First they came for Fox News
N∅ ∅baMa∅
encourages “folks to go at FOX news.”
http://therealbarackobama.wordpress.com/2009/10/14/first-they-came-for-fox-news/
Christopher Helms
wrote:
> MSNBC/Media matters says quarantining FOX News is not enough and
> encourages “folks to go at FOX news.”
Legitimate criticism solidly based in fact is not "coming after Fox
News," there, Glenn and deflecting criticism by invoking the Holocaust
over something this minor is probably not the best idea.
Dumbed Down Opies
"Knifefight Afterdance" <switchb...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:xn0gge0k...@news.x-privat.org...
Yeah, koo koo, koo koo. Call your Dad in Pakistan - Usama bin Dogfucker..
Bert Hyman
news:a161dfc8-60f0-4fe7...@x37g2000yqj.googlegroups.com
Christopher Helms <Chrish...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Oct 14, 7:37 am, N∅ ∅baMa∅
> <obamao.sux.donki.dix...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> MSNBC/Media matters says quarantining FOX News is not enough and
>> encourages “folks to go at FOX news.”
>
>
> Legitimate criticism solidly based in fact is not "coming after Fox
> News,"
Confusing the commentary and analysis which appears on the channel with
news programming is pretty stupid though.
--
Bert Hyman St. Paul, MN be...@iphouse.com
Baron_Mind
> Everyone knows that liberals are crypto-fascists.
That would be a logical fallacy..
--Fascism has always been a right-wing ideology, per history..
somefools
news:Xns9CA45DAB3A2...@216.250.184.7:
How do you tell the difference?
N∅ ∅baMa∅
N∅ ∅baMa∅
Socialism and Fascism always ends in death and destruction.
RHF
> "night light, underpants" regurgitated the usual right-wing ignorance:
- - Everyone knows that liberals are crypto-fascists.
The is nothing 'crypto' about Liberal-Fascist {ism}
The Liberal Elitist {Fascist} will let you know
that it is THEY {Who Are The Chosen Ones}
that are All Knowing and THEY Will Tell You
How To Live Your Life By Their Rules.
Recovering Liberals Casting-Off Their me, Me. ME ! Elitism
should go to Liberal's Anonymous [LA] Meetings and
repeat the Liberal's {Serenity} Prayer
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serenity_Prayer
God {Allah} Grant Me the Serenity {Political Sanity}
To Accept the Things I Can Not Change in Others
The Courage to Change the Things I Can in Myself
And the Wisdom To Know The Political Difference.
God {Allah} Grant Me the Respect for the Political
Beliefs and Rights of Others and Not to Violate
Their Basic Human Rights as Free Persons in a
Free Society of Equals.
God {Allah} Grant Me Spirit of Brotherhood and
Make Me the Equal of Everyman : Save Me from
trying to be an Overlord and Subjugator of My
Fellow Human Being to My Will and Beliefs.
- That would be a logical fallacy..
That's using 1930's Logic in the 21st Century.
which is a not living in the here-and-now fallacy.
- Fascism has always been a right-wing ideology, per history..
"ISMs" change and evolve with the passage
of time {decades} and the History of the 1930's
is not the Reality of Today's 21st Century.
Who Is A "Fascist"? & Who Is A "Liberal" ?
Are Some One And The Same ?
-aka- "Liberal-Fascist" ?
Can They Exist ? & Do They Exist ?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/6c9c9a87136d9a10
.
Try to use 1930s Definitions to Deny that
"Liberal-Fascism" Does Exist in the 21st
Century is an Tired Old Argument.
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/7fd91b4a2e4429c9
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/44230a0062947061
.
"Liberal-Fascism" with over 6-Million 'Hits' :
Liberal-Fascism is a Virtual Reality in the 21st Century
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/6a0dba38cddc6d10
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/3022071beb242aa3
.
Neo-LiIberal-Fascism - Employing Fascist Techniques
and Means to Achieve Liberal {Totalitarian} Goals and
Liberal {One Party} Political Dominance
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/9892c941fefbbef0
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/10905e6ff0ab2fad
.
Who Is A "Fascist"? & Who Is A "Liberal"
Are Some {Not All} One And The Same
-aka- "Liberal-Fascist" Can They Exist ?
& Do They Exist ?
.
The Fascist Nature of All Knowing Liberal
Elitism is compounded by Atheism :
Placing Man-over-Man -versus-
Man-Governing with God Principles his Fellow-Man*
* Hence the many Christian Democrat and
Christian Socialist Political Parties that
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Democrat
distinguish themselves in Principle and Policy
from the so-called Democrat {Socialist} and
Socialist {Communist} Parties.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_social_democratic_parties
.
