Friedman Predicts the Destruction of the Dollar
tianm...@gmail.com
in his classic book prophetically revealed how 0baMa0's reckless
monetary policies will cause hyperinflation and destroy our nation
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Gary Forbis
Milton Freidman coined the phrase "there's no such thing as a free
lunch."
I live by that phrase. Milton Friedman's other philosophies screwed
up
several economies. People are worried about hyperinflation
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Production of United States Mint American Eagle Gold Proof
and Uncirculated Coins has been temporarily suspended because
of unprecedented demand for American Eagle Gold Bullion Coins.
Bush's administration more than doubled the money base during
his last year in office. Production didn't double, infact the economy
was contracting. I wonder where the money is going that we don't
already have huge inflation. None the less, I don't blame Obama
for this problem. Government spending itself doesn't cause inflation.
Inflation is too much money chasing too few goods. If the money
isn't chasing the goods there won't be inflation.
US productive capacity has been sidelined. It's being dismantled.
There isn't enough money in the system to support our production.
As long as we are in a global system where other nations do not
value their labor our labor will be devalued. There's no free lunch.
We are becoming a third world nation. The Reagan era is ending.
Milton Friedman was wrong about just about everything except
there is no free lunch.
dave
Milton Friedman? Give me a break. The man should be in Hell with
Chairman Mao.
Vid...@tcq.net
> tianmei...@gmail.com wrote:
> > The late, great Milton Friedmanhttp://www.ideachannel.tv/
> > in his classic book prophetically revealed how 0baMa0's reckless
> > monetary policies will cause hyperinflation and destroy our nation
> >https://www.newsmaxstore.com/nm_mag/free_mischief.cfm?PROMO_CODE=7FD4-1
>
> Milton Friedman? Give me a break. The man should be in Hell with
> Chairman Mao.
both gary and dave are correct, the man was a one man wrecking crew,
who destroyed the demand(wages)of the western worker. today we are
reaping what he and other quacks and cranks, have sown.
he destroyed the economy of the u.k., ireland, iceland, the baltics,
russia, almost all of south and central america, new zealand, really,
almost the entire world. now its even hitting us.
we are in a deflationary spiral, and it will be a miracle if we can
avoid a out right depression. a deflationary spiral is wage deflation,
which translates into plummeting demand, something all of miltons
polices have led us to.
milton destroyed the dollar.
squawk hyper-inflation hyper-inflation, except, when you are in a
wage deflation spiral(plummeting demand, demand is driven by wages):
U.S. consumer prices unchanged in April, sluggish consumer demand
limited companies' pricing power
even gas is up quite a bit, but it still does not matter. deflation
must be roaring in america for prices to be flat when energy is up so
much.
it bodes ill for the new energy bubble though, demand is falling for
their products. pretty soon the idiots will have to sell their assets
for cash to pay their bills, then oil and gold will plummet again.
U.S. consumer prices unchanged in April
• On Friday May 15, 2009, 8:54 am EDT
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. consumer prices were unchanged in April as
expected, but recorded their largest 12-month drop since 1955,
government data showed on Friday, as sluggish consumer demand limited
companies' pricing power.
The Labor Department said its closely watched Consumer Price Index was
flat after falling 0.1 percent in March. Compared to the same period
last year, consumer prices fell 0.7 percent, the biggest 12-month
decline since June 1955. In March, the year-over-year CPI rate fell
0.4 percent.
Core prices, which exclude food and energy items, rose a faster 0.3
percent versus a 0.2 percent increase in March. That compared to
analysts' prediction for a 0.1 percent increase. Core prices rose 1.9
percent year over year after a 1.8 percent rise in March.
Energy prices fell 2.4 percent after dropping 3.0 percent the previous
month. The food index fell 0.2 percent in April, the largest drop
since May 2002 and the third straight monthly decline.
(Reporting by Lucia Mutikani, Editing by Andrea Ricci)
They call me Trinity
"dave" <da...@dave.dave> wrote in message
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There's a Haitian saying: "He who lays down with dogs gets up with fleas"
and a Dutch saying "Mix with the slops and you'll be fed to the hogs" IMO
these sum
up the end result of globalization nicely (as I perceive it). First world
countries will be dragged down to the
level of the third world.
Vid...@tcq.net
<ThisIs...@ARealMailAddress.com> wrote:
> "dave" <d...@dave.dave> wrote in message
>
> news:58qdnQbhz7Fw9ZDX...@earthlink.com...
>
> > tianmei...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> The late, great Milton Friedmanhttp://www.ideachannel.tv/
> >> in his classic book prophetically revealed how 0baMa0's reckless
> >> monetary policies will cause hyperinflation and destroy our nation
> >>https://www.newsmaxstore.com/nm_mag/free_mischief.cfm?PROMO_CODE=7FD4-1
>
> > Milton Friedman? Give me a break. The man should be in Hell with
> > Chairman Mao.
>
> There's a Haitian saying: "He who lays down with dogs gets up with fleas"
> and a Dutch saying "Mix with the slops and you'll be fed to the hogs" IMO
> these sum
> up the end result of globalization nicely (as I perceive it). First world
> countries will be dragged down to the
> level of the third world.
correct, you cannot ignore the destruction of wages because you are
competing with slave and sweatshop labor, on top of all of the
environmental destruction. sooner or later the wage destruction will
come home to roost and demand plunges.
how the market fundamentalists can still have a feverish grip on the
world is beyond me, they have been complete failures, and have driven
just about every country into bankruptcy.
free trade is dead, its dying as we speak, yet, the g-20 just meet,
got down on their hands and knee's, and are still barking and braying
about the wonders of the free market, and pledging themselves openly
to adhere to the religion, simply amazing.
Gary Forbis
> free trade is dead, its dying as we speak, yet, the g-20 just meet,
> got down on their hands and knee's, and are still barking and braying
> about the wonders of the free market, and pledging themselves openly
> to adhere to the religion, simply amazing.
After all that has happened I still believe we are best served by free
trade in fair markets. Our economic and military safety is best
served
by shared interests of the masses and control of the power elite in
every nation.
In my younger years I underestimated the impacts of cultural norms
and the time it takes to change them. I wonder how many really hear
Obama's UofA speech, especially the parts about standards of success.
I wonder how many around the world dream of one day becoming the
oppressor rather than the opressed, not thinking about the alternative
where none are oppressed.
I still think that when China come fully on line things will start
getting
better even if there are other holdouts. The problem is to find a way
to bring them on line without destroying the habitat for humans.
(�`�.�Craig Chilton�.���) �� WHY be Unemployed? www.LayoffRemedy.com ��
tianm...@gmail.com wrote:
> Friedman Predicts the Destruction of the Dollar
Actually, it would be NEAT if the world could adopt
ONE universal, planetwide currency. Hopefully soon!
-- (�`�.�Craig Chilton�.���) <drivers...@ymail.com>
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Employees in Right-to Work States -- DEFEND that Right!!
Because THIS is what you will be in for if the Loathsome
"Unionization's Camel's Nose Act" is passed by Congress!
