The Hydrogen-PV Economy -- What have we learned so far?
Hydrogen TRUTH
We learned from 1979 through 2000 that people would install PV at 25%
growth rate, doubling the installed quantity every 3 years.
We learned the price went down 19% for PV every time we doubled the
installed base.
We learned that if we projected these trends out into the future that
PV would take over as the whole electricity supplier no later than 35
years from now, in the year 2042.
We learned that our national electric bill would be $9,106,650,000,000
just paying the same monthly bills every month for 35 years, changing
nothing, doing nothing different than we do today.
We learned that switching to PV at an accelerated pace, we could save
$5,392,521,000,000 in that 35 years by not paying monthly electric
bills.
Global Warming Has Been Cancelled by H2-PV
A 25% growth of PV per year, as happened from 1979 through 2000, until
Bush crowd took over, projected into the future shows three FREEDOM
DAYS.
A 19% price decrease every time the installed PV base doubles, as
happened from 1979 through 2000, until the Bush crowd took over, shows
the price of each FREEDOM DAY. Doubling occurs every 3 years at 25%
compounded annual growth.
Spreadsheets are online to provide the details of the increases and
decreases from any arbitrary price point chosen by changing the master
price cell.
http://hydrogentruth.info/spreadsheets/scenario_2b.html
http://hydrogentruth.info/spreadsheets/scenario_2b.sxc
http://hydrogentruth.info/spreadsheets/scenario_2b.xls
FREEDOM DAY #1 is the date that the PV watts installed equals the
whole country consumption of electricity. Other sources are still
needed for off-hours power.
FREEDOM DAY #2 is the date that the PV doubles and the extra PV goes
to storing energy at 50% round trip efficiency or better, like power
is now stored in pumped reservoirs at 50% efficiency electricity to
electricity round trip.
FREEDOM DAY #3 is the date when PV surplus is sufficient to power all
electricity and make hydrogen sufficient to fuel all 200,000,000 cars
and light trucks in America.
THE COST OF NOTHING is also computed. This is the costs of paying for
electricity at the meter forever and ever, changing NOTHING, doing
NOTHING.
http://hydrogentruth.info/page_4a2.html
Freedom Day
http://hydrogentruth.info/page_4a3.html
The Cost of Nothing
DO THE MATH
$10,667,790,000,000 Utility Bills
-$10,031,886,000,000 H2-PV
========
$635,904,000,000 H2-PV Savings
That's $635,904,000,000
(BILLION with a B)
Do it YOUR WAY, Nothing, and spend $10.668 TRILLION, just get
electricity and more bills every month forever.
Do it the H2-PV RIGHT WAY and get all your electricity and all your
car fill-ups, plus save $635 BILLION for other things. Only pay $200
per person once every 20 years thereafter for replacement PV.
http://hydrogentruth.info/Villains/Debunking_Robert_Zubri ...
Store 10,000,000,000 kilograms of Hydrogen in a nationwide pipeline
grid by just increasing the pressure one atmosphere (14.5 psi).
http://hydrogentruth.info/page_07a.html
Hydrogen Pipelines
More spreadsheets:
http://hydrogentruth.info/spreadsheets/
beav
<Hydrog...@HydrogenTRUTH.info> wrote:
>The Hydrogen-PV Economy -- What have we learned so far?
>
>We learned from 1979 through 2000 that people would install PV at 25%
>growth rate, doubling the installed quantity every 3 years.
sure. with a large tax credit. let's see if you need a tax credit to
maintain that rate...
>
>We learned the price went down 19% for PV every time we doubled the
>installed base.
ok. i'll accept that. for now. the curve may flatten as time goes
on, unless there is a big technical innovation.
>
>We learned that if we projected these trends out into the future that
>PV would take over as the whole electricity supplier no later than 35
>years from now, in the year 2042.
you haven't "learned" anything. you "propose" that if people do what
you propose, that PV can take over.
assuming all your assumptions apply. if anything changes IN those
assumptions, your prediction(s) may be wrong.
>
>We learned that our national electric bill would be $9,106,650,000,000
>just paying the same monthly bills every month for 35 years, changing
>nothing, doing nothing different than we do today.
if your projection is correct.
>
>We learned that switching to PV at an accelerated pace, we could save
>$5,392,521,000,000 in that 35 years by not paying monthly electric
>bills.
we didn't learn that. you SAY that.
didn't you say that this wasn't an economic decision? that economics
don't play a part in this?
what'll it be?
>
>Global Warming Has Been Cancelled by H2-PV
>
>A 25% growth of PV per year, as happened from 1979 through 2000, until
>Bush crowd took over, projected into the future shows three FREEDOM
>DAYS.
and AWAY WE GO!!!
Don Lancaster
>
>>We learned the price went down 19% for PV every time we doubled the
>>installed base.
>
>
Has not been true for years and will not be true until net energy panels
become available.
--
Many thanks,
Don Lancaster voice phone: (928)428-4073
Synergetics 3860 West First Street Box 809 Thatcher, AZ 85552
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Please visit my GURU's LAIR web site at http://www.tinaja.com
Eeyore
beav wrote:
> "Hydrogen TRUTH" <Hydrog...@HydrogenTRUTH.info> wrote:
>
> >The Hydrogen-PV Economy -- What have we learned so far?
> >
> >We learned from 1979 through 2000 that people would install PV at 25%
> >growth rate, doubling the installed quantity every 3 years.
>
> sure. with a large tax credit. let's see if you need a tax credit to
> maintain that rate...
>
>
> >We learned the price went down 19% for PV every time we doubled the
> >installed base.
>
> ok. i'll accept that. for now. the curve may flatten as time goes
> on, unless there is a big technical innovation.
>
>
> >We learned that if we projected these trends out into the future that
> >PV would take over as the whole electricity supplier no later than 35
> >years from now, in the year 2042.
>
> you haven't "learned" anything. you "propose" that if people do what
> you propose, that PV can take over.
>
> assuming all your assumptions apply. if anything changes IN those
> assumptions, your prediction(s) may be wrong.
Using a factor of 25% annual growth over 35 years would result in the PV
industry being 2,500 times bigger after those 35 years.
That would mean subsidies in the multi billions where they are millions now.
Japan's PV subsidy for 2003 was USD 87 million.
http://www.iea-pvps.org/pvpower/17_06a.htm
That would scale to USD 217 billion in 35 years using the above figure !
Graham
Eeyore
beav wrote:
> "Hydrogen TRUTH" <Hydrog...@HydrogenTRUTH.info> wrote:
>
> >The Hydrogen-PV Economy -- What have we learned so far?
> >
> >We learned from 1979 through 2000 that people would install PV at 25%
> >growth rate, doubling the installed quantity every 3 years.
>
> sure. with a large tax credit. let's see if you need a tax credit to
> maintain that rate...
>
> >
> >We learned the price went down 19% for PV every time we doubled the
> >installed base.
>
> ok. i'll accept that. for now. the curve may flatten as time goes
> on, unless there is a big technical innovation.
A regular 19% reduction over 10 years would mean a $600 100W panel would cost
$73 in 2017. Or $25 in 2022 !
Does that seem likely ?
Graham
Peter B. P.
Hard to tell. There are many factors ivolved in the equation, but 19%
seems to agressive, too optimistic IMO.
That means the PV panels wil cost 1/3 in 2017. But... it's speculation.
--
regards , Peter B. P. - http://titancity.com/blog , http://macplanet.dk
If guns kill, do pencils cause spelling errors?
Peter B. P.
> The Hydrogen-PV Economy -- What have we learned so far?
>
> We learned from 1979 through 2000 that people would install PV at 25%
> growth rate, doubling the installed quantity every 3 years.
Cite, please.
Hydrogen TRUTH
> Hydrogen TRUTH <HydrogenTR...@HydrogenTRUTH.info> wrote:
> > The Hydrogen-PV Economy -- What have we learned so far?
>
> > We learned from 1979 through 2000 that people would install PV at 25%
> > growth rate, doubling the installed quantity every 3 years.
>
> Cite, please.
Your fingers broken? LOOK up there in the corner: every modern browser
has a google toolbar, and you don't trust me anyway, so go check for
yourself. Sheesh, rightwingers expect data welfare served up on a
silver platter -- no wonder they are LOSING ELECTIONS to hard-working
data-mining liberals...
Here's some CHARITY, Turd, for your incompetent handicap.
http://www.earth-policy.org/Indicators/2004/indicator12_data.htm
Growth rate has been over 30% since 1996.
http://www.frankhaugwitz.info/doks/pv/2006_03_China_PV_Industry_Critical_Review_Trends_and_Outlook_Nicoletta_Mariggo.pdf
The previously mentioned take off of the Chinese PV industry is
clearly visible in the figure and seems to follow the global trend
quite closely but with a noteworthy difference: while global PV
production has been growing at an average annual rate of 36% since
1997, the annual growth of production capacity in China has been
nearly double this, 70%, during the same period.
http://www.iea-pvps.org/products/download/pap1_061.pdf
The annual rate of growth of cumulative installed
capacity in the IEA PVPS countries remained fairly
steady at an impressive 42 %, with Germany's
cumulative installed capacity growing at 80 % (similar to
the previous year) and Japan's growth rate also quite
steady at 26 %. The corresponding figures for growth of
the annual markets are 40 % for IEA PVPS countries,
75 % for Germany and 6 % for Japan. These growth rates
have resulted in Germany now overtaking Japan with the
highest level of installed capacity both in terms of total
capacity (1 429 MW) and installed capacity per capita
(17,3 W/capita).
Hydrogen TRUTH
>
> > > >The Hydrogen-PV Economy -- What have we learned so far?
>
> > > >We learned from 1979 through 2000 that people would install PV at 25%
> > > >growth rate, doubling the installed quantity every 3 years.
>
> > > sure. with a large tax credit. let's see if you need a tax credit to
> > > maintain that rate...
>
> > > >We learned the price went down 19% for PV every time we doubled the
> > > >installed base.
>
> > > ok. i'll accept that. for now. the curve may flatten as time goes
> > > on, unless there is a big technical innovation.
>
> > A regular 19% reduction over 10 years would mean a $600 100W panel would cost
> > $73 in 2017. Or $25 in 2022 !
