Re: Chung posts million dollar guarantee?
Art Deco
>http://mabletonga.ourlittle.net/Guarantee
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>Careful with that alleged money, Quackie...
>Looks like even YOU doubt the effectiveness of your quack 'diet'.
Note that this carefully worded scambait doesn't really promise a
million smackeroos if you regain body weight, all it says is that fraud
and quack "Dr. Andrew Chung has allocated one million dollars as a
guarantee that those who use the 2PD-OMER Approach will achieve
sustained weight loss."
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>From: Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - view profile
>Date: Fri, May 31 2002 10:04 am
>Email: "Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <and...@heartmdphd.com>
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>Bud wrote:
>> Then all your claims of success, especially long-term success, are premature
>> at this point in time.
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>I have made no claims of long-term success with the 2 lb diet.
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>Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
>Atlanta Cardiologist
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>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diabetes/msg/80b029a349e01...
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>You remain convicted - and hoist by your own petard!
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>The Holy Spirit
What a liar he is.
Childers@noemail.not Karl Childers
> Demon Chunky Style <redja...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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>> http://mabletonga.ourlittle.net/Guarantee
>>
>> Careful with that alleged money, Quackie...
>> Looks like even YOU doubt the effectiveness of your quack 'diet'.
>
> Note that this carefully worded scambait doesn't really promise a
> million smackeroos if you regain body weight, all it says is that
> fraud and quack "Dr. Andrew Chung has allocated one million dollars
> as a guarantee that those who use the 2PD-OMER Approach will achieve
> sustained weight loss."
Not to get off the subject but .....
<soap box>
All so-called 'diets' are scams. Not just Chung's.
Losing weight is a simple matter of science and will power. If you burn
more calories on a daily basis than you take in, you will most certainly
lose weight. And it doesn't really matter what form those calories arrive
in, so long as it's a fairly balanced meal.
Although? I suppose one would still lose weight if they got 5000 calories a
day solely from chocolate cake, so long as they burned at least 6000. They
just wouldn't be very healthy for very long.
The problem with most people is that they don't have the will power to
either eat less of a decent meal, and/or get more exercise.
I've been doing both of the above for the past five months and I've lost
almost 50 pounds. Still eat the same things I always have. Just less. And
now I make sure I get some exercise in the form of a brisk walk at least a
couple times a week. Went from 230 to 182 in five months and I didn't need
a book or an intervention by the "Holy Spirit" to assist me along the way.
Just some self discipline and common sense.
Sorry to interrupt, but I just HAD to throw that in. I have zero respect
for anyone who author's a so-called "diet book".
Might as well write a "quit smoking" book. Same thing. It all boils down
to what's inside the individual. And no book in the world can change that.
Only the person can.
</soap box>
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> demon AD wrote:
There is no book for the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/overweight.asp
The solution is freely downloadable off the Internet:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/wtloss.asp
The million dollar guarantee is real:
http://MabletonGA.OurLittle.net/Guarantee
The legality of the guarantee has been affirmed by a disinterested
third party:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a01629967ecf5a74?
The rules in a nutshell are given here:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a01629967ecf5a74?
For the logistical details simply attend the next health fair:
May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water curing our
diabetes, depression, anxiety or panic so that we can love our
neighbors a little more and LORD Jesus Christ a lot more, dear neighbor
Karl whom I love unconditionally.
Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit
As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
(Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love
miguel
> <soap box>
> </soap box>
Congratulations on your weight loss. There is, however, a fair amount
more involved with dieting for long-term, sustained results than you let
on. Timing of nutrients before and after workouts will affect how those
nutrients are partitioned in your body. Dieting without some form of
resistance training will lead to loss of more lean mass than with
resistance training.
So far as diet book authors are concerned, you might wish to read a bit
more, in both books and academic journals, before you dismiss the lot of
them. One in particular, Lyle McDonald, is worth looking into, if you
wish to follow a protocol that will save lean mass while losing fat.
miguel
Childers@noemail.not Karl Childers
Thank you. It's not easy, by any means. I LIKE my food. :-)
> There is, however, a fair amount
> more involved with dieting for long-term, sustained results than you
> let on. Timing of nutrients before and after workouts will affect how
> those nutrients are partitioned in your body. Dieting without some
> form of resistance training will lead to loss of more lean mass than
> with resistance training.
But I'm not "dieting" per se. I'm simply eating less of what I always ate.
