Am I 100% Aquarian?
druebeall
DOB: 02/04/1962 @ 8:22 pm,
POB: Lynwood, ca. LOS ANGELES COUNTY
Thanks
The True Edmond Wollmann
There is a difference between sunsign astrology (which is newspaper
astrology and really not astrology). Astrologers like all
professionals do not generally do a complete workup on someone for
nothing on usenet just to prove something. It is real work.
I have archived information about real astrology.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.astrology/msg/56f0e75a6a0499d5?hl=en
HTH
Edmond H. Wollmann P.M.A.F.A.
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Cujo DeSockpuppet
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> On Oct 25, 1:11�am, druebeall <ruseriou...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Here is my info:
>>
>> DOB: 02/04/1962 @ 8:22 pm,
>> POB: Lynwood, ca. LOS ANGELES COUNTY
>>
>> Thanks
>
> There is a difference between sunsign astrology (which is newspaper
> astrology and really not astrology).
There's a difference between astrology and something that's useful.
> Astrologers like all professionals do not generally
consider Ed a professional.
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stupidity and the newsgroups?" - Ed vaporizes another Irony Meter.
Cujo deSockpuppet
>The True Edmond Wollmann <EHWol...@aol.com> wrote in news:5953ffa9-87fe-
>418b-9095-4...@m25g2000vbi.googlegroups.com:
>
>> On Oct 25, 1:11�am, druebeall <ruseriou...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Here is my info:
>>>
>>> DOB: 02/04/1962 @ 8:22 pm,
>>> POB: Lynwood, ca. LOS ANGELES COUNTY
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>
>> There is a difference between sunsign astrology (which is newspaper
>> astrology and really not astrology).
Tell him, Ed!
It's time I finally got it off my voluptuous implants. My REAL
name is Suju deCockpuppet. I am a Cajun Queen, deeply in love
with Ed. I put a sock on my cock and pretend it's one of Ed's.
He never came to meet me for dim sum. And, ohhh, I had to cum!
I cum all over my cock sock, again and again and again, just
thinking about Ed. Why else do you think I follow him everywhere
he goes? Wasn't it obvious to all of you, all along? Oh, Ed, I
love you! Some of us really do love straight men, you know. I
love you, Ed. Please say you love me too. Oh, please, say it.
Please just tell me someday I can suck your cock and that you'll
cum all over my face. That's all I want. That's all I've ever
wanted.
A B
Wow. I see what you mean. That's the Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus, Mars,
Jupiter and Saturn in Aquarius. Not quite "100% Aquarian", because Uranus,
Neptune and Pluto aren't in Aquarius, not to mention the Ascendant and
Midheaven. But pretty close. Closer than I've ever come across, in fact.
The only other chart I've seen that's at all like this is the 5th of May
2000, when nearly everything was in Taurus - and I don't actually know
anyone born then. I was just looking it up on account of something somebody
said.
Thanks very much for telling me! Do you mind if I copy this over to
alt.astrology.moderated? I'm sure they'd be interested.
A. B.
A B
"The True Edmond Wollmann" wrote on 25th October:
On Oct 25, 1:11 am, druebeall <ruseriou...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Here is my info:
>> DOB: 02/04/1962 @ 8:22 pm,
>> POB: Lynwood, ca. LOS ANGELES COUNTY
> There is a difference between sunsign astrology (which is newspaper
> astrology and really not astrology). Astrologers like all
> professionals do not generally do a complete workup on someone for
> nothing on usenet just to prove something. It is real work.
It's not sunsign astrology, actually. I can see why you might think that
from the cryptic posting, but it's not. Have a look at the chart - it's
amazing.
A. B.
Edmond H. Wollmann
Archetypes (astrological signs) are references to concepts and
consciousness, like genes they describe potentials, not dicta.
--
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� 2009 Altair Publications, SAN 299-5603
Astrological Consulting http://www.astroconsulting.com/
Artworks http://www.astroconsulting.com/personal/
A B
> Archetypes (astrological signs) are references to concepts and
> consciousness, like genes they describe potentials, not dicta.
Of course. But as far as any chart goes, that is a pretty striking one.
A. B.
E H Wollmann Professional Astrologer
> "Edmond H. Wollmann" <arcturian...@earthlink.net> wrote on 3rd November:
But you see, this shows how little people pay attention to the
delineation steps and analysis proceedures I have laid out and
demonstrated as coherent many times.
I have seen this chart before, there was an eclipse at this time.
What is more important than the fact there is a stellium in Aquarius
(7 planets) is the fact that if you follow my rules for INITIAL
delineation, this gives us 11 points in fixed signs (rigidity-the
energy motion of belief) only 1 mutable (flexibility and the fluidity
of thought) and 10 air (plus MC) 1 fire, 1 earth and 1 water. Hence,
although without logical analysis the mind wishes to attach
significance to the pile-up in Aquarius, it is really what the
IMBALANCE indicates that is more telling. Please see :
http://www.astroconsulting.com/FAQs/pyramids.htm
"The masculine Fire element represents the Trinity of Identity. Aries
(belief), Leo (emotion), Sagittarius (faith and trust apex/thought).
When positively balanced in representation reflects a healthy sense of
identity validity and effectual ego importance. When lacking or low (1
point or less) a mistrust of the self and its creative birthright.
There is difficulty entering into experiences with trust and
spontaneity. When overemphasized, zeal blinds the self to truths and
temperament reigns. Positive; inspired trust. Negative (or in Grand
Trine); a fear of being ignored and ego defensiveness.
Feminine Earth, the Trinity of Physicality. Taurus (emotion), Virgo
(thought), Capricorn (physical manifestation apex/belief). When
positively balanced a recognition that the Earth and materiality is a
spiritual experience through functional adequacy. It is not something
to be shunned and "overcome". It is the love of money above other
considerations that is the root of evil, not money. The physical world
is the material version of spirit. When it is low or lacking there is
the fear or belief that material things are base or dangerous. There
is difficulty with stability in day-to-day affairs. When excessive,
preoccupation with material things and strategy. Positive; functional
adequacy. Negative (or in Grand Trine); fear of losing control, and a
lack of imagination.
Masculine Air, the Trinity of Idea Interaction. Gemini (thought),
Libra (belief), and Aquarius (ideological validation apex/emotion).
When positively balanced there is a trust in the development, validity
and contribution of the identity's idea expression, interaction and
reflection socially, through ideological appreciation. All beings are
valid as one of the different ways that "All That Is" has of
expressing itself, because they are reflections of itself, as others
are reflections of ourselves. When low or lacking there is little
trust in the idea of others being of reflective service and therefore,
a lack of analytical discernment. There is an abbreviation of abstract
perspective abilities and difficulty seeing the self as others do.
When excessive there is a preoccupation with the self and its
perspectives. Positive; Social and intellectual appreciation and
vigor. Negative (or in Grand Trine); fears of being unappreciated and
overcompensatory rationalizations. The identity lives and dies by the
social mirror.
The feminine Water signs is the Trinity of Belief Momentum (E-motion).
Cancer (belief), Scorpio (emotion), and Pisces (empathic synchronous
accord apex/thought). When positively balanced there is a trust in the
sensibilities, instincts and intuition or empathic discernment. The
ability to walk in someone else's shoes helps dissolve the need to
dominate, breaks down the barriers between us and others, and
therefore between us and "All That Is". The barriers between us and
others is the same as the barrier between us and our higher self. When
low or lacking there is a difficulty or a lack of trust in the idea
that others are reflective in service. Things are taken extremely
personally. There is a fear of not being emotionally discerned, while
others emotions are not considered. When excessive the identity may
have difficulty with self definition through too much focus on forms
of sympathy. Positive; Intuitive access and appreciation of the
unconscious momentums. Negative (or in Grand Trine); A fear of being
taken advantage of and being hurt.
When there is a preponderance of the Cardinal quadruplicity of belief
Mode there is an exaggerated emphasis on action and leadership to
defend against the perceived threat of identity invalidity and status
concerns. When they are low or lacking there is a lack of recognition
that action reflects belief conviction.
When Fixed quadruplicity of emotion is emphasized there is a focus on
the consolidation of the identity and a rigid preoccupation with self
worth and creative prowess. When low or lacking there is an issue with
resourcefulness.
When Mutable quadruplicity of thought is the most predominant mode
there will be a focus on the diversity and dissemination of
information and perspectives. When excessive resources can be wasted
and scattered, and when lacking, critical thinking, discernment and
vision may suffer as well as an inability to see diverse points of
view."
Therefore, this person would be fixated on self worth and creative (in
this case innovative) prowess. Magnified by the ruler Uranus, being in
Leo Rx. Massive air count indicates ideological validation as the
method of that fixation.
The LACKING elements and modes can be read from the delineations I
created above as well, i.e., 1 Mutable (Pluto Rx): "when lacking,
critical thinking, discernment and vision may suffer as well as an
inability to see diverse points of view."
So we get a sense right off the bat that BALANCE is missing in the
primal belief system functioning and the only thing striking about the
chart is how much the identity relies on certain aspects of reality
and discounts others.
The square with Neptune would indicate that this developmental process
to become more aware and flexible might come through creative
expression (acting, the arts, music). The Pluto is also the only point
in Earth: "When it is low or lacking there is the fear or belief that
material things are base or dangerous." Hence, there may be an
unrealistic or less than pragmatic appraoch to resolving issues, and
the need for stability becomes apparent as there might be difficulty
in dealing with the mundane. So we begin to see what I have termed in
my book "the law of momentum flow" taking shape already.
The questions to the client would then revolve around; what and how
did the parental relationship contribute to this overwhelming focus on
the uniqueness or ideology of the identity being so focused and in
such high profile?