>
> > Does that seem likely ?
>
> > Graham
>
> Hard to tell. There are many factors ivolved in the equation, but 19%
> seems to agressive, too optimistic IMO.
>
> That means the PV panels wil cost 1/3 in 2017. But... it's speculation.
http://www1.eere.energy.gov/ba/pdfs/res_pv.pdf
Estimation of costs for highly evolving products like photovoltaic
modules and systems over several decades is a very difficult task. One
method is to extrapolate from historical data. A useful tool for
performing extrapolations of the costs of manufactured products from
historical data is the learning curve [19-21]. This method is derived
from examination of cost data for many different industries, which has
found that the cost of the product in constant dollars is a geometric
function of the product's cumulative volume. The price reduction
expected for a doubling of volume is known as the learning curve
factor. The learning curve may be combined with an annual projected
growth rate to estimate the annual reduction in product cost.
Data for the price of PV modules, as a function of cumulative volume,
has been analyzed by several groups, and they reported learning curve
factors between 0.68 and 0.82 [19-21]. The more conservative learning
curve factor of 0.82 was used in this study because analyses of many
other industries have found similar values [21]. This value means that
a doubling of the cumulative volume of PV modules sales will reduce
the cost of PV modules to 82% of its previous value. The annual growth
rate in PV module sales has been between 15-20% in recent years
[22,23]. Given the strong demand for PV modules and the broad interest
in accelerating adoption of PV energy (e.g., Million Solar Roofs
Initiative), an annual growth rate of 20% can be conservatively
assumed. A learning curve factor of 82% and assumed growth rate of 20%
yield an estimated price reduction of 5% per year. An annual growth
rate of 20% and annual cost reduction of 5% is used to generate the
projections for the years 2000-2030 (Table 3). The price of $3.15 in
1997 is based on the estimated module price of one of the lowest
recent bid system prices ($5.76/W for SMUD PV Pioneer residential PV
systems). The average wholesale price of crystalline-silicon PV
modules has stayed around $4.00/W in recent years because of increased
demand and constrained capacity. Table 3 illustrates the potential of
the technology, given a more mature market.
Hydrogen TRUTH
wrote:
> beav wrote:
EEYORE the LIE-ore
THe sghits made of the same stuff that beer bottles and beer cans are
made of. What's a foot square of beer bottles and beer cans crushed
down to the thickness of a business card? 30 cents? 10 cents? 5 cents?
There is 12 watts power production in every sq.ft of polycrystal PV @
13% efficiency. What's the cost of one watt when a sq.ft costs a dime?
Hydrogen TRUTH
wrote:
> beav wrote:
> > "Hydrogen TRUTH" <HydrogenTR...@HydrogenTRUTH.info> wrote:
>
> > >The Hydrogen-PV Economy -- What have we learned so far?
>
> > >We learned from 1979 through 2000 that people would install PV at 25%
> > >growth rate, doubling the installed quantity every 3 years.
>
> > sure. with a large tax credit. let's see if you need a tax credit to
> > maintain that rate...
>
> > >We learned the price went down 19% for PV every time we doubled the
> > >installed base.
>
> > ok. i'll accept that. for now. the curve may flatten as time goes
> > on, unless there is a big technical innovation.
>
> > >We learned that if we projected these trends out into the future that
> > >PV would take over as the whole electricity supplier no later than 35
> > >years from now, in the year 2042.
>
> > you haven't "learned" anything. you "propose" that if people do what
> > you propose, that PV can take over.
>
> > assuming all your assumptions apply. if anything changes IN those
> > assumptions, your prediction(s) may be wrong.
>
> Using a factor of 25% annual growth over 35 years would result in the PV
> industry being 2,500 times bigger after those 35 years.
>
> That would mean subsidies in the multi billions where they are millions now.
>
>
> That would scale to USD 217 billion in 35 years using the above figure !
>
> Graham
EEYORE the LIE-ore
The cost of buying the nation's electricity for the US from the power
utilities at a dime-a-kilowatt-hour adds up to ...
$6,066,788,000,000 in 35 years (That's TRILLIONS with a T). Your
choice: subsidize the private utilities or subsidize the public
interest. Pick whichever one gives YOU the best return.
The cost of PV to equal the current US annual consumption is
$2,259,292,000,000. IT all depends on you investments in utilities
which one you choose. You save almost $4 trillion subsidizing the
public interest if you are the public, or you make an extra almost $4
trillion if you are a utility investor.
LIE YOUR head off for your corporate masters EEYORE the LIE-ore.
Hydrogen TRUTH
> beav wrote:
>
> >>We learned the price went down 19% for PV every time we doubled the
> >>installed base.
>
> Has not been true for years and will not be true until net energy panels
> become available.
Don Lancaster-the-Liar has not not been true for years and will not be
true until OILY INC stops funding lie factories and lie agents on the
internet.
.... it's about wealth-shifting: Exxon shifts YOUR Wealth to Exxon,
Yes, we got it!
http://ScienceCop.info/wiki/tiki-index.php?page=TheSunBetrayed
http://sciencecop.info/wiki/tiki-index.php?page=TheCarbonWar
http://sciencecop.info/wiki/tiki-index.php?page=Cartel+Solar+Patents
http://www.ucsusa.org/news/press_release/ExxonMobil-GlobalWarming-tobacco.html
Scientists' Report Documents ExxonMobil's Tobacco-like Disinformation
Campaign on Global Warming Science -- Oil Company Spent Nearly $16
Million to Fund Skeptic Groups, Create Confusion
Don Lancaster
I would expect prices to drop FAR more dramatically than that, once
fully burdened net energy breakeven is acheived.
Peter B. P.
> On Feb 22, 1:05 pm, p...@DIESPAMMERDIE.dk (Peter B. P.) wrote: > Hydrogen
> TRUTH <HydrogenTR...@HydrogenTRUTH.info> wrote: > > The Hydrogen-PV
> Economy -- What have we learned so far? > > > We learned from 1979 through
> 2000 that people would install PV at 25% > > growth rate, doubling the
> installed quantity every 3 years. > > Cite, please.
>
> Your fingers broken?
No. Is your mind?
Here's a factoid so even an abusive ass like yourself can understand it:
YOU make a claim. YOU have the burden of proof.
Capisce? Or has Alzheimsers already set in?
> LOOK up there in the corner: every modern browser has a google toolbar,
> and you don't trust me anyway, so go check for yourself. Sheesh,
> rightwingers
I'm only a rightwinger if you're on the extreme left. Of course, to the
leftards, everyone of a different opinion from themselves is a
rightwinger.
> expect data welfare served up on a silver platter
No, i expect people to back up their claims, which you only seem to want
to do
>-- no wonder they are LOSING ELECTIONS to hard-working data-mining
>liberals...
"Liberals" are nothing close to liberal in the correct sense of the
word. Of course, if you're a social demcrat, you have my deepest
condolences.
>
> Here's some CHARITY, Turd, for your incompetent handicap.
A handicap cannot be incompetent. Did you fail 5th grade English?
>
> http://www.earth-policy.org/Indicators/2004/indicator12_data.htm Growth
> rate has been over 30% since 1996.
>
> http://www.frankhaugwitz.info/doks/pv/2006_03_China_PV_Industry_Critical_R
> eview_Trends_and_Outlook_Nicoletta_Mariggo.pdf The previously mentioned
> take off of the Chinese PV industry is clearly visible in the figure and
> seems to follow the global trend quite closely but with a noteworthy
> difference: while global PV production has been growing at an average
> annual rate of 36% since 1997, the annual growth of production capacity in
> China has been nearly double this, 70%, during the same period.
>
> http://www.iea-pvps.org/products/download/pap1_061.pdf The annual rate of
> growth of cumulative installed capacity in the IEA PVPS countries remained
> fairly steady at an impressive 42 %, with Germany's cumulative installed
> capacity growing at 80 % (similar to the previous year) and Japan's growth
> rate also quite steady at 26 %. The corresponding figures for growth of
> the annual markets are 40 % for IEA PVPS countries, 75 % for Germany and 6
> % for Japan. These growth rates have resulted in Germany now overtaking
> Japan with the highest level of installed capacity both in terms of total
> capacity (1 429 MW) and installed capacity per capita (17,3 W/capita).
Ahh, data. Now, that wasn't so hard, was it? Even for a "liberal"...
Lesson learned, Kuntz: In the future, put up the data before you open
your rotten piehole.
Hydrogen TRUTH
> Hydrogen TRUTH <HydrogenTR...@HydrogenTRUTH.info> wrote:
> > On Feb 22, 1:05 pm, p...@DIESPAMMERDIE.dk (Peter B. P.) wrote: > Hydrogen
> > TRUTH <HydrogenTR...@HydrogenTRUTH.info> wrote: > > The Hydrogen-PV
> > Economy -- What have we learned so far? > > > We learned from 1979 through
> > 2000 that people would install PV at 25% > > growth rate, doubling the
> > installed quantity every 3 years. > > Cite, please.
>
> > Your fingers broken?
>
> No. Is your mind?
>
> Here's a factoid so even an abusive ass like yourself can understand it:
>
> YOU make a claim. YOU have the burden of proof.
Peter B. P. made this claim without carrying his burden of proof that
the claim is valid: "YOU make a claim. YOU have the burden of proof."
why were there no cites to validate your claim? How dare you make a
claim without a cite validating your claim?
> Capisce? Or has Alzheimsers already set in?
>
> > LOOK up there in the corner: every modern browser has a google toolbar,
> > and you don't trust me anyway, so go check for yourself. Sheesh,
> > rightwingers
>
> I'm only a rightwinger if you're on the extreme left. Of course, to the
> leftards, everyone of a different opinion from themselves is a
> rightwinger.
>
> > expect data welfare served up on a silver platter
>
> No, i expect people to back up their claims, which you only seem to want
> to do
>
> >-- no wonder they are LOSING ELECTIONS to hard-working data-mining
> >liberals...
>
> "Liberals" are nothing close to liberal in the correct sense of the
> word. Of course, if you're a social demcrat, you have my deepest
> condolences.
>
>
>
> > Here's some CHARITY, Turd, for your incompetent handicap.
