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dave

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Feb 3, 2009, 8:07:58 AM2/3/09
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If you don't put the wires underground you gotta trim the trees.

This is why we pay taxes.

RHF

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Feb 3, 2009, 9:56:45 AM2/3/09
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On Feb 3, 5:07 am, dave <d...@dave.dave> wrote:

- If you don't put the wires underground
- you gotta trim the trees.
-
- This is why we pay taxes.

? "WE" ?

Dave -so- You Are Blaming the Victims Again

Now If . . . They Had Only Built New Orleans
100 Feet Above Ground . . .

it boggles the mind ~ RHF
.
-ps- Dave once again you are not 'special'.
.
-pps- Dang Dave why didin't you blame 'Bush'
and FEMA for the Kentucky Ice Storm Disaster ?
- - - Oops that right Bush ain't the US President
anymore : It's 'the other guy' now and he can do
no wrong.

dave boggle along now ~ RHF
.

Mike

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Feb 3, 2009, 12:42:30 PM2/3/09
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On Feb 3, 8:07 am, dave <d...@dave.dave> wrote:
> If you don't put the wires underground you gotta trim the trees.
>
> This is why we pay taxes.


Duh...can you possibly be as stupid as you seem? It costs a little
over a million dollars to pay for each mile of electrical wires put
underground. Hardly cost-efficient in rural farm areas where most of
the people without electricity live.

To top it off the poles were knocked over by the hurricane that came
through last September. Last week was the worst ice storm in
Kentucky's history. Two disasters in the last 5 and a half months have
left us without the resources to put the electrical lines underground.

RHF, by the way, which infrastructure improvements in the US (not
Iraq) were paid for by the Bush administration?

Mike
Louisville, KY

dxAce

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Feb 3, 2009, 3:12:55 PM2/3/09
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Michael W. "I'm a college professor with a PhD" Bryant wrote:

> On Feb 3, 8:07 am, dave <d...@dave.dave> wrote:
> > If you don't put the wires underground you gotta trim the trees.
> >
> > This is why we pay taxes.
>
> Duh...can you possibly be as stupid as you seem? It costs a little
> over a million dollars to pay for each mile of electrical wires put
> underground. Hardly cost-efficient in rural farm areas where most of
> the people without electricity live.
>
> To top it off the poles were knocked over by the hurricane that came
> through last September. Last week was the worst ice storm in
> Kentucky's history. Two disasters in the last 5 and a half months have
> left us without the resources to put the electrical lines underground.

With a smart guy like you, who lied about having a PhD, Kentucky should have
lots of resources (or at least lied about having the resources) to place those
lines underground.

Instead, your talents are wasted hanging around Louisville Technical Institute.

cuh...@webtv.net

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Feb 3, 2009, 3:53:00 PM2/3/09
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Maybe it is ''frozen'' in my mind.
January 30,1966, the temperature in Corinth,Mississippi got down to
nineteen degrees below zero.

January 1940, the Pearl River in Carthage froze over from bank to bank.I
don't remember that because I was born in Carthage on Nov 5,1941.At
least two times before, right here in Jackson I have seen the
temperature get down to zero http://msleake.com/pearl_river.html

Found any Pearls Lately?
cuhulin

RHF

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Feb 3, 2009, 5:12:55 PM2/3/09
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On Feb 3, 9:42 am, Mike <mwbry...@aol.com> wrote:
> On Feb 3, 8:07 am, dave <d...@dave.dave> wrote:
>
> > If you don't put the wires underground you gotta trim the trees.
>
> > This is why we pay taxes.
>
> Duh...can you possibly be as stupid as you seem? It costs a little
> over a million dollars to pay for each mile of electrical wires put
> underground. Hardly cost-efficient in rural farm areas where most of
> the people without electricity live.
>
> To top it off the poles were knocked over by the hurricane that came
> through last September. Last week was the worst ice storm in
> Kentucky's history. Two disasters in the last 5 and a half months have
> left us without the resources to put the electrical lines underground.