(Here come the GOONS!!)
It's DECEPTIVELY entitled the "Employees' Free Choice Act."
But it guarantees the OPPOSITE of freedom!
As THIS astute person was kind enough to tell us ---
"I love the pro-union responses! I'm amazed they can
type such disingenuous drivel with a straight face! I see
they don't address the fact that the bill allows and encour-
ages unions to apply unlimited pressure on employees to
to sign the cards.
"I have the "United Steel Workers of America" union at
my place and twice now the employees have tried to de-
certify. The USW sent goons from a number of surround-
ing states to harass and threaten the employees in person
at their homes, at all hours of the night and weekends to
the point that many complained to the National Labor Board
and a number of them quit. The next round is coming this
year and the employees seem prepared for a battle. The
USW sure doesn't want to give up the money they get each
week for nothing."
-- Buerste" <Bue...@att.com>, 3-15-09
*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
Vid...@tcq.net
> On May 15, 7:27 am, Vide...@tcq.net wrote:
>
> > free trade is dead, its dying as we speak, yet, the g-20 just meet,
> > got down on their hands and knee's, and are still barking and braying
> > about the wonders of the free market, and pledging themselves openly
> > to adhere to the religion, simply amazing.
>
> After all that has happened I still believe we are best served by free
> trade in fair markets. Our economic and military safety is best
> served
> by shared interests of the masses and control of the power elite in
> every nation.
>
a complete fairy tale. the exact opposite has happened.
> In my younger years I underestimated the impacts of cultural norms
> and the time it takes to change them. I wonder how many really hear
> Obama's UofA speech, especially the parts about standards of success.
> I wonder how many around the world dream of one day becoming the
> oppressor rather than the opressed, not thinking about the alternative
> where none are oppressed.
>
in a free market, you are free to do as you please, and that is just
what happened to us. we are living the nightmare of freedom for the
few.
> I still think that when China come fully on line things will start
> getting
> better even if there are other holdouts. The problem is to find a way
> to bring them on line without destroying the habitat for humans.
holdouts, just about every country in the world is back peddling from
free trade as fast as they can to save what little wealth they have
left.
Vid...@tcq.net
> On Fri, 15 May 2009 07:27:35 -0700 (PDT), Vide...@tcq.net wrote:
> > correct, you cannot ignore the destruction of wages because you are
> >competing with slave and sweatshop labor, on top of all of the
> >environmental destruction. sooner or later the wage destruction will
> >come home to roost and demand plunges.
>
correct. and i think they are coming, even if the powers that be,
kick and scream and get on their knees and beg forgiveness to their
gods. sooner or later, its going to happen, otherwise we fail, and the
nation breaks up.
Vid...@tcq.net
Unemployed? www.LayoffRemedy.com ••" <driverservi...@ymail.com>
wrote:
> On Fri, 15 May 2009 05:27:33 -0700 (PDT),
>
> > Friedman Predicts the Destruction of the Dollar
>
> Actually, it would be NEAT if the world could adopt
> ONE universal, planetwide currency. Hopefully soon!
>
not really, shame on you. can you imagine a milton friedman,
frederick hayek, alan greenspan, reagan, thatcher, pinochet, bush one
or two getting a hold of that kind of power?
> -- (¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯) <driverservi...@ymail.com>
>
> http://www.LayoffRemedy.com.com-- Unemployment Solution!
> http://www.ChristianEgalitarian.com-- Fight the RRR Cult!
> http://spifar.blogspot.com-- Tactics: Defending Human Rights
> http://pro-christian.blogspot.com-- Exposing RRR Bigotry
> http://www.shadowandillusion.com-- Learn "The LOPAQUA Secret!"
> http://www.TravelForPay.org-- Learn how to get PAID to TRAVEL!
>
> *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
>
> Employees in Right-to Work States -- DEFEND that Right!!
> Because THIS is what you will be in for if the Loathsome
> "Unionization's Camel's Nose Act" is passed by Congress!
> (Here come the GOONS!!)
>
> It's DECEPTIVELY entitled the "Employees' Free Choice Act."
>
> But it guarantees the OPPOSITE of freedom!
>
> As THIS astute person was kind enough to tell us ---
>
> "I love the pro-union responses! I'm amazed they can
> type such disingenuous drivel with a straight face! I see
> they don't address the fact that the bill allows and encour-
> ages unions to apply unlimited pressure on employees to
> to sign the cards.
>
> "I have the "United Steel Workers of America" union at
> my place and twice now the employees have tried to de-
> certify. The USW sent goons from a number of surround-
> ing states to harass and threaten the employees in person
> at their homes, at all hours of the night and weekends to
> the point that many complained to the National Labor Board
> and a number of them quit. The next round is coming this
> year and the employees seem prepared for a battle. The
> USW sure doesn't want to give up the money they get each
> week for nothing."
>
> -- Buerste" <Buer...@att.com>, 3-15-09
>
> *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
~ RHF
> On May 15, 5:27 am, tianmei...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > in his classic book prophetically revealed how 0baMa0's reckless
> > monetary policies will cause hyperinflation and destroy our nation
> >https://www.newsmaxstore.com/nm_mag/free_mischief.cfm?PROMO_CODE=7FD4-1
>
> Milton Freidman coined the phrase "there's no such thing as a free
> lunch."
> I live by that phrase. Milton Friedman's other philosophies screwed
> up
>
> Production of United States Mint American Eagle Gold Proof
> and Uncirculated Coins has been temporarily suspended because
> of unprecedented demand for American Eagle Gold Bullion Coins.
>
> Bush's administration more than doubled the money base during
> his last year in office. Production didn't double, infact the economy
> was contracting. I wonder where the money is going that we don't
> already have huge inflation. None the less, I don't blame Obama
> for this problem. Government spending itself doesn't cause inflation.
> Inflation is too much money chasing too few goods. If the money
> isn't chasing the goods there won't be inflation.
>
> US productive capacity has been sidelined. It's being dismantled.
> There isn't enough money in the system to support our production.
> As long as we are in a global system where other nations do not
> value their labor our labor will be devalued. There's no free lunch.
>
> We are becoming a third world nation. The Reagan era is ending.
- Milton Friedman was wrong about just about
- everything except
- there is no free lunch.
but, But. BUT ! Prez Obama Promised Us A Free Lunch . . .
* Lower Taxes for the Poor
* Higher Taxes for the Rich
* Free Health Care for All
* More {Union} Jobs for Everyone
* People Around the World will Love and
Respect America Again
of Hot Air Sandwiches and Cold Reality Beer ~ RHF
.
~ RHF
> On May 15, 7:27 am, Vide...@tcq.net wrote:
>
> > free trade is dead, its dying as we speak, yet, the g-20 just meet,
> > got down on their hands and knee's, and are still barking and braying
> > about the wonders of the free market, and pledging themselves openly
> > to adhere to the religion, simply amazing.
- After all that has happened I still believe
- we are best served by free trade in fair markets.
? Fair Markets ?
