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Jim Cramer Why Radio is dead.

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Scooter

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Mar 20, 2008, 9:33:50 PM3/20/08
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Terrestrial radio’s biggest problem is retaining advertising revenues as
more ad dollars are siphoned by the internet. In 2007 total ad dollars for
radio fell to where they were in 2003. That point to an industry going
backwards, not forward, Cramer said.
The average market cap of terrestrial radio companies has declined by a
staggering 80% over the last five years. But the bottom isn’t even in yet,
as far as Cramer can tell
Either way, the bottom line remains the same. Cramer expects the terrestrial
radio companies to go down harder than almost anything else and he would not
own any of them under any condition right now.

Here's the video - <http://www.cnbc.com/id/23558686/from/ET/>

RHF

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Mar 20, 2008, 10:11:18 PM3/20/08
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Scooter,

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Telamon

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Mar 20, 2008, 11:02:47 PM3/20/08
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In article
<cb033a62-0055-4252...@e10g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
RHF <rhf-new...@pacbell.net> wrote:

> Scooter,
>
> Did you know by mentioning "Jim Cramer" and Cramer
> three times you generated these Google Sponsored Links :

< SNIP >

So you are more than a Troll and actually a curse on the news group.

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Telamon
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David Eduardo

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Mar 20, 2008, 11:05:07 PM3/20/08
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"Scooter" <sm...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Of course, Cramer is barely right half the time. His advice is more
entertaining screaming and diatribe than useful.


Rfburns

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Mar 21, 2008, 12:14:59 AM3/21/08
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Once again - Eduardo, you're an expert on everything. Amazing!

jw

David Eduardo

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Mar 21, 2008, 2:23:00 AM3/21/08
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"Rfburns" <jimwi...@labs.net> wrote in message
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There are plenty of sites that track Cramer's "advice" to show that it is
mediocre at best.


RHF

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Mar 21, 2008, 5:12:28 AM3/21/08
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On Mar 20, 8:02 pm, Telamon
<telamon_spamshi...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote:
> In article
> <cb033a62-0055-4252-897f-0c62fe9ef...@e10g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
>
>  RHF <rhf-newsgro...@pacbell.net> wrote:
- - Scooter,
- -
- - Did you know by mentioning "Jim Cramer" and Cramer
- - three times you generated these Google Sponsored Links :
-
- < SNIP >

* * * * * Un-Snip * * * * *
Subject: Jim Cramer Why Radio is dead.
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/b30a41c6440cd13a
Newsgroups : alt.radio.broadcasting, rec.radio.shortwave,
alt.commercial-hit-radio, alt.radio, alt.radio.broadcasting.open

-
- So you are more than a Troll and actually a curse on the news group.
-
- --
- Telamon -chief-resident-in-charge-of- Alt.Idiots etc...
- Ventura, California
-

Hello Telamon - Here You Go Again Poluting Another
Rec.Radio Shortwave Newsgroup Thread with Your
Personal Attacks on Me "RHF" :

Teli - Please Learn To Be A Positive Contributor Here and Not
Just Another "Trill" In-Search-Of a "Troll" To Get Some Attention.

Telamon - It is Better to Light a Candle
- Then to Curse the Darkness ~ RHF

To Paraphase :
Telamon - It is Better to Post something Positive Yourself
- Then to Curse another Poster ~ RHF
.
TELAMON - It would be 'nice' if you put a "PING : RHF" at
the start of the Subject-Line of your Replies {Attacks} on Me.
Give the other Readers of these Newsgroups a Break.
A "PING : RHF" at the start of the Subject-Line of your
Replies to Me {Attacks on Me} would let then know that
it was a Message :
1 - That had Gone Off-Topic.
2 - Was Directed to Me "RHF"
3 - Was Not Worth Their Time

Telamon - Honestly - Where Was Your Added Value
To This Thread and Topic ?

PONG : Telamon - Point-of-Fact your Antics have Raised
the Noise Level of this Newsgroup by Three Times (3X)
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/66318042e449461d

=PS= Telamon since you set-up the "Follow-Up" Reply to GoTo :
"Followup-To: alt.idiots, alt.local.village.idiot, alt.stupid.idiots"
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/246e94adbbb5392d
.
-ps- Telamon this is a PONG : TELAMON {Back-At-Cha}
.
--pps-- One more thing Telamon - I removed :
alt.radio.broadcasting, alt.commercial-hit-radio,
alt.radio, alt.radio.broadcasting.open from the
cross-posting and only left rec.radio.shortwave
in this reply. WHY Polute other Newsgroups with
this Game of Newsgroup Ping-Ping.
.

Rfburns

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Mar 21, 2008, 8:58:43 AM3/21/08
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On Mar 21, 1:23 am, "David Eduardo" <da...@davideduardo.com> wrote:
> "Rfburns" <jimwilh...@labs.net> wrote in message

amazing!

jw

dave

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Mar 21, 2008, 9:06:58 AM3/21/08
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Radio stations should be owned by eccentric millionaires, not public
companies.

MNMikew

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Mar 21, 2008, 10:22:34 AM3/21/08
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"Scooter" <sm...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Cramer is the biggest dumbass in the financial world!


Bob Miller

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Mar 21, 2008, 10:37:08 AM3/21/08
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He picks good stocks. I've made money on them. What no one can predict
is a screwed up stock market thanks to the credit crisis.

As for radio, stations where having ad revenue problems even before
satellite broadcasting. Most terrestrial stations will probably
survive, if enough people can stand the syndicated rightie looloos.

bob
k5qwg

SW4ever

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Mar 21, 2008, 1:20:50 PM3/21/08
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AHA.....NOW is the time to load up on their stock !!!

mumbl...@gmail.com

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Mar 21, 2008, 5:33:03 PM3/21/08
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Hey NAMBLA dude, where have you been hiding?

David Eduardo

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Mar 21, 2008, 5:42:53 PM3/21/08
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<mumbl...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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A rather simple inspection of the message headers will show that the "dude"
in question is an imposter.

But, what the hell, you seem to believe it so I do have a reasonable idea of
your perceptive abilities and IQ.


dxAce

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Mar 21, 2008, 5:48:18 PM3/21/08
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Your "IQ" is just something else you made up, right, Gleason?


dxAce

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Mar 21, 2008, 6:12:43 PM3/21/08
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David Eduardo wrote:

You are an imposter yourself, are you not, 'Eduardo'? After all, you've been
posing as an Hispanic since around the year 2000, have you not?

You really need to apologize to the Hispanic community.

dxAce

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Mar 21, 2008, 6:28:32 PM3/21/08
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Aren't you associated with SAMBLA? (South American Man Boy Love Association)


mumbl...@gmail.com

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Mar 21, 2008, 9:39:46 PM3/21/08
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On Mar 21, 5:42 pm, "David Eduardo" <da...@davideduardo.com> wrote:
> <mumbler....@gmail.com> wrote in message

Or that you intentionally posted via a different ip address so that
you could later, if necessary, avail yourself of this very excuse. An
old hat technique.