.
buzz
> Bert Hyman <be...@iphouse.com> wrote in
> news:Xns9CA45DAB3A2...@216.250.184.7:
>
>> In
>> news:a161dfc8-60f0-4fe7...@x37g2000yqj.googlegroups.com
>> Christopher Helms <Chrish...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> <obamao.sux.donki.dix...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> MSNBC/Media matters says quarantining FOX News is not enough and
>>> Legitimate criticism solidly based in fact is not "coming after Fox
>>> News,"
>> Confusing the commentary and analysis which appears on the channel
>> with news programming is pretty stupid though.
>
> How do you tell the difference?
Simple-minded libs can't.
Barack Hussein Obama...MMM MMM MMM
Simple-minded dummycrats (the party that birthed the KKK) and
liberals...morons electing morons.
Baron_Mind
>
> Baron_Mind was having a laugh, at the expense of:
>>
>> "night light, underpants" regurgitated the usual right-wing ignorance:
>>
>>> Everyone knows that liberals are crypto-fascists.
>>
>> That would be a logical fallacy..
>>
>> --Fascism has always been a right-wing ideology, per history..
>
> LOL!!! Ah yes, another brainwash
So, you cited a web-log to support your foolishness?
How quaint.. Now, for the historic facts..
http://encarta.msn.com/encyclopedia_761568245_3/Fascism.html
Compared to Other Radical Right-Wing Ideologies
"Although fascism comes in many forms, not all radical
right-wing movements are fascist. In France in the 1890s,
for example, the Action Fran�aise movement started a
campaign to overthrow the democratic government of France
and restore the king to power. Although this movement
embraced the violence and the antidemocratic tendencies
of fascism, it did not develop the fascist myth of
revolutionary rebirth through popular power. There
have also been many movements that were simply nationalist
but with a right-wing political slant. In China, for example,
the Kuomintang (The Chinese National People�s Party), led
by Chiang Kai-shek, fought leftist revolutionaries until
Communists won control of China in 1949. Throughout the
20th century this type of right-wing nationalism was
common in many military dictatorships in Latin America,
Africa, and Asia. Fascism should also be distinguished
from right-wing separatist movements that set out to
create a new nation-state rather than to regenerate an
existing one. This would exclude cases such as the Nazi puppet
regime in Croatia during World War II. This regime, known as
the Usta�e government, relied on paramilitary groups to govern,
and hoped that their support for Nazism would enable Croatia
to break away from Yugoslavia. This separatist goal
distinguishes the Usta�e from genuine fascist movements."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism
Position in the political spectrum
"Fascism is normally described as "extreme right",
but writers on the subject have often found placing
fascism on a conventional left-right political spectrum
difficult. There is a scholarly consensus that fascism
was influenced by both the left and the right. A number
of historians have regarded fascism either as a revolutionary
centrist doctrine, as a doctrine which mixes philosophies
of the left and the right, or as both of those things.
The historians Eugen Weber, David Renton, and Robert Soucy
view fascism as on the ideological right. Rod Stackelberg
argues that fascism opposes egalitarianism (particularly racial)
and democracy, which according to him are characteristics that
make it an extreme right-wing movement. Stanley Payne states
that pre-war fascism found a coherent identity through
alliances with right-wing movements. Roger Griffin argues
that since the end of World War II, fascist movements have
become intertwined with the radical right, describing certain
groups as part of a "fascist radical right".
Walter Laqueur says that historical fascism "did not belong
to the extreme Left, yet defining it as part of the extreme
Right is not very illuminating either", but that it "was
always a coalition between radical, populist ('fascist')
elements and others gravitating toward the extreme Right".
Payne says "fascists were unique in their hostility to all
the main established currents, left right and center",
noting that they allied with both left and right, but more
often the right. However, he contends that German Nazism
was closer to Russian communism than to any other non-communist
system."
somefools
news:hb64tq$619$1...@news.eternal-september.org:
> somefools wrote:
>> Bert Hyman <be...@iphouse.com> wrote in
>> news:Xns9CA45DAB3A2...@216.250.184.7:
>>
>>> In
>>> news:a161dfc8-60f0-4fe7...@x37g2000yqj.googlegroups.co
>>> m Christopher Helms <Chrish...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Oct 14, 7:37� am, N∅ ∅baMa∅
>>>> <obamao.sux.donki.dix...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> MSNBC/Media matters says quarantining FOX News is not enough and
>>>>> encourages “folks to go at FOX news.”
