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From: Richard Morton Scoville a.k.a. Marc Wigle
Date: 12/19/05 08:17:05
Subject: WTF
 
What do Darrell Larose and Gary Burnore have to do with your posting?
 
___________  
 
Richard,
 
The work we do on the Internet and in the real world....is NOT about choosing sides, keeping score, or any other kind of new-age-Internet non-sense.  It's about what's right NOT who's right!
 
If you have something to say, that does not demean people with disabilities, we welcome your input, however if your posting here, as a reason to argue, disrespect or to attempt to subvert our human rights work in the real & cyber-world, I suggest to look for another place on the Internet for that kind of foolishness.
 
We are Canadian Human Rights Group (NGO) who's Constitution, and Statement of Purpose are provided by the United Nation's High Commission for Human Rights.  (word for word)    We are also Incorporated in Canada, as sanctioned by the Rule of Law. We are Not a newsgroup/spam list,or a place to vent your frustrations or personal agenda.
 
You try pissing in our pond,  then you can trust me as an Advocate, you will most certainly regret it.  
 
If you treat us with courtesy and respect, you will get the same from us, if you treat us as if we were fools, the joke will most assuredly be on you friend.
 
Regards,
 
Steven V.Palmer ~ DRA Advocate
DISABLED RIGHTS ALLIANCE
A Non-Government Organization
Victoria, British Columbia, Canada
 
 
 
 
-------Original Message-------
 
Date: 12/19/05 09:58:27
Subject: Re: WTF
 
So, in other words, you're helping to disparage their names for no
reason? I doubt that you'll get too many people on your side with this
posting.
 
 
Disabled Rights Alliance wrote:
> Hi Richard,
>
> Actually I have no idea, why don't you check it out then give us all an
> update?
>
> We certainly are not trying to obfuscate anything, or are we saying anything
> that is not the simple fact of the matter.
>
> There is an old saying some of us who work as advocates in the non-cyber
> world use when dealing with disability issues...
>
> Pound the Law, if that doesn't work, Pound the facts, if that doesn't work,
> Pound the table!   I have also learned how to Pound their hearts as a method
> of last resort.
>
> Canadians will not even give us a place at their multi-cultural table, so
> what do you think we should do?    Sitting on our ass and complaining about
> what others do, will make no difference in a culture that could care less
> what happens to the disabled, that's why nearly 70% of Canada's homeless
> population are disabled persons.   They are not, what the Canadian media is
> making them appear to be to the public.   We call that spin control,or
> damage control... for want of a better more descriptive term
>
> And also why there have been more than 6,000 adult deaths and more than 700
> children dead, all under the care or control of the provincial government in
> the last 32 months in British Columbia alone.   The fact's never lie, and
> there is no way to use spin control, when your talking about the deaths of
> innocent children.   There has been no real investigation into these deaths,
> and we would probably question any investigation that was not independent of
> government interference regardless of what Canada says.
>
> People With Disabilites are a protected class of people, just not in Canada,
> eh?
>
> Regards,
>
> Steven Palmer ~DRA Advocate
>
> Remember "It's not what happens to you in life that matters, it's what you
> do about it that counts."
>
> -------Original Message-------
>
> From: Richard Morton Scoville
> Date: 12/19/05 08:17:05
> To: DISABLED RIGHTS ALLIANCE
> Subject: WTF
>
> What do Darrell Larose and Gary Burnore have to do with your posting?
>
>
> Steven Palmer wrote:
> > Dear Friends Supporters & All,
> >
> > After all the years of work we have done in Canada, and expense we have
> gone
> > to, just to have a voice on the Internet and in Canada... the DRA has has
> > been banned from posting on this Canadian usenet/google group.    This a
> > first for me.... both as an individual, and as an Advocate for the
> disabled,
> > and I have been posting on the Internet since 1997, with just the
> occasional
> > break for economic reasons beyond my control.
> >
> > These Canadian racists, pedophile's, homophobes and elitists evoked some
> > moronic and obscure Internet non-sense called goodwin's law, which of
> course
> > has no legal basis, nor does it even make sense, when you consider we are
> a
> > humanitarian human rights group/NGO, promoting equality and respect for
> > disabled Canadians.
> >
> > I am posting this Ottawa group's daily digest, just so others can see for
> > themselves ...what Canada's elitist culture, considers important, since
> > obviously what Canadians with disabilities are saying, will not be allowed
>
> >   Ottawa is the Capitol City of Canada, and the seat of the elitist
> culture,
> > which continues to discriminate against PWD with complete immunity from
> any
> > legal remedy what so ever.
> >
> > Ho Ho Ho! .... B-B-B But What about Tiny Tim, who's freezing his ass off
> in
> > the street, begging for spare change so he can eat his Christmas supper
> too?
> >
> > Best of the Season to all,
> >
> > Steven Palmer ~ DRA Advocate
> >
> >
> > ott.general
> >
 
________________________
 
Dear Detective Reuter in the Homicide
> Division of the San Antonio Police (SAPD) and reference police report
> # 05468667 and Reuter's email address is  dre...@sanantonio.gov.
 
We are a Canadian Human Rights Organization working primarily in British Columbia, but much of our "pro-active" work is on the Internet.
 
 We seem to have a harassment problem with an individual, who is apparently using a fictitious name, can you help us in some way to curtail this person's activities?
 
I am including only the e-mail thread which resulted when he chose to join our group on Google.
 
 
Respectfully,
 
Steven V.Palmer ~D.R.A. Advocate
(also an American)
 
DISABLED RIGHTS ALLIANCE
A Non-Government Organization
15-950 Humboldt Street Victoria
British Columbia, Canada V8V-2Z8
 
__________________________________
 
Cripes, here we go again with the imposter from San Antonio. You would
think after being jailed for fraud in the past you would stop trying to
pretend to be me. Please leave me alone or I will report you to your
parole officer... again. I know who you are and will contact the
authorities again if you don't leave me alone.
 
Richard
 
 
NetKop4U wrote:
> d-...@telus.net , I am the real Richard Scoville living in San Antonio
> and the guy
> who responded to you below is a Sexual Deviant by the name of Marc
> Wigle from Gatineau, Canada who forges my name, as well as my family
> name.  He will be getting his just due in the courts soon.  In the
> interim, you can report him to Detective Reuter in the Homicide
> Division of the San Antonio Police (SAPD) and reference police report
> # 05468667 and Reuter's email address is  dre...@sanantonio.gov.
> Report him to Google Groups also.  Here is all you need to know about
> this PERVERT!  I will also post this in the applicable Newsgroups and
> report him to all.  Do not put up with this Internet Abuse!
>
> Google reporting addresses...
>
> The last two are the Founders of Google
>
>
>
>
>
> ==============================================================
> Disabled Rights Alliance wrote:
> > Richard,
> >
> > The work we do on the Internet and in the real world....is NOT about
> > choosing sides, keeping score, or any other kind of new-age-Internet
> > non-sense.  It's about what's right NOT who's right!
> >
> > If you have something to say, that does not demean people with disabilities,
> > we welcome your input, however if your posting here, as a reason to argue,
> > disrespect or to attempt to subvert our human rights work in the real &
> > cyber-world, I suggest to look for another place on the Internet for that
> > kind of foolishness.
> >
> > We are Canadian Human Rights Group (NGO) who's Constitution, and Statement
> > of Purpose are provided by the United Nation's High Commission for Human
> > Rights.  (word for word)    We are also Incorporated in Canada, as
> > sanctioned by the Rule of Law. We are Not a newsgroup/spam list,or a place
> > to vent your frustrations or personal agenda.
> >
> > You try pissing in our pond,  then you can trust me as an Advocate, you will
> > most certainly regret it.
> >
> > If you treat us with courtesy and respect, you will get the same from us, if
> > you treat us as if we were fools, the joke will most assuredly be on you
> > friend.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Steven V.Palmer ~ DRA Advocate
> > DISABLED RIGHTS ALLIANCE
> > A Non-Government Organization
> > Victoria, British Columbia, Canada
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -------Original Message-------
> >
> > From: Richard Morton Scoville
> > Date: 12/19/05 09:58:27
> > To: DISABLED RIGHTS ALLIANCE
> > Subject: Re: WTF
> >
> > So, in other words, you're helping to disparage their names for no
> > reason? I doubt that you'll get too many people on your side with this
> > posting.
> >
> >
> > Disabled Rights Alliance wrote:
> > > Hi Richard,
> > >
> > > Actually I have no idea, why don't you check it out then give us all an
> > > update?
> > >
> > > We certainly are not trying to obfuscate anything, or are we saying
> > anything
> > > that is not the simple fact of the matter.
> > >
> > > There is an old saying some of us who work as advocates in the non-cyber
> > > world use when dealing with disability issues...
> > >
> > > Pound the Law, if that doesn't work, Pound the facts, if that doesn't work
> >
> > > Pound the table!   I have also learned how to Pound their hearts as a
> > method
> > > of last resort.
> > >
> > > Canadians will not even give us a place at their multi-cultural table, so
> > > what do you think we should do?    Sitting on our ass and complaining
> > about
> > > what others do, will make no difference in a culture that could care less
> > > what happens to the disabled, that's why nearly 70% of Canada's homeless
> > > population are disabled persons.   They are not, what the Canadian media
> > is
> > > making them appear to be to the public.   We call that spin control,or
> > > damage control... for want of a better more descriptive term
> > >
> > > And also why there have been more than 6,000 adult deaths and more than
> > 700
> > > children dead, all under the care or control of the provincial government
> > in
> > > the last 32 months in British Columbia alone.   The fact's never lie, and
> > > there is no way to use spin control, when your talking about the deaths of
> > > innocent children.   There has been no real investigation into these
> > deaths,
> > > and we would probably question any investigation that was not independent
> > of
> > > government interference regardless of what Canada says.
> > >
> > > People With Disabilites are a protected class of people, just not in
> > Canada,
> > > eh?
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Steven Palmer ~DRA Advocate
> > >
> > > Remember "It's not what happens to you in life that matters, it's what you
> > > do about it that counts."
> > >
> > > -------Original Message-------
> > >
> > > From: Richard Morton Scoville
> > > Date: 12/19/05 08:17:05
> > > To: DISABLED RIGHTS ALLIANCE
> > > Subject: WTF
> > >
> > > What do Darrell Larose and Gary Burnore have to do with your posting?
> > >
> > >
> > > Steven Palmer wrote:
> > > > Dear Friends Supporters & All,
> > > >
> > > > After all the years of work we have done in Canada, and expense we have
> > > gone
> > > > to, just to have a voice on the Internet and in Canada... the DRA has
> > has
> > > > been banned from posting on this Canadian usenet/google group.    This a
> > > > first for me.... both as an individual, and as an Advocate for the
> > > disabled,
> > > > and I have been posting on the Internet since 1997, with just the
> > > occasional
> > > > break for economic reasons beyond my control.
> > > >
> > > > These Canadian racists, pedophile's, homophobes and elitists evoked some
> > > > moronic and obscure Internet non-sense called goodwin's law, which of
> > > course
> > > > has no legal basis, nor does it even make sense, when you consider we
> > are
> > > a
> > > > humanitarian human rights group/NGO, promoting equality and respect for
> > > > disabled Canadians.
> > > >
> > > > I am posting this Ottawa group's daily digest, just so others can see
> > for
> > > > themselves ...what Canada's elitist culture, considers important, since
> > > > obviously what Canadians with disabilities are saying, will not be
> > allowed
> > >
> > > >   Ottawa is the Capitol City of Canada, and the seat of the elitist
> > > culture,
> > > > which continues to discriminate against PWD with complete immunity from
> > > any
> > > > legal remedy what so ever.
> > > >
> > > > Ho Ho Ho! .... B-B-B But What about Tiny Tim, who's freezing his ass off
> > > in
> > > > the street, begging for spare change so he can eat his Christmas supper
> > > too?
> > > >
> > > > Best of the Season to all,
> > > >
> > > > Steven Palmer ~ DRA Advocate
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ott.general
> > > >
 
______________
 
Dear Mr. Scoville,
 
Thank you for alerting us, we certainly appreciate the heads up.
 
