South Regionals
MH
To all the fellas in the place, that don't give a damn what these
other Regions talkin' bout, cause you just tryin to get your South on,
make some nooooiiiise.
I wanna hear it all, seedings, sectionals recaps, predictions, and a
short description of the last girl Casey slept with. Keep the
transplanted Southers in the loop.
-MH
Scotty
Here are the teams if no one declines a bid:
Texas State
Texas
Texas A&M
Rice
North Texas
Kansas
Missouri
Oklahoma
Arkansas
Wash U
Kansas State
Harding
SLU
Alabama
LSU
Mississippi State
Throw
they'll revert to their early 1990s name ... "Slow Children."
http://www.pixelperfectdigital.com/free_stock_photos/data/589/medium/021708_slow_children.jpg
Slow Children was a likable squad of players back then...just ..you
know...a bit slow.
Lance Marput
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZem_MziKeI
Naji
they don't face each other first round.
UBER_IHUC
> I predict the Ozarks win 6 of their 8 first round
> matchups assuming
> they don't face each other first round.
That was a good sectional
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> That was a good sectional
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-The Ozark Section was the most competitive I've seen in my five
years. Look no further than Truman State, a team I thought was in
contention for a Nationals birth, not even making it out. I'm not sure
what happened but I know they were battling injuries to their top
players most of the year.
- Ozark Sectionals should never be held in Buder Park ever again.
small unlined fields and Rolled ankles central. Additionally, No
fastest person, longest pull, or longest hammer, WTF!
-It would be wise not to sleep on Tuff despite them coming in as the
6,7or8 seed.
Reggie Fanelli
> they don't face each other first round.
---AWESOME!!!
i hope it happens!
now.....what's the Ozarks section and who does that include?
Doc
didn't show up to the fields Sunday. Who knows who he slept
with while in there.
I'm gunna be the first to cast doubt that the Ozarks sends a
team to Nationals this year.
Texas State looked good this weekend and going into
Regionals as the number 1 seed gives them the advantage over
just about everyone.
Other than that A&M played amazing their first game of the
day against Rice in the Semis Sunday morning. Without a
doubt the most complete game by any team all weekend and
probably the only team that played shutdown defense.
During the finals State did a great job though of exposing
A&M with their deep game. Assuming State's deep game is just
as good or better going into Regionals, there's probably few
teams that can stop them.
On a sad note, Sean Kelley from UNT had a tragic accident
Sunday morning against Tech that sent him to the hospital
with a blown knee. Keep him in your thoughts and/or
prayers.
- Doc
mvuong
splash this year and go very deep at Regionals. In general,
this is probably the weakest the South has been in awhile so
a lot more teams this year have a chance at Nationals.
ajax
Will
and one Ozark team advances to Nationals. There is a lot of parity out
there this year and I would be surprised if there wasn't at least one
upset. Curious to see how the rankings pan out and who gets the DIII
bid.
Slade
injury mid-season?
MH
not in charge anymore) I know nothing about this season so this is
just based on what ajax threw up and an eye test, so tell me where I'm
wrong.
1. Tx St (easy)
2. Kansas (easy)
3/4. Tex/MU (Tex has RRI, MU common opp)
5. Alabama
6. OU
7. A+M
8. Arkansas
9. Wash U
10. Kan St
11. Harding
12. LSU
13. Rice
14. UNT
15. Miss St
16. SLU
Doesn't look easy to seed everything with wacky results from this
season, at least the ones I could find on score reporter. Having UNT
in the bottom of the bracket could be trouble for someone, but there
doesn't seem to be many choices. Big log jam of Ozarks teams before
you can make an argument for LSU and Rice based on the results that
are up. I didn't look too long though, maybe I'm missing something
someone can correct me on. Anyways, start doing the thing where we
all yell and call each other names. I love that.
-MH
Will
Gray
scoped, however he was back at about 90% this weekend at
sectionals.