May God Protect Them the BHO-Administration©
Sure Ain't Any H-E-L-P !

- RHF, by the way, which infrastructure improvements in the
- US (not Iraq) were paid for by the Bush administration?
-
- Mike
- Louisville, KY

The Wall Street Bail-Out ? - Oops My Bad . . .
That Was The Democrat Controlled US Congress.

(OT) : In-the-Name-of-Obama-Speakers© :
Dang MWB there you go again Blaming 'Bush'
for the Kentucky Ice Storm Disaster of 2009 ?

(OT) : The Kentucky Ice Storm Disaster
-MIA- President Obama ? and FEMA !
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/e308cf05c26c97a5

OT) : ACORN Supports Obama's Porkulus Bill
-was- ACORN Supports Obama's Stimulus Bill, and Vice-Versa
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/6543277cca7f8613
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/870f5a9ffac38269

-mwb- Oops that's right Bush ain't the US President
anymore : It's 'the other guy' now and naturally he
can do 'no wrong'.

mwb - boggle along now and hide your blaming
blame game under another bush ~ RHF
.
Note To MWB There Is One Thing That BHO Needs
To Do To Protect the US Presidency; the USA;
and American Citizens =READ=
(OT) : Protecting the US Presidency : Bring the
Obama Extended Family to America : In the Interest
of National Security and Eliminate Them From Being
Used As Anti-American Political Propaganda Tools
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/c373ec7ded9521f0
.
.

Mike

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Feb 3, 2009, 7:56:45 PM2/3/09
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> -MIA- President Obama ? and FEMA !http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/e308cf05c26c97a5

>
> OT) : ACORN Supports Obama's Porkulus Bill
> -was- ACORN Supports Obama's Stimulus Bill, and Vice-Versahttp://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/6543277cca7f8613http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/870f5a9ffac38269

>
> -mwb- Oops that's right Bush ain't the US President
> anymore : It's 'the other guy' now and naturally he
> can do 'no wrong'.
>
> mwb - boggle along now and hide your blaming
> blame game under another bush ~ RHF
> �.
> Note To MWB There Is One Thing That BHO Needs
> To Do To Protect the US Presidency; the USA;
> and American Citizens =READ=
> (OT) : Protecting the US Presidency : Bring the
> Obama Extended Family to America : In the Interest
> of National Security and Eliminate Them From Being
> Used As Anti-American Political Propaganda Toolshttp://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/c373ec7ded9521f0
> �.
> �.


RHF, you need to de-frag your brain.

cuh...@webtv.net

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Feb 3, 2009, 8:56:00 PM2/3/09
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Tisk Tisk Tisk,,, B HO the Ineligble Illegal Imposter Usurper born in
Kenya doesn't like for people to refer to him as B HO.
B HO!
cuhulin

Brenda Ann

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Feb 4, 2009, 1:27:00 AM2/4/09
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"dxAce" <dx...@milestones.com> wrote in message
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My question is:

No matter how many millions it would cost to bury the lines, wouldn't it be
ultimately worth it in the end? How many times do they have to repair messes
like the current one before the buried lines would be paid for?


BCBlazysusan

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Feb 4, 2009, 3:32:53 AM2/4/09
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> like the current one before the buried lines would be paid for?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

One of the villages here in Cincinnati were built that way. The
village is called Mariemont and it is such a pretty village, like
stepping back into time. Of course, the well off and affluent live
there. The village was designated a historical landmark. Not one power
line to be seen there, they are all underground.
http://www.mariemont.org/

dxAce

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Feb 4, 2009, 5:21:46 AM2/4/09
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Michael W. "I'm a college professor with a PhD" Bryant wrote:

When you lied about having that PhD was your brain "fragged"? If so, what was it "fragged" on?

Was it the after effects of getting stoned with your students at Weber State?


dave

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Feb 4, 2009, 8:00:26 AM2/4/09
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Mike wrote:
> On Feb 3, 8:07 am, dave <d...@dave.dave> wrote:
>> If you don't put the wires underground you gotta trim the trees.
>>
>> This is why we pay taxes.
>
>
> Duh...can you possibly be as stupid as you seem? It costs a little
> over a million dollars to pay for each mile of electrical wires put
> underground.