>
> A handicap cannot be incompetent. Did you fail 5th grade English?
>
>
>
>
>
> >http://www.earth-policy.org/Indicators/2004/indicator12_data.htmGrowth
> > rate has been over 30% since 1996.
>
> >http://www.frankhaugwitz.info/doks/pv/2006_03_China_PV_Industry_Criti...
> > eview_Trends_and_Outlook_Nicoletta_Mariggo.pdf The previously mentioned
> > take off of the Chinese PV industry is clearly visible in the figure and
> > seems to follow the global trend quite closely but with a noteworthy
> > difference: while global PV production has been growing at an average
> > annual rate of 36% since 1997, the annual growth of production capacity in
> > China has been nearly double this, 70%, during the same period.
>
> >http://www.iea-pvps.org/products/download/pap1_061.pdfThe annual rate of
> > growth of cumulative installed capacity in the IEA PVPS countries remained
> > fairly steady at an impressive 42 %, with Germany's cumulative installed
> > capacity growing at 80 % (similar to the previous year) and Japan's growth
> > rate also quite steady at 26 %. The corresponding figures for growth of
> > the annual markets are 40 % for IEA PVPS countries, 75 % for Germany and 6
> > % for Japan. These growth rates have resulted in Germany now overtaking
> > Japan with the highest level of installed capacity both in terms of total
> > capacity (1 429 MW) and installed capacity per capita (17,3 W/capita).
>
> Ahh, data. Now, that wasn't so hard, was it? Even for a "liberal"...
>
> Lesson learned, Kuntz: In the future, put up the data before you open
> your rotten piehole.
Ask Mr Exxon to remove his engorged organ affixed in your quivering
anxious asp when you say that, right-turd.
Peter B. P.
> On Feb 22, 4:33 pm, p...@DIESPAMMERDIE.dk (Peter B. P.) wrote:
> > Hydrogen TRUTH <HydrogenTR...@HydrogenTRUTH.info> wrote:
> > > On Feb 22, 1:05 pm, p...@DIESPAMMERDIE.dk (Peter B. P.) wrote: > Hydrogen
> > > TRUTH <HydrogenTR...@HydrogenTRUTH.info> wrote: > > The Hydrogen-PV
> > > Economy -- What have we learned so far? > > > We learned from 1979 through
> > > 2000 that people would install PV at 25% > > growth rate, doubling the
> > > installed quantity every 3 years. > > Cite, please.
> >
> > > Your fingers broken?
> >
> > No. Is your mind?
> >
> > Here's a factoid so even an abusive ass like yourself can understand it:
> >
> > YOU make a claim. YOU have the burden of proof.
>
> Peter B. P. made this claim without carrying his burden of proof that
> the claim is valid: "YOU make a claim. YOU have the burden of proof."
> why were there no cites to validate your claim? How dare you make a
> claim without a cite validating your claim?
You don't hvae a daytime job, do you?
Tsk tsk. You just can't open your fucking hole without rancid effluvium
comes pouring out by the bucketloads.
You grew up in a dysfunctional family, didnt you? Did your Exxon-emplyed
father beat you with his belt evey night since you think everyone that
slightly disagrees with you have anything to do with Exxon?
Hydrogen TRUTH
> > > > growth of cumulative installed capacity in the IEA PVPS countries remained
> > > > fairly steady at an impressive 42 %, with Germany's cumulative installed
> > > > capacity growing at 80 % (similar to the previous year) and Japan's growth
> > > > rate also quite steady at 26 %. The corresponding figures for growth of
> > > > the annual markets are 40 % for IEA PVPS countries, 75 % for Germany and 6
> > > > % for Japan. These growth rates have resulted in Germany now overtaking
> > > > Japan with the highest level of installed capacity both in terms of total
> > > > capacity (1 429 MW) and installed capacity per capita (17,3 W/capita).
>
> > > Ahh, data. Now, that wasn't so hard, was it? Even for a "liberal"...
>
> > > Lesson learned, Kuntz: In the future, put up the data before you open
> > > your rotten piehole.
>
> > Ask Mr Exxon to remove his engorged organ affixed in your quivering
> > anxious asp when you say that, right-turd.
>
> Tsk tsk. You just can't open your fucking hole without rancid effluvium
> comes pouring out by the bucketloads.
>
> You grew up in a dysfunctional family, didnt you? Did your Exxon-emplyed
> father beat you with his belt evey night since you think everyone that
> slightly disagrees with you have anything to do with Exxon?
Tsk Tsk, thinking everybody had the same home life you did. Keep on
taking DNA samples of all the drunken sailors that were in port the
night you were conceived -- I'm sure you'll eventually identify your
real dad. (I pray to God, I hope it wasn't me, although there were
lots of cheap hookers and I was mighty drunk that night after months
at sea.)
Peter B. P.
> > > > Ahh, data. Now, that wasn't so hard, was it? Even for a "liberal"...
> >
> > > > Lesson learned, Kuntz: In the future, put up the data before you open
> > > > your rotten piehole.
> >
> > > Ask Mr Exxon to remove his engorged organ affixed in your quivering
> > > anxious asp when you say that, right-turd.
> >
> > Tsk tsk. You just can't open your fucking hole without rancid effluvium
> > comes pouring out by the bucketloads.
> >
> > You grew up in a dysfunctional family, didnt you? Did your Exxon-emplyed
> > father beat you with his belt evey night since you think everyone that
> > slightly disagrees with you have anything to do with Exxon?
>
> Tsk Tsk, thinking everybody had the same home life you did. Keep on
> taking DNA samples of all the drunken sailors that were in port the
> night you were conceived -- I'm sure you'll eventually identify your
> real dad. (I pray to God, I hope it wasn't me, although there were
> lots of cheap hookers and I was mighty drunk that night after months
> at sea.)
You really had a hard childhood, didn't you?
Lion, are you brain damaged? No, seriously. I'm really concerned that
you're incapable of handling life in the real world, and you're just a
mentally handicapped relic having to stay indoors, away from the rest of
society due to your inherent sociopathic tendencies.
Or have you merely forgot to take your anxiety supressing meds?
Hydrogen TRUTH
Are YOU the same Peter B. P. who was crapping his drawers over "libel"
statements about the scofflaw Ray Lopez? We see your "sincerity"
lasted what, 24 hours, was it? BY the way, your equally staunch
defense of this "Lion Kuntz" guy you are cyber-stalking now, when
Hanson-Turds.Exxon-Turds was saying all those libellous things shows
you unbiased devotion to truth justice and the Merican Way. Got to
hand it too you, you had me convince you weren't sociopathic, NOT!!!
Eeyore
Don Lancaster wrote:
> Eeyore wrote:
> >
> > A regular 19% reduction over 10 years would mean a $600 100W panel would >
> cost $73 in 2017. Or $25 in 2022 !
> >
> > Does that seem likely ?
>
> I would expect prices to drop FAR more dramatically than that, once
> fully burdened net energy breakeven is acheived.
Your brain's turned to putty again.
Graham
Peter B. P.
Why? Are you complaining? Double standards, eh?
> BY the way, your equally staunch defense of this "Lion Kuntz" guy
Yes, you, Lion.
> you are cyber-stalking now, when Hanson-Turds.Exxon-Turds was saying all
> those libellous things shows you unbiased devotion to truth justice and
> the Merican Way. Got to hand it too you, you had me convince you weren't
> sociopathic, NOT!!!
It's obvious that you are. Get help, Lion. Or at least take your meds.
Peter B. P.
One sq. foot of PV panel costs considerable more than 10 cents.
Try 100 dollars instead.
Lion, you are not doing your cause a favor by lying about the price of
what it takes to realize your PV dream.
Hydrogen TRUTH
-- But Perlso keeps taking old sailors DNA looking for his REAL DAD.
hanson
Lion Kuntz aka "Awe Shit", the pedohile sphincterstrecher
grieveously whined as "Awe Shit" aka "Hydrogen TRUTH" aka
Lion Kuntz aka "Awe Shit", <Hydrog...@HydrogenTRUTH.info>
when he w/i news:1172195749.4...@v33g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
> On Feb 22, 5:40 pm, p...@DIESPAMMERDIE.dk (Peter B. P.) wrote:
>> Hydrogen TRUTH <HydrogenTR...@HydrogenTRUTH.info> wrote:
>> > > > > Ahh, data. Now, that wasn't so hard, was it? Even for a
>> > > > > "liberal"...
>>
>> > > > > Lesson learned, Kuntz: In the future, put up the data before you
>> > > > > open
>> > > > > your rotten piehole.
>>
>> > > > Ask Mr Exxon to remove his engorged organ affixed in your quivering
>> > > > anxious asp when you say that, right-turd.
>>
>> > > Tsk tsk. You just can't open your fucking hole without rancid
>> > > effluvium
>> > > comes pouring out by the bucketloads.
>> > > You grew up in a dysfunctional family, didnt you? Did your
>> > > Exxon-emplyed
>> > > father beat you with his belt evey night since you think everyone
>> > > that
>> > > slightly disagrees with you have anything to do with Exxon?
>>
>> > Tsk Tsk, thinking everybody had the same home life you did. Keep on
>> > taking DNA samples of all the drunken sailors that were in port the
>> > night you were conceived -- I'm sure you'll eventually identify your
>> > real dad. (I pray to God, I hope it wasn't me, although there were
>> > lots of cheap hookers and I was mighty drunk that night after months
>> > at sea.)
>>
>> You really had a hard childhood, didn't you?
>> Lion, are you brain damaged? No, seriously. I'm really concerned that
>> you're incapable of handling life in the real world, and you're just a
>> mentally handicapped relic having to stay indoors, away from the rest of
>> society due to your inherent sociopathic tendencies.
>> Or have you merely forgot to take your anxiety supressing meds?
>
> Are YOU the same Peter B. P. who was crapping his drawers over "libel"
> statements about the scofflaw Ray Lopez? We see your "sincerity"
> lasted what, 24 hours, was it? BY the way, your equally staunch defense
> Hanson-Turds.Exxon-Turds was saying all those libellous things shows
> you unbiased devotion to truth justice and the Merican Way. Got to
> hand it too you, you had me convince you weren't sociopathic, NOT!!!