Only Neptune is in Water. Low water indicates as I state above:" When
low or lacking there is a difficulty or a lack of trust in the idea
that others are reflective in service." so there would be social needs
mostly to validate the individuality, not as a mirror to broaden and
encourage diversity and allowance.
This is brief but hopefully helpful and more realistic way to begin
analysing charts. Because life is the experiencing of polarity and
opposites, it is BALANCE and integration of all that is that is
important, not being 100% anything, which can indicate psychological
fears and overcompensation rather than balance, because a chart has
many factors and when they work together with equal validity all
around it is easier to be positive and flowing and reflects less
"issue" with any particular archetype which are all valid, equal and
all real.
Thanks.
"Any man who reads too much and uses his own brain too little falls
into lazy habits of thinking."
Albert Einstein
Edmond H. Wollmann P.M.A.F.A.
© 2009 Altair Publications, SAN 299-5603
Astrological Consulting http://www.astroconsulting.com/
Artworks http://www.astroconsulting.com/personal/
The SUN http://www.edmondwollmann.com/
Cujo DeSockpuppet
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> On Nov 4, 10:12�am, "A B" <a@a> wrote:
>> "Edmond H. Wollmann" <arcturian...@earthlink.net> wrote on 3rd November:
>>
>> > Archetypes (astrological signs) are references to concepts and
>> > consciousness, like genes they describe potentials, not dicta.
>>
>> Of course. �But as far as any chart goes, that is a pretty striking one
> .
>> A. B.
>
> But you see, this shows how little people pay attention to
a fucking kook like Edmo.
--
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"It's so sad that the mentally ill were turned out by Reagan, and end
up on usenet harassing people as a form of therapy." - Edmo outs himself.
Silveen
"Bob Officer" <bobof...@127.0.0.7> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:lcg9f5t521t8u5g8n...@4ax.com...
>
>
> --
> Ak'toh'di
Hello Bob Officer:
your statements remind me of (this really happened only a few days ago)
the "lady" who told the doctors (including the professor) at a hospital here
what they needed to do to "properly" treat the old lady who was the
patient and who had to be there _because_ she had not been taken care
of (as doctor-instructed) by that woman.
She knew as much about medicine as you seem to know about
astrology. She also made a raving fool of herself and was eventually
actually kicked out of the place and is told not to come back.
Question again is: WHY are you frequenting this group here, if you
do not want to _learn_ ? There is really so much to learn, it could be
a wonderful, absolutely time filling hobby (as you _seem_ to be bored
with the rest of your life). You would also find out that most astrologers
are true idealists who spent much time (many years) learning their trade
and hesitate charging for their time and knowledge.
Like in ALL professions we can find the so called "black sheep";
just look at the worst recent stories of brokers, bankers, polititans, etc.,
etc.
so there is no need to say that ALL of one kind of profession, of
race, of culture . . . . are all "black sheep". - - o. k. ?!?!
But you yourself can learn by reading, really studying the subject in
question.
Also, we learn easier, if we take the given instructions and, if we do
not agree, or do not understand the given information, we come up
with the appropriate questions.
The nice thing now a days is that we can find just about every book,
every lecture, every help through the internet - when I started, there
was no such convenience available and - I lived in Virginia then -
there were no books on the subject of astrology, but many forms of
bibles and related information. This was one of the reasons I just
had to go West, ended up in California, where I was able to get all
necessary information to do my studies.
Ask and people of knowledge will give you answers. If you are
interested, but do not really want to admit to it, go to a more
professional group, a moderated one, this would keep all the OT posts
out and you can concentrate on the subject of your interest - astrology ? -
So much for now.
You take care and have a nice weekend.
Be well,
IRH/Silveen
Edmond H. Wollmann
This person has an extreme need to "distance" themselves and be
different for the sake of being different. But the imbalance is clear.
Their is an urgent need or momentum karmically to get off of this
fixation on uniqueness and apply the self spontaneously and to not need
to analyse everything "objectively".
--
Edmond H. Wollmann P.M.A.F.A.
� 2009 Altair Publications, SAN 299-5603
Astrological Consulting http://www.astroconsulting.com/
Artworks http://www.astroconsulting.com/personal/
Cujo DeSockpuppet
news:4AF60F...@earthlink.net:
> E H Wollmann Unprofessional Asshole wrote:
Following up to yourself is kooksign, kook.
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award. July 2005 Hammer of Thor. Winning Trainer - Barbara Woodhouse
Memorial Dog Whistle - 12/2005 & 4/2008. COOSN-266-06-01895.
"... George Clooney, Cher and Jimmy Stewart--Three well known
politicians who were assassinated." - Edmo really loses it.
A B
"Cujo DeSockpuppet" <cu...@petitmorte.net> wrote in message
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> "Edmond H. Wollmann" <arctur...@earthlink.net> wrote in
> news:4AF60F...@earthlink.net:
>
>> E H Wollmann Unprofessional Asshole wrote:
>
> Following up to yourself is kooksign, kook.
So?
Edmond H. Wollmann
Since no astrologers post here to discuss, I am the only one worth
replying to.
Cujo DeSockpuppet
> A B wrote:
>>
>> "Cujo DeSockpuppet" <cu...@petitmorte.net> wrote in message
>> news:hd59cg$hfp$4...@blackhelicopter.databasix.com...
>> > "Edmond H. Wollmann" <arctur...@earthlink.net> wrote in
>> > news:4AF60F...@earthlink.net:
>> >
>> >> E H Wollmann Unprofessional Asshole wrote:
>> >
>> > Following up to yourself is kooksign, kook.
>>
>> So?
>
> Since no astrologers post here to discuss, I am the only one worth
> replying to.
It's the only way you'll ever win half your arguments, kook.
--
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alt.paranormal, alt.astrology and alt.astrology.metapsych. Supreme Holy
Overlord of alt.fucknozzles. Winner of the 8/2000, 2/2003 & 4/2007 HL&S
award. July 2005 Hammer of Thor. Winning Trainer - Barbara Woodhouse
Memorial Dog Whistle - 12/2005 & 4/2008. COOSN-266-06-01895.
"You're not that stupid. I'm a Savant's idiot kook, to get down to
your level of kook adoration......" - Twonky, adding to his legend.
Anonymous Remailer (austria)
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"Edmond H. Wollmann" <arctur...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> A B wrote:
> >
> > "Cujo DeSockpuppet" <cu...@petitmorte.net> wrote in message
> > news:hd59cg$hfp$4...@blackhelicopter.databasix.com...
> > > "Edmond H. Wollmann" <arctur...@earthlink.net> wrote in
> > > news:4AF60F...@earthlink.net:
> > >
> > >> E H Wollmann Unprofessional Asshole wrote:
> > >
> > > Following up to yourself is kooksign, kook.
> >
> > So?
>
> Since no astrologers post here to discuss, I am the only one worth
> replying to.
>
Delusions of grandeur noted.
chris
> On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 08:19:35 +0100 (CET), "Anonymous Remailer
>
>
>
> (austria)" <mixmas...@remailer.privacy.at> wrote:
> >In article <4AFB9268.4...@earthlink.net>> >> > "Cujo DeSockpuppet" <c...@petitmorte.net> wrote in message
> >> >news:hd59cg$hfp$4...@blackhelicopter.databasix.com...
> >> > > "Edmond H. Wollmann" <arcturian...@earthlink.net> wrote in
> >> > >news:4AF60F...@earthlink.net:
>
> >> > >> E H Wollmann Unprofessional Asshole wrote:
>
> >> > > Following up to yourself is kooksign, kook.
>
> >> > So?
>
> >> Since no astrologers post here to discuss, I am the only one worth
> >> replying to.
>
> >Delusions of grandeur noted.
>
> YM 'adequacy' kind sir (or madam).
Now, now. ITYM "entertainment
>
> >http://www.smbtech.com/ed
>
> Indeed!
Yes siree! I notice Mr Sillyman has yet to provide a valid return
address for his failed DMCA notice at http://www.smbtech.com/ed/Failed_PO_Box.html
I can't think why.
Newmum Landhold
druebeall
> "druebeall" <ruseriou...@gmail.com> wrote on 25th October:
Sure go ahead. Thanks for responding! !
Drue Denise Beall
Edmond H. Wollmann
>Sent: Jan 29, 2010 1:01 AM
>To: "Edmond H. Wollmann" <arctur...@earthlink.net>
>Subject: Re: Am I 100% Aquarian?
>
>On Nov 7 2009, 4:21 pm, "Edmond H. Wollmann"
>> > > "Edmond H. Wollmann" <arcturian...@earthlink.net> wrote on 3rd November:
>> > > > Archetypes (astrological signs) are references to concepts and
>> > > > consciousness, like genes they describe potentials, not dicta.
>>
>> > > Of course. But as far as any chart goes, that is a pretty striking one.
>> > > A. B.
>> > But you see, this shows how little people pay attention to the
>> > delineation steps and analysis proceedures I have laid out and
>> > demonstrated as coherent many times.
>> > I have seen this chart before, there was an eclipse at this time.
>> > What is more important than the fact there is a stellium inAquarius
>> > (7 planets) is the fact that if you follow my rules for INITIAL
>> > delineation, this gives us 11 points in fixed signs (rigidity-the
>> > energy motion of belief) only 1 mutable (flexibility and the fluidity
>> > of thought) and 10 air (plus MC) 1 fire, 1 earth and 1 water. Hence,
>> > although without logical analysis the mind wishes to attach
>> > IMBALANCE indicates that is more telling. Please see :
>> >http://www.astroconsulting.com/FAQs/pyramids.htm
>>
>> > "The masculine Fire element represents the Trinity of Identity. Aries
>> > (belief), Leo (emotion), Sagittarius (faith and trust apex/thought).