>
> But, what the hell, you seem to believe it so I do have a reasonable idea of

> your perceptive abilities and IQ.- Hide quoted text -
>

Still probably greater than your six year old lover's. How's little
Billy doing today, anyway?

David Eduardo

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Mar 21, 2008, 10:01:39 PM3/21/08
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"dxAce" <dx...@milestones.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> Your "IQ" is just something else you made up, right, Gleason?
>
>

Started your weekend drinking binge, I see.


Telamon

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Mar 21, 2008, 10:03:29 PM3/21/08
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In article
<af68c7ce-b872-4fa9...@i12g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
RHF <rhf-new...@pacbell.net> wrote:

> On Mar 20, 8:02 pm, Telamon
> <telamon_spamshi...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote:
> > In article
> > <cb033a62-0055-4252-897f-0c62fe9ef...@e10g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
> >
> >  RHF <rhf-newsgro...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> - - Scooter,
> - -
> - - Did you know by mentioning "Jim Cramer" and Cramer
> - - three times you generated these Google Sponsored Links :
> -
> - < SNIP >

< RESNIP RHF crap >

So I noticed you did not answer the question are you a curse on the news
group or just a spamming trolling idiot? Which is it?

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Telamon
Ventura, California

Telamon

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Mar 21, 2008, 10:06:14 PM3/21/08
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In article
<2ac07338-f924-4d6e...@m44g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>,
Rfburns <jimwi...@labs.net> wrote:

He has the psychic ability to tell you what you can hear on your radio.

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Telamon
Ventura, California

Telamon

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Mar 21, 2008, 10:07:12 PM3/21/08
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In article <64hunuF...@mid.individual.net>,
"MNMikew" <MNMi...@aol.com> wrote:

And you are the biggest dumb ass posting to this news group.

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Telamon
Ventura, California

D Peter Maus

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Mar 21, 2008, 10:19:35 PM3/21/08
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Which raises the question....why would you waste your time?

You dismiss him as irrelevant. You dismiss him as alcoholic.

And yet...you're the one who engages him.


Hmmmmm...

Kinda raises another question. Doesn't it.


Given your stated disdain for DXers, it is quite the curiosity that
you spend so much time arguing with them.

Like Steve...you dismiss them as irrelevant. You blame them for the
deterioration of their relationship with broadcasters...and yet you
regularly engage them.

Hmmmmmm...

A person in your position would seem to have better uses for his
time. Unless, like another poster here, who faded away about the time of
your appearance, your bickering here is fodder for some discussions
outside of the group.

Which then raises more significant questions.

David Eduardo

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Mar 21, 2008, 10:43:02 PM3/21/08
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"D Peter Maus" <DPete...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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>
> Which raises the question....why would you waste your time?
>
> You dismiss him as irrelevant. You dismiss him as alcoholic.
>
> And yet...you're the one who engages him.

If you had been on a high school or college debate team, you would
understand.


>
> Given your stated disdain for DXers, it is quite the curiosity that you
> spend so much time arguing with them.

I have a disdain for DXers who have a disdain for broadcasters. Big
difference.


>
> Like Steve...you dismiss them as irrelevant. You blame them for the
> deterioration of their relationship with broadcasters...and yet you
> regularly engage them.

... because it is fun.

> A person in your position would seem to have better uses for his time.

I find this a rather entertaining diversion from that very same position.

> Unless, like another poster here, who faded away about the time of your
> appearance, your bickering here is fodder for some discussions outside of
> the group.

How nice to be able to foment conversation.


>
> Which then raises more significant questions.

Nothing on a news group is truly significant. It's backyard gossip over a
(fire) wall.


Telamon

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Mar 21, 2008, 11:10:38 PM3/21/08
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In article <Wm_Ej.35200$J41....@newssvr14.news.prodigy.net>,
"David Eduardo" <da...@davideduardo.com> wrote:

>
> "D Peter Maus" <DPete...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
> news:X0_Ej.30691$D_3....@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> >
> > Which raises the question....why would you waste your time?
> >
> > You dismiss him as irrelevant. You dismiss him as alcoholic.
> >
> > And yet...you're the one who engages him.
>
> If you had been on a high school or college debate team, you would
> understand.

< SNIP >

Most people shun debaters. You would think you would have learned that
by now.

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Telamon
Ventura, California

David Eduardo

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Mar 21, 2008, 11:17:26 PM3/21/08
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"Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in message
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This is documented where? In your rigid inflexible mind?


D Peter Maus

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Mar 21, 2008, 11:20:11 PM3/21/08
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David Eduardo wrote:
> "D Peter Maus" <DPete...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
> news:X0_Ej.30691$D_3....@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>> Which raises the question....why would you waste your time?
>>
>> You dismiss him as irrelevant. You dismiss him as alcoholic.
>>
>> And yet...you're the one who engages him.
>
> If you had been on a high school or college debate team, you would
> understand.


So, this just sport for you. You're not arguing to purpose, you're
simply arguing. Got it.

I was in the Writer's Club, actually.


>> Given your stated disdain for DXers, it is quite the curiosity that you
>> spend so much time arguing with them.
>
> I have a disdain for DXers who have a disdain for broadcasters. Big
> difference.


What you conveniently ignore, is that fans don't turn on the
object of their fanaticism....they have to be run off.

Broadcasters were long disdainful of DXers before DXers were
turned off.

So, you have disdain for Dxers who have disdain for you because
you had disdain for them.

Yes, it's a big difference of no difference. The very persons for
whom you have disdain are the ones you spend so much time aguing with.

Yes, I see the distinction.


>> Like Steve...you dismiss them as irrelevant. You blame them for the
>> deterioration of their relationship with broadcasters...and yet you
>> regularly engage them.
>
> ... because it is fun.
>
>> A person in your position would seem to have better uses for his time.
>
> I find this a rather entertaining diversion from that very same position.
>
>> Unless, like another poster here, who faded away about the time of your
>> appearance, your bickering here is fodder for some discussions outside of
>> the group.
>
> How nice to be able to foment conversation.

As usual, you miss my point.


>> Which then raises more significant questions.
>
> Nothing on a news group is truly significant. It's backyard gossip over a
> (fire) wall.
>


Uh huh...which, again, raises questions.

>

David Eduardo

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Mar 21, 2008, 11:27:21 PM3/21/08
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"D Peter Maus" <DPete...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:LV_Ej.30818$D_3....@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...

> David Eduardo wrote:
>> "D Peter Maus" <DPete...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
>> news:X0_Ej.30691$D_3....@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>>> Which raises the question....why would you waste your time?
>>>
>>> You dismiss him as irrelevant. You dismiss him as alcoholic.
>>>
>>> And yet...you're the one who engages him.
>>
>> If you had been on a high school or college debate team, you would
>> understand.
>
>
> So, this just sport for you. You're not arguing to purpose, you're
> simply arguing. Got it.

No, you do not get it. Debate, going back to the Greeks, was as much about
the enjoyment of the discussion as the content being discussed. There are
two parts... holding a point of view and enjoying the challenge of defending
it.


