A LOOK AT WARREN COMMISSION EXHIBIT 826

David Von Pein

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Jun 9, 2010, 5:39:11 AM6/9/10

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Today I was reading through Warren Commission Exhibit No. 826 [linked
above], which is a 17-page FBI report on Lee Harvey Oswald that was
filed by New Orleans FBI agent Milton R. Kaack on October 31, 1963,
three weeks prior to JFK's assassination.

I found CE826 to be a fascinating report. It contains quite a bit of
detailed information on Lee Harvey Oswald--three weeks BEFORE he
murdered President Kennedy.

Commission Exhibit 826 is also interesting for another reason --
Oswald's penchant for telling lies. Oswald dishes up multiple lies via
CE826, within the multi-page August 10, 1963, report of New Orleans
FBI agent John L. Quigley, which begins on page 6 of Milton Kaack's 17-
page main report:

http://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh17/html/WH_Vol17_0392b.htm

Quigley interviewed Oswald at the New Orleans Police Department on
8/10/63, which was one day after Oswald had been arrested for
"disturbing the peace by creating a scene" on Canal Street while
passing out pamphlets for the Fair Play For Cuba Committee.

After his arrest, Oswald asked to talk to an FBI agent, and Quigley
was the man who was sent to talk with him.

Among the falsehoods that Oswald told Special Agent John Quigley of
the FBI on 8/10/63 was this one (with LHO obviously not wanting to
reveal the fact that he had met and married his wife in Russia):

"About four months ago he and his wife, MARINA OSWALD nee Prossa
[sic], whom he met and married in Fort Worth, moved to New Orleans."

And then there are the multiple lies that Oswald told Agent Quigley
concerning the fictitious "A.J. Hidell". Knowing, of course, that A.J.
Hidell only existed in Lee Oswald's imagination, the following
portions of Agent Quigley's August 1963 FBI report are really quite
humorous to read now. I can envision Oswald talking to himself on the
telephone, or sending himself a letter to ask himself if he would go
down to Canal Street to pass out some FPCC literature:

"Since receiving his membership card in the New Orleans chapter
of the [Fair Play For Cuba] committee he said that he had spoken with
[A.J.] HIDELL on the telephone on several occasions. On these
occasions, HIDELL would discuss general matters of mutual interest in
connection with committee business, and on other occasions he would
inform him of a scheduled meeting. He said he has never personally met
HIDELL, and he knows HIDELL did have a telephone, but it has now been
discontinued. He claimed that he could not recall what the number was.

"OSWALD said that the committee did not have any offices in New
Orleans, and whenever meetings were held they were held in residences
of various members. He maintained that he had attended only two
meetings of this committee, and at each of the meetings there were
about five different individuals.

"At each of these meetings the persons present were different.
He did not know the last names of any of these individuals and claimed
he was only introduced to them by first names. He maintained that he
could not recall any of the first names.

"From what he understands there are no regularly scheduled times
for meetings, and the only way he knows about them is when somebody
gives him a call and tells him there will be a meeting. At these
meetings he said the general conversation deals with Cuba and the
latest news on the internal affairs of Cuba.

"OSWALD admitted that on one occasion he held a committee
meeting at his home, but he declined to elaborate on how he got word
to the various members that it would be held.

"Last Wednesday, August 7, 1963, OSWALD said he received a note
through the mail from HIDELL. The note asked him if he had time would
he mind distributing some Fair Play literature in the downtown area of
New Orleans.

"He said HIDELL knew that he was not working and probably had
time. HIDELL also knew that he had considerable literature on the
committee which had been furnished to him by the national committee in
New York.

"Since he did not have anything to do, OSWALD said he decided he
would go down to Canal Street and distribute some literature. He
denied that he was being paid for his services, but that he was doing
it as a patriotic duty."

[End quotes from FBI report.]

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I also find it interesting to take note of the things Oswald told
Quigley on 8/10/63, versus the remarks he made during his WDSU-Radio
interview with Bill Stuckey just seven days later.

On August 10th, Oswald didn't mention anything to Quigley about being
the "Secretary" of the New Orleans FPCC chapter. But on August 17th,
he told Stuckey that he was, indeed, the secretary of the New Orleans
branch of the Committee.

Lee had obviously used those seven days to make up a better and more
elaborate lie concerning his one-man chapter of the Fair Play For Cuba
Committee prior to making his first of two appearances on WDSU-Radio
in New Orleans.

