The Yorkshire Ripper Cover-up revisited:

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The Yorkshire Ripper Cover-up revisited

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The Gregg v. O’Gara juryless libel ‘judgment’ has stifled rational
discussion of the Yorkshire Ripper cover-up.

If a man has a house and a car and a job and a wife and a child, then
he will greatly fear a libel case against him.

Constable Gregg’s action against Mr O’Gara was supposedly funded by
the association of police officers, or whatever it’s called. But it
was probably funded from an informal ruling group ‘slush fund.’

The purpose of the Gregg v. O’Gara juryless ‘judgment’ was not to get
money from Mr O’Gara and not to comfort constable Gregg’s ego.

[As far as I know, they have not pursued Mr Noel O’Gara for the
£50,000, although they probably can do so now under EU law. They know
that Mr O’Gara would kick up a hell of a stink in the Irish media and
on the internet if they pursued the matter. That’s the last thing they
want.
They want to silence discussion on the Yorkshire Ripper cover-up.
So, as far as I know, they are not pursuing Mr O’Gara for that
£50,000, as money was never what it was about.]

The purpose of the Gregg v. O’Gara juryless ‘judgment’ was only to
supply a big stick to wave in the faces of website managers and
individuals who dare to speak anything truthful about the Yorkshire
Ripper cover-up.

It’s working well.

It will be only decades from now, when crime writers are sure Jim
Hobson, Margaret Thatcher… and all the other participants in the
Yorkshire Ripper cover-up are well dead, and no longer able to mount a
libel suit……… only then will the truth be written widely about the
Yorkshire Ripper cover-up.

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In Argentina and Chile there was and still is great agitation to
obtain justice for “the disappeared.”

John Humble is one of “the disappeared” in England. But there is
something sheepish about the white English race, and there is no
agitation to demand Habeus Corpus with regard to John Humble. It takes
the Irish or the Scottish to say what needs to be said in England.

The disappearance of John Humble is a matter that should worry all of
us.

If John Humble can disappear, so can you too, under “British
Justice.”

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Mr Noel O’Gara of Ireland is entitled to great respect and admiration
for his work over several decades, at great financial cost to himself,
to keep the Yorkshire Ripper anomaly in the public eye.

I’ve never met Billy Tracey. I never said directly that he is the man
who killed the women Peter Sutcliffe did not kill during those years.
I said Billy Tracey should be hunted down and questioned and
investigated in connection with the numerous killings Peter Sutcliffe
did not commit but confessed to.

My opinion is that Billy Tracey was quietly bumped off some time in
the 1980s. A man like that needed killing, some would say, and I guess
somebody back then decided that enough was enough, and got rid of him.
A man like Billy Tracey could not stay ‘off the radar’ for all these
years. He must be long dead.

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More recently, a man who uses the name ‘Rupert Bear’ has offered a new
perspective on the Yorkshire Ripper cover-up.

I’ve read his posts, and some salient points stick in the mind.

Were the Yorkshire Ripper killings a case of “folie-a-deux,” meaning a
husband and wife team doing the numerous Yorkshire Ripper killings
that Peter Sutcliffe confessed to but did not commit?

‘Rupert Bear’ makes the interesting point that in some of the
Yorkshire Ripper cases, “a couple was seen walking near the scene and
police are anxious to trace them.”

What better cover for a sneaky serial killer!
A lone man seen walking near the scene of a Yorkshire Ripper murder
would be a murder suspect. But a male-female couple would not be
suspected, in the context of the time.
A “folie-a-deux?”
If the REAL Yorkshire Ripper had a female accomplice, another Rose
West / Myra Hyndley / Bonnie Parker……… a “folie-a-deux” …… that would
explain his ability to escape detection, since everyone was convinced
at the time that the Yorkshire Ripper was a loner.

One could argue that it was Billy Tracey and his slave-girl wife.

Or was it another couple?

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The essential, discernible truths about the Yorkshire Ripper cover-up
have been told by only a few brave souls who don’t fear libel
actions.
The truth about the Yorkshire Ripper cover-up will become widely known
only after Jim Hobson, Margaret Thatcher, and all the other
participants in the cover-up are well dead and not able to mount a
libel suit.