>> > When positively balanced in representation reflects a healthy sense of
>> > identity validity and effectual ego importance. When lacking or low (1
>> > point or less) a mistrust of the self and its creative birthright.
>> > There is difficulty entering into experiences with trust and
>> > spontaneity. When overemphasized, zeal blinds the self to truths and
>> > temperament reigns. Positive; inspired trust. Negative (or in Grand
>> > Trine); a fear of being ignored and ego defensiveness.
>>
>> > Feminine Earth, the Trinity of Physicality. Taurus (emotion), Virgo
>> > (thought), Capricorn (physical manifestation apex/belief). When
>> > positively balanced a recognition that the Earth and materiality is a
>> > spiritual experience through functional adequacy. It is not something
>> > to be shunned and "overcome". It is the love of money above other
>> > considerations that is the root of evil, not money. The physical world
>> > is the material version of spirit. When it is low or lacking there is
>> > the fear or belief that material things are base or dangerous. There
>> > is difficulty with stability in day-to-day affairs. When excessive,
>> > preoccupation with material things and strategy. Positive; functional
>> > adequacy. Negative (or in Grand Trine); fear of losing control, and a
>> > lack of imagination.
>>
>> > Masculine Air, the Trinity of Idea Interaction. Gemini (thought),
>> > fears and overcompensation rather than balance, because a chart has
>> > many factors and when they work together with equal validity all
>> > around it is easier to be positive and flowing and reflects less
>> > "issue" with any particular archetype which are all valid, equal and
>> > all real.
>>
>> This person has an extreme need to "distance" themselves and be
>> different for the sake of being different. But the imbalance is clear.
>> Their is an urgent need or momentum karmically to get off of this
>> fixation on uniqueness and apply the self spontaneously and to not need
>> to analyse everything "objectively".
>To Edmond Wollmann,
>It has been quite some time since I have checked out this question and
>am quite surprised at some of the responses, but mainly just yours.
>You have missed the mark I am very happy to say. But thanks for your
>responses.
>Drue
There was no "mark" to hit. You asked a fallacious question; "Am I 100%
Aquarius" to which I replied:
"Archetypes (astrological signs) are references to concepts and
consciousness, like genes they describe potentials, not dicta."
Which was right on the mark. There is no such thing and Aquarius simply
seeks to evidence "uniqueness" and with the Virgo ascendant "detached"
sort of "above it all" perspective. Now, I did not analyse the chart,
which would involve a lot of time and effort to find a "mark" to hit, so
your "happiness" (ego) that I missed some mark is wildly exaggerated and
quite revealing in itself. I do not p;articipate in "tests" from people
who know nothing about astrology.
I then used the chart to hopefully help others understand how to use
Element imbalance (which your chart has) and show that an over-emphasis
on a certain, sign, element, or mode reflects a psychological defense
mechanism to overcompensate for the disconnection to the elements etc.
"missing".
Anyone with real psychological awareness and astrological knowledge can
see by this answer, that I indeed was quite correct in what little
fragment of the chart I did delineate, because you are quite sure that
your individuality and uniqueness is so great that I could not possibly
see it for what it is. Even though I have done this with success and
accuracy for 30 years with all sorts of complex individuals.
But, this would only be a starting point, the parents would be crucial
in this case, because of the Moon and Venus, and Saturn/Mars positions.
Please don't send me unsolicited emails to "make sure you tell me how I
missed the mark happily" I only allow this once before complaints are
sent. I seek to be of service and offer my time to those who truly
believe it helps them or their service, if you don't prefer my work,
then don't read it. I cannot force you. Nor will I try.
Thanks
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druebeall
> Drue Beall wrote (25 Oct 2009):
>
> > Here is my info:
>
> > DOB: 02/04/1962 @ 8:22 pm,
> > POB: Lynwood, ca. LOS ANGELES COUNTY
>
>
> I have seen in your public google profile that you have also very
> recently posted your birth data to other groups. Just in case you are
> not aware of it, there has been some discussion around your birth
> chart at alt.astrology.moderated:
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.astrology.moderated/browse_thread/...
>
> It does not center so much around your chart - in many respects the
> discussion was more between astrologers about how a chart should be
> read (but at the example of your chart), but maybe you can still find
> something helpful or interesting there. One poster, "Pedantus" noticed
> that your birth chart is very similar to the one of country singer and
> writer Clint Black:
>
> http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Black,_Clint
> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clint_Black
> http://www.clintblack.com/
>
> As far as I remember, almost all astrologers who commented, suspected
> also that you might do something artistic (music, etc.), not
> necessarily as a profession, but would be in some way connected to
> art, or that doing something artistic would somehow give you more
> balance or stability in life if you did it (or maybe the latter part
> is more my interpretation ;).
>
> Actually, you may prefer to read your chart yourself. First steps are
> not so difficult. You could start atwww.astro.com( and read what all
> the planets, signs and aspects very roughly mean,
>
> http://www.astro.com/astrology/in_intro_e.htm
>
> and apply it to your birth chart,
>
> http://lh6.ggpht.com/_M_Yn4lKv3Dw/Sz2q88EBsCI/AAAAAAAAAXc/WeOiTJXa0Tc...
>
> What astrologers do is often just that, but based on more reading and
> direct experience of chart vs. person.
>
> There is also a public forum at astro.com with a section for posting
> charts for a free reading. Likely more "civilized" than usenet, but
> maybe also less dedicated in a way. Matter of taste, you can always
> take a look at previous answers to posts there (You need to register
> to post, but reading is freely possible). And astro.com offers also
> computer generated analyses of charts (the ones that cost are probably
> as good as you can get in this world today, but nothing is perfect and
> without bias, even there, again matter of taste in the end, they have
> sample reports to get an idea).
>
> I hope you don't mind, I have also been so free to google a few
> minutes for your name and e-mail. Let me just say this: Until a few
> years ago there was an astrologer who posted in usenet and even
> moderated one of the groups for some time, who reminded me at least
> according to these public bits of you: Female, born in 1961 in
> California, has been a strong supporter of Bush Jr. (at least until a
> few years ago), and as far as I could tell also relatively religious
> (Christian). As far as I could tell, she did not feel at all that
> doing astrology was somewhat at odds with the rest of her life. And
> good luck and best wishes with your husband and family - if one thing
> is clear to an astrologer from your chart, it is that because you have
> *so many* planets at one place, things that happen will happen more
> focussed in your life than in the lives of most other people. It is
> also so that there is currently (in the world, not your personal
> chart) what astrologers call a "hard aspect", a square in this case,
> between Saturn and Pluto. The last time there was a hard aspect
> between these two planets (an opposition), was around 2001/02 (i.e.
> 9/11, start of the war in Afghanistan, etc.). And also the northern
> lunar node was in Capricorn both times. One of the advantages of
> astrology is that it can tell you how long things last. The mentioned
> square, for example, will carry on into summer 2010, if I remember
> correctly.
>
> I hope this can be of some help and is not considered too intrusive.
> (I am a Swiss physicist, see links below.)
>
> )o+
>
> --http://www.google.com/profiles/alain.stalder.chhttp://www.exactphilosophy.net/
thanks jo+ I appreciate your pointing me in the right direction and
when I am able I will definately check it out. Not considered
intrusive at all. Thanks again : ) Drue
Edmond H. Wollmann
>
> > DOB: 02/04/1962 @ 8:22 pm,
> > POB: Lynwood, ca. LOS ANGELES COUNTY
>
I believe it is irresponsible astrology to say “it looks like so and
so’s chart” or it has the energy of this famous person or what have
you. This person, like all persons is unique and has their own
psychological developmental pattern and incorporation of the
astrological chart that they have. Their chart reflects the
arrangement of archetypes inherent as probabilities in their
development, and the probable psychological issues they will confront
or manifest within the life they have chosen to express. They cannot
be like so and so, or their chart repeat energy by another person who
has some similar placements because they are unique as I said.
Now, using my book and the way I approach interpreting a chart you can
see that this chart (I posted it with my scribbles on it here:
http://www.astroconsulting.com/FAQs/chart_display.htm ) has 1 Fire, 2
Earth, 10 Air points and 1 Water. The mode count is more revealing; 0
Cardinal, 11 Fixed, and 2 Mutable. Now when I prepare for clients this
method allows me to get the gist of the overall thrust of the persona,
in this case it is like a an Aquarian (High Fixed Air) and is least
like an Aries (Cardinal Fire) a Cancer (Cardinal Water) and followed
by Cardinal Earth or Capricorn.
Let’s look at the interps for these concepts:
Most of us who study astrology know that Aquarians are some of the
biggest procrastinators. Here we have ZERO Cardinal points: When there
is a preponderance of the Cardinal quadruplicity of belief Mode there
is an exaggerated emphasis on action and leadership to defend against
the perceived threat of identity invalidity and status concerns. When
they are low or lacking there is a lack of recognition that action
reflects belief conviction.” In This case there would be profound
disbelief in taking action or that activity and application of the
self would be valued.
High Air: When excessive there is a preoccupation with the self and
its perspectives. (this would reinforce the procrastination)
Low Fire: When lacking or low (1 point or less) a mistrust of the self
and its creative birthright.
Low Earth: When it is low or lacking there is the fear or belief that
material things are base or dangerous.
Low Water: When low or lacking there is a difficulty or a lack of
trust in the idea that others are reflective in service. Things are
taken extremely personally. There is a fear of not being emotionally
discerned, while others emotions are not considered.
