Eduardo - Revenue Falls 20 Percent In November
PocketRadio
NEW YORK -- December 22, 2008: November showed the worst revenue
numbers in a long, down year, the RAB reports: Radio revenue was off
by 20 percent compared to November 2007.
Local fell 21 percent last month, with national off 24 percent, with
local and national combining for a 22 percent decline. Off-air
revenue, which has risen most months this year, crept up again in
November, rising 1 percent.
The November dropoff follows reports that grand-total revenue was down
10 percent in October and 8 percent in September.
The RAB bases its local and national figures on about 100 markets as
reported by Miller Kaplan Arase & Co.
http://www.radioink.com/HeadlineEntry.asp?hid=144417&pt=todaysnews
Eduardo - can you spin this in a positive way for HD Radio?
garya...@aol.com
garya...@aol.com
So what? TV station revenue is down. Auto companies revenue is
down. The whole economy is down. With businesses going under every
day, you should expect this to happen with radio advertising. No
surprise here. When the economy recovers, so will the advertising
income. That's not to say that radio advertising income will ever be
what it was a few years ago, but it will recover somewhat with the
economy recovery. So the stats for November are really worthless as
an argument against radio or HD radio.
rfb...@yahoo.com
The point is - radio is so strapped that a 20% drop puts pressure on
an already stressed industry. Radio is just trying to keep its head
above water. In that sense 20% IS significant. Isn't that right
Eduardo.
David Eduardo
<garya...@aol.com> wrote in message
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It has nothing to do with HD radio.
However, as I said, any expense item that can be cut right now will be, just
as it is at General Electric or Johnson & Johnson... and that means HD,
streaming, websites, overnight jocks, vans, promotion, travel and anything
else "shrinkable."
dxAce
David Eduardo wrote:
Your job...
RHF
- The point is - radio is so strapped that a 20% drop
- puts pressure on an already stressed industry.
- Radio is just trying to keep its head above water.
- In that sense 20% IS significant.
- Isn't that right Eduardo.
little 'rhb',
So you relish the fact that 20% of Americans may be
Out of Work in the Next Year due to a Recession;
and a possible Depression; as long as it is bad news
for Free Over-the-Air Radio; IBOC and HD-Radio
it boggles the mind ~ RHF
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RHF
So you relish the fact that 20% of Americans may be
Out of Work in the Next Year due to a Recession;
and a possible Depression; as long as it is bad news
for Free Over-the-Air Radio; IBOC and HD-Radio
it boggles the mind ~ RHF
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On Dec 23, 6:33 pm, PocketRadio <sidwellfrie...@aol.com> wrote:
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LMFAO!
PocketRadio
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Yea, it does - stations won't be able to afford the new transmitters/
antennas, if the 10db power increase is approved for FM-HD.
PocketRadio
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Yup, as long as it is bad news for HD Radio - destroy terrestrial
radio, in order to destroy HD.
David Eduardo
"PocketRadio" <sidwell...@aol.com> wrote in message
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<Yea, it does - stations won't be able to afford the new transmitters/
<antennas, if the 10db power increase is approved for FM-HD.
A large percentage of stations believe the technical sacrifices on this
increase do not justify the potential gains today. The interference to
in-market second adjacents may be too severe to tolerate, and the gains not
quantifiable today.
garya...@aol.com
I haven't heard of the radio industry asking congress for a bail out.
I think it's a shame how some people enjoy seeing others suffer. I
guess some of you think as long as it is someone else's job that is in
danger and not your own, it's just fine with you. That's about as
selfish as one can get. And hoping that the radio industry will fold
shows the disgusting person you really are.
GET A LIFE!
PocketRadio
> "PocketRadio" <sidwellfrie...@aol.com> wrote in message
"FCC to Consider Raising FM-HD Power Levels"
"Why would radio stations take the risk of degrading the quality of
their existing analog service in order to pimp a flawed technology
which nobody's listening to? It's almost as if the strategy of the HD
Radio Alliance is to degrade analog radio service in order to force
digital adoption - kind of a variant on the 'we had to destroy the
village to save it' rationale."
I'de say appove it, then watch FM turn into the same situation as AM-
HD - but this time, there will be lawsuits:
"Comments of Simmons Media Group, LLC"
"Large-market and large-group stations with more resources will be the
most likely to increase digital operating power, leaving small-market,
rural, and family-owned analog broadcasters to lose revenues from
interference while undertaking large attorney and engineering fees to
fight digital interference at the FCC."
Hasn't Struble done a wonderful job pitting broadcasters against one
another. IBOC will eventually destroy the radio industry. Struble must
a a real hate of the industry.
PocketRadio
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LMFAO!
rfb...@yahoo.com
Hey GET A LIFE - You need to GET REAL. HD radio and other big
business have suffered from GREED for years. It's now catching up
with them. I personally love it.
rfb...@yahoo.com
Big Business, banks, investors, big media, bloated government
agencies, newspapers, auto manufacturers, retailers and probably YOU
(and shitheads like Eduardo) have been living in financial never-never
land for years and it’s all coming to a head. Now. And they still
justify their self-serving actions while the Titanic sinks to the
bottom. Look at yourself and tell me it's not true.
I can’t wait to see it continue in 2009 I just love it!
Merry Christmas!
Brenda Ann
"David Eduardo" <da...@davideduardo.com> wrote in message
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So now you admit that IBOC is a QRM generator??
David Eduardo
"Brenda Ann" <bre...@shinbiro.com> wrote in message
news:xLOdnZT8XO6NJM_U...@giganews.com...