I haven't changed the "menu". Just the amount I consume at a sitting.
That, and I've added in the exercise I was lacking previously.
> So far as diet book authors are concerned, you might wish to read a
> bit more, in both books and academic journals, before you dismiss the
> lot of them. One in particular, Lyle McDonald, is worth looking into,
> if you wish to follow a protocol that will save lean mass while
> losing fat.
I figure I'll just keep doing what I'm doing as the weight loss has kinda
leveled off.
Although I've been at it for around five months now, the majority of the
weight came off in the first 3-3.5 months. Since then it's been gradual,
and in the past few weeks I've noticed I'm actually going up and down a
pound or two. But at 6'1" with a "medium" build, I'm happy and feeling
great anywhere between 180 and 185 at 49 years of age.
Like I said. It's just science and will power.
Owl
Is a frequent and proven liar (evidence archived forever on Google)
Has lost numerous NNTP accounts with supernews and others, has had many
Google accounts nuked, and his vanity domain heartmdphd.com is now
banned from setting up accounts. He is instead using multiple Google
sock accounts and email addresses in the format l...@thetruth.com (#
being a number)
Is unemployed after being sacked with cause from his one and only job
after just over 80 days
Fled the state of Florida, and now claims to practice in Georgia
despite
having no admission priveliges in the State's hospitals
Runs a phony foundation with a total declared income of circa $200, the
ownership and contact details of which are obfuscated on its website
Makes failed prophecies concerning earthquakes with areas and dates,
which don't happen (remember the bible quotes about false prophets)
Performed a public attempt at 'exorcising' a Malaysian sock on usenet,
then denied doing it. He has recently reversed position again and
admits
to practicing exorcism by usenet, proving himself a liar in the
process.
Promotes a dangerous diet, with a million dollar guarantee that he
demands thirty dollars to access details of. This despite being
unemployed. His soliciting and spamming for donations looks to be
similar to the Nigerian Advance Fee Fraud, where victims pay money
upfront in the hope of coming into money but find they have merely
bought into a lie. Part of his advice is to pour nail polish remover
onto food.
Declares he has a cardiology practice despite posting night and day
from
the same IP address (his home presumably) or a coffee shop internet
cafe
Makes further false prophecies that we should now be all dying in a
bird
flu pandemic. When these fail to happen, he does them all over again
and
changes the dates. Nuclear war is another Chung spciality, which
naturally doesn't happen when he says it is going to.
Worships evil hatemonger Fred Phelps and will not denounce the acts of
Westboro's congregation. He even accuses someone with the name Phelps
of
being Fred's son and refuses to accept he is completely wrong.
Uses the same patter as Pat Robertson, indicating his religious
activity
is confined to watching cable TV. No evidence Chung has ever attended a
church.
Has a tendency to cyberstalk, particularly women. His wife fled some
time ago to another state, an act which Chung tries to pass of as
"being
on vacation".
Frequently passes himself off as being qualified in areas such as
endocrinology, despite making incredibly funddamental blunders in his
'advice'. It is no wonder the Florida heart facility terminated him,
and
has publicly denounced his version of events. Again archived on Google.
Don't forget the fake fast, where he didn't lose any weight, as well as
the infamous 666 stamping fiasco.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew Chung:
>
> Is a frequent and proven liar (evidence archived forever on Google)
To prove that someone is liar, which is someone who has been untrue
with the intent to deceive, requires not only evidence of
untruthfulness but also GOD's gift of clairvoyance to know the intent.
There is only one exception to this rule:
Short of having GOD's gift of clairvoyance, calling anyone a liar
automatically makes you a liar.
Truth is simple.
Truth is absolute.
Truth is invincible.
This victory belongs to LORD Jesus Christ, Who is the truth.
"I am the way, the truth, and the life..." -- LORD Jesus Christ
Amen ! ! Laus Deo ! ! ! Marana tha ! ! ! ! ! ! !
Yes, it remains my choice to love GOD with all my heart, soul, mind,
and strength:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/fear.asp
Fear GOD and dread nothing that is of this world:
http://MabletonGA.OurLittle.net/DreadNought
Your consolation prize is eternal life if you wisely choose to
surrender to HIM:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/fcb058da12bb3f3d?
May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water curing our
diabetes, depression, anxiety or panic so that we can love our
neighbors a little more and LORD Jesus Christ a lot more, dear neighbor
Owl whom I love unconditionally.