>
ahahahaha... AHAHAHA... this is too much, Leon... ahaha... how Peter
B.P. makes you crank yourself in your basement to no end... AHAHA...
To boot, you Lion Kuntz aka "Awe Shit", seem to be desperately trying
to hide yourself and distance yourself from yourself now, you the pervert
sphincterstreching pedophile that you were announcing to be in
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.global-warming/msg/9f54b270313ab7d7
Here read again why you, Lion Kuntz aka "Awe Shit", are quaking in
your boots.... unabated... ahahaha... It's coming, Loin Kunts, it's
coming:.::
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.global-warming/msg/9f54b270313ab7d7
ahahaha.... Send a post card, when they allow you to do so... ahahaha..
You are always good for a chuckle, "Lion Kuntz"... ahahaha.... ahahanson
Don Lancaster
There is no particular reason to expect pv panels to cost more than roof
shingles in a decade or two.
bill
> >>cost $73 in 2017. Or $25 in 2022 !
> >>>Does that seem likely ?
> >>I would expect prices to drop FAR more dramatically than that, once
> >>fully burdened net energy breakeven is acheived.
> > Your brain's turned to putty again.
> There is no particular reason to expect pv panels to cost more than roof
> shingles in a decade or two.
yeah, there's no reason to expect precision machined 8 nines
purity semiconductors with silver contacts to cost more than tar
covered paper. Right.
Idiot.
http://Hanson-Turd.Exxon-Turds.info
> ahahahaha... AHAHAHA... ahahaha... ahaha... AHAHAHAHA...
> Lion Kuntz aka "Awe Shit", the pedohile sphincterstrecher
> grieveously whined as "Awe Shit" aka "Hydrogen TRUTH" aka
> when he w/inews:1172195749.4...@v33g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
> Here read again why you, Lion Kuntz aka "Awe Shit", are quaking in
> your boots.... unabated... ahahaha... It's coming, Loin Kunts, it's
> coming:.::http://groups.google.com/group/alt.global-warming/msg/9f54b270313ab7d7
> ahahaha.... Send a post card, when they allow you to do so... ahahaha..
> You are always good for a chuckle, "Lion Kuntz"... ahahaha.... ahahanson
Why are you saying all those nasty things about the cyber-cafe owner?
What did he ever do to you hanson?
Don Lancaster
Which is precisely why machined 8 nines purity semiconductors with
silver contacts will not EVER be used in net energy pv panels. These
technologies have had their chance and totally blew it.
Think inkjet on massive sheets instead.
http://www.tinaja.com/glib/energfun.pdf
bill
> bill wrote:
> >>>>>A regular 19% reduction over 10 years would mean a $600 100W panel would
>
> >>>>cost $73 in 2017. Or $25 in 2022 !
>
> >>>>>Does that seem likely ?
>
> >>>>I would expect prices to drop FAR more dramatically than that, once
> >>>>fully burdened net energy breakeven is acheived.
>
> >>>Your brain's turned to putty again.
>
> >>There is no particular reason to expect pv panels to cost more than roof
> >>shingles in a decade or two.
>
> > yeah, there's no reason to expect precision machined 8 nines
> > purity semiconductors with silver contacts to cost more than tar
> > covered paper. Right.
>
> Which is precisely why machined 8 nines purity semiconductors with
> silver contacts will not EVER be used in net energy pv panels. These
> technologies have had their chance and totally blew it.
>
> Think inkjet on massive sheets instead.
cite please.
http://Hanson-Turd.Exxon-Turds.info
You said "precision machined 8 nines purity semiconductors with silver
contacts" but he said "pv panels". You hurt Don's feelings now, since
he hates Silicon PV, obviously that would not be what he is talking
about. He Don, did you know that Bill really ignores everything you
say?
Don would be talking about CIGS or Quantum Dots or unicorns,
vaporware, anything that isn't really on the market to help delay
sales of of products he is paid to sabotage that actually are
available today for purchase.
By telling you to delay any long-term commitments, he steals customers
away from his employer's competitors, and injures their business...
actually injures America, but his employers have been doing that for a
century.
People don't roof with "tar paper" in the first place, and
Asphalt composition roofing shingles are already precision machined
within the tolerances set for them by expensive freakin' machines, and
5-nines purity (with 8-nines boron and phoshorus) is not that hard,
and
The human race has 60 years accumulated knowhow at getting better at
the whole thing.
Put those TRUE FACTS together and Don is unwittingly correct.
The cost per square foot of Si PV will hit 30 cents per square foot,
same as the cost of cheap asphalt composition shingles in a decade.
That's on the ground materials, not roof-installed.
Actually, there's every reason to expect composition shingles to
increase in cost rapidly, as primarily derived from oil refinery
wastes. Just as a reminder, it was the ASPHALT REFINERY part of
Valero's Oil Refinery that blew it's top last week in a disaster WORSE
THAN THE HINDENBURG.
With refinery fires on average once a week over the last two months,
you'll be lucky if you can buy gasoline, let alone asphalt out of
these ever-more-expensive refineries.
Even tar paper is likely to get too expensive -- you are headed
towards flattening beer cans for shingles like some third world
squattertown because you kept all your eggs in one energy basket with
no backup plan.
bill
>
> Asphalt composition roofing shingles are already precision machined
> within the tolerances set for them by expensive freakin' machines, and
Yeah, asphalt shingles are felt PAPER saturated with tar with
sand sprinkled on. Fiberglass shingles are the same thing except with
glass filaments impregnated into the paper. and there's absolutely no
precision involved in the machining, a single shingle can have
thickness variations in excess of 1/16 inch. saturated zones,
unsaturaed zones and dimensional variations of up to 10% try that on
pv panels and you will never get a watt of power out of them.
> 5-nines purity (with 8-nines boron and phoshorus) is not that hard,
> and
> The human race has 60 years accumulated knowhow at getting better at
> the whole thing.
> Put those TRUE FACTS together and Don is unwittingly correct.
now, if 5 nines purity were good enough, we'd be set, but alas,
it isn't.
> The cost per square foot of Si PV will hit 30 cents per square foot,
> same as the cost of cheap asphalt composition shingles in a millenium
> That's on the ground materials, not roof-installed.
> Actually, there's every reason to expect composition shingles to
> increase in cost rapidly, as primarily derived from oil refinery
> wastes. Just as a reminder, it was the ASPHALT REFINERY part of
> Valero's Oil Refinery that blew it's top last week in a disaster WORSE
> THAN THE HINDENBURG.
shit happens, if pv were manufactured in the quantities asphalt
is, you'd see dozens of dead workers due to hydroflouric acid
exposure, industry is dangerous, get used to it.
Exxon Creams on Hanson
> > 5-nines purity (with 8-nines boron and phoshorus) is not that hard,
> > and
> > The human race has 60 years accumulated knowhow at getting better at
> > the whole thing.
> > Put those TRUE FACTS together and Don is unwittingly correct.
>
> now, if 5 nines purity were good enough, we'd be set, but alas,
> it isn't.
See, you are getting close to admitting what everybody else knows,
that 5-nines is indeed sufficient, and we are set.
The acid wash is what gets rid of those pesky boron and phosphorus too
small to even be detected by normal chemical analysis techniques. If
it wasn't for that step Solar-Grade PV would already be cheaper than
tar paper roofs, which it will be in ten years as that step gets
totally automated.
The silicon is nothing but sand and oxygen, and the aluminum even
resides in the same ore deposits sometimes. It's cheap, cheap, cheap,
once you know what you are doing. You couldn't explain it to anybody
100 years ago, and you can't explain it to anybody whose knowledge is
still 100 years behind the times, but not everybody is a stoopid
hillbilly gun-nut.
Arnold Walker
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Don Lancaster
All over the web.
Google for CIGS solar
http://www.isetinc.com/cigs.html
http://www.nanosolar.com/printablesemiconductors.htm
http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9584_22-6130312.html
etc etc etc etc...
Arnold Walker
"Arnold Walker" <arnold...@consolidated.net> wrote in message
news:1172266...@sp6iad.superfeed.net...
>
> "Exxon Creams on Hanson" <Death-Rag.Suc...@ecovilliage.us> wrote
> in message news:1172264394.9...@v33g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
>> On Feb 23, 12:30 pm, "bill" <ford_prefec...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> > 5-nines purity (with 8-nines boron and phoshorus) is not that hard,
>>> > and
>>> > The human race has 60 years accumulated knowhow at getting better at
>>> > the whole thing.
>>> > Put those TRUE FACTS together and Don is unwittingly correct.
>>>
>>> now, if 5 nines purity were good enough, we'd be set, but alas,
>>> it isn't.
>>
>> See, you are getting close to admitting what everybody else knows,
>> that 5-nines is indeed sufficient, and we are set.
>>
>> The acid wash is what gets rid of those pesky boron and phosphorus too
>> small to even be detected by normal chemical analysis techniques. If
>> it wasn't for that step Solar-Grade PV would already be cheaper than
>> tar paper roofs, which it will be in ten years as that step gets
>> totally automated.
>>
>> The silicon is nothing but sand and oxygen, and the aluminum even
>> resides in the same ore deposits sometimes. It's cheap, cheap, cheap,
>> once you know what you are doing. You couldn't explain it to anybody
>> 100 years ago, and you can't explain it to anybody whose knowledge is
>> still 100 years behind the times, but not everybody is a stoopid
>> hillbilly gun-nut.
> So,how many millions has your solar installation made you in net metering?
enorgh
power revenues to be reinvesting in those panels like you are preaching.
You are a billionaire, yet?
I still see better numbers coming out of biomass at this time....but then
that is why I run a steam plant.
Something I honestly don't see you doing with your beerbottle plant.
Carbon Criminal Polluters
wrote:
> "Exxon Creams on Hanson" <Death-Rag.Sucks.Exxon.D...@ecovilliage.us> wrote
> in messagenews:1172264394.9...@v33g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
>
> > On Feb 23, 12:30 pm, "bill" <ford_prefec...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> > 5-nines purity (with 8-nines boron and phoshorus) is not that hard,
> >> > and
> >> > The human race has 60 years accumulated knowhow at getting better at
> >> > the whole thing.
> >> > Put those TRUE FACTS together and Don is unwittingly correct.