>
>> I have a disdain for DXers who have a disdain for broadcasters. Big
>> difference.
>
>
> What you conveniently ignore, is that fans don't turn on the object
> of their fanaticism....they have to be run off.

This "hatred" has to origins...

One is based in the decline of AM whereby most "DX hours" programming is
networked and there is little variety to hear among domestics.

The second is based on AM looking for a saviour, and placing some faith in
HD Radio to improve its declining fortunes.

The first makes late-night DX boring. The second makes it impossible. Both
are reasonable business decisions by AM stations, but DXers see them as
attacks.


>
> Broadcasters were long disdainful of DXers before DXers were turned
> off.

I would not say that. Interest in DX reports waned as the importance of
non-local coverage waned, while at the same time most non-Metro stations
used outside contract engineers who were not paid to answer reception
reports. Today, nearly nobody at a station will know what DX even is.


>
>>
>>> Unless, like another poster here, who faded away about the time of your
>>> appearance, your bickering here is fodder for some discussions outside
>>> of the group.
>>
>> How nice to be able to foment conversation.
>
> As usual, you miss my point.

You have no point.


D Peter Maus

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Mar 21, 2008, 11:41:53 PM3/21/08
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David Eduardo wrote:
> "D Peter Maus" <DPete...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
> news:LV_Ej.30818$D_3....@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>> David Eduardo wrote:
>>> "D Peter Maus" <DPete...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
>>> news:X0_Ej.30691$D_3....@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>>>> Which raises the question....why would you waste your time?
>>>>
>>>> You dismiss him as irrelevant. You dismiss him as alcoholic.
>>>>
>>>> And yet...you're the one who engages him.
>>> If you had been on a high school or college debate team, you would
>>> understand.
>>
>> So, this just sport for you. You're not arguing to purpose, you're
>> simply arguing. Got it.
>
> No, you do not get it. Debate, going back to the Greeks, was as much about
> the enjoyment of the discussion as the content being discussed. There are
> two parts... holding a point of view and enjoying the challenge of defending
> it.

Yes, I do get it. It's sport. You don't actually discuss. You don't
actually discuss, because you don't actually listen. You don't actually
respond to someone else's comment.

You declare. You don't discuss.


>>> I have a disdain for DXers who have a disdain for broadcasters. Big
>>> difference.
>>
>> What you conveniently ignore, is that fans don't turn on the object
>> of their fanaticism....they have to be run off.
>
> This "hatred" has to origins...
>
> One is based in the decline of AM whereby most "DX hours" programming is
> networked and there is little variety to hear among domestics.
>
> The second is based on AM looking for a saviour, and placing some faith in
> HD Radio to improve its declining fortunes.
>
> The first makes late-night DX boring. The second makes it impossible. Both
> are reasonable business decisions by AM stations, but DXers see them as
> attacks.
>> Broadcasters were long disdainful of DXers before DXers were turned
>> off.
>
> I would not say that.


And you would be in direct contradiction with yourself. You've stated
repeatedly how the disinterest in DX reports predates even the days of
CKLW.

Broadcasters had disdain for DXers long before DXers had disdain for
Broadcasters.

>>>> Unless, like another poster here, who faded away about the time of your
>>>> appearance, your bickering here is fodder for some discussions outside
>>>> of the group.
>>> How nice to be able to foment conversation.
>> As usual, you miss my point.
>
> You have no point.


Wow. That's some debate style.

You must have been a student of Bryant.

Or Algore.


Have a good evening, David.


>
>

dxAce

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Mar 22, 2008, 1:52:00 AM3/22/08
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David Eduardo wrote:

While your stops at the tequila cooler never end!


dxAce

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Mar 22, 2008, 2:17:40 AM3/22/08
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David Frackelton Gleason, Univisions retard boy who poses as 'Eduardo', the faux
Hispanic, wrote:

> "D Peter Maus" <DPete...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
> news:X0_Ej.30691$D_3....@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> >
> > Which raises the question....why would you waste your time?
> >
> > You dismiss him as irrelevant. You dismiss him as alcoholic.
> >
> > And yet...you're the one who engages him.
>
> If you had been on a high school or college debate team, you would
> understand.

LMFAO. Gleason, you never graduated from high school, nor college!


D Peter Maus

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Mar 22, 2008, 2:18:16 AM3/22/08
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He's got quite the debating style, doesn't he, Steve?


Plato would be so proud.


dxAce

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Mar 22, 2008, 2:22:49 AM3/22/08
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D Peter Maus wrote:

Yes, but he's no Bryant!


dxAce

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Mar 22, 2008, 2:52:48 AM3/22/08
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David Frackelton Gleason, Univisions poster boy for ADD, who poses as


'Eduardo', the faux Hispanic, wrote:

> "D Peter Maus" <DPete...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
> news:LV_Ej.30818$D_3....@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> > David Eduardo wrote:
> >> "D Peter Maus" <DPete...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
> >> news:X0_Ej.30691$D_3....@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> >>> Which raises the question....why would you waste your time?
> >>>
> >>> You dismiss him as irrelevant. You dismiss him as alcoholic.
> >>>
> >>> And yet...you're the one who engages him.
> >>
> >> If you had been on a high school or college debate team, you would
> >> understand.
> >
> >
> > So, this just sport for you. You're not arguing to purpose, you're
> > simply arguing. Got it.
>
> No, you do not get it. Debate, going back to the Greeks, was as much about
> the enjoyment of the discussion as the content being discussed. There are
> two parts... holding a point of view and enjoying the challenge of defending
> it.
> >
> >> I have a disdain for DXers who have a disdain for broadcasters. Big
> >> difference.
> >
> >
> > What you conveniently ignore, is that fans don't turn on the object
> > of their fanaticism....they have to be run off.
>
> This "hatred" has to origins...

That would be 'two' would it not, oh debating one?

>
>
> One is based in the decline of AM whereby most "DX hours" programming is
> networked and there is little variety to hear among domestics.
>
> The second is based on AM looking for a saviour, and placing some faith in
> HD Radio to improve its declining fortunes.
>
> The first makes late-night DX boring. The second makes it impossible. Both
> are reasonable business decisions by AM stations, but DXers see them as
> attacks.
> >
> > Broadcasters were long disdainful of DXers before DXers were turned
> > off.
>
> I would not say that. Interest in DX reports waned as the importance of
> non-local coverage waned, while at the same time most non-Metro stations
> used outside contract engineers who were not paid to answer reception
> reports. Today, nearly nobody at a station will know what DX even is.

Hell, even you don't know what DX is. Never did, never will. 'Eduardo', you
couldn't DX your way out of a wet paper sack!

m II

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Mar 22, 2008, 3:17:40 AM3/22/08
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dxAcehole, AKA Steve Lare, pathological liar, racist and common drunk,
SUPCOMUCOMM (Supreme Commander,
United Counties of Michigan Militia)
Michigan
USA

during his fifth annual Farewell Forever tour, said:


> Aren't you associated with SAMBLA? (South American Man Boy Love
Association)


Why don't you check your contact list? It's still on your night table,
if I recall.