Until then, the Gregg v. O’Gara juryless ‘judgment’ will be a big
stick to be waved in the face of any website manager or individual who
dares to speak the truth about any aspect of the Yorkshire Ripper
cover-up.

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Meanwhile there is still no news on John Humble, the ‘fall guy’ for
clearing up the ‘loose end’ of the ‘Wearside Jack’ letters and tape.

Why are the English people - including the ‘trendy lefties’ - so
selective with regard to what they can get ‘riled up’ about?

The disappearance of John Humble clearly has been the subject of a “D
Notice,” as it used to be called, but in fact it’s a bit more
‘informal’ than a D Notice.
Hans Ruesch was the victim of a media blackout in the 1980s in England
and USA.
Not an official “D Notice,” but just the way the system works……

Similarly, no journalist in England is free to voice concern over the
disappearance of John Humble.

If you contact a junior ‘cup reporter’ and give him or her the details
of the John Humble disappearance, they will be receptive and filled
with youthful zeal at first. Then they will speak enthusiastically to
their “superiors” about this unprecedented scandal, a front-page
sensation, the disappearance of John Humble…… but then the editor will
educate them in the facts of life…….. and then they go silent and will
always be “out of the office” if you call again.

That has happened many, many times in many, many contexts.

That’s the state of “freedom of expression” in England in the twenty-
first century.

If John Humble can disappear, and if the media can be forbidden to
comment upon his disappearance, and if this happens under “British
Justice,” then maybe you too will disappear at some stage, under
“British Justice.”

“They came for the Jews, they came for the Catholics, they came for
the homosexuals, they came for the mentally retarded…….. the West
Yorkshire Police came for John Humble…… and I remained silent……… then
they came for me, and there was nobody left to protest for me…….. “
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THE FAKE PRESS CONFERENCE:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=US&feature=related&hl=uk&v=8zcxudS-hrc

I'M JACK:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22DUclUZiX4

And:
https://groups.google.com/group/uk.legal/msg/0af836e687799b85?hl=en

thedarkman

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Feb 4, 2011, 6:58:16 AM2/4/11

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There was NO Yorkshire Ripper cover up. Mr O'Gara deserves only our
pity; he is a man obsessed.

This from a man who knows just how bent the Filth can be and indeed
are.

Rupert Bear

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Feb 5, 2011, 4:04:15 AM2/5/11

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The Yorkshire Ripper case trancends anything you might refer to in
your bent filth context..

The normal daily life of Northern England was being held to ransom by
a campain of TERRORISM..

The Ripper case was something that grew and developed over several
years,, quite appart from the x millions of pounds it was costing, it
had become an internationl embarrassement..

How Maggie Helped catch the Yorkshire Ripper..(Daily Mail)

(vested interest,?)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1317190/How-Margaret-Thatcher-helped-catch-Yorkshire-Ripper.html

One can see the Ripper carry on in the North as being a considerable
niucance to a certain party and that an end of the circus was highly
desirable.. An end was required and it came within a month of Maggies
changes being enforced on Gregory and Oldfield.

Sutty ended the Rippers Reign,, but he did not resolve the Ripper
case,, Humbles conviction also fails to convince.. If one considers
that the killer was glorying in the publicity and the enormous sense
of power to inflict chaos boosted his ego.. That all the associated
publicity and public row had become the motivation of the ripper
killings,,,, well when you think that way,, you can even put a
benevolent twist onto the motive for ending the case one way or
another..

I dont know what to call it,, cover up,, may be too small a term..
Thirty years of propaganda and public brainwashing might be closer..

I have never been able to make my mind up about O'gara either,,
From the point of view of placing the idea of an un-caught Ripper into
the public awareness..
The O'Gara-Brannen clash succeeds...
In todays world the un-caught ripper may browse the web,, the
authorities are clever with kind of stuff now.

Who knows,?, how would you pursue an un-caught Ripper without telling
everyone that Sutty
was not the man.. The hunt for wearside jack failed and was
eventually ended with Humble..

Leaving only Joan Harrison in Preston.. And now a recent promise of
new developements..

