Astrological Definitions FAQ Periodic Posting
E. H. Wollmann - The One Who Rules
All Truths Pass Through Three Stages:
1st: It is ridiculed
2nd: It is violently opposed
3rd: It is accepted as self-evident
Schopenhauer
If you are familiar with Astrology, you are probably aware of the
tremendous insight about yourself and others this complex subject
affords once mastered. A horoscope properly prepared for the time,
date, and place of one's birth, can be the most useful tool of
understanding when applied and understood properly. A properly
constructed horoscope cannot be delineated through a newspaper Sunsign
column or a 1-900 phone number!
We create our experiential reality based on the beliefs and world view
we hold---both conscious and unconscious.
Astrology is the study of the synchronistic interaction of the psyche
and its reflection in the physical world. Inner reality and outer
reality are one. The horoscope allows us to see the factors in both
realms to understand how we are creating what we are creating. We
cannot change that which we do not own.
When blended with other paradigms of the helping professions astrology
becomes a powerful tool of insight and a guide to the
remediation--psychologically--of belief conflicts. Astrology allows us
to move towards the redefinition and reframing of psychic material on
all levels through awareness of our conscious and unconscious beliefs.
Astrology combined with psychology assists us in taking responsibility
for the creation of our reality through the recognition and
understanding of how these projected versions of our psyche and
experience have been created through our choices in belief and
definition of the self.
The horoscope can be likened to a photograph of the solar system
(geocentric perspective of the heavens) at the time of your birth from
the place of your birth of the positions of the planets against the
backdrop of Constellation configurations, or division of the equinox
(areas of space). It reflects a web or matrix of vibrational frequency
(explained as wave-forms in holographic terms or the EM spectrum in
physics terms), which is then interpreted by the astrologer or
psychologist.
The Horoscope is a map of the mathematical relationship of the planets
to the earth and each other at the time of our birth. It reflects
individuality and identity, it does not cause it. The planets reflect
the archetypal references (existing as ideas) that are inherent in the
Multiverse (many layered universe) holographically. These archetypes
were refined in delineation by the noted psychologist, Carl Jung. These
"ideas" are reflected in all that we see around us because we are one
with the universe and are that reality. Physical reality is a
projection-a version of consciousness in material form. The silly
"advice that applies to anyone" astrology promoted in newspapers and
magazines based only on Sunsigns is not true astrology.
Perhaps this is where superstitious and uninformed beliefs about
astrology being a mechanistic cause rather than a synchronistic
reflection comes from.
Here are a few of the unsubstantiated assumptions about astrology;
1) Astrology is a subject that one either "believes" in or not.
Astrology is not a religion or cult. Therefore faith is not required
for it to function. It is a subject that can be known and is
operationally obvious once it is learned. Hence the concept of
believing in it is an effect of the mis-perception of what it is. We
cannot believe or not believe in something that we know nothing about
anyway. The sciences themselves are belief systems and constructs to
explain reality (See Thomas Kuhn and "The Nature of Scientific
Revolutions", University Chicago Press, 1962).
2) Astrology must be an Art or a Science.
Astrology is an Art/Science. The scientific aspect is in the
horoscope's construction, calculation, and mathematical
interrelationship measurements between astronomical bodies against
galactic backdrop (geometries). The art aspect is in the intuited
blending of astrological significators into psychodynamic awareness and
the communication of this awareness and remediation to client. This
part, like all crafts, must be mastered before application can ensue.
Astrology does not discount free will, evolution, nor the existence of
an infinite creator. Physics is now demonstrating that the
consciousness of the observer is intimately connected with the creation
of the observed (Please review "The Self-Aware Universe" by Amit
Goswami, 1993). Astrology contains science, but science cannot contain
astrology.
3) Astrology must be proven scientifically before we can accept it as
valid.
Astrology and science are two different ways of investigating the
universe. The horoscope, like art, requires sensibilities not found in
science. However, astrology does contain science found in science. But
astrology is more than science as described above and cannot limit its
application to such a focused and exclusive subject as science.
Astrology reflects life, and living is not a science.
Science is an element of astrology. Since astrology is an Art/Science
only the scientific aspects can stand empiricism. The Art of
interpretation may be open to debate as to style or application, but
validity is always based on service to client or public-as is
psychology, stock market forecasting, weather forecasting or earthquake
prediction, and none of these are totally empirically working models.