Now, let’s look at the hemisphere emphasis: 7 points west (the army is
gathered to protect the 7th) indicates a need to be socially accepted
above being ego important or self-defined. (this corroborates our
initial finding of 0 Cardinal, no action for self, dependent upon the
acceptance of others). So, social receptivity would be more important
than self development. The planets on the Eastern horizon are all Rx
indicating a reserved or reticence about the self and ego. 2 points
above the horizon shows less objectivity and more below the horizon
shows a need to reflect internally before outward expression.
The Sun Moon blend states: “ Sun in Aquarius, Moon Aquarius The
objectified creator. The scientist. Innovation is the key to personal
fulfillment, as well as the sharing of these innovations socially.
Now, we find them in the middle of the other planets in 5, creative
extension. So this person’s focus would be on the innovative with
regard to self expression and was strongly influenced by the parental
structure. The parents did not allow this person (in their mind) to
express this avant garde need, although the mother would have had a
profound effect on this issue and either was preoccupied with it as a
form of her own self worth (moon in 5 conjunct the nodal axis, Jupiter
ruling 4) or perhaps was in fear of it (south node and reinforced by
Uranus in 12 disposing of all the Aquarian planets) or, the identity
of which we speak is obsessed with this individuality idea because of
the lack of knowledge about the parents (adopted or in some other way
abandoned by parents). Either way the Uranus at 29 degrees and Rx
indicates that this issue has been ignored for far too long and must
be resolved (urgency is shown by the 29th degree). Mercury also rules
the 10th and ascendant and is Rx, more introspection about the idea we
are discussing and it diposes of the Pluto also in 12, the only
practical application or the Aquarian issue (introspection and self
undoing).
NOW, we might come to the aspect pattern by introducing Neptune’s
square to the Aquarius planets, which would indicate a sacrifice or
dissolution “spiritually” to others (ruling 7) which may be an escape
mechanism from ever clearly defining the self in more pragmatic terms.
The square indicates a worth/love or extension developmental need,
meaning that this person must cultivate or apply the spiritual aspect
or resources to unraveling this conflict about how “unique” they are;
hence this could TRANSLATE into a career or need to express the self
through the arts and perhaps music, or some “new age” application of
the “scientific” needs to those topics. But never-the-less, this
person still has an unbalanced and over compensatory reliance upon the
structured and “scientific” or innovative application of the self at
the cost of the natural, spontaneous (Fire) and pragmatic and
practical applications of the self, and because of their being caught
up in this Air ideology have sacrificed and do not fully participate
in the elements and modes lacking in the chart, especially, activity,
action and self-directed expression (Leo Uranus Rx, 0 Cardinal). The
objectivity may paralyze the creative needs of the 5th, and giving
love may be the casualty.
There are no oppositions in the chart, so awareness of this issue
itself may be difficult to bring to the surface for the client and
indicates this person is bound up by their own perspectives.
Now this is a VERY abbreviated example of the process which the real
astrologer must learn to build if they are ever to serve a client
realistically, and all this “your chart is like this painting and that
persons chart and this idea and that”, really does not serve the
client or the astrologer well and is frankly a cop-out for not having
the skills necessary to develop a true understanding (Water) of the
person who’s chart we seek to comprehend.
Thank you for allowing me to share my ideas with you.
It is always the same: once you are liberated, you are forced to ask
who you are.
Jean Baudrillard
noauth
"Edmond H. Wollmann" <arctur...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> Now, using my book
Your self-published POS is hardly a book, kook.
Anonymous
"Edmond H. Wollmann" <arctur...@earthlink.net> wrote:
CFA
>I believe supplanting "pictures that look like charts" is a measure of
>incompetance.
Another sterling example of why aa is a dead group, and why you've had
trouble posting in aamod.
It's surprising the post wasn't rejected.
Ken
--
cfa at alt dot net
The True Edmond Wollmann
I see, in your world I should be punished for having opinions, that's
why I believe you are an idiot, you don't really think things through
before you denigrate someone.
What I stated is my professional opinion, get over it.
Edmond H. Wollmann P.M.A.F.A.
© 2010 Altair Publications, SAN 299-5603
Astrological Consulting http://www.astroconsulting.com/
That Wollmann Asshole
news:583c03c0-56e8-4696...@m35g2000prh.googlegroups.com:
> On Feb 7, 8:20�pm, CFA wrote:
>> Edmond H. Wollmann wrote:
>> >I believe supplanting "pictures that look like charts" is a measure
>> >of incompetance.
>>
>> Another sterling example of why aa is a dead group, and why you've
>> had trouble posting in aamod.
>>
>> It's surprising the post wasn't rejected.
>
> I see, in your world I should be punished for having opinions,
No, I'll settle for laughing at you, Pantyhead.
> that's why I believe you are an idiot,
It's gonna really bother him given some of your other kooky beliefs.
> you don't really think things through before you denigrate someone.
It's not necessary, you do a great job all by yourself, kook.
> What I stated is my professional opinion, get over it.
You sure don't know how to state an opinion professionally, asshole.
--
Cujo - The Official Overseer of Kooks and Trolls in dfw.*,
alt.paranormal, alt.astrology and alt.astrology.metapsych. Supreme Holy
Overlord of alt.fucknozzles. Winner of the 8/2000, 2/2003 & 4/2007 HL&S
award. July 2005 Hammer of Thor. Winning Trainer - Barbara Woodhouse
Memorial Dog Whistle - 12/2005 & 4/2008. COOSN-266-06-01895.
"Nutrinos (sic) are one of the key understanding to this idea. This is
how most aliens traverse the multiverse at this time." - Edmo on a full
delusional ride in his own created reality.
Silveen
<CFA> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:3gn2fd....@news.alt.net...
> The True Edmond Wollmann wrote:
>>On Feb 7, 8:20 pm, CFA wrote:
>>> Edmond H. Wollmann wrote:
>>> >I believe supplanting "pictures that look like charts" is a measure of
>>> >incompetance.
>>>
>>> Another sterling example of why aa is a dead group, and why you've had
>>> trouble posting in aamod.
>>>
>>> It's surprising the post wasn't rejected.
>>
>>I see, in your world I should be punished for having opinions, that's
>>why I believe you are an idiot, you don't really think things through
>>before you denigrate someone.
>
>
> 2) You could have just presented your own approach without insulting
> anyone. But you've always been petty that way.
>
> 3) You have a hard-on for Roger and can't resist opportunities to
> criticize.
>
>>What I stated is my professional opinion, get over it.
>
>
> Ken
> --
> cfa at alt dot net
Ken,
why are you acting this way when you post at a.a. ?
why don�t you stay over at AAmod, go back to being,
what I would see as more "normal".
BTW: Compare your charts and you can see where the
apparent problem lies. -
Take care and
be well,
IRH/Silveen
The True Edmond Wollmann
> The True Edmond Wollmann wrote:
>
> >> Edmond H. Wollmann wrote:
> >> >I believe supplanting "pictures that look like charts" is a measure of
> >> >incompetance.
>
> >> Another sterling example of why aa is a dead group, and why you've had
> >> trouble posting in aamod.
>
> >> It's surprising the post wasn't rejected.
>
> >I see, in your world I should be punished for having opinions, that's
> >why I believe you are an idiot, you don't really think things through
> >before you denigrate someone.
>
>
> 2) You could have just presented your own approach without insulting
> anyone. But you've always been petty that way.
>
> 3) You have a hard-on for Roger and can't resist opportunities to
> criticize.
>
>
>
> --
> cfa at alt dot net
I guess you'll just have to ignore me.
The True Edmond Wollmann
> <CFA> schrieb im Newsbeitragnews:3gn2fd....@news.alt.net...
>
> - Show quoted text -
He doesn't like my bluntness I gather.
A B
> Silveen wrote:
>
>>Ken,
>>why are you acting this way when you post at a.a. ?
>>why don�t you stay over at AAmod, go back to being,
>>what I would see as more "normal".
>
Fact is, you're sounding very much like he did. I'm sure you wouldn't want
that.
A. B.
Edmond H. Wollmann
> Silveen wrote:
> >Ken,
> >why are you acting this way when you post at a.a. ?
> >why don´t you stay over at AAmod, go back to being,
> >what I would see as more "normal".
He is, his normal self is a vindictive power hungry Scorpio who thinks
he knows more than he does.
> So Ed's bullying is okay with you? Got it.
So when I state my opinion forcefully and with conviction this makes
me a bully?
Cujo DeSockpuppet
Can't you type a coherent sentence in English?
Here's some commas for your next post, use them next time.
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--
Cujo - The Official Overseer of Kooks and Trolls in dfw.*,
alt.paranormal, alt.astrology and alt.astrology.metapsych. Supreme Holy
Overlord of alt.fucknozzles. Winner of the 8/2000, 2/2003 & 4/2007 HL&S
award. July 2005 Hammer of Thor. Winning Trainer - Barbara Woodhouse
Memorial Dog Whistle - 12/2005 & 4/2008. COOSN-266-06-01895.
"Yes, I am wise, and its wisdom born from my superior brain!" - Edmond
"What Ego Problem?" Wollmann further deludes himself.
Cujo DeSockpuppet
4e32-4378-854...@x1g2000prb.googlegroups.com:
> On Feb 9, 10:43�am, CFA wrote:
>> Silveen wrote:
>> >Ken,
>> >why are you acting this way when you post at a.a. ?
>> >why don�t you stay over at AAmod, go back to being,
>> >what I would see as more "normal".
>
> He is, his normal self is a vindictive power hungry Scorpio who thinks
> he knows more than he does.
Whine some more, Pantyhead. Ken has you owned, little man.
>> So Ed's bullying is okay with you? Got it.