"Police; Well Catch Real Killer Of Ripper Victim".. Express..
http://tinyurl.com/6j9ye6h

This tantalising little bombshell was released a few weeks back..
News which will still be of great interest to many in Northern
England,,
and all crime fans everywhere,, is welcomed like a damp sqibb on
bonfire night..

I wonder if it may be deemed as not being in the public interest to
let people know where the recent developements in Preston lead to,, I
really do,, the waters are so very murky in this matter..

Course,, if it does go that way we are all reduced to the level of
livestock on a farm..

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Special Care

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Feb 8, 2011, 11:28:06 AM2/8/11

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On Feb 5, 9:04 am, Rupert Bear <nutherpercept...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

>
> I wonder if it may be deemed as not being in the public interest to
> let people know where the recent developements in Preston lead to,, I
> really do,, the waters are so very murky in this matter..
>
> Course,, if it does go that way we are all reduced to the level of
> livestock on a farm..

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Guys like Hitler, Stalin, Mao etc. always knew that they must tell big
lies.
If they tell small lies, the people will have the courage to challenge
them.
If they tell big lies, the implications of challenging them are too
much to bear.

The Yorkshire Ripper Cover-up - which includes in its vast tentacles
of deceit the disappearance of John Humble - is the biggest lie ever
told in the history of England.
That is why few have the guts to recognise it for what it is.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=GB&hl=en-GB&v=hkSaYJg9gMU

Rupert Bear

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Feb 8, 2011, 7:47:15 PM2/8/11

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On Feb 8, 4:28 pm, Special Care <special.car...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Feb 5, 9:04 am, Rupert Bear <nutherpercept...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
>
> > I wonder if it may be deemed as not being in the public interest to
> > let people know where the recent developements in Preston lead to,, I
> > really do,, the waters are so very murky in this matter..
>
> > Course,, if it does go that way we are all reduced to the level of
> > livestock on a farm..
>
> =========
>
> Guys like Hitler, Stalin, Mao etc. always knew that they must tell big
> lies.
> If they tell small lies, the people will have the courage to challenge
> them.
> If they tell big lies, the implications of challenging them are too
> much to bear.
>
> The Yorkshire Ripper Cover-up - which includes in its vast tentacles
> of deceit the disappearance of John Humble - is the biggest lie ever
> told in the history of England.

Oh well,, a new name to add to the list,, Cristopher Smith,,
From Leeds,, surprise..!
A deathbed confession no less..
The DNA magic bullet strikes again...
http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/227966/-Ripper-killer-is-trapped-by-DNA

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Rupert Bear

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Feb 8, 2011, 8:07:15 PM2/8/11

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> The DNA magic bullet strikes again...http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/227966/-Ripper-killer-is-trapped-...
>
> ........................

Maybe not a very specific deathbed confession,,
he died three years ago..
They claim he left a note about guilt..

I wonder if some of the papers will refuse to print this endless
celebration of propaganda in Britain today..

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Special Care

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Feb 17, 2011, 9:59:38 AM2/17/11

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On Feb 9, 1:07 am, Rupert Bear <nutherpercept...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> On Feb 9, 12:47 am, Rupert Bear <nutherpercept...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Feb 8, 4:28 pm, Special Care <special.car...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Feb 5, 9:04 am, Rupert Bear <nutherpercept...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > > > I wonder if it may be deemed as not being in the public interest to
> > > > let people know where the recent developements in Preston lead to,, I
> > > > really do,, the waters are so very murky in this matter..
>
> > > > Course,, if it does go that way we are all reduced to the level of
> > > > livestock on a farm..
>
> > > =========
>
> > > Guys like Hitler, Stalin, Mao etc. always knew that they must tell big
> > > lies.
> > > If they tell small lies, the people will have the courage to challenge
> > > them.
> > > If they tell big lies, the implications of challenging them are too
> > > much to bear.
>

> > > TheYorkshireRipperCover-up- which includes in its vast tentacles

> > > of deceit the disappearance of John Humble - is the biggest lie ever
> > > told in the history of England.
>
> > Oh well,, a new name to add to the list,, Cristopher Smith,,
> > From Leeds,, surprise..!
> > A deathbed confession no less..
> > The DNA magic bullet strikes again...http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/227966/-Ripper-killer-is-trapped-...
>
> > ........................
>
> Maybe not a very specific deathbed confession,,
> he died three years ago..
> They claim he left a note about guilt..
>
> I wonder if some of the papers will refuse to print this endless
> celebration of propaganda in Britain today..
>

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There's also the Yvonne Pearson anomaly.
Peter Sutcliffe killed her.
One of about five women he killed.