Service is the client's or the served's decision and evaluation as to
life quality enhancement.
4) Astrology influences human behavior.
This myth is the most difficult for everyone. We create our
experiential reality utterly and only as the end product of what we
believe or have been taught to believe is true. Science examines the
momentum of these creations as they manifest physically. However, it
must be stated emphatically that most of these definitions are held in
an unconscious state and must be acknowledged or brought to awareness.
The horoscope "causes" nothing. It is a synchronistic reflection of
other aspects of the self and the self's created definitions of reality
at any given moment. It does not "cause" behavior or personality, any
more than a mirror causes our appearance. Like a mirror, astrology
helps us to see ourselves. The Horoscope allows us to understand a
vibrational frequency determination based on the self's definitions,
reflected in physicality. The illusion of external reality is just
that, real while you are focused and oriented to it--but an illusion
none-the-less. "All That Is" or God is all that is, and we are all the
different ways that "All That Is" has of expressing itself within the
creation that it is-eternally. All differing colors within the one
white light. Philosophers and Religions have long known that the
"kingdom of heaven is within". This is NOT a new idea. Only one that
the belief system of science has discounted.
The value of astrology is in the ability through this reflection, to
understand these beliefs and definitions that we may possess
unconsciously, so that we can acknowledge and own them. Once we own
them we can redefine them. We cannot change something we do not own!
Life is a configuration of choices. No-thing in the universe has built
in meaning, we give it meaning by the definitions we hold at any given
moment. We then attach this meaning to things, and extract that meaning
from the neutral props known as physical reality. Astrology helps us
understand WHAT meanings we may be attaching to "things" and hence why
we extract what we do.
If we place a positive meaning in; we extract a positive effect out,
negative effect in; negative effect out. This is a simple mechanistic
psychological understanding. Psychological mechanics- which the
observer then observes, creates, establishes theories of, propagates
ideas of, collects data from, makes hypothesis about, and otherwise
chooses to make so!
Yes, we create en mass an agreed upon collectively established reality
that appears to be fixed. This is necessary, or we would all have no
common ground on which to relate and share the experience we call
physicality. But that in no sense means that we are bound 100% to it.
Each of us created the "hallway" of experiential choice at incarnation
reflected through the horoscope.
Our actions - unless consciously acknowledged as unconscious belief and
momentum - are just REactions to the prescription the free will of the
oversoul (ourselves) made as a choice of general thematic "hallway"
experiences. The free will of the physical self (the oversoul in its
physical version) then chooses how it will go down this "hallway" but
go down this "hallway" we have already willed. (please refer to Darryl
Anka as Bashar and "The Hallway analogy", 1987).
Our creations through history have shown this; that even collective
limitations are mass imposed. We have gone to the moon and back. So we
can redefine this collective reality at any given moment as well. It is
a preferential choice based on awareness of our own belief limitations.
Astrology's best use is for the enhancement of awareness, alleviation
of self imposed limitation, and the promotion of self actualization and
empowerment through self-discovery and positive individuation. This is
outlined in greater detail in my text "The Integrated Astrological
Guide to Self-Empowerment" which is available at any bookstore.
For an individual or a business, the value of astrology is obviously in
providing the understanding of how we project our beliefs and
definitions of reality into reality. Nothing in the universe has built
in meaning. We give it meaning through our definition choices. Many
opportunities are lost for successful relationship, career and
financial preference simply because we know little about ourselves and
how we may be unconsciously limiting ourselves. Clear understanding of
our own and others psychological needs are the primary benefits of
astrological consultation.
We can also project these definition issues by their momentum into the
future. Most of us lack nothing more than the willingness and boldness
to be anything we believe we can define ourselves to be, and to look
inwardly with trust for these beliefs.
Edmond H. Wollmann P.M.A.F.A.
Astrological Consultant
"Astrology, bar sinister in the escutcheon of astronomy, maintains a
unique and lonely position in human thought. It is "believed in" by a
lot of people who know practically nothing about it; and it is
"disbelieved in" by even more who know ABSOLUTELY nothing about it. Of
no other art or science can this be said." Grant Lewi, "Why I believe
in Astrology"
Edmond H. Wollmann
Astrological Consultant
Posting with these basic understandings is greatly appreciated. This
FAQ is located at;
http://www.astroconsulting.com/FAQs/info.htm
Edmond H. Wollmann P.M.A.F.A.