We have passed the information on to the proper authorities in the United States.
 
We will also take action in Canada, and trust you understand our concern.
 
Respectfully,
 
Steven Palmer ~DRA Advocate
 
 -------Original Message-------
 
Date: 12/19/05 20:34:21
Subject: Re: WTF
 
Cripes, here we go again with the imposter from San Antonio. You would
think after being jailed for fraud in the past you would stop trying to
pretend to be me. Please leave me alone or I will report you to your
parole officer... again. I know who you are and will contact the
authorities again if you don't leave me alone.
 
Richard
 
 
NetKop4U wrote:
> d-...@telus.net , I am the real Richard Scoville living in San Antonio
> and the guy
> who responded to you below is a Sexual Deviant by the name of Marc
> Wigle from Gatineau, Canada who forges my name, as well as my family
> name.  He will be getting his just due in the courts soon.  In the
> interim, you can report him to Detective Reuter in the Homicide
> Division of the San Antonio Police (SAPD) and reference police report
> # 05468667 and Reuter's email address is  dre...@sanantonio.gov.
> Report him to Google Groups also.  Here is all you need to know about
> this PERVERT!  I will also post this in the applicable Newsgroups and
> report him to all.  Do not put up with this Internet Abuse!
>
> Google reporting addresses...
>
> The last two are the Founders of Google
>
>
>
>
>
> ==============================================================
> Disabled Rights Alliance wrote:
> > Richard,
> >
> > The work we do on the Internet and in the real world....is NOT about
> > choosing sides, keeping score, or any other kind of new-age-Internet
> > non-sense.  It's about what's right NOT who's right!
> >
> > If you have something to say, that does not demean people with disabilities,
> > we welcome your input, however if your posting here, as a reason to argue,
> > disrespect or to attempt to subvert our human rights work in the real &
> > cyber-world, I suggest to look for another place on the Internet for that
> > kind of foolishness.
> >
> > We are Canadian Human Rights Group (NGO) who's Constitution, and Statement
> > of Purpose are provided by the United Nation's High Commission for Human
> > Rights.  (word for word)    We are also Incorporated in Canada, as
> > sanctioned by the Rule of Law. We are Not a newsgroup/spam list,or a place
> > to vent your frustrations or personal agenda.
> >
> > You try pissing in our pond,  then you can trust me as an Advocate, you will
> > most certainly regret it.
> >
> > If you treat us with courtesy and respect, you will get the same from us, if
> > you treat us as if we were fools, the joke will most assuredly be on you
> > friend.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Steven V.Palmer ~ DRA Advocate
> > DISABLED RIGHTS ALLIANCE
> > A Non-Government Organization
> > Victoria, British Columbia, Canada
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -------Original Message-------
> >
> > From: Richard Morton Scoville
> > Date: 12/19/05 09:58:27
> > To: DISABLED RIGHTS ALLIANCE
> > Subject: Re: WTF
> >
> > So, in other words, you're helping to disparage their names for no
> > reason? I doubt that you'll get too many people on your side with this
> > posting.
> >
> >
> > Disabled Rights Alliance wrote:
> > > Hi Richard,
> > >
> > > Actually I have no idea, why don't you check it out then give us all an
> > > update?
> > >
> > > We certainly are not trying to obfuscate anything, or are we saying
> > anything
> > > that is not the simple fact of the matter.
> > >
> > > There is an old saying some of us who work as advocates in the non-cyber
> > > world use when dealing with disability issues...
> > >
> > > Pound the Law, if that doesn't work, Pound the facts, if that doesn't work
> >
> > > Pound the table!   I have also learned how to Pound their hearts as a
> > method
> > > of last resort.
> > >
> > > Canadians will not even give us a place at their multi-cultural table, so
> > > what do you think we should do?    Sitting on our ass and complaining
> > about
> > > what others do, will make no difference in a culture that could care less
> > > what happens to the disabled, that's why nearly 70% of Canada's homeless
> > > population are disabled persons.   They are not, what the Canadian media
> > is
> > > making them appear to be to the public.   We call that spin control,or
> > > damage control... for want of a better more descriptive term
> > >
> > > And also why there have been more than 6,000 adult deaths and more than
> > 700
> > > children dead, all under the care or control of the provincial government
> > in
> > > the last 32 months in British Columbia alone.   The fact's never lie, and
> > > there is no way to use spin control, when your talking about the deaths of
> > > innocent children.   There has been no real investigation into these
> > deaths,
> > > and we would probably question any investigation that was not independent
> > of
> > > government interference regardless of what Canada says.
> > >
> > > People With Disabilites are a protected class of people, just not in
> > Canada,
> > > eh?
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Steven Palmer ~DRA Advocate
> > >
> > > Remember "It's not what happens to you in life that matters, it's what you
> > > do about it that counts."
> > >
> > > -------Original Message-------
> > >
> > > From: Richard Morton Scoville
> > > Date: 12/19/05 08:17:05
> > > To: DISABLED RIGHTS ALLIANCE
> > > Subject: WTF
> > >
> > > What do Darrell Larose and Gary Burnore have to do with your posting?
> > >
> > >
> > > Steven Palmer wrote:
> > > > Dear Friends Supporters & All,
> > > >
> > > > After all the years of work we have done in Canada, and expense we have
> > > gone
> > > > to, just to have a voice on the Internet and in Canada... the DRA has
> > has
> > > > been banned from posting on this Canadian usenet/google group.    This a
> > > > first for me.... both as an individual, and as an Advocate for the
> > > disabled,
> > > > and I have been posting on the Internet since 1997, with just the
> > > occasional
> > > > break for economic reasons beyond my control.
> > > >
> > > > These Canadian racists, pedophile's, homophobes and elitists evoked some
> > > > moronic and obscure Internet non-sense called goodwin's law, which of
> > > course
> > > > has no legal basis, nor does it even make sense, when you consider we
> > are
> > > a
> > > > humanitarian human rights group/NGO, promoting equality and respect for
> > > > disabled Canadians.
> > > >
> > > > I am posting this Ottawa group's daily digest, just so others can see
> > for
> > > > themselves ...what Canada's elitist culture, considers important, since
> > > > obviously what Canadians with disabilities are saying, will not be
> > allowed
> > >
> > > >   Ottawa is the Capitol City of Canada, and the seat of the elitist
> > > culture,
> > > > which continues to discriminate against PWD with complete immunity from
> > > any
> > > > legal remedy what so ever.
> > > >
> > > > Ho Ho Ho! .... B-B-B But What about Tiny Tim, who's freezing his ass off
> > > in
> > > > the street, begging for spare change so he can eat his Christmas supper
> > > too?
> > > >
> > > > Best of the Season to all,
> > > >
> > > > Steven Palmer ~ DRA Advocate
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ott.general
> > > >
 
_______________
 
Hi Richard,
 
Thank you for your input and assistance.    I e-mailed the Detective in the States (Texas), and sent the same information to someone I know on the Victoria Police Department.  If needed they will probably send it on to the R.C.M.P.
 
We are in the process of writing a few letters, forwarding info to some NGO's, and looking at other possibilities to make the people responsible very uncomfortable if not criminally charged.
 
I did warn them not to piss in our pond, but this bozo and his buddy, decided they are smarter than a wile old battle scared human rights advocate/activist, who has grandchildren older and smarter.
 
Besides I'm an American who works in Canada, and Americans don't take lightly to the kind of non-sense being espoused by the new-age-nazi-wannabe's.
 
Please send us your link and we will have a look-see.
 
Best to you and all us humane free-speechers,
 
Steve
 
PS  Every time these guy's post, we are alerted and we document these kind of things, if you know what I mean.
 
these e-mail addresses go right to my computer,
 
 
 
 
__________________
 
 
Look you neo-Nazi jerk, regardless of whoever, or whatever you call your self.  We know you are 'not' who you say you are.
 
If you post to our DRA group, or to me personally again, trust me....I will swear out an "Information" with the R.C.M.P. on both you and your neo-Nazi buddy, and you "will be" charged for Criminal Harassment, and a few other Criminal offenses in Canada.     I suggest you follow my good advise ..... and just move on down the road, to where the other neo-Nazi hate mongers, will welcome you with open arms.  
 
I have warned you for the very last time, and I never bluff, however I do have a very long track record, for advising people when they step over the line of what is legal and what is not. (nudge, nudge, hint, hint?)
 
The future is up to you, but just remember this simple thought, what you and your neo-Nazi pals are doing, and attempting to do, in  relationship to our Human Rights work on the Internet, is a violation of International Law, U.S. Law, and the Canadian Criminal Code.
 
It "is" a Criminal Offense, not just offensive, so if we hear from you again, remember the Law has a very long arm, and we are no dummies, as you seem to think all people with disabilities are.
 
The rest is up to you, since we don't play these kind of silly games with you new-age-neo-Nazis, but we suspect that, just like your hero Adolf Hitler, you are simply too cowardly, and too stupid to take your own worthless life, until you have done your best to spread your poisonous lies, wherever your allowed.
 
Still want to play?
 
Steven Palmer ~DRA Advocate
DISABLED RIGHTS ALLIANCE
A Non-Government Organization
Victoria, British Columbia, Canada 
 
-------Original Message-------
 
Date: 12/20/05 18:37:13
Subject: Richard Scoville teams up with another N.U.T.
 
It's a shame that the people behind the DRA ng feel it is necessary to
hook up with Dick Scoville and spam USENET with the usual garbage. It
makes it very hard to gain support when Dick Scoville is associated
with anyone.
 
___________
 
Hi David,
 
Re: Ott. Gen group,
 
Thank you for responding with your concerns, we only wish more Canadians had your courage and respect for others.
 
The banning thing was a mix-up in communications, and was regretfully taken the wrong way.   We do have a number of different and differently-abled staff in our office, and we encourage all of our members to speak for all of us, the very purpose of the DRA's outreach program.    We apologize for any distress we inadvertently may have caused you and others in taking our more assertive approach to these matters.
 
As far as the other non-sense with the Scoville crowd (just my personal perspective, no offense intended) Some of these clowns, and there are several, have decided to attack and smear with insult the pro-active human rights work we do on the Internet, and we work in a number of groups, list's and blogs including the one where we picked up Mr. Scoville.  (who-ever he is or is not?) 
 
As a NGO we encourage people to utilize the information, news and dialogue we post and engage in with others, which is of course our very purpose: to promote the rights of Canadians with disabilities: and we are a Canadian effort to promote these rights, however our agenda is not to tell others what they may, or may not do with our posts, news and information.   
 
Like most of us with common sense, we assume others will take our position on disability issues the wrong way, and some will take them the "rights" way, which is what we are asserting our right to do.... by posting in this group.
 
We ask only to be given the opportunity to share our views with others.    We also know beyond any reasonable doubt, that disability issues are not popular with non-disabled Canadians, and we respect their right to hold such opinions; but we will no longer be told to be silent, submissive, obedient or polite. People with disabilities need to feel entitled to say no, if we are to protect ourselves.
 