>
> So when I state my opinion forcefully and with conviction this makes
> me a bully?
No, it makes you an asshole, you asshole.
--
Cujo - The Official Overseer of Kooks and Trolls in dfw.*,
alt.paranormal, alt.astrology and alt.astrology.metapsych. Supreme Holy
Overlord of alt.fucknozzles. Winner of the 8/2000, 2/2003 & 4/2007 HL&S
award. July 2005 Hammer of Thor. Winning Trainer - Barbara Woodhouse
Memorial Dog Whistle - 12/2005 & 4/2008. COOSN-266-06-01895.
"I have always thought that the reason Dinosaurs were so big is because
of the dramatic difference in gravitational strength between that time
period and now" - Edmo the paleontologist.
Cujo DeSockpuppet
> On Feb 8, 5:14�pm, CFA wrote:
>> The True Edmond Wollmann wrote:
>>
>> >On Feb 7, 8:20�pm, CFA wrote:
>> >> Edmond H. Wollmann wrote:
>> >> >I believe supplanting "pictures that look like charts" is a
>> >> >measure o
> f
>> >> >incompetance.
>>
>> >> Another sterling example of why aa is a dead group, and why you've
>> >> had trouble posting in aamod.
>>
>> >> It's surprising the post wasn't rejected.
>>
>> >I see, in your world I should be punished for having opinions,
>> >that's why I believe you are an idiot, you don't really think things
>> >through before you denigrate someone.
>>
>> 1) You don't know it's incompetent. You 'believe' it is.
>>
>> 2) You could have just presented your own approach without insulting
>> anyone. But you've always been petty that way.
>>
>> 3) You have a hard-on for Roger and can't resist opportunities to
>> criticize.
>>
>> >What I stated is my professional opinion, get over it.
>>
>> We just got the bonus plan, right?
>
> I guess you'll just have to ignore me.
It's more fun to watch you froth, dipshit.
--
Cujo - The Official Overseer of Kooks and Trolls in dfw.*,
alt.paranormal, alt.astrology and alt.astrology.metapsych. Supreme Holy
Overlord of alt.fucknozzles. Winner of the 8/2000, 2/2003 & 4/2007 HL&S
award. July 2005 Hammer of Thor. Winning Trainer - Barbara Woodhouse
Memorial Dog Whistle - 12/2005 & 4/2008. COOSN-266-06-01895.
"Its so comforting knowing you will never have a man." - Ed whispering
sweet nothings to his blowup doll.
druebeall
> On Tue, 9 Feb 2010 14:54:24 -0800 (PST), in alt.astrology, "Edmond H.
>
> Wollmann" <arcturian...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >On Feb 9, 10:43 am, CFA wrote:
> >> Silveen wrote:
> >> >Ken,
> >> >why are you acting this way when you post at a.a. ?
> >> >why don´t you stay over at AAmod, go back to being,
> >> >what I would see as more "normal".
>
> >He is, his normal self is a vindictive power hungry Scorpio who thinks
> >he knows more than he does.
>
> >> So Ed's bullying is okay with you? Got it.
>
> >So when I state my opinion forcefully and with conviction this makes
> >me a bully?
>
> come face to face.
>
> You are a rather ignorant bully.
>
> It is common knowledge bully are just really a coward.
>
> --
> Ak'toh'di
I really don't understand what all this back and forth nonsense is all
about, but what it doesn't have anything to do with is my original
posting.
Thanks,
Drue (I'm a girl BTW) Beall = )
druebeall
wrote:
> >From: druebeall <ruseriou...@gmail.com>
> >Sent: Jan 29, 2010 1:01 AM
Dear Edmond,
I did not send you unsolicited emails. I am only replying. I never
said I did not appreciate your service because I do. I was sort of
"turned Off" to really reading much due to all the nonsense (not you,
but others). I think that perhaps we got off on the wrong foot with
one another?!? I honestly want to understand my chart. I believe that
in understanding this aspect (the very first of my 48 years) I will
finally understand who I am and no longer feel quite odd, but rather
finally see that it is "okay" to just be me. Does that make any sense?
Anyway, it is late and I am going to retire now. I hope to hear from
you soon and please accept my apology for any irritation I might have
been.
Drue
The True Edmond Wollmann
> Dear Edmond,
> I did not send you unsolicited emails.
Hopefully you understand my end; For at least 12 years I have been
harassed, stalked, sued, spammed, my identity used to harass people,
false complaints sent to my providers, my email addresses used to spam
and portray me as a criminal, my life basically invaded and my privacy
violated--all because I stand up for what I believe in and cannot be
forced to do anything and am not convinced or moved by anything but
logic and truth. I am therefore very leary of any emails I get from
people I do not know.
> I am only replying. I never
> said I did not appreciate your service because I do. I was sort of
> "turned Off" to really reading much due to all the nonsense (not you,
> but others). I think that perhaps we got off on the wrong foot with
> one another?!?
Not really, I am curt and people are sensitive when speaking of
themselves and their psychological makeup. It is very difficult to
discuss such intimate issues in a public arena, on a medium where all
that is written is archived for all to see forever.
> I honestly want to understand my chart. I believe that
> in understanding this aspect (the very first of my 48 years) I will
> finally understand who I am and no longer feel quite odd, but rather
> finally see that it is "okay" to just be me. Does that make any sense?
Of course, no one can have a such a stellium without corresponding
psychic issues. But as astrologers and counselors we can never really
know what has been done with them until we talk to you.
> Anyway, it is late and I am going to retire now. I hope to hear from
> you soon and please accept my apology for any irritation I might have
> been.
>
> Drue
No irritation was caused me, as I said I am very cautious after having
been attacked for so many years. Frauds have challenged me in every
way for a very long time, and I have not been defeated or bulllied out
of here because of my diligence in separating the bogus from the
genuine. Please feel free to post whatever you wish and ignore the
idiots if it affects you. I simply have to be aware that others pay me
for insights and it is not fair to them to just give full analysis on
usenet or other public forums, but I try to be balanced and help those
who wish to understand if I can.
Thanks!
Edmond H. Wollmann P.M.A.F.A.
© 2010 Altair Publications, SAN 299-5603
Astrological Consulting http://www.astroconsulting.com/
Artworks http://www.astroconsulting.com/personal/
The SUN http://www.edmondwollmann.com/
Cujo DeSockpuppet
> Hopefully you understand my end; For at least 12 years I have been
the laughingstock of Usenet and an asshole.
That's pretty accurate so far, Edmo.
--
Cujo - The Official Overseer of Kooks and Trolls in dfw.*,
alt.paranormal, alt.astrology and alt.astrology.metapsych. Supreme Holy
Overlord of alt.fucknozzles. Winner of the 8/2000, 2/2003 & 4/2007 HL&S
award. July 2005 Hammer of Thor. Winning Trainer - Barbara Woodhouse
Memorial Dog Whistle - 12/2005 & 4/2008. COOSN-266-06-01895.
"I have never been incorrect. Nothing will be retracted." - Ed
in Fantasyland sans diplomas.
E. H. Wollmann - The One Who Rules
>
> - Show quoted text -
It has nothing to do with it, they will do this to distract readers
away from the fact that I am competant in what I do and since they
want me to look bad, any sort of disruption to my being able to
demonstrate anything suits them fine.
Edmond H. Wollmann P.M.A.F.A.
© 2010 Altair Publications, SAN 299-5603
Astrological Consulting http://www.astroconsulting.com/
E. H. Wollmann - The One Who Rules
> On Feb 9, 11:54 pm, "Edmond H. Wollmann" <arcturian...@earthlink.net>
> wrote:
>
> > On Feb 9, 10:43 am, CFA wrote:
>
> > > Silveen wrote:
> > > >Ken,
> > > >why are you acting this way when you post at a.a. ?
> > > >why don´t you stay over at AAmod, go back to being,
> > > >what I would see as more "normal".
>
> > He is, his normal self is a vindictive power hungry Scorpio who thinks
> > he knows more than he does.
>
> alt.astrology.moderated was the following:
>
> [...]
> * >> Only Neptune is in Water. Low water indicates
> *
> * "Low water" with Neptune square the Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus, and
> * Jupiter?
>
> Of course, in the very specific and concrete way you count elements,
In astrology, in real astrology, the chart is not ONLY low in water,
it is low in Earth (difficulty with day to day stability, does not
believe material things are "spiritual") and Fire (difficulty entering
into experiences with zeal and enthusiasm spontaneously) and has 0
Cardinal (low energy and self identity application). There is an
overemphasis on Air/Fixed--real astrology.
> that was simply a false statement. But seen from a Scorpio, I guess,
No, it isn't, it is an accurate way to BEGIN analysis.
> what the term "low water" evokes emotionally in connection with the
I do not use "emotionally", again, please read more carefully, I said
empathic.
> chart at hand at this time is simply not right. Let me try to see
> maybe an additional angle in addition to what has been said so far...
It is correct, and no amount of analolgy will change 30 years of
successful practice.
> People usually come to astrologers not at any arbitrary point in their
> life, but usually when they are stuck somewhere, often desperate,
Nope, wrong, they come because of as varying and wide reasons as there
are people.
> don't know what to do. (Contradict me if I am wrong, but this is my
> feeling and experience.)
You're wrong.
> Now, a person with so many planets in a single sign, would in my
> expectation typically not be moved very much by transits, simply
> because one planet in opposition or at a square (say) would have
> little impact on their combined force. I presume in the chart for
> Uranus and n.node in Leo this is not really a major problem, combined
Uranus is a big indicator in the chart we are discussing, because it
is Rx, 29 degrees and disposes of all the Aquarian planets. And when
transits would hit this stellium it will be felt. I pinpointed the
Saturn opposed Saturn at age 13 in 1975 as a critical point. It would
be in 11 and would have to do with the worth of the parents and the
love giving of Drue.