© 2005 Altair Publications, SAN 299-5603
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E. H. Wollmann - The One Who Drools wrote:
> http://www.astroconjob.com/FAQs/info.htm
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> All Truths Pass Through The Three Stooges:
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> All Kooks Pass Through Three Stages:
> 1st: It is ridiculed
> 2nd: It is parodied
> 3rd: It wins Kook Awards
Genius has limits, idiocy doesn't. Nice to see you've opted for the
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Please post something that isn't screed, fuckhole.
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Edmond Wollmann
> Pedantus Punctilious wrote (love that name):
> "Well, your essay never addresses the fact that knowledge only comes in
> two flavors--objective and subjective; thus Astrology falls under the
> same catagory as any religion, because Astrology has no demonstrably
> objective existence. "
This is not entirely true, knowledge can come from the unconscious
portions of the self, which may or may not be subjective or objective.
Also, it has been shown that as we approach the quantum world etc. that
this division is essentially an illusion.
> You agree with my lawyer friend, PP -- he views astrology in the same
> light like a "religion".
> I hestitate with that category, since religion presupposes worship of a
> god/goddess or are there any religions without a head diety? I have not
> studied ancient religions since Eygpt and Ra -- monotheism. Refresh me
> if their are true religions w/o a diety, please. ;) Scientology maybe?
> Are they a religion?
Religion=Religio, to re-link to a source. However, modern religion is
basically the science of following, wherein the so-called leader
presumes awarenss and knowledge the "followers" do not possess. This of
course is an illusion based on the Orion concepts of domination passes
down for hundreds of thousands of years-- because we all have the same
ability to access our own sources.
Snip definitions.
> Nope. This is NOT us, IMO. Since the chart data is not necessarily
> connected to any diety or higher power controlling destiny. For my
> money, it is simply a logically organized, extremely sophisticated
> scientific model base on the illusion of time on point spec GPS of the
> place at the birth on this planet.
A holographic "photo" so to speak of your consciousness and its
movement through time.
Another snip.
> Although I perfectly agree that "astrology causes nothing". In my view,
> the data seems to be a representative of a symbolic map of a specific
> individual on this plane of reality, including the genetics from
> parenteral heritage.
Yes, logically, one should be able to "re-link" to ones own source and
read the vibrational sea from whence we came.
> The thing about Ed's essay that is a little hard for me to reconcile is
> our "personal reality" being the ultimate "control" of that reality.
Our personal beliefs yes.
> I just don't buy having all that control, IMO. That is unless he
> believes that I am living ONLY in my on personal holographic universe,
> and not sharing it with others who are behaving due to their own
> realities in tandem with mine. Since I have no control control over
> their realities and they seem to do as they please. I may or may not
> be in agreement with them in my reality. I can only try to get out of
> their way before I get injured.
Alright, but this simply indicates that you really do not understand my
view. We CO-create realities with all other beings. The collective
reality then becomes the "reality" everyone "believes" exists outside
of them independently because it APPEARS to apply to all--but it
doesn't. I have explained this many times on usenet. If you are
familiar with Venn diagrams http://www.venndiagram.com/ you may be able
to understand more clearly. Others DO exist, but they have nothing to
do with my reality if our "Venn diagrams" of similarity in perspective
do not overlap. And our realities ONLY affect and interact if they do
and where they do. The attraction of others into my reality or
overlapping diagram are the effect of like vibration or belief
constructs.
> In recent traffic event of woman hydroplaning down a hill and across
> the lane into me in my car. Had I been in control of my reality
> consiously, I might have left from my meeting 5 minutes later and have
> avoided her, but since I received no conscious advanced warning of her
> reality intersecting my own -- she damaged my car when her reality
> collided with mine.
Not possible. We create our reality by our UNconscious beliefs as well
as conscious, hence you left exactly as you chose to unconsciously to
interact with a reality you BELIEVED on some level was possible (or
necessary), otherwise you certainly would never have met her.
If you had NO NEED either unconsciously or consciously to experience
that reality--or did not truly believe it a part of your "Venn diagram"
then those circles COULD NOT INTERSECT.
