CAN YOU SPOT THE HOLE IN THE ELBOW OF THE RIGHT SHIRT SLEEVE ?
Gil Jesus
David Von Pein
>>> "CAN YOU SPOT THE HOLE IN THE ELBOW OF THE RIGHT SHIRT SLEEVE [in the picture below]?" <<<
http://i44.tinypic.com/t646fs.jpg
Well, Gil, here's a stumper for you.....
Can you see the light spots (or "defect", as I referred to it earlier)
on the right sleeve of Oswald's shirt in your picture above?
Let's compare:
http://i44.tinypic.com/t646fs.jpg
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/img/11-07/1122oswald2.jpg
So, where do we go from here, Gilbert?
Would you like to now pretend that Oswald is wearing a different shirt
in each of the above two photos (based on the fact that something can
be seen in one of the pictures that cannot be seen in the other)?
Where can you "Two Different Shirts" kooks possibly go with this?
And how on Earth can you possibly (and reasonably) answer that last
question I asked regarding two pictures of Oswald that were obviously
taken on the very same day of 11/22/63 at the Dallas City Jail?
YoHarvey
> >>> "CAN YOU SPOT THE HOLE IN THE ELBOW OF THE RIGHT SHIRT SLEEVE [in the picture below]?" <<<
>
> http://i44.tinypic.com/t646fs.jpg
>
> Well, Gil, here's a stumper for you.....
>
> Can you see the light spots (or "defect", as I referred to it earlier)
> on the right sleeve of Oswald's shirt in your picture above?
>
> Let's compare:
>
> http://i44.tinypic.com/t646fs.jpg
>
> http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/img/11-07/1122oswald2.jpg
>
> So, where do we go from here, Gilbert?
>
> Would you like to now pretend that Oswald is wearing a different shirt
> can be seen in one of the pictures that cannot be seen in the other)?
>
> Where can you "Two Different Shirts" kooks possibly go with this?
>
> And how on Earth can you possibly (and reasonably) answer that last
> question I asked regarding two pictures of Oswald that were obviously
> taken on the very same day of 11/22/63 at the Dallas City Jail?
You'll never get a response DVP. Once again, he'll run and hide in
shame. It's his MO. With each continual posting, he shows even the
CT's out there his ignorance. Perhaps we should check LHO's socks as
well. I mean, ya never know :-)
David Von Pein
Sorry for the out-of-order chronology of these posts, YoHarvey. My
fault. And that's because (as always) I found the proverbial one typo
in my initial post after posting it. Therefore, since I despise
errors, I had to do it over and delete the original. ~deep sigh~
YoHarvey
Typos happen DVP.
Walt
> >>> "CAN YOU SPOT THE HOLE IN THE ELBOW OF THE RIGHT SHIRT SLEEVE [in the picture below]?" <<<
>
> http://i44.tinypic.com/t646fs.jpg
>
> Well, Gil, here's a stumper for you.....
>
> Can you see the light spots (or "defect", as I referred to it earlier)
> on the right sleeve of Oswald's shirt in your picture above?
>
> Let's compare:
>
> http://i44.tinypic.com/t646fs.jpg
>
> http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/img/11-07/1122oswald2.jpg
>
> So, where do we go from here, Gilbert?
Gil....Tell the dumb bastard to go to page 154 of "The Search For LHO"
and actually see the color of the shirt that LHO was wearing when he
was arrested. I'll bet he doesn't have the guts to post a link to
that photo which shows that Oswald's arrest shirt was GRAY. GRAY
GRAY as in "the tuft of fibers fibers on the butt of the rifle
consisted of gray/ black, dark blue, and yellow /orange fibers" as the
FBI lab man, Stombaugh? testified.
David Von Pein
>>> "Typos happen DVP." <<<
<chuckle>
Well, Goddammit! Now it looks like I didn't even have to make my last
"typo" speech after all, because the posts ARE now in the right
chronology (even after my edit/deletion). My post showed up late, but
above YoHarvey's.
Maybe it's a Google Groups conspiracy.
El-Oh-El.
David Von Pein
LOL.
Walt thinks the WC was stupid enough to try and pass off CE150 (a
brown shirt) as LHO's arrest shirt...even though (per a retarded ABOer
named Cakebread) Oswald was arrested in a gray shirt.
I love it!
muc...@gmail.com
> On 24 Jan, 10:03, David Von Pein <davevonp...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > >>> "CAN YOU SPOT THE HOLE IN THE ELBOW OF THE RIGHT SHIRT SLEEVE [in the picture below]?" <<<
>
> >http://i44.tinypic.com/t646fs.jpg
>
> > Well, Gil, here's a stumper for you.....
>
> > Can you see the light spots (or "defect", as I referred to it earlier)
> > on the right sleeve of Oswald's shirt in your picture above?
>
> > Let's compare:
>
> >http://i44.tinypic.com/t646fs.jpg
>
> >http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/img/11-07/1122oswald2.jpg
>
> > So, where do we go from here, Gilbert?
>
> Gil....Tell the dumb bastard to go to page 154 of "The Search For LHO"
> and actually see the color of the shirt that LHO was wearing when he
> was arrested. I'll bet he doesn't have the guts to post a link to
> that photo which shows that Oswald's arrest shirt was GRAY. GRAY
> GRAY as in "the tuft of fibers fibers on the butt of the rifle
> consisted of gray/ black, dark blue, and yellow /orange fibers" as the
> FBI lab man, Stombaugh? testified.
http://graphics.boston.com/resize/bonzai-fba/Globe_Photo/2008/07/24/1216956596_6137/539w.jpg
This photo?
Walt
>
> - Show quoted text -
Hey Yo yo... Do you know what color the fibers were that the FBI found
clinging to the butt of the rifle?? I believe you'll find that
Stombaugh said the tuft consisted of : "gray/black, dark blue. and
yellow/ orange fibers." See page 154 of The Search For LHO for the
color photo of Oswald being shoved into a polce car outside the Texas
theater. You'll notice that the shirt he is wearing is composed
primarily of gray /black fibers..... because it is a predominently
GRAY shirt.
If the FBI found fibers from that shirt on the but of the rifle those
fibers had to have got on that rifle after both the rifle and the
shirt were in the hands of the police.
Terry
TerryQ
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YoHarvey
>
> - Show quoted text -
Dark blue, gray-black and orange-yellow cotton fibers were found in a
crevice between the butt plate of the Carcano and wooden stock. The
fibers perfectly matched those on the shirt Oswald was wearing at the
time of his arrest. The FBI laboratory found that the colors , and
even the twist of the fibers were identical. Though such fibers could
have come from another idetical shirt, the prohibitive probability is
in the billions.
David Von Pein
>>> "Oswald's arrest shirt was GRAY." <<<
I guess Walt The Kook must also think that the shirt Oswald is wearing
in this picture is "gray" (and not brown):
www.jfkfiles.com/jfk/images/news/lho-winfrey_012209.jpg
Or did Oswald supposedly change from a gray shirt to a brown one in
the police car on the ride down to police headquarters?
I guess Walt can be thankful that no photographer at the DPD (that I'm
aware of) took a COLOR picture of LHO wearing his brown arrest shirt
(CE150). So, Walt can always pretend that all of the B&W pictures of
Oswald's brown shirt are really depicting a "gray" shirt.
And Walt can also always pretend that the sunlight is skewing the
actual color of LHO's shirt in this color picture taken at the Texas
Theater, with Walt pretending that the shirt is gray, when it's really
brown (of course):
http://graphics.boston.com/resize/bonzai-fba/Globe_Photo/2008/07/24/1216956596_6137/539w.jpg
BTW, "much", that version of that color photo of Oswald's arrest at
the theater is the best version I've ever seen of that picture. On
most circulated copies of that photo that I have seen, the picture is
either severely cropped or Gerald Hill of the DPD (on the right) is in
deep shadows. But in the above copy provided by "much" in this thread,
Gerry Hill's face is easily seen and discernible. I'll be sure to save
that high-quality version on my computer. Thanks.
Walt
> On 24 Jan., 17:12, Walt <papakochenb...@evertek.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 24 Jan, 10:03, David Von Pein <davevonp...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > > >>> "CAN YOU SPOT THE HOLE IN THE ELBOW OF THE RIGHT SHIRT SLEEVE [in the picture below]?" <<<
>
> > >http://i44.tinypic.com/t646fs.jpg
>
> > > Well, Gil, here's a stumper for you.....
>
> > > Can you see the light spots (or "defect", as I referred to it earlier)
> > > on the right sleeve of Oswald's shirt in your picture above?
>
> > > Let's compare:
>
> > >http://i44.tinypic.com/t646fs.jpg
>
> > >http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/img/11-07/1122oswald2.jpg
>
> > > So, where do we go from here, Gilbert?
>
> > Gil....Tell the dumb bastard to go to page 154 of "The Search For LHO"
> > and actually see the color of the shirt that LHO was wearing when he
> > was arrested. I'll bet he doesn't have the guts to post a link to
> > that photo which shows that Oswald's arrest shirt was GRAY. GRAY
> > GRAY as in "the tuft of fibers fibers on the butt of the rifle
> > consisted of gray/ black, dark blue, and yellow /orange fibers" as the
> > FBI lab man, Stombaugh? testified.
>
>
> This photo?
