follower of YHVH on these
> religious ngs like he's been doing.
In one post you accuse me ceasing to pretend, in another you accuse
me of pretending..which is it, eh shit for brains ?
I'm not a christian, or any kind of believer. I've walked away from
the faith because it is nothing but lies.
Is that clear enough for even a retard like you to understand ? Do you
believe that you can quote me correctly from now on, or do you need
help with that as well ?
> Here Rod admits, �Even my pretend
> interest has faded after seeing more of your "Bible".�- 11/25/09 -
> from http://groups.google.com/group/alt.bible.prophecy/msg/e8048a119483aec9
>
> He can always post his sentiments in alt.atheism and avoid being
> choked by religion.
>
>
And the crime in that is what ?
Let this sink in Linda...I don't believe in your god, I detest and
abhor many of Christianity's followers, and I want to see all religions
wiped from the face of this planet.
Comprehende Bimbo ?
You do both moron, because you're NUTS.
>
> I'm not a christian, or any kind of believer. I've walked away from
> the faith because it is nothing but lies.
>
> Is that clear enough for even a retard like you to understand ? Do you
> believe that you can quote me correctly from now on, or do you need
> help with that as well ?
>
> > HereRodadmits, “Even my pretend
> > interest has faded after seeing more of your "Bible".”- 11/25/09 -
> > fromhttp://groups.google.com/group/alt.bible.prophecy/msg/e8048a119483aec9
> Snow" - 12/28/07 - fromhttp://groups.google.com/group/alt.bible/msg/76a47d0a5af6619f
Wow Linda.. You really are digging up some gold mines, aren't you.
Obsessed with me still I see. I can say without any certainty that
what I knew 2 years ago, was WRONG. I was ignorant and had not
progressed in my understandings. For this reason, I will not bother
to consider teachings that I made two years ago. Let's bring you up
to date with something that will really offend you:
Christians like to fashion a deity of their own making, a sort of
Golden Cross for you to bow down and worship and while Yehoshua is our
sovereign, he has a deity too. Yahweh commands respect and obedience
even if we have not known him; the day will come when all knees will
fearfully bow before our Abba the EL Shaddai.
Christians have fashioned a deity that serves them, dies for them and
asks nothing in return except they believe and yet, they don’t or else
they would guard his commands.
The Christian deity reneges on his covenant to his chosen people and
makes a new covenant by dragging disobedient, wicked strangers in to
his house to behave as demons condemning everybody else.
Isa 54:16 “See, I Myself have created the blacksmith who blows the
coals in the fire, who brings forth an instrument for his work. And I
have created the waster to destroy.
Isaiah wasn’t the only prophet to speak of Yahweh creating evil.
Pro 16:4 Yahweh has made all for His purpose, And also the wrong for
the day of evil.
Christians have a hard time understanding that evil is the result of
our transgression of his Torah. They go around in this magic fairy
land that says they can do whatever they want, ignore his teachings
and as long as they go to church on Sunday, they can spit on the
homeless on the way out the door.
Jer 13:15 Listen and give ear, do not be proud, for Yahweh has
spoken.
Jer 13:16 Give esteem to Yahweh your Elohim before He brings darkness,
and before your feet stumble on the dark mountains, and while you are
looking for light. He turns it into the shadow of death, makes it
gross darkness.
What scares Christians is that the dialogue is turned upside down and
our wisdom, man’s wisdom is brought to naught before the Almighty. I
would strongly recommend to anybody that they spend more time in
reading the prophets to garner more knowledge on the topic. Yahweh
desires that we know, understand and obey his words and not just pay
lip service.
It’s a silly dogma that says the Almighty will punish righteous,
compassionate people that seek to truly be kind to all men and obey
the 10 Commands just because they don’t subscribe to Christian dogma
that isn’t supported by the Good News.
Christians insist that unless I worship their deity, Jesus Christ, I’m
damned and yet, even Jesus didn’t say that.
Mat 4:10 Then saith Yehoshua unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it
is written, Thou shalt worship YHWH thy Elohim, and him only shalt
thou serve.
It’s pointless putting up the removed name version that Christians
dwell in. That the Messiah always directed us to worship the heavenly
Father is an undeniable fact. We all know that Christians reconcile
this with the Trinity doctrine but that says 3 is one and in this
logic that says, 1 + 1 + 1 = One, they insist one bow to them and not
the deity that inspired the scriptures using scare tactics. Do I
fear, Yahweh, absolutely and why I try hard to keep my faith true and
my beliefs according to his word as I understand it.
The fact that Yahweh sends good and bad prophets is very scriptural
and yet, the world lives in disbelief.
Deu 13:3 Thou shalt not hearken unto the words of that prophet, or
that dreamer of dreams: for YHWH your Elohim proveth you, to know
whether ye love YHWH your Elohim with all your heart and with all your
soul.
The Messiah put a stamp on those that he acknowledged to be true and
warned us of those who were not and it would behoove my brothers to
listen to those warnings. Hopefully this helps somebody…
Num 6:24 “Yahweh bless you and guard you;
Num 6:25 Yahweh make His face shine upon you, and show favour to you;
Num 6:26 Yahweh lift up His face upon you, and give you peace.” ’
Shalom,
*´¨)
¸.•´ ¸.•*´¨) ¸.•*¨)
(¸.•´ (¸.• (Snow(.¸.•*´¨)
A test of a people is how it behaves toward the old. It is easy to
love children. Even tyrants and dictators make a point of being fond
of children. But the affection and care for the old, the incurable,
the helpless are the true gold mines of a culture.