Duchamanos
enough water to last through games on Saturday, and free food instead
of booths set up to sell food. Also, the tournament directors will
have had to have paid for the use of the fields. Additionally, the
fields will not have big clumps of grass/dirt/mole holes for people to
hurt their ankles/knees on, nor will the fields have sticks/logs on
them, nor will the fields occasionally have a rusty nail in the
endzone that players will find halfway through the game when one of
them steps on it during a time out. Nor will Frisbee Central be a
quarter mile away from the closest field, and the closest field is a
mile from the furthest field.
Ozark sectionals at Buder Park- Where did that $200 go?
BJ
head, this is what I got:
1. Tx State
2. KU
3. Mizzou
4/5. Bama/OU (Both above arkansas)
6. Arkansas
7. Wash U (beat TUFF)
8. TUFF
9/10/11. LSU/aTm/Harding
12. Kansas St. (beat rice)
13. Rice
14. UNT
15. Miss. St. (beat st. louis)
16. St. Louis
Mardis Gras and Big D Little D were decisive factors for the
south.
rhbi...@gmail.com
I'll take the loss of chatter as agreement in this seeding.
Hopefully, the RC doesn't screw it up too much like he did the field
location.
BJ
1. Tx State
2. KU
3. Mizzou
4. OU >(beat north park)
5. Bama >(beat arkansas, lost to north park)
6. Arkansas
7. Wash U (beat TUFF)
8. TUFF
9. Harding > (dearth of
10. aTm > differentiating
11. LSU > common opponents, went to RRI)
12. Kansas St. (beat rice)
13. Rice
14. UNT
15. Miss. St. (beat st. louis)
16. St. Louis
BJ
homo-sectional (LOL) match ups.
Old Man- Retired
> I'll take the loss of chatter as agreement in this seeding.
> Hopefully, the RC doesn't screw it up too much like he did the field
> location.
Depends on where you live. As his roommate... I agree!
Scotty
Tuff Wash U Arkansas Bama
Harding Atm LSU Kansas St.
St Louis MSU UNT Rice
those seedings also work well if pool play is used. pools only have
maximum of 2 teams from a section.
Michael Moore
Mmmm those are some good looking pools...
ajax
differential. Use brackets.
Michael Moore
> Pool play sucks! Let head to head loses eliminate teams not point
> differential. Use brackets.
just win your games and you don't have to worry about point diff
ajax
Brilliant! Now no pool will ever end up with a tie again. You have
solved the same record tie break problem.
Scotty
tournament throughout the season utilizes pool play saturday to seed
into a bracket sunday? Even college and club championships start with
pool play and then go into bracket play.
matt francis
SEEDS:
System used; Take the highest seed (in order of finish at
sectionals) left from each section and compare them:
1.) Head to head
2.) no particular order - Common opponent/ RRI / Overall
season (looking later in the season as more important)
Seeds:
1.) TEXAS STATE Won Texas section, Beat Kansas, beat
Alabama
2.) KANSAS Won Ozarks, Over Texas on common opponents
Arkansas and Washington U., same common opponent, record,
higher RRI than Alabama
3.) MISSOURI - Over Texas on common opponents Ark and Wash
U., similar results against common opponents, almost same
RRI, Missouri with overall better season.
4.) ALABAMA Won Bama, Over Texas on common opponents, Over
OU on common opponent Arkansas.
5.) TEXAS both lost to Arkansas, OU beat WASH U, much
higher RRI than OU, more impressive second half of season
than OU, beat LSU on RRI.
6.) OKLAHOMA - Over Texas A & M on head to head, Over LSU on
common opponent Winona State.
7.) ARKANSAS - Over Texas A & M on common opponent Texas,
higher RRI than LSU
8.) WASH U - Over Texas A & M on common opponent Texas, Over
LSU on common opponent Indiana.