NO! NO! NO!.... That is NOT the photo that appears on page 154 of The
Search For LHO.... Why do you attempt is crap?? The photo that you
linked to is very similar, and most people wouln't spot the
differences but the dead give away that you're attempting to distort
the information can be seen by looking at the size of the swatch of
materail of Oswalds shirt is visible ( which is the reason that you
attempted this crap) Anybody who thinks I'm not telling the truth
merely can look at the man who is seen just over the cigar chompin
dectective's sholder. Notice the position of the man's left hand in
the photo on page 154 and compare it with the photo that Mark linked
to. Does anybody believe that mark wasn't trying to be deceptive??
And WHY would he attempt to deceive unless he knows the truth and
wants to cover up the fact that Oswald's shirt was GRAY.
>
>
>
> > > Would you like to now pretend that Oswald is wearing a different shirt
> > > in each of the above two photos (based on the fact that something can
> > > be seen in one of the pictures that cannot be seen in the other)?
>
> > > Where can you "Two Different Shirts" kooks possibly go with this?
>
> > > And how on Earth can you possibly (and reasonably) answer that last
> > > question I asked regarding two pictures of Oswald that were obviously
> > > taken on the very same day of 11/22/63 at the Dallas City Jail?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
YoHarvey
If the FBI found fibers from that shirt on the but of the rifle those
fibers had to have got on that rifle after both the rifle and the
shirt were in the hands of the police.
What?
David Von Pein
WTF??? What does Gerry Hill's left hand have to do with anything, for
Pete sake?
Are you talking about a cropped version of the picture vs. an
uncropped version, Walt?:
Walt
> WTF??? What does Gerry Hill's left hand have to do with anything, for
> Pete sake?
You conniving bastard..... LOOK at the photo on page 154 anf compare
it to the onr that Mark linked to ( you'll have to pull your head out
of your ass to see the difference but it's very obvious to anybody
with at least one good eye.
>
> Are you talking about a cropped version of the picture vs. an
> uncropped version, Walt?:
>
> http://reclaiming-history.googlegroups.com/web/046.+LEE+HARVEY+OSWALD...
>
> http://reclaiming-history.googlegroups.com/web/046a.+LEE+HARVEY+OSWAL...
Walt
Sorry Rob...I'm not going to repeat myself......
Walt
> It looks like a thumb to me!
There's nothing wrong with your eyes.... That Is the thumb of the cop
who has a hold on oswald's arm.
>
> TerryQ"Gil Jesus" <gjjm...@aol.com> wrote in message
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David Von Pein
Walt, I don't have that retarded conspiracy book by Groden.
Find the picture online someplace and link to it.
Is it merely a cropped version of the previously-posted picture? Why
can't you answer that simple question?
Walt
No it is NOT merely a cropped version ...you conniving asshole. Why do
you LNer's have to lie and attempt to deceive? Is it because in your
haughty arrogance you think nobody will notice?
David Von Pein
>>> "There's nothing wrong with your eyes. That is the thumb of the cop who has a hold on Oswald's arm." <<<
For Pete sake, even Gil knows that the white thing on Oswald's right
arm is the policeman's thumb in that photo. Gil posted the picture
because the pic does not show a hole in the shirt sleeve.
Gil can never logically answer my previous question though....i.e.,
why don't we see the light spots/defect on the right sleeve in Gil's
picture...but we can see them in another picture?
IOW -- The whole question asked by Gilbert The Retard is a moot and
meaningless inquiry entirely. One picture shows something, while
another (taken from a different angle) does not show it -- but we KNOW
it's there nonetheless.
So, big deal.
But, as always, you conspiracy kooks make a living out of propping up
moot and meaningless points, don't you?
Walt
RIGHT!!.... Does this sound like the color of fibers that you'd expect
to come from a REDDISH BROWN shirt???
The FBI laboratory found that the colors , and
> even the twist of the fibers were identical. Though such fibers could
> have come from another idetical shirt, the prohibitive probability is
> in the billions.- Hide quoted text -
David Von Pein
>>> "No it is NOT merely a cropped version ...you conniving asshole. Why do you LNer's have to lie and attempt to deceive?" <snipping a kook> <<<
I don't have the Goddamn book you're referring to, you retarded SOB!
Should I say that a third time in my next post?
Therefore, I have no f-ing idea what picture you're talking about. But
it sure sounds like you're talking about a VERSION of the same picture
that's already been posted in this thread.
Is it a version of that very same picture, Mr. Kook?
Bud
Does anyone think you aren`t retarded? You have one photo you`ve
never produced here, and you claim it trumps everything else. How have
you established that the color of Oswald`s shirt in that book is
correct?
Bud
> On 24 Jan, 11:20, David Von Pein <davevonp...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > WTF??? What does Gerry Hill's left hand have to do with anything, for
> > Pete sake?
>
> You conniving bastard..... LOOK at the photo on page 154 anf compare
> it to the onr that Mark linked to ( you'll have to pull your head out
> of your ass to see the difference but it's very obvious to anybody
> with at least one good eye.
Why doesn`t that make the picture in your book suspect?
Bud
> http://tinypic.com/usermedia.php?uo=C8iP4kggG5%2BEVzLgvw%2FI1w%3D%3D
Maybe Walt can explain why the square void in Oswald`s shirt shown
in this photo isn`t at Oswald`s elbow. Walt has claimed forever that
the defect should be seen in the clenched fist photo because it`s
location was on the elbow.
justm...@gmail.com
Why the hell doesn't he shut up and find the picture on the net before
he makes a bigger ass of himself arguing over something no one can
see? lol
Walt, old man....you've lost it bigtime. Maybe a nap would help.
Walt
I've already told you a couple of times,but I'll type this real slow
so that you can understand.... NO! IT IS NOT THE SAME PHOTO.
muc...@gmail.com
This would be a good opportunity for Walt's CT amigos to back him up.
Walt
When was the last time you visited your optometist?? Or perhaps your
shrink could tell you that the "square" that you think is a hole in
Oswald's shirt is in reality the detectives thumb on Oswald's arm..
Walt
Why couldn't any HONEST reader post a link to the photo on page
154....As far as I know I have no "amigos" in this NG.
I have no amigos, because I don't endorse somebody simply because they
claim to be a CT or an LNer. If someone presents FACTUAL data I'll
applaud it and I don't give a damn whether their Jersey has a LN or a
CT on it.
Walt
Is that an invitation??... Do you have a bag to put over yor head?
justm...@gmail.com
You even interpret being humiliated wrong LOL Why don't you post the
goddamn photo from page 154? Why do we have to go searching the net
for it? You're using it as your evidence, you post the damn photo. I'm
sure someone who can build cardboard replicas of Dealy Plaza has a
scanner they can use to scan this so called picture that is going to
prove the world wrong ROFLMAO
You're nuts Walt, no 2 ways about it!
tomnln
What would you do without me Wally???
"Walt" <papakoc...@evertek.net> wrote in message
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Walt
> http://whokilledjfk.net/you_asked_for_it.htm
>
> What would you do without me Wally???
THANK YOU...... Now lets see the maggots deny that Oswald's arrest
shirt was the REDDISH BROWN
shirt with the hole in the right elbow that Mary Bledsoe testified
that Oswald was wearing as he was on his way to the roominghouse to
change his clothes.
>
> "Walt" <papakochenb...@evertek.net> wrote in message
> CT on it.- Hide quoted text -
Bud
> On 24 Jan, 15:11, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> >http://whokilledjfk.net/you_asked_for_it.htm
>
> > What would you do without me Wally???
>
> THANK YOU...... Now lets see the maggots deny that Oswald's arrest
> shirt was the REDDISH BROWN
> shirt with the hole in the right elbow that Mary Bledsoe testified
> that Oswald was wearing as he was on his way to the roominghouse to
> change his clothes.
Oswald`s arrest shirt is CE150, a reddish brown shirt with a hole in
the sleeve, you retard. Here is a link to the photo Tom has on his
website, I linked to the photo taken after this one (Reed4, where
Oswald is being placed in the police car) a few days ago, because it
was a better view.
http://jfkmurderphotos.bravehost.com/reed3.jpg
justm...@gmail.com
ROFLMAO thats the exact same picture that Mark and DVP already posted
the link for only theirs is a closer zoomed in shot and 100% clearer
then the one Rossley just gave the link for.
The shirt is REDDISH BROWN and the link of Rossleys is so crappy and
grainy you wouldn't be able to make out much of any color correctly.
You must be color blind Walt, because even in the shitty picture you
raving about the shirt still has a brownish tint to it.
Give up Walt this is just another one of your fairy tales thats gone
sour. Bud's correct, you are retarded.
Walt
Perhaps you should look again .....only this time put on your glasses
Look at the left hand of the man who can be seen over the cigar
chompin cop's shoulder. And then you might also notice that a bigger
swatch of Oswald's GRAY shirt is seen in the photo from page 154.
> The shirt is REDDISH BROWN and the link of Rossleys is so crappy and
> grainy you wouldn't be able to make out much of any color correctly.
> You must be color blind Walt, because even in the shitty picture you
> raving about the shirt still has a brownish tint to it.
I agree.... there is a slight tint of brown in the photo, but that
shirt is definitely NOT dark REDDISH BROWN!!.
> Give up Walt this is just another one of your fairy tales thats gone
> sour. Bud's correct, you are retarded.
You're just mad because I didn't take you up on your offer.....
Walt
> On Jan 24, 4:42 pm, Walt <papakochenb...@evertek.net> wrote:
>
> > On 24 Jan, 15:11, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> > >http://whokilledjfk.net/you_asked_for_it.htm
>
> > > What would you do without me Wally???