>>>>
>>>> Legitimate criticism solidly based in fact is not "coming after Fox
>>>> News,"
>>> Confusing the commentary and analysis which appears on the channel
>>> with news programming is pretty stupid though.
>>
>> How do you tell the difference?
>
> Simple-minded libs can't.
But assholes can. I see.
Perhaps a decoder ring is in the offing here?
Christopher Helms
> somefools wrote:
> > Bert Hyman <b...@iphouse.com> wrote in
> >news:Xns9CA45DAB3A2...@216.250.184.7:
>
> >> In
> >>news:a161dfc8-60f0-4fe7...@x37g2000yqj.googlegroups.com
>
> >>> On Oct 14, 7:37 am, N∅ ∅baMa∅
> >>> <obamao.sux.donki.dix...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> MSNBC/Media matters says quarantining FOX News is not enough and
> >>>> encourages “folks to go at FOX news.â€
>
> >>> Legitimate criticism solidly based in fact is not "coming after Fox
> >>> News,"
> >> Confusing the commentary and analysis which appears on the channel
> >> with news programming is pretty stupid though.
>
> > How do you tell the difference?
>
> Simple-minded libs can't.
It's actually you guys who keep getting Glenn Beck's paranoiac rants
confused with news.
RHF
> "no brainer" <nobrain@.dsl.mdsnwi.sbcglobal.net> whimpered:
>
>
>
> > Baron_Mind was having a laugh, at the expense of:
>
> >> "night light, underpants" regurgitated the usual right-wing ignorance:
>
> >>> Everyone knows that liberals are crypto-fascists.
>
> >> That would be a logical fallacy..
>
> >> --Fascism has always been a right-wing ideology, per history..
>
> > LOL!!! Ah yes, another brainwash
>
> So, you cited a web-log to support your foolishness?
>
> How quaint.. Now, for the historic facts..
>
> http://encarta.msn.com/encyclopedia_761568245_3/Fascism.html
>
> Compared to Other Radical Right-Wing Ideologies
>
> "Although fascism comes in many forms, not all radical
> right-wing movements are fascist. In France in the 1890s,
> campaign to overthrow the democratic government of France
> and restore the king to power. Although this movement
> embraced the violence and the antidemocratic tendencies
> of fascism, it did not develop the fascist myth of
> revolutionary rebirth through popular power. There
> have also been many movements that were simply nationalist
> but with a right-wing political slant. In China, for example,
> by Chiang Kai-shek, fought leftist revolutionaries until
> Communists won control of China in 1949. Throughout the
> 20th century this type of right-wing nationalism was
> common in many military dictatorships in Latin America,
> Africa, and Asia. Fascism should also be distinguished
> from right-wing separatist movements that set out to
> create a new nation-state rather than to regenerate an
> existing one. This would exclude cases such as the Nazi puppet
> regime in Croatia during World War II. This regime, known as
> and hoped that their support for Nazism would enable Croatia
> to break away from Yugoslavia. This separatist goal
- However, he contends that German Nazism
- was closer to Russian communism than to
- any other non-communist system."
Chinese 'Communism' {One Party Rule} Today
in the 21st Century is Uniquely Fascist :
The Great Leader {or One Party Leadership}
The Party United Behind The Great Leader
The People United Behind The Party
Recovering Liberals Casting-Off Their
me, Me. ME ! Elitism and should go to
Liberal's Anonymous [LA] Meetings and
repeat the Liberal's {Serenity} Prayer
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/a5198eaab596d11c
.
N∅ ∅baMa∅
> "no brainer" <nobrain@.dsl.mdsnwi.sbcglobal.net> whimpered:
>
>
>
> > Baron_Mind was having a laugh, at the expense of:
>
> >> "night light, underpants" regurgitated the usual right-wing ignorance:
>
> >>> Everyone knows that liberals are crypto-fascists.
>
> >> That would be a logical fallacy..
>
> >> --Fascism has always been a right-wing ideology, per history..
>
> > LOL!!! Ah yes, another brainwash
>
> So, you cited a web-log to support your foolishness?
>
> How quaint.. Now, for the historic facts..
>
I strongly suggest you visit a library and a book store and start
reading "the facts" about the roots of Fascism and its mother -
Progressivism and Neo-Liberalism.
Your naked ignorance reveals nothing more then your Communist rooted
propaganda lies.
Your ignorance is naked.
dave
>
> "ISMs" change and evolve with the passage
> of time {decades} and the History of the 1930's
> is not the Reality of Today's 21st Century.
Bullshit!