> "they" can air to their frustration from time to time, no longer term
> problems. But with Neptune it might really be different, like small
> movements of the earth's crust in California (earthquakes are made by
> Poseidon/Neptune in mythology), might build up and have trouble to
> come to the surface, until at some critical point it all becomes
> unstable.
Neptune indicates where people idealize, fantasize and sacrifice.
Being square the Aquarius planets indicates this person may indeed be
sacrificing self worth in relationships, stemming from the percieved
relationship with the mother etc. Sex would also be central to these
issues.
> So, if you would look at such a chart at any arbitrary time, "low
> water" would be often a fair assessment, but in the typical moment
> when such a person comes to visit an astrologer, "low water" might be
> the wrong overall message. Sure, you can also get there by first
I do not tell clients they have low water, as I said in AAModerated
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.astrology.moderated/msg/c132b8fefc8a315c?hl=en
I translate this into some statement about the parents and the persons
identity and beleifs, I do not have to waste time with jargon, I was
delineating in astrological terms for the benefit of the readers, not
the querent.
> counting elements, but that may due to special circumstances in
> typically most visiting clients be not the most efficient approach,
> hence not necessarily the best approach for the needs of the client.
You are on a tangent now.
> I know you (Ed) are very good and experienced at what you are doing
> professionally, but even you are biased, have blind spots, and others
> can contribute there. Else you might really end someday like Orion in
> mythology (the constellation is very close to Taurus, your sun sign).
> I came to this associatively because Bob Officer used the words
> "bully", "coward" and "piss" in a recent post - the first are clearly
> associations with Taurus (bull/cow), while Orion is etymologically
> close to "Urine" (and also Iran, Aryan, Aries, even Alain, my first
> name).
I am not in need of counsel.
> Tonite this scene came to my mind and felt like related to the
> situation, don't know to who of the posters here, but anyway maybe
> someone (or several) can do something with it:
> It was the long scene near the end of Wim Wender's Paris Texas, where
> the guy speaks with his ex wife face to face, but separated by a
> mirror that is only transparent from one way to the other (from his to
> her side).
> )o+
You sound like Roger with the metphors that are of little practical
use. This is why I advised the person Druebeall asking the questions
about how difficult it is to discuss this stuff in public, they get
little and you learn little because everyone seems to be the pro.
E. H. Wollmann - The One Who Rules
>
> - Show quoted text -
If you wish to discuss your chart further go to AAModerated where I
reposted the thread, it was more civil there, they come out because
they can't do this there.
E. H. Wollmann - The One Who Rules
> On Feb 10, 11:09 pm, Hermes <astalde...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Feb 10, 10:11 pm, Hermes <astalde...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Feb 9, 11:54 pm, "Edmond H. Wollmann" <arcturian...@earthlink.net>
> > > wrote:
>
> > > > On Feb 9, 10:43 am, CFA wrote:
>
> > > > > Silveen wrote:
> > > > > >Ken,
> > > > > >why are you acting this way when you post at a.a. ?
> > > > > >why don´t you stay over at AAmod, go back to being,
> > > > > >what I would see as more "normal".
>
> > > > He is, his normal self is a vindictive power hungry Scorpio who thinks
> > > > he knows more than he does.
>
> > > alt.astrology.moderated was the following:
>
> > > [...]
> > > * >> Only Neptune is in Water. Low water indicates
> > > *
> > > * "Low water" with Neptune square the Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus, and
> > > * Jupiter?
>
> > > Of course, in the very specific and concrete way you count elements,
> > > maybe an additional angle in addition to what has been said so far...
>
> > > life, but usually when they are stuck somewhere, often desperate,
> > > feeling and experience.)
>
> > > expectation typically not be moved very much by transits, simply
> > > because one planet in opposition or at a square (say) would have
> > > little impact on their combined force. I presume in the chart for
> > > Uranus and n.node in Leo this is not really a major problem, combined
> > > problems. But with Neptune it might really be different, like small
> > > movements of the earth's crust in California (earthquakes are made by
> > > Poseidon/Neptune in mythology), might build up and have trouble to
> > > come to the surface, until at some critical point it all becomes
> > > unstable.
>
> > > water" would be often a fair assessment, but in the typical moment
> > > when such a person comes to visit an astrologer, "low water" might be
> > > the wrong overall message. Sure, you can also get there by first
> > > typically most visiting clients be not the most efficient approach,
> > > hence not necessarily the best approach for the needs of the client.
>
> > > professionally, but even you are biased, have blind spots, and others
> > > can contribute there. Else you might really end someday like Orion in
> > > mythology (the constellation is very close to Taurus, your sun sign).
> > > I came to this associatively because Bob Officer used the words
> > > "bully", "coward" and "piss" in a recent post - the first are clearly
> > > associations with Taurus (bull/cow), while Orion is etymologically
> > > close to "Urine" (and also Iran, Aryan, Aries, even Alain, my first
> > > name).
>
> > > situation, don't know to who of the posters here, but anyway maybe
> > > someone (or several) can do something with it:
>
> > > It was the long scene near the end of Wim Wender's Paris Texas, where
> > > the guy speaks with his ex wife face to face, but separated by a
> > > mirror that is only transparent from one way to the other (from his to
> > > her side).
>
> > > )o+
>
>
> > > > So when I state my opinion forcefully and with conviction this makes
> > > > me a bully?
>
> > > > Edmond H. Wollmann P.M.A.F.A.
> > > > © 2010 Altair Publications, SAN 299-5603
> > > > Youtubehttp://www.youtube.com/user/EHWollmann
> > > > Twitterhttp://twitter.com/Altairtheflyer
>
> > chart... Since I am not a professional astrologer, I am also not
> > trying to make any conclusive statements, just maybe giving some
> > impulses that might help others to come closer to that...
>
> One more thing, since this is unmoderated usenet I hope some extreme
> freedom without appearing too weird may be allowed, a post from older
> times (maybe my s.node conjunct Neptune in Scporio), only surviving in
> tiny quoted fragments:
>
> hellboy (24 September 2004):
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.astrology/browse_thread/thread/fc3...
>
> I meant "files his horns to blend in" in that post, of course. The
> horns were associated with the constellation of Libra in some pre-
> Greek culture (sorry no longer have that part of the post).
>
> I'm out of here and remember how hellboy (the _good guy_ in the movie,
> with his chirally asymmetric hands (like me at the moment, my
> Cheiron's at 26 Pisces), protecting in one scene little cats in a card
> box with his relatively tiny left hand and fighting some evil creature
> with his strong right hand) got his girlfriend back from the other
> side in the movie... ;) [he threatended to go there too...]
>
> Oh yeah, to end this thread now soon (if Godwin's Law* is any good),
> let me mention that both Kant and Hitler had the sun in Taurus... :)
>
> )o+
>
> *http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
I'm not sure why you posted anything you have here.
Cujo DeSockpuppet
news:rih6n5hq2oji6tt3e...@4ax.com:
> So you didn't lose your Verio website because of abuse?
Not to mention because of a DMCA complaint. Ed still can't get one of
those right. See http://smbtech.com./ed
>>and portray me as a criminal, my life basically invaded and my privacy
>
> You are. and admitted criminal convict.
In Edmoworld he's not!
>>violated--all because I stand up for what I believe in and cannot be
>>forced to do anything and am not convinced or moved by anything but
>>logic and truth. I am therefore very leary of any emails I get from
>>people I do not know.
>
> And you use astrology as a way to play psychologist.
"Counselor" too! Mind you, I've never heard anyone telling a customer
they were a "fake client" before I ran into Edmo.
>>> I am only replying. I never
>>> said I did not appreciate your service because I do. I was sort of
>>> "turned Off" to really reading much due to all the nonsense (not
>>> you, but others). I think that perhaps we got off on the wrong foot
>>> with one another?!?
>>
>>Not really, I am curt and people are sensitive when speaking of
>
> No you're an asshole, Edmond. you always have been one. at your age I
> doubt you'll ever change. On top of being an asshole you are a
> coward.
The 10th anniversary of the PF Changs Wuss-Out is two months away!
>>themselves and their psychological makeup. It is very difficult to
>
> You are not qualified to discuss anyone psychological make-up.
> You not even a license or registered counselor of any type.
Ed is qualified to be a kook. Hell, he's overqualified.
>>discuss such intimate issues in a public arena, on a medium where all
>>that is written is archived for all to see forever.
>
> No it isn't. You still think there is a magic archive some place?
There is but Ed will never hav access.
>>> I honestly want to understand my chart. I believe that
>>> in understanding this aspect (the very first of my 48 years) I will
>>> finally understand who I am and no longer feel quite odd, but rather
>>> finally see that it is "okay" to just be me. Does that make any
>>> sense?
>>
>>Of course, no one can have a such a stellium without corresponding
>>psychic issues.
>
> Sorry Edmond there is not one shred of evidence that your statement
> is true. Astrology is nothing more than pure conjecture.
Edmo found a new astrology word to wow the rubes!
>>But as astrologers and counselors we can never really
>
> You're not a counselor, and anyone can call them selves an
> astrologer. You see there is no government recognized body to license
> Astrologers, but all counselors in the state of california have to be
> registered by the California Department of Consumer Affairs. (and
> you're not.)
It's surprising Edmo is working some shit job in La Mesa with all this
power he has by using Astrology.
>>know what has been done with them until we talk to you.
>
> Look out here comes the plea for the cold read.