>
> > THANK YOU...... Now lets see the maggots deny that Oswald's arrest
> > shirt was the REDDISH BROWN
> > shirt with the hole in the right elbow that Mary Bledsoe testified
> > that Oswald was wearing as he was on his way to the roominghouse to
> > change his clothes.
>
> Oswald`s arrest shirt is CE150, a reddish brown shirt with a hole in
> the sleeve, you retard.
You'll have to pull your head outta your ass to see the photo in the
link that Tom provided.
http://whokilledjfk.net/you_asked_for_it.htm
Psssst Dud.....Do you know whats happening in that photo?? Oswald has
been taken into custody at the Texas theater, and is being put into a
police car. (psst...... that means he's being arrested and the GRAY
shirt he is wearing in that picture is his ARREST shirt.)
> > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
Bud
> On 24 Jan, 16:37, Bud <sirsl...@fast.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jan 24, 4:42 pm, Walt <papakochenb...@evertek.net> wrote:
>
> > > On 24 Jan, 15:11, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> > > >http://whokilledjfk.net/you_asked_for_it.htm
>
> > > > What would you do without me Wally???
>
> > > THANK YOU...... Now lets see the maggots deny that Oswald's arrest
> > > shirt was the REDDISH BROWN
> > > shirt with the hole in the right elbow that Mary Bledsoe testified
> > > that Oswald was wearing as he was on his way to the roominghouse to
> > > change his clothes.
>
> > Oswald`s arrest shirt is CE150, a reddish brown shirt with a hole in
> > the sleeve, you retard.
>
> You'll have to pull your head outta your ass to see the photo in the
> link that Tom provided.
>
> http://whokilledjfk.net/you_asked_for_it.htm
>
> Psssst Dud.....Do you know whats happening in that photo?? Oswald has
> been taken into custody at the Texas theater, and is being put into a
> police car. (psst...... that means he's being arrested and the GRAY
> shirt he is wearing in that picture is his ARREST shirt.)
And this photo of Oswald`s arrest shows he was arrested in a brown
shirt (look under the cop in the white cap`s chin).
http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/LHO30.jpg
The proposition that Oswald was wearing the brown shirt (CE150) has
much more going for it than a single photo.
David Von Pein
"JUST ME" SAID:
>>> "That [picture linked below] is the exact same picture that Mark and DVP already posted." <<<
http://whokilledjfk.net/you_as56.jpg
No, it isn't the same picture at all. Walt is certainly correct about
that. We can easily determine if it's a non-zoomed version of the
picture that was posted previously (the one linked below) by looking
at the policeman on Oswald's right (our left) in the photo.
The police officer has taken off his white cap in the photo linked
above and is holding it over Oswald's face, to try and hide his face
from the cameras and the spectators. But the policeman still has his
cap on his head in this picture below:
WALT SAID:
>>> "Oswald's arrest shirt was GRAY." <<<
I wonder what Walt The Super Detective plans to do with these various
witnesses, all of whom testified they saw Lee Harvey Oswald wearing a
BROWN shirt on 11/22/63, not a GRAY shirt?
Let's have a look at some of the witness testimony in this regard
(and, btw, this only took me about 3 or 4 minutes to gather this
witness information about Oswald's shirt color; there are probably
even more witnesses that can verify that LHO was wearing a brown shirt
at the time of his arrest; but I stopped looking after finding these
five):
JOHNNY BREWER -- "He had a brown sports shirt on."
JULIA POSTAL -- "It was something like this shirt [seen in CE150]. I
couldn't say it is the same, except it was brown and it was hanging
out."
NICK McDONALD -- "He was wearing a dark brown shirt."
C.T. WALKER -- "He had on a white T-shirt under a brown shirt."
GERALD HILL -- "He had on a dark--I don't recall it being a solid
brown--shirt, but it was a dark-brownish-looking sports shirt."
============
Were all of the above witnesses color-blind, Walt?
This type of argument brought up by Walt only further emphasizes and
vividly illustrates the lengths to which a conspiracy nut will go in
order to satisfy his desire for some kind of "plot" or "cover up" in
the JFK murder case.
Walt has loads of information in front of him regarding the color of
Oswald's arrest shirt. He's got all of the witness statements that I
just shared above (and probably more "brown" witnesses too). And he's
got CE150, which is definitely a brown shirt. And he's got a picture
(in color) that shows Oswald's arrest shirt to be brown in color.
So, what does Walt do? He ignores the large amount of evidence that
tells a reasonable person that the shirt was brown....and he decides
to prop up an obviously-non-color-corrected photo supplied in one of
Robert Groden's books.
As usual, a kook has latched onto one piece of chaff, while tossing
aside a dozen hunks of wheat.
Let me add this note --- If Walt had wanted to, I'm pretty certain he
could have dug up a link to the photo that he was talking about.
Because this exact subject about LHO's shirt has surfaced at these
forums more than once in the past. Here's just one example, from two
years ago (and the photo that Walt wanted could possibly be somewhere
in this thread, although I haven't verified that):
www.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/browse_thread/thread/849dad6a88f14b6f
In fact, I could have saved a little bit of typing by merely re-
posting in this thread the following words that I wrote in that 2007
thread. They are certainly just as appropriate now as they were then:
"Walt The Super-Kook has struck again.....he's turned the
evidence on its head to satisfy his endless thirst for "conspiracy" --
ANY conspiracy. Even a "shirt" plot of some kind, where all the cops
and regular citizens like Julia Postal and Johnny Brewer (for some
reason) said "brown", but the shirt (per Walt-Kook) was really "gray".
Go figure kooks." -- DVP; March 10, 2007
www.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/6e1944297ac1c247
Gil Jesus
> http://tinypic.com/usermedia.php?uo=C8iP4kggG5%2BEVzLgvw%2FI1w%3D%3D
Mr. EISENBERG. When did you receive this shirt that is pictured in
Exhibit 673, said shirt being Commission Exhibit 150?
Mr. STOMBAUGH. I received this shirt the same day I received the
blanket, which was November 23, 1963, approximately 7:30 a.m.
Mr. EISENBERG. Now, did you conduct an examination to determine the
composition of this shirt?
Mr. STOMBAUGH. Yes, I did.
Mr. EISENBERG. When did you do that?
Mr. STOMBAUGH. I did this later on that morning.
Mr. EISENBERG. What were your conclusions as to the composition, Mr.
Stombaugh?
Mr. STOMBAUGH. The shirt is composed of gray-black cotton, dark blue
cotton, and orange-yellow cotton fibers. The dark yarn in the shirt
is composed of a mixture of dark blue and gray-black cotton fibers
twisted together, and the light yellowish orange looking colors here,
the yarns in this part of the shirt were composed of orange-yellow
cotton fibers.
( 4 H 74 )
I don't see any brown fibers, green fibers or red fibers mentioned in
the testimony.
But to get back to my original question,
CAN YOU SPOT THE HOLE IN THE ELBOW OF THE RIGHT SHIRT SLEEVE ?
Gil Jesus
> http://whokilledjfk.net/you_asked_for_it.htm
>
> What would you do without me Wally???
Rossley backing up Walt ?
HELL HAS FROZEN OVER..............J/K......ROFLMAO.
Gil Jesus
>
> � Does anyone think you aren`t retarded?
BUD MUST LIVE IN A GLASS HOUSE.......
Atheist Anti-Semite Bud makes fun of the Jewish people. Bud writes:
And, for Tom Lowry, a jewish joke....
A jew was walking down the road when he was set upon by two
highwaymen. After a furious struggle of more than an hour, they were
able to wrest the money the jew had away from him. "Do you believe he
put up such a terrific fight for only a nickle" asked the first thug.
"Thank God he didn`t have a dime, or he`d have killed us" replied the
second.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/1082daf25ad71d92
------------------------
BUD ON JFK
"Perhaps had Kennedy lived, we would have all dies (sic) in a nuclear
holocaust".
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/10623658e759a0e8
---------------------
BUD ON GEOGRAPHY
Bud also thinks New Zealand is part of Australia. On the subject of
the Christchurch (New Zealand) newspaper's printing of Oswald's bio
too early,
Bud writes:
"The kooks seem to think that the Conspiracy alerted the Australian
media ...of things before they unfolded."
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/875dada84dad54b7
At least the "kooks" know that New Zealand is its own country, Bud.
----------------------
BUD'S RETARDED ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS
The bullet fragments allegedly found in the limousine were never
photographed in their places as discovered.
BUD: So?
CE 399 had no bone particles, NO CLOTHING FIBERS and no blood on it
from either victim.
BUD: It was carried in the pockets of a few people.
A bullet that contained no proof that it passed through any human
bodies
BUD: Is such proof necessary?
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/211b857f0638c734
Walt
> "JUST ME" SAID:
>
> >>> "That [picture linked below] is the exact same picture that Mark and DVP already posted." <<<
>
> http://whokilledjfk.net/you_as56.jpg
>
> No, it isn't the same picture at all. Walt is certainly correct about
> that. We can easily determine if it's a non-zoomed version of the
> picture that was posted previously (the one linked below) by looking
> at the policeman on Oswald's right (our left) in the photo.
>
> The police officer has taken off his white cap in the photo linked
> above and is holding it over Oswald's face, to try and hide his face
> from the cameras and the spectators. But the policeman still has his
> cap on his head in this picture below:
>
>
> WALT SAID:
>
> >>> "Oswald's arrest shirt was GRAY." <<<
>
> I wonder what Walt The Super Detective plans to do with these various
> witnesses, all of whom testified they saw Lee Harvey Oswald wearing a
> BROWN shirt on 11/22/63, not a GRAY shirt?