As far as being victimized goes, no one has more of a right to claim that title in Canada, other than people with disabilities, however we work very hard to see that our members, clients and friends do NOT view us that way, as we assert out right to be treated with Equality & Respect by non-disabled Canadians.
 
Regards and Best of the Season,
 
Steven V. Palmer ~ DRA Advocate
 
 
-------Original Message-------
 
Date: 12/21/05 17:07:32
Subject: Usenet "Ban"
 
If I may ask, exactly HOW is any unmoderated usenet group banning your
participation (or is it just through Google)?
 
BTW, how did you end up being "featured" on the Freespeechstore.com website?
That's probably not a good thing.
 
For the record, I have several interests in the matter. As a matter of
disclosure:
 
1. I have been active in the Electronic Freedom Foundation for years and I
bristle when I hear of things like usenet group bans.
 
2. I am temporarily disabled (and have been since May of 2004).
 
3. I regard Mr. Scoville (Freespeechstore) as an extortionist and menace. Mr.
Wigel is a nitwit but he has been victimized.
 
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Monday Magazine, Victoria, B.C. Canada
February 25 - March 3, 1993
Vol. 19 No. 9
 
 
How Hate Spreads
 
 
And how a growing army of anti-racists in B.C. is marshalling to stop
it.
 
 
By Bruce Grierson
 
 
A brick is thrown through a window in Rostock, Germany, a cross is
burned on
a Mississippi lawn, and somehow, the sound of the glass and the light
of the
flames are heard, and felt, in British Columbia, Canada. What is the
physics
of hate, that it can transmit itself, through any medium, from one head
to
another, across time and space?
 
 
This is the story of the spread of the far right, the ideas and images
everyone thought died with Hitler in that bunker in Berlin. In the last
year
in Victoria, the last outpost of the Empire, neo-Nazi activity has been
the
unsettling focus of attention from school yards to the inner circles of
 
government. A mixed-race Fernwood couple has its car stickered with
racist
slogans. Swastikas are sprayed on brick walls. A group of white
supremecists
holds a secret gathering in Sooke. A high profile Holocaust denier,
barred
from entering the country, shows up anyway and speaks to a gathering at
a
downtown restaurant. The shock waves from a racist meeting in Vancouver
--
and the anti-racist force that rose up to smother it -- carry across
the
strait.
 
 
Poverty and strife cannot create hate, common wisdom holds, but they
can set
up the conditions to give it expression. While a deep recession
persists,
and the gulf between rich and poor widens, the net of social services
grows
thinner. Everyone looks for scapegoats. Meech Lake fails and then
Charlottetown fails, following a referendum campaign punctuated by
bigotry.
"Canada's problems would be solved if we shot all the Native people and
all
the Frenchmen," pronounced a guy who stood up to speak at a No campaign
 
rally in the Interior, and all around folks nodded their assent. In
Vancouver, three Asians driving upscale cars had their windows shot
out, in
separate incidents. Racist pamphlets are generated somewhere and sent
out
like chain letters everywhere -- photocopies and faxes having turned
every
basement into a potential publishing house -- and anti-racist pamphlets
are
dispatched in response. The output of literature is huge, yet the size
of
the racist ranks cannot be precisely determined. Some probable
overestimates
are reported, and -- like the overestimates of the size of the Iraqi
Republican Guard -- crank up the level of resolve. Allan Dutton, a
Simon
Fraser sociology prof and head of the B.C. Organization to Fight
Racism,
reports a significant increase in the number of calls to his own
office. He
regularly receives death threats, and messages from wingy anonymous
callers
warning of large-scale genocide, whole sections of the city doomed to
be
wiped out.
 
 
A potent engine drives both sides of this war. It is wrath -- a force
powerful enough to prevent the spread of fascism or, if handled
improperly,
fuel it. It was wrath that brought racist skinheads to the Century
Plaze
Hotel last month, at the bidding of Tom Metzger, to show support for
the
former Ku Klux Klan grand dragon and his white supremecist cause.
(Metzger
was billed as a speaker at a rally in Vancouver, but most observers
doubt he
ever left his home in California.) And wrath that prompted a
countervailing
force of 3,000 -- the largest anti-racism demonstration in the history
of
the province -- to show up downtown in protest. The peaceful
demonstration
turned scary when a splinter group a few hundred strong marched down
the
street to the hotel afterward, some carrying clubs and crowbars,
demanding
that the neo-Nazis be turned over to them.
 
 
"Racism is a cancer," says Dutton, using a now familiar, but somehow
still
apt metaphor. "A few abnormal cells you can ignore. But when they
become
malignant, you've got a problem."
 
 
What do malignant cells look like? Those who want an easy image will
find it
in the close-cropped, jack-booted skinheads, the poster boys of the far
 
right. Their look is fairly standard: the spring collection of '93 will
 
feature the same shaved heads, tattoos, nylon bomber jackets with
swastikas
or confederate flags or Celtic crosses, Doc Martens with coloured laces
 
(white for white supremacists, red for neo-Nazis, yellow for
cop-haters)
that have made such a statement in Hamburg and Milan. (The shoelace
code is
no longer as reliable as it once was: some Docs wearers unaligned with
white
supremacy will sometimes wear white laces on a whim.) Indeed, false
labelling has been a problem for a lot of the shaved-head crowd, who
would
no sooner wear a swastika than a mood ring. (It must be remembered that
the
skinhead subsulture is not, at its root, racist. The neo-Nazi movement
co-opted it in the late 1970's.) Members of the anti-hate group
SkinHeads
Against Racial Prejudice (SHARP) look to the average senior citizen
about as
threatening as their antagonists. For that matter, so do punks, who
ought to
be soul brothers of the racist skins (the punk and skinhead movements
sprouted from the same lower-class British roots) but instead are
preyed
upon no less than hippies, or skaters, or gays. Neo-Nazi skinheads have
no
trouble defining the enemy: anyone who is different from them. In
Victoria,
the racist skinheads have two magnetic norths -- one near the corner of
Bay
and Fernwood streets, the other in Esquimalt, near the Tim Horton's on
Esquimalt Road (a curious choice, given the great likelihood of a
police
presence at a donut shop).
 
 
The local skins have for years drawn inpiration from bellwethers like
Ted
Jones, a Fernwood skinhead who has led by example, distributing
pamphlets
and tacking up Aryan Resistance Movement posters and recruiting high
school
kids to carry the torch. (Most Victoria high schools have a token
skinhead
contingent, even if it's only a few kids).
 
 
The skin's brand of civil disobedience tends to be of the
fun-with-next-to-nothing variety: graffiti, broken windows, the odd
punchup
or flashed knife in a nightclub.
 
 
It's pretty straightforward stuff. And, like their ideology, the skins'
 
method of spreading the word is simple and direct. In a typical
recruitment
campaign, a couple of skins might pull up outside a high school grounds
and
crank up the tunes of, say, Screwdriver or No Remorse. It's riveting
(though
lyrically poisonous stuff -- British "Oi" music -- and in minutes
they've
got the kids' attention. Most kids don't bite. But a few, the loners,
the
peerless, hang around a little longer. The skins offer a haven of sorts
-- a
sense of belonging -- and a few pamphlets which the new emissaries then
 
distribute in the schools among their friends, and racist messages are
introduced into the student population the way flouride penetrates the
white
chalk on those TV commercials. So attractive is the power of belonging
to
some group, that in some cities native and Oriental kids have been
lured
into the cause, spreading hate messages directed partly at themselves.
 
 
Though they were seen last summer roving in groups of eight or 10, the
hard-core skins and bootwomen probably number no more than a few dozen
in
Victoria.
 
 
And they are, arguably, more yapa-dog than Rottweiler. They will not
talk to
the media. They will brawl, occasionally, but they have been poorly
organized and beset by their own problems and have failed to win much
support. In the Victorian underground band scene, they have been more
or
less shut out. No local alternative bands play Oi music, and virtually
all
have aligned themselves against the racists.
 
 
The skinheads have become a convenient outlet for the rage of
anti-racists,
both in Victoria and elsewhere. Yet the threat they pose is relatively
minor. They are merely, as Alan Dutton puts it "the storm troopers," a
rag-tag bunch who deflect attention from the more dangerous, though
less
visible, mouthpieces of the ultra-right.
 
 
Spread an original Aryan Nations map of North America out on the table
and
the first thing you'll notice is a shoeprint-shaped region superimposed
on
the Pacific Northwest. Inside the boundary are parts of Washington,
Oregon,
Montana, Idaho and, above the 49th parallel, the southern half of
Alberta
and a chunk of B.C., from the border west to about Kamloops. The Aryan
Nations "territorial imperative," at least as its racist leader Richard
 
Butler imagined it, was to carve up America, separating races into
homelands. The Pacific Northwest would be a whites-only enclave. "We
believe
in the geographic separation of races to ensure a safe and positive
environment for all people," reads a leaflet distributed recently in
Vancouver (and elsewhere) by the Aryan Resistance Movement (or A.R.M.),
a
white supremacist cousin of Aryan Nations and the K.K.K.
 
 
David Duke, the notorious former Klan grand wizard-turned-politician,
"was
especially enthusiastic about the prospects for White Supremacism in
B.C.,"
according to Stanley Barrett, author of 'Is God a Racist?', a careful
examination of the far right in Canada. Indeed, Duke was spoted in
Victoria
last year attending a Pacific Opera Production of 'Die Fledermaus,'
about
the same time as a limo bearing Washington, D.C.  KLAN 1 plates was
seen rolling through Duncan -- perhaps a coincidence.
 
 
Though the K.K.K. presence in this province has waxed and waned since
the
B.C. chapter was established 13 years ago, Duke would likely be pleased
at
the degree to which White Supremacist cells have remained and spread
their
message of hate.
 
 
Among the groups that are active in B.C., or have sent emissaries here
in
recent years:
 
 
* The British Commonwealth of Aryan Nations (headquartered in Hayden
Lake,
Idaho), with a B.C. chapter in Langley. Accourding to Dutton, this
group's
long-term plan is to destabilize government through carefully
orchestrated
terrorism, ultimately seizing power for themselves.
 
 
* The related Aryan Resistance Movement of B.C. (A.R.M.), headquarted
in
Surry, which undertook a heavy leafleting campaign last fall at some 14
 
mainland high schools. Also related is the White Aryan Resistance
movement,
which generates money for Tom Metzger to realize his vision. This group
 
produces the magazine "WAR," which turned up recently on the UBC
campus.
 
 
* The Church of the Creator: headquartered in North Carolina, and its
skinhead arm RaHoWa (Racial Holy War).
 
 
* The Christian Identity movement, a religion of sorts that unites
various
extremist factions.
 
 
* The White Knights of the K.K.K., which is reportedly recruiting on
the
Lower Mainland.
 
 
In aggregate, such far right groups are as different as body warts, yet
they
tend to share certain traits: they are anti-Semitic, anti-black,
anti-socialist, anti-foreign aid, anti-gay (Tony McAleer and others
have
talked openly about killing homosexuals). They are "scientific racists"
(who
believe white people are genetically superior) and, more often,
"theological
racists" (who believe the white race is ordained by God to rule). They
stand
united in the call for white power.
 
 
You've probably never seen a K.K.K. cross-burning, and perhaps you
never
will, at least in Victoria. White supremacist groups are less overtly
militant than they once were, emphasizing publicly, as Church of the
Creator
Ben Klassen put it: "We don't hate anyone; we just like white people."
Their
leaders are better dressed, better organized, and, in the main, better
educated than before. They openly refer to themselves as "racists," the
way
connoisseurs of jazz might call themselves "purists."
 