9.) HARDING - Both lost to Kansas, higher RRI than Texas A &
M, Over LSU, same result against common opponents, higher
RRI
10.) KANSAS STATE better RRI than Texas A & M and LSU
11.) TEXAS A & M - higher RRI than LSU and St. Louis
12.) LSU - Over St. Louis on head to head with Miss St.,
Over Rice on RRI
13.) MISSISSIPPI ST. - Beat St. Louis, Over Rice on RRI
14.) ST. LOUIS - Higher RRI than Rice
15.) RICE
16.) NORTH TEXAS
Allen
Either Texas (2419) > Missouri (2349) and Texas (2419) > Bama (2360)
based on RRI or you should not use RRI to put Texas (2419) > OU
(2394).
I'm not sure if common opponents or RRI are a better/stronger
argument, but it's interesting that you use common opponents to
justify Missouri over Texas and ignore those same common opponents in
favor of a weaker RRI signal when comparing Texas to OU.
Spencer
feeling based off my understanding of the team's abilities:
1. TX STATE - results vs Michigan, Kansas, Wash U, and at
sectionals are impressive. I don't think there is any doubt
they deserve the #1.
2. Kansas - The Ozarks is strong this year despite what some
people are saying outside of the Ozarks. They are a
steadfast team that knows how to win (even without Axel).
3. Mizzou - There seems to be a growing consensus that
mizzou deserves the 3rd spot. The strong season mizzou has
had is no fluke. Strong in leadership and bench play it
will be hard for any team to run with the mutants.
4. Arkansas - They beat OU at sectionals 13-6 only lost to
KU by 1. In the Ozarks, we all know the raw talent this
players can exhibit. I was fully expecting them to get to
the finals at Sectionals.
5. Oklahoma - Win over North Park and very strong sectionals
shows this team is getting better and better. And don't
expect many mistakes with a full line of 7 seniors.
6. Alabama - Gotta give Bama section some love and the top
seed there deserves to be in the top 5 at regionals. This
team looks like a 2 face, could be hot or cold.
7. LSU - very nice season. 9 players over 6 foot and a few
key guys who can throw it deep. I would not suggest playing
them underneath.
8. Wash U - Weaker this year than previous years, but still
very very good. Very hard to seed because losses vs key
opponents. I expect a surgical offense and a technical
defense.
9. Texas - All the losses don't look good. And the word on
the street has been that this team is the most vulnerable we
have seen in years. Although very impressive Sunday at
sectionals and I expect them to beat seed.
10/11. Kansas St./ aTm - Rough sunday at sectionals from
KSU.
12. Harding - Harding's go to players are strong. Although
they beat Kstate in my experience K State just has a
stronger/larger pool of players. Sorry Harding, I would
love to see another exciting Harding vs Top Bama or TX close
game!
13/14 Rice/UNT - I'm sure they have great squads but not
sure if they can run with the teams in other sections.
15. SLU - Yes they lost to Miss st at the beginning of the
season. But I believe they have better wins than Miss st.
(see Truman (twice), Missouri S&T) And when they get fired
up for a game they can be hard to beat.
16. Miss St. - some bad losses (Vanderbilt, Southern
Illinois..)
I disagree that the South is weak this year. I believe it
is very strong with a lot of parity. There is no doubt that
whatever the seedings are there will be suprises and upsets.
Good luck to all.
rhbi...@gmail.com
The choice to play Double Elim. or pool play was given to the teams.
I'm fairly certain, after talking with friends and contacts, it will
be straight Bracket play.
MSU Ultimate
Seedings are suppose to be out today
Doc
On the one hand we have people who obviously perform sexual
favors to UT players, due to the fact that they are one or
use to be, because they want to seed this team higher than
sixth going into this tourney simply because they use to be
a good team. Nothing against anyone who does or has played
for UT, I respect the hell out of their program; its
obviously the best in the region. BTW, Chris Brooks FOTY!
On the other hand, you have people using their gut instinct
to determine seeding....neat
My favorite are the blind-patriots who believe their section
is God and all the teams going to Regionals from that
section are the chosen people.
You fail to realize that your perception of the world is
somewhat skewed since you've only been to tourneys in the
Midwest this season. If any of these teams had faced decent
competition we'd have a clearer picture of who should be
seeded where. Look no further than Missouri, they've beat
some high school teams and other scrub schools and you want
to seed them third!! I'm sure they're a decent team
though...for the Midwest.