It is simple logic. Your conscious judgment that avoiding it would have
been more useful or "better" than encountering it, may or may NOT be
accurate. Because who knows if by encountering that... some other
aspect of your momentum was changed dramatically that was far more
important to your development than you are consciouly aware of. We
simply are not as wise and our perceptions as broad as we think, and we
cannot constrict the truth to fit our prescriptions and beliefs about
what is "good and bad".
> This goes back to the philosophical agreement that frequently flames
> down chat sites. Taking repsonsibility for being raped, murdered and
> tossed in the dumpster or not. I just do not buy that the people who
> are horrifically harmed and killed daily in all our news "reality" by
> others have any choice in the matter -- other than being at that time
> and place in the universe when anothers reality intersected -- i.e.
> being there at that moment in time described by the birth chart map as
> a possible event of the attributes of Mars + Mercury + whatever and the
> synastry of her chart with mine.
Then you cannot believe in astrology, or Venn diagrams. Because when
the Venn do not overlap, the reality of circle A simply does not become
a part of circle B.
> Einstein said that the experience of time is an illusion. We have a
> very structured and rigid reality constructed of this illusion, but I
> have never known of a person to be able to control the illusion of time
> except under the influence of cannabis. LOL And even then, the clocks
> on the wall persist in telling the reality of the time beamer in Denver
> (or is it Colorado Springs) that keeps my atomic clocks synced up to
> "reality".
You do it all the time, it is called dreaming. There is no independent
reality that exists outside of you. THAT is the biggest illusion many
cannot transcend.
> Maybe Ed is speaking of a sort of philosophy of "reality" as shown in
> the movie "Run, Lola, Run."
> Best regards -- LL
I am speaking literally, you cannot experience a reality that is not a
part of you on SOME level. It is simple physics.
"Space has no objective reality except as an order or arrangement of
the objects we perceive in it, and time has no independent existence
apart from the order of events by which we measure it." The Universe
and Dr. Einstein
Spamstér
Edmond Wollmann wrote:
> LibraLove wrote:
>
>>Pedantus Punctilious wrote (love that name):
>
>
>>"Well, your essay never addresses the fact that knowledge only comes in
>>two flavors--objective and subjective; thus Astrology falls under the
>>same catagory as any religion, because Astrology has no demonstrably
>>objective existence. "
>
>
> This is not entirely true, knowledge can come from the unconscious
So, you're not conscious when you post?
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Brian Peppers
> LibraLove wrote:
>
>>Pedantus Punctilious wrote (love that name):
>
>
>>"Well, your essay never addresses the fact that knowledge only comes in
>>two flavors--objective and subjective; thus Astrology falls under the
>>same catagory as any religion, because Astrology has no demonstrably
>>objective existence. "
>
>
> This is not entirely true, knowledge can come from the unconscious
> portions of the self, which may or may not be subjective or objective.
> Also, it has been shown that as we approach the quantum world
That kooks and fuckheads will toss in the word "quantum" to make their
bullshit sound all sciency.
Thrasher Remailer
<wollma...@spam.free> wrote:
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Edmond Wollmann
> Edmond Wollmann wrote:
> > LibraLove wrote:
> > > Pedantus Punctilious wrote (love that name):
> > > "Well, your essay never addresses the fact that knowledge only comes in
> > > two flavors--objective and subjective; thus Astrology falls under the
> > > same catagory as any religion, because Astrology has no demonstrably
> > > objective existence. "
> > This is not entirely true, knowledge can come from the unconscious
> > portions of the self, which may or may not be subjective or objective.
> > Also, it has been shown that as we approach the quantum world etc. that
> > this division is essentially an illusion.
> Yes, but a very necessary illusion in my view. People who have lost
> this "illusion" between conscious awareness and the unconscious are
> rarely seen in public -- usually found locked up in mental institutions
> in an advanced state of psychosis.
This analysis tells us more of your precepts than of the construct of
which we are discussing.
If you simply KNOW that your reality experiences are the product of
both conscious and unconscious psychic material, then one can assume
that there is no "accident" and that what you are experiencing MUST be
a part of the path that you chose to be. Now astrology confirms my
argument, because the chart will then reflect through astrological
connections, the NATURE of the interaction and event.
No need for dissolving Saturnian boundaries in a Neptunian fog that is
unuseable.