 
Like their skinhead foot soldiers, ultra-right groups seek converts
among
the disenfranchised, the confused and the angry -- blue-collar types
denied
jobs by the recession and affirmative action hiring policies, and
looking
for someone to pin the blame on. "Our racial heritage is our most
precious
possession," proclaims a leaflet from the Surrey-based A.R.M. "There's
still
time to thawrt the planned destruction of white culture."
 
 
The sophistry of their arguments is predictable: They begin with a few
statements most would agree are more or less true (the poor are
becoming
poorer; crime is on the rise; Vancouver is beset by Asian and Hispanic
street gangs; affordable rental housing has diminished.) Then they
identify
a cause for the mess we're in -- specifically, in the case of this
A.R.M.
leaflet, Canada's immigration policies. "The multicultural melting-pot
theory has been forced down the throats of people for decades in the
U.S.
and Europe. You can now see what years of forced integration has done
to
their cities. Forced racial integration doesn't work." And, for good
measure, emotional appeals: "Do you care about the future of your
children?"
 
 
Exactly how many ultra-rights are among us is hard to say. Estimates of
 
10,000 or more in B.C. are regularly trotted out, but are probably
inflated.
David Lethbridge, head of the Salmon Arm Coaltion Against Racism,
estimates
perhaps 5,000 peopole in Canada are directly connected to white
supremacist
groups, with perhaps another 55,000 providing "soft support."
 
 
"The soft supporters are of greater concern to us," says Lethbridge.
"They
don't belong to any membership lists. They don't wear robes. But they
receive the literature and perhaps contribute money."
 
 
An anti-Semitic publication produced by one organization alone -- the
Council of Public Affairs -- has a subscription base of 12,000,
Lethbridge
says.
 
 
Funding for the ultra-right comes from membership dues, purchase of
literature, donations of wealthy private individuals in the shadows
and,
finally, some corporations.
 
 
Jud Cyllorn, one-time astrologer for Bill Vander Zalm and now a
bookstore
owner in Vancouver, sent a copy of his racist tome 'Stop Apologizing'
to
every MLA and MP in the country at his own expense. "Here's thousands
of
dollars being spent to promote hate," says Dutton, "and this is in B.C.
--
its home-grown."
 
 
Apart from promoting or attending the odd Century-Plaza-like
media-event,
far right disciples tend to go about their business quietly, like
crocodiles
beneath the surface of a still pond.
 
 
David Lethbridge had no idea what the right-wing Council of Public
Affairs
was up to in his town of Salmon Arm until he stumbled upon a notice for
a
leadership meeting. A little digging turned up a rogue's gallery of
infamous
visitors that the council, in step with the Canadian League of Rights
(which
Lethbridge calls "Canada's largest anti-Semitic organization"), had
arranged
to bring into town -- among them, Eustace Mullins, the Klan-connected
speaker from Virginia; Richard Butler of Aryan Nations; Jack Mohr,
leader of
the Christian Identity movement; and a number of high-profile
Canadians,
including holocaust-deniers Jim Keegstra of Alberta and Malcolm Ross of
New
Brunswick.
 
 
Through a spirited and very public campaign, Lethbridge and his
anti-racism
coalition have successfully halted much of the anti-Semitic traffic in
that
town. But in Salmon Arm, as in Victoria, racists find new ways to get
the
word out.
 
 
David Irving calls himself a historian, possibly because few others
will.
The British author, convicted in Germany of denying the Nazi
extermination
of Jews (such a denial is against the law there) caused a brief stir
when he
showed up illegally in Canada and gave a speech at Victoria's Jade
Palace
restaurant in October. After a short hearing he was deported, cutting
short
his planned speaking tour. A video of the Victoria speech substituted
for
him at other stops on the tour.
 
 
There's one reason Irving, and others who hold similar beliefs, have
made
Victoria one of their favourite Canadian stopover points -- and it's
not the
mild weather.
 
 
It's Doug Christie. Under the banner of the protection of free speech,
the
"battling barrister" has gone to the stump for some of the ;most
notorious
members of the fringe and far-right.
 
 
In 1985 Christie founded the Canadian Free Speech League, to raise
money
for
those accused of thought and word crimes in Canada." It was the Free
Speech
League that sponsored Irving's visit and other speaking engagements by
such
noteworthy characters as schoolteachers Jim Keegstra (convicted of
willfully
promoting hatred against Jews through his lectures) and
Toronto graphic artist Ernst Zundel(whose conviction for knowingly
publishing false
news about the Holocaust was recently overturned).
 
 
(Raising money through lecturing engagements of high-profile speakers
was
also a favoured strategy of David Duke, who generated hundreds of
thousands
of dollars for the K.K.K. through donations and book and tape sales.)
 
 
Keegstra and Zundel became clients of Christie's along with former
Western
Guard Leader John Ross Taylor of Toronto (jailed for playing
anti-Semitic
messages on his answering machine) Malcolm Ross, and Imre Finta, the
former
Hungarian gendarme captain charged and acquitted in Canada's first war
crimes trial.
 
 
Christie, who works out of a tiny converted parking attendant's booth
adjacent to the Royal Theatre, has associated over the years with an
arm-long list of far-right groups, including the Canadian League of
Rights,
the Alliance for the Preservation of English in Canada (APEC), Citizens
for
Foreign Aid Reform (a Torono-based anti-immigration group), the
Institute
for Historical Review (a California-based revisionist organization),
the
Canadian Association for Free Expression.
 
 
If Christie has earned himself a national reputation for defending the
indefensible, he has also attracted the growing public suspicion that
he's
sympathetic of the views of the clients he defends.
 
 
It was not surprising, then, to see Christie come to the defense of
Tony
McAleer, whose Canadian Liberty Net hot line had been slapped with a
Federal
Court of Canada injunction last summer, based on complaints that its
operators were using it to spread hate messages. Christie, of course,
argued
the case as a Charter issue -- that the court's denying the use of
phone
lines is unconstitutional. The court still hasn't ruled on the case.
After
the phone line was shut down in Vancouver, it moved briefly to
Bellingham,
and is now operating again in Surrey, with Tony McAleer still at the
strings, and a number of anti-racist groups carefully monitoring the
content.
 
 
Liberty Net has, since its inception in October of 1991, been a quick
and
efficient jungle telegraph of anti-Semitic thought. In an age when you
can
dial a joke or dial a prayer, it's not surprising that you can dial a
racist
message -- or leave one of your own, as have such folks as Wolfgang
Droege
of the Toronto-based Heritage Front, Janice Long (wife of Aryan Nations
 
leader Terry Long) and Ernst Zundel.
 
 
David Irving's Victoria speaking engagement was publicized on Liberty
Net,
as was Tom Metzger's supposed appearance in Vancouver. Tony McAleer
claims
to have organized the Century Plaza Hotel rally, via Liberty Net and
word of
mouth, for just a hundred dollars.
 
 
Both sides can, of course, play the communications game. As the far
right
grows more sophisticated in its networking, anti-facist groups appear
to be
matching or exceeding the effort, fax for fax, phone line for phone
line,
electronic mail message for electronic mail message.
 
 
Two weeks ago Victoria's fledgling Anti-Nazi Alliance set up the city's
 
first anti-Nazi hotline, a magnet for information on local neo-Nazi
activity
and a source of aid for those in trouble. Anyone who thinks they're
being
followed, or needs help pressing charges against skinheads or
neo-Nazis, can
call the hotline at 598-9197. The phone line, founded by two young
Victorians who prefer not to reveal their names for rear of reprisal,
is
staffed by volunteers who are in regular contact with, among other
groups,
the Anti-Fascist League in Edmonton -- which has been remarkably
effective
at driving neo-Nazis and racist skinheads out of that city.
 
 
Both David Lethbridge's anti-racism coalition and Allan Dutton's B.C.
Organization to Fight Racism work closely with the Montgomery,
Alabama-based
Klanwatch, a well-connected anti-racist information gathering agency,
whose
biggest contribution has been to get civil court convictions against
the
K.K.K., and key players such as Tom Metzger, all of which has
financially
crippled the Klan and tied up its leaders in litigation.
 
 
In Salmon Arm, David Lethbridge's group will sponsor a conference next
month
to develop an anti-racist network throughout the province. In Victoria,
 
organizers of a planned race relations committe hope to get municipal
and
provincial funding for a full-time co-ordinator's position. (Much
hinges on
a C.R.D. vote this Wednesday, Feb. 24.)
 
 
In the town of Cassidey  just south of Nanaimo, a man named Ken McVay
is quietly making what may prove to be the biggest local contribution
of all
to the anti-racist effort.
 
 
McVay, who worked the graveyard shift at a local gasbar until a car
accident
laid him up a month ago, has devoted the last year and a half to
assembling
databases within the Free Net computer network, part of an electronic
service accessible to anyone in the world with a personal computer and
a
modem. A 52-year-old self-confessed "cyberspace junkie" and "creature
of the
nets," McVay came across Holocaust denial material while browsing one
day on
his system.
 
 
"At first it seemed like some kind of ugly, tasteless joke," he says,
"but I
slowly came to realize that these bastards were for real." He began
building
a Holocaust archive, which spawned a second archive on fascist and
neo-Nazi
activity worldwide. "I started spending eight or 10 hours a day at the
computer, putting in citations and giving authors credit,
cross-referencing
activities in Germany with the U.S. I worked harder when I realized it
was
pissing them off." ("They" began leaving hate messages and death
threats in
the system for McVay). The files now contain about 10 megabytes (about
two
million words) of text. Much of it was typed in by McVay himself, who
has
developed tendonitis for his efforts.
 
 
The benefit of McVay's work is that anti-racist groups who have access
to
the Free Net system can share and build on his information.
 
 
A couple of Victoria Free Net users, who discovered him through the
system,
have talked about trying to subsidize McVay in his work, perhaps buying
him
an optical scanner to spare his typing fingers.
 
 
Free Net has been available since November in Victoria. Last week the
downtown library opened up the first public access terminal.
 
 
And so the communication networks hum, and the stakes rise on both
sides.
Allan Dutton believes that Tony McAleer,  the Tom Metzger frontman, has
 
suffered "serious credibility problems" as a result of the botched
rally at
the Century Plaza Hotel. "He'll have to do something violent (to get
back
that credibility) or be replaced," says Dutton. "We're worried."
 
 
Many of the anti-racists have braced themselves to fight on the same
level.
"The anti-Nazis are committed to using extra-legal tactics -- and
violence
-- against the Nazis," one of the founders of the Victoria anti-Nazi
Alliance proclaims.
 
 
Following the storming of the Century Plaza hotel, the Trotskyist
League,
which participated in the anti-racist "after-rally," published a
triumphant
account of the squashed racist demonstation -- the "victory we won in
the
streets."
 
 
An anti-racist, anti-sexist leaflet circulating in town at the moment
makes
some similarly ominous noises. Issue through the offices of the "John
Brown
Anti-Klan Committee" in San Francisco, the flyer includes a little
passage
called "Kicking the Cops Out":
 
 
"There can be no illusion about the purpose of the police. They are
just
another instrument of the racist ruling class to keep the rest of
society
from threatening their power. They are not a neutral force, and do not
exist
to protect us. They are tools of the state essential in keeping power
in the
hands of white male corporate America. We cannot and will not accept
this."
 
 
The danger inherent in such scenarios seems clear. Militants like the
Anti-Klan Committee, who inhabith the finges of the anti-racist
movement, do
little for the cause. They are largely perceived as vigilante squads,
no
less frightening than their foes.
 
 
To hold the upper hand, the anti-racist side will have to be organized
and
disciplined, leaning on the strength of their numbers, the solidity of
their
arguments. ("Violence is the last resot of the incompetent," says James
 
McQuirter, the Canadian Klansman later jailed for, among other things,
plotting to overthrow the Dominican Republic.
 