Wow!!!..... I'm amazed that you would display you naivete so
openly..... You're even dumber than I'd imagined.
I'm sure you've heard the old joke about the husband who comes home
and finds his wife in bed with the another man...She tells
him...."This isn't what you think"... "Who are you gonna believe,?...
Me?, ...or your lying eyes ?
Ol Pea Brain 's so dumb ....He'd say, "Oh I believe you honey.... That
poor man was cold and you were just helping him get warm.".....
Ha,ha,ha,ha,hee.hee.hee..... ROTFLMAO!!
> www.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/browse_thread/thread/849dad6a...
Walt
I believe that question has been answered by several posters, among
them was Von Pea Brain....Who said there is no hole in the sleeve of
that shirt, what you see is the cops thumb.
Von Pea Brain's statement verifies that in addition to the photo
which shows that the LHO's arrest shirt was GRAY it also never had the
hole in the right elbow like the REDDISH BROWN shirt that Oswald took
off at 1:00 and left in the dresser in his room. Pea Brain knows that
Oswald changed his shirt, and the FBI screwed up and stated that the
fibers matched fresh shirt that he put on.in his room at 1026 N.
beckley before jumping on the bus and going to the Texas Theater.
The Cops made Oswald remove his shirt so that it could be sent along
with the rest of the evidence that was being sent to the FBI at
midnight. When Stombaugh received that GRAY shirt he assumed that it
was the shirt that Lee had been wearing at the time of the shooting,
so when the tuft of fibers were found and they matched that shirt he
thought they had a solid bit of evidence that Oswald had had that
rifle against his shoulder in the recent past, because the "fibers
were fresh" . They later discovered that Oswald had changed his
shirt and therefore if he'd have had the rifle against his shoulder
the fibers should have matched the BROWN shirt that Lee had left in
his dresser. Hoover tried desperately to cover up that screw up by
making Stombaugh testify about fibers rather than the shirt itself.
In a normal testimony the shirt would have been described as: This is
a man's gay colored long sleeved sport shirt with a pointed collar and
buttons down the front. It is a size medium with the label
reading.....blah, blah, blah...... But Stombaugh never describes it
in this manner... He just spews bullshit about the fibers....Which
incidentally came from a GRAY shirt.
David Von Pein
So ALL five "brown shirt" witnesses (including two NON-DPD people)
were liars....right Walt? Yes or no?
Walt
> So ALL five "brown shirt" witnesses (including two NON-DPD people)
> were liars....right Walt? Yes or no?
Liars??? Maybe some were.... I donno.... Maybe they had been
influenced by being shown the brown shirt with the hole in the sleeve
that Oswald had left in his room.
To be perfectly frank.... That is one of the things that has always
bothered me about Mary Bledsoe's testimony.
In her testimony she says a few says after the assassination that some
men ( probably FBI) brought the brown shirt out to her house and
asked her if she'd ever seen it before. That action without a doubt
influenced that old woman. If they hadn't presented that shirt would
she have been able to "identify" the man on the bus as Oswald??
Which leaves me wondering if she really saw Oswald on Cecil Mc
Watters bus??? And did she "remember " that hole in the elbow because
she actually noticed it on the bus or did she "remember" it because it
was pointed out to her by the FBL agents???
There's no way to know..... But since the Warren Commission accepted
her testimony that Oswald was wearing that brown shirt with the hole
in the elbow, and Oswald said he changed his shirt in his room at
1:00pm and that Brown shirt was found in his room later that
afternoon. I'm compelled to accept that Oswald was in fact wearing
thar DARK REDDISH BROWN shirt at the time that JFK was murdered.
How many other witnesses were influenced by the FBI agents showing
them the brown shirt???
Bud
> So ALL five "brown shirt" witnesses (including two NON-DPD people)
> were liars....right Walt? Yes or no?
More than that. The Dallas police evidence inventory lists a brown
shirt. The bus transfer was found in the shirt Oswald was arrested in,
which means he would also need to have transfered it from one shirt to
the other if Oswald changed his shirt at the boardinghouse. The Bill
Winfrey photo showing damage to the sleeve which matches CE150. The
color photo of Oswald`s arrest showing it to be the brown shirt.
Walt`s retarded scenarios always depend heavily on what he thinks
he can see in bad quality evidence photos (he thinks he can see better
in these than people there in person could have seen), and they always
require a scad of people lying, and a scad of evidence doctored. Such
is the way of the kook.
There are several explanations why Oswald`s shirt appears light
colored in the arrest photo on Tom`s website. It could be Oz`s white t-
shirt seen, with the brown shirt pulled down out of sight with the
cops around him (most likely, I think, he was just in a struggle in a
shirt that had the top three or four buttons missing). It could be the
bright sunlight bleaching out the color in the photo. It could be that
Oswald was purposely lightened for contrast, so he could be picked out
from the surrounding dark clothing around him (what good is the photo
if the primary person of interest can`t be discerned?). And as for the
hole in CE150 not being seen in the clenched fist photo, of course the
photo not showing a hole does not mean the shirt has no hole out of
sight (despite Walt`s claim that it must). Bledsoe said the hole was
at the elbow, but that doesn`t establish that as the exact location of
the hole. The Nara photo shows the square patch missing not really at
the elbow, more on the forearm. It might not have been a hole which
had worn through at the elbow (why would the shirt have worn through
at that one place?) but was likely just caught on something and torn.
It`s possible that there was jagged tear at that place, and that was
cut out square to make it less noticeable.
http://www.maryferrell.org/wiki/images/b/b7/Photo_naraevid_CE150-1.jpg
Gil Jesus
> So ALL five "brown shirt" witnesses (including two NON-DPD people)
> were liars....right Walt? Yes or no?
You seem to believe that all the witnesses who saw the large defect at
the back of the skull were either lying or mistaken ( and there was a
helluva lot more than 5 witnesses ) ........so what would be the odds
of three cops lying and pressuring two witnesses to agree with them
be ?
Very possible.
The photographs of Oswald in custody ( that I've seen anyways ) do not
corroborate the description of the shirt with the hole in the right
elbow as described by Mrs. Bledsoe.
It appears that Oswald was telling the truth when he said that he had
returned to his room and changed his shirt.
It also appears that the FBI LIED when it concluded that the ARRESTED
( Grey ) shirt fibers were found on the rifle.
Unless you can come up with the PHYSICAL evidence that backs up your
claims and witnesses, well, you know, "Physical and scientific
evidence TRUMPS eyewitness testimony any day of the week."
Ask YoHarvey
Bud
>
> Atheist Anti-SemiteBudmakes fun of the Jewish people.Budwrites:
>
> And, for Tom Lowry, a jewish joke....
>
> A jew was walking down the road when he was set upon by two
> highwaymen. After a furious struggle of more than an hour, they were
> able to wrest the money the jew had away from him. "Do you believe he
> put up such a terrific fight for only a nickle" asked the first thug.
> "Thank God he didn`t have a dime, or he`d have killed us" replied the
> second.
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/1082daf25ad71d92
Well, at least you linked to it, so people can read it in context.
> ------------------------
>
> BUDON JFK
>
> "Perhaps had Kennedy lived, we would have all dies (sic) in a nuclear
> holocaust".
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/10623658e759a0e8
Yah, kooks always assert that had Kennedy lived, we`d all be living
in some sort of heaven on Earth. I was pointing out that that is
unknown, and it is always possible that something monumentally bad
might also has occurred. It`s interesting, because I was just reading
a Skeptic magazine article last night called "The New Revisionism:
What If Hitler Had Won The War". The historical revisonism being done
for Hitler and Nazism is similar to that done on Kennedy`s behalf by
the kooks (and on Oswald`s behalf in the assassination). It`s all a
matter of being selective about what information you choose as valid,
and what information you chose to disregard. The case can be made (and
supported) that Hitler was only reacting to the aggression of
American, Russia and England. It is only a matter of isolating any
actions taken by these countries, and labeling them as provocative and
threatening to Germany. Russia attacked Finland for no good reason,
how could Germany know they wouldn`t be attacked in a similar fashion
when Russia got stronger in a few years?
> ---------------------
>
> BUDON GEOGRAPHY
>
> Budalso thinks New Zealand is part of Australia. On the subject of
> the Christchurch (New Zealand) newspaper's printing of Oswald's bio
> too early,
>
> Budwrites:
>
> "The kooks seem to think that the Conspiracy alerted the Australian
> media ...of things before they unfolded."
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/875dada84dad54b7
>
> At least the "kooks" know that New Zealand is its own country,Bud.
As I pointed out before, it wasn`t a geographical mistake, I thought
the Christchurch newspaper was an Australian publication at the time.
> ----------------------
>
> BUD'SRETARDED ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS
>
> The bullet fragments allegedly found in the limousine were never
> photographed in their places as discovered.
>
> BUD: So?
Yah, so? What critical information was lost not having a photograpgh
of the fragments in the limo? Their locations were recorded.
> CE 399 had no bone particles, NO CLOTHING FIBERS and no blood on it
> from either victim.
>
> BUD: It was carried in the pockets of a few people.
This is true. Does Gil think carrying a bullet in a pocket could
not remove material from that bullet?
> A bullet that contained no proof that it passed through any human
> bodies
>
> BUD: Is such proof necessary?
Can you cite a forensic source that says a bullet that passes
through a body must contain proof in the form of blood, clothing
fibers or bone particles? It would carry more weight than a retard
making such a claim.