Is China a 'Fair Market ?
And do we the USA Free and Open Access
to to Sell into the Chinese Market ?
- Our economic and military safety is best served
- by shared interests of the masses and control of
- the power elite in every nation.
? control of the power elite ?
Control -by- The Power Elite ?
Control -of- The Power Elite ?
- In my younger years I underestimated the
- impacts of cultural norms and the time it
- takes to change them.
? Cultural Norms ? & "Change"
Without Revolutionary Change about Three
Generations which is roughly 60 Years or
more for a Society to significantly 'change'
Its' Cultural Norms. .
> I wonder how many really hear
> Obama's UofA speech, especially the parts about standards of success.
> I wonder how many around the world dream of one day becoming the
> oppressor rather than the opressed, not thinking about the alternative
> where none are oppressed.
The Leadership of the Power Elite
-=versus=-
The Dictatorship of the Masses
- I still think that when China come fully on line
- things will start getting better even if there are
- other holdouts.
? China comes Fully On-Line ?
The Internet ? -or- Globally ?
- The problem is to find a way to bring them on
- line without destroying the habitat for humans.
Chine will do it better than the USA because the
Chinese will have built many more Newer & Cleaner
Coal Fired Electric Power Plants the The USA
which will build Zero because of the Environmental
Road Block in the USA..
.
.
~ RHF
> On Fri, 15 May 2009 07:27:35 -0700 (PDT), Vide...@tcq.net wrote:
are
- - competing with slave and sweatshop labor, on top of all of the
- - environmental destruction. sooner or later the wage destruction
will
- - come home to roost and demand plunges.
- Unless you do tariffs.
Import Tariffs are the quickest way to a Global Depression.
.
none
We're already there.
~ RHF
www.LayoffRemedy.com ••" <driverservi...@ymail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 15 May 2009 05:27:33 -0700 (PDT),
>
- - Friedman Predicts the Destruction of the Dollar
- Actually, it would be NEAT if the world could adopt
- ONE universal, planetwide currency. Hopefully soon!
First the New World Wide Global Currency won't
be the US Dollar.
Second with the Adoption of a New World Wide
Global Currency the US Dollar will be worth about
Five Cents [5¢] in about 3-Years :
Then indeed {in-fact} the USA will be a Third World
Country with nothing to Sell on the World Market
except Food {Agricultural Goods} .
Americans will be Starving while America's Agricultural
Products are Sold around the World to Nations with
the New World Wide Global Currency to Pay the Price
for them.
Grown in America -will-replace- Made in America
Migration from America will become the Norm
for those with enough New World Wide Global
Currency to pay for the move to a better place
to live.
.
ObamaNomics© Global De-Investment in the USA
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/e28e650a7c21e713
.
The 2009 War on Poverty is a Federal Tax Racket "Porkulus"
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/43bcd6bd00ab945b
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/2cfea52c74c9db8b
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/4b9dcb7eafe8b7e6
.
Why the Obama "Porkulus" Spending Bill is Bad :
The US Housing Bubble Disaster and the Sub-Prime
Credit Debacle Financial Bail-Out Ain't Over !
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/46189c19cac2f70d
.
Obama's Porkulus Bill legislation’s Total Cost is
More than the Entire Cost of the Iraq War since
U.S. Troops Liberated Iraq in 2003.
http://tinyurl.com/d2gm5z
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/5b3d38177ee1f171
.
The US Congress is Short Changing the US Military
by 300K to 500K Personnel
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/81c796d5a58f71e5
.
The Duty {Role} of the US Federal Government :
Provide For The Common Defense -per-
The Constitution of the United States of America
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/913d73cc5fb1270c
.
By Mid-Year of 2009 the US Federal Government Defaults
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.christian/msg/0ce014da0261054f
.
By the Summer of 2009 China and other Foreign Buyers
of US Credit {US Treasury Notes and Bonds} will be
Putting-the-Call and the US Government Will Default.
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/0ce014da0261054f
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.christian/msg/bab31f396a2d30fb
.
>
> -- (¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯) <driverservi...@ymail.com>
>
> http://www.LayoffRemedy.com.com-- Unemployment Solution!
> http://www.ChristianEgalitarian.com-- Fight the RRR Cult!
> http://spifar.blogspot.com-- Tactics: Defending Human Rights
> http://pro-christian.blogspot.com-- Exposing RRR Bigotry
> http://www.shadowandillusion.com-- Learn "The LOPAQUA Secret!"
> http://www.TravelForPay.org-- Learn how to get PAID to TRAVEL!
>
> *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
>
> Employees in Right-to Work States -- DEFEND that Right!!
> Because THIS is what you will be in for if the Loathsome
> "Unionization's Camel's Nose Act" is passed by Congress!
> (Here come the GOONS!!)
>
> It's DECEPTIVELY entitled the "Employees' Free Choice Act."
>
> But it guarantees the OPPOSITE of freedom!
>
> As THIS astute person was kind enough to tell us ---
>
> "I love the pro-union responses! I'm amazed they can
> type such disingenuous drivel with a straight face! I see
> they don't address the fact that the bill allows and encour-
> ages unions to apply unlimited pressure on employees to
> to sign the cards.
>
> "I have the "United Steel Workers of America" union at
> my place and twice now the employees have tried to de-
> certify. The USW sent goons from a number of surround-
> ing states to harass and threaten the employees in person
> at their homes, at all hours of the night and weekends to
> the point that many complained to the National Labor Board
> and a number of them quit. The next round is coming this
> year and the employees seem prepared for a battle. The
> USW sure doesn't want to give up the money they get each
> week for nothing."
>
> -- Buerste" <Buer...@att.com>, 3-15-09
>
> *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
Vid...@tcq.net
> tariffs world wide.
>
> Dogma has no use for history.
you know you are dealing with a fundie/fanatic when they scream for
more of what caused the meltdown in the first place.
zzbu...@netscape.net
> On May 15, 5:27 am, tianmei...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > in his classic book prophetically revealed how 0baMa0's reckless
> > monetary policies will cause hyperinflation and destroy our nation
> >https://www.newsmaxstore.com/nm_mag/free_mischief.cfm?PROMO_CODE=7FD4-1
>
> Milton Freidman coined the phrase "there's no such thing as a free
> lunch."
> I live by that phrase. Milton Friedman's other philosophies screwed
> up
> several economies. People are worried about
But, since it's mostly 19th Century media people who live by such
jingo philosophy,
rather than modern computer and technology people, that's also why
GPS, Digital Terrain Mapping, Holographics, MP3, MPEG, XML, Fiber
Optics,
Cell Phones, Optical Computers, Distributed Processing, On-Line
Publishing,
USB, Thermo-Electric Cooling, and Self-Replicating Machines where
built for the spoon
benders who think there is no such thing as a free lunch
hyperinflationhttp://catalog.usmint.gov/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CategoryDisplay?c...
Gary Forbis
wrote:
> On May 15, 9:02 am, Gary Forbis <forbisga...@msn.com> wrote:
> > Milton Freidman coined the phrase "there's no such thing as a free
> > lunch." I live by that phrase. Milton Friedman's other philosophies
> > screwed up several economies.