> Even in controlled situations like remote viewing, disolving the
> barrier between the unconcious and the conscious can be very hazardous.
I never said anything about dissolving boundaries. I am a Taurus with
the Moon in Capricorn with Saturn opposing the Sun. I can "consciously
strategize" conscious mind level material with the best of them. I am
in no fog and in business I am lethal.
THIS DOES NOT MEAN automatically that I cannot glean information about
my unconscious processes and unconscious creations by reading my cards
in the morning to discern the overall momentum of my psyche.
> It is a very rare remote viewer or psychic who is capable of tolerating
> that "other reality" and not falling into what a medical profession
> would call a psychotic state and require medication.
That is because like you, they believe that that is necessary (the
dissolution of one into the other). I do not share that view and am
profoundly pragmatic and practical with both my astrology and
psychology. I can STILL allow messages to come through from the
unconscious without it "causing" any sort of fog.
> Also there is so much electromagnetic interference you really need a
> Faraday cage and flotation to really dissolve that barrier and clearly
> experience the other levels of consciousness (or personal reality). For
> that reason, it is in my view, impossible on a day to day basis to do
> what you suggest and have it useful.
And they call me a kook?:-))
> > Snip definitions.
> > Another snip.
> > Our personal beliefs yes.
> Like vibration or belief constructs attract others into my reality?
Of course! That is ALL ASTROLOGY IS--a mirror that tells you WHY you do
attract what you do.
> Well, of course this can be seen in synastry -- the stronger the
> combination of aspects and the tighter the orbs -- the more likely a
> degree of connection may be continued once we meet.
No one can get INTO a "connection" with you without there being one.
> I find I lose touch almost immediately with people who have few
> connection aspects with my chart or in some cases really bad tight
> orbed ones as well.
You do not share beliefs and similar constructs then.
> > > In recent traffic event of woman hydroplaning down a hill and across
> > > the lane into me in my car. Had I been in control of my reality
> > > consiously, I might have left from my meeting 5 minutes later and have
> > > avoided her, but since I received no conscious advanced warning of her
> > > reality intersecting my own -- she damaged my car when her reality
> > > collided with mine.
> > Not possible. We create our reality by our UNconscious beliefs as well
> > as conscious, hence you left exactly as you chose to unconsciously to
> > interact with a reality you BELIEVED on some level was possible (or
> > necessary), otherwise you certainly would never have met her.
> > If you had NO NEED either unconsciously or consciously to experience
> > that reality--or did not truly believe it a part of your "Venn diagram"
> > then those circles COULD NOT INTERSECT.
> I do not buy that theory. Like I said, to have known that I would meet
> her on that slick road would assume agreement that I agreed to the
Just because you didc not "consciously" know it, is not evidence that
there was no part by you in it.
> event for some benefit of mine. I do not believe that I did. I believe
> that it was accidental and was by virtue of my inner clock that had me
> moving on my track in that direction at hat moment in time.
Then you do not believe in astrology, which only acts as a mirror of
the interactions of consciousnesses and therefore there can be no such
thing as "accidents". Uranus rules this issue--it also rules the
unconscious--it also rules the "surprise" persons like you experience
when they dis-cover (uncover) aspects of their consciousness they do
not wish to own, because they "believe" it cannot be a part of them,
hence, they remain at Saturn with things outside of them, "affecting"
them with no personal responsibility for the reality they encountered
as a mirror of theirselves.
> However, the fact that her track collided with mine was not something I
> could be aware of -- since even being aware of my own path and schedule
> is hazy on most days -- I do not think I can be aware of hers as well.
Incorrect. Then you are wasting time with astrology if cannot trust
that it can serve you--or that other "occult" sciences can serve to
illuminate this very idea. That is the POINT of studying these
subjects. Certainly it is not to confirm we have no control over our
lives and no way to re-create what we prefer? This would nullify the
entire concept of free will --and pointfullness to our very existence.
> Like I said earlier, to have precognition of the event of that day
> would have been an indication of my mental filters going awry and thus
> a chemical or organic brain disturbance. We have those filters built in
> for a reason -- survival and people without them or damged filters leak
> subconscious material into the conscious mind and get locked up.
> Simple.
Your beliefs, and that is all. You were TAUGHT that this is "the truth"
but it isn't.