How much does it cost to trim the trees along the ROW?

Mike

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Feb 4, 2009, 8:52:09 AM2/4/09
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On Feb 4, 8:00 am, dave <d...@dave.dave> wrote:
>
> How much does it cost to trim the trees along the ROW?


You obviously do not grasp the number of trees involved. They are
trimmed regularly. Ice storms uproot them entirely, along with
electrical poles.

I guess you really think everyone in KY is barefoot and has an IQ of
35?

Mike,
Louisville

dave

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Feb 4, 2009, 9:12:49 AM2/4/09
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No. Then they'd have an excuse.

The lack of right-of-way maintenance saves someone a few dollars
up-front, but costs more (to the barefoot consumers) in the long run.

I lived in East Texas; I know what trees are, and I know that they must
be cut to prevent them from falling on power lines.

dxAce

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Feb 4, 2009, 10:29:19 AM2/4/09
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Michael W. "I'm a college professor with a PhD" Bryant wrote:

Heck, some even lie about having PhD's!


Mike

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Feb 4, 2009, 11:26:23 AM2/4/09
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On Feb 4, 10:29 am, dxAce <dx...@milestones.com> wrote:
>
> Heck, some even lie about having PhD's!


And others have jobs. When was the last time you were gainfully
employed, Steve? Oh, that's right, you retired at 40, didn't you?

MNMikeW

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Feb 4, 2009, 11:36:28 AM2/4/09
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"Mike" <mwbr...@aol.com> wrote in message
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You survive the ice storm Mike? Your antennas stay up?


Mike

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Feb 4, 2009, 12:19:42 PM2/4/09
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On Feb 4, 11:36 am, "MNMikeW" <MNMiik...@aol.com> wrote:
> "Mike" <mwbry...@aol.com> wrote in message

>
> news:f946a159-d1d2-455d...@v5g2000prm.googlegroups.com...
>
> You survive the ice storm Mike? Your antennas stay up?


Yeah, my electricity was only down during the daytime. I was fortunate
enough to have heat every night over the last week. That's far better
than how most have fared.

Lost two longwires I had up, but it shouldn't take much to replace
them. It was incredible what the E1 could receive while the
electricity was off!

Mike
Louisville, KY

dxAce

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Feb 4, 2009, 2:29:36 PM2/4/09
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Michael W. "I'm a college professor with a PhD" Bryant wrote:

At 50, due to disabilty, and I didn't have to lie about a thing.

I know that sounds utterly amazing to you, having that PhD and all!


RHF

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Feb 4, 2009, 2:41:45 PM2/4/09
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Beyond simply Trimming the Branches . . . It also
has to do with the "Fall" Radius of the Trees : A
45-Ft Tall Oak Tree has a 'potential' "Fall" Radius
of 45-Ft in Kentucky.

FWIW a 200-Ft Tall Pine Tree has a 'potential'
"Fall" Radius of 200-Ft here in the Sierras.

Here Living-in-the-Red-Zone {Forested Fire Area}
Technically the Insurance and Fire Laws would
have us 'Clear' all the trees that could Fall on the
House during a Forest Five. That would require
the de-forestation of all the very tall Pine and
Fir Trees with-in a 50-Ft, 75-Ft, 100-Ft, 150-Ft,
200-Ft, and 250-Ft or more depending in the
Height of the individual Trees.

~ RHF
.

dxAce

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Feb 4, 2009, 2:58:45 PM2/4/09
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Michael W. "I'm a college professor with a PhD" Bryant wrote:

> On Feb 4, 10:29 am, dxAce <dx...@milestones.com> wrote:
> >
> > Heck, some even lie about having PhD's!
>
> And others have jobs.

Yeah, and some have jobs at Louisville Technical Institute and still lied about
having a PhD!