>
> jingo philosophy, rather than modern computer and technology
> people, that's also why GPS, Digital Terrain Mapping,
> Holographics, MP3, MPEG, XML, Fiber Optics, Cell Phones,
> Optical Computers, Distributed Processing, On-Line Publishing,
> USB, Thermo-Electric Cooling, and Self-Replicating Machines where
> built for the spoon benders who think there is no such thing as
> a free lunch
Even the people building these things know there's no such thing
as a free lunch. They use the term enthropy to identify the concept.
None the less we still have air conditioners and heat pumps. Some
silly people might only have a focus inside their air conditioned room
and think "Yup, there is too a free lunch. It's hot out there and
cool
in here and yet I can make it colder by turning this dial."
Gary Forbis
I have no problem with tariffs used to make trade fair. In order
to make sure they are used in that way the tariffs need to be
used to mitigate the reason for their application in the nation
agaisnt which they are applied.
tianm...@gmail.com
> The late, great Milton Friedmanhttp://www.ideachannel.tv/
> in his classic book prophetically revealed how 0baMa0's reckless
> monetary policies will cause hyperinflation and destroy our nationhttps://www.newsmaxstore.com/nm_mag/free_mischief.cfm?PROMO_CODE=7FD4-1
WOW! Reading the imbicilic responses in this thread only reinforces
where our economy is headed. Fair Warning - 0baMa0's old "New Deal"
will make this reccession run deeper and will last far longer than
anyone had anticipated.
Good luck people! Your children will certainly need far more than
luck. They will be forced to learn the hardest way of all - through
death and destruction while on the Socialist's Road to Serfdom.
Remember this little boys and girls, from the experiences of a very
old, old world man, Gold is King under the grip of Liberal Fascist
Socialists everywhere. The Gold will get you into and out of any
country you choose to reside. Better than any passport. Finally -
teach your children well - Home School!
Every Free Man for himself - see you on the "other side" - CIAO!
Clave
news:5c2s05dvmtjak85ro...@4ax.com...
<...>
> These new emerging findings are blowing common economic thought out of
> the water. People are not rational and do not pursue their best
> interests. They can be and are manipulated against their own economic
> interests.
Case in point, poor people who vote Republican.
Jim
Gary Forbis
wrote:
> <retrogro...@comcast.net> wrote in message
I don't consider that a free lunch. The poor pay
heavily for their acts in voting Republican.
Clave
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==================================================================
His point was that it's the people paying attention to and manipulating the
predictably irrational who are in line for the free lunch.
Jim
dave
> rest of us are.
>
> Until eventually they're out of power.
Eat the rich; they're well marbled.
Vid...@tcq.net
wrote:
> <retrogro...@comcast.net> wrote in message
correct.
Beam Me Up Scotty
> "Gary Forbis" <forbi...@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:8ab000b0-5674-447e...@y6g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> On May 15, 5:47 pm, "Clave" <ClaviusNoSpamDam...@cablespeed.com>
> wrote:
>> <retrogro...@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>
>> news:5c2s05dvmtjak85ro...@4ax.com...
>>
>> <...>
>>
>>> These new emerging findings are blowing common economic thought out of
>>> the water. People are not rational and do not pursue their best
>>> interests. They can be and are manipulated against their own economic
>>> interests.
>> Case in point, poor people who vote Republican.
>
> I don't consider that a free lunch. The poor pay
> heavily for their acts in voting Republican.
> ==================================================================
Maybe they see long term, rather than your short term view that got us
here. Everyone gets a house, who cares who pays.... right.
Beam Me Up Scotty
be paid.
Clave
"Beam Me Up Scotty" <Then-Destroy-Everything@Talk-n-Dog..com> wrote in
message news:8qpPl.41604$9a.2...@bignews1.bellsouth.net...
> Clave wrote:
>> "Gary Forbis" <forbi...@msn.com> wrote in message
>> news:8ab000b0-5674-447e...@y6g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>> On May 15, 5:47 pm, "Clave" <ClaviusNoSpamDam...@cablespeed.com>
>> wrote:
>>> <retrogro...@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>
>>> news:5c2s05dvmtjak85ro...@4ax.com...
>>>
>>> <...>
>>>
>>>> These new emerging findings are blowing common economic thought out of
>>>> the water. People are not rational and do not pursue their best
>>>> interests. They can be and are manipulated against their own economic
>>>> interests.
>>> Case in point, poor people who vote Republican.
>>
>> I don't consider that a free lunch. The poor pay
>> heavily for their acts in voting Republican.
>> ==================================================================
>
> Maybe they see long term, rather than your short term view that got us
> here. Everyone gets a house, who cares who pays.... right.
What in the freaking hell are you bibbling about?
Jim
Clave
"Beam Me Up Scotty" <Then-Destroy-Everything@Talk-n-Dog..com> wrote in
Wow. Your clueshield is stronger than I've seen in a long time.
MilSpec, perhaps?
Jim
Telamon
"Clave" <ClaviusNo...@cablespeed.com> wrote:
That's the Democrap's you clowns with the promise of the free lunch
through the redistribution of wealth. The Obominator is your man on the
job.
--
Telamon
Ventura, California
Gary Forbis
<telamon_spamshi...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote:
> In article <Vpidndeqha4ljJPXnZ2dnUVZ_oidn...@cablespeedmi.com>,
>
>
>
>
>
> "Clave" <ClaviusNoSpamDam...@cablespeed.com> wrote:
> > "Gary Forbis" <forbisga...@msn.com> wrote in message
> >news:8ab000b0-5674-447e...@y6g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> > On May 15, 5:47 pm, "Clave" <ClaviusNoSpamDam...@cablespeed.com>
> > wrote:
> > > <retrogro...@comcast.net> wrote in message
>
> > >news:5c2s05dvmtjak85ro...@4ax.com...
>
> > > <...>
>
> > > > These new emerging findings are blowing common economic thought out of
> > > > the water. People are not rational and do not pursue their best
> > > > interests. They can be and are manipulated against their own economic
> > > > interests.
>
> > > Case in point, poor people who vote Republican.
>
> > I don't consider that a free lunch. The poor pay
> > heavily for their acts in voting Republican.
> > ==================================================================
>
> > His point was that it's the people paying attention to and manipulating the
> > predictably irrational who are in line for the free lunch.
>
> That's the Democrap's you clowns with the promise of the free lunch
> through the redistribution of wealth. The Obominator is your man on the
> job.
Recovery of stollen goods is also "redistribution of wealth".
None the less his point wasn't about promises but actions.
There's no such thing as a free lunch. Just because you
didn't pay for it doesn't mean it was free. Milton's use of
the adage was different than mine. Milton's use was more
along the lines that if one is offered something for free one
should check the fine print. Mine is to observe shifted
costs.
I don't support the notion of a right to healthcare but I
think preventitive healthcare is cheaper than emergency
care that could have been prevented and if we are going
to pay for emergency care that could have been prevented
then we should reduce our costs by preventing the problem
in the first place.