Her body lay rotting and undiscovered while the REAL Yorkshire Ripper
was composing his letter to Oldfield, with no mention of Yvonne's soon-
to-be discovered corpse.

The Yorkshire Ripper 'case' is riddled with contradictions.

But it's a BIG LIE.

The 'trendy lefties' can cope with only small lies.

Rupert Bear

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Feb 17, 2011, 11:15:37 AM2/17/11

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Why do there have to be trendy lefty or righties,, whats that all
about..
There are many people with serious doubts about the case but
they simply have nowhere to turn to as far as i can see..

As the silence on John Humble continues,, it becomes more apparent
that something is holding the papers off a news story.. And yet that
mechanisim is not made known to us, that information is witheld.. How
do people defend themselves against that which is not made known to
them..

Sometimes I wonder if the relatives and families have more information
than is made public..
The Leach family even hired a private detective at one point,, I
suspect there maybe something missing or witheld about that night in
Bradford still.. If any happen to see this,, was there any report of a
couple on a motorcycle,, or perhaps a girl by a motorcycle seen that
night.??
If so it is time to speak up,, recent develpments re the Preston
pickle, and the Humble pickle ,, suggest that the authorities are more
interested in hiding the truth than anything else..

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Special Care

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Feb 18, 2011, 1:00:31 PM2/18/11

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On Feb 17, 4:15 pm, Rupert Bear <nutherpercept...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> recent develpments re the Preston
> pickle, and the Humble pickle ,, suggest that the authorities are more
> interested in hiding the truth than anything else..
>

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The disappearance of John Humble is about as newsworthy as it gets,
yet there has been a total media blackout on John Humble for about a
year and a half.

Why doesn't someone explain?

What about the many emotionally inadequate women who were writing to
him at Armley, wanting to be his angelic Saviour when he came out (as
in the case of Sion Jenkins)?

Have these emotionally crippled angelic saviour girls got anything to
say about the disappearance of their 'cause?'

Special Care

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Feb 21, 2011, 12:55:04 PM2/21/11

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If it happened to John Humble it might happen to you too.

We're all in this together.

The Yorkshire Ripper Cover-up concerns us all................ but you
wouldn't know about that, you bums in Leeds.

Special Care

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Feb 21, 2011, 12:59:39 PM2/21/11

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I'M JACK !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22DUclUZiX4

Special Care

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Feb 21, 2011, 1:24:57 PM2/21/11

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On Feb 21, 5:59 pm, Special Care <special.car...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'M JACK !
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22DUclUZiX4

Why are the masses not out there on the streets clamouring for the
release of John Humble.

What about LADY MELANIE?

Lady Melanie has much to say about syllogistic contradictions.

DOES LADY MELANIE HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY ABOUT THE DISAPPEARANCE OF JOHN
HUMBLE?

Or is that a forbidden subject too far for Lady Melanie?

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Judith

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Feb 22, 2011, 5:22:52 AM2/22/11

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On Sat, 5 Feb 2011 01:04:15 -0800 (PST), Rupert Bear
<nutherpe...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

>How Maggie Helped catch the Yorkshire Ripper..(Daily Mail)

If Thatcher had not intervened, and the hunt had still been
concentrated around Sunderland, perhaps Sutcliffe would have talked
his way out of trouble again

Yes of course - she really was wonderful - I will be so sad the day
she dies.

I saw the protests in Liverpool at the weekend about the Tory cuts.

There was an awesome poster of a metamorphosis of Thatcher/Cameron.

Wicked !!