>
> What Edmond is saying to you is he can not give you a reading with
> using your own unconscious reactions to his commentary to continue to
> feed you bullshit.
Not to mention try to part the rube from his money...
>>> Anyway, it is late and I am going to retire now. I hope to hear from
>>> you soon and please accept my apology for any irritation I might
>>> have been.
>>>
>>> Drue
>>
>>No irritation was caused me, as I said I am very cautious after having
>>been attacked for so many years. Frauds have challenged me in every
>>way for a very long time, and I have not been defeated or bulllied out
>>of here because of my diligence in separating the bogus from the
>>genuine. Please feel free to post whatever you wish and ignore the
>>idiots if it affects you. I simply have to be aware that others pay me
>>for insights and it is not fair to them to just give full analysis on
>>usenet or other public forums, but I try to be balanced and help those
>>who wish to understand if I can.
>>Thanks!
>
>
> LOL... Anyone that pays Edmond is a fool.
Ask Susan!
--
Cujo - The Official Overseer of Kooks and Trolls in dfw.*,
alt.paranormal, alt.astrology and alt.astrology.metapsych. Supreme Holy
Overlord of alt.fucknozzles. Winner of the 8/2000, 2/2003 & 4/2007 HL&S
award. July 2005 Hammer of Thor. Winning Trainer - Barbara Woodhouse
Memorial Dog Whistle - 12/2005 & 4/2008. COOSN-266-06-01895.
"An award that you PAID FOR! 2nd place out of TWO BOOKS! That means
you won FIRST LOSER and LAST PLACE both at the same time!" - Edmo
the loser has to face the reality of his loserdom.
Cujo DeSockpuppet
> Do not share anything with Edmond that you do not want to see
> published. Edmond has no ethics and has reposted private email over
> and over again.
Look what Edmo did with personal information of ex-girlfriends too!
--
Cujo - The Official Overseer of Kooks and Trolls in dfw.*,
alt.paranormal, alt.astrology and alt.astrology.metapsych. Supreme Holy
Overlord of alt.fucknozzles. Winner of the 8/2000, 2/2003 & 4/2007 HL&S
award. July 2005 Hammer of Thor. Winning Trainer - Barbara Woodhouse
Memorial Dog Whistle - 12/2005 & 4/2008. COOSN-266-06-01895.
"I had more clients and work BEFORE the net than I do now, which
makes no sense to me." - Edmo the blind accountant.
Cujo DeSockpuppet
news:f575b5a0-4ca7-4d4d...@k18g2000prf.googlegroups.com:
All you've demonstrated is some of the best kookfarts in the history of
Usenet. Let's make a list of your competencies!
Dumpster diving - check
Deadbeat - check
Remorseless child killer - check
Liar - check
Plagiarist - check
Stalker - check
Misogynist - check
Sociopath - check
Narcissist - check
Scumbag - check
Convicted criminal - check
Asshole - check
Award winning Usenet Kook - The most awards ever!
Damn, that's a great resume!
--
Cujo - The Official Overseer of Kooks and Trolls in dfw.*,
alt.paranormal, alt.astrology and alt.astrology.metapsych. Supreme Holy
Overlord of alt.fucknozzles. Winner of the 8/2000, 2/2003 & 4/2007 HL&S
award. July 2005 Hammer of Thor. Winning Trainer - Barbara Woodhouse
Memorial Dog Whistle - 12/2005 & 4/2008. COOSN-266-06-01895.
"Like a child embarrased in front of the class, you try to make the
threatening thing a "funny thing", so as not to have to face just how
incompetant and fearful you yourself really are." - Edmo demonstrating
his incompetance and fear.
Cujo DeSockpuppet
AAMod was created to get away from the kind of crap you generated.
Edmond H. Wollmann
> Edmond Wollmann wrote:
> > I'm not sure why you posted anything you have here.
Well, that's a good answer, repost something everyone could read the
first time.
I guess I'm done discussing. Have fun.
"Earth falls far away
New life away
Time it has no day
New life away
Here, is your dream and now how does it feel?
No words will go with you,
And now what is real.
With the eyes of a child
You must come out and see
That your world's spinning 'round
And through life you will be,
A small part
Of a hope
Of a love
That exists...
In the eyes of a child you will see."
The Moody Blues, "Eyes of a Child"
Edmond H. Wollmann P.M.A.F.A.
© 2010 Altair Publications, SAN 299-5603
Astrological Consulting http://www.astroconsulting.com/
Dave U. Random
"Edmond H. Wollmann" <arctur...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> On Feb 10, 10:19=A0pm, Hermes <astalde...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Edmond Wollmann wrote:
> > > I'm not sure why you posted anything you have here.
>
> Well, that's a good answer, repost something everyone could read the
> first time.
>
Nobody wants to read your delusional screed that you've be spamming here for years.
Cujo DeSockpuppet
2e27-4498-859...@s33g2000prm.googlegroups.com:
> On Feb 10, 10:19�pm, Hermes <astalde...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Edmond Wollmann wrote:
>> > I'm not sure why you posted anything you have here.
>
> Well, that's a good answer, repost something everyone could read the
> first time.
Like you've never done that with your tired screed, hypocrite?
> I guess I'm done discussing.
You've never stated, asshole.
> Have fun.
At your expense? People have been doing that "for years now", Pantyhead.
--
Cujo - The Official Overseer of Kooks and Trolls in dfw.*,
alt.paranormal, alt.astrology and alt.astrology.metapsych. Supreme Holy
Overlord of alt.fucknozzles. Winner of the 8/2000, 2/2003 & 4/2007 HL&S
award. July 2005 Hammer of Thor. Winning Trainer - Barbara Woodhouse
Memorial Dog Whistle - 12/2005 & 4/2008. COOSN-266-06-01895.
"I won long ago. They just don't realize its over." - Ed wins another
important court decision in the Court of Kookiness and Delusion.
noauth
"E. H. Wollmann - The One Who Rules" <AArcto...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> On Feb 10, 12:12=A0am, druebeall <ruseriou...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Feb 9, 10:03=A0pm, Bob Officer <boboffic...@127.0.0.7> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Tue, 9 Feb 2010 14:54:24 -0800 (PST), in alt.astrology, "Edmond H.
> >
> > > Wollmann" <arcturian...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> > > >> Silveen wrote:
> > > >> >Ken,
> > > >> >why are you acting this way when you post at a.a. ?
> > > >> >what I would see as more "normal".
> >
> > > >He is, his normal self is a vindictive power hungry Scorpio who thinks
> > > >he knows more than he does.
> >
> > > >> So Ed's bullying is okay with you? Got it.
> >
> > > >So when I state my opinion forcefully and with conviction this makes
> > > >me a bully?
> >
> > > Ed you act like a bully. I wonder if you piss your pants when you
> > > come face to face.
> >
> > > You are a rather ignorant bully.
> >
> > > It is common knowledge bully are just really a coward.
> >
> > > --
> > > Ak'toh'di
> >
> > I really don't understand what all this back and forth nonsense is all
> > about, but what it doesn't have anything to do with is my original
> > posting.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> >
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> It has nothing to do with it, they will do this to distract readers
> away from the fact that I am competant in what I do
Yes, competant in being the Usenet village idiot and an asshole.
Anything one needs to know about you is here http://www.smbtech.com/ed.
Edmond H. Wollmann
> I wrote:
> > A pyramid, which to Edmond Wollmann (see "Great Pyramids [...]" thread
> > at a.a) is a symbol of the 4 elements and the 3 characters, and the
> > basis of his approach to reading a chart, seen from top (polar view,
> > see Pedantus in sister thread at a.a.mod) looks like a grand square,
> > including the lines for the oppositions (grand cross), like this:
>
> > http://www.virtuescience.com/great-pyramid-top.gif
The pyramid, in both Maya and Egyptian reflects the Cardinal points,
not fixed.
> Note to Edmond Wollmann:
> When I wrote this and the corresponding post to a.a.mod (same image),
> I was _not_ consciously aware that this air picture of a pyramid looks
> very much like your own birth chart*, where there is a grand cross
No, it "looks like" the four Cardinal points which initiate
"beingness" or identity. You seem to have a Pendantus problem in that
you go all over the place. Take a breath, learn the detailed analysis
procedures to delineate a chart or you are just going to keep going in
circles. You seem to lack discipline in learning first and espousing
philosophies after.
> (Venus in Aries, Uranus/Jupiter in Cancer, Neptune in Libra, moon in
> Capricorn), even the angle at which it is tilted is similar. I was
> just following my intuition/feelings or in other words carpets of
> associations. But apparently such things really work! :)
> )o+
Anything works if you piece it togetrher like an old quilt. Not sure
why you use the Mercury symbol at the end of your posts, you act more
like a Neptunian, not Mercurial (logic, facts, methodology).
Here I tried to teach Pendantus how to read a chart, but he still goes
on with his psychological gibberish to cover up the fact that he
doesn't know how to delineate a chart either. (PS I am not grouchy, I
am just more down to Earth than you all seem to be).
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.astrology.metapsych/msg/907255998d7b0f6d?hl=en
Anonymous
>
> http://www.smbtech.com/ed
URL fixed.
Edmond H. Wollmann
> On Feb 16, 6:06 pm, "Edmond H. Wollmann" <arcturian...@earthlink.net>
> I am actually doing something extremely simple in my reasoning, I use
> association, in the way exposed in the "magic carpets" article that
Well, this may be true and may be fun, but if one follows what I am
prescribing as a method to read a chart, then when a client came to
you--the same client that would have come to me, we would have the
SAME delineation and understanding of the individual in question. It
is not a metter of speculation, it is a matter of understanding the
true psyche of the person we are delineating. If you read the link I
provided, you will see that I was ACCURATE as to the consciousness of
the individual in question--with no gibberish, not Greek gods, no
speculation, that is because the METHOD I used and developed allows us
to understand THE PERSON, not our fancies or performance art.