>
> >> now, if 5 nines purity were good enough, we'd be set, but alas,
> >> it isn't.
>
> > See, you are getting close to admitting what everybody else knows,
> > that 5-nines is indeed sufficient, and we are set.
>
> > The acid wash is what gets rid of those pesky boron and phosphorus too
> > small to even be detected by normal chemical analysis techniques. If
> > it wasn't for that step Solar-Grade PV would already be cheaper than
> > tar paper roofs, which it will be in ten years as that step gets
> > totally automated.
>
> > The silicon is nothing but sand and oxygen, and the aluminum even
> > resides in the same ore deposits sometimes. It's cheap, cheap, cheap,
> > once you know what you are doing. You couldn't explain it to anybody
> > 100 years ago, and you can't explain it to anybody whose knowledge is
> > still 100 years behind the times, but not everybody is a stoopid
> > hillbilly gun-nut.
>
> So,how many millions has your solar installation made you in net metering?
837 MW in Germany times four hours peak daily (guessing) = 3,348
MWhrs, times 50 cents retail mandatory price =$1,674,000,000. That
$1.6 BILLION in Germany as of LAST YEAR. That's also an avoided 140 MW
coal plant.
http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hs=Ici&q=Global+%7C+world+PV+installed&btnG=Search
2006 WORLD PV INDUSTRY REPORT HIGHLIGHTS:
World Solar PV Market up 34% in 2005; 837 Megawatts Installed In
Germany
World solar photovoltaic (PV) market installations reached a record
high of 1,460 Megawatts (MW) in 2005, representing annual growth of
34%.
Germany's PV market installations grew 53% to 837 Megawatts in 2005,
corresponding to 57% of the world market.
This is a level eight times the size of the United States market.
Japan's 14% growth took it to 292 MW.
Solar cell production reached a consolidated figure of 1,656 MW in
2005, up from 1,146 MW. Japanese producers maintained their leadership
with 46% share, while Europe accounted for 28%. US cell production was
156 MW in 2005.
Cumulative installed solar PV electricity generating capacity expanded
by 39% in 2005 and now exceeds 5 Gigawatts worldwide. Investment in
new plant to manufacture solar cells exceeded $1 billion in 2005.
Meanwhile, the PV industry raised more than $1.8 billion on capital
markets over the past 12 months across 27 recorded financial
transactions.
Despite a rise of 12% in silicon feedstock capacity, tight supply
caused long-term polysilicon contract prices to increase by up to 25%.
Solarbuzz market demand forecast scenarios show worldwide industry
revenues will reach $18.6 to $23.1 billion with annual PV
installations between 3.2 and 3.9 Gigawatts in 2010.
As the rate of increase in German demand is set to moderate, the
report highlights the growth in Southern Europe, which has become the
new target for rapid market development.
Marketbuzz 2006 also projects resolution of current silicon supply
shortfalls within the five-year forecast period.
Carbon Criminal Polluters
wrote:
> "Arnold Walker" <arnoldwal...@consolidated.net> wrote in message
>
> news:1172266...@sp6iad.superfeed.net...
>
>
>
> > "Exxon Creams on Hanson" <Death-Rag.Sucks.Exxon.D...@ecovilliage.us> wrote
> > in messagenews:1172264394.9...@v33g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
Yeah the yokels used to line up at Kitty Hawk to watch the Wright
Brother break their necks too. Did you aspire to be a yokel when you
grew up, or did it just happen?
Eeyore
Don Lancaster wrote:
> Eeyore wrote:
> > Don Lancaster wrote:
> >>Eeyore wrote:
> >>
> >>>A regular 19% reduction over 10 years would mean a $600 100W panel >>>would
> cost $73 in 2017. Or $25 in 2022 !
> >>
> >>>Does that seem likely ?
> >>
> >>I would expect prices to drop FAR more dramatically than that, once
> >>fully burdened net energy breakeven is acheived.
> >
> > Your brain's turned to putty again.
>
> There is no particular reason to expect pv panels to cost more than roof
> shingles in a decade or two.
I suspect it would be fruitless to expect you to explain that comment but I'll
give it a try anyway.
Why's that Don ?
Graham
Carbon Criminal Polluters
EEYORE the LIE-ore... Don's going to be hurt that you never paid any
attention to his drunken ramblings told scores of times over and over.
Don believes in the CIGS fairy and the Quantum Dots Leprechan are
going to stop being vaporware "real soon now" and cover every house
which cheaper than silicon (which is cheap as dirt) PV. He 'gotcha"
because you can only think of PV as silicon, which he hates because
the Priest at the Church of Exxon said it's Satanic.
Don Lancaster
Both will end up as high volume mass produced commodities of comparable
complexity.
Don Lancaster
There is NO conventional silicon pv that EVER has produced net energy.
The whole conventional silicon pv industry is a smoke and mirror scam to
delude people into buying gasoline destroying net energy sinks. It is a
classic example of an engineering rathole.
ABSOLUTE PROOF of this is that not one utility anyplace ever is using
silicon pv for routine subsidy free and greeniepr free avoided cost
peaking. Because it costs too damn much. And that they have dramatically
scaled back on research site expansions until some product arrives that
has a snowball's chance in hell of eventually producing competitive net
energy emerges.
http://www.tinaja.com/glib/energfun.pdf for a detailed tutorial
http://www.tinaja.com/whtnu07.asp for continuing updates.
http://www.tinaja.com/glib/ratholes.pdf for a study of other engineering
ratholes.
hanson
Loin Kunts having beenthe "cyber-cafe owner", for 1 hour, has
demoted himself now into just being the manager of the "cyber-cafe:
Lion Kuntz, the identify thief aka "http://Hanson-Turd.Exxon-Turds.info"
Lion Kuntz aka "Awe Shit" aka Fecal.Fascin...@Exxon-Turds.info>
w/i news:1172256937.8...@z35g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
Lion Kuntz aka "Awe Shit", the pedohile sphincterstrecher
grieveously whined as "Awe Shit" aka "Hydrogen TRUTH" aka
Lion Kuntz aka "Awe Shit", <HydrogenTR...@HydrogenTRUTH.info>
when he w/i
news:1172195749.4...@v33g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
>
["Awe Shit" to Peter]
Ask Mr Exxon to remove his engorged organ affixed in your
>>
["Awe Shit" to Peter]
I'm sure you'll eventually identify your real dad. (I pray to God, I
hope it wasn't me, although there were lots of cheap hookers
and I was mighty drunk that night after months at sea.)
>>
Are YOU the same Peter B. P. who was crapping his drawers over "libel"
statements about the scofflaw Ray Lopez? We see your "sincerity"
lasted what, 24 hours, was it? BY the way, your equally staunch defense
of this "Lion Kuntz" aka "Awe Shit" guy you are cyber-stalking now, when
Hanson-Turds.Exxon-Turds was saying all those libellous things shows
you unbiased devotion to truth justice and the Merican Way. Got to
hand it too you, you had me convince you weren't sociopathic, NOT!!!
>>
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.energy/msg/e1ec04af0427b074
ahahahaha... AHAHAHA... this is too much, Leon... ahaha... how Peter
B.P. makes you crank yourself in your basement to no end... AHAHA...
To boot, you Lion Kuntz aka "Awe Shit", seem to be desperately trying
to hide yourself and distance yourself from yourself now, you the pervert
sphincterstreching pedophile that you were announcing to be in
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.global-warming/msg/9f54b270313ab7d7
Here read again why you, Lion Kuntz aka "Awe Shit", are quaking in
your boots.... unabated... ahahaha... It's coming, Loin Kunts, it's
coming:.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.global-warming/msg/9f54b270313ab7d7
ahahaha.... Send a post card, when they allow you to do so... ahahaha..
You are always good for a chuckle, "Lion Kuntz"... ahahaha.... ahahanson
>
Why are you saying all those nasty things about the cyber-cafe owner?
What did he ever do to you hanson?
>
ahahaha... AHAHAHAHA.. ahahahaha... AHAHAHAHAHA...
"Awe Shit-Loin Kunts", the cyber cafe-owner... ahahaha...
That's a good one, "Awe Shit". You get 3 attaboys for that!
Now then, let me administer to you, "Awe Shit", for your benefit:
"nasty" you say?... It's not nasty at all. It's only the cyber echo of
YOUR own calls in your "cyber cafe" ...i.e. just look at the above
examples of how YOU talked to Peter... What's your complaint?
>
Now, you "Awe Shit", whom you now refer to as "he", whines:
What did *he* ever do to hanson?... ahahahaha...
So then, let me administer to you, "Awe Shit", for your benefit:
You, Lion, are now turning again into "Stupid Shit" and forget
that you use MY handle/nym in your subject lines, your posts, your
own handles and you, Lion, even made a website using "hanson".
So give me one good reason why I shouldn't have fun with you,
when you have stolen/plagiarized/adopted and constantly use
"hanson"?... ahaha... What a fucking ingrate you are "Awe Shit"!
>
Listen "Awe Shit", as long as the computer program picks up and
spits out any 'hanson'-containing posts of yours, the interns and
recruits will continue to have fun with you... ahahaha... and like
I said: "You are always good for a chuckle, "Lion Kuntz"... ahahaha
What's your complaint again, "AweShit"?.... AHAHA... AHAHAHA...
>
Here are a few examples of chuckles caused by you Loin Cunts
aka "Awe Shit", you the cause celebre of the cyber cafe... hahahaha...
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.energy/msg/f7dfe3bbe09b0498
which you proudly accepted and reposted here without comment
you having turned below now from owner into manager... ahahaha....:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.energy/msg/3b73105b00e2ac8d.
What's your complaint again, "Awe Shit"?.... AHAHA... AHAHAHA.
>
Thanks for the laughs, "Awe Shit" .... ahahaha... ahahahanson
http://Hanson-Turd.Exxon-Turds.info
> ahahahAHAHA...AHAHAHAHA.... ahahahaha... Good one!.
> Thanks for the laughs, "Awe Shit" .... ahahaha... ahahahanson
For $.99 you can buy a website name from GoDaddy.com and my cybercafe
owner will host it for you on his reseller program account for $5 a
year, with UNLIMITED email accounts. Isn't that a great deal? Come on
cheapskate, you can afford $1 to become Hanson-Turds.Exxon-Turds.info
can't you, with the fat checks you said Exxon was paying you?
