Listen for yourself:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hdi4onAQBWQ
Obama: I’ll make energy prices “skyrocket”
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/11/02/obama-ill-make-energy-prices-skyrocket/
> NewsBusters posted this January 2008 audio in which Obama promised a
> San Franciso audience he will bankrupt the coal industry.
>
> http://newsbusters.org/blogs/p-j-gladnick/2008/11/02/hidden-audio-obama-tells-
> sf-chronicle-he-will-bankrupt-coal-industry
>
> Listen for yourself:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hdi4onAQBWQ
>
> Obama: Išll make energy prices łskyrocket˛
>
> http://hotair.com/archives/2008/11/02/obama-ill-make-energy-prices-skyrocket/
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTi7JOU8YzY
It's amazing how this exists in video and audio on the web and people
just refuse to even look at it or if they do they say it is "out of
context".
It was always my hope that the Internet would be a tool to educate the
masses but it sure does not seem to work for the subject of politics.
I've read excerpts of O-bla-ma's book on the web. It's a real eye
opener. I think everyone that considers voting for him should first read
his book.
--
Telamon
Ventura, California
US Coal Miner Jobs = 80K+
US Coal Energy Jobs = 60K+
US Coal Transportation Jobs = 30K+
Roughly 170K "Dirt' Jobs that Obama would Eliminate
buy Attacking the Clean Coal Energy Bussiness.
Americans can 'choose' Clean Coal or Dirty Arab Oil.
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http://www.usasurvival.org/obama.html
Naïve, foolish, ignorant of facts, unrealistically idealistic,
dreamers, willfully in denial or deceptive. They hail from the ranks
of the chronically unhappy, the anarchists, the aspiring
revolutionaries, the neurotics who are at war with life, the
disaffected alienated from government, corporations, and just about
any and all institutions of society.
Derives satisfaction from being anti-establishment. He finds perverse
gratification in aiding the forces that aim to dismantle an existing
order, whatever it may be: an order he neither approves of nor he
feels he belongs to.
He is conflicted and dishonest. He fails to look inside himself and
discover the causes of his own problems and unhappiness while he
readily enlists himself in causes that validate his distorted
perception.
He is a master practitioner of scapegoating. He assigns blame to
others while absolving himself of responsibility, has a long handy
list of candidates for blaming anything and everything, and by living
a distorted life, he contributes to the ills of society.
He may even engage in willful misinformation and deception when it
suits him.
He is a useful Imbecile - He is "0"bama"0"
>
> Americans can 'choose' Clean Coal or Dirty Arab Oil.
> .
Clean coal is an oxymoron. Until they sequester the CO2 there's nothing
clean about it.
We don't need Arab oil, either. We should take advantage of the slow
economy and retool our country to run in a more sustainable fashion.
Dave glad to see that you are willing to
WALK down the Highway of Life : Just stay
on the edge of the Road so all of the
Hybrid SUVs don't run you over.
It is better to spend a Billion Dollars
on Clean Coal and the Creation of Jobs
for Americans : Then to continue to Spend
$250 Billion for Imported Oil.
Clean Coal is an integral part of both a
Short Term and a Long Term US National
Energy Plan to get-to Energy Independence.
NOTE - US Coal is 70% Cleaner Today than it was
in 1970, based on the Regulated Pollutants per
Unit of Energy produced KW/MW in Electric Power
Plants; and more is being done each year to
make Coal a Clear Fuel.
-ps- Work with what you 'got' and build on it :
Coal + Hydro + Natural Gas + Oil + Wind + Solar
it takes all fuels to power a nation ~ RHF
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CO2 sequestration was in the mix with the now 'on hold' FutureGen
project. It was all set to go until the Bush admin figured out that a
spot here in Illinois had been picked and not one in a state more
favorable to the Republicans.
So, no, clean coal is not an oxymoron by even your definition.
Actually what we use most of our coal for has no correalation to crude
oil.
Only a very tiny percentage of crude oil goes toward production of
electricity when virtually all coal is used for that purpose. And no
coal is used for vehicle fuel.
But you are correct. Gas emissions from coal plants have been
decreasing steadily due to advances in technology.
We have an example of such here in Memphis.
http://www.tva.gov/environment/air/allen.htm
And the US is to coal what the middle east is to oil.
And yes, it takes all fuels to power a nation.
There is no miracle fuel that will replace fossil fuels anywhere on
the horizon.
When we talk of hydroelectric power the special interests scream that
building such dams will disrupt the environment.
When we speak of Wind power the elitists are all for it as long as
they don't have to look at the turbines from where THEY live..
When we speak of solar power the environmentalists are all for it
until the subject of where all the land needed to support thousands of
acres of solar panels will come from is brought up.
When we speak of nuclear the entire left yells hell no because of
fears of what happened decades ago due to poor design reoccuring.
Regards
§tarkiller©
"Many of you are well enough off that ... the tax cuts may have helped you," Sen. Clinton said.
"We're saying that for America to get back on track,
we're probably going to cut that short and not give it to you.
We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good."