> you can find via my google profile. I am just cooking with water, plus
> maybe a tiny "drop" of experience and magic added here and there.
Buit if a person comes for a consultation and they want to know what
keeps them from understanding a parents cruelty, or the loss of a
lover, or the reason they lost a limb, they don't want to hear some
fanciful speculation. If you used the same methods I teach, you would
come up with the same or similar understanding of the individual as I
did in the delineation I did for Roger--not because I want to be
"right" but because I want to serve the person in question by
accurately understanding them from their psyche, not some theory or
ideology. This is EMPATHY in action and application. Most people do
not know themselves well enough to acknowledge some of the things I
discover about them because they are still unconscious
> Hermes - Mercury - )o+ is the messenger of Zeus - Jupiter - |2. The
> messenger just runs around between heaven, earth and underworld and
> sea, etc., does not have the overview of Zeus, so Hermes can indeed
> appear chaotic to the people he visits on his journeys.
Mercury in real daily experience and life is logic, numbers, financial
statements, math, clear communication. We are not in Greece, where
they could not EXPLAIN why many things are, we are now, where we can.
>I think, I can
> learn interesting things from the articles and book you wrote (and
> likely not only me), but I find it unfair and exaggerated that you
> stick so stubbornly to a view here in usenet where apparently only you
> and only your views are right
I am not interested in being right for the sake of being right or ego
concerns, I am interested in being ACCURATE in discerning
consciousness using astrology, that means I am a scientist, that
learns how to apply what I learn in astrology to understand REAL
people, REAL issues, REAL life events. One cannot predict either
personality or events without this view. If that makes me irritating,
so be it. But I have taught many students to apply astrology the way I
was trying to show you here, and they could discern the same
psychological issues and awareness of others once learned, if you
don't want to do that and just like speculating and imagining
spontaneous connections between things (which I also do, backed by
factual discernements first), then so be it. YOU are the ones actually
being arrogant, because you ignore what I am trying to have you
experience without applying it first to evaluate validity and THEN
decide its value for you, but instead go off on your own tangents
dismissing it.
>and everybody who disagrees is always
> wrong and even often doing this only out of having something
> personally against you. I hope and feel that most of this is just a
> reflex out of many years in places like unmoderated usenet where
> indeed it appears that many people just disagree always no matter
> what. You said I go all over the place: Yes, but not going anywhere is
> also not very balanced in the end, it takes both.
Well you're wrong and just being defensive because I tried to get you
and Roger and Ken to focus for a minute on an astrological application
and you seem unwilling or unable to do it and seem more concerned with
who is teaching you rather than what is being said.
> What I meant about the pyramids was that when the Egyptian ones were
> built, due to precession, siderally the cardinal points were in the
> constellations that are now in contemporary tropical astrology the
> fixed signs. I am not 100% sure what you meant with your reply.
The symbol ITSELF, like the World Tree in Mesoamerican astrology IS
THE CARDINAL CONCEPT of BELIEF Initiation. It doesn't matter where on
Earth or when it was.
> Obviously in their time, Taurus etc. was cardinal to them, or am I
> missing something here ?
You are missing an understanding of Cardinal itself perhaps; action,
initiation, EQUINOX. Are you talking about ages?
> By the way, the glyph for Jupiter, |2, was invented by Pedantus (the
> one for Mercury by me). My very slow retrograde Mercury is near the AC
> in the 12th, which is likely the main reason for my choice of screen
> name.
No, it's because you chose IT. Charts don't cause things, they reflect
things, your choices is what they reflect.
>This has grown also out of experience using different screen
> names over the years, including my real name. When I posted with my
> real name, I usually took things more personal than as "Hermes", which
> is usually not what lacks in usenet, and also other screen names did
> not work as well as "Hermes".
The names have no inherent meaning and cause nothing.
> Anyway, I will have to stick to writing almost only on weekends (and
> relatively little then), have to take care of my left arm/side, else
> it is never going to heal fully again. (Got better already, but could
> well get worse again if I am not careful.)
What happened with it?
> No reply is ever perfect, but hope this is good enough. :)
All of your replies are perfect, they perfectly reflect the idea you
are being at any given moment, and perfectly reflect the beliefs you
hold, whether you prefer those beliefs or not would be the issue.
> Best wishes,
Best wishes to you as well.
> )o+
>
> --http://www.google.com/profiles/alain.stalder.chhttp://www.exactphilosophy.net/
"I do not want to be right, I want to know WHETHER I am right." Albert
Einstein.
Anonymous
> Astrological Consulting http://www.smbtech.com/ed
URL fixed.
Edmond H. Wollmann
> On Feb 17, 6:47 am, "Edmond H. Wollmann" <arcturian...@earthlink.net>
> astrology first when I met Alois Treindl, namely the view "I am the
> measure of all things, whatever you may say is _always_ just a
> reflection of your own limitations and I could see it in your birth
> chart if you bug me too much". The world does not rotate around your
> position as professional astrologer in a client-astrologer situation
> or more generally a teacher-pupil one where you are always the
> teacher. Like parents could only teach their children and never learn
> anything from them. What did you write in your FAQ posting Jan 28th:
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.astrology/browse_thread/thread/8c1...
>
> * 8. Edmond Wollmann is the creator of the group for astrology
> called
> * alt.astrology.metapsych with the original and only charter listed
> here:
> *http://www.astroconsulting.com/FAQs/charter.htm. This group is now
> * purposely flooded with abusive posts and harassment as "payback" for
> my
> * successful termination of spammers accounts. Some astrologers (very
> few,
> * i.e., Ken Kizer) who are extremely envious of me join in with the
> * abusive posters sometimes as a way to deflect my accurate criticism
> of
> * their less than professional or skilled application of astrological
> * principles. Most astrologers or students of astrology now post
> * exclusively in alt.astrology.moderated. My posting has been limited
> * there because of the pettiness and unprofessional moderation
> techniques
> * employed.
>
> Who is speaking about professional? As far as I know, the moderators
> do that all for free in their spare time and I have been very happy
> with moderation over the years.
>
> "Always two there are, a master and an apprentice" - George Lucas (put
> into the mouth Yoda) - No, not generally!
>
> My birth chart is at my google profile. Take a look at the nodes, mine
> and yours. Of course, the neptunian side was my dive down into the
> pyramid. I have seen parts of you, of the present decade, of
> California, of Poland (Polanski, Kinski, etc.), of myself, of
> alt.astrology, and more. All that flow maybe structured and moderated
> by Uranus-Pluto in Virgo. Just because you cannot see all that and
> don't want to see it, does not mean that it is not all there...
We were discussing a persons Aquarius stellium, you get so
initimidated by my simple desire to express my method tht you and Ken
went off that. I'm done.
> Since you are the measure of all things in reading astrological
> charts, why should I argue with you, much more efficient would it be
> if you simply would take a few minutes to read my chart, yours, the
> ones of Ken, a.a., a.a.mod, and so on. Could spare all that
> superfluous talking to someone who is always right anyway.
>
> )o+
I have faith that you can be positive, no matter how miserable you
insist on being. I won't be replying to you anymore. You guys are just
like the harassers, so preoccupied with ego and projecting your
insecurities on me that you will avoid the topic to rail on me all
day. Not interested. Too busy with people and things who know better
than to waste their time on Earth with such idiocy.
druebeall
> Hermes wrote:
> >On Feb 11, 11:04 pm, CFA wrote:
> >> Hermes wrote:
> >> >On Feb 10, 11:37 pm, CFA wrote:
> >> >> Hermes wrote:
> >> >> >Now, a person with so many planets in a single sign, would in my
> >> >> >expectation typically not be moved very much by transits, simply
> >> >> >because one planet in opposition or at a square (say) would have
> >> >> >little impact on their combined force.
>
> >> >> Most people with packed planets like this report pretty much the exact
> >> >> opposite- that their lives often blow completely up, or at least
> >> >> portions of it.
>
> >> >My personal feeling and estimation would have been that this would
> >> >happen only very rarely (every 10 to 15 years or so) with a chart like
> >> >that, but I may well be wrong.
>
> >> It could happen much more often than that. Consider any of the four
> >> outermost planets making a conjunction, square, or opposition by
> >> transit.
>
> >Yes, I see what you mean. My feeling was just that the forces of a
> >single transiting outer planet might be limited in the sense that if
> >it is in hard aspect to many natal planets, it might have to split its
> >forces, so from the point of view of each natal planet there might be
> >little force felt - but maybe that is simply not how it works with
> >aspects -
>
> The image that comes to mind is gravity or some form of magnetism
> between planets, and the more planets, the greater the force involved.
>
> > maybe even especially in the case of transiting outer
> >(collective) planets like Uranus, Neptune, Pluto, in contrast to a
> >transiting inner (personal) planet -
>
> I don't think it matters what the transiting planet is, except that,
> say, Uranus moves slower and has more pronounced effects than Venus.
>
> >outer/"collective" could in that
> >sense imply almost unlimited "force" provided by the collective.
>
> >OK, I guess I have to remain open to the question due to limited
> >direct experience. I hope someday it will be possible to hear some
> >elements of the story from Drue directly (and best wishes in the
> >meantime). :)
>
> I have 5 planets from 15° to 24° cardinal. It's always a fun ride when
> transits move through that little slice of the chart.
>
> Ken
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@ Ken
This is Drue. Any time you have a question for me do not hesitate to
ask. I will gladly answer your questions.
drue
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