 
"A lot of these racist groups thrive on the image of respectability,"
says
David Lethbridge. "They want to be debated seriously. But to make any
such
debate lends them a credability they don't deserve." To make that
point,
Lethbridge did something which earned him a lot of discrediting press.
Showing up for a meeting of the Council on Public Affairs, Lethbridge
and a
student noticed someone videotaping them from inside a nearby car. They
 
approached the car, turned around and dropped their pants -- creating
footage destined to be shown repeatedly at council gatherings.
 
 
The messages Liberty Net traffics in are more subtle now, its users
careful
not to promote hatred against an identifiable group. They do not want
to see
the phone shut down.
 
 
Of course, even if Liberty Net were to be closed, the ultra-right would
 
still find ways of communicating with one another, and with the
as-yet-unconverted.
 
 
Understandably, those who are repulsed by what they say have trouble
defending their right to say it. Indeed, the free speech debate has
been
among the stickiest issue legislators and anti-racist groups have
faced. Can
you avoid the spread of hate without putting up barriers to free
expression?
Can you tighten the criminal law without impinging on civil liberites?
Can
censorship be defended in a democracy?
 
 
Allan Dutton believes that the messages peddled by the far right are
exclusive, rather than inclusive, and therefor anti-democratic by
definition. "Racism is about power and privilege," says Dutton. "These
people (white supremacists, anti-Semites and the like) are facists.
They
want to deny people -- deny you -- dmeocractic rights.
 
 
True democracy, believes Dutton, can only occur when the power balance
has
been redressed. "The way to overcome racism is to ensure the full
participation of everyone. If we don't make sure we have full
protection for
people, they won't have an equal footing. You have to start from the
premise
of equality. After that comes freedom of speech."
 
 
The media pepetually struggles with the question of whether to report
the
views of extremists, thus giving them a forum for their views, or shut
them
out and ignore their ranting. One school of thought holds that given an
 
opportunity to speak, noe-Nazis and white supremacists will hang
themselves,
with goss historical inaccuracies, pretzel logic or their own caustic
bigotry. Indeed, it's hard to imagine a better way to discredit the
Christian Identity movement than by allowing its leader, Jack Mohr, to
speak
his peace, as he did in the documentary film 'Blood on the Face.'
"We're in
the opening stages of World War Three right now," said Mohr, "Our
military
knows that there's a force of at least 35,000 Viet Cong operating in
the
wilds of British Columbia.
 
 
[Research assistance by Andrew Jackson.]
=30=
Source:  Shofar FTP Archive File:
orgs/canadian/council-public-affairs/press/monday-magazine.030393
Posted by,
DISABLED RIGHTS ALLIANCE
A Non-Government Organization
Victoria, British Columbia, Canada
 
 
" Nothing About Us, Without Us....In The Internet Global Village "
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Add FUN to your email - CLICK HERE!

NetPI

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Steven..

Detective Reuter is no longer in Homicide. Wigle's case is now being
handled by two detectives...

(b) Lead Detective (Homicide)..Larry McGee phone 210-207-2320
email..lmcgee@sanantonio.gov
(c) Computer Crimes..Brian Padier phone 210-207-23127
email..bpadier@sanantonio.gov


Update...Here is all you need to know about Marc Wigle aka
marc...@wigle.ca, mwi...@virtual.ca, freespeech...@yahoo.ca
(removed by Yahoo), etc. forger of the "Scoville" name, poster of
FILTH, Libel, Salicious Material, etc. and the people who want to hear
from you so the SLIME is taken care of.. By the way, he will be sued
just as other abusers of the net have by FSS. i.e....
http://www.co.bexar.tx.us/webapps/html/DKLITDSP02.asp?txtLitIsn=0004066070

Marc I. Wigle, aka freespeech...@yahoo.ca,

http://groups.google.com/groups?enc_author=IW0flR4AAABKqdj1_pzV5AGhuA2RTE5KFCLWCRve2cyqK_PK5uWYOA&scoring=d&hl=en

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22marc+wigle%22&btnG=Google+Search

(1) Posting...
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.www.webmaster/msg/a93fbfc36cecdb40...
NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.26.165.195

(2) His posting below...
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.celebrities/msg/9eccbb3571b61aed?h...
NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.26.165.232

Both from Magma Communications Ltd. his ISP and both by this Sexual
Deviant! This is just a PUNK and CRIMINAL FORGER harbored by Primus
Telecommunications (PRTL), CEO K.Paul Singh, General Counsel, Walter
Stone.
See below for full details...


Marc I. Wigle, aka freespeech...@yahoo.ca, marc...@wigle.ca,
mwi...@virtual-impact.ca, onebigfri...@hotmail.com (handle for
this email "Big Friggin' Dude), FSS kil...@hotmail.com, "Whatever..."
(handle for marc...@wigle.ca),etc. forges under the name of "Robert
W. Scoville Sr." to harass Richard Scoville and freespeechstore.com
(FSS) for turning this guy and his wife into the Gatineau Police and
her place of employment, Ottawa-Carleton District School Board, for
sexual deviancies, i.e., the solicitation of SODOMY, posting of Filth
(Necrophilia, Pedophilia, Bestiality, etc.) but all is noted for future
litigation.
Here is all you need to know about this PERVERT & his wife..

Contact these folks if you do want the young children of Canada
"exposed" to Wigle and his wife, an employee of this district!

(1) School Board


(a) Chair of Ottawa-Carleton District School Board
Lynn Graham phone 613-730-3366; email: lynn....@ocdsb.ca


(b) Mr. Dan Wiseman
Coordinator of Safe Schools
and Community Outreach
Ottawa-Carleton District School Board
133 Greenbank Road
Nepean Ontario
K2H 6l3
dan_w...@ocdsb.edu.on.ca
613-596-8728


(2) Gatineau police..open file on Wigle & his wife Susan


(a) Detective Marcel Guimond phone..819-243-2345 ext 6004
email..guimond.marcel@ville.gatineau.qc.ca
(b) Sgt Michael Morin phone.. 819-243-2345 ext 6020
email..morin.michel@ville.gatineau.qc.ca

(3) San Antonio Police Department (SAPD) Ongoing & Open Investigation
Under Police report # 05468667
(a) Homicide Supervisor..Mark Witherell phone 210-207-7635
email..mwitherell@sanantonio.gov
(b) Lead Detective (Homicide)..Larry McGee phone 210-207-2320
email..lmcgee@sanantonio.gov
(c) Computer Crimes..Brian Padier phone 210-207-23127
email..bpadier@sanantonio.gov

(4) Ottawa Media Investigating Marc & Susan Wigle

(a) Paul Brent..Investigative Reporter
C/O CTV
phone..613-274-4302
email:ottaw...@ctv.ca

(b) Gary Dimmock..Ottawa Citizen Investigative reporter sex crimes

phone 613-794-2267;cell 613-794-2267 & fax 613.726.1198
Ottawa Citizen
1101 Baxter Road, P.O. BOX 5020
Ottawa, Ontario K2C 3M4, CANADA
Web site...http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/index.html
email..gdimmock@thecitizen.canwest.com

(5) San Antonio Media...

San Antonio Express-News
http://www2.mysanantonio.com/aboutus/expressnews/columnists/
Editor..rrivard@express-news.net
SNo...@express-news.net ;
bcha...@express-news.net..police beat


(6) General Counsel at Primus Telecommunications Group (PRTL) parent
company of his ISP magma.ca...
Phone: 703-902-2800
Walter Stone..email: wst...@primustel.com

(7) His ISP
magma.ca...http://www1.magma.ca/corporate/hosting/virtual/acceptable.cfm

(a) A.J. Byers CEO Magma.ca..email..ajbyers@magma.ca
(b) ab...@magma.ca
(c) sup...@magma.ca
(d) david....@magma.ca

(8) Executives At Primus Telecommunications Group (PRTL)..Magma's
parent company located in the U.S.

Titles, phone numbers, and positions available
here...http://finance.yahoo.com/q/pr?s=PRTL

tdev...@primustel.ca, Attorney for magma.ca
le...@primustel.com,
tla...@primustel.com,
tchi...@primustel.ca,
psi...@primustel.com, Chairman
jdepo...@primustel.com, President
tklo...@primustel.com,
nha...@primustel.com,
wst...@primustel.com (see above)

(9)Google..for Usenet (newsgroups abuse)
Founder..larry.page@google.com
Founder. serge...@google.com
ab...@google.com ; groups-...@google.com ;

(10) Municipal Council Members ville de Gatineau. Pay particular
attention to Frank Thérien! These folks need to know about the Vermin
in their community!


http://ville.gatineau.qc.ca/Urbanisme/districts/district1.pdf
http://ville.gatineau.qc.ca/conseil.htm#membres

therie...@ville.gatineau.qc.ca
laframbo...@ville.gatineau.qc.ca
riel....@ville.gatineau.qc.ca
pilon...@ville.gatineau.qc.ca
martin....@ville.gatineau.qc.ca
poirier...@ville.gatineau.qc.ca
philion...@ville.gatineau.qc.ca
laferrie...@ville.gatineau.qc.ca
racine...@ville.gatineau.qc.ca
tasse...@ville.gatineau.qc.ca
anger...@ville.gatineau.qc.ca
desylva...@ville.gatineau.qc.ca
cote.r...@ville.gatineau.qc.ca
desjardi...@ville.gatineau.qc.ca
bouche...@ville.gatineau.qc.ca
montre...@ville.gatineau.qc.ca
houle.j...@ville.gatineau.qc.ca
burea...@ville.gatineau.qc.ca
ma...@ville.gatineau.qc.ca cour.mu...@ville.gatineau.qc.ca
in...@ville.gatineau.qc.ca

More on Wigle...

http://groups.google.com/groups?enc_author=IW0flR4AAABKqdj1_pzV5AGhuA2RTE5KFCLWCRve2cyqK_PK5uWYOA&scoring=d&hl=en

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.skeptic/msg/d57a12b1ed52200a?hl=en

http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&q=%22Marc+I.+Wigle%22&qt_s=Search

http://groups.google.com/group/sat.general/msg/5800c1918df65118?hl=en

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=marc+wigle&btnG=Google+Search

http://groups.google.com/group/sat.general/msg/beceb525accd65f4?hl=en

http://groups.google.com/groups?enc_author=Zx7xzhIAAABnpBFZ-kOBtSmoUrJg5J13a-o86qnWqi4QtyUzzs6lJg&scoring=d&hl=en

http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&q=mwi...@virtual-impact.ca&qt_s=Search

http://www.virtual-impact.ca/

http://freespeechstore.com/


Marc I Wigle & Company Ltd., Virtual Impact Inc., The Tax Man


Much more upon request...

=================================================================

> remember the Law has a very long arm, and we are no dummies, as you seem to
> think all people with disabilities are.
>
> The rest is up to you, since we don't play these kind of silly games with
> you new-age-neo-Nazis, but we suspect that, just like your hero Adolf Hitler

> you are simply too cowardly, and too stupid to take your own worthless life

> which is what we are asserting our right to do.... by posting in this group
>
>

Steven Palmer

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Jan 13, 2006, 4:27:42 PM1/13/06
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Right now we are very busy getting ready for upcoming meetings with the provincial government, regarding the deaths of several thousand people with disabilities in British Columbia.  
 
These Canadian racists like Wigle & Co....are really  more of a pain in lower extremities, than any serious threat to anyone but themselves.
 