Rupert Bear

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On Feb 22, 10:22 am, Judith <jmsmith2...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
> On Sat, 5 Feb 2011 01:04:15 -0800 (PST), Rupert Bear
>

> <nutherpercept...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> >How Maggie Helped catch the Yorkshire Ripper..(Daily Mail)
>
> If Thatcher had not intervened, and the hunt had still been
> concentrated around Sunderland, perhaps Sutcliffe would have talked
> his way out of trouble again
>
> Yes of course - she really was wonderful - I will be so sad the day
> she dies.
>
> I saw the protests in Liverpool at the weekend about the Tory cuts.
>
> There was an awesome poster of a metamorphosis of Thatcher/Cameron.
>
> Wicked !!

Hi there Jude,, just noticed your post..

I am not a political person,, spect you know that..
Is there a Thatcher/Cameron metamorph going on,, I dont know..

Thatcher was and still is a unique and powerful force in our history..
Famously "The lady is not for turning"...
Not for turning away from a difficult course to follow,, is the way I
understand it..

Yes,, her passing will be honored and great respects will be shown,,
quite rightly so I think... But lets not get too morbid about it as
she is not gone yet..

The way I see things is this..
Maggie had a total and ruthless committment to her views and politics,
she directed
courses of actions in the interests of the country, as she believed
in,, and she backed them up to the hilt,,
it is her strength of commitment and belief that made her great and
she is very well respected for it..

Huge battles with Scargill,, the Irish carry on,, financial crises and
the Falklands..
Do you remember seeing her whizzing about in a tank,, real hands on
Maggie...
Much more i cannot remember offhand..
Oh yes the life and times of Maggie were eventful..

At the time Maggie took over the country, the Yorkshire Ripper case
was also in full swing..
Here is a quote from Kieth Hellawells book the Outsider...
Maggie,,, "Who do these chief constables think they are ?"
It was in reference to difficulties she was having with the local
Chief Constable,
reguarding the Iranian Embassy Siege in London,, i think,, from
memory,,

SAS, forces were called in and it was ended right quick..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgGyyRTP4fU
I am not familiar enough with the story to go into any more detail..
The Chief Constable was swept aside and the problem was dealt with,,!
And well,, the SAS storming of the Embassy was a great success as far
as I remember..
But it does reflect her attitude and ways of dealing with problems and
Chief Constables..!

You seem to say,,,

> If Thatcher had not intervened, and the hunt had still been
> concentrated around Sunderland, perhaps Sutcliffe would have talked
> his way out of trouble again
>
> Yes of course - she really was wonderful - I will be so sad the day
> she dies.

If this is your comment Jude, it is small and naive,, it lacks
perception and understanding of the Ripper case..
It sounds like a blind support for you favorite femminist hero.. Oop's
sorry,,Heroine,,

Maggie is still here,,, she still has great influence,, I do believe
so..
I do not not know if she sent Wullie up there to find a way of ending
it one way or another..
I do not say that if she did,, that it was a wrong thing to do under
the circumstances at that time..

But if you did do that Maggie,,,
With every great leader, decisions have to be made,, sometimes they
may turn out to be wrong,,
The strong leader can live with a few mistakes and admit them,, even
put them right years later..

The ultimate irony to consider here is that the Yorkshire Ripper
Fiasco is really a womans story..
That the Ripper had a partner ,, a woman,, his pschco-pathology was
created by the influence of women..
And a woman's secret involvment in his life was the thing that
confounded the Yorkshire cops so completely,,
behind every successful man there is a woman,, so they say...
The Rippers partner was a secret advisor, helper or shield, she was
the primary reason why he could not be located by the Police..
And that a woman (who may not have been very well advised) forced an
end or redirection of the Ripper case which we are still stuck with
today
is a problem that possibly, only you can sort out..

The woman who looked into the eyes of Miss Whitaker ,, Miss
Macdonald,, Miss Leach,, and Miss Hill just before they died,,
may still be available to answer for her crimes, even if her spouce
was dead,, she would still carry a very great burden of
responsibility..
The woman who lured the poor Geordie into the van to make that tape..

This woman is now untouchable for her crimes the way things are..
Maggie, do not let yourself be the woman who let this happen..
Do not let yourself be discovered in this light, one day in the future
You do not want to be remembered this way...
Sort it out while you still can..
Contact Bev Foster Lancs Cops..

The Lady Will Not Turn..
Live by it,, truth and integrity to the truth..

Finnish it properly..

