Mail Server NOT on 25 or 110
Sunnie Georgia
web server or email server. There are HTTP redirectors available that will
redirect port 80 to another port on your computer, but are there any
services, or any ways, to run a mail server behind such a firewall? Both
port 110 and 25 are blocked incoming and outgoing.
I have a domain name and I am going to sign up with ZoneEdit.com to forward
HTTP to my IP but a different port. I want to try to find something similar
for email.
If anyone has any ideas, or better suggestions, please let me know.
Thanks,
Sean
Sunnie Georgia
the monopoly. DSL is too expensive. I know Cablemodem providers don't like
you to run servers, but my isp blocks almost all incoming ports. Their list
is forever long.
http://www.gtecablemodem.com/faq.htm#filter
maybe I'll have to suck it up and get DSL.
Anyone else?
"Goran Larsson" <h...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
news:Go929...@approve.se...
> In article <T8PR7.518$Y07.1...@paloalto-snr1.gtei.net>,
> Sunnie Georgia <sunni...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > My ISP blocks the use of any server on the common ports so I cannot run
a
> > web server or email server.
>
> Why do people accept this kind of abuse? Can't you ask them to remove
> the restrictions, or even better, switch to a more reasonable ISP?
>
> > ... but are there any
> > services, or any ways, to run a mail server behind such a firewall? Both
> > port 110 and 25 are blocked incoming and outgoing.
>
> The block of port 25 for incoming will stop you from using a mail server
> on the normal port. You can run a mailserver on another port, but no one
> will be able to deliver any mail unless you tell them what port to use.
> You will have to use some forwarding service.
>
> The block of port 25 for outgoing will stop you from using a mail server
> fpr your own deliveries. Unless someone sets up a mailserver listening
> on a different port you have to relay your mail through your ISP.
>
> The block of port 110 for incoming will stop you from setting up your
> own POP3 server. You will probably not miss this.
>
> The block of port 110 for outgoing will stop you from using any POP3
> server outside the firewall. Are you sure about this restriction? Are
> your ISP trying to force you to use their mail services?
>
> It seems to me that your ISP is placing you in a cage and have you
> pay for it. What a deal...
>
> > I have a domain name and I am going to sign up with ZoneEdit.com to
forward
> > HTTP to my IP but a different port. I want to try to find something
similar
> > for email.
>
> I haven't had any contacts with ZoneEdit, but they claim to have a service
> MailForward that you can use to forward to another address. Use your mail
> address at your ISP as the forward address and then use a program that
> automatically download mail. Not pretty, but it may work ok.
>
> --
> Göran Larsson hoh AT approve DOT se
Jem Berkes
> have the monopoly. DSL is too expensive. I know Cablemodem providers
> don't like you to run servers, but my isp blocks almost all incoming
> ports. Their list is forever long.
>
> http://www.gtecablemodem.com/faq.htm#filter
>
> maybe I'll have to suck it up and get DSL.
The cable people are getting more and more touchy about the servers issue
because they're finding out (surprise, surprise!) they're running out
bandwidth! Maybe it's all that HTML mail or something ;)
Anyway, I also think it's wrong for an "internet service provider" to block
ports like this. You're paying for an internet connection, and those ports
are part of a normal, healthy internet connection.
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Linux_303
What OS are you using?
With Sendmail and ipop3d, you are able to change what ports these bind to.
Sistem
Jeremy Howard
"Sunnie Georgia" <sunni...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:T8PR7.518$Y07.1...@paloalto-snr1.gtei.net...
> web server or email server. There are HTTP redirectors available that will
> redirect port 80 to another port on your computer, but are there any
> services, or any ways, to run a mail server behind such a firewall? Both
> port 110 and 25 are blocked incoming and outgoing.
>
> I have a domain name and I am going to sign up with ZoneEdit.com to
forward
> HTTP to my IP but a different port. I want to try to find something
similar
> for email.
>
mailbox (which you can access with POP if you really must, but IMAP is way
cooler). You also get SMTP access. SMTP, IMAP, and IMAP-SSL can all be
accessed on alternate ports if you ask webmasterATfastmailDOTfm nicely. You
can either use ZoneEdit's MailForward feature to forward from your domain to
your fastmail.fm account, or you can point your MX records at fastmail.fm
and ask the FastMail.FM webmaster to set up your domain accounts for you.