Our Vice-President is a Canadian Lawyer, and other members of out organization are equally qualified, however we are doing best we can to provide the information the local authorities, (who know us) have recently asked us to document (Witness Statement) for their investigation.
 
We thought the only people still posting to the DRA on this list, were the Wigle crew, as we moved our other members to another group that is by invitation only now, thanks to these clowns.
 
If you would like to help us out by forwarding any information posted to this list, where you think it might do some good, you certainly have our blessings to do so.    After we have more time, there was one of our friends who is apparently quite proficient with spammers like Wigle & Co. who has offered to help, but that may not be for a few weeks when we are less busy.
 
Regards,
 
DISABLED RIGHTS ALLIANCE
 
 
 
-------Original Message-------

Don...@gmail.com

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Jan 13, 2006, 7:39:29 PM1/13/06
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Steven Palmer wrote:
> Right now we are very busy getting ready for upcoming meetings with the
> provincial government, regarding the deaths of several thousand people with
> disabilities in British Columbia.
>
> These Canadian racists like Wigle & Co....are really more of a pain in
> lower extremities, than any serious threat to anyone but themselves.
>
Show proof that Wigle is a racist, I am not aware that flaming somebody
on usenet is racist

> Our Vice-President is a Canadian Lawyer, and other members of out
> organization are equally qualified, however we are doing best we can to
> provide the information the local authorities, (who know us) have recently
> asked us to document (Witness Statement) for their investigation.
>

I would say that the Victoria Police have little jurisdiction over
Google and Flame Wars

> We thought the only people still posting to the DRA on this list, were the
> Wigle crew, as we moved our other members to another group that is by
> invitation only now, thanks to these clowns.
>
> If you would like to help us out by forwarding any information posted to
> this list, where you think it might do some good, you certainly have our
> blessings to do so. After we have more time, there was one of our friends
> who is apparently quite proficient with spammers like Wigle & Co. who has
> offered to help, but that may not be for a few weeks when we are less busy.
>
> Regards,
>
> DISABLED RIGHTS ALLIANCE

Like known Internet k00k Richard Scoville will be of any help. He is a
MORON.

>
>
>
> -------Original Message-------
>
> From: NetPI
> Date: 01/13/06 12:36:02
> To: DISABLED RIGHTS ALLIANCE
> Subject: How To Report Marc Wigle Of Gatineau, Canada For Internet Abuse
>
> Steven..
>
> Detective Reuter is no longer in Homicide. Wigle's case is now being
> handled by two detectives...
>
> (b) Lead Detective (Homicide)..Larry McGee phone 210-207-2320
> email..lmcgee@sanantonio.gov
> (c) Computer Crimes..Brian Padier phone 210-207-23127
> email..bpadier@sanantonio.gov
>
>
> Update...Here is all you need to know about Marc Wigle aka
> marc...@wigle.ca, mwi...@virtual.ca, freespeech...@yahoo.ca
> (removed by Yahoo), etc. forger of the "Scoville" name, poster of
> FILTH, Libel, Salicious Material, etc. and the people who want to hear
> from you so the SLIME is taken care of.. By the way, he will be sued
> just as other abusers of the net have by FSS. i.e....
> http://www.co.bexar.tx.us/webapps/html/DKLITDSP02.asp?txtLitIsn=0004066070
>
> Marc I. Wigle, aka freespeech...@yahoo.ca,
>
> http://groups.google

> com/groups?enc_author=IW0flR4AAABKqdj1_pzV5AGhuA2RTE5KFCLWCRve2cyqK_PK5uWYOA&

> bcha...@express-news.net..police beat

> com/groups?enc_author=IW0flR4AAABKqdj1_pzV5AGhuA2RTE5KFCLWCRve2cyqK_PK5uWYOA&
> coring=d&hl=en
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.skeptic/msg/d57a12b1ed52200a?hl=en
>
> http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&q=%22Marc+I

> com/groups?enc_author=Zx7xzhIAAABnpBFZ-kOBtSmoUrJg5J13a-o86qnWqi4QtyUzzs6lJg&

> or
> > > > > damage control... for want of a better more descriptive term
> > > > >
> > > > > And also why there have been more than 6,000 adult deaths and more
> > than
> > > > 700
> > > > > children dead, all under the care or control of the provincial
> > government
> > > > in
> > > > > the last 32 months in British Columbia alone. The fact's never lie
>

> or
> > > > > damage control... for want of a better more descriptive term
> > > > >
> > > > > And also why there have been more than 6,000 adult deaths and more
> > than
> > > > 700
> > > > > children dead, all under the care or control of the provincial
> > government
> > > > in
> > > > > the last 32 months in British Columbia alone. The fact's never lie
>

Don...@gmail.com

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Jan 13, 2006, 7:40:11 PM1/13/06
to DISABLED RIGHTS ALLIANCE

Steven Palmer wrote:
> Right now we are very busy getting ready for upcoming meetings with the
> provincial government, regarding the deaths of several thousand people with
> disabilities in British Columbia.
>
> These Canadian racists like Wigle & Co....are really more of a pain in
> lower extremities, than any serious threat to anyone but themselves.
>
Show proof that Wigle is a racist, I am not aware that flaming somebody
on usenet is racist

> Our Vice-President is a Canadian Lawyer, and other members of out


> organization are equally qualified, however we are doing best we can to
> provide the information the local authorities, (who know us) have recently
> asked us to document (Witness Statement) for their investigation.
>

I would say that the Victoria Police have little jurisdiction over
Google and Flame Wars

> We thought the only people still posting to the DRA on this list, were the


> Wigle crew, as we moved our other members to another group that is by
> invitation only now, thanks to these clowns.
>
> If you would like to help us out by forwarding any information posted to
> this list, where you think it might do some good, you certainly have our
> blessings to do so. After we have more time, there was one of our friends
> who is apparently quite proficient with spammers like Wigle & Co. who has
> offered to help, but that may not be for a few weeks when we are less busy.
>
> Regards,
>
> DISABLED RIGHTS ALLIANCE

Like known Internet k00k Richard Scoville will be of any help. He is a
MORON.

>
>
>


> -------Original Message-------
>
> From: NetPI
> Date: 01/13/06 12:36:02
> To: DISABLED RIGHTS ALLIANCE
> Subject: How To Report Marc Wigle Of Gatineau, Canada For Internet Abuse
>
> Steven..
>
> Detective Reuter is no longer in Homicide. Wigle's case is now being
> handled by two detectives...
>
> (b) Lead Detective (Homicide)..Larry McGee phone 210-207-2320
> email..lmcgee@sanantonio.gov
> (c) Computer Crimes..Brian Padier phone 210-207-23127
> email..bpadier@sanantonio.gov
>
>
> Update...Here is all you need to know about Marc Wigle aka
> marc...@wigle.ca, mwi...@virtual.ca, freespeech...@yahoo.ca
> (removed by Yahoo), etc. forger of the "Scoville" name, poster of
> FILTH, Libel, Salicious Material, etc. and the people who want to hear
> from you so the SLIME is taken care of.. By the way, he will be sued
> just as other abusers of the net have by FSS. i.e....
> http://www.co.bexar.tx.us/webapps/html/DKLITDSP02.asp?txtLitIsn=0004066070
>
> Marc I. Wigle, aka freespeech...@yahoo.ca,
>
> http://groups.google

> com/groups?enc_author=IW0flR4AAABKqdj1_pzV5AGhuA2RTE5KFCLWCRve2cyqK_PK5uWYOA&

> bcha...@express-news.net..police beat

> http://groups.google
> com/groups?enc_author=IW0flR4AAABKqdj1_pzV5AGhuA2RTE5KFCLWCRve2cyqK_PK5uWYOA&
> coring=d&hl=en
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.skeptic/msg/d57a12b1ed52200a?hl=en
>
> http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&q=%22Marc+I
> +Wigle%22&qt_s=Search
>

> com/groups?enc_author=Zx7xzhIAAABnpBFZ-kOBtSmoUrJg5J13a-o86qnWqi4QtyUzzs6lJg&

> or
> > > > > damage control... for want of a better more descriptive term
> > > > >
> > > > > And also why there have been more than 6,000 adult deaths and more
> > than
> > > > 700
> > > > > children dead, all under the care or control of the provincial
> > government
> > > > in
> > > > > the last 32 months in British Columbia alone. The fact's never lie
>

> or
> > > > > damage control... for want of a better more descriptive term
> > > > >
> > > > > And also why there have been more than 6,000 adult deaths and more
> > than
> > > > 700
> > > > > children dead, all under the care or control of the provincial
> > government
> > > > in
> > > > > the last 32 months in British Columbia alone. The fact's never lie
>

Disabled Rights Alliance

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Jan 13, 2006, 7:57:00 PM1/13/06
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Your stupidity Don.... is only exceeded by your lack of knowledge regarding the the rule of law in Canada.
 
Get a life... and kindly quit wasting good electrons with your racist remarks, you are not dealing with nit-wits like your Canadian pal Wigle.
 
We have already initiated a criminal complaint against all of you, however if you want to keep digging a hole for yourselves... be our guest!
 
Only the Victoria Police, the RCMP, the DRA and the Crown Counsel will be reading these posts anyway!
 
DRA 
 
-------Original Message-------
>      bchasnoff@express-news.net..police beat

NetPI

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Jan 13, 2006, 9:05:11 PM1/13/06
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Steven...

His name is not Don, but Darrell! Here is how to report him...

Darrell A. Larose (darrelllarose.ca)..Self Portrait Of An Internet
CyberStalker, PUNK. Stay Clear of this Cyber Punk & Unprofessional
Photographer now posting to Usenet through NNTP usenetexchange.com, as
well as Rogers (rogers,com)! Located in Ottawa, he is harbored by
Rogers Communications (RG). His abusive posts usually have the
fingerprint to post follow-ups to dev/null. Through his many aliases,
sock puppets, forgeries, etc, this Vermin attempts to defame,
disparage, libel, etc. others by impersonating them through
obfuscation! This will be updated expeditiously upon new knowledge of
this PUNK's abuse!