LMFAO

dxAce
Michigan
USA


dave

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Feb 4, 2009, 3:45:08 PM2/4/09
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If you can type on the internets 24/7 you are not too disabled to work.

dave

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Feb 4, 2009, 3:50:51 PM2/4/09
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Properly maintained trees do not "fall over".

That's required by law in L. A. County as well. We take disaster prep
very seriously here.

dxAce

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Feb 4, 2009, 6:04:22 PM2/4/09
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dave wrote:

But I'm not here typing 24/7, boy!

Please, and I know it's tough for you, but try to pay attention.


cuh...@webtv.net

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Feb 4, 2009, 6:59:39 PM2/4/09
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Hurricanes and Tornados don't care anything about Trees,,, properly
maintained, or not.
cuhulin

Telamon

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Feb 4, 2009, 8:54:40 PM2/4/09
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In article
<8215ae2f-ebc5-4846...@g38g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>,
BCBlazysusan <gk...@earthlink.net> wrote:

The power is underground in my neighborhood.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Telamon

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Feb 4, 2009, 8:55:56 PM2/4/09
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In article <8LSdnYynhJX2DBTU...@earthlink.com>,
dave <da...@dave.dave> wrote:

Actually it is pretty hard to keep up after thousands of miles of line.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Telamon

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Feb 4, 2009, 8:59:32 PM2/4/09
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In article <4989ffae$0$31170$bd46...@news.dslextreme.com>,
dave <da...@dave.dave> wrote:

They do when covered in ice.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

dave

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Feb 4, 2009, 9:10:04 PM2/4/09
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We're talking about freezing rain, not tornados.

Mike

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Feb 4, 2009, 9:24:53 PM2/4/09
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On Feb 4, 9:10 pm, dave <d...@dave.dave> wrote:
>
> We're talking about freezing rain, not tornados.

The freezing rain was accompanied by strong winds. The news accounts
refer to it as a "storm."

Mike

cuh...@webtv.net

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Feb 4, 2009, 11:22:14 PM2/4/09
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FEMA Once Again Proven to be Incompent as 55 Die Due to Bitter Cold.
www.standeyo.com
cuhulin

dave

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Feb 5, 2009, 8:05:26 AM2/5/09
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The widespread power outages could have been less severe with a little
right-of-way maintenance. If you'd quit voting against taxes maybe you
wouldn't be freezing in the dark right now.

http://www.georgiapower.com/community/treepruning.asp

The "disaster" was foreseen and you chose to do nothing.

Mike

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Feb 5, 2009, 9:45:25 AM2/5/09
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On Feb 5, 8:05 am, dave <d...@dave.dave> wrote:
>
> The widespread power outages could have been less severe with a little
> right-of-way maintenance.  If you'd quit voting against taxes maybe you
> wouldn't be freezing in the dark right now.
>
> http://www.georgiapower.com/community/treepruning.asp
>
> The "disaster" was foreseen and you chose to do nothing.


Dorkus Maximus has spoken!

Pruning trees in KY is much more expensive than pruning palm trees in
Los Angeles. Even with tax increases state and municipal gov't are
facing billions in cutbacks due to the worsening economy. Forgive us
if we put more emphasis on saving our school system than in pruning
trees.

Armchair quarterbacks always have the answer.


MNMikeW

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Feb 5, 2009, 10:30:53 AM2/5/09
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"Mike" <mwbr...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Dorkus Maximus has spoken!

---------------------------------------------------------------
Having been thru several up here in MN, Dave is indeed talking out of his
behind.


dxAce

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Feb 5, 2009, 10:55:22 AM2/5/09
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Michael W. "I'm a college professor with a PhD" Bryant wrote:

And here all along I thought it was the folks who lied about having a PhD who
always have the answer!