Clave
====================================================================
Right -- words mean what you want them to mean, no more and no less.
I don't know which of the two of you is more incoherent.
Jim
dave
??? WTF???
That old guy from Countrywide is a liberal? How do you know?
dave
>>
> That's the Democrap's you clowns with the promise of the free lunch
> through the redistribution of wealth. The Obominator is your man on the
> job.
>
Then why do the red states get more tax money per capita than the blue
states? Defense spending is redistribution too.
obamao.sux....@gmail.com
>
> Eat the rich; they're well marbled.
>
Eat your parents - 0baMa0 Tse Dung would be proud!
Liberal Fascist Socialism is, afterall, Canibalism - Bon Appetit!
obamao.sux....@gmail.com
> On Fri, 15 May 2009 16:30:07 -0700 (PDT), Gary Forbis
>
> <forbisga...@msn.com> wrote:
> >On May 15, 3:19 pm, "zzbun...@netscape.net" <zzbun...@netscape.net>
> >wrote:
> >> On May 15, 9:02 am, Gary Forbis <forbisga...@msn.com> wrote:
> >> > Milton Freidman coined the phrase "there's no such thing as a free
> >> > lunch." I live by that phrase. Milton Friedman's other philosophies
> >> > screwed up several economies.
>
>
> The assumption that people are rational and act in their best
> interests is demonstrably false.
>
> Read for example:
>
> "Predictably Irrational"http://www.amazon.com/Predictably-Irrational-Hidden-Forces-Decisions/...
>
> Read also:
> Sway: The Irresistible Pull of Irrational Behaviorhttp://www.amazon.com/Sway-Irresistible-Pull-Irrational-Behavior/dp/0...
>
> People can be expected to act irrationally - and with knowledge you
> can predict when and how and take advantage of it - producing the
> "free lunch".
>
> These new emerging findings are blowing common economic thought out of
> the water. People are not rational and do not pursue their best
> interests. They can be and are manipulated against their own economic
> interests.
And so, to replace the free will and irrational exhuberance of free
choice, rational or irrational, you expect to replace it with what?
0baMa0 Tse Dung - bwaHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...!!!
Road to Serfdom = LIBERAL FASCISM > SOCIALISM > COMMUNISM - make
everyone Serfs of the State.
Welcome to North Korea!
obamao.sux....@gmail.com
> On May 15, 5:27 am, tianmei...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > The late, great Milton Friedmanhttp://www.ideachannel.tv/
> > in his classic book prophetically revealed how 0baMa0's reckless
> > monetary policies will cause hyperinflation and destroy our nation
> >https://www.newsmaxstore.com/nm_mag/free_mischief.cfm?PROMO_CODE=7FD4-1
>
> lunch."
> I live by that phrase. Milton Friedman's other philosophies screwed
> up
>
> Production of United States Mint American Eagle Gold Proof
> and Uncirculated Coins has been temporarily suspended because
> of unprecedented demand for American Eagle Gold Bullion Coins.
>
> Bush's administration more than doubled the money base during
> his last year in office. Production didn't double, infact the economy
> was contracting. I wonder where the money is going that we don't
> already have huge inflation. None the less, I don't blame Obama
> for this problem. Government spending itself doesn't cause inflation.
> Inflation is too much money chasing too few goods. If the money
> isn't chasing the goods there won't be inflation.
>
> US productive capacity has been sidelined. It's being dismantled.
> There isn't enough money in the system to support our production.
> As long as we are in a global system where other nations do not
> value their labor our labor will be devalued. There's no free lunch.
>
> We are becoming a third world nation. The Reagan era is ending.
> Milton Friedman was wrong about just about everything except
> there is no free lunch.
How can that be when the U.S. economy is far, far and away larger than
ANY third world country by far far far.
0baMa0 Tse Dung has expanded government spending faster in the first
six months of his diktatorship than President Bush did during his 8
(eight) year presidency. Irrational 0baMa0 exhuberance has erased many
brain cells.
The U.S. economy is till today, right now, this moment, larger than
the E.U. Larger than China. Larger than India.
AND almost larger than China and India COMBINED! That's over
3,000,000,000 people competing with 300,000,000 people.
That is a factor of 10:1! AND to top it all off, the U.S. blows China
and India, any third world nation, out of the water in energy
efficiency.
China produces more green house gases per GDP than the U.S. by far, BY
FAR.
Don't tell the Liberal Fascisti Socialist Greenies that their anti-
Capitalist propaganda lies are a well known facade.
They are anti-American, anti-Freedom and Pro Neo-Commie.
There is not one successful Socialist/Communist economy in the history
of the world. The Neo-Commies can never erase this fact:
http://www.globalmuseumoncommunism.org/
There is a very good reason why people risk, and have lost their lives
in attempts to escape Liberal Fascist/Socialist/Communist regimes the
world over.
Nazi Germany,USSR, Cuba, China, North Korea, Burma, Vietnam, Laos,
Cambodia,...
Free Markets = Free Choice = FREEDOM! Neo-Commies can never compete
with that!
obamao.sux....@gmail.com
> tianmei...@gmail.com wrote:
> > The late, great Milton Friedmanhttp://www.ideachannel.tv/
> > in his classic book prophetically revealed how 0baMa0's reckless
> > monetary policies will cause hyperinflation and destroy our nation
> >https://www.newsmaxstore.com/nm_mag/free_mischief.cfm?PROMO_CODE=7FD4-1
>
> Chairman Mao.
Hell will seem like paradise where you are headed..
obamao.sux....@gmail.com
Because employees in Blue States pay more State and local taxes thus
paying less Federal taxes. Therefor, Blue States receive less Fedaral
Tax money.
Ask your boss, Mrs. Huffington Post, to spin that one for your
response.
obamao.sux....@gmail.com
> 0baMa0 Tse Dung has expanded government spending faster in the first
> (eight) year presidency.
Beam Me Up Scotty
"Liberal, Fascist, Socialist" are eating their young.... one trillion
dollars at a time.
dave
I'm already in paradise, thank-you very much.
Vid...@tcq.net
<telamon_spamshi...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote:
> In article <Vpidndeqha4ljJPXnZ2dnUVZ_oidn...@cablespeedmi.com>,
>
>
>
> "Clave" <ClaviusNoSpamDam...@cablespeed.com> wrote:
> >news:8ab000b0-5674-447e...@y6g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> > On May 15, 5:47 pm, "Clave" <ClaviusNoSpamDam...@cablespeed.com>
> > wrote:
> > > <retrogro...@comcast.net> wrote in message
>
> > >news:5c2s05dvmtjak85ro...@4ax.com...
>
> > > <...>
>
> > > > These new emerging findings are blowing common economic thought out of
> > > > the water. People are not rational and do not pursue their best
> > > > interests. They can be and are manipulated against their own economic
> > > > interests.
>
> > > Case in point, poor people who vote Republican.