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On Feb 21, 8:17 pm, Rupert Bear <nutherpercept...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> On Feb 21, 6:52 pm, Rupert Bear <nutherpercept...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>

>
> > Oh yea you do succeed in what you do....People do not want to
> > associated with your nonsenceses..
>
> > .........................................................
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> > ............................................
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> But they just might think about them,,,!- Hide quoted text -

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It was always clear that I wasn't interested in other people's
approval or admiration.
I've done a good job.
What needed to be said has been said.
No one else was going to say those things.

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On Mar 3, 6:36 am, Rupert Bear <nutherpercept...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> It is long overdue someone who counts for something came askin me what
> and why I am about..
>
> I get no feedback at all..?
>
> http://s867.photobucket.com/albums/ab239/rupert-bear-2010/
>
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I agree you have introduced a new set of insights to the discussion of
the Yorkshire Ripper cover up.
Established crime writers and journalists should take you seriously.

However, this brings us back to the intended effect of the Gregg v.
O’Gara juryless, non-appealable libel ‘judgment.’
As I said, if a man has a house and a car and a job and a wife and a
child, he will greatly fear a libel accusation against him, and will
equally fear contesting an alleged libel against himself. It’s a
danger zone. Elsewhere, I listed three sad cases of people who
suffered greatly from losing such cases - notably Gillian Taylforth.

That fact that fear of a libel ‘judgment’ muzzles freedom of
expression is an issue that seems lost on most champions of human
rights / freedom of expression.

Maybe we should call in Joanna Lumley.

She’ll soon sort this out.

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As for me, and my occasional careless posts, well, I would liken them
approximately to the role of “The Fool” in a medieval king’s court…..

The Fool (who was anything but a fool) had an important role to play
in the set of social relations among the ruling class of the time. He
facilitated release of pent-up emotions, rivalries and resentments by
articulating them in an entertaining way in the context of a drunken
banquet.
His position was a bit similar to that of political satirists and
cartoonists today.
As long as he kept people laughing, The Fool could get away with
saying things anyone else would have been beheaded for saying.
It was a highly skilled profession.
Ironically, no job for a fool.
Is there a little bit of me there?

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I’m sorry, but I don’t think you will get any recognition for the work
you’ve done, although it is highly valuable.

Sadly, I expect all that will happen is that in a few decades from
now, when you and I and Noel O’Gara and Patrick Cullinane and James
Hobson and Margaret Thatcher etc. are all safely dead and buried or
cremated - then, and only then, established crime writers will find
the courage to start plagiarising your work and Mr O’Gara’s work,
etc., and will produce realistic books and TV documentaries exploring
the REAL truth about the Yorkshire Ripper cover up.

It’ll be the Richard McCann syndrome in perpetuity, with a slight
variation as follows:
Richard McCann makes money from lying about it.
Eventually there will be money to be made from telling the truth about
it.

But you and I will be long gone when they finally crawl out of the
woodwork and start telling the truth about the Yorkshire Ripper cover
up, and we probably will not be mentioned.

Draw comfort from the following words of Dr Immanuel Velikovsky:
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"Imagination coupled with scepticism and an ability to wonder
-
if you possess these, bountiful nature will hand you some of the
secrets out of her inexhaustible store.
The pleasure you will experience in discovering truth will repay you
for your
work.
Don't expect other compensation, because it may not
come.
Yet,
dare."
-Immanuel Velikovsky, 1953.

Rupert Bear

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On Feb 4, 11:02 am, Special Care <special.car...@gmail.com> wrote:
> =================================

>
>
> The purpose of the Gregg v. O’Gara juryless ‘judgment’ was only to
> supply a big stick to wave in the faces of website managers and
> individuals who dare to speak anything truthful about the Yorkshire
> Ripper cover-up.
>
> It’s working well.
>
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Mar 21, 2011, 9:05:32 AM3/21/11

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On Mar 18, 3:24 pm, Rupert Bear <nutherpercept...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> She could easily have stopped it, but instead helped to confound the
> police completely..
>
> The couple who were never traced... they were seen where Sutty was
> always missing..
> Chuckling into a guaranteed middle age by now i expect with grandkids
> even..