How's the bra Cuhulin sent you? Does it keep your little nipples warm at
night?


================================
From: - Sat Feb 16 00:52:22 2008

I really don't want to say this, my many shortwave friends, but
I find that I am giving up far to much of my increasingly valuable
time here on RRS trying to educate the faux, the debutantes, and
those who tote..

Therefore, I've simply decided to give up RRS.

Goodbye, I sincerely hope that you all find your niche in the
world of SW.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

========================================

dxAce

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Mar 22, 2008, 3:22:56 AM3/22/08
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I'm a NAMBLA member II wrote:

> dxAcehole, AKA Steve Lare, pathological liar, racist and common drunk,
> SUPCOMUCOMM (Supreme Commander,
> United Counties of Michigan Militia)
> Michigan
> USA
>
> during his fifth annual Farewell Forever tour, said:
>
> > Aren't you associated with SAMBLA? (South American Man Boy Love
> Association)
>
> Why don't you check your contact list?

Contact list? No, 'Eduardo' didn't send one. I'm certain that he/she/it sent you
one though!

> It's still on your night table,
> if I recall.

Your recollection is faulty, but that's normal seeing as how you're a dumbass
Canuck.


m II

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Telamon wrote:

> Most people shun debaters. You would think you would have learned that
> by now.

So true.

dxAcehole is a MASTER Debater.


mike

dxAce

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Mar 22, 2008, 3:42:10 AM3/22/08
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And you're just another dumbass Canuck.


dxAce

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David Frackelton Gleason, Univisions addled 'tard boy who poses as 'Eduardo',
the faux Hispanic, wrote:

Making things up as usual, I see.


mumbl...@gmail.com

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On 21 Mrz., 22:43, "NAMBLA Dude" <da...@davideduardo.com> wrote:
> "D Peter Maus" <DPeterM...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in messagenews:X0_Ej.30691$D_3....@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...

>
>
>
> > Which raises the question....why would you waste your time?
>
> > You dismiss him as irrelevant. You dismiss him as alcoholic.
>
> > And yet...you're the one who engages him.
>
> If you had been on a high school or college debate team, you would
> understand.

You confuse genuine debate with sophistry.

> > Given your stated disdain for DXers, it is quite the curiosity that you
> > spend so much time arguing with them.
>
> I have a disdain for DXers who have a disdain for broadcasters. Big
> difference.

Actually, there's precious little difference there nowadays.

> > Like Steve...you dismiss them as irrelevant. You blame them for the
> > deterioration of their relationship with broadcasters...and yet you
> > regularly engage them.
>
> ... because it is fun.


You really need to 'raise the bar' for yourself, in that case.

>
> > A person in your position would seem to have better uses for his time.
>
> I find this a rather entertaining diversion from that very same position.

See my comment above re 'raising the bar'.

>
> > Unless, like another poster here, who faded away about the time of your
> > appearance, your bickering here is fodder for some discussions outside of
> > the group.
>
> How nice to be able to foment conversation.

What's interesting is that you didn't bring your NAMBLA inquiry to
this group, but instead took it to a broacasting group. I guess you
knew that you wouldn't get a warm welcome here.

> > Which then raises more significant questions.
>
> Nothing on a news group is truly significant. It's backyard gossip over a
> (fire) wall.

You don't think it's significant until you get yourself into trouble.
But of course then you can pull a fake ID out of your back pocket and
make a hasty retreat. And you call this "debate".

mumbl...@gmail.com

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On 21 Mrz., 23:27, "David Eduardo" <da...@davideduardo.com> wrote:
> "D Peter Maus" <DPeterM...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in messagenews:LV_Ej.30818$D_3....@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>
> > David Eduardo wrote:
> >> "D Peter Maus" <DPeterM...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message

> >>news:X0_Ej.30691$D_3....@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> >>> Which raises the question....why would you waste your time?
>
> >>> You dismiss him as irrelevant. You dismiss him as alcoholic.
>
> >>> And yet...you're the one who engages him.
>
> >> If you had been on a high school or college debate team, you would
> >> understand.
>
> > So, this just sport for you. You're not arguing to purpose, you're
> > simply arguing. Got it.
>
> No, you do not get it. Debate, going back to the Greeks, was as much about
> the enjoyment of the discussion as the content being discussed. There are
> two parts... holding a point of view and enjoying the challenge of defending
> it.

Again, you need to learn the difference between genuine debate and
sophistry. The latter is what you enjoy, and while it does involve
"defending" a position in some sense, it is not the same thing as
straight debate. Google some of the relevant terms and you should be
able to sort it out.

>
>
>
> >> I have a disdain for DXers who have a disdain for broadcasters. Big
> >> difference.
>
> > What you conveniently ignore, is that fans don't turn on the object
> > of their fanaticism....they have to be run off.
>
> This "hatred" has to origins...
>
> One is based in the decline of AM whereby most "DX hours" programming is
> networked and there is little variety to hear among domestics.
>
> The second is based on AM looking for a saviour, and placing some faith in
> HD Radio to improve its declining fortunes.

Very little faith at this stage.

>
> The first makes late-night DX boring. The second makes it impossible. Both
> are reasonable business decisions by AM stations, but DXers see them as
> attacks.

They're not reasonable business decisions to anyone who lacks an ax to
grind.

> > Broadcasters were long disdainful of DXers before DXers were turned
> > off.
>
> I would not say that. Interest in DX reports waned as the importance of
> non-local coverage waned, while at the same time most non-Metro stations
> used outside contract engineers who were not paid to answer reception
> reports. Today, nearly nobody at a station will know what DX even is.

That's not our fault. All they have to do is google it.

> >>> Unless, like another poster here, who faded away about the time of your
> >>> appearance, your bickering here is fodder for some discussions outside
> >>> of the group.
>
> >> How nice to be able to foment conversation.
>
> > As usual, you miss my point.
>
> You have no point.

Just because he isn't affiliated with NAMBLA doesn't mean he lacks a
point.

Drifter

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Mar 22, 2008, 12:54:31 PM3/22/08
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>(cross posting snip)

Thanks Steve, coffee on the screen here again.

Drifter...

--
"Regulatory capitalism is when companies invest in lawyers, lobbyists,
and politicians, instead of plant, people, and customer service."
- former FCC Chairman William Kennard (A real FCC Chairman,
unlike the current Corporate Spokesperson in the job!)

dxAce

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Drifter wrote:

> dxAce wrote:
> >
> > David Frackelton Gleason, posing as 'Eduardo', the faux Hispanic, wrote:
> >
>
> >>> Hey NAMBLA dude, where have you been hiding?
> >> A rather simple inspection of the message headers will show that the "dude"
> >> in question is an imposter.
> >
> > Aren't you associated with SAMBLA? (South American Man Boy Love Association)
> >
> >(cross posting snip)
>
> Thanks Steve, coffee on the screen here again.