More below...

http://groups.google.com/group/Where-To-Report-Darrell-A-Larose-darrelllaroseca-CyberStalker?lnk=li

http://darrelllarose.ca/
http://darrelllarose.ca/welcome.htm
http://www.darrelllarose.ca/gallery/Darrell1
http://www.darrelllarose.ca/gallery/Darrell1?page=2
http://www.darrelllarose.ca/gallery/fun

Above, the Vermin's own pictures of his dufus looking self! He is
presently posting in Usenet as "Nomen Nescio" (nob...@dizum.com),
"Darrell" (sp...@this.eh), "FreeSpee...@aol.com"
(Don...@gmail.com), "Mala Ipsa Nova" (Matt...@yahoo.com),
"Interested" (jim_ro...@yahoo.com), "Darrell A. Larose"
(ad...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA), "Darrell" (cot...@rogers.com),
geof...@hotmail.com, and now possibly jerry...@gmail.com through
various IP addresses, via exploitable servers. More at
freespeechstore.com and at...


http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&start=0&scoring=d&enc_author=Uv8V2AwAAACJrZwMqhB6TWkpl2VH0gTy&hl=en&

http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&q=darrell+larose&qt_s=Search

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=darrell++larose+nomen&start=0&scoring=d&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&

http://groups.google.com/groups?as_q=&num=10&scoring=d&hl=en&as_epq=&as_oq=&as_eq=&as_ugroup=&as_usubject=&as_uauthors=cot...@rogers.com+&lr=&as_drrb=q&as_qdr=&as_mind=1&as_minm=1&as_miny=1981&as_maxd=24&as_maxm=12&as_maxy=2005&safe=off

http://groups.google.com/groups?as_q=&num=10&scoring=d&hl=en&as_epq=&as_oq=&as_eq=&as_ugroup=&as_usubject=&enc_author=&as_uauthors=ad...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA+&lr=&as_drrb=q&as_qdr=&as_mind=1&as_minm=1&as_miny=1981&as_maxd=24&as_maxm=12&as_maxy=2005&safe=off

http://groups.google.com/groups?enc_author=TQGYiBUAAABzLdMaxAUpJ8k044no1uQC9h3i3SmjGmAJbX05nZ-8fQ&scoring=d&hl=en

http://groups.google.com/groups?enc_author=axk3EhQAAABp-sdaqIF0f19TIW_mPjKGOPANdqfI6prRsqjc7uCt1A&scoring=d

Pick Darrell out of these...

http://groups.google.com/groups?enc_author=FY92WBAAAADksonacKzRooMggY6J-oyf&scoring=d&hl=en

Report him to:

(1) ab...@cybersurf.com

(2) postm...@usenetexchange.com

(3 net-...@hosteurope.de

(4) Rogers Communication Family & Abuse...
More on titles phone numbers etc...http://finance.yahoo.com/q/pr?s=RG

ab...@rogers.com;
edward...@rci.rogers.com;
melinda...@rci.rogers.com;
edward....@rci.rogers.com;
mary.t...@rci.rogers.com

(5) Google Groups...Re: [#35227650] & [#35227582]
ab...@google.com;
groups-...@google.com;
larry...@google.com; FOUNDER
serge...@google.com FOUNDER


(6) Gmail-Re: [#41695102], [#41695104] ...

gmail-...@google.com
ab...@gmail.com

(7) Frell & other ISPs, remailers, etc...

ab...@frell.theremailer.net
mail...@nym.alias.net
ad...@wiznet.ca

(8) Yahoo.. Re: (KMM21799091V39451L0KM)

networ...@cc.yahoo-inc.com

(9) Hotmail & MSN

ab...@hotmail.com
ab...@msn.com

Darrell Larose
121 Northwestern Ave
Ottawa, ON K1Y 0M1
(613) 725-0245

keywords...
jerry...@gmail.com geof...@hotmail.com Don...@gmail.com
Matt...@yahoo.com cot...@rogers.com Interested [#35227582]
FreeSpee...@aol.com networ...@cc.yahoo-inc.com
ad...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA larose Coleccionista (KMM21799091V39451L0KM)
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> > bcha...@express-news.net..police beat

> > http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&q=mwigle@virtual-impact

> > > If you treat us with courtesy and respect, you will get the same from us

> > > > making them appear to be to the public. We call that spin control,or

> > > and just move on down the road, to where the other neo-Nazi hate mongers
>

Tanus

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Disabled Rights Alliance wrote:
> Your stupidity Don.... is only exceeded by your lack of knowledge regarding
> the the rule of law in Canada.

I'd also like to see how Marc Wigle was a racist. You're throwing about
accusations with seemingly nothing to back you up. If you truly work
for a Canadian NGO, I would expect that you have some kind of backing
for remarks like that.


>
> Get a life... and kindly quit wasting good electrons with your racist
> remarks, you are not dealing with nit-wits like your Canadian pal Wigle.
>
> We have already initiated a criminal complaint against all of you, however
> if you want to keep digging a hole for yourselves... be our guest!

That's something else you could provide. A copy of the complaint.
Outlining what charge(s) might be laid. Citing Criminal Code sections
could be very helpful to your credibility.


>
> Only the Victoria Police, the RCMP, the DRA and the Crown Counsel will be
> reading these posts anyway!

I'm a member of none of those organizations. I'm reading the posts. And
please don't tell me that since I have a membership in the DRA
newsgroup that I'm a member of DRA. Remember, this is Usenet.

Tanus

Don...@gmail.com

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Jan 14, 2006, 8:11:10 AM1/14/06
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Disabled Rights Alliance wrote:
> Your stupidity Don.... is only exceeded by your lack of knowledge regarding
> the the rule of law in Canada.
>
> Get a life... and kindly quit wasting good electrons with your racist
> remarks, you are not dealing with nit-wits like your Canadian pal Wigle.
>
> We have already initiated a criminal complaint against all of you, however
> if you want to keep digging a hole for yourselves... be our guest!
>
> Only the Victoria Police, the RCMP, the DRA and the Crown Counsel will be
> reading these posts anyway!
>
> DRA
>
Mr. Palmer,

Produce proof that I posted any racist remarks at all. In fact in a
post on ott.general you violated Section 299 of The Criminal Code of
Canada;

Section 299

* A person publishes a libel when he
o (a) exhibits it in public
o (b) causes it to be read or seen, or
o (c) show or delivers it, or causes it to be shown or
delivered, with intent that it should be read or seen by the person
whom it defames or by any other person.

You repeated posts made anonymously labelling a person as a paedophile.
Under the law you reposting these allegations is "publishing libel"
under the CCC.

You violate your TOS with both Telus and Google, these have been
reported.

You are also a spammer, this has also been reported.

Tanus

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Jan 14, 2006, 9:05:29 AM1/14/06
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There's nothing here to quote.

Mr. Palmer, you're avoiding the question I posed. Plus, you have now
resorted to spamming me by sending the same drivel to my mailbox. I
might add that it's not original drivel, but something you copy/pasted.
Original thought seems to evade you.

I asked you to cite on Usenet where Marc Wigle was a racist. Instead
you sent me mail with no answers.

I'm still waiting.

Oh and BTW. I have an excellent ISP. The guys there have worked hard to
perfect their spam filter. I'm almost spam- free these days, and adding
your email(s) to it will be no problem. Further spamming from you
simply will show where you stand. Which so far, is
approximately......nowhere.

You have a nice day now.

Tanus

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Geoff

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Jan 15, 2006, 8:02:58 PM1/15/06
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Seems like as soon as AOL cancels his access or Google blocks him he is
back with a new login ID. Google should consider an IP block for
Richard Scoville

http://groups.google.com/group/Richard-Scoville-e-annoyance-reports
report sightings of Richard Scoville, FreeSpeechStore and all his
sockpuppets that violate the new USA e-annoyance law. Reports will be
sent to the San Antonio, Texas District Attorney for prosecution

http://freespeechstore-abuse.blogspot.com

Dick is very familar with a Court room;

Litigant Search by Person Name
Case Number Last Name Suffix First Middle Date Filed Litigant Type
1985CI14657 SCOVILLE RICHARD M 08/23/1985 DEFENDANT
1988CI17084 SCOVILLE RICHARD M 09/27/1988 DEFENDANT
1988CI17857 SCOVILLE RICHARD M 10/11/1988 DEFENDANT
1989CI05376 SCOVILLE RICHARD M 03/31/1989 DEFENDANT
1994CI10193 SCOVILLE RICHARD M 07/19/1994 DEFENDANT
1994CI17686 SCOVILLE RICHARD M 12/14/1994 PLAINTIFF
1996CI07901 SCOVILLE RICHARD M 05/31/1996 PLAINTIFF
1995CI11062 SCOVILLE RICHARD M 05/20/1998 WITNESS DE
1998CI08755 SCOVILLE RICHARD M 06/12/1998 PLAINTIFF
1999CI08809 SCOVILLE RICHARD M 06/21/1999 PLAINTIFF
2000CI12289 SCOVILLE RICHARD M 08/23/2000 PROPIA PER
1992TA102588 SCOVILLE RICK 09/14/1992 DEFENDANT
1997EM504382 ARTESIA DATA SYSTEMS INC 11/17/1999 EMPLOYER
1991EM501605 ARTESIA WATER COMPANY 06/16/1999 EMPLOYER
1999CI17545 ARTESIA WATER COMPANY DBA 12/15/1999 DEFENDANT
1999CI17545 ARTESIA WATER COMPANY INC 12/15/1999 DEFENDANT
1999CI08809 ARTESIA WATERS INC 06/21/1999 PLAINTIFF
2000CI12289 ARTESIA WATERS INC 08/23/2000 PROPIA PER

I count more times as a defendant.

keywords:
This explains a lot about Scoville and his business "acumen".
> does anyone know why for WSJ was sued in the first place?

>From a posting on USENET by Spam...@spamcop.net:

Artifacts follow:

(1) Richard Morton Scoville was described in a Friday, November 16,
1990 San Antonio Business Journal article ("Artesia Water Loses Moneyin
Judicial Victory") as the "owner" of ArtesiaWaters.

In that article, "Rick Scoville" was described as having brought suit
in February 1987 against a glass bottle manufacturer in Mexico and
winning, in December 1989, a substantial judgment in a jury trial:
$ 28,060 actual damages
$ 2,000,000 exemplary damages
$ 136,000 attorney's fees

However, in May of 1990, a judge reduced the award to actual damages
only. Per the article:

"My greatest fears had become a reality -- that a judge, not a jury of
my peers, would tender a verdict which was predicated by something
other than right versus wrong," says company president Scoville. Judge
Whittington was unavailable for comment. But jury foreman Darla Allen,
who LEARNED OF THE CHANGE IN THE AWARD THROUGH LETTERS FROM SCOVILLE,
says she is disillusioned about the system.
...
Scoville was FINED FOR CONTEMPT OF COURT DURING THE TRIAL and fined $
500 when he protested to the judge against an ACCUSATION BY THE DEFENSE
THAT HE WAS BOTTLING TAP WATER. ... "We almost did go out of business
because of this," Scoville says.

(2) On Wednesday, April 10, 1991, the Wall Street Journal published an
article with this title:

FDA FINDS BUNK IN BOTTLEDWATER CLAIMS

In summary, the article stated:

Food and Drug Administration survey of US bottled-water industry
suggests that water of number of domestic companies may not be as pure
and natural as consumers have been led to believe; ArtesiaWaters ... is
heavily processed and COMES FROM THE SAME UNDERGROUND SOURCE THAT
SANANTONIO TAPS FOR ITS MUNICIPAL WATER SUPPLY...

(3) This article was followed by more public discourse regarding
bottlers and their claims, including specific discussion regarding
Richard Morton Scoville's company, Artesia Waters. As noted in
theMonday, April 15, 1991 article in 'Adweek Marketing Week'
(BRANDWEEK):

Water Brands Face New Scrutiny

Last week the $ 2.6 billion category won more unfavorable publicity as
Rep. John D. Dingell (D-Mich.) conducted hearings on the industry.

In testimony, the FDA revealed a bit of common industry knowledge --
that bottledwater sources are often the same ones used by
municipalcities. For the White House's favorite water brand, Artesia,
ArtesiaWaters Inc. USES THE SAME ACQUIFIER AS THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO,
TEXAS
...
I think if I lived in San Antonio," ... "I'd feel a little cheated."

(4) In a Monday, July 10, 1991 article in the "Marketing News",
Scoville announced his plans to sue the Wall Street Journal, and a
professor who was a source for the WSJ's article, and
"possiblelitigation against [U.S. Representative John D.] Dingell".

Bottled-water firm set to sue over charges

ArtesiaWaters Inc., San Antonio, Texas, which is threatening legal
action, said it watched sales plummet 45% in May, a month after a
General Accounting Office report, ...
The charges that Artesia is the same quality as San Antonio's tap water
are "totally ludicrous," Scoville said. ...
But Scoville said it was the The Wall Street Journal's preview of the
House hearings, which included allegations against Artesia, that had
the "most damaging marketing effect."
...
the company is putting together a "major, major lawsuit" against the
Journal and one of the story's sources, ... a professor of
environmental health and hydrology at University of Texas at Houston.
...