RRI? nobody even knows WTF this is all about. If you do
know, you're a dork. You probably read RSD everyday and
think Ultimate is the coolest sport on the planet. You might
also use words like roflcopter.
Let's face the facts. Not a single team in this Regional
tournament is ranked in the top 20, 30, or 40. Gratz on
whoever wins Regionals, have fun getting face-rolled at
Natties.
"Gosh, this guy is raging or something. Ultimate really is
the coolest sport ever. I need to listen to some Michael
Buble to calm down." - You
:d
- Doc
Mickey
Ryland "The Ryborg" Barton (Texas). Believe it. If the
steely-cold skills don't get you, those baby blues surely
will.
morado
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.sport.disc/browse_thread/thread/c5561377ef7daaa4?hl=en#
next time you think you're early, try not to be late.
Mike
happened? Anyone have any idea when we might get these?
BJ
this deadline, their results for this weekend will not be
counted.
The purpose for establishing this deadline is to allow the
teams to self prepare for opponents.
If the UPA has any questions, they can contact me at
Marley's Pizza, 555-5555.
Doc
Let's boycott stuff. How bout the UPA and maybe some banks
that are too big fail. After all, the UPA caused the
economic downturn.
Scotty
BJ
Torre
Texas St.
St Louis
Texas
Harding
Oklahoma
Rice
Alabama
Kansas St.
Missouri
N. Texas
Arkansas
LSU
Washington U
Texas A & M
Kansas
Miss. St.
--
Torre
The Dick Formerly Known As Dennis
this morning. Sorry folks.
Dennis
South Open RC
Reggie Fanelli
the UOA Post Season 8s May 22-23!
start making plans!
we'll be contacting you sunday evening....or feel free to contact me
directly.
Mike Gerics
UOA Director of Competition
agerics20 at yahoo dot com
Will
sauce
> Any results besides Texas St. and Harding advancing?
UNT over Missouri
UNT over LSU
KU over Miss St
KU over Wash U
UNT v KU next.
following Zontal updates here: http://twitter.com/robronco
-Fred
sauce
Looks like Buckets v Zontals in the finals.
Anyone know how Tuff finished the day?
Allen
Still alive.
backdoor quarters:
Oklahoma -v- texas
North texas -v- arkansas
brother
Arkanasas-LSU game when both teams agreed they were not
wanted. Is this normally the case? It was mostly
uneventful, but I thought it odd that we couldn't play some
7 on 7.
-Jacob #6 Arkansas
sauce
Thanks for the updates Robbie Reynolds.
Backdoor looks like Zontals v Texas
KK26
Texas St. and Kansas are moving on to Nationals
Patrick Keys
RCheskin
Kansas beats Texas on ultimate point to win 11-10.
Texas pulls to Kansas, and after a couple of turns, hucks to Loskorn
down the left sideline. Loskorn is wide open at the back of the
endzone, but thinks he is out of bounds and tries to greatest the disc
back into play. Turnover. The sideline near the endzone told me he
was about 3 feet in bounds when he caught the disc, but he tried to
greatest it before his feet touched the ground. Kansas takes
advantage of the lucky break and works it down the field with 10-15
yard throws until Justin Kaminsky seals the deal on an up-line cut to
the endzone. Game Kansas. One of the craziest finishes I have ever
seen.
Andrew Graff
assuming
they don't face each other first round.~~
Almost!
5 for 8 but that includes a loss to the dreaded 'Bama
section.
Overall 2nd, 4th, t5th, t7th, pretty good ozarks!
BUt what happened to Mizzou?
14 seed over the three seed, then a loss to the seven seed?
Bracket Buster!
ncrain
quite a few years, nice to see you guys finally get over the
hump. And nice job Kansas, way to rep the Ozarks.
OU #3
--
Nathan
OU #3
BrookDaves
Mizzou had to deal with an underestimated 14 seed. Don't forget LSU
was 11 over 6th Ark. I like that the 14 seed made it to semis, we
won't talk about sunday.