I spit a wee bit of Guinness earlier!

dxAce
Michigan
USA

Shanti Om

Drifter

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OMG! I'd rather waste the coffee than the Guinness...

and thanks Steve, i tend to get a bit misty sometimes.

dxAce

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Drifter wrote:

> dxAce wrote:
> >
> > Drifter wrote:
> >
> >> dxAce wrote:
> >>> David Frackelton Gleason, posing as 'Eduardo', the faux Hispanic, wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>> Hey NAMBLA dude, where have you been hiding?
> >>>> A rather simple inspection of the message headers will show that the "dude"
> >>>> in question is an imposter.
> >>> Aren't you associated with SAMBLA? (South American Man Boy Love Association)
> >>>
> >>> (cross posting snip)
> >> Thanks Steve, coffee on the screen here again.
> >
> > I spit a wee bit of Guinness earlier!
> >
> > dxAce
> > Michigan
> > USA
> >
> > Shanti Om
> >
> OMG! I'd rather waste the coffee than the Guinness...
>
> and thanks Steve, i tend to get a bit misty sometimes.

I as well. I put my flag up a bit ago in memory of your friends. I hope others might
remember them as well as they go about their day.

David Eduardo

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"dxAce" <dx...@milestones.com> wrote in message
news:47E4A484...@milestones.com...

Yeah, I know you are envious that I had a business of my own at age 17 that
was a lot more exciting and productive than falling asleep from boredom in
high school... and later I had the luxury of studying what I wanted, not a
required curriculum, in college.


David Eduardo

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"dxAce" <dx...@milestones.com> wrote in message
news:47E4ACC0...@milestones.com...

>
>>
>> I would not say that. Interest in DX reports waned as the importance of
>> non-local coverage waned, while at the same time most non-Metro stations
>> used outside contract engineers who were not paid to answer reception
>> reports. Today, nearly nobody at a station will know what DX even is.
>
> Hell, even you don't know what DX is. Never did, never will. 'Eduardo',
> you
> couldn't DX your way out of a wet paper sack!

Of course, that has no truth to it al all. I was a good enough DXer to be
one of the founding members of the IRCA and a member of it's board in its
first year, as well as a member of the NRC from about 1958 to just a couple
of years ago.
>


dxAce

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Mar 22, 2008, 2:28:00 PM3/22/08
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Bullshit!


dxAce

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Mar 22, 2008, 2:28:54 PM3/22/08
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David Eduardo wrote:

They kick your faux ass out?


dxAce

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Mar 22, 2008, 2:32:30 PM3/22/08
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Drifter wrote:

> dxAce wrote:
> >
> > Drifter wrote:
> >
> >> dxAce wrote:
> >>> David Frackelton Gleason, posing as 'Eduardo', the faux Hispanic, wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>> Hey NAMBLA dude, where have you been hiding?
> >>>> A rather simple inspection of the message headers will show that the "dude"
> >>>> in question is an imposter.
> >>> Aren't you associated with SAMBLA? (South American Man Boy Love Association)
> >>>
> >>> (cross posting snip)
> >> Thanks Steve, coffee on the screen here again.
> >
> > I spit a wee bit of Guinness earlier!
> >

> OMG! I'd rather waste the coffee than the Guinness...

Very tasty!

David Eduardo

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"dxAce" <dx...@milestones.com> wrote in message
news:47E54FE6...@milestones.com...

No, I did not renew... a few ornery DXers who are against radio as a
business made it annoying, particularly when one has to pay to be a member.


dxAce

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Mar 22, 2008, 2:38:34 PM3/22/08
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David Eduardo wrote:

> "dxAce" <dx...@milestones.com> wrote in message
> news:47E4A484...@milestones.com...
> >
> >
> > David Frackelton Gleason, Univisions retard boy who poses as 'Eduardo',
> > the faux
> > Hispanic, wrote:
> >
> >> "D Peter Maus" <DPete...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
> >> news:X0_Ej.30691$D_3....@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> >> >
> >> > Which raises the question....why would you waste your time?
> >> >
> >> > You dismiss him as irrelevant. You dismiss him as alcoholic.
> >> >
> >> > And yet...you're the one who engages him.
> >>
> >> If you had been on a high school or college debate team, you would
> >> understand.
> >
> > LMFAO. Gleason, you never graduated from high school, nor college!
>
> Yeah, I know you are envious that I had a business of my own at age 17 that
> was a lot more exciting and productive than falling asleep from boredom in
> high school...

I'm not envious of anything you fabricate, 'Eduardo'.


dxAce

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David Eduardo wrote:

Broke, oh faux one? So very sad. You should have graduated high school.

dxAce

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dxAce wrote:

Your mommy, whom, according to you, graduated from Wellesley College, would have
been proud.

Instead, you are a lying, pathological idiot.

Telamon

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In article <aT_Ej.24937$R84....@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net>,
"David Eduardo" <da...@davideduardo.com> wrote:

> "Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in message
> news:telamon_spamshield-A...@newsclstr03.news.prodigy.net...
> > In article <Wm_Ej.35200$J41....@newssvr14.news.prodigy.net>,


> > "David Eduardo" <da...@davideduardo.com> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> "D Peter Maus" <DPete...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
> >> news:X0_Ej.30691$D_3....@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> >> >
> >> > Which raises the question....why would you waste your time?
> >> >
> >> > You dismiss him as irrelevant. You dismiss him as alcoholic.
> >> >
> >> > And yet...you're the one who engages him.
> >>
> >> If you had been on a high school or college debate team, you would
> >> understand.
> >

> > < SNIP >


> >
> > Most people shun debaters. You would think you would have learned that
> > by now.
>

> This is documented where? In your rigid inflexible mind?

No, that would be most people. Debating is just the parsing of words to
win an argument, which each side puts out their best words to that
effect regardless of the truth of the matter. It exists just to make a
mindless win for lawyers and politicians whether they are right or
wrong. Most people don't care because it is useless information. The
truth of the matter will help and the BS will just lead you astray.

That's why most people hate you. You are just a BS spewer.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Telamon

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Mar 22, 2008, 3:41:53 PM3/22/08
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In article <t0%Ej.24942$R84....@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net>,
"David Eduardo" <da...@davideduardo.com> wrote:

>
> "D Peter Maus" <DPete...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message

> news:LV_Ej.30818$D_3....@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...


> > David Eduardo wrote:
> >> "D Peter Maus" <DPete...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
> >> news:X0_Ej.30691$D_3....@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> >>> Which raises the question....why would you waste your time?
> >>>
> >>> You dismiss him as irrelevant. You dismiss him as alcoholic.
> >>>
> >>> And yet...you're the one who engages him.
> >>
> >> If you had been on a high school or college debate team, you would
> >> understand.
> >
> >

> > So, this just sport for you. You're not arguing to purpose, you're
> > simply arguing. Got it.
>
> No, you do not get it. Debate, going back to the Greeks, was as much about
> the enjoyment of the discussion as the content being discussed.