Then you could spam the internet with fake names like frigwatch and
GayLopez and Bawama.mama. You could even let my cyber cafe owner take
the blame, since he's so senile I don't think he pays attention.
Come on, retire that stoopid "hanson" alias and get something 21st
century going.
Hanson.Rocket-Turds, maybe, or Hansonlicious.turds, or ohh ohh ohh,
this is great turdy.turd.and.turd if you are a new yoiker.
dave.w...@comcast.net
<HydrogenTR...@HydrogenTRUTH.info> wrote:
> On Feb 22, 11:43 am, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > > "Hydrogen TRUTH" <HydrogenTR...@HydrogenTRUTH.info> wrote:
>
>
> > > >We learned from 1979 through 2000 that people would install PV at 25%
> > > >growth rate, doubling the installed quantity every 3 years.
>
> > > sure. with a large tax credit. let's see if you need a tax credit to
> > > maintain that rate...
>
> > > >We learned the price went down 19% for PV every time we doubled the
> > > >installed base.
>
> > > ok. i'll accept that. for now. the curve may flatten as time goes
> > > on, unless there is a big technical innovation.
>
> > $73 in 2017. Or $25 in 2022 !
>
> > Does that seem likely ?
>
>
> EEYORE the LIE-ore
>
> THe sghits made of the same stuff that beer bottles and beer cans are
> made of. What's a foot square of beer bottles and beer cans crushed
> down to the thickness of a business card? 30 cents? 10 cents? 5 cents?
>
> There is 12 watts power production in every sq.ft of polycrystal PV @
>
> - Show quoted text -
Hohoho Hanson Loves Exxon's Brown Turds, not Green Ones
Eeyore
Don Lancaster wrote:
> Eeyore wrote:
> > Don Lancaster wrote:
> >
> >>There is no particular reason to expect pv panels to cost more than roof
> >>shingles in a decade or two.
> >
> > I suspect it would be fruitless to expect you to explain that comment but I'll
> > give it a try anyway.
> >
> > Why's that Don ?
>
>
> Both will end up as high volume mass produced commodities of comparable
> complexity.
Is that a cryptic way of saying that the roof 'shingles' will actually be PV panels
?
Graham
hanson
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.energy/msg/f7dfe3bbe09b0498
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.energy/msg/bfff9bbf9c922f9c
>
ahahahAHAHA...AHAHAHAHA.... ahaha... Good one again!...
Loin Kunts having been the "cyber-cafe owner", for 1 hour, has
demoted himself into just being the manager of the "cyber-cafe.
*** LK now poses as the 99 cents promoter for his "cyber-cafe"
*** by advocating criminal spamming of the web to get away from
*** being known as Lion Kuntz, the pedo & sphincter stretcher.
*** Lion Kuntz lies dumber & tries to cover his criminal tracks
*** even more 'cuz he, LK, pretends to be a kid, now... ahahaha...
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.energy/msg/711be36c8c9c8869
>
-- earlier... Loin Cunts, the geriatric unlimited 99 cents promoter,Lion Kuntz aka "Awe Shit" aka Fecal.Fascination.Han...@Exxon-Turds.info>
w/i news:1172256937.8...@z35g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
Lion Kuntz aka "Awe Shit", the pedohile sphincter-stretcher
grieveously whined as "Awe Shit" aka "Hydrogen TRUTH" aka
Lion Kuntz aka "Awe Shit", <HydrogenTR...@HydrogenTRUTH.info>
news:1172276684.6...@h3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>
"hanson" <han...@quick.net> wrote:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.energy/msg/bfff9bbf9c922f9c
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.energy/msg/e1ec04af0427b074
ahahahAHAHA...AHAHAHAHA.... ahahahaha... Good one!.
Thanks for the laughs, "Awe Shit" .... ahahaha... ahahahanson
>
For $.99 you can buy a website name from GoDaddy.com and
my cybercafe owner will host it for you on his reseller program
account for $5 a year, with UNLIMITED email accounts.
Isn't that a great deal? Come on cheapskate, you can afford
$1 to become Hanson-Turds.Exxon-Turds.info can't you,
with the fat checks you said Exxon was paying you?
>
So, your prior complaints have suddenly evaporated, with you
quaking in your boots because you realize what you have done
and now you try to schmooze me?... ahahaha.. Nice try, but fat
chance, "Awe Shit". I have offered you repeatedly cyber changes
to make big money, but you've behaved like a "Stupid Shit"
and you've turned it down and now you come back with 99-cent
deals... ahaha... AHAHAHA... AHAHAHAHA... ahahahaha...
No wonder that you are in the welfare predicament you are in
now, "Awe Shit", saying it in your own words:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.energy/msg/f7dfe3bbe09b0498
:LK:: "I cherish my anonymity... living in that basement in a secure,
:LK:: undisclosed Location... as Lion Kuntz , Retired with walker, in
:LK:: Santa Rosa, Sonoma Co., California, USA "
>
["Awe Shit"]
> Then you could spam the internet with fake names like frigwatch
> and GayLopez and Bawama.mama. You could even let my cyber
> cafe owner take the blame, since he's so senile I don't think he
> pays attention.
>
So, Lion, YOU the "owner-manager-promoter of your cyber cafe"
have declared now that 1/3 of your persona is "senile"... But that
is no defense and it **still** leaves you culpable for you prompting
your criminal spamming of the web.
IOW, with your criminal action here, "Awe Shit", by you desperately
trying to distance yourself from your prior crimes of promoting
pedophilia and anal perversions (your sphincter stretching) on the
web, you now have added other chargers to your raps sheet:
Cover-up, advocacy of Spamming, accusing mentally impaired
people, your "owner", for your own crimes... not to forget your
evasion attempts via your past and current multi-nym postings,
which only you as Lion Kuntz, the "Stupid Shit" believes to be
working, when in fact you can be traced seamlessly back to
*** "Melchizedek" <Gods_Fist at sbcglobal.net>, who was aka
*** "Milks his Dick"... ahahaha... AHAHAHA....
It of course causes a chuckle, "Awe Shit", but even if you now
finally do confess that you, Lion, are senile... ahahaha... still, those
certain "others" will take a very dim view of your criminal cyber
behavior here, you producing Spam, pedophilia and trying to
blame others for your own despicable criminal acts, ... they will
follow you to discharge their sworn duties... .. Sheesh, Lion...
Are you drunk that early in the day already again, "Awe Shit",
that you come to me now with your criminal proposals?.. or Lion,
listen, (I asked you before) What type of medication are you on?
It may produce ameliorating circumstances for you, BUT it will be
no defense for you, considering your web search for pedophiles
and sphincter stretchers, like you yourself proudly stated to be::
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.global-warming/msg/9f54b270313ab7d7
>
"Awe Shit"
> Come on, retire that stoopid "hanson" alias and get something
> 21st century going. Hanson.Rocket-Turds, maybe, or
> Hansonlicious.turds, or ohh ohh ohh, this is great turdy.turd.and.turd
> if you are a new yoiker.
>
[hanson]
What's this "Come on" gag, Lion? Your escape efforts for you to
try to get out of that "Sadams noose" of yours that you were
preparing for yourself isn't working since, obviously, you are still
quaking and quivering because of what's in here:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.energy/msg/bfff9bbf9c922f9c
and you know it's coming, Lion, juts as it says in here:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.global-warming/msg/9f54b270313ab7d7
>
Lion, as long as there are any references of/about "hanson" in
any of your posts you'll be digging your hole deeper and your
dreams of making the US into H2PV will move further and farther
away from you... and Exxon ansd OPEC willl make more and
more money and you will become a sicker and sicker fuck-up.
It's your call, your dance, Leon!.. ahaha... But thanks for the laughs.
ahahahaha... ahahahanson
>
>
PS: ..AHAHAHAHA... as can be seen, predictably and obediently
Lion Kuntz aka "Awe Shit", dances to hanson tune & "Milks his Dick"
with ferocity and posts feverishly using the hanson nym in alomst
every post... ahahahaha... Dance, monkey, dance!.... ahahahaha...
Hanson.Cy...@exxon-turds.info
groups.google.com Results 1 - 100 of about 1,560 for Hanson Green
Turds
http://www.google.com/search?q=Hanson%20Green%20Turds&sa=N&tab=gw
google.com Results 1 - 100 of about 71,300 for Hanson Green Turds.
http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&safe=off&q=Exxon+Turds&btnG=Search
Results 1 - 100 of about 53,700 for Exxon Turds.
WELL LOOKY THAT! Look who has floated up to the top of the bowl...
it's Turds Hanson. Just say the magic words "Exxon Turds" and Hanson
ends up on top of the list. It's like magic or something.
hanson
ahahahaha.... AHAHAHAHA.... ahahahaha...
Lion Kuntz here as <Hanson.Cy...@Exxon-Turds.info> wrote in
news:1172294072....@s48g2000cws.googlegroups.com...
> q=Hanson
> search?q=Hanson
>Hanson
> Results Hanson
> the top Hanson.
> Just say the magic word Hanson
> ends up on top of the list.
> It's like magic or something.
>
Lion Kuntz,
I am flattered that "hanson" has become your holy Mantra.
>
But you repeating it is not going to get you off welfare, Loin,
nor will your post that is immaterial & of no consequence do
so, because, sadly, you continue to remain Lion Kuntz aka
"Awe Shit", being a "Stupid Shit" like you were in here:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.energy/msg/443387786282d902
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.energy/msg/0f8702632d6f962a
>
Leon, realize that you are product of the *Fear-industry-complex* as
shown in the 2 hr show "Scared Stiff" on 23-Feb-07 by John Stossel:
http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=2899268
http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=2893367
http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=2896180
http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=2890330
which ought to show you that you are a sorry, terrified victim of/by &
thru the cult of ** The green Bible & its enviro Theology ** that says:
= "It doesn't matter what is true ... it only matters what people
= believe is true. -- Paul Watson, Sea Shepard/ex-Greenpeace
... and more in:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.environment/msg/20543afd0304b3f3
>
Face that, acknowledge it, take heed & for the 1st time, Lion, you can
http://www.superlaugh.com/1/behappy.htm. ---* Do it! * ----
ahahaha... ahahahahanson
hanson
Lion Kuntz here as <Hanson.Cy...@Exxon-Turds.info> wrote in
news:1172294072....@s48g2000cws.googlegroups.com...