The congressional hearing "stirred up some unnecessary controversy" but
"I really don't think it hurt the industry," said Hellen Berry, vice
president of marketing at Beverage Marketing Corp., New York. Consumers
were skeptical about bottled water but that lasted "no more
than a week." ... Artesia was one of the few brands "actively affected"
and it has "already starting making its explanations." Berry said other
bottled water marketers "would be well advised to ignore [the
controversy] totally."

(5) According to a Friday, August 14, 1992 article in the San Antonio
Business Journal, Scoville and ArtesiaWaters filed yet another lawsuit,
this time in July against another bottle supplier, claiming "2
millionin sales ... and $ 5 million a year in potential sales".

Artesia, Bottle Supplier Negotiating to Settle Legal Dispute

Artesia's petition alleges that [Vidriera Oriental, S.A. de C.V. (VOSA)
of Mexico] misrepresented its ability to produce bottles before
entering into its contract, violating the Texas Deceptive Trade
Practices Act. Under the act, Artesia should be able to recoup its
attorneys fees from the defendant in addition to three times its actual
damages, according to the suit. ...
The suit is not the first Artesia has filed against a Mexican bottle
company. ...

In that suit, a Dallas County judge pitched out a jury's decision
togrant Artesia $ 2 million in punitive damages and legal fees, instead
awarding the company $ 28,060 in damages from the lengthy case. The
judge's decision cost Artesia $ 150,000 in legal fees that it would
have partially recouped if the jury's decision had been allowed
tostand.

Within six months of the decision, Artesia appealed the suit and came
to an out-of court settlement with Vitro, Scoville says. He would
notreveal the amount of the settlement.

(6) In a Monday, January 25, 1993 article, the "Legal Intelligencer"
announced the jury's verdict AGAINST Scoville and ArtesiaWaters in
theWSJ lawsuit:

JURY: ARTESIA WATERS WAS NOT LIBELED

A federal court jury ruled Thursday that ArtesiaWaters, Inc., was not
libeled by a story in the Wall Street Journal that said the
companymisled consumers about the source of its product.

Artesia President Rick Scoville said he planned to appeal,...

Both Scoville and his attorney, George Shaffer, said they won a moral
victory because the jury did find that the company had not
distributedcontaminated water and did not have to recall any of its
products.

(7) A Monday, Frbruary 15, 1993 article in "Texas Lawyer" describes the
verdict additionally:

ARTESIA WATERS INC. v. BRUCE INGERSOLL and THE WALL STREET JOURNAL

... Austin's George, Donaldson & Ford successfully defended The Wall
Street Journal and one of its reporters in a $10 million libel
suitfiled by San Antonio-based ArtesiaWaters Inc.

Artesia was represented by brothers George Shaffer and Robert Shaffer &
Shaffer.

U.S. Magistrate Judge John W. Primomo of San Antonio on Jan. 25 entered
a take nothing judgment and dismissed the suit with prejudice. An
eight-member jury ... found Jan. 21 that statements in an article
published April 10, 1991, were not false and defamatory to Artesia.
...
The suit, filed in March 1992, alleged that the article implied that
Artesia sells city water, has had false or misleading promotions, has
bottled contaminated water and has conducted a recall. The jury found
only that the article stated or implied that Artesia sells city water
and has had false or misleading promotions. But the jury said those
statements were not false and defamatory.

(8) The case had interest in the publishing community, as noted in a
Saturday, February 20, 1993 article in "Editor & Publisher Magazine":

WSJ cleared in libel case

...
The jury found that the "article is a substantially true account of the
activities of the FDA" and a congressional committee.

Scoville claimed in the $ 10 million libel suit, filed in March 1992,
that the story damaged the company's reputation and reduced its sales.

Journal lawyer R. James George said the company misled the public by
claiming the water was "bottled at the source" and showed a waterfall
on the label. However, George said, there was no waterfall at the
source. He claimed Scoville even kept the source a "trade secret"
forsome time

(9) It is unclear if Scoville's string of unsuccessful lawsuits led to
this, but, as noted in this Friday, November 25, 1994 article in the
San Antonio Business Journal, the "financial backer of firm-founder
Rick Scoville" sold ArtesiaWaters Inc. to an employee, MARGARET K.
SHODROCK, and two outside investors:

Artesia: New owners, focus

ArtesiaWaters Inc., Texas' oldest bottler of mineral water, has quietly
changed hands.
...
...Shodrock says the deal was "very attractive." The Business Journal
was unable to reach Scoville before press time or find out the name of
Scoville's backer.

The firm's new owners have also changed Artesia's name to Alamo City
Beverage Inc., but will continue to offer products under the
Artesianame.

Alamo City Beverage currently has a work force of 18 people, but
employs more during its peak seasons during the summer. It operates at
a 37,000-square-foot bottling plant at 4671 Walzem Road. The
companypurifies and bottles water from the Edwards Aquifer.

Shodrock has been employed by Artesia for seven years, serving in
positions ranging from corporate comptroller to operations manager.

The firm's new president, Cheryl K. Randol, formerly maintained a local
dental practice, served in a teaching position at the University of
Texas Health Science Center and as a senior vice president at Texas
Dental Plans Inc. Randol and her husband are now co-owners of Alamo
City Beverage. ...
The company has replaced its old trademark brown glass bottles with
plastic.
...
According to Shodrock, the company under Scoville suffered declining
market share because of its emphasis on carbonated and flavored water.

"It was a management decision." Shodrock says. "(Carbonated water) was
the emphasis that (Scoville) wanted." Scoville is no longer with the
company.

Scoville, a former industrial glue salesman, launched the company in
1980, taking on France's Perrier, the dominant brand of bottled waterat
the time.

Scoville, an aggressive pitch man for his products, took the company
through a series of ups and downs during his tenure as CEO. During the
late 1980s, Artesia outsold Perrier's name-brand carbonated water
inTexas.

But, the firm also felt a slap when the Wall Street Journal ran an
article claiming the company misled consumers about the source of its
product. The company filed a $ 10 million libel suit against
thepublication, but a federal jury found the story not to be libelous.

During the trial, testimony pointed out that the firm's earnings
decreased from 1989 to 1991, according to media reports. In better
times--1985--Scoville turned down a buyout offer from brewing
giantAnheuser-Busch.

(10) An amusing footnote to the foregoing, and a preview of his current
net lunacy, is provided by this report of harassment by Scoville
ofsamspade.org:

http://static.samspade.org/flynow.html

A usenet spammer, using the name of Margaret Morice, using the email
addresses fly...@swbell.net, mamor...@aol.com, KRic...@aol.com and a
number of flyno...@aol.com addresses is harassing both SamSpade.org and
centergate.com (the nice company that donates all of SamSpade.orgs huge
bandwidth requirements).

So far the harassment has taken the form of mailbombing, obscene email,
frivolous complaints to providers, harassing phone calls, bogus police
reports, threats of lawsuits and a number of other things. These have
gone to not only myself and the employees of Centergate and associated
companies but also to others who sit on the same commitees as
Centergate staff members. There have also been false allegations,
including what appears to be forged porn spam, sent to
businessassociates, risking significant business costs.

The users real name appears to be Richard Morton Scoville, of San
Antonio, TX
...
The user concerned uses a static DSL line, provided by swbell.net at
65.66.180.192/29:

CustName: Margaret Morice
Address: 2701 W 15th St PMB 236 Plano, TX 75075
Country: US
Comment:
RegDate: 2002-05-07
Updated: 2002-05-07
...
The website served by those addresses is freespeechstore.com:

Organization:
Free Speech Store
Margaret Morice
P.O. Box 120442
San Antonio Texas 78212
United States
Phone: 1111111111
mamor...@aol.com

Registrar Name: addresscreation.com
Registrar Whois: whois.addresscreation.com
Registrar Homepage: http://addresscreation.com

Domain Name: freespeechstore.com
Created on: 05/28/2001
Expires on: 05/28/2003
Record Last Updated on: 04/18/2002
...
Besides the obvious, I do wonder about the relationship, if any,
between "Margaret Morice" and "Margaret Shodrock"

posted by Dick at 1:49 PM 6 comments

NetPI

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Jan 15, 2006, 9:19:36 PM1/15/06
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Yet another sockpuppet for this Ottawa Photographer with aberrations.

http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&q=darrell+larose&qt_s=Search

Here is how to report him for his intrusion into this newsgroup with
off-topic, unwanted drivel..

http://groups.google.com/group/How-To-Report-Ottawas-Unprofessional-Photographer-Darrell-A-Larose?lnk=li


Dear Rogers Family (RG)...Below is an online abuse report to Google for
your customer's blatant disregard for your AUO, TOS, etc., all through
postings in Google Groups..
==========================================================


In a message dated 1/15/2006 4:03:26 P.M. Central Standard Time,
Freespeechstore writes:

mailed to...
ab...@rogers.com, edward...@rci.rogers.com,
melinda...@rci.rogers.com, edward....@rci.rogers.com,
mary.t...@rci.rogers.com, ab...@google.com,
groups-...@google.com, larry...@google.com,
serge...@google.com,
po...@dfn.de, u...@irz.inf.tu-dresden.de, c...@inf.tu-dresden.de,
kno...@nic.de, ripe...@ripe.net


Dear Rogers Family...

Below is an online abuse report to Google for your customer's blatant
disregard for your AUO, TOS, etc., all through postings in Google
Groups..

===================================================================
This post is by one Darrell A. Larose, originating from a Rogers (RG)
IP address and then posting through an exploitable IP Address via
NNTP-Posting-Host: 141.76.1.121. The major abuse below is the posting
of the following erroneous link...
http://www.FreeSpeechStore.com/donate.asp
strictly to flood and harass the freespeechstore.com (FSS) servers.

http://groups.google.com/group/sat.general/msg/f80892b3ea596112?dmode=source&hl=en

Here is a bit of history on this Usenet PUNK with some Google refernce
numbers....

Darrell A. Larose (darrelllarose.ca)..Self Portrait Of An Internet
CyberStalker, PUNK. Stay Clear of this Cyber Punk & Unprofessional
Photographer now posting to Usenet through NNTP usenetexchange.com, as
well as Rogers (rogers,com)! Located in Ottawa, he is harbored by
Rogers Communications (RG). His abusive posts usually have the
fingerprint to post follow-ups to dev/null. Through his many aliases,
sock puppets, forgeries, etc, this Vermin attempts to defame,
disparage, libel, etc. others by impersonating them through
obfuscation! This will be updated expeditiously upon new knowledge of
this PUNK's abuse!

More below...

http://darrelllarose.ca/

Above, the Vermin's own pictures of his dufus looking self! He is

presently posting in Usenet as...

"Darrell Larose" <sp...@this.invalid>


"Nomen Nescio" (nob...@dizum.com),
"Darrell" (sp...@this.eh),
"FreeSpee...@aol.com" (Don...@gmail.com),
"Mala Ipsa Nova" (Matt...@yahoo.com),
"Interested" (jim_ro...@yahoo.com),
"Darrell A. Larose" (ad...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA),
"Darrell" (cot...@rogers.com),

"NetP...@aol.com" (geof...@hotmail.com)
"Geoff" geof...@hotmail.com,


and now possibly jerry...@gmail.com through various IP addresses, via
exploitable servers.

More at http://freespeechstore.com keyword Larose and at...

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&start=0&scoring=d&enc_author=Uv8V2AwAAACJrZwMqhB6TWkpl2VH0gTy&hl=en&

http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&q=darrell+larose&qt_s=Search

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=darrell++larose+nomen&start=0&scoring=d&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&

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Report him to the folks below for his off-topic posts, abuse, &
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