Semantic Radar - your help needed!

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Uldis Bojars

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Apr 1, 2008, 8:50:02 PM4/1/08
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Hi All,

Semantic Radar 0.95 (announced here earlier on) is waiting in the
approval queue of addons.mozilla.org.

In order to get published it needs at least 2 more reviews. If you are
using it and find it helpful, we would greatly appreciate if your
could go to [1] and write a short review.

Also, there is currently a bug that prevents the extension from
properly running with FF3.0 (hence, it does not claim compatibility
with this FF version yet). If you have an idea how to fix it, please
tell us or just fix it (it's open source, after all). The "formal"
compatibility check would not be a problem, it can be fixed or
overriden (see [2]) but there seems to be an incompatibility somewhere
in the code that actually does the job. We'll get to it, but it can
take some time.

[1] https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/3886
[2] http://groups.google.com/group/sioc-dev/browse_thread/thread/cc8d2632fe49f297

P.S. It is exciting to read good words left by the addons.mozilla.org
reviewer: "RDF is quite confusing if you don't 'get it'. This
extension makes RDF interesting and it is very easy to use. Nice
work!" :)

Cheers,
Uldis

[ http://captsolo.net/info/ ]

Peter Ansell

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Apr 1, 2008, 9:15:28 PM4/1/08
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On my Mac the Options dialog does not close without hitting escape,
which is not natural for a popup dialog as it loses all of the changes
that you make in it. It really needs a close button.

It is also not clear to me which version of the icon is on and which
is off, there should be a right-click context menu to explicitly show
whether it is on or off.

It has shown me items in the past though and was suitable for SIOC and
FOAF notifications if they were detected on a given page.

It would be nice to have the option for a generic RDF browser if it
detects arbitrary RDF which doesn't fit with SIOC or FOAF profiles.

Cheers,

Peter

Uldis Bojars

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Apr 1, 2008, 9:49:15 PM4/1/08
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Hi Peter,

Thanks a lot for feedback!

On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 2:15 AM, Peter Ansell <ansell...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On my Mac the Options dialog does not close without hitting escape,
> which is not natural for a popup dialog as it loses all of the changes
> that you make in it. It really needs a close button.

Thanks. I saw this on a Mac too, we will try to fix this as soon as
possible. This is a good reminder that what works on one OS might not
work on another (even though we try it on different OSs before
releasing). :/

What we need is a small team of people using different OSs and version
of Firefox who can do early testing of new versions (the more testers,
the better). Could you give similar testing to the new version once it
comes out?

> It is also not clear to me which version of the icon is on and which
> is off, there should be a right-click context menu to explicitly show
> whether it is on or off.

A good point. Would a tooltip do? Currently it suggests to press the
button to change pinging status, but it can as well report the current
status.

> It would be nice to have the option for a generic RDF browser if it
> detects arbitrary RDF which doesn't fit with SIOC or FOAF profiles.

The SIOC browser will display any RDF (it has become a generic RDF
browser and apparently needs a name change). It can still be a bit
raw, suggestions for improvements are welcome.

If you wish to choose another browser, there is RDF rendering option
which will do that (see attached screenshot) - though you might not be
able to use it because of problems with the options dialogue. We did
not choose any particular generic RDF browser at this point - just
enter the URL of the browser of your choice. If you have the Tabulator
extension installed, try "Display raw RDF" option and the RDF data
detected should show up in the Tabulator.

Uldis

semradar-render-options.png

Peter Ansell

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Apr 1, 2008, 10:04:56 PM4/1/08
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On 02/04/2008, Uldis Bojars <capt...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Peter,
>
> Thanks a lot for feedback!
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 2:15 AM, Peter Ansell <ansell...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > On my Mac the Options dialog does not close without hitting escape,
> > which is not natural for a popup dialog as it loses all of the changes
> > that you make in it. It really needs a close button.
>
>
> Thanks. I saw this on a Mac too, we will try to fix this as soon as
> possible. This is a good reminder that what works on one OS might not
> work on another (even though we try it on different OSs before
> releasing). :/
>
> What we need is a small team of people using different OSs and version
> of Firefox who can do early testing of new versions (the more testers,
> the better). Could you give similar testing to the new version once it
> comes out?

I would be interested in testing out new versions for Mac, Linux and
Windows XP as I have access to all three.

> > It is also not clear to me which version of the icon is on and which
> > is off, there should be a right-click context menu to explicitly show
> > whether it is on or off.
>
>
> A good point. Would a tooltip do? Currently it suggests to press the
> button to change pinging status, but it can as well report the current
> status.

A tooltip would be nice. It isn't quite clear that status means
pinging status btw in the current tooltip.

> > It would be nice to have the option for a generic RDF browser if it
> > detects arbitrary RDF which doesn't fit with SIOC or FOAF profiles.
>
>
> The SIOC browser will display any RDF (it has become a generic RDF
> browser and apparently needs a name change). It can still be a bit
> raw, suggestions for improvements are welcome.

That is nice to hear. I should take a look at it some more.

> If you wish to choose another browser, there is RDF rendering option
> which will do that (see attached screenshot) - though you might not be
> able to use it because of problems with the options dialogue. We did
> not choose any particular generic RDF browser at this point - just
> enter the URL of the browser of your choice. If you have the Tabulator
> extension installed, try "Display raw RDF" option and the RDF data
> detected should show up in the Tabulator.

It would be nice to have SemanticRadar show the existence of arbitrary
RDF as given by either the actual page being RDF, or there being a
link rel=alternate type=application/rdf+xml, so that Tabulator doesn't
have to be active all the time, and a link between them would be nice.
Unless I am misunderstanding what SemanticRadar and Tabulator are
capable of doing right now.
Peter

Uldis Bojars

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Apr 2, 2008, 7:29:51 AM4/2/08
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On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 1:50 AM, Uldis Bojars <capt...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Semantic Radar 0.95 (announced here earlier on) is waiting in the
> approval queue of addons.mozilla.org.
>
> In order to get published it needs at least 2 more reviews. If you are
> using it and find it helpful, we would greatly appreciate if your
> could go to [1] and write a short review.

Forgot to mention:

Reviews can be for any version of the Semantic Radar. If you have
written about it already, can just copy & paste the existing review
into the form.

Uldis

[ http://captsolo.net/info/ ]

Uldis Bojars

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Jun 22, 2008, 7:16:44 PM6/22/08
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On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 3:04 AM, Peter Ansell <ansell...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I would be interested in testing out new versions for Mac, Linux and
> Windows XP as I have access to all three.

Semantic Radar 1.0 is out now. Please let us know if you notice any
irregularities (this version seems to be good, but then again ...
feedback helps)

> A tooltip would be nice. It isn't quite clear that status means
> pinging status btw in the current tooltip.

Fixed, added a tooltip indicating pinging status.

>> (for an earlier email)


> On my Mac the Options dialog does not close without hitting escape,
> which is not natural for a popup dialog as it loses all of the changes
> that you make in it. It really needs a close button.

Fixed, the Options dialog should be working OK on a Mac now - just set
preferences and they will come into effect right away.

Note: there will be no Close button on the Options dialog on a Mac but
any changes will get applied immediately instead (this is how other
Firefox preferences windows work on a Mac and apparently is what Apple
human interface guidelines suggest).

Uldis

[ http://captsolo.net/ ]

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