> > It is simple logic. Your conscious judgment that avoiding it would have
> > been more useful or "better" than encountering it, may or may NOT be
> > accurate. Because who knows if by encountering that... some other
> > aspect of your momentum was changed dramatically that was far more
> > important to your development than you are consciouly aware of. We
> > simply are not as wise and our perceptions as broad as we think, and we
> > cannot constrict the truth to fit our prescriptions and beliefs about
> > what is "good and bad".
> If you are talking about a contract before birth and a life-plan, I
> could go with that, but all the little details are not included in that
> plan only the over-view to the total puzzle and so one does not have
> control over much of the other minutae that occurs, IMO.
If you say so. But the details ARE a part of the plan, not an
interruption to it. You ARE a path, not on one.
> > > This goes back to the philosophical agreement that frequently flames
> > > down chat sites. Taking repsonsibility for being raped, murdered and
> > > tossed in the dumpster or not. I just do not buy that the people who
> > > are horrifically harmed and killed daily in all our news "reality" by
> > > others have any choice in the matter -- other than being at that time
> > > and place in the universe when anothers reality intersected -- i.e.
> > > being there at that moment in time described by the birth chart map as
> > > a possible event of the attributes of Mars + Mercury + whatever and the
> > > synastry of her chart with mine.
> > Then you cannot believe in astrology, or Venn diagrams. Because when
> > the Venn do not overlap, the reality of circle A simply does not become
> > a part of circle B.
> I am too tired to do a Venn diagram, having just finished an elaborate
> cell biology diagram on stress and hormones, etc.
Don't confuse you with the facts...ok:-)
> > > Einstein said that the experience of time is an illusion. We have a
> > > very structured and rigid reality constructed of this illusion, but I
> > > have never known of a person to be able to control the illusion of time
> > > except under the influence of cannabis. LOL And even then, the clocks
> > > on the wall persist in telling the reality of the time beamer in Denver
> > > (or is it Colorado Springs) that keeps my atomic clocks synced up to
> > > "reality".
> > You do it all the time, it is called dreaming. There is no independent
> > reality that exists outside of you. THAT is the biggest illusion many
> > cannot transcend.
> > > Maybe Ed is speaking of a sort of philosophy of "reality" as shown in
> > > the movie "Run, Lola, Run."
> > > Best regards -- LL
> > I am speaking literally, you cannot experience a reality that is not a
> > part of you on SOME level. It is simple physics.
> So then there is predetermination of life events and the chart is just
No, I did not say that, you can redefine yourself at ANY GIVEN MOMENT,
and then begin to discern THAT level of development. The chart is NOT
static, like Christ said about the Bible, it is alive, it has many
levels, it is not written in stone with only one delineation. As you
increase your awareness the chart MUST CHANGE. Everything grows and
changes constantly, and we create the future AND the past from the
present--the only time we "actually" exist, and all redefinition of
either direction is firmly planted there.
> a map and a role we play and walk through until physical death. So in
> effect, we are only living out our destinies and unbeknownst to us as
> it is.
It is your CHOICE for it to be "unknown", whether you choose to live at
the level of Saturn (unknown and happening from outside) or at Uranus
(knowing it all must be a part of you on some level).
> > "Space has no objective reality except as an order or arrangement of
> > the objects we perceive in it, and time has no independent existence
> > apart from the order of events by which we measure it." The Universe
> > and Dr. Einstein
> Sylvester James Gates, University of Maryland: "We have observed four
> forces in action in nature. There's the force of gravity. There's the
> electromagnetic force-we use that in computers, we use that in our
> modern information technology. There is the strong nuclear force, the
> force from which the sun derives its energy. We found the weak nuclear
> force when substances that were naturally radioactive, such as radium,
> were found to glow in the dark. Could there be more forces? The answer
> is yes. There could be more, but we have not seen them in laboratory
> experiments, and physics is always about what we see in the laboratory.
> A unified field theory has to explain all of this and include gravity."
> "Gravity is the odd man out for deep philosophical reasons. When Newton
> wrote down his mathematical description of gravity, there was an
> assumption lurking in the equations; they didn't depend on time. His
> equations say that something in one location can have an affect at
> another location far removed at the instant that it occurs. So the
> instant something happens here, it's automatically and instantaneously
> known at the second location. This idea of action at distance, which is
> an almost magical kind of idea, sits conceptually under Newton's
> description of gravity. Newton was aware of this and in his famous
> "Principia" spoke about the philosophical unpleasantness of including
> such an idea."