> q=Hanson
> search?q=Hanson
>Hanson
> Results Hanson
> Just say the magic word Hanson
> ends up on top of the list.
> It's like magic or something.
>
Hydrogen FREEDOM
> Dave, watch "Awe Shit" dance now... ahahaha.... ahahanson
http://groups.google.com/groups/search?q=Hanson+Green+Turds&start=0&scoring=d&
groups.google.com Results 1 - 100 of about 1,560 for Hanson Green
Turds
http://www.google.com/search?q=Hanson%20Green%20Turds&sa=N&tab=gw
google.com Results 1 - 100 of about 71,300 for Hanson Green Turds.
http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&safe=off&q=Exxon+Turds&btnG=Search
Results 1 - 100 of about 53,700 for Exxon Turds.
WELL LOOKY THAT! Look who has floated up to the top of the bowl...
it's Turds Hanson. Just say the magic words "Exxon Turds" and Hanson
ends up on top of the list. It's like magic or something.
Hey Hanson? Do you have top pay extra to google for that?
Anybody can do it: just give it a try. Type EXXON TURDS and see who
comes up in NUMERO UNO spot.
Try typing other Turds associations and see what comes up top.
hanson
Lion Kuntz here as <Hanson.Cy...@Exxon-Turds.info> wrote in
> On Feb 23, 8:43 pm, "hanson" <han...@quick.net> wrote:
>> Dave, watch "Awe Shit" dance now... ahahaha.... ahahanson
>
& predictably disciple Lion Kuntz aka "Awe Shit" obediently danced
and then he chanted for his Guru hanson with these words of prayer:
>
[Lion Kuntz]
> q=Hanson
> search?q=Hanson
> Hanson
> Results Hanson
> Just say the magic word Hanson
> ends up on top of the list.
> It's like magic or something.
>
>
------ hanson administers to disciple/patient Kuntz --------
>
Lion Kuntz,
I am flattered that "hanson" has become your holy Mantra.
>
But you repeating it is not going to get you off welfare, Loin,
nor will your post that is immaterial & of no consequence do
so, because, sadly, you continue to remain Lion Kuntz aka
"Awe Shit", being a "Stupid Shit" like you were in here:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.energy/msg/443387786282d902
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.energy/msg/0f8702632d6f962a
>
Leon, realize that you are product of the *Fear-industry-complex* as
shown in the 2 hr show "Scared Stiff" on 23-Feb-07 by John Stossel:
http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=2899268
http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=2893367
http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=2896180
http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=2890330
which ought to show you that you are a sorry, terrified victim of/by &
thru the cult of ** The green Bible & its enviro Theology ** that says:
= "It doesn't matter what is true ... it only matters what people
= believe is true. -- Paul Watson, Sea Shepard/ex-Greenpeace
... and more in:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.environment/msg/20543afd0304b3f3
>
Face that, acknowledge it, take heed & for the 1st time, Lion, you can
http://www.superlaugh.com/1/behappy.htm. ---* Do it! * ----
ahahaha... ahahahahanson
>
>
>
"raylopez99" <raylo...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1172311343....@m58g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
> On Feb 23, 8:17 pm, "hanson" <han...@quick.net> wrote to Kuntz:
>> Lion, as long as there are any references of/about "hanson" in
>> any of your posts you'll be digging your hole deeper and your
>> dreams of making the US into H2PV will move further and farther
>> more money and you will become a sicker and sicker fuck-up.
>> It's your call, your dance, Leon!.. ahaha... But thanks for the laughs.
>> ahahahaha... ahahahanson
>
> A thought just occurred to me ahahahanson: the reason the cybermonkey
> Leon is so defensive about posting is that perhaps he is on probation
> for something, and his parole officer told him to keep off the
> internet as a condition for his probation--yet he continues to post.
> If he's found out to be posting on the 'Net, it's back to jail--and an
> awaiting jail lover Tyrone--for him!?
> RL
>
[hanson]
No, no, no, Ray. Lion Kuntz aka "Awe Shit" is just a very lonely old
Cabron & Pendejo who suffers in his "secure basement" wankering
away and having nightmares of regret over how he has wasted his
life and his career away, which is why he projects his self-hatred
onto anybody... and his psychosis onto any*thing* that is a success.
I try to cheer, "Awe Shit", the poor Olde Kacker up with my posts,
hoping that he will get some of his destroyed, long gone self-esteem
back.
Unfortunately he, "Awe Shit", appears to be gone so far down the
drain that he does not catch on anymore in his convulsions, which
is why I asked him many times what meds his Dr. prescribed him.
... and so, as thing stand now "Awe Shit" has become an endless
source for chuckles and laughs for all our interns & recruits who
look upon Loin Cunts like the bumper sticker that says:
****** "Hire the handicapped --- they are fun to watch ********
Here is Lion Kuntz's picture:
http://www.magazine.utoronto.ca/05winter/images/kuntz.jpg
ahahahaha.... ahahahanson
>
-------- Latest Update about patient Lion Kuntz's -------
>
[hanson]
Post script... about mental patient Lion Kuntz' situation:
>
As can be seen patient Leon's condition worsened.
After he read the above he, Kuntz , had a very brief flash
of lucidity in his despicably sad and sorry existence, but
his long term ingrained habits & obsessions overwhelmed
and impaired Leon's road to recovery and he got checked
into our modern and 1st class mental health care facilities
at Ravencrag, where we were about to administer to him.
--- By/thru his uncanny lies and deceptions he evaded the
care and protection of our administering interns and he
escaped from the mental health ward at Raven crag.
Here is a picture of our security cameras on Lion Kuntz's
brief taste of freedom, shortly before he was rounded up
by Ravencrag security units:
http://www.terranova.net/content/images/mj-chase.jpg
http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/cobrajal.htm#Hanson
http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/cobrajal.htm#Ravencrag
Hanson Cyberstalker Shit Flinger
They were notified on multiple occasions to curb your violations of
specific California Laws (where they are headquartered). You may be
untouchable, but they are at a known location. You might not even show
up in court, but THEY HAVE TO or lose by default. At $400 an hour
lawyer costs, I think they can be motivated to find you.
http://groups.google.com/groups/search?q=Hanson+Green+Turds&start=0&scoring=d&
groups.google.com Results 1 - 100 of about 1,560 for Hanson Green
Turds
http://www.google.com/search?q=Hanson%20Green%20Turds&sa=N&tab=gw
google.com Results 1 - 100 of about 71,300 for Hanson Green Turds.
http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&safe=off&q=Exxon+Turds&btnG=Search
Results 1 - 100 of about 53,700 for Exxon Turds.
WELL LOOKY THAT! Look who has floated up to the top of the bowl...
it's Turds Hanson. Just say the magic words "Exxon Turds" and Hanson
ends up on top of the list. It's like magic or something.
Hey Hanson? Do you have top pay extra to google for that?
Anybody can do it: just give it a try. Type EXXON TURDS and see who
comes up in NUMERO UNO spot.
Try typing other Turds associations and see what comes up top.
Path: g2news2.google.com!news1.google.com!news4.google.com!
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nntp.giganews.com!cyclone1.gnilink.net!spamkiller.gnilink.net!
gnilink.net!trnddc02.POSTED!c101a669!not-for-mail
From: "hanson" <han...@quick.net>
Newsgroups: alt.energy,alt.global-
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Hanson Cyberstalker Shit Flinger
They were notified on multiple occasions to curb your violations of
specific California Laws (where they are headquartered). You may be
untouchable, but they are at a known location. You might not even show
up in court, but THEY HAVE TO or lose by default. At $400 an hour
lawyer costs, I think they can be motivated to find you.
http://groups.google.com/groups/search?q=Hanson+Green+Turds&start=0&scoring=d&
groups.google.com Results 1 - 100 of about 1,560 for Hanson Green
Turds
http://www.google.com/search?q=Hanson%20Green%20Turds&sa=N&tab=gw
google.com Results 1 - 100 of about 71,300 for Hanson Green Turds.
http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&safe=off&q=Exxon+Turds&btnG=Search
Results 1 - 100 of about 53,700 for Exxon Turds.
WELL LOOKY THAT! Look who has floated up to the top of the bowl...
it's Turds Hanson. Just say the magic words "Exxon Turds" and Hanson
ends up on top of the list. It's like magic or something.
Hey Hanson? Do you have top pay extra to google for that?
Anybody can do it: just give it a try. Type EXXON TURDS and see who
comes up in NUMERO UNO spot.
Try typing other Turds associations and see what comes up top.
Path: g2news2.google.com!news1.google.com!news4.google.com!
hanson
Lion Kuntz, the <Hanson.Cy...@Exxon-Turds.info>
wants to hear from his Guru hanson, badly, and so he chanted:
> Hanson
> Hanson
> Hanson+
> Hanson
> Hanson
> for Hanson
> the magic word Hanson
> Hanson … on top of the list.
> Hanson is like magic
> "hanson"
> "hanson is the Guru of/for disciple Lion Kuntz"
>
>
ahahaha... my, my "Awe Shit". Aren't you anxiously chanting
your mantra for your Guru hanson. Easy now, easy, "Awe Shit".
Here's an update for your precious soul.....
--------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------------------------
[hanson]
Update:
Patient Lion Kuntz was returned to his cell in ward #23,
the section for the mentally disturbed by senile aggression
who are obsessed by fixed ideas, and he was administered
to again. Pictures of his recapture at the bottom of this post.
Of course, Kuntz will be left free to post his sub-intellectual,
fanatically compulsive pinko-green tripe, by which Kuntz
demonstrates rather convincingly the 3 fundamental tenets
of Greenism, namely that
= Enviros use the same great lies of yore. Only the color changed.
= (A) Environmentalism is Communism in Green...
= (B) Environmentalism is Nazism in Green...
= (C) Environmentalism makes the Poor poorer and the Rich richer.