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If you are right, I don't know if she could have stopped it.
Human beings, both male and female, can be browbeaten and bullied into
submission.
It's sometimes called "folie-a-deux."
How can we apportion blame when a person is abused and intimidated
into submission?

Rupert Bear

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Mar 21, 2011, 11:49:07 AM3/21/11

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Well first of all you would have to find out if that person was indeed
intimidated and abused into submision to the extent that over a fife
year period
there was no opportunity for her to call the Police..
People may be trapped into a wrong thing once but to do it again and
again and over a period of years is another matter..

The only folly-duo I can think of was a couple of girls from Ireland
who went off on a trip to London a few years back,,, There was some
fantastic coverage of these two creating havoc on the motorway..
getting run over and all sorts was happening as the police tried to
round them up...There was a sort of madness of the mind they just
bounced off cars in the middle of the motorway and got up again until
one was squished by a bus.. True and extraordinary...
I think the other one went off and killed somebody laterer...It was a
sort of mutual madness that was triggered when those two came
together...
Folly-duo sounds quite descriptive to me in relation to this twin
madness that brought about its own end in a few days..

You always have to remember that the Ripper case is something that
evolved over five years,, you place a young couple in that timeframe
and try to build it again from the start..
We don’t need any fancy pants French excuses to confuse the issues
here,, the story I have in mind is much more down to earth.. More like
partners in crime with the letters and tape serving a dual purpose,,
establishing the jack ripper re-make, yes ,, but at the same time
leading the hunt away in the opposite direction.. The letters and
tape came near the end after some close calls and a massive increased
publicity of the case,, it mushroomed after Miss Macdonald..
Consider the hunted feeling they then had to live with,, especially
her appreciation of the situation and their future prospects..
The letters and tape make perfect sense when seen from a self-
preservation point of view,, the constant everyday fear of discovery,,
of that damm loudmouth boy giving himself away..
Oh yea,, a ladys fear of discovery,, craft and cunning,, fit into this
picture very well ,,
Her intuition and suss tempering his brutal indifference and logic,,
it was probably her idea to give them a real Geordie to chase....
I do not see the lady as a victim or a weak person witlessly carried
along,, she would have been quite strong willed, exorcising a control
and caution on his activities with a view to their future freedom..
Her prioritys were not getting caught,,,ever... long term security...
Folly-duo my axxx,, more like a coming together of brains and brawn,,

An she succeeded 100%..

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Special Care

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Apr 8, 2011, 9:54:10 AM4/8/11

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Well, you seem to have a particular couple in mind.
However, those who never met you or them can't share your conviction.

One useful proposition would be to reduce the Yorkshire Ripper Cover-
up to its core of non-debatable, undeniable essentials.

But then, the problem is that The Yorkshire Ripper Cover-up is a BIG
LIE, and the people are afraid to challenge big lies. The guy or gal
who ordered Gregory into the fake press conference knew that. Tell BIG
LIES, and you'll get away with them, as the little people are afraid
of the implications of challenging big lies.

For that very reason, it might be useful to list the core essentials
of the case that cannot be denied except by little people who are
afraid of big lies.

But then if even David Yallop, "the greatest investigative writer in
the world," can't cope with BIG LIES and investigates only small lies,
like some pope dying of "natural causes"................ then what
hope is there?

I still can't quite figure out how David Yallop, "the greatest
investigative writer in the world," could have missed the frequent
reports in the media during 1978-80 stating that the West Yorkshire
Police were seeking not one but two men in connection with the series
of murders.

His book was researched during those two years. So how did he miss
those frequent media reports?

Then, the arrest and confessions of Sutcliffe created a FAKE AXIOM,
and from there on all data were (mis)interpreted so as to fit that
FAKE AXIOM.

It's a common human psychological reflex.
See only what fits your fake axioms.
Deny or ignore or ridicule or punish anything that does not fit your
fake axioms.

Rupert Bear

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Apr 11, 2011, 1:41:51 AM4/11/11

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On Apr 8, 2:54 pm, Special Care <special.car...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Well, you seem to have a particular couple in mind.

I do,,,, the problem is that he died quite a few years ago,, but his
wife survives,,,!!
>
Another problem is that the solution is rather too embarrassing to be
made known..