Free Lunch
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lo...@thetruth.com> wrote in
<1167343778.7...@48g2000cwx.googlegroups.com>:
>Neighbor Owl wrote:
>> Andrew Chung:
>>
>> Is a frequent and proven liar (evidence archived forever on Google)
>
>To prove that someone is liar, which is someone who has been untrue
>with the intent to deceive, requires not only evidence of
>untruthfulness but also GOD's gift of clairvoyance to know the intent.
>
>There is only one exception to this rule:
>
>Short of having GOD's gift of clairvoyance, calling anyone a liar
>automatically makes you a liar.
>
>Truth is simple.
Rarely.
>Truth is absolute.
I've not seen an example of it. Do you mean "It is absolutely true that
there is no evidence to support the claim that there are any gods;" or
"It is absolutely true that there is no evidence for an afterlife."
>Truth is invincible.
You have to tell us what this perfect truth is, and your religious
doctrines cannot be shown to be true or defensible.
Art Deco
>There is no book for the 2PD-OMER Approach:
No one would buy such transparent tripe if such a tome were to be
published, Chunk.
>The million dollar guarantee is real:
Con man.
[host of support ngs snecked]
Art Deco
>Neighbor Owl wrote:
>> Andrew Chung:
>>
>> Is a frequent and proven liar (evidence archived forever on Google)
>
>To prove that someone is liar, which is someone who has been untrue
>with the intent to deceive, requires not only evidence of
>untruthfulness but also GOD's gift of clairvoyance to know the intent.
>
>There is only one exception to this rule:
>
>Short of having GOD's gift of clairvoyance, calling anyone a liar
>automatically makes you a liar.
Note: please add "weasel" to the list of Chunk attributes.
[support groups flushed]
Jaguar
Unfortunately this asshole chang may be practicing
License Number: 40347 Designation: MD
Licensure Date(MM/DD/YYYY): 08/03/1995
Issued in another State: Licensure Date in another state
(MM/DD/YYYY):
Address:
5701 Mableton Parkway 2 B MABLETON, GA 30126 US
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Unfortunately this asshole chang may be practicing
No such thing as either fortunately or unfortunately when everything
that the world would credit to chance happens by GOD, Creator of heaven
and earth (Proverbs 16:33)
Clearly you remain convicted by the Holy Spirit:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water curing our
diabetes, depression, anxiety or panic so that we can love our
neighbors a little more and LORD Jesus Christ a lot more, dear neighbor
Art Deco
>Convicted neighbor Jaguar wrote:
Hypocrite.
>> Unfortunately this asshole chang may be practicing
>
>No such thing as either fortunately or unfortunately when everything
>that the world would credit to chance happens by GOD, Creator of heaven
>and earth (Proverbs 16:33)
>
>Clearly you remain convicted by the Holy Spirit:
>
>http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
>
Still spamming your link, weasel?
Pastor Kutchie
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> Neighbor Owl wrote:
> > Andrew Chung:
> >
> > Is a frequent and proven liar (evidence archived forever on Google)
>
> To prove that someone is liar, which is someone who has been untrue
> with the intent to deceive, requires not only evidence of
> untruthfulness but also GOD's gift of clairvoyance to know the intent.
>
> There is only one exception to this rule:
>
> Short of having GOD's gift of clairvoyance, calling anyone a liar
> automatically makes you a liar.
>
Absolute bollocks. Knowing that a person is wilfully making statements
they either know not to be true or are not in a position to know the
truth of, entitles anybody to call that person a liar. You are not in a
position to know anything about anything that involves the human
condition, since you are a psychopath. That makes anything you say
about any human concerns automatically a lie.
> Truth is simple.
>
If you were human and not a psychopath, you would not in honesty make
such a crass statement.
> Truth is absolute.
>
The absolute truth is that you are full of shit.
> Truth is invincible.
>
Stop trying to defeat it, then.
> This victory belongs to LORD Jesus Christ, Who is the truth.
>
False.
> "I am the way, the truth, and the life..." -- LORD Jesus Christ
>
The person quoted cannot be ascertained to have existed and there is no
evidence that he did, so false again.
> Amen ! ! Laus Deo ! ! ! Marana tha ! ! ! ! ! ! !
>
"Daylight come and me wan' go home."- Harry Belafonte.
> Yes, it remains my choice to love GOD with all my heart, soul, mind,
> and strength:
>
It remains your prison to be devoid of human empathy and comprehension
of human matters.
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