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/211b857f0638c734
Bud
> On Jan 25, 9:34 am, David Von Pein <davevonp...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > So ALL five "brown shirt" witnesses (including two NON-DPD people)
> > were liars....right Walt? Yes or no?
>
> You seem to believe that all the witnesses who saw the large defect at
> the back of the skull were either lying or mistaken ( and there was a
> helluva lot more than 5 witnesses ) ........so what would be the odds
> of three cops lying and pressuring two witnesses to agree with them
> be ?
>
> Very possible.
Then we can`t believe one single witness. Now we are getting
somewhere.
> The photographs of Oswald in custody ( that I've seen anyways ) do not
> corroborate the description of the shirt with the hole in the right
> elbow as described by Mrs. Bledsoe.
CE150 has all the identifying features mentioned by Blesoe, a hole
in the right sleeve and missing buttons.
> It appears that Oswald was telling the truth when he said that he had
> returned to his room and changed his shirt.
How do we know the cops didn`t lie about him saying this?
> It also appears that the FBI LIED when it concluded that the ARRESTED
> ( Grey ) shirt fibers were found on the rifle.
It appears you are retarded. As clearly shown, Oswald was arrested
in the brown shirt, CE150. Multiple photos and testimony confirms
this.
> Unless you can come up with the PHYSICAL evidence that backs up your
> claims and witnesses, well, you know, "Physical and scientific
> evidence TRUMPS eyewitness testimony any day of the week."
The whole proposition is stupid. Even if Oswald was arrested in the
gray shirt (which he wasn`t), the fibers from the brown shirt he wore
during the day of the assassination being on the rifle would still be
damning. The WC never said when the fibers were transfered onto the
rifle, and any fibers from any clothing Oswald owned on the rifle
would be incriminating (even clothing he didn`t wear that day).
> Ask YoHarvey
tomnln
"Gil Jesus" <gjj...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:7906e520-93f3-4b8d...@l33g2000pri.googlegroups.com...
HELL HAS FROZEN OVER..............J/K......ROFLMAO.
Hey;
Once a nice guy....Always a nice guy.
muc...@gmail.com
> "Gil Jesus" <gjjm...@aol.com> wrote in message
So, according to you, Gil must have been born an asshole?
tomnln
<muc...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:f64f283a-b50a-4689...@z6g2000pre.googlegroups.com...
No No No;
I said YOU were born with AIDS because your momma was a Crack Whore.
Wanna address these crimes by the authorities NOW???>>>
http://whokilledjfk.net/altering_evidence.htm
http://whokilledjfk.net/PROVEN%20LIES.htm
http://whokilledjfk.net/CASE%20DISMISSED.htm
\
muc...@gmail.com
> <much...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:f64f283a-b50a-4689...@z6g2000pre.googlegroups.com...
>
> > On 25 Jan., 19:25, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
> >> "Gil Jesus" <gjjm...@aol.com> wrote in message
>
> >>news:7906e520-93f3-4b8d...@l33g2000pri.googlegroups.com...
> >> On Jan 24, 4:11 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> >> >http://whokilledjfk.net/you_asked_for_it.htm
>
> >> > What would you do without me Wally???
>
> >> Rossley backing up Walt ?
>
> >> HELL HAS FROZEN OVER..............J/K......ROFLMAO.
>
> >> Hey;
>
> >> Once a nice guy....Always a nice guy.
>
> > So, according to you, Gil must have been born an asshole?
>
> No No No;
>
> I said YOU were born with AIDS because your momma was a Crack Whore.
Did I hit a nerve? What happened to Mr. Nice Guy?
Walt
Dud.....It's obvious that you're a drowning man graspin at
straws......
Most honest folks can see that the shirt Oswald was wearing when he
was brought out of the theater most certainly is NOT that brick red
shirt with the hole in the elbow. Try as you will you can't convince
many viewers of that photo that the shirt is any color but gray. I'm
sure you'll try to say that the gray shirt is brick red but all honest
folks will see that you're a liar.
>
> http://www.maryferrell.org/wiki/images/b/b7/Photo_naraevid_CE150-1.jpg
Walt
There are many copies of CE 150 which is the brick red shirt that
Oswald was wearing in the bus just minutes after the shooting. On
page 186 of TKOAP there is a good picture of the brown shirt that Lee
left in the dresser in his room at 1026 N Beckley. The ragged hole at
the elbow is clearly visible. I'm rather surprised that you know so
little about the shirt. There is a whole book full of information
about the FBI linking the rifle to the wrong shirt and how Hoover
tried his best to cover up that fact.
tomnln
<muc...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:f73c4e4c-d255-4c7a...@35g2000pry.googlegroups.com...
You need to learn "RETALIATION".
I see you're STILL run nin from your own evidence/testimony>>>
http://whokilledjfk.net/altering_evidence.htm
http://whokilledjfk.net/PROVEN%20LIES.htm
http://whokilledjfk.net/CASE%20DISMISSED.htm
That's why you snipped them AGAIN !
tomnln
I wonder if mucher can tell us where Rob Spencer is hiding since he was
proven to be a Lying WCR Apologist.
<muc...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:f73c4e4c-d255-4c7a...@35g2000pry.googlegroups.com...
Bud
CE150 isn`t brick red. and the hole does not appear to be at the
elbow.
> Try as you will you can't convince
> many viewers of that photo that the shirt is any color but gray.
A photo showing the shirt`s true color (brown) has been posted.
Where have you been?
> I'm
> sure you'll try to say that the gray shirt is brick red but all honest
> folks will see that you're a liar.
You have a single photo, taken from a distance, where the shirt
appears to be light. The preponderance of evidence shows that photo
to be misleading. But, how can you figure these things out when you
can`t even figure out what window the shots were fired from?
> > http://www.maryferrell.org/wiki/images/b/b7/Photo_naraevid_CE150-1.jpg
Bud
And if the missing square of fabric shown in the NARA was folded, it
couldn`t appear nonuniform and ragged?
> I'm rather surprised that you know so
> little about the shirt. There is a whole book full of information
> about the FBI linking the rifle to the wrong shirt and how Hoover
> tried his best to cover up that fact.
Produce some of this information that backs up your contention. That
one photo is uncompelling against the array of evidence that Oswald
was arrested in CE150.
Walt
You belong in the Rubber Wall Hotel !.....If you think I'm going to
waste my time trying to teach you anything. Any nut who would look at
a gray shirt and proclaim it to be brown has a screw loose. I've
studied this extensively and I know the FBI screwed up and linked the
tuft of fibers that they found under the butt plate of the TSBD rifle
to the wrong shirt.
After Oswald had gone to fertilize Rose Hill, they realized they had
screwed up and pulled out all stops to cover up their mistake. Hoover
had always nurtured the myth that the FBI was infallible and he wasn't
about to have any hick cops from Texas reveal that his venerated FBI
had made a serious mistake in investigating a case that was simmering
with the words "cover up" on everybody's lips.
>
>
>
> > more on the forearm. It might not have been a hole which
>
> > > had worn through at the elbow (why would the shirt have worn through
> > > at that one place?) but was likely just caught on something and torn.
> > > It`s possible that there was jagged tear at that place, and that was
> > > cut out square to make it less noticeable.
>
> > > http://www.maryferrell.org/wiki/images/b/b7/Photo_naraevid_CE150-1.jpg- Hide quoted text -
Gil Jesus
> You belong in the Rubber Wall Hotel !.....If you think I'm going to
> waste my time trying to teach you anything. Any nut who would look at
> a gray shirt and proclaim it to be brown has a screw loose.
Waste is right, Walt.
They just won't see the King as being naked. To them, he is adorned in
the most beautiful clothes they've ever seen.
IOW, They even deny what they see with their own two eyes.
It's time we stopped wasting our time trying to "prove" anything to
them and dignifying their foolishness with responses.
It's just a waste of time.
aeffects
finally a breath of fresh air..... :) ridicule is the word of the
hour..... besides I have to get back to work..... thanks for letting
me flood the place for a bit, I'll cherish the moment.....
Bud
What can you teach me, how to be retarded?
>Any nut who would look at
> a gray shirt and proclaim it to be brown has a screw loose.
Why do you keep pretending you haven`t been shown a color photo
showing the shirt to be brown?
> I've
> studied this extensively and I know the FBI screwed up and linked the
> tuft of fibers that they found under the butt plate of the TSBD rifle
> to the wrong shirt.
Convincing yourself was the easy part. You aren`t showing anything
here, you are being out-pointed on every issue. You have to invoke
some imaginary "honest people" to support your position. You haven`t
given one good reason why the color in that one photo should outweigh
the color in other photos, plus witness testimony.
> After Oswald had gone to fertilize Rose Hill, they realized they had
> screwed up and pulled out all stops to cover up their mistake. Hoover
> had always nurtured the myth that the FBI was infallible and he wasn't
> about to have any hick cops from Texas reveal that his venerated FBI
> had made a serious mistake in investigating a case that was simmering
> with the words "cover up" on everybody's lips.
You figured all that out from one long distance photo of Oswald
being taken from the Texas theater. And the problem with your wacky
theory is that ANY fibers from ANY clothing Oswald owned is JUST as
incriminating being on the murder weapon.
>
> > > more on the forearm. It might not have been a hole which
>
> > > > had worn through at the elbow (why would the shirt have worn through
> > > > at that one place?) but was likely just caught on something and torn.
> > > > It`s possible that there was jagged tear at that place, and that was
> > > > cut out square to make it less noticeable.