Congrats to Texas St. Program started the same year as UNT in the
2004-2005 season. The Texas section now has two teams to go to
Nationals in the first 6 years of their existence. I think that is
huge, seeing how the section has grown from ~10-20 in the past 6
years. Congrats to Ed and Walch and the other 5th year guys. Rep
Texas baby!
Brooks
UNT
Doc
The number 14 seed makes semies
Texas loses to Harding only to make it to the backdoor
game.
Texas State finally goes to nationals (probably b/c there
are no more athletes in the South to get in their way;
except for Arkansas)
Arkansas, the most athletic team in the south, loses to the
weakest UT team I've ever seen. How a team with Hopwood,
Jones, Casey Boy and Matt "I'm easily going to sky you"
Jackson could not make the backdoor game just blows my mind.
I guess in the end it comes down to a team with a
functioning program and offense over a team with sick
athletes who can't be stopped. Congratz to Calvin for
getting his team there
Then KU, who rolled into finals has no answer to TxSt and
almost loses to UT! I guess Kansas would of done better this
game if they had "more breaks, more breaks." If Kansas had
lost to UT I would of ranted forever. To be honest, I would
of liked it if both of these teams had lost and Arkansas was
sent to Nationals instead. At least they won't embarrass
themselves there like KU seems to do every year they go.
Hats off to State on their bid to Natties. Shout out to
Walsh, Deuce, and Ed. Also, a good job is in order to the
coaching at Texas State. Now prove me wrong and don't get
rolled at Natties.
BTW, how much is a plane ticket to fly into Madison?
love,
doc
Abe
What was the score of the Kansas - UNT game in semi's?
I forgot.
- Abe
Abe
What was that score of the Kansas - UNT game in semi's?
I forgot.
- Abe
Doc
of points that Kansas did in the Finals game against State.
Why do you ask? Were you playing? I didn't notice...
KK26
traveling out to Colorado in '08 with two cars of KU guys and cheering
for you guys throughout your nationals appearance, especially hard in
your pre-quarters game against Harvard.
-KK
D Rich
I remember the crazy Kansas players that made the trip out there.
Gotta love that South Regionals support! Hopefully the South Region
can bring back a title one day.
I know this has been a long road for TX State and it is great to see
them go on. Congrats to both teams!
D Rich
(washed up UNT guy)
Doc
Its just reverse psychology. I'd like to see Kansas (and
TxSt) place really high at nationals and bring those
strength bids back to the south. Just thought maybe KU
needed to be reminded the goal isn't to go to nationals
every year; it's to go and do well.
Abe
playing. Secondly, haven't we made it to nationals 5 out of
the 7 years that you've even been a program (if thats what
you would even call a program - I personally would call it a
one hit wonder giving ALL the credit to K-Rich and Jake)?
Lastly, why do you continue to talk smack on these college
ultimate threads? Didn't you graduate?
brother
only exist in club. Now we have sophisticated formulas.
For the record, Arkansas fully intended to embarrass
themselves and the region had they qualified. Stupid pesky
Texas team with all their nonathletic guys that run fast and
jump high.
Doc
referred to anyone as "non-athletic". Of course Texas has
kids who are fast and can jump....that's what Ultimate is
all about. It's just that, from what I saw, Arkansas has
kids who run faster and jump higher.
Abe, you're fun to argue with; and I'm sorry I didn't get to
watch your sports event. Like all good parents, I'll make it
up to you with McDonald's and then sit you in front of the
TV while I go drink a Whiskey-Sprite.
I'm also sorry that UNT has only been to Nationals once in
the past 6 years. Had we of been twice (like your school has
in the past 6-7 years) we'd surely be taken more seriously
and treated with respect.
K-rich and Jake getting all the credit is like Paul Pierce
and Kevin Garnett getting all the credit when I'm pretty
sure it was Rajon Rondo that was putting them in position to
score. Surely you know what it's like to be a driving force
behind your team and yet get so little credit. No?