RHF

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Feb 5, 2009, 11:26:36 AM2/5/09
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On Feb 5, 6:45 am, Mike <mwbry...@aol.com> wrote:
> On Feb 5, 8:05 am, dave <d...@dave.dave> wrote:
>
>
>
> > The widespread power outages could have been less severe with a little
> > right-of-way maintenance.  If you'd quit voting against taxes maybe you
> > wouldn't be freezing in the dark right now.
>
> >http://www.georgiapower.com/community/treepruning.asp
>
> > The "disaster" was foreseen and you chose to do nothing.

- Dorkus Maximus has spoken!

MWB -proclaims- Dave [DaviD] Is "Dorkus Maximus"

me thinks at times . . . many would agree :o) ~ RHF

dave

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Feb 5, 2009, 1:06:12 PM2/5/09
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My link was for Georgia, not Los Angeles. My personal experience comes
for a learned-the-hard-way lesson when Katrina visited Houston in 1983
and my power was out for 10 days, due to trees taking out all the power
lines.

How hard is it to trim fucking trees?

dave

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Feb 5, 2009, 1:08:34 PM2/5/09
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Sure, sure. Are you saying trees are not the #1 cause of power failures?

MNMikeW

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Feb 5, 2009, 2:15:33 PM2/5/09
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"dave" <da...@dave.dave> wrote in message
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In a ice storm, yes. Is trimming trees easy, ahh, no. I used to trim trees
for a living.


dxAce

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Feb 5, 2009, 2:17:33 PM2/5/09
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dave wrote:

The problem with you drug addled 'tard boy leftists is that you've got Katrina
on-the-brain syndrome.

> How hard is it to trim fucking trees?

Well, they generally use power equipment, such as chainsaws and the like.
You know, the type of stuff YOU shouldn't be operating, Rickmers.

dxAce
Michigan
USA


cuh...@webtv.net

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Feb 5, 2009, 3:46:14 PM2/5/09
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I used to have two pecan trees about seventy feet tall near my house.The
winds from Katrina had caused them to lean toward my house.In June of
2006, I had them cut down and hauled away.Cost me $400.00 for each tree.
cuhulin

MNMikeW

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Feb 5, 2009, 4:04:29 PM2/5/09
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<cuh...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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That is REALLY cheap for trees that big.


Mike

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Feb 5, 2009, 8:07:08 PM2/5/09
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Hey Dave,

Folks with underground wiring are the one suffering the most:

http://www.wlky.com/news/18650730/detail.html

It's not all as simple as some think.

Mike
Louisville, KY

RHF

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Feb 5, 2009, 8:58:17 PM2/5/09
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Dave -asks- How hard is it to trim fucking trees?

Dave,

Tree Trimming is Real Work + Craft + Science
when done right and it don't come cheap to do
it right.

It is Real Work made easier with the right equipment
and can be some what dangerous with just a Ladder
and a Hand or Chain Saw.

Most Trees start out some what Symmetrical and
Balanced around their Trunk and Supported by their
Root System.

1 - Nature comes along in the Form of Wind, Snow
and Ice and breaks of a few Limbs; or Bugs and/or
Disease cause the loss of a few Limbs; or just may
be both. -Result- The Tree is no longer Symmetrical
and Balanced around it's Trunk.

2 - Nature comes along in the Form of Bugs and/or
Disease cause the loss of some of the Root System.
-Result- The Tree is no longer adequately Supported
by it's Root System.

3 - Man comes along and Trims a Tree so that a
Branch will not fall on a Power-Line of on a Home.
-Result- The Tree is no longer Symmetrical and
Balanced around it's Trunk.

4 - Man comes along and Digs in the Ground for
what ever reason and damages the Tree's Root
System. -Result- The Tree is no longer adequately
Supported by it's Root System.

All of the above items 1~4 can cause a whole Tree
to come falling down across a Power-Line, Damage
a Home, and/or Block a Road.

An non-symmetrical Tree that is no longer Balanced
around it's Trunk; with the Wind Blowing on it light
side will come down as fast as if it had been chopped
down with intent. Add Wet Soil and Damaged Roots
and it is not 'if' it is only a matter of "When".