> Because Einstein proved in his equations that when an event happens at
> one location, it takes time for it to be known at another and the
> fastest the communication can occur between the two points is the speed
> of light. So something actually carries the information back and forth
> and those carriers are things like the photon.
In this reality yes.
> So there seem to be a few things to be worked out yet, and Gates thinks
> gravity has to be the key, but I will have to continue another time as
> it is late here.
> I have for many years puzzled over how a woman on 78th street could
> relayed a complete conversation to me from a man living on 86th street
> and Lexington and I was all the way across Central Park on West 85th.
> The woman told me in advance of a phone call I would receive and it
> happened just as she said about 10 days later. I almost dropped the
> phone when the call came. The woman and the caller had never met and I
> had to consider something in physics had to account for the movement of
> the thoughts through the ether to her and then to me. Very strange. I
> think it is probably the most bizarre event I have ever experpienced in
> my lifetime.
> Ciao -- LL
"The job of the artist is always to deepen the mystery." Francis Bacon
Spamstér
Edmond Wollmann wrote:
> If you simply KNOW that your reality experiences are the product of
> both conscious and unconscious psychic material, then one can assume
> that there is no "accident" and that what you are experiencing MUST be
> a part of the path that you chose to be.
Then why have you chosen to be an award winning kook?
Dan Baldwin
>
> I am in no fog and in business I am lethal.
Your own-goals don't count, fuckhead. (mind you, they /are/ funny as
hell, though)
--
Dan Baldwin, unethical *by design*
I am a minion of Satan, but my powers are mainly administrative.
Hail the un-alive
Flash Bazbo
Dan Baldwin wrote:
> Edmond "chronic failure" Wollmann wrote:
> >
> > I am in no fog and behind the wheel I am lethal.
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Brian Peppers
> LibraLove wrote:
>
>>Edmond Wollmann wrote:
>>
>>>LibraLove wrote:
>>>
>>>>Pedantus Punctilious wrote (love that name):
>
>
>>>>"Well, your essay never addresses the fact that knowledge only comes in
>>>>two flavors--objective and subjective; thus Astrology falls under the
>>>>same catagory as any religion, because Astrology has no demonstrably
>>>>objective existence. "
>
>
>>>This is not entirely true, knowledge can come from the unconscious
>>>portions of the self, which may or may not be subjective or objective.
>>>Also, it has been shown that as we approach the quantum world etc. that
>>>this division is essentially an illusion.
>
>
>>Yes, but a very necessary illusion in my view. People who have lost
>>this "illusion" between conscious awareness and the unconscious are
>>rarely seen in public -- usually found locked up in mental institutions
>>in an advanced state of psychosis.
>
>
> This analysis tells us more of your precepts than of the construct of
> which we are discussing.
Your analysis tells us more of your arrogant stupidity.
>
Edmond Wollmann
All Truths Pass Through Three Stages:
1st: It is ridiculed
Edmond H. Wollmann P.M.A.F.A.
Astrological Consultant
Edmond H. Wollmann P.M.A.F.A.
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Cujo DeSockpuppet
@earthlink.net:
> http://www.smbtech.com/ed <- De-Kookified!!!1!!!
Eat shit, Edmo.
--
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dfw.*, alt.paranormal, alt.astrology and alt.astrology.metapsych.
Winner of the 8/2000 & 2/2003 HL&S award. Hail Petitmorte!
Colonel of the Fanatic Legion. FL# 555-PLNTY Motto: ABUNDANCE!.
Hammer of Thor - July 2005. Supreme Holy Overlord of alt.fucknozzles.
"Nutrinos (sic) are one of the key understanding to this idea. This is how
most aliens traverse the multiverse at this time." - Edmo on a full
delusional ride in his own created reality.
Brian Peppers
>
> All Truths Pass
over Ed Wollmann's head with supersonic velocity.
Dan Baldwin
>
> http://www.astrocons
Ya know, when I'd said the other day that I was a bit sad to see the
Wollmann Era pass away, I wasn't suggesting that a full return to
screed-fest Spam-A-thons was a more appealing alternative. My apologies
if I gave out the wrong impression.