Abraham Joshua Heschel
Respond directly:
http://groups.google.com/group/messianicYehoshua
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/messianic_Yehoshua/
http://www.isr-messianic.org/ <- download scriptures free
http://messianicyehoshua.googlegroups.com/web/RNKJV.zip
Restored Names King James for E-sword
http://e-sword-users.org/users/index.php
Free bible software
http://messianicyehoshua.googlegroups.com/web/Jubilees.pdf
Book of Jubilees
Man's sin is in his failure to live what he is. Being the master of
the earth, man forgets that he is the servant of Yahweh.
Abraham Joshua Heschel
Calling me nuts doesn't change the fact that you are both a liar
and stupid as the day is long.
> > You do both moron, because you're NUTS.
>
> Calling me nuts doesn't change the fact that you are both a liar
> and stupid as the day is long.
I love you Rod, but.. why do you bother with them? I appreciate your
attempts to help me.. did you ever take out that special somebody for
a picnic or write her a poem???
“We never know how high we are
Till we are called to rise;
And then, if we are true to plan,
Our statures touch the skies—
The Heroism we recite
Would be a daily thing,
Did not ourselves the Cubits warp
For fear to be a King—“
By Emily Dickenson
Shalom,
*´¨)
¸.•´ ¸.•*´¨) ¸.•*¨)
(¸.•´ (¸.• (Snow(.¸.•*´¨)
“This is my letter to the world,
That never wrote to me, -
The simple news that Nature told,
With tender majesty.
Her message is committed
To hands I cannot see;
For love of her, sweet countrymen,
Judge tenderly of me!”
By Emily Dickinson
Exo 20:7 “You do not bring the Name of 'Yud-Heh-Vav-Heh [translated
Yahweh] your Elohim to naught, for Yahweh does not leave the one
unpunished who brings His Name to naught.
A few can touch the magic string, and noisy fame is proud to win them:
Alas for those that never sing, but die with all their music in them!
Oliver Wendell Holmes
With love,
Why ? Evil like this isn't going away anytime soon I stuck my head
in the sand once, turned on my kill file so I wouldn't see the
hateful posts, and 9 months later I found myself in handcuffs
being detained because of a post accusing me of trying to murder
her(Kelly).
Now you know why I bother. When I'm convinced that law enforcement
knows them for what they really are, thats when I'll rest
> I appreciate your
> attempts to help me..
Thank you. That means a lot to me.
> Why ? Evil like this isn't going away anytime soon
"Evil" like what? People posting in a newsgroup online is "evil"?
You've really lost all touch with reality this time, wodney.
> I stuck my head
> in the sand once, turned on my kill file so I wouldn't see the
> hateful posts, and 9 months later I found myself in handcuffs
> being detained because of a post accusing me of trying to murder
> her(Kelly).
LOL!!! Riiight...you were arrested by the non-existant police
officers with the non-existant handcuffs for something that never
happened.
You're such a liar - if Snow believes these lies from you, he's
stupider than I ever imagined.
> Now you know why I bother. When I'm convinced that law enforcement
> knows them for what they really are, thats when I'll rest
Riiight..."law enforcement" cares about stuff that's written in a
free, unmoderated forum on the internet by people they don't know and
aren't in their jurisdiction.
What a dope you are.
Below is the post that I was detained over; After you read
it I would be grateful if you would find information on
reading headers and learn how to read them with accuracy.
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From: "<<<~A John 3:16 Whosoever~>>>" <kaseybec...@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: soc.religion.quaker,alt.religion.christian.baptist
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On Apr 10, 9:30=A0pm, Rod <icom...@att.net> wrote:
> <<<~A John 3:16 Whosoever~>>> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Apr 10, 8:53 pm, Rod <icom...@att.net> wrote:
>
> >> =A0 =A0Yes Kelly, it was me trying to get away from being stalked
> >> =A0 =A0and harassed by you because of your obsession with me. I'm
> >> =A0 =A0serving notice on you now officially, leave me alone and get
> >> =A0 =A0some help with your obsession.
>
> >> =A0 =A0Get this...don't post about me, to me, or follow me from
group t=
o
> >> =A0 =A0group. I desire to have a normal life back that doesn't
have you=
in
> >> =A0 =A0it and I'm ready to do what it takes. Do you understand ?
>
> >> =A0 =A0Don't respond, just do it....
> > Don't presume you have a right to tell me what to do. =A0Do you
> > understand?
> =A0 =A0yes, you're nuts.
You can go ahead and tell yourself that and try to get those in here
to believe it -
But the truth is that *you* are the one who has been stalking *me* and
subjecting me to harrassment - with threats of violence (veiled and
direct): putting bombs in my mailbox, placing a bomb under my car,
following me home one night from work in order to do me harm, sending
me something poisonous or deadly in the mail - the list goes on. It
is you have made sexually harassing remarks to me in Usenet. It is
you who has chosen to use hate-speech against me and toward me. It is
you who has followed me around Usenet using sock-puppets. You are the
one who has scanned and hacked into my computer (and others' in
Usenet). It is you who has impersonated government officials in
Usenet. It is you who has lied about me over and over again. Again,
the list goes on (and on and on).
It is because of all of this that I was forced to call your local law
enforcement and make a *informal* complaint. Don't for one moment
think, however, that the option of making a *formal* complaint has
been taken off the table. But, whether the necessity to do so exists
is completely up to you. Leave me alone, and I will leave you
alone.
It's really quite simple.
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Above is the post you doctored and changed from what was originally
written by me, Rodney Eastman of Emporia, Kansas. You know it, I know
it. Are you sure you want to resurrect this?