>
> NOTE - US Coal is 70% Cleaner Today than it was
> in 1970, based on the Regulated Pollutants per
> Unit of Energy produced KW/MW in Electric Power
> Plants; and more is being done each year to
> make Coal a Clear Fuel.
>
All crap
- 1 800 GET-OBAMA
-
- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUZqCyQWeSg
Yes - You Too Can Get a Genuine Recycled
Plastic OBAMA for the Dash-Board of your Car
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mqm7lvdRFIs
.
- <SNIP>
Harvey,
Ah some would say that "Neocon + Intelligentsia"
is an Oxymoron ;;-) while others are smart enough
to know the difference.
The Neocon Intelligentsia are Preparing To . . .
spend the next four Years Blaming Obama
So lets get the Neocon Mantras down :
Barack Obama he is a Socialist and He's Evil
Barack Obama he is a Communist and He's Evil
Barack Obama he is a Liberal and He's Evil
Barack Obama he is a Democrat and He's Evil
Barack Obama his middle name is 'Hussein' and He's Evil
Barack Obama's Health Care Plan is Evil
Barack Obama's Tax Cut Plan is Evil
Barack Obama's Energy Plan is Evil
TBL : Barack Obama is Evil = hate, Hate. HATE !
all praise and honor be to the lord obama ~ RHF
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More crap
Crap
> obamao.sux....@gmail.com wrote in
> news:3781cc79-5349-463b...@q30g2000prq.googlegroups.com:
>
>> NewsBusters posted this January 2008 audio in which Obama promised a
>> San Franciso audience he will bankrupt the coal industry.
I don't think he said that. He said that if you wish to build a dirty
coal plant the carbon offset costs would make it prohibitively
expensive. Most Americans are concerned about global warming.
- Most Americans are concerned about global warming.
Dave,
Come this COLD Winter : Many/Most Americans
will be {are-in-fact} very concerned about
Warming their Homes.
support your all american woodpile ~ RHF
Fly-the-US-Flag on the Old Wood Pile for American Energy Independence !
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/6d4fa188e9673632
Burn All American Clean Coal for American Energy Independence !
.
That's a blatant lie.
I watched the video and he did not say that.
He said that cap and trade would make coal uncompetitive and it would
bankrupt them trying to compete with other sources.
Liar.
That's a lie. Obama never said he would bankrupt coal. I listened to
the video. It said no such thing.
You must be very seriously comprehension-deficient.
You're a *useless* imbecile. And a liar too. He never said what you
liars claim he said.
No such thing as clean coal. It's not going to be practical until
well after solar and wind could have replaced it.
See wikipedia for details.
> You [Telamon] must be very seriously comprehension-deficient.
So tell us something he [Telamon] hasn't already demonstrated here time
and again.
Putting cap-and-trade in place is the agreed-upon way to reach a
market solution on carbon emissions.
It's simply a fact that building coal-fired plants, unless they
sequester their emissions, would "bankrupt" those who
build new plants.
Stating a fact is hardly the same as vowing to personally ensure an
industry goes bankrupt. It's just a statement of what's true.
> On Nov 2, 12:09 pm, obamao.sux.donki.dix...@gmail.com wrote:
> > NewsBusters posted this January 2008 audio in which Obama promised a
> > San Franciso audience he will bankrupt the coal industry.
> >
> > http://newsbusters.org/blogs/p-j-gladnick/2008/11/02/hidden-audio-oba...
> >
> > Listen for yourself:
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hdi4onAQBWQ
> >
> > Obama: Išll make energy prices łskyrocket˛
> >
> > http://hotair.com/archives/2008/11/02/obama-ill-make-energy-prices-sk...
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTi7JOU8YzY
>
> Putting cap-and-trade in place is the agreed-upon way to reach a
> market solution on carbon emissions. It's simply a fact that building
> coal-fired plants, unless they sequester their emissions, would
> "bankrupt" those who build new plants.
>
> Stating a fact is hardly the same as vowing to personally ensure an
> industry goes bankrupt. It's just a statement of what's true.
If your work is connected in anyway with the coal industry I suggest
you quit your job now and take part in the coming O-bla-ma tax rebate
giveaway.
Same goes to the health sector and defense industries. It will take
about a year for O-bla-ma to destroy those sectors. Oh yeah, if you own
any stock in those sectors sell it now.
--
Telamon
Ventura, California
DBMcD,
It may be come a simple fact and stating it may
not make it true : It is a statement of a 'possible'
truth in the not to distant future . . .
ObamaNomics© Global De-Investment in the USA :
De-vest in the USA and look to World Wide
Global Investments; since there will be major
capital flight out of the US Market in the
coming "Age of Obama"© and ObamaNomics© drive
the cost of US Goods and Services Up Up and Away.
Within Six Months the US Government may DEFAULT*
on it's Debt... and it will all be Obama's Fault
cause he was the president when it happen.
* Rumor-Has-It that George Soros and certain
International Hedge Funds were behind the 'timing'
of the current US Economic Collapse just prior
to the US Election to benefit Barack Husein Obama
and the Democrats in this Election.
[ Pay-Back Will Be a B-i-t-c-h ]
where there is gloom there is doom ~ RHF
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