< SNIP >

To bad for anyone reading your posts that it is all just BS.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Telamon

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Mar 22, 2008, 3:43:18 PM3/22/08
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In article <5e%Ej.30866$D_3....@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,

D Peter Maus <DPete...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:

> David Eduardo wrote:
> > "D Peter Maus" <DPete...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
> > news:LV_Ej.30818$D_3....@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> >> David Eduardo wrote:
> >>> "D Peter Maus" <DPete...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
> >>> news:X0_Ej.30691$D_3....@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> >>>> Which raises the question....why would you waste your time?
> >>>>
> >>>> You dismiss him as irrelevant. You dismiss him as alcoholic.
> >>>>
> >>>> And yet...you're the one who engages him.
> >>> If you had been on a high school or college debate team, you would
> >>> understand.
> >>
> >> So, this just sport for you. You're not arguing to purpose, you're
> >> simply arguing. Got it.
> >
> > No, you do not get it. Debate, going back to the Greeks, was as much about

> > the enjoyment of the discussion as the content being discussed. There are
> > two parts... holding a point of view and enjoying the challenge of
> > defending
> > it.
>
>
>

> Yes, I do get it. It's sport. You don't actually discuss. You don't
> actually discuss, because you don't actually listen. You don't actually
> respond to someone else's comment.
>
> You declare. You don't discuss.

< SNIP >

He just posts crap for the hell of it. He thinks it is fun to trash the
news group.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Telamon

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In article <TkcFj.23421$Ej5....@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net>,
"David Eduardo" <da...@davideduardo.com> wrote:

They told you not to Renew.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Telamon

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Mar 22, 2008, 3:46:22 PM3/22/08
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In article <47E54FB0...@milestones.com>,
dxAce <dx...@milestones.com> wrote:

Precisely.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

David Eduardo

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"dxAce" <dxAce@milestones/SRCmusic.com> wrote in message
news:13uakm7...@corp.supernews.com...

>
>
> Broke, oh faux one? So very sad. You should have graduated high school.
>

Graduating from high school would not have helped me at all and has never
been a factor in business. It's all about successful work experience.


David Eduardo

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"Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in message
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>
> He just posts crap for the hell of it. He thinks it is fun to trash the
> news group.
>

I find it entertaining to see how groundless are the assumptions of a group
that hates commercial radio,


David Eduardo

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"Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in message
news:telamon_spamshield-7...@newsclstr02.news.prodigy.com...

>>
>> No, I did not renew... a few ornery DXers who are against radio as a
>> business made it annoying, particularly when one has to pay to be a
>> member.
>
> They told you not to Renew.
>

No, I got multiple e-mails from club officers and long term members asking
me to continue.


dxAce

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Mar 22, 2008, 4:17:37 PM3/22/08
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David Eduardo wrote:

And lying your f00kin ass off!


David Eduardo

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"Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in message
news:telamon_spamshield-8...@newsclstr02.news.prodigy.com...

>> > Yeah, I know you are envious that I had a business of my own at age 17
>> > that
>> > was a lot more exciting and productive than falling asleep from boredom
>> > in
>> > high school... and later I had the luxury of studying what I wanted,
>> > not a
>> > required curriculum, in college.
>>
>> Bullshit!
>
> Precisely.

What makes this group so amusing is the quantity of folks, like you, who can
be sucked in by a miserable, racist drunk like Steve Lare to the point they
actually believe verifiable facts to be untrue.


David Eduardo

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Mar 22, 2008, 4:21:01 PM3/22/08
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"dxAce" <dx...@milestones.com> wrote in message
news:47E56960...@milestones.com...

In the broadcast industry, where programming and content creation is more of
an art than a learned science, the education level of a job applicant is
seldom reviewed. Only in positions like accounting would some academic
credentials or certifications be required. What is looked at is career
achievements. What is not looked at is whether someone graduated from high
school.


dxAce

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Mar 22, 2008, 4:23:18 PM3/22/08
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David Eduardo wrote:

Well, you certainly tried to suck folks in with your un-verifiable BS!


David Eduardo

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"dxAce" <dx...@milestones.com> wrote in message
news:47E56AB5...@milestones.com...

It's all verifiable.

What strikes me as bizarre about you... er, that should be "exceedingly
bizarre" since nearly everything about you is somewhat bizarre... is your
repeated focus on high school diplomas. One is obviously not needed if a
person is intelligent and a bit of an autodidact. Since most classroom time
is wasted while the slowest learners are attended to, most high school
classes are boring and frustrating to those of some ability. Yet you seem to
wish all teens to be doomed to this experience, which dulls the mind and
stifles creativity... why is that?


mumbl...@gmail.com

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On 22 Mrz., 14:22, "David Eduardo" <da...@davideduardo.com> wrote:
> "dxAce" <dx...@milestones.com> wrote in message
>
> news:47E4A484...@milestones.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > David Frackelton Gleason, Univisions retard boy who poses as 'Eduardo',
> > the faux
> > Hispanic, wrote:
>
> >> "D Peter Maus" <DPeterM...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message

> >>news:X0_Ej.30691$D_3....@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>
> >> > Which raises the question....why would you waste your time?
>
> >> > You dismiss him as irrelevant. You dismiss him as alcoholic.
>
> >> > And yet...you're the one who engages him.
>
> >> If you had been on a high school or college debate team, you would
> >> understand.
>
> > LMFAO. Gleason, you never graduated from high school, nor college!
>
> Yeah, I know you are envious that I had a business of my own at age 17

Then what happened between you at 17 and you at present that resulted
in your trolling the internet for little kids to molest?

> that
> was a lot more exciting and productive than falling asleep from boredom in
> high school... and later I had the luxury of studying what I wanted, not a
> required curriculum, in college.

Not a required curriculum...right. This is what lots of people say who
failed to graduate, so I'm willing to bet that you didn't graduate.
Did you?

mumbl...@gmail.com

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Mar 22, 2008, 4:46:03 PM3/22/08
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You don't mean radio as a business. You mean radio as a scam.

dxAce

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Mar 22, 2008, 4:46:20 PM3/22/08
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David Eduardo wrote:

Because you're a verifiable pathological liar?


mumbl...@gmail.com

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Mar 22, 2008, 4:47:43 PM3/22/08
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This is what a lot of people say who failed to graduate from college.