It's also rather interesting to take note of the fact that FBI agent
Quigley says in his August 1963 report that Oswald himself "exhibited"
to Quigley a Fair Play For Cuba Committee membership card that was
signed by "A.J. Hidell". And this is in addition to Oswald telling
Quigley that he (LHO) had actually talked with Hidell on the phone
several times.

The only reason I mention the above facts is because I believe that
I'm correct in saying that a few conspiracy theorists have speculated
that just perhaps Lee Harvey Oswald didn't really use the alias "A.J.
Hidell" at all in 1963.

But if Oswald HIMSELF was bringing up the name Hidell while talking to
an FBI agent in August of '63, and if Oswald HIMSELF had shown Agent
Quigley a card with the name Hidell on it, then such a theory about
Oswald having no idea who A.J. Hidell was would go up in smoke for all
time.

Or maybe some conspiracy theorists want to believe that John Quigley's
report that we find in CE826 is nothing but a great-big lie regarding
the name "Hidell".

But even if Quigley's report were a lie, there's still the undeniable
fact that all of the various documents that bear the name "Hidell" on
them were determined by handwriting analysts to be in Lee Harvey
Oswald's own handwriting.

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Gil Jesus

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Jun 9, 2010, 11:57:17 AM6/9/10

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On Jun 9, 5:39�am, David Von Pein <davevonp...@aol.com> wrote:
> http://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh17/html/WH_Vol17_0...

>
> Today I was reading through Warren Commission Exhibit No. 826 [linked
> above], which is a 17-page FBI report on Lee Harvey Oswald that was
> filed by New Orleans FBI agent Milton R. Kaack on October 31, 1963,
> three weeks prior to JFK's assassination.
>
> I found CE826 to be a fascinating report. It contains quite a bit of
> detailed information on Lee Harvey Oswald--three weeks BEFORE he
> murdered President Kennedy.

> ================================================

And why was that, David ? Why was a NEW ORLEANS FBI agent writing
a report on Oswald a month after he left ? And since Oswald's only
crime
up to that point was being arrested for disturbing the peace, why did
the FBI
get involved in such a misdemeanor offense ?
The FBI didn't get involved in the murder of Dallas cop Tippit three
weeks later,
but they had an interest in a sidewalk scuffle ?

ROFLMAO

David Von Pein

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Jun 9, 2010, 12:19:18 PM6/9/10

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Perhaps Gil Jesus missed this part of my previous post:

"After his arrest, Oswald asked to talk to an FBI agent, and
Quigley was the man who was sent to talk with him."

Oswald is the one who requested to see an FBI man when he was in the
New Orleans jail. The FBI didn't initiate the 8/10/63 interview --
Oswald did.

John Quigley testified as follows:

"Lt. Francis L. Martello, platoon commander at the first
district, New Orleans Police Station, called our office and advised
that he wished an agent to stop by there since there was a prisoner
who desired to speak with an agent."

Now, just exactly why Oswald wanted to talk to the Feds on August
10th, I haven't the foggiest. He was always complaining about the FBI
bothering him, but in this instance he REQUESTED to talk with the FBI.
And so the Feds obliged him.

Gil, naturally, will try to make something "conspiratorial" out of
Oswald having asked to speak with the FBI on this occasion in Aug.
'63. But I fail to see exactly where Gil will be able to take that
suspicion.

timstter

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Jun 9, 2010, 5:06:02 PM6/9/10

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Hi DVP,

Oswald was involved in a publicity campaign to build local notoriety
for himself and his FPCC chapter.

The logical explanation is that his call to the FBI was in furtherance
of this aim, though I guess we'll never know for sure as Oswald is
dead.

His plans were scuppered in part by the FBI, who helped expose him as
a defector and Marxist on New Orleans radio a week or so later.

Regards,

Tim Brennan
Sydney, Australia
*Newsgroup(s) Commentator*

mucher1

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Jun 9, 2010, 5:34:03 PM6/9/10

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Gil ?

Why are so many of your posts signed "ROFLMAO" or "ROTFLMFAO" ?

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David Von Pein

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Jun 9, 2010, 10:38:39 PM6/9/10

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>>> "Oswald was involved in a publicity campaign to build local notoriety for himself and his FPCC chapter. The logical explanation is that his call to the FBI was in furtherance of this aim, though I guess we'll never know for sure as Oswald is dead." <<<

I find it kind of strange that the FBI agent (John Quigley) never
asked Oswald this question:

"Why did you ask to see an FBI agent today?"