Trees Fall Naturally :
We lost a 135-Ft Pine on the shore of the upper
Pond simply due to Wet Soil and Wind 3-Years
ago. Then we lost another 200-Ft Pine in to the
lower Pond again simply due to Wet Soil and Wind
2-Years ago; this one was 35-Ft back from the
edge of the Pond; and just missed the side of the
local Water Company's Tin Shed by ~15-Ft with
the Back-Up Pumping Station for Emergencies.

real work + craft + science = tree trimming ~ RHF
.
.

RHF

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Feb 5, 2009, 9:01:56 PM2/5/09
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On Feb 5, 1:04 pm, "MNMikeW" <MNMiik...@aol.com> wrote:
> <cuhu...@webtv.net> wrote in message

>
> news:1961-498...@storefull-3172.bay.webtv.net...>I used to have two pecan trees about seventy feet tall near my house.The
> > winds from Katrina had caused them to lean toward my house.In June of
> > 2006, I had them cut down and hauled away.Cost me $400.00 for each tree.
> > cuhulin

- That is REALLY cheap for trees that big.

Yeah - In California the Bill may have been $2400
depending on your Home and other Houses and
Utilities that are around it in the Fall Radius. ~ RHF

Telamon

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Feb 5, 2009, 9:27:13 PM2/5/09
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In article <498b2b25$0$31200$bd46...@news.dslextreme.com>,
dave <da...@dave.dave> wrote:

You are not thinking this through.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

cuh...@webtv.net

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Feb 5, 2009, 10:25:58 PM2/5/09
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The guy is originally from Idaho, his last name is Duck.He got a lot of
tree cutting jobs in Mississippi right after Hurricane Katrina.He lives
in Clinton,Mississippi, a suburb city of Jackson about five miles West
of doggy's couch.He told me he likes Mississippi so much he decided to
move here.Two of the guys who cut my trees down are his sons.His other
son was going to come to Mississippi, but sadly he was killed in a
motocycle accident in Idaho.
cuhulin

Brenda Ann

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Feb 5, 2009, 11:52:17 PM2/5/09
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"Mike" <mwbr...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Hey Dave,
>
> Folks with underground wiring are the one suffering the most:
>
> http://www.wlky.com/news/18650730/detail.html
>
> It's not all as simple as some think.
>

That's because it's not ALL underground. Somewhere there's a feeder that
isn't buried. High tension feeders are generally fine in a storm because
they have wide exclusion zones, but anything near ground level is a
liability in a storm.


cuh...@webtv.net

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Feb 6, 2009, 12:41:59 AM2/6/09
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The phone line and electric wires on those poles on my street, at the
top of the hill, the phone line goes down that pole and
underground.About six years ago, everytime we got some rain, some of
that rainwater would short out my phone line.I used a neighbor's cell
phone to call the phone company.A phone company guy came over here and
he disconnected one of the phone line wires in the box in my carport.I
wonder if that disconnected wire would affect anything if I want DSL?
cuhulin

dxAce

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Feb 6, 2009, 4:04:37 AM2/6/09
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Michael W. "I'm a college professor with a PhD" Bryant wrote:

> Hey Dave,
>
> Folks with underground wiring are the one suffering the most:
>
> http://www.wlky.com/news/18650730/detail.html
>
> It's not all as simple as some think.

Some people think, and some don't. Those who don't sometimes wind up lying about
having a PhD, like you did.


Mike

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Feb 6, 2009, 8:06:36 AM2/6/09
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On Feb 6, 4:04 am, dxAce <dx...@milestones.com> wrote:
>
> Some people think, and some don't. Those who don't sometimes wind up lying about
> having a PhD, like you did.


What proof have you ever provided that there's any thing going on
upstairs with you, Steve? You can't even think of an original insult,
you just keep repeating the same nonsense you've been spewing
mindlessly for over five years. You're a joke, bloke. Just an old,
disabled, and pathetic individual insulting anyone that tries to stand
up to your childish behavior.

And speaking about lying: Think this over carefully: Are you disabled
or retired? Or aren't you living off the money you made from suing
your previous employer? Pick one. And then, we'll examine what you've
said in the archives.