It's always been a war between the assholes and the cool people. The
suits and the dungarees. The Romans and the Christians. The British
and the American rebels. The fascists vs the socialists.
dave
>
> Recovering Liberals Casting-Off Their
> me, Me. ME ! Elitism and should go to
> Liberal's Anonymous [LA] Meetings and
> repeat the Liberal's {Serenity} Prayer
> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/a5198eaab596d11c
> .
I thought "elite" meant exceptional. What's wrong with that?
dave
>
> I strongly suggest you visit a library and a book store and start
> reading "the facts" about the roots of Fascism and its mother -
> Progressivism and Neo-Liberalism.
Neo-liberalism? Isn't that the same thing as contemporary conservatism?
You make feel extra special to be a anarchist-socialist.
N∅ ∅baMa∅
Would you kindly mind your own business and stop ruining the Commie
Clap Traps.
Baron_Mind
>
> Baron_Mind was pointing out the obvious, as it escaped laughing at:
>>
>> "no brainer" <nobrain@.dsl.mdsnwi.sbcglobal.net> whimpered:
>>>
>>> Baron_Mind was having a laugh, at the expense of:
>>>>
>>>> "night light, underpants" regurgitated the usual right-wing ignorance:
>>>>
>>>>> Everyone knows that liberals are crypto-fascists.
>>>>
>>>> That would be a logical fallacy..
>>>>
>>>> --Fascism has always been a right-wing ideology, per history..
>>>
>>> LOL!!! Ah yes, another brainwash
>>
>> So, you cited a web-log to support your foolishness?
>>
>> How quaint.. Now, for the historic facts..
>>
>> http://encarta.msn.com/encyclopedia_761568245_3/Fascism.html
>>
>> Compared to Other Radical Right-Wing Ideologies
>>
>> "Although fascism comes in many forms, not all radical
>> right-wing movements are fascist. In France in the 1890s,
>> campaign to overthrow the democratic government of France
>> and restore the king to power. Although this movement
>> embraced the violence and the antidemocratic tendencies
>> of fascism, it did not develop the fascist myth of
>> revolutionary rebirth through popular power. There
>> have also been many movements that were simply nationalist
>> but with a right-wing political slant. In China, for example,
>> by Chiang Kai-shek, fought leftist revolutionaries until
>> Communists won control of China in 1949. Throughout the
>> 20th century this type of right-wing nationalism was
>> common in many military dictatorships in Latin America,
>> Africa, and Asia. Fascism should also be distinguished
>> from right-wing separatist movements that set out to
>> create a new nation-state rather than to regenerate an
>> existing one. This would exclude cases such as the Nazi puppet
>> regime in Croatia during World War II. This regime, known as
>> and hoped that their support for Nazism would enable Croatia
>> to break away from Yugoslavia. This separatist goal
>> was closer to Russian communism than to any other non-communist
>> system."
>
> Recovering Liberals
Speaking of elitism, when are you going to quit pretending
that your failed political ideology is above questioning?
--Do you see the contradiction that's inherent with that?
RHF
> RHF wrote:
>
- - Recovering Liberals Casting-Off Their
- - me, Me. ME ! Elitism and should go to
- - Liberal's Anonymous [LA] Meetings and
- - repeat the Liberal's {Serenity} Prayer
- - http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/a5198eaab596d11c
- - .
- I thought "elite" meant exceptional.
- What's wrong with that?
Dave - Nothing if you consider that :
Stalin was Exceptional
Hitler was Exceptional
Mao was Exceptional
Pol Pot was Exceptional
Osama bin Laden is Exceptional
and . . . some Liberals claim that
Prez Obama is very exceptional
.
RHF
- - RHF wrote:
- - "ISMs" change and evolve with the passage
- - of time {decades} and the History of the 1930's
- - is not the Reality of Today's 21st Century.
- Bullshit!
-
- It's always been a war between the assholes
- and the cool people.
Dave "Bullshit!" spoken like a real 'cool' 'asshole' ~ RHF
- The suits and the dungarees.
Many a Monday through Friday Dungaree wearer;
wears a Suit on Sunday.
{Situations Change and are Relative to Their Times}
- The Romans and the Christians.
That relationship evolved and changed over time.
-ps- proving my point.
- The British and the American rebels.
That relationship evolved and changed over time.
-ps- proving my point.
- The fascists vs the socialists.
That would be "The fascists 'and' the socialists."
Some now ask in States ruled by One Party
and a Great Leader : Is There A Difference . . .
.
Question : Is America {The USA} now a
One Party State Ruled by a Great Leader ?
.
First They Came For My Social Security Card
Next They Came For My Voter's Registration Card
Then They Came For My Driver's License
AFTER THAT I DID NOT EXIST [Erased]
.