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.environment/msg/20543afd0304b3f3
So Kuntz shall continue to expose the true environmental goals.
>
But when Kuntz begins AGAIN to behave coprophilic, extrudes
and count his turds, projects his pedophilia on the sleigh, does
advocate criminal Spamming of the web, or calls for his Guru
hanson, then hanson will repost this message to remind Lion
Kuntz that he, mental patient Lion Kuntz, has a relapse.
>
>
------ prior recent history of mental patient Lion Kuntz ------
------ Kuntz's pedo searches, his spam advocacy etc... ------
>
Lion Kuntz here as <Hanson.Cy...@Exxon-Turds.info> wrote in
news:1172293988.9...@t69g2000cwt.googlegroups.com...
> On Feb 23, 8:43 pm, "hanson" <han...@quick.net> wrote:
>> Dave, watch "Awe Shit"-Lion dance now... ahahaha.... ahahanson
>
[hanson]
& predictably disciple Lion Kuntz aka "Awe Shit" obediently danced
and then he chanted for his Guru hanson with these words of prayer:
>
[Lion Kuntz]
> q=Hanson
> search?q=Hanson
> Hanson
> Results Hanson
> the top Hanson.
> Just say the magic word Hanson
> hanson on top of the list.
> It's like magic or something.
>
>> Lion, ... your dreams of making the US into H2PV will move
>> further and farther away from you... and Exxon and OPEC will
>> make more and more money and you will become a sicker and
>> poorer fuck-up... So, choose the right side, Leon... Join'em!
>> It's your call, your choice, your dance, Leon!... ahaha... AHAHA...
>
[Ray to hanson]
> A thought just occurred to me ahahahanson: the reason the
> cybermonkey Leon is so defensive about posting is that perhaps
> he is on probation for something, and his parole officer told him
> to keep off the internet as a condition for his probation--yet he
> continues to post. If he's found out to be posting on the 'Net, it's
> back to jail -- and an awaiting jail lover Tyrone--for him!?
> RL
>
[hanson to Ray]
No, no, no, Ray. Lion Kuntz aka "Awe Shit" is just a very lonely old
Cabron & Pendejo who suffers in his "secure basement" wankering
away and having nightmares of regret over how he has wasted his
life and his career away, which is why he projects his self-hatred
onto anybody... & in his psychosis onto any*thing* that is a success.
Kuntz's loud barking into cyberspace is the only human interaction
which that pathetic lonely and forlorn old bastard Leon still has left.
Hence he welcomes and deeply appreciates any response he can
get as can be seen in all of Kuntz' never ever ending begging retorts.
So, I try to cheer "Awe Shit", the poor Olde Kacker, up with my posts,
hoping that he will get some of his destroyed, long gone self-esteem
back.
Unfortunately he, "Awe Shit", appears to be gone so far down the
drain that he does not catch on anymore in his convulsions, which
is why I asked him many times what meds his Dr. prescribed him.
... and so, as things stand now "Awe Shit" has become an endless
source for chuckles and laughs for all our interns & recruits who
look upon Loin Cunts like the bumper sticker that says:
****** "Hire the handicapped --- they are fun to watch ********
Here is Lion Kuntz's picture:
http://www.magazine.utoronto.ca/05winter/images/kuntz.jpg
ahahahaha.... ahahahanson
>
>
--- Latest Update on mental patient Lion Kuntz' situation: ---
>
As can be seen patient Leon's condition has worsened.
After he read the above he, Kuntz , had a very brief flash
of lucidity in his despicably sad and sorry existence, but
his long term ingrained habits & obsessions overwhelmed
and impaired Leon's road to recovery and he got checked
back into our modern and 1st class mental health care
facilities at Ravencrag, where we were about to administer
to him. - By/thru his habitual lies and deceptions he evaded
the care and protection of our administering interns and he
escaped from the mental health ward at Raven crag.
Here is a picture of our security cameras on Lion Kuntz's
brief taste of freedom, shortly before he was rounded up
by Ravencrag security units and returned:
http://www.terranova.net/content/images/mj-chase.jpg
http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/cobrajal.htm#Hanson
http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/cobrajal.htm#Ravencrag
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------------------- Epilog ----------------
Lion Kuntz is/has been undoubtedly the most hilarious poster
in these *enviro groups. He, Lion Kuntz, aka "Awe Shit" like all
his few other lesser pinko-green minions, has a common delusion:
These fanatical turds do obsessively believe that their posting
will produce or influence inter/-national politics and policy...
That *** Money talks -but- Green Bullshit walks *** is foreign to
them. So:*** "Let'em sing!... All of'em!... It's a beautiful choir! ***
ahahahaha...
So, lets not beat on Le Cuntsie too hard otherwise he'll really begin
to cry and go away... and with him all the fun that he so unwillingly
but fanatically provided... ahahahaha... AHAHAHAHAHAHA...
***Thanks for the laughs, Leon, Le Cuntsie! ***
PS: Le Cuntsie est argot français pour le lion Kuntz
H2-PV Fast Track to Energy Security
hanson
Lion Kuntz, the <Hanson.Cy...@Exxon-Turds.info>
> Hanson
> Hanson
> Hanson+
> Hanson
> Hanson
> for Hanson
> the magic word Hanson
> Hanson … on top of the list.
> Hanson is like magic
> "hanson"
>
>
Lion Kuntz here as <Hanson.Cy...@Exxon-Turds.info> wrote in
news:1172293988.9...@t69g2000cwt.googlegroups.com...
> On Feb 23, 8:43 pm, "hanson" <han...@quick.net> wrote:
>> Dave, watch "Awe Shit"-Lion dance now... ahahaha.... ahahanson
>
[hanson]
& predictably disciple Lion Kuntz aka "Awe Shit" obediently danced
and then he chanted for his Guru hanson with these words of prayer:
>
[Lion Kuntz]
> q=Hanson
> search?q=Hanson
> Hanson
> Results Hanson
> the top Hanson.
> Just say the magic word Hanson
> hanson on top of the list.
> It's like magic or something.
>
>> Lion, ... your dreams of making the US into H2PV will move
>> further and farther away from you... and Exxon and OPEC will
>> make more and more money and you will become a sicker and
>> poorer fuck-up... So, choose the right side, Leon... Join'em!
>> It's your call, your choice, your dance, Leon!... ahaha... AHAHA...
>
[Ray to hanson]
> A thought just occurred to me ahahahanson: the reason the
> cybermonkey Leon is so defensive about posting is that perhaps
> he is on probation for something, and his parole officer told him
> to keep off the internet as a condition for his probation--yet he
> continues to post. If he's found out to be posting on the 'Net, it's
> back to jail -- and an awaiting jail lover Tyrone--for him!?
> RL
>
[hanson to Ray]
No, no, no, Ray. Lion Kuntz aka "Awe Shit" is just a very lonely old
Cabron & Pendejo who suffers in his "secure basement" wankering
away and having nightmares of regret over how he has wasted his
life and his career away, which is why he projects his self-hatred
onto anybody... & in his psychosis onto any*thing* that is a success.
Kuntz's loud barking into cyberspace is the only human interaction
which that pathetic lonely and forlorn old bastard Leon still has left.
So, I try to cheer, "Awe Shit", the poor Olde Kacker up with my posts,
hoping that he will get some of his destroyed, long gone self-esteem
back.
Unfortunately he, "Awe Shit", appears to be gone so far down the
drain that he does not catch on anymore in his convulsions, which
is why I asked him many times what meds his Dr. prescribed him.
... and so, as things stand now "Awe Shit" has become an endless
source for chuckles and laughs for all our interns & recruits who
look upon Loin Cunts like the bumper sticker that says:
****** "Hire the handicapped --- they are fun to watch ********
Here is Lion Kuntz's picture:
http://www.magazine.utoronto.ca/05winter/images/kuntz.jpg
ahahahaha.... ahahahanson
>
>
--- Latest Update on mental patient Lion Kuntz' situation: ---
>
As can be seen patient Leon's condition has worsened.
After he read the above he, Kuntz , had a very brief flash
of lucidity in his despicably sad and sorry existence, but
his long term ingrained habits & obsessions overwhelmed
and impaired Leon's road to recovery and he got checked
back into our modern and 1st class mental health care
facilities at Ravencrag, where we were about to administer
to him. - By/thru his habitual lies and deceptions he evaded
the care and protection of our administering interns and he
escaped from the mental health ward at Raven crag.
Here is a picture of our security cameras on Lion Kuntz's
brief taste of freedom, shortly before he was rounded up
by Ravencrag security units and returned:
http://www.terranova.net/content/images/mj-chase.jpg
http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/cobrajal.htm#Hanson
http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/cobrajal.htm#Ravencrag
>
>
>
------------------- Epilog ----------------
Lion Kuntz is/has been undoubtedly the most hilarious poster
in these *enviro groups. He, Lion Kuntz, aka "Awe Shit" like all
his few other lesser pinko-green minions, has a common delusion:
These fanatical turds do obsessively believe that their posting
will produce or influence inter/-national politics and policy...
That *** Money talks -but- Green Bullshit walks *** is foreign to
them. So:*** "Let'em sing!... All of'em!... It's a beautiful choir! ***
ahahahaha...
So, lets not beat on Cuntzie too hard otherwise he'll really begin
to cry and go away... and with him all the fun that he so unwillingly
but fanatically provided... ahahahaha... AHAHAHAHAHAHA...
***Thanks for the laughs, Leon!***
Lion, Sonoma Co., Cal., USA
hanson
***** "Lion, Sonoma Co., Cal., USA" <Lion...@email.com> *****
mental patient Kuntz has shown that the treatment he has received
at our Ravencrag mental health facilities was very beneficial for the
healing of his aberrant state of mind.
>
[hanson]
Congratulations, Lion!
This is wonderful news; your behavioral improvement here.
Keep it going in that direction.
The rest of your tripe still needs improvement since it was, as
usual, still sour, immaterial & of no consequence, as always.
Remember now, Leon, whenever you get lonely again, &/or
you begin to feel that inner upwelling of hatred and fanaticism
all you have to do is to go for help to your resource kit here:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.energy/msg/37801f2d9f88cf8c
http://www.superlaugh.com/1/behappy.htm.
ahahaha... ahahahanson