If you particularly need to run your own server for some reason, you can run
a mail server on any port you like. You don't need a redirector--just tell
your mail software to run on a different port.
Thor Kottelin
Goran Larsson wrote:
> The block of port 25 for incoming will stop you from using a mail server
> on the normal port. You can run a mailserver on another port, but no one
> will be able to deliver any mail unless you tell them what port to use.
Hopefully that will, at some point in the future, be possible using SRV
records (RFC 2782).
Thor
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>My ISP blocks the use of any server on the common ports so I cannot run a
>web server or email server. There are HTTP redirectors available that will
>redirect port 80 to another port on your computer, but are there any
>services, or any ways, to run a mail server behind such a firewall? Both
>port 110 and 25 are blocked incoming and outgoing.
tzo's store and forward service (add-on) can do this. since it's an add-on
you have to use their web relay service too, which you would use instead of
zoneedit.com. see <http://www.tzo.com> for more information. (not
affiliated, just a happy customer.)
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> maybe I'll have to suck it up and get DSL.
Or pay a real ISP in addition to your cable. This is what I do
at home; @home, er, attbi for the hi-speed web-access and
sonic.net for shell acct, mail, website. I have a firewall/NAT
router to protect my boxes, and I use ssh's port remapping to
talk to ports 25 and 110 at sonic.net -- ssh maps port 25 of
mail.sonic.net to port 60025 on my linux box, and a hacked
sendmail.cf routes all outgoing mail to localhost port 60025;
same thing with port 60110 on my local linux box mapping to
port 110 of pop.sonic.net, and my .fetchmailrc pointing to
localhost port 60110 to fetch stuff from. There are a few
hacks I had to do with /etc/hosts and /etc/procmailrc and the
like; email me at home (username cpark at that domain) if you
want info on exactly what.
cheers
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Linux_303
Jeremy,
Does every response have to be a sales pitch?
Sistem
Jeremy Howard
> "Jeremy Howard" <jhoward.no.spa...@fastmail.fm> wrote in message news:<i8WR7.741$ko4....@nasal.pacific.net.au>...
>
> Does every response have to be a sales pitch?
>
time you made this accusation, FastMail.FM is just about the only
provider offering reliable SMTP and IMAP for free right now. As a
result, it happens to be the best answer to many questions asked on
comp.mail.misc and comp.mail.imap. Of the three thousand posts I've
made to technical lists, groups, and forums in the last year, only a
small proportion mention FastMail.FM, and only where it's likely to be
a good answer to a specific question. On this newsgroup that happens
quite regularly, because of the subject matter.
Anyway, I got to wondering why you are so negative about this, and
what services you would suggest instead. I noticed a few times you
have suggested usermail.com as a solution:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=77aaac7e.0108220029.6aa7261%40posting.google.com
I also noticed someone named 'linux303' with a different email address
suggesting usermail.com:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=8iqq5p%24d1l%241%40nnrp1.deja.com
Which I discovered is because linux303 owns the company:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=8iqodi%24bf3%241%40nnrp1.deja.com
I'm just wondering... Are you Brian Fonseca, the owner of
usermail.com, a company that is a competitor to FastMail.FM but does
not provide a free service? If so, shouldn't you mention that when you
make this kind of accusation? If not, then this is a most bizarre
coincidence!
Linux_303
Jeremy,
Yes, I am the owner of Usermail.com. I do not however view you as a
competitor and my only issue is what I perceive is newsgroup spam,
which me and my company are highly against. Anytime a persone
interjects their sales pitch in a manner that you have in this
newsgroup, I take the liberty to make my distaste known. Because, I
do happen to feel it is very distasteful.
Please visit http://www.ecofuture.org/jmnews.html for more information
Sistem
Jeremy Howard
> competitor and my only issue is what I perceive is newsgroup spam,
> which me and my company are highly against.
Thank you for clarifying that. However I've decided to ignore your
stated perception and your advice on ethics, since:
a. You run another email service, so are less than objective
b. I question your hold of basic ethical premises, since I saw:
"Usermail.com is good. My friend has used them since '98 and I
have used them for about 6 months. Pleased so far!"
...in a post written by you 3 months ago.
I will continue to mention my company's service where it provides the
best known solution to a poster's question.