Why talk smack? Because its fun when I get a response out of
people like yourself. And yes I did graduate, thanks for the
congratulations, although it did come a bit late. Just FYI,
I like to comment on college threads because I coach a
college team; and because I was in college a year ago. Neat
how that works.
For the record, I love you Kansas and I love you Texas. Both
of your programs have been models for the rest of the
region.
Abe I hope you tear-face at nationals
love,
doc
Jonathan Daugherty
generally agreed the average level of play keeps improving every
year. Its hard to speak to athleticism, but this is a game of skill.
From what I saw even the bottom teams had guys who knew what they were
doing. That wasn't the case five years ago. Wanted to give a shout
out to all the college kids who worked hard and brought it this
weekend. Lotta fun to watch.
sauce
Congrats J-Do, now let me know when you want to take over the JV team
at South Garland?
-Fred
Jerrod
>
> I'm also sorry that UNT has only been to Nationals once in
> the past 6 years. Had we of been twice (like your school has
> in the past 6-7 years) we'd surely be taken more seriously
> and treated with respect.
Doc-
KU has been to Nationals 5 of the last 7 years, not twice. We have
always underachieved upon getting there (no argument there), but it
wasn't for lack of effort or focus. Usually the teams just didn't
play their best ultimate at the right time. Shit happens, but this
general "hate" or disrespect for the program is pretty ridiculous.
Heard that the level of play in Texas was very high. Good to hear
that the region continues to improve and that there are new and
exciting programs on the rise. Congrats to Texas State and Kansas on
their Nationals bids.
Jerrod
Super Old KU Guy
jondorty17
regionals. I hate south. They are not taking credit for
anything state achieved. Seriously they can suck it.
jondorty17
but who cares? Since 2002 only 3 teams have won the region.
Texas, Kansas, State. Suck it motherfuckers,
Doc
So far on this thread I've said
"I hope Kansas places high at nationals"
"I love you Kansas"
and
"Abe I hope you tear-face at nationals"
Jerrod learn to read you dumb shit. It's people like you
that make wars seem justifiable.
question guy
'down year'?
Doc
do, however, someone cries
Torre
> Yes, I've been saying it's been a down year. Every time
> I do, however, someone cries
bunch'a pansies
--
Torre
BJ
simplistic.
It may feel like that the first year after guys like
Franchise, K Rich and KK aren't around. And no, no one from
the south has won or been a finalist in a major tournament,
but even when those guys were around, how many times was
that the case (besides TUFF vs Wisconsin losses over and
over at Mardis Gras)?
I agree with my co-coach Jdo, the bottom has raised up in
this region so far, even from just last year, that it's
impossible to call it a down year.
No one in the region will compete for the Callahan, and no
one outside our team thinks State will go far at natty's,
but don't call it a down year. You are getting dangerously
close to the stereotypical, "back in my day there was real
talent around here" old guy talk, and that'd just be sad.
fitting, but sad.
I played for the 16th and 15th seeded Texas B team at
regionals '03 and '04. I know what sucking is, and this
region sir, does not suck.
Doc
This went from being a nice rant session to you making well
thought out remarks that nobody can disagree with.
5600 views is pretty nice though, and at least I was able to
turn this thread into a sweater before you went and killed
it.
question guy
The logic of "South Region has never been good nationally,
and this year is no different in that regard, therefore the
quality of teams in the South Region is no different" is not
a good logical argument. I remember back in my day..Nah, I'm
not going to pull that old codger's trick. Anyone besides
Doctor going to chime in here?
BJ
child.
I do agree that the top 2-3 teams from the south generally
don't compete well nationally, this year seeming to continue
that trend. However (pay attention now) i think our 8-16
teams would fare well compared to other region's 8-16 and
especially compared to our 8-16 historically. I feel
confident that this year's 8-16, a far better indicator of
overall region strength than the top team's national
competitiveness, were the strongest they have been in the
past 8 years.
I have been to every south regionals in the past 8 years,
and 7 out of the 8 nationals. I think I am as qualified as
anyone to make these statements.
I hope you see now that I was really doing the opposite of
hyping my team, so that makes you...kinda of a jackass.