>
> > I don't consider that a free lunch. The poor pay
> > heavily for their acts in voting Republican.
> > ==================================================================
>
> > His point was that it's the people paying attention to and manipulating the
> > predictably irrational who are in line for the free lunch.
>
> That's the Democrap's you clowns with the promise of the free lunch
> through the redistribution of wealth. The Obominator is your man on the
> job.
>
we already have had a massive redistribution of wealth, its called
trickle down, or supply side economics. the largest swindle in the
history of america, and its left us broke, unable to service our debt,
we can no longer consume, you are a idiot.
> --
> Telamon
> Ventura, California
Gary Forbis
> On May 16, 7:30 am, dave <d...@dave.dave> wrote:
> > Then why do the red states get more tax money per capita than the blue
> > states? Defense spending is redistribution too.
>
> Because employees in Blue States pay more State and local taxes thus
> paying less Federal taxes. Therefor, Blue States receive less Fedaral
> Tax money.
You're just wrong about federal taxes.
Data from http://www.taxfoundation.org/research/show/22685.html
who got it from the Federal Government.
Here's the 2005 sugar dadies:
State, Recieved per dollar spent, 2004 vote, 2008 vote.
New Jersey, 0.61, Blue, Blue
Nevada, 0.65, Red, Blue
Connecticut, 0.69, Blue, Blue
New Hampshire, 0.71, Blue, Blue
Minnesota, 0.72, Blue, Blue
Illinois, 0.75, Blue, Blue
Deleware, 0.77, Blue, Blue
California, 0.78, Blue, Blue
New York, 0.79, Blue, Blue
Colorado, 0.81, Red, Blue
Massachusetts, 0.82, Blue, Blue
Wisconsin, 0.86, Blue, Blue
Washington, 0.88, Blue, Blue
Michigan, 0.92, Blue, Blue
Oregon, 0.93, Blue, Blue
Texas, 0.94, Red, Red
Florida, 0.97, Red, Blue
Rhode Island broke even, blue in both elections.
The welfare queens:
District of Columbia, 5.55, Blue, Blue
New Mexico, 2.03, Red, Blue
Mississippi, 2.02, Red, Red
Alaska, 1.84, Red, Red
Louisiana, 1.78, Red, Red
West Verginia, 1.76, Red, Red
North Dakota, 1.68, Red, Red
Alabama, 1.66, Red, Red
South Dakota, 1.53, Red, Red
Kentucky, 1.51, Red, Red
Virginia, 1.51, Red, Blue
Montana, 1.47, Red, Red
Hawaii, 1.44, Blue, Blue
Arkansas, 1.41, Red, Red
Maine, 1.41, Blue, Blue
Oklahoma, 1.36, Red, Red
South Carolina, 1.35, Red, Red
Missouri, 1.32, Red, Red
Maryland, 1.30, Blue, Blue
Tennessee, 1.27, Red, Red
Idaho, 1.21, Red, Red
Arizona, 1.19, Red, Red
Kansas, 1.12, Red, Red
Wyoming, 1.11, Red, Red
Iowa, 1.10, Red, Blue
Nebraska, 1.10, Red, Red
North Carolina, 1.08, Red, Blue
Vermont, 1.08, Blue, Blue
Pennsylvania, 1.07, Blue, Blue
Utah, 1.07, Red, Red
Indiana, 1.05, Red, Blue
Ohio, 1.05, Red, Blue
Georgia, 1.01, Red, Red
obamao.sux....@gmail.com
> On May 16, 6:29 am, obamao.sux.donki.dix...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > On May 16, 7:30 am, dave <d...@dave.dave> wrote:
> > > Then why do the red states get more tax money per capita than the blue
> > > states? Defense spending is redistribution too.
>
> > Because employees in Blue States pay more State and local taxes thus
> > paying less Federal taxes. Therefor, Blue States receive less Fedaral
> > Tax money.
>
> You're just wrong about federal taxes.
You're just regurgitating what infant Dr.DaviD just burped.
I guess we'll have to wait until you learn how to read.
obamao.sux....@gmail.com
Yeah, now find a job and get off that sleep disorder disability
paycheck you teet sucker!
obamao.sux....@gmail.com
> On Sat, 16 May 2009 00:40:18 -0700 (PDT), Gary Forbis
>
> <forbisga...@msn.com> wrote:
>
> >There's no such thing as a free lunch. Just because you
> >didn't pay for it doesn't mean it was free. Milton's use of
> >the adage was different than mine. Milton's use was more
> >along the lines that if one is offered something for free one
> >should check the fine print. Mine is to observe shifted
> >costs.
>
> I know you don't mind challenging your dogma a bit.
If the price is Free you can be sure a Slave paid for it.
Vid...@tcq.net
you just defined free market economics.
~ RHF
wrote:
> <retrogro...@comcast.net> wrote in message
>
> news:5c2s05dvmtjak85ro...@4ax.com...
>
> <...>
>
> > These new emerging findings are blowing common economic thought out of
> > the water. People are not rational and do not pursue their best
> > interests. They can be and are manipulated against their own economic
> > interests.
>
-
- Jim
Conversely :
Rich People Who Vote Liberal-Democrat {Socialist}.
~ RHF
.
~ RHF
- If the price is Free you can be sure a Slave paid for it.
What You Think You Receive Free Today :
Often Costs You Dearly In The Future.
.
~ RHF
> On May 16, 6:29 am, obamao.sux.donki.dix...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > On May 16, 7:30 am, dave <d...@dave.dave> wrote:
> > > Then why do the red states get more tax money per capita than the blue
> > > states? Defense spending is redistribution too.
>
> > Because employees in Blue States pay more State and local taxes thus
> > paying less Federal taxes. Therefor, Blue States receive less Fedaral
> > Tax money.
>
> You're just wrong about federal taxes.
> who got it from the Federal Government.
>
> Here's the 2005 sugar dadies:
> State, Recieved per dollar spent, 2004 vote, 2008 vote.
> New Jersey, 0.61, Blue, Blue
> Nevada, 0.65, Red, Blue
> Connecticut, 0.69, Blue, Blue
> New Hampshire, 0.71, Blue, Blue
> Minnesota, 0.72, Blue, Blue
> Illinois, 0.75, Blue, Blue
> Deleware, 0.77, Blue, Blue
- California, 0.78, Blue, Blue
That's a short fall of $50B per Year in US
Federal Spending in the State of California
and that results in $5B of State Tax Revenue.
This has been going on for 12 or more Years
and is one of the Reasons for California's
current Budget Problems.
12 Years X $50B = $600B Ripoff by the
US Federal Government.
12 Years X $5B = $60B in California State
Taxes not being able to be Collected.
tianm...@gmail.com
>
> > If the price is Free you can be sure a Slave paid for it.
>
> you just defined free market economics.
>
You just showcased your ignoramus Public School education.
The poster defined Socialist/Communist economics - Serf of the State.
Beam Me Up Scotty
don't know it....