In reality, you live such a boring and solitary life that you'll do or
say anything just to get a little bit of attention. People got you
figured out. Just look at the ratings your posts earn...

Keep yapping, little dog. Don't forget to keep re-posting material
from DXLD without credit.


dxAce

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Michael W. "I'm a college professor with a PhD" Bryant wrote:

> On Feb 6, 4:04 am, dxAce <dx...@milestones.com> wrote:
> >
> > Some people think, and some don't. Those who don't sometimes wind up lying about
> > having a PhD, like you did.
>
> What proof have you ever provided that there's any thing going on
> upstairs with you, Steve?

Proof? Well, I haven't lied about having a PhD, like you have, boy!

> You can't even think of an original insult,
> you just keep repeating the same nonsense you've been spewing
> mindlessly for over five years.

Your lying is indeed nonsense, boy!

> You're a joke, bloke. Just an old,
> disabled, and pathetic individual insulting anyone that tries to stand
> up to your childish behavior.

Old?

>
>
> And speaking about lying: Think this over carefully: Are you disabled
> or retired?

I am retired due to disability, boy!

> Or aren't you living off the money you made from suing
> your previous employer?

I've never sued a previous employer, boy!

> Pick one.

Pick your nose, boy!

> And then, we'll examine what you've
> said in the archives.

Here's one of yours from the archives, boy: "I'm a college professor with a PhD."

>
> In reality, you live such a boring and solitary life that you'll do or
> say anything just to get a little bit of attention. People got you
> figured out. Just look at the ratings your posts earn...

Ratings, what ratings, boy?

> Keep yapping, little dog. Don't forget to keep re-posting material
> from DXLD without credit.

Without credit?


dave

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Feb 6, 2009, 8:53:30 AM2/6/09
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Sounds like a badly installed underground distro. We're underground
here and have had 2 major earthquakes with no damage to the distribution.

What are these "grates"? Here we have floodproof vent stacks.

dave

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On the contrary, My point is people need work and there's work that
needs to be done.

dxAce

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Michael W. "I'm a college professor with a PhD" Bryant wrote:

> Keep yapping, little dog. Don't forget to keep re-posting material
> from DXLD without credit.

Without credit? Isn't that what happened to your "PhD" at Wayne State?

No credit!

LMFAO at the PhDufus from Louisville Technical Institute.


Mike

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But, as you've personally documented, I am a college professor and I
did do my doctorate work at Wayne State. That makes me far more of a
productive member of society as opposed to you! Why don't you tell
everyone, once again, how you've called my employers and even
attempted to fraudently secure my transcripts from Wayne State? Why
don't you attack my relatives, again, now that the courts have
expressly said such actions constitute internet harrassment? I think
those actions, alone, show everyone what a deeply disturbed, and even
dangerous, individual you are. You can laugh all you want, but I think
anyone with even half a brain (which obviously excludes RHF and
Cuhulin!) can easily discern who the real dufus is....

Now, go play with your radios, old man. They're really all you've got!
Why don't YOU stop LYING, by telling us the truth about both your
military discharge and the conditions surrounding the end of your last
job?

dxAce

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Feb 6, 2009, 11:15:38 AM2/6/09
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Michael W. "I'm a college professor with a PhD" Bryant wrote:

> On Feb 6, 10:39 am, dxAce <dx...@milestones.com> wrote:
> > Michael W. "I'm a college professor with a PhD" Bryant wrote:
> >
> > > Keep yapping, little dog. Don't forget to keep re-posting material
> > > from DXLD without credit.
> >
> > Without credit? Isn't that what happened to your "PhD" at Wayne State?
> >
> > No credit!
> >
> > LMFAO at the PhDufus from Louisville Technical Institute.
>
> But, as you've personally documented, I am a college professor and I
> did do my doctorate work at Wayne State.

Louisville Technical Institute is a "college"? You didn't complete any doctoral
work at Wayne State, boy!

> That makes me far more of a
> productive member of society as