Wait a minute...you said high school? Are you serious? You failed to
graduate from high school? That's not funny.

mumbl...@gmail.com

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Mar 22, 2008, 4:48:27 PM3/22/08
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On 22 Mrz., 16:15, "David Eduardo" <da...@davideduardo.com> wrote:
> "Telamon" <telamon_spamshi...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in message

Not many people like being ripped off. Do you?

mumbl...@gmail.com

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On 22 Mrz., 16:16, "David Eduardo" <da...@davideduardo.com> wrote:
> "Telamon" <telamon_spamshi...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in message

I'll bet they didn't know you flunked out of high school!

mumbl...@gmail.com

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On 22 Mrz., 16:18, "David Eduardo" <da...@davideduardo.com> wrote:
> "Telamon" <telamon_spamshi...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in message

You're just jealous that Steve can accomplish what you people pay high-
priced marketing firms to do.

mumbl...@gmail.com

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Mar 22, 2008, 4:53:55 PM3/22/08
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Maybe this is part of the problem with radio as an industry. It's
people aren't reasonably well-educated. It's probably time for it to
raise its standards and as it recruits sharper, more educated people
perhaps some of its problems can be solved.

mumbl...@gmail.com

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On 22 Mrz., 16:40, "David Eduardo" <da...@davideduardo.com> wrote:
> "dxAce" <dx...@milestones.com> wrote in message
>
> news:47E56AB5...@milestones.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > David Eduardo wrote:
>
> >> "Telamon" <telamon_spamshi...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in message

> >>news:telamon_spamshield-8...@newsclstr02.news.prodigy.com...
> >> >> > Yeah, I know you are envious that I had a business of my own at age
> >> >> > 17
> >> >> > that
> >> >> > was a lot more exciting and productive than falling asleep from
> >> >> > boredom
> >> >> > in
> >> >> > high school... and later I had the luxury of studying what I wanted,
> >> >> > not a
> >> >> > required curriculum, in college.
>
> >> >> Bullshit!
>
> >> > Precisely.
>
> >> What makes this group so amusing is the quantity of folks, like you, who
> >> can
> >> be sucked in by a miserable, racist drunk like Steve Lare to the point
> >> they
> >> actually believe verifiable facts to be untrue.
>
> > Well, you certainly tried to suck folks in with your un-verifiable BS!
>
> It's all verifiable.
>
> What strikes me as bizarre about you... er, that should be "exceedingly
> bizarre" since nearly everything about you is somewhat bizarre... is your
> repeated focus on high school diplomas. One is obviously not needed if a
> person is intelligent and a bit of an autodidact.

This is what lots of people say who flunk. However, if they're
actually intelligent, they should have no trouble excelling in their
studies.

Since most classroom time
> is wasted while the slowest learners are attended to, most high school
> classes are boring and frustrating to those of some ability. Yet you seem to
> wish all teens to be doomed to this experience, which dulls the mind and
> stifles creativity... why is that?

The most talented students don't allow themselves to be frustrated and
bored, and usually have no trouble pursuing studies at whatever rate
is best for them.

Telamon

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Mar 22, 2008, 5:10:10 PM3/22/08
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In article <GNdFj.8001$Rq1....@nlpi068.nbdc.sbc.com>,
"David Eduardo" <da...@davideduardo.com> wrote:

What I find entertaining is how you just make stuff up out of thin air.

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David Eduardo

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Mar 22, 2008, 5:12:28 PM3/22/08
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<mumbl...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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little kids to molest?
>
>> that
>> was a lot more exciting and productive than falling asleep from boredom
>> in
>> high school... and later I had the luxury of studying what I wanted, not
>> a
>> required curriculum, in college.
>
> Not a required curriculum...right. This is what lots of people say who
> failed to graduate, so I'm willing to bet that you didn't graduate.
> Did you?

Nope, the headhunter firm of Joe Sullivan, Inc. came calling and offered me
a VP position at a publicly traded company to run their broadcast division.
Since I had gone to college because I was consulting and had lots of free
time, this was no loss as I didn't have need for a degree... what I wanted
was to give some structure to my knowledge of business and finance (radio
management) and the social sciences such as psychology, sociology, cultural
anthropology (radio programming, in other words) and math and statistics
(research and ratings)... which I achieved. It also allowed me to learn
business terminology in English, which I had little familiarity with.


Telamon

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Mar 22, 2008, 5:12:56 PM3/22/08
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In article
<095b0392-140b-4aae...@q78g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>,
mumbl...@gmail.com wrote:

I'll bet it didn't take long for them to know he is full of it.

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Telamon

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Mar 22, 2008, 5:12:02 PM3/22/08
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In article <yOdFj.8002$Rq1....@nlpi068.nbdc.sbc.com>,
"David Eduardo" <da...@davideduardo.com> wrote:

To continue not renewing? How interesting can false information be after
a while?

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Telamon
Ventura, California

David Eduardo

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Mar 22, 2008, 5:13:24 PM3/22/08
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<mumbl...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> You don't mean radio as a business. You mean radio as a scam.

Were the radio business a scam, advertisers would not be coming back for
over 85 years.


David Eduardo

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Mar 22, 2008, 5:14:27 PM3/22/08
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"dxAce" <dx...@milestones.com> wrote in message
news:47E5701C...@milestones.com...

>
>>
>> What strikes me as bizarre about you... er, that should be "exceedingly
>> bizarre" since nearly everything about you is somewhat bizarre... is your
>> repeated focus on high school diplomas. One is obviously not needed if a
>> person is intelligent and a bit of an autodidact. Since most classroom
>> time
>> is wasted while the slowest learners are attended to, most high school
>> classes are boring and frustrating to those of some ability. Yet you seem
>> to
>> wish all teens to be doomed to this experience, which dulls the mind and
>> stifles creativity... why is that?
>
> Because you're a verifiable pathological liar?
>

You did not answer the question: what is so important about a high school
diploma?


Telamon

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Mar 22, 2008, 5:15:37 PM3/22/08
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In article <BQdFj.8003$Rq1....@nlpi068.nbdc.sbc.com>,
"David Eduardo" <da...@davideduardo.com> wrote:

Hey, this isn't about Steve. This is about you. You are your own
favorite subject. This is why you are here, which is to talk about the
only important subject in the whole world, you.

So how you doing today Eduardo?

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Telamon
Ventura, California

dxAce

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Mar 22, 2008, 5:17:43 PM3/22/08
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David Eduardo wrote:

Crap.. you grew up with English, you frickin', lying little retard!

BS us some more, Gleason!

Shanti Om


David Eduardo

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Mar 22, 2008, 5:17:57 PM3/22/08
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<mumbl...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Yeah, I was bored out of my gourd, and built a radio station instead.


Telamon

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Mar 22, 2008, 5:17:13 PM3/22/08
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In article <47E56AB5...@milestones.com>,
dxAce <dx...@milestones.com> wrote:

Oh, now I would say a good portion of what he has posted here has been
verified false made up BS.

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Telamon
Ventura, California

Telamon

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Mar 22, 2008, 5:17:43 PM3/22/08
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In article <47E5701C...@milestones.com>,
dxAce <dx...@milestones.com> wrote:

I can verify that.

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Telamon
Ventura, California

David Eduardo

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Mar 22, 2008, 5:19:59 PM3/22/08
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<mumbl...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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I don't pay any marketing firm to do anything.


David Eduardo

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Mar 22, 2008, 5:19:24 PM3/22/08
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<mumbl...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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As stated before, I quit because I started a business instead. School was so
boring that it was easier to read the text books the first week of school,
and then skip classes and only take the tests.


dxAce

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Mar 22, 2008, 5:20:20 PM3/22/08
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David Eduardo wrote:

You built nothing.