Can you imagine,, four million quid plus all sorts of other hidden
costs by now,, an all we got
for our money was that joker,,, Humble...
I went to Sunderland Library a couple of times and found a name i am
quietly confident about...
Cost me forty quid in petrol...

Na,,, nobody wants to know,, could never believe it....

The most difficult thing for me is the way it came back to haunt my
life again thirty years later...
and set in motion a chain of events which result in my posting here ..

I drove 150 miles to Leeds incident room in 1980,, and they were not
interested because he was not a Geordie,,
It had become a matter of extreme urgency otherwise I would not have
bothered,, but the local cops would only refer my statement to Leeds
and say two or three weeks... It was not good enough,, it was really
urgent because the guy had been living in my house for some weeks and
knew that I had reported him to the Police,, I felt certain something
was going to happen,, I thought he would be after me...
The detective asked me if he spoke with a Sunderland accent and i saw
his eyes glaze over from the moment i told him no..
The case had gone to sleep and the detective had heard it all before,,
I could do nothing with him at all..and was forced to leave with
nothing more than a promise that he would be looked into in due
course..

Four or maybe five days later Miss Hill was killed in Leeds,, the
ripper had returned to kill again after a gap of fourteen months,, and
that damm tape was played over and over again... And do you know what
happened,, the Police came and checked me out straight away because i
was known to have been in Leeds recently,, luckily my partner was with
me all the time...

I have been in this position before,, my current situation has a
strong sense of the de ja vue about it..
And there just is not very much you can do about it when the Police
will not do their job..
But there must still be many people down there with a hunger for an
answer that makes sense...
Who deserve an answer that makes sense.. Not from me,, from the proper
authorities...

> But then if even David Yallop, "the greatest investigative writer in
> the world," can't cope with BIG LIES and investigates only small lies,
> like some pope dying of "natural causes"................ then what
> hope is there?
>
> I still can't quite figure out how David Yallop, "the greatest
> investigative writer in the world," could have missed the frequent
> reports in the media during 1978-80 stating that the West Yorkshire
> Police were seeking not one but two men in connection with the series
> of murders.
>
> His book was researched during those two years. So how did he miss
> those frequent media reports?
>

I think it is more to do with how you evaluate those news reports
because it is true
to say that almost any attack on on a woman at that time would herald
press speculation of another Ripper victim,,
and when they eliminated the attack from the series they were then
very keen on the second ripper headlines..
A lot of it was just good copy to feed the histeria,, sold papers i
expect...
Yallop records that there were thought to be several other men
attacking women during those years and i think
that is the truth of the matter,, there were other attacks committed
by other men,, but not connected with the ripper series..
It was only very late on in the case that Oldfield rather vaguely
began to suggest there were two connected in the Ripper series..
They probably would have had riots if they ever offically anounced
that there were two people acting together...
And what with all the reward money on offer,, I think they hoped for
the other person might come forward if not incriminated..
They kept an awful lot of information back at the time...

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I was down the Sunday market yesterday looking for a pipe cutter and
I heard a voice,, my hearing is a bit worn out ,like the rest of me,,
and i could not tell what the voice said,, about three or four words
was all,, but I knew instantly who it was... I have not spoken or had
anything to do with this guy for over two years but I recognised the
sound of his voice instantly..
This is one of the things people do not take fully on board,, people
recognise familiar voices very easily,, Humble had a brother and
sister and family,, he was also a frequent social drinker with
aquaintances who most definately would have recognised him if it was
his voice on the tape..

And well,, when you start totting up the chances of him being able to
predict three killings and ask,,,if it was him,, and,,, why did they
not get him back in 79..?? We are now force fed a total nonsence with
three entirely separate individuals,, all supposedly with rare blood
type B and all became involved in Oldfields Ripper case,,, quite by
chance..?

I think there are a lot of people who can see very well that their
resolution does not make any kind of sense,, but what can they do,,?
Humbles conviction is the most transparent false conviction you are
ever likely to come across,,
But what can anyone do when the Police have the magic DNA bullet,,
and can just say it wos him cos we said so...

There must be some very serious support for the endless fiction
printed about this case coming from quite high up in the food chain..
So what can a little guy like me do.. How far out on the limb do I
have to go when there is no help available from anyone...

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