>
> > > > http://www.maryferrell.org/wiki/images/b/b7/Photo_naraevid_CE150-1.jpg-Hide quoted text -
Walt
The Dud wrote:...."ANY fibers from ANY clothing Oswald owned is JUST
as incriminating being on the murder weapon."
What an outstanding example of the Dud's "reasoning".....
Hey Dud... Are you related to Rob?.... You're the guy that's always
telling others that they lack the reasoning ability to be researching
the assassination, and you offer this absurd idea.....Ha,ha,ha,
hee,hee,hee, .....
Any fibers from Oswald's clothing on that rifle don't prove a damned
thing.... But the authorities were in a panic....they had found
NOTHING solid to connect Oswald to the murder of JFK, but Henry Wade,
and Curry had shot their mouths off about finding Oswald's prints on
the rifle and other things. When Stombaugh found that tuft of fibers
they thought they had someting that would connect Oswald to the
rifle. Stombaugh didn't realize that the gray shirt with no hole in
the elbow was the shirt that Oswald had put on at 1:00pm. He thought
that it was the same shirt that Oswald was wearing at the time JFK was
murdered. Those fibers didn't mean a damned thing because they got
on that rifle AFTER both the rifle and Oswald's shirt were in the
hands of the authorities. But Hoover wasn't about to admit that his
infallable FBI agents were human and could make human mistakes.
The fact that you would make such a stupid statement reveals that you
have the reasoning ability of a common garden slug. Ha,ha,ha,
hee,hee,hee.... ROTFLMAO!!
>
>
>
>
>
> > > > more on the forearm. It might not have been a hole which
>
> > > > > had worn through at the elbow (why would the shirt have worn through
> > > > > at that one place?) but was likely just caught on something and torn.
> > > > > It`s possible that there was jagged tear at that place, and that was
> > > > > cut out square to make it less noticeable.
>
> > > > > http://www.maryferrell.org/wiki/images/b/b7/Photo_naraevid_CE150-1.jp...quoted text -
tims...@gmail.com
In other words, it's time for Gilly to cut and run, and he encourages
Walt to do likewise.
What a completely stupid thing for Gil to post, given his own
performance over the Walker shooting matter and whether Walker was
wounded or not.
The fellow really is a joke as a JFK researcher, not a crackerjack,
and his friend Walt is barely literate, LOL!
Regards,
Tim Brennan
Sydney, Australia
*Newsgroup(s) Commentator*
aeffects
next your going to want someone to hold your wallet, ya fucking
idiot.... as if anyone gives a shit about you and your non-research
abilities. Why your a moron is simple, you think your JFK
assassination opinions are important.... ROTFLMFAO!
Regards,
Aeffects (JGL's boyfriend)
Bud
I bet you won`t touch the idea.
> Any fibers from Oswald's clothing on that rifle don't prove a damned
> thing....
Did I say they did, retard? I said it was incriminating. They
indicate guilt. It doesn`t really matter if the fibers found on the
rifle are from CE150 or CE151, they are both Oswald`s shirts, so they
help make a connection between Oswald and the rifle. You are just too
stupid to realize this.
> But the authorities were in a panic....they had found
> NOTHING solid to connect Oswald to the murder of JFK, but Henry Wade,
> and Curry had shot their mouths off about finding Oswald's prints on
> the rifle and other things. When Stombaugh found that tuft of fibers
> they thought they had someting that would connect Oswald to the
> rifle. Stombaugh didn't realize that the gray shirt with no hole in
> the elbow was the shirt that Oswald had put on at 1:00pm. He thought
> that it was the same shirt that Oswald was wearing at the time JFK was
> murdered. Those fibers didn't mean a damned thing because they got
> on that rifle AFTER both the rifle and Oswald's shirt were in the
> hands of the authorities. But Hoover wasn't about to admit that his
> infallable FBI agents were human and could make human mistakes.
A retard uses his imagination to concoct a story. He has himself
convinced he knows what people thought, and what they did. Can`t show
any of it, mind you, but you`d think he was in the room as it went
down.
> The fact that you would make such a stupid statement reveals that you
> have the reasoning ability of a common garden slug. Ha,ha,ha,
> hee,hee,hee.... ROTFLMAO!!
Your giggling is a sure sign you are squirming. I notice you skip
over the issues I`ve been raising without addressing them. How do you
know the photo you like has the color correct, and not this one (I
found what looks to me to be the sharpest I`ve seen of this photo)...
http://graphics.boston.com/resize/bonzai-fba/Globe_Photo/2008/07/24/1216956596_6137/539w.jpg
Or, maybe you can explain how all the B&W photos of Oswald`s in
custody show it to be dark, and with a pattern, when CE151 (the shirt
you claim Oswald was arrested in) is light, with no pattern?
http://www.jfklancer.com/photos/LHO/LHOincustody.jpg
> > > > > more on the forearm. It might not have been a hole which
>
> > > > > > had worn through at the elbow (why would the shirt have worn through
> > > > > > at that one place?) but was likely just caught on something and torn.
> > > > > > It`s possible that there was jagged tear at that place, and that was
> > > > > > cut out square to make it less noticeable.
>
> > > > > > http://www.maryferrell.org/wiki/images/b/b7/Photo_naraevid_CE150-1.jp...text -
tims...@gmail.com
Hi Toots-E-Roll fella, er, I mean David *aeffects* Healy, published
author on <snicker> *Z Film Alteration*. Say, surprised to see you
here still. Didn't you post the following around January 3 on a thread
entitled *It appears*?
QUOTE ON:
time has come.... no further reason for me to continually thrash the
Lone Nut pukes and the wannabes (aka: trolls) on the acj board.
The Lone Nut cause and the 'only' Lone Nut hope for salvation is
Vinnie daBugliosi, and his elusive band of merry pranksters posing as
JFK assassination researchers.
So what can we expect from those trolls? Hell, not much -- they can't
even keep their USENET board aliases correct). Some of these Lone
Nutters were more fun during the old Comp-U-puke er, Serve days. At
least they could present an argument unlike these latter-day copy-n-
paste no nothings..... LMFAO!
Just goes to show what becoming delinquent with student loans will do
for the Lone Nut clan....
Many thanks to Walt, Gil, Laz, Tom Purvis. and all those silent
lurkers, CT and LN leaning alike (most whom bought the Great Zapruder
Film Hoax) whom to THIS day desire more case research.
Ben Holmes 45 Questions and 16 Smoking Guns -- Gil Jesus and his 50+
questions (concerning WCR, evidence, testimony, exhibits, photos and
films) -- Thank You....
Special thanks to Rich DellaRosa, Jim Fetzer Ph.D, Jack White, David
Mantik M.D, Ph.D, John Costella Ph.D, David Lifton, Harry Livingstone,
ALL great, serious minded researchers. And yes, Roland Zavada, a great
guy but no conception of film compositing despite many years working
for KODAK. Dave Reitzes and his alter ego (alias) David Von Pein --
the two biggest scam and co[y-n-paste artists in the history of JFK
assassination related USNET boards (we weren't fooled guy!).
But, most of all, Ben Holmes (a person I've never met)... Ben, you
need to write a book concerning JFK assassination evidence and broader
implications concerning the case. You, single handedly have turned the
WCR/SBT/LHO done it all by his lonesome-Lone Nut crowd into a pretzel
factory. The Lone Nuts meet themselves coming and going, at EVERY
turn..... the smarter of the Lone Nut bunch have given you a wide
berth, for damn good reason[s] too!
And finally, Bud the Lone Nut Dudster, son, I think you're a true CT
at heart. However, even in your current state of weakness, you're the
only, ONLY professing Lone Nut on this board worthy for public debate.
If you'd only break away from the trolls you post with and FOR I'd
probably make my way on stage for a Zapruder Film alteration debate
with you, for the cameras of course -- you're second can be Dave *I
can't help but being David Von Pein too* Reitzes, Gary Mack would be
fine with me, too!
B. and Dixie, I'll still check in now and then at the old JFK forum...
My last thread, but I'll be alurkin'
David Healy (aka aeffects, read it and weep, Jer... ya old CIA troll
you)
p.s. the rest of you Lone Nut dipshits, I'm sure Lowry can find room
for ya in his Los Angeles Rosemead Cemetery crypt, of course only if
you do brown....
QUOTE OFF
Why did you go to all that trouble, Toots-E-Roll fella, when your
[sic] still here?
Just having a bit of a bad day that day, were we? You're certainly a
man of your word, Toots! :-)
David Von Pein
>>> "Any nut who would look at a gray shirt and proclaim it to be brown has a screw loose." <<<
Why isn't the shirt gray in this picture, Walt?:
David Von Pein
>>> "The authorities were in a panic....they had found NOTHING solid to connect Oswald to the murder of JFK." <<<
LOL.
LOL (again)!
Yeah, I guess you're right, Walt. The authorities had nothing at all
on Lee Harvey. Only these little items:
Oswald's rifle on the Floor Of Death.
Oswald's prints all over the place where the sniper was.
Oswald's print on the gun.
Bullets from Oz's gun in the limo & hospital.
Shells from Oz's gun in the SN.
Oswald kills Tippit.
Oswald attempts to kill more cops in the theater.
Oswald lies continually on 11/22 through 11/24.
Positive identification of Oswald as the killer of JFK & Tippit.
Yeah...Walt's right. The cops had zilch on this guy. They needed to
manufacture that "shirt ruse" to have any chance at all of convicting
the bastard. To hell with those 9 piddly little items listed above.