Telamon

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Mar 22, 2008, 5:21:37 PM3/22/08
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In article <5MdFj.8000$Rq1...@nlpi068.nbdc.sbc.com>,
"David Eduardo" <da...@davideduardo.com> wrote:

> "dxAce" <dxAce@milestones/SRCmusic.com> wrote in message
> news:13uakm7...@corp.supernews.com...
> >
> >
> > Broke, oh faux one? So very sad. You should have graduated high school.
> >
>
> Graduating from high school would not have helped me at all and has never
> been a factor in business. It's all about successful work experience.

Nobody cares if you got a HS diploma or not. People care about what you
post to the news group, which is mostly crap with just a smidgen of
truth in a bid to make it believable.

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Telamon
Ventura, California

David Eduardo

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Mar 22, 2008, 5:22:39 PM3/22/08
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<mumbl...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>> In the broadcast industry, where programming and content creation is more
>> of
>> an art than a learned science, the education level of a job applicant is
>> seldom reviewed. Only in positions like accounting would some academic
>> credentials or certifications be required. What is looked at is career
>> achievements. What is not looked at is whether someone graduated from
>> high
>> school.
>
> Maybe this is part of the problem with radio as an industry. It's
> people aren't reasonably well-educated. It's probably time for it to
> raise its standards and as it recruits sharper, more educated people
> perhaps some of its problems can be solved.

Many of the best people in radio are not big on forma education, but you
find them to be excellent autodidacts. The people I find fault with in the
industry are those who have learned, generally in school, a rigid mindset
and are encumbered by rules on what works and does not work.

Since radio broadcasting is not a field where there is much to be learned in
college, intelligence and work experience is often better than specific
training.


Telamon

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Mar 22, 2008, 5:23:07 PM3/22/08
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In article <PSdFj.8004$Rq1....@nlpi068.nbdc.sbc.com>,
"David Eduardo" <da...@davideduardo.com> wrote:

>
> "dxAce" <dx...@milestones.com> wrote in message

> news:47E56960...@milestones.com...


> >
> >
> > David Eduardo wrote:
> >
> >> "dxAce" <dxAce@milestones/SRCmusic.com> wrote in message
> >> news:13uakm7...@corp.supernews.com...
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Broke, oh faux one? So very sad. You should have graduated high school.
> >> >
> >>
> >> Graduating from high school would not have helped me at all and has never
> >> been a factor in business. It's all about successful work experience.
> >

> > And lying your f00kin ass off!
> >
>

> In the broadcast industry, where programming and content creation is more of
> an art than a learned science,

You certainly qualify as a BS artist.

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Telamon
Ventura, California

Telamon

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Mar 22, 2008, 5:24:12 PM3/22/08
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In article
<aa796250-b3f3-4645...@m44g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>,
mumbl...@gmail.com wrote:

That's what happens when you get caught cheating on a test. You get
thrown out.

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Telamon
Ventura, California

David Eduardo

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Mar 22, 2008, 5:24:26 PM3/22/08
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<mumbl...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:dd2f1f06-aee4-476e...@p73g2000hsd.googlegroups.com...

>>
>> What strikes me as bizarre about you... er, that should be "exceedingly
>> bizarre" since nearly everything about you is somewhat bizarre... is your
>> repeated focus on high school diplomas. One is obviously not needed if a
>> person is intelligent and a bit of an autodidact.
>
> This is what lots of people say who flunk. However, if they're
> actually intelligent, they should have no trouble excelling in their
> studies.

I excelled in high school and college (Dean's list), but was bored by most
of the classes, which moved with incredible slowness.


>
> Since most classroom time
>> is wasted while the slowest learners are attended to, most high school
>> classes are boring and frustrating to those of some ability. Yet you seem
>> to
>> wish all teens to be doomed to this experience, which dulls the mind and
>> stifles creativity... why is that?
>
> The most talented students don't allow themselves to be frustrated and
> bored, and usually have no trouble pursuing studies at whatever rate
> is best for them.

Sitting in a class waiting for the dolts to "get it" is very frustrating. In
the end, it was not worth it.


David Eduardo

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Mar 22, 2008, 5:28:33 PM3/22/08
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"Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in message
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To continue as a member...


David Eduardo

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Mar 22, 2008, 5:29:13 PM3/22/08
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"Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in message
news:telamon_spamshield->
> Oh, now I would say a good portion of what he has posted here has been
> verified false made up BS.

Nothing has been verified as same.


dxAce

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Mar 22, 2008, 5:31:46 PM3/22/08
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David Eduardo wrote:

Better to "fake it", right?


David Eduardo

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Mar 22, 2008, 5:34:10 PM3/22/08
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"dxAce" <dx...@milestones.com> wrote in message
news:47E57777...@milestones.com...
>
>
> David Eduardo wrote:
>

>> Nope, the headhunter firm of Joe Sullivan, Inc. came calling and offered
>> me
>> a VP position at a publicly traded company to run their broadcast
>> division.
>> Since I had gone to college because I was consulting and had lots of free
>> time, this was no loss as I didn't have need for a degree... what I
>> wanted
>> was to give some structure to my knowledge of business and finance (radio
>> management) and the social sciences such as psychology, sociology,
>> cultural
>> anthropology (radio programming, in other words) and math and statistics
>> (research and ratings)... which I achieved. It also allowed me to learn
>> business terminology in English, which I had little familiarity with.
>
> Crap.. you grew up with English, you frickin', lying little retard!

I grew up in a multilingual home. My mother, who spent years in Europe,
spoke several languages, and my grandmother, daughter of the US ambassador
to Germany, spoke German to us so we would be exposed.

By age 13 or 14, I was listening mostly to Latin American radio and music,
and over the years had many years of French and 6 years of Latin. I was, in
fact, in a multicultural environment. At about age 6, I enjoyed flying a
Brazilian flag in front of the house because I had a vision of travelling
the Amazon.


>
> BS us some more, Gleason!

Not all people are monocultural xenophobes.


Telamon

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Mar 22, 2008, 5:37:57 PM3/22/08
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In article <7SeFj.8023$Rq1....@nlpi068.nbdc.sbc.com>,
"David Eduardo" <da...@davideduardo.com> wrote:

> "Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in message
> news:telamon_spamshield-E...@newsclstr02.news.prodigy.com...
> > In article <yOdFj.8002$Rq1....@nlpi068.nbdc.sbc.com>,
> > "David Eduardo" <da...@davideduardo.com> wrote:
> >
> >> "Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in message
> >> news:telamon_spamshield-7...@newsclstr02.news.prodigy.com.
> >> ..
> >> >>
> >> >> No, I did not renew... a few ornery DXers who are against radio as a
> >> >> business made it annoying, particularly when one has to pay to be a
> >> >> member.
> >> >
> >> > They told you not to Renew.
> >> >
> >>
> >> No, I got multiple e-mails from club officers and long term members
> >> asking
> >> me to continue.
> >
> > To continue not renewing? How interesting can false information be after
> > a while?
>
> To continue as a member...

As long as you promised not to actually show up.

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Telamon
Ventura, California

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