No, not at current levels. But a 10 db increase would cause some issues.
RHF
> "David Eduardo" <da...@davideduardo.com> wrote in message
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> > in-market second adjacents may be too severe to tolerate, and the gains
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- So now you admit that IBOC is a QRM generator??
Yeah - IBOC is "By-Design" a Noise Generator
for Analog Radio Users.
IBOC Planned
http://electronicdesign.com/Files/29/12194/Figure_02.gif
http://www.jampro.com/uploads/images/hd_docs/ALLHD/ALLHD1.jpg
IBOC Actual
http://www.ham-radio.com/k6sti/iboc0.jpg
http://www.contelec.com/images%5CSpectral-plot.jpg
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- And hoping that the radio industry will fold
- shows the disgusting person you really are.
Right-On !
- GET A LIFE!
PocketRadio
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> >> in-market second adjacents may be too severe to tolerate, and the gains
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"HD Interference: Not Just For AM Anymore"
"Radio World Engineering Extra dropped a bomb this month with a very
provocative cover story: 'What Are We Doing to Ourselves, Exactly?'
Written by Doug Vernier, the man who authored the technical
specifications for an ongoing Corporation for Public Broadcasting-
sponsored HD Radio interference analysis, the report is the first of
its kind to document interference between FM-HD stations around the
country. Using anecdotal reportage, some sophisticated contour-
mapping, and presumably 'early data' from the CPB study, Vernier's
article conclusively proves how stations running in hybrid HD/analog
mode can (and do) interfere somewhat significantly with not only
themselves, but their neighbors on the FM dial."
http://diymedia.net/archive/1207.htm#122307
"Editorial: More Than Half Full"
"AM-HD continues to fight uphill. Several manufacturers showed
impressive new transmitter models designed to optimize and maintain HD
performance. Yet the growth of AM-HD stations coming on the air
appears stalled and we hear murmurings about some broadcasters pulling
back on AM-HD or wishing to renegotiate their commitments with
Ibiquity."
http://www.rwonline.com/pages/s.0044/t.13363.html
"Citadel Halts AM Nighttime IBOC Operation Amid Complaints"
"An excerpt from his memo to staff reads: In response to the
lackluster performance, the limited benefit and various reports of
significant interference, Citadel is suspending nighttime AM HD
operations at this time. Please reinstate your previous procedures for
daytime-only HD operation as soon as possible.”
http://www.radioworld.com/pages/s.0121/t.8847.html
Cum again ? LOL!
PocketRadio
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Edaurdo - you are so full of shit that you make me vomit!
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Right-On ! You sure showed me! LOL!
RHF
- LMFAO!
pOCKETrADIO - We {The USA} are legally in a Recession
-and- May soon be going in to a Depression in the next year
-and- You are slamming the Commercial Radio Advertising
Business for bad economic numbers . . .
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Real People *Your Fellow US Citizens* Are Losing Their
Jobs, Homes, Business; and You Rejoice ! ! !
it boggles the mind ~ RHF
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Telamon
"David Eduardo" <da...@davideduardo.com> wrote:
It causes me listening issues right now and I'm not alone on this.
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Telamon
Ventura, California
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- business have suffered from GREED for years. It's now catching up
- with them. I personally love it.
"rfb" - We {The USA} are legally in a Recession
-and- May soon be going in to a Depression in the next year
-and- You are slamming the Commercial Radio Advertising
Business for bad economic numbers . . .
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/5d1af1a72b004e2a
Real People *Your Fellow US Citizens* Are Losing Their
Jobs, Homes, Business; and You Relish It and Rejoice !
RHF
- agencies, newspapers, auto manufacturers, retailers and probably YOU
- (and shitheads like Eduardo) have been living in financial never-
never
- land for years and it’s all coming to a head. Now. And they still
- justify their self-serving actions while the Titanic sinks to the
- bottom. Look at yourself and tell me it's not true.
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- I can’t wait to see it continue in 2009 I just love it!
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- Merry Christmas!
PocketRadio
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> Real People *Your Fellow US Citizens* Are Losing Their
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PocketRadio wrote:
Damn, he made 'em vomit in Ecuador too!
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> >> <Yea, it does - stations won't be able to afford the new transmitters/
> >> <antennas, if the 10db power increase is approved for FM-HD.
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> >> A large percentage of stations believe the technical sacrifices on this
> >> increase do not justify the potential gains today. The interference to
> >> in-market second adjacents may be too severe to tolerate, and the gains
> >> not quantifiable today.
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> > So now you admit that IBOC is a QRM generator??
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> No, not at current levels. But a 10 db increase would cause some issues.
Holy shit. Eduardo I can't believe you're admitting that. There is
hope for you after all. You're coming back from the dark side.
RHF
> On Dec 24, 5:54 pm, "David Eduardo" <da...@davideduardo.com> wrote:
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> > >> <antennas, if the 10db power increase is approved for FM-HD.
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> > >> increase do not justify the potential gains today. The interference to
> > >> in-market second adjacents may be too severe to tolerate, and the gains
> > >> not quantifiable today.
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> > No, not at current levels. But a 10 db increase would cause some issues.
- Holy shit. Eduardo I can't believe you're admitting that. There
is
- hope for you after all. You're coming back from the dark side.
'rfb' to use your own words "Holy Shit" - 'rfb' you are
another PocketRadio & BoobleStubble Sock-Puppet
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(OT) : 'rfb' One More Anti-Terrestrial-Radio "Sock-Puppet"
blah, Blah. BLAH ! - IBiquity
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blah, Blah. BLAH ! - HD-Radio
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