But, for some reason, Quigley never thought to ask Oswald that
question.

===================================

SAMUEL A. STERN -- "Did he tell you why he had requested the
interview?"

JOHN L. QUIGLEY -- "No; he did not, sir."

STERN -- "Did you form any impression as to why he had requested the
interview?"

QUIGLEY -- "Well, he was in police custody at the time, involved in a
disturbing of the peace charge, was becoming involved in a fight with
three Cubans on the street in the distribution of Fair Play for Cuba
literature. I felt that he was probably making a self-serving
statement in attempting to explain to me why he was distributing this
literature, and for no other reason, and when I got to questioning him
further then he felt that his purpose had been served and he wouldn't
say anything further."

STERN -- "Why do you think it might have been important for him to
explain to you what he was doing...to an FBI agent?"

QUIGLEY -- "Well, he is in custody--this I cannot answer you. You ask
me what I thought, this is what my feeling was on the matter. His
actual motive, I really wouldn't have any idea."

STERN -- "Is there any possibility that he was trying to give the New
Orleans police the idea that he was working for or with the FBI?"

QUIGLEY -- "Not to my knowledge, sir; no."

STERN -- "None of his conduct went in that direction?"

QUIGLEY -- "No; he certainly, to my knowledge, never advised the New
Orleans police of this. As a matter of fact, he, during the course of
the interview with Lieutenant Martello, made a fiat statement that he
would like to talk to an FBI agent, which is not an unusual situation.
Frequently persons who are in custody of local authorities would like
to talk to the FBI."

EARL WARREN -- "Is that so?"

QUIGLEY -- "That is true, sir. Many times people don't really
understand what the FBI Jurisdiction is. They feel we handle a
multitude of things which we don't. We are happy to talk with them, we
record the information, and if we can be of assistance, we are, and if
we cannot be of assistance we tell them we cannot and we explain to
them why we can't be of assistance."

WARREN -- "Did he ask you to be of any assistance to him?"

QUIGLEY -- "No, sir; he did not."

4 H 435 (WCT of John Lester Quigley):
http://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh4/html/WC_Vol4_0222a.htm

timstter

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Jun 10, 2010, 7:23:18 AM6/10/10

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The New Orleans office of the FBI had been told to keep tabs on
Oswald, Gil.

The case had been passed over after he left Dallas, making a quick and
hasty exit after the Walker shooting.

Had the FBI suspected him for THAT crime then obviously the
surveillance would have been a lot tighter.

As it was, he was openly advocating a Fair Play for Castro's Cuba and
was EXACTLY the sort of person the FBI was going to take an interest
in.

Why don't you read the evidence sometime, Gil?

Helpful Regards,

timstter

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Jun 13, 2010, 11:13:48 PM6/13/10

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> 4 H 435 (WCT of John Lester Quigley):http://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh4/html/WC_Vol4_022...

Hi DVP,

It appears that if the FBI is asked to attend then they send someone
along.

That would've been a good question for Quigley to ask, but Oswald
would probably have simply made up some lie in reply.

timstter

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Jun 18, 2010, 11:41:39 PM6/18/10

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BUMP! Yoo hoo, Verm! Why did you blow your mouth off about the FBI
monitoring Oswald in New Orleans when it was obvious you knew
ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about the matter?

Better watch out, Verm. The KGB won't be sending you your monthly
cheque @ this rate.

Jeff

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Jul 7, 2010, 4:20:05 PM7/7/10

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On Jun 9, 5:39 am, David Von Pein <davevonp...@aol.com> wrote:
> http://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh17/html/WH_Vol17_0...
>

> Today I was reading through Warren Commission Exhibit No. 826 [linked
> above], which is a 17-page FBI report on Lee Harvey Oswald that was
> filed by New Orleans FBI agent Milton R. Kaack on October 31, 1963,
> three weeks prior to JFK's assassination.
>

> ================================================

Reading the Warren Commission report is a complete waste of time
unless you want to learn about how the process of disinformation
works.

That's true of all of the so called evidence that was provided by the
government about the assassination. None of it is reliable.

Jeff Marzano

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Jason Burke

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Jul 7, 2010, 8:44:56 PM7/7/10

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Jeff,
There's a fellow I'd like you to meet. John Blubaugh. I'm sure you'll
have lots to talk about! And if you play bridge, even more!