They HAD TO HAVE THE SHIRT EVIDENCE TO CONVICT! It's so obvious!
BTW, in case it has escaped anybody's notice in the last few days --
Walt is a walking, talking "JFK Conspiracy Caricature". (And, of
course, he's also a retarded, evidence-mangling kook.)
Walt
> >>> "The authorities were in a panic....they had found NOTHING solid to connect Oswald to the murder of JFK." <<<
>
> LOL.
>
> LOL (again)!
>
> Yeah, I guess you're right, Walt. The authorities had nothing at all
> on Lee Harvey. Only these little items:
>
> Oswald's rifle on the Floor Of Death.
The OWNERSHIP of the rifle was never established...... We've covered
that.
The rifle was found on the sixth floor completely burried beneath
heavy boxes of books. Oswald nor anybody else would not have had time
to bury that rifle in that manner.....Therefore that rifle wasn't even
fired that day.
> Oswald's prints all over the place where the sniper was.
He worked there.....So why wouldn't his fingerprints be in that
place??
> Oswald's print on the gun.
You are a liar.... We've covered this lie before and you should know
by now that there were NO IDENTIFIABLE PRINTS found on that rifle.
> Bullets from Oz's gun in the limo & hospital.
How were they delivered to the places they were found?? There is no
proof that the magic bullet was fired that day, and you should be
aware that the legitimacy of that bullet is one of the most
controversial pieces of evidence in the whole case.
> Shells from Oz's gun in the SN.
Ypu and damaged in a fashion that PROVES that they could not have
fired a projectile that day.
> Oswald kills Tippit.
GROAN...... What an absolutely STUPID thing to present as "evidence"
> Oswald attempts to kill more cops in the theater.
Another utterly STUPID counterpoint
> Oswald lies continually on 11/22 through 11/24.
Another utterly STUPID counterpoint
> Positive identification of Oswald as the killer of JFK & Tippit.
What a gargantuan LIAR you are..... How many times have you and I
discussed Howard Brennan's DESCRIPTION of the sixth floor
sniper?? You know damned well that Brennan DESCRIBED a man who
was NOT Lee Oswald.
David Von Pein
>>> "You know damned well that Brennan DESCRIBED a man who was NOT Lee Oswald." <<<
Since we know beyond all reasonable doubt (via other non-Brennan
evidence) that Lee Oswald was in the SN window with a gun when Brennan
was looking at that southeast corner window at 12:30 PM on Nov.
22nd....then Brennan had no CHOICE but to have seen Mr. Oswald in that
window.
So, Brennan could not have seen any other person in that window other
than Lee H. Oswald (given the weight of the evidence that tells any
reasonable person that Oswald was, in fact, there).
David Von Pein
>>> "There were NO IDENTIFIABLE PRINTS found on that rifle." <<<
Bullshit.
Watch your stupid "Anybody But Oswald" fantasy go up in smoke at the
2:08 mark of this video:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nAGnVHs9y4
"These are definitely the fingerprints of Lee Harvey Oswald, and
they ARE on the rifle [on the triggerguard]. There is no doubt about
it." -- Vincent Scalice; Fingerprint expert; 1993
(Let me guess....Scalice is a liar. Right, Walt-Kook?)
Walt
>
> Or, maybe you can explain how all the B&W photos of Oswald`s in
> custody show it to be dark, and with a pattern, when CE151 (the shirt
> you claim Oswald was arrested in) is light, with no pattern?
Or, maybe you can explain how all the B&W photos of Oswald`s in
custody show it to be dark, and with a pattern, when CE151 (the shirt
you claim Oswald was arrested in) is light, with no pattern?
First off... I've NEVER said that CE 151 was the gray shirt that
Oswald was wearing when he was brought from the theater...... Where
did you get that idea??
Or, maybe you can explain how all the B&W photos of Oswald`s in
custody show it to be dark, and with a pattern, when CE151 is light,
with no pattern?
OUCH!!!....I'll bet it hurts to shoot yourself in the foot like
this..... huh, Dud?
You've just pointed out that the shirt that Oswald was wearing at the
theater is DIFFERENT than the brick brown shirt with the hole in the
elbow that Mary Bledsoe said he was wearing on the bus, just minutes
after the shooting.
Yer not the brighest bulb on the tree,... are ya, Dud?
>
> http://www.jfklancer.com/photos/LHO/LHOincustody.jpg
>
>
>
> > > > > > more on the forearm. It might not have been a hole which
>
> > > > > > > had worn through at the elbow (why would the shirt have worn through
> > > > > > > at that one place?) but was likely just caught on something and torn.
> > > > > > > It`s possible that there was jagged tear at that place, and that was
> > > > > > > cut out square to make it less noticeable.
>
> > > > > > > http://www.maryferrell.org/wiki/images/b/b7/Photo_naraevid_CE150-1.jp...-
Walt
Ha,ha,ha,hee,hee,hee......LOL!...
You assholes are the very ones to try to discredit any CT because the
CT has discovered a solid piece of evidence in a photograph that
refutes some aspect of Hoover's lie...... And yet you attempt to
present the absurd idea that this sleeze Scalice working with old
photographs can take bits and pieces from different photos, and fit
them together and make a "finger print" that matches Lee Oswald's.
Ha,ha,ha, hee,hee,hee....ROTFLMAO!!...
To be perfectly candid with you, I do believe that the TSBD rifle was
in Oswald's possession at some point in time. So it's possible that
his finger prints could have been on it....But scalice's attempt to
prove it is utterly ridiculous. Many other finger print experts
examined the actual rifle and all of the photos and declared that they
could not identify the partial prints as being those of Oswald.....
Yer an idiot!
David Von Pein
>>> "Many other finger print experts examined the actual rifle and all of the photos and declared that they
could not identify the partial prints as being those of Oswald." <<<
Scalice, utilizing a method nobody had previously tried, says
otherwise.
Live with that fact, kook.
Walt
Hey asshole..... Let's back up just a bit..... If you'll get your head
out of your ass you'll realize that I said that Hoover was desperate
to find ANYTHING that would link the rifle to Oswald in the first days
of the case. That's why he jumped at Stombaugh's mistake about the
tuft fibers matching the shirt that Oswald was wearing when he was
arrested. You're trying to jump ahead 30 years and present scalice's
absurd crap as though it was FBI information at the time.
Incidentally here's a simple exercise that any sixth grader can
handle...... That will prove that there was no hole in the elbow of
the shirt that Oswald was wearing when arrested.
Enlarge Bill Winfrey's "clinched fist" photo and any good Warren
Commission photo of the brick brown shirt (CE 150) so that you have
nice large copies to work with. Now using the cuff on that sleeve as a
scale measue how far the hole in the elbow was from the cuff of the
shirt in CE 150. I believe you'll find that it was approximately 3
1/2 cuff widths, from the end of the sleeve to the hole Now using the
width of the cuff in Winfrey's photo measure the distance from the end
of the sleeve to the tip of Oswald's elbow, I believe you'll find that
there are approximately 4 1/2 cuff widths of sleeve shown. Now it's
elementary that 3.5 is less than 4.5 so IF there was a hole in the
shirt that Oswald was wearing when arrested that hole would be seen in
Winfrey's "Clinched Fist" photo.
But there IS NO HOLE ..... Therefore this shirt is NOT the brick brown
shirt that Oswald was wearing when he boarded cecil Mc Watter's bus
Walt
> On Jan 24, 4:11 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> >http://whokilledjfk.net/you_asked_for_it.htm
>
> > What would you do without me Wally???
>
> Rossley backing up Walt ?
>
> HELL HAS FROZEN OVER..............J/K......ROFLMAO.
I said a while back....That Rossley is the kind of creature who would
"help" a drowning man by tossing him an anvil.
He proved that my judge of his character was 100% accurate. Take a
look at the link to the shirt.
Rossley's a kind man..... The kind that would have been fragged in
combat, because he's a bigger liability than an asset.
tomnln
(Queen of Wild Speculation)
"Walt" <papakoc...@evertek.net> wrote in message
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Walt
> On Jan 24, 4:11 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> >http://whokilledjfk.net/you_asked_for_it.htm
>
> > What would you do without me Wally???
>
> Rossley backing up Walt ?
>
> HELL HAS FROZEN OVER..............J/K......ROFLMAO.
Gil, it appears that Rossley never intended to support me, in his
senility he didn't realize that the shirt is gray in the photo on page
154. When you posted this it made him angry and caused him to take a
second look, and that's when he realized that he's screwed up. He's
now replaced the photo from page 154 with the photo from page 153.
This should show you what a "fine man" Rossley is.
tomnln
Hey Wally World;
Were the photos of Oswald's arrest on pages 153-154 taken on Different days?
ps;
As for my "support" of you....
I've been filing your requests for evidence/testimony for over EIGHT 98)
Years.
Only because you're TOO Cheap tyo buy the 26 Volumes.
Look for the arrest photos from pages 153-154 on the website.
(I guess you didn't like the photo of Oswald's shirt I alreadt posted, Huh
SHILL???)
tims...@gmail.com
Don't worry, Walt. Here is the original graphic that tomnln posted (of
the Reed photos) before he decided to change it to the MacCommon
photos:
http://whokilledjfk.net/you_as56.jpg
Gotta say though, Walt, the MacCommon photo is a much better photo to
use to determine the colour of Oswald's shirt, in my view.
tims...@gmail.com
> http://whokilledjfk.net/you_asked_for_it.htm
>
> What would you do without me Wally???