RHF
> N? ?baMa? wrote:
>
> > I strongly suggest you visit a library and a book store and start
> > reading "the facts" about the roots of Fascism and its mother -
> > Progressivism and Neo-Liberalism.
>
Neo-Liberalism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neo-liberalism
- Isn't that the same thing as contemporary conservatism?
-wrt- Conservatism in the United States
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservatism_in_the_United_States
- You make feel extra special to be a anarchist-socialist.
Socialist-Anarchist
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_anarchist
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_anarchism
* Libertarian Socialism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarian_socialism
Nah Dave You Are Just "Dave" ~ RHF
.
Question : Is America {The USA} now a
One Party State Ruled by a Great Leader ?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/e0e0ae440f1e03ac
.
dave
You are rapidly veering into the Twilight Zone.
dave
> .
> First They Came For My Social Security Card
> Next They Came For My Voter's Registration Card
> Then They Came For My Driver's License
> AFTER THAT I DID NOT EXIST [Erased]
> .
RHF
> RHF wrote:
> > On Oct 15, 5:59 am, dave <d...@dave.dave> wrote:
> >> RHF wrote:
>
> > - - Recovering Liberals Casting-Off Their
> > - - me, Me. ME ! Elitism and should go to
> > - - Liberal's Anonymous [LA] Meetings and
> > - - repeat the Liberal's {Serenity} Prayer
> > - - .
>
> > - I thought "elite" meant exceptional.
> > - What's wrong with that?
>
- - Stalin was Exceptional
- - Hitler was Exceptional
- - Mao was Exceptional
- - Pol Pot was Exceptional
- - Osama bin Laden is Exceptional
- - and . . . some Liberals claim that
- - Prez Obama is very exceptional
http://www.johnmccaindog.com/brain/socialist_brain.gif
- You are rapidly veering into the Twilight Zone.
That's Land of the Obama-Zombies©
http://divedesk.com/blog/09/obama-socialist.jpg
They Suck all the Money out of your Hardworking
Body in the name of Obama Higher Taxes
.
dave
We have been leaching off the government long enough; time for paying it
back. Bush tax cuts were merely postponements; time's up!
∅baMa∅ Tse Dung
>
> We have been leaching off the government long enough; time for paying it
> back. Bush tax cuts were merely postponements; time's up!
No one is stopping you from making a donation to the IRS.
∅baMa∅ Tse Dung
>
> You make feel extra special to be a anarchist-socialist.
Which one are you today?
∅baMa∅ Tse Dung
>
> Speaking of elitism, when are you going to quit pretending
> that your failed political ideology is above questioning?
>
>
Oh - enlighten us Dear Leader with more of your Neo-Commie 0baMa0
Propaganda LIES!
rotfl
Baron_Mind
>
> Baron_Mind was laughing at the intentional ignorance of:
>> that your failed political ideology is above questioning?
>
Enlighten yourself, if that's your path, neophyte..
--Yours is no disgrace..
RHF
> RHF wrote:
> > On Oct 16, 5:18 am, dave <d...@dave.dave> wrote:
>
> > - You are rapidly veering into the Twilight Zone.
- - That's Land of the Obama-Zombies©
- - http://divedesk.com/blog/09/obama-socialist.jpg
- - They Suck all the Money out of your Hardworking
- - Body in the name of Obama Higher Taxes
- We have been leaching off the government long enough;
- time for paying it back.
- Bush tax cuts were merely postponements;
- time's up!
Dave yes the Year 2011 is approaching and soon all
the working American people will get a Tax Increase
of 13% due to Prez Obama and the Democrat Controlled
US Congress of Pelosi and Reid.
http://www.kiplinger.com/businessresource/forecast/archive/tax_hikes_coming_in_2011_090424.html
Prez Obama 'promised' {fingers crossed} No New Taxes;
and BHO is sort-of kind-of right cause all Americans will
be paying Higher Taxes at the Old {not new} Tax Rates
in 2011.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/11/09/AR2007110901790.html
Add Prez Obama's Cap-&-Trade Taxes and Fees
Add Prez Obama's Obama-Care© Taxes and Fees
.
The Obama-Regime© Creating a Culture of Joblessness,
Dependency and Controlling Your Every Day Life plus
Taxing Every Day You Live : That's Obama-Tax-Slavery© !
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/75314971ad0bb2ab
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/fd2bc713ce1e20fa
.
Go Green Recycle Congress ! -and-
Say 'No' to Obama, Pelosi & Reid
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/5b507cea80522b22
.
O.B.A.M.A. = One Big Absolute Mistake America !
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/244b71e8dcd31438
.
.