Vid...@tcq.net
you mean when western capitalists sign free trade agreements with
communist china, and allow the communists to own 51% of the factory.
and where the western capitalists turn over all of their manufacturing
secrets, and proprietary property to take advantage of slave/sweatshop
labor, and then import those communists/socialists products into the
u.s.a., that then undercuts american production, and drives america
deep into debt for their own short term gain.
is that the serf state you are speaking of, because they are free to
do so:)
Beam Me Up Scotty
Vid...@tcq.net
Dog..com> wrote:
sorry, another seminar is not what america needs. i could only get so
far into it. i have heard that hucksterism to long, america swallowed
it lock stock and barrel.
dave
Sounds like a preacher.
Gary Forbis
While I was going to let this go--It's futile to argue against
stupidity--I think I'll help you out.
You wrote:
Because employees in Blue States pay more State and
local taxes thus paying less Federal taxes. Therefor,
Blue States receive less Fedaral Tax money.
What is your measure of "more state and local taxes"?
Do you understand that per capita is the only meaningful
meansure for comparison between states? Otherwise you're
wrong on the face of it because California and New York,
two blue states, pay the most federal taxes due to their
population alone.
The figures above show states that pay more per capita
in federal taxes than they recieve are usually blue and
those who recieve more than they pay are usually red.
I don't know but suspect the highest cost of living states
are mostly blue states and the lowest red so even in
absolute numbers the red states are welfare queens.
Rather than being rugged individualists the red states
are the tax whores who can't make it on their own.
Beam Me Up Scotty
Beam Me Up Scotty
I think they move up and down the spectrum and it is Sunday today.
Listen on a week day and they never bring any religious overtones.
Vid...@tcq.net
Dog..com> wrote:
> dave wrote:
> > Beam Me Up Scotty wrote:
>
> >>> do so:)
>
>
> > Sounds like a preacher.
>
> Capitalism is a "way of life".
capitalism is a system that can comfortably reside with in any
system. its a system where you can leave your brains, morals, and what
make us humans behind. and its always doomed to failure if its left
onto its own
what really makes capitalism work, is when you use your brains,
morals, and what makes us a whole human being with all of the usual
goodies such as empathy, pity, remorse, ethics, and yes, morals.
m II
>
> Liberal Fascist Socialism
You do the Oxymoronic Society a great service by your public displays of
their work.
How did you manage to tie together three such disparate philosophies?
The Atheists for Religion would be pleased to have you as a member.
mike
dave
Capitalism without regulation is the same as a malignant tumor; an
entity that keeps growing until it kills its host.
Vid...@tcq.net
capitalism will eat its seed corn, eat its youth, and will do
everything in its power to destroy demand(wages), and it looks like it
was successful again.
tv
> On Fri, 15 May 2009 16:30:07 -0700 (PDT), Gary Forbis
>
> <forbisga...@msn.com> wrote:
> >On May 15, 3:19 pm, "zzbun...@netscape.net" <zzbun...@netscape.net>
> >wrote:
> >> On May 15, 9:02 am, Gary Forbis <forbisga...@msn.com> wrote:
> >> > Milton Freidman coined the phrase "there's no such thing as a free
> >> > lunch." I live by that phrase. Milton Friedman's other philosophies
> >> > screwed up several economies.
>
> That assumption has long ago been proved false by social economists.
>
> The assumption that people are rational and act in their best
> interests is demonstrably false.
>
> Read for example:
>
> "Predictably Irrational"http://www.amazon.com/Predictably-Irrational-Hidden-Forces-Decisions/...
>
> Read also:
> Sway: The Irresistible Pull of Irrational Behaviorhttp://www.amazon.com/Sway-Irresistible-Pull-Irrational-Behavior/dp/0...
>
> People can be expected to act irrationally - and with knowledge you
> can predict when and how and take advantage of it - producing the
> "free lunch".
>
> These new emerging findings are blowing common economic thought out of
> the water. People are not rational and do not pursue their best
> interests. They can be and are manipulated against their own economic
> interests.
After 12 years of Obama this country will be so dumbed down they'll
think that shit is ice cream. Free health care will be no health
care.
All deviant behavior will be the norm by definition.
You wanted change? You got it. Enjoy yourself.
Beam Me Up Scotty
> On May 17, 11:03 am, Beam Me Up Scotty <Then-Destroy-Everything@Talk-n-
> Dog..com> wrote:
>> dave wrote:
>>> Beam Me Up Scotty wrote:
>>>>> do so:)
>>> Sounds like a preacher.
>> Capitalism is a "way of life".
>
> capitalism is a system that can comfortably reside with in any
> system. its a system where you can leave your brains, morals, and what
> make us humans behind. and its always doomed to failure if its left
> onto its own
> what really makes capitalism work, is when you use your brains,
> morals, and what makes us a whole human being with all of the usual
> goodies such as empathy, pity, remorse, ethics, and yes, morals.
What you are saying is that Liberalism and Socialism, when mixed with
Capitalism is a deadly Sin.....
tv
> On May 15, 5:47 pm, "Clave" <ClaviusNoSpamDam...@cablespeed.com>
> wrote:
>
> > <retrogro...@comcast.net> wrote in message
>
> >news:5c2s05dvmtjak85ro...@4ax.com...
>
> > <...>
>
> > > the water. People are not rational and do not pursue their best
> > > interests. They can be and are manipulated against their own economic
> > > interests.
>
>
> heavily for their acts in voting Republican.
Did those poor people vote for Dodd, Frank and Pelosi? I doubt it.
Liberals always blame the poor for all the problems. I blame the rich
Democrats.
Beam Me Up Scotty
And yet it took Obama to get America to eat their young.
Beam Me Up Scotty
And yet we have watched Socialism and Communism and Fascism and
dictators *IMPLODE* before our capitalist eyes.
--
http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/mini.cgi?station_name=freecapitalist&tm=7031&from=rma
http://Outsourcednews.net
After 40 years of *Liberals* mired down in a war on poverty, with no end
in site and no *exit strategy* or plan for *redeployment* ....here we
are. - Talk-n-Dog -
Beam Me Up Scotty
Liberal-Progressives are running a war against the poor. Look at their
attempts at eugenics in the neighborhoods of the poor. The Progressives
have propagandized their plans to control lives of the poor, beginning
with the family and children. Progressives have convinced the poor that
they are incapable of making decisions for themselves.
(�`�.�Craig Chilton�.���) �� WHY be Unemployed? www.LayoffRemedy.com ��
"~ RHF" <rhf-new...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> (�`�.�Craig Chilton�.���) �� WHY be Unemployed?
> <www.LayoffRemedy.com> ��" wrote:
>> tianmei...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> Friedman Predicts the Destruction of the Dollar
>> � Actually, it would be NEAT if the world could adopt
>> ONE universal, planetwide currency. �Hopefully soon!
> First the New World Wide Global Currency won't
> be the US Dollar.
>
> Second with the Adoption of a New World Wide
> Global Currency the US Dollar will be worth about
> Five Cents [5�] in about 3-Years :
>
> Then indeed {in-fact} the USA will be a Third World
> Country with nothing to Sell on the World Market
> except Food {Agricultural Goods} .