>
>
> news:37224305-b89e-415a...@f40g2000pri.googlegroups.com...
> On 24 Jan, 12:39, much...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>
>
> > On 24 Jan., 19:35, Walt <papakochenb...@evertek.net> wrote:
>
> > > On 24 Jan, 11:59, David Von Pein <davevonp...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > > > >>> "No it is NOT merely a cropped version ...you conniving asshole.
> > > > >>> Why do you LNer's have to lie and attempt to deceive?" <snipping a
> > > > >>> kook> <<<
>
> > > > I don't have the Goddamn book you're referring to, you retarded SOB!
> > > > Should I say that a third time in my next post?
>
> > > > Therefore, I have no f-ing idea what picture you're talking about. But
> > > > it sure sounds like you're talking about a VERSION of the same picture
> > > > that's already been posted in this thread.
>
> > > > Is it a version of that very same picture, Mr. Kook?
>
> > > I've already told you a couple of times,but I'll type this real slow
> > > so that you can understand.... NO! IT IS NOT THE SAME PHOTO.
>
> > This would be a good opportunity for Walt's CT amigos to back him up.
>
> Why couldn't any HONEST reader post a link to the photo on page
> 154....As far as I know I have no "amigos" in this NG.
>
> I have no amigos, because I don't endorse somebody simply because they
> claim to be a CT or an LNer. If someone presents FACTUAL data I'll
> applaud it and I don't give a damn whether their Jersey has a LN or a
> CT on it.
Hi tomnln,
Say, this was where you posted that copy of page 154 of Groden's
Oswald book for Walt.
Why did you say you couldn't remember what book it came from when Walt
specifically requested page 154 of Groden's TSFLHO book, tomnln?
Why do you NOW have page 153 of Groden's TSFLHO book on your *You
Asked For It* page, tomnln?
No one asked for THAT page, tomnln. People already had a perfectly
good copy of the MacCammon photo to look at, as anyone rereading this
thread would be aware.
Here is your original scan of page 154 just in case you *lost* it,
tomnln:
http://whokilledjfk.net/you_as56.jpg
You haven't been playing fast and loose with the truth now, have you
tomnln? Tomnln?
tims...@gmail.com
Hey tomnln, if you go to post # 17 in this thread you will see where
you supplied the scan of page 154 of TSFLHO at Walt's request. This
makes me wonder why you wrote the following in a reply to me on
another thread:
QUOTE ON:
I already explained my Library is so voluminous that I didn't remember
which
book I scanned the first photo from.
QUOTE OFF
How could you NOT remember when Walt's SPECIFIC request was for a scan
of page 154 of TSFLHO??
You even had the page number listed on your website, LOL!
Your lies are getting more blatant as the days go by, tomnln.
Time to 'fess up, I think.
tomnln
Do you suppose Oswald got arrested TWICE on 11/22/63 wearing different
shirts??/
Does Oswald look like....
5 ft. 3 inches tall?
Blond Haired?
119 pounds?
<tims...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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tomnln
http://whokilledjfk.net/you_asked_for_it.htm
<tims...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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tims...@gmail.com
> All photos that I posted are there Timmy>>>http://whokilledjfk.net/you_asked_for_it.htm
>
What, now that you decided to put them back, tomnln?
LOL! Tommy, do you think you will ever REALLY live this effort down?
Lots of people saw that you took the Reed photos down the minute you
realised they were helpful to Walt, I imagine.
Shame, tomnln, shame!
WTF were you thinking??
Concerned Regards,
tomnln
<tims...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Shame, tomnln, shame!
WTF were you thinking??
Concerned Regards,
If I were trying to "deceive", I wouldn't have put it back on the website.
The reason for the switch is that the 2nd photo I put on there is that it's
CLEARER.
Both photos are of the Same arrest.
Tell us which photo shows a rust colored shirt and, which photo shows
"gray" shirt ???
Walt
Whata liar..... You didn't realize that that the Mac Gammon photo
(page 153) and the Reed photo ( page 154) were different. You
thought you were being cute and would embarrass me with you flippant
"here ya wally, what would you do with out me?" When Gil posted his
remark about Hell has frozen over because you had actually posted
something that supported my observation, you realized that there was a
difference between the two photos and took down the reed photo and put
up the Mac Gammon photo. Everybody knows that you were being
deceitful....and now you're trying to lie your way out of the mess.
>
> The reason for the switch is that the 2nd photo I put on there is that it's
> CLEARER.
>
> Both photos are of the Same arrest.
>
> Tell us which photo shows a rust colored shirt and, which photo shows
> "gray" shirt ???
>
> SEE>>> http://whokilledjfk.net/you_asked_for_it.htm- Hide quoted text -
Walt
>
> > So ALL five "brownshirt" witnesses (including two NON-DPD people)
> > were liars....right Walt? Yes or no?
>
> which means he would also need to have transfered it from oneshirtto
> Winfrey photo showing damage to the sleeve which matches CE150. The
> color photo of Oswald`s arrest showing it to be the brownshirt.
>
> Walt`s retarded scenarios always depend heavily on what he thinks
> he can see in bad quality evidence photos (he thinks he can see better
> in these than people there in person could have seen), and they always
> require a scad of people lying, and a scad of evidence doctored. Such
> is the way of the kook.
>
> colored in the arrest photo on Tom`s website. It could be Oz`s white t-shirtseen, with the brownshirtpulled down out of sight with the
> cops around him (most likely, I think, he was just in a struggle in ashirtthat had the top three or four buttons missing). It could be the
> bright sunlight bleaching out the color in the photo. It could be that
> Oswald was purposely lightened for contrast, so he could be picked out
> from the surrounding dark clothing around him (what good is the photo
> if the primary person of interest can`t be discerned?). And as for the
> hole in CE150 not being seen in the clenched fist photo, of course the
> sight (despite Walt`s claim that it must).
The hole in the brown shirt in CE 150 is about 3 1/2 cuff widths from
the end of the sleeve, about 4 1/2 cuff widths of the sleeve are
visible in the Winfrey photo. If there had been a hole in the shirt
in the Winfrey photo it would be visible.
Bledsoe said the hole was
> at the elbow, but that doesn`t establish that as the exact location of
> the hole.
But the photo (CE 150) of the shirt does establish the exact location
of the hole ......
The Nara photo shows the square patch missing not really at
> the elbow, more on the forearm. It might not have been a hole which
> had worn through at the elbow (why would theshirthave worn through
> at that one place?) but was likely just caught on something and torn.
> It`s possible that there was jagged tear at that place, and that was
> cut out square to make it less noticeable.
>
> http://www.maryferrell.org/wiki/images/b/b7/Photo_naraevid_CE150-1.jpg
aeffects
ya quoting yourself again, ya Lone Nut Kookster?
tomnln
Wally World wrote;
Whata liar..... You didn't realize that that the Mac Gammon photo
(page 153) and the Reed photo ( page 154) were different. You
thought you were being cute and would embarrass me with you flippant
"here ya wally, what would you do with out me?" When Gil posted his
remark about Hell has frozen over because you had actually posted
something that supported my observation, you realized that there was a
difference between the two photos and took down the reed photo and put
up the Mac Gammon photo. Everybody knows that you were being
deceitful....and now you're trying to lie your way out of the mess.
ALL the photos from pages 153-154 are there.
Tell us WHICH one you see a GRAY shirt???
SEE>>> http://whokilledjfk.net/you_asked_for_it.htm
tims...@gmail.com
Hi tomnln,
Say, *The reason for the switch is that the 2nd photo I put on there
is that it's CLEARER*?!!
So you're admitting there WAS a switch now, eh tomnln?
Pretty hard not to, given the damning evidence, I guess.
Still, I find it amusing that the caption on your webpage STILL reads:
QUOTE ON:
Below is the cropped photo Wally World always refers to (page 153 of
TSFLHO)
QUOTE OFF
When actually what it ORIGINALLY said, before you amended it, tomnln,
was:
QUOTE ON:
Below is the cropped photo Wally World always refers to (page 154 of
TSFLHO)
QUOTE OFF
Isn't that so, tomnln, as you tried to palm off page 153 of TSFLHO as
being page 154? But that lie was too balatant, even for you, wasn't it
tomnln?
As Walt had SPECIFICALLY requested a scan of page 154 of TSFLHO, why
would you provide him a scan of page 153, tomnln?
People would simply have laughed at you, had you done that, tomnln.
Doesn't make sense, particularly as the page number, 154, is CLEARLY
visible in your original scan. No, not even tomnln would make a dumb
mistake like that, tomnln.
Actually, what you DID do, tomnln, was:
1) Provide a scan of page 154 of TSFLHO for Walt, as he'd requested.
2) Substitute it for a partial scan of page 153, with a caption
claiming it was actually page 154, once you'd realised your ORIGINAL
scan actually helped Walt's argument.
3) Added the original scan back in and amended the caption to the way
it reads now, when it became obvious that you'd switched images and
you realised it would look bad if you now deleted any more images.
LOL! Is there NO end to your duplicity, tomnln? You've been caught red
handed, me ol' tomnln mate.
tomnln
<tims...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Hi tomnln,
QUOTE ON:
QUOTE OFF
QUOTE ON:
QUOTE OFF
Regards,
Look at the top photo>>> http://whokilledjfk.net/you_asked_for_it.htm
So far, you & wally world see it as a GRAY shirt.
Like you believing that Oswald in Mexico City was...
5 ft. 3 inches tall
Blond Hair
199 pounds.