>
> Americans will be Starving while America's Agricultural
> Products are Sold around the World to Nations with
> the New World Wide Global Currency to Pay the Price
> for them.
>
> Grown in America -will-replace- Made in America
>
> Migration from America will become the Norm
> for those with enough New World Wide Global
> Currency to pay for the move to a better place
> to live.
Interesting scenario, albeit gloomy.
But I don't think we'll ever get to see how a single.
worldwide, currency works out. Too much desire for
various types of sovereignty on the part of nations.
The EU isn't really ONE country, like the USA is.
And Britain kept the pound, rather than adopting
the Euro.
Not enough unity of thought out there.
If there's ever a single planetary currency, I doubt
if it'll happen within the next 50 years.
And if it takes that long, I'd have to reach 117 in
order to see it.
So much for MY wish. :)
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Employees in Right-to Work States -- DEFEND that Right!!
Because THIS is what you will be in for if the Loathsome
"Unionization's Camel's Nose Act" is passed by Congress!
(Here come the GOONS!!)
It's DECEPTIVELY entitled the "Employees' Free Choice Act."
But it guarantees the OPPOSITE of freedom!
As THIS astute person was kind enough to tell us ---
"I love the pro-union responses! I'm amazed they can
type such disingenuous drivel with a straight face! I see
they don't address the fact that the bill allows and encour-
ages unions to apply unlimited pressure on employees to
to sign the cards.
"I have the "United Steel Workers of America" union at
my place and twice now the employees have tried to de-
certify. The USW sent goons from a number of surround-
ing states to harass and threaten the employees in person
at their homes, at all hours of the night and weekends to
the point that many complained to the National Labor Board
and a number of them quit. The next round is coming this
year and the employees seem prepared for a battle. The
USW sure doesn't want to give up the money they get each
week for nothing."
-- Buerste" <Bue...@att.com>, 3-15-09
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Beam Me Up Scotty
Liberal-Progressives are running a war against the poor. Look at their
attempts at eugenics in the neighborhoods of the poor. The Progressives
have propagandized their plans to control lives of the poor, beginning
with the family and children. Progressives have convinced the poor that
they are incapable of making decisions for themselves.
Progressives are selling the idea that fathers are the problem and offer
the women and children a way to get rid of and avoid evil fathers. Low
and behold there are more divorces and more unwed moms.
Everyone thank the Progressives.
Clave
"Beam Me Up Scotty" <Then-Destroy-Everything@Talk-n-Dog..com> wrote in
message news:4h5Ql.42857$b9....@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
> tv wrote:
>> On May 15, 5:58 pm, Gary Forbis <forbisga...@msn.com> wrote:
>>> On May 15, 5:47 pm, "Clave" <ClaviusNoSpamDam...@cablespeed.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> <retrogro...@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:5c2s05dvmtjak85ro...@4ax.com...
>>>> <...>
>>>>> These new emerging findings are blowing common economic thought out of
>>>>> the water. People are not rational and do not pursue their best
>>>>> interests. They can be and are manipulated against their own economic
>>>>> interests.
>>>> Case in point, poor people who vote Republican.
>>> I don't consider that a free lunch. The poor pay
>>> heavily for their acts in voting Republican.
>>
>> Did those poor people vote for Dodd, Frank and Pelosi? I doubt it.
>> Liberals always blame the poor for all the problems. I blame the rich
>> Democrats.
>
> Liberal-Progressives are running a war against the poor. Look at their
Wow -- your ass sure is talky tonight.
Jim
zzbu...@netscape.net
> On May 15, 3:19 pm, "zzbun...@netscape.net" <zzbun...@netscape.net>
> wrote:
>
> > On May 15, 9:02 am, Gary Forbis <forbisga...@msn.com> wrote:
> > > Milton Freidman coined the phrase "there's no such thing as a free
> > > lunch." I live by that phrase. Milton Friedman's other philosophies
> > > screwed up several economies.
>
> > jingo philosophy, rather than modern computer and technology
> > people, that's also why GPS, Digital Terrain Mapping,
> > Holographics, MP3, MPEG, XML, Fiber Optics, Cell Phones,
> > Optical Computers, Distributed Processing, On-Line Publishing,
> > USB, Thermo-Electric Cooling, and Self-Replicating Machines where
> > built for the spoon benders who think there is no such thing as
> > a free lunch
>
> Even the people building these things know there's no such thing
> as a free lunch. They use the term enthropy to identify the concept.
But, since that crap from physics, and is 300 years old, it's
also why the their Chemists, and the the real engineers work on
Thermo-Electric Cooling,
Microwave Cooling, C++, Distributed Processing, post Wal-Mart
Batteries,
Optical Computers, Light Sticks, DVD-rom, CD-rw, USB, HDTV
debugging,
On-Line Banking, On-Line Shopping, On-Line Publishing, Holography,
Autonomous Vehicles, Digital-Terrain Mapping, and GPS for the
entropy cranks anyway.
> None the less we still have air conditioners and heat pumps. Some
> silly people might only have a focus inside their air conditioned room
> and think "Yup, there is too a free lunch. It's hot out there and
> cool
> in here and yet I can make it colder by turning this dial."
Gary Forbis
Not even reversable computing gets you to 100% efficiency let
alone beyond it. Maxwell's Deamons must haunt your brain.
There's no such thing as a free lunch.
Many years ago Eric Drexler came up with the coinage
"nanotechnology". In his book he talked about population
growth and standard of living. While we have made some
inroads into the third dimension for the most part humans
live on the surface of the world. Our population is a primarily
a function of the volume of space we inhabit and the quality
of that space to support our life. We're reaching the limits
of this world but we are also learning how to move beyond
this world. As some point the quality of the space we enhabit
will, while still being clumped, average to a point where
population grow with mostly be a function of the space we
enhabit. We ehnabit the sphere of space, making population
of growth a cube function but we expand into new territory
at the surface, making expansion a square function.
Even hearing this, one of the ladies at nanocon 1 saw
the benefit of eternal life through nanotechnology was to
mother more and more children.
For all of the benefits of technology, unless we change
the psyche of those who would be fruitful and multiply
we will see a contraction of our standard of living.
One of the Professors I talked to at Nanocon 1 addressed
the issue by saying some humans will have to be left
behind and that at Cambridge he stepped over the bums
sleeping in the entrances to the buildings and panhandling
when awake.
What good is all the technology if when I see my family
nake but I cannot clothe them and hungry but I cannot
feed them. Should it matter to me that their (and mine)
hell is of their own making? I will not abandon my family.
There's no such thing as a free lunch.
Ala
"dave" <da...@dave.dave> wrote in message
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when not being stupid
is not enough
when not being wrong
is not enough
waited such a long time
have I waited too long?
in a world that's so bad
it's not hard to feel good
you do what you have to
not as much as you could
just because you're not wrong
doesn't mean that you're right when not being stupid
is not enough
when not being evil
is not enough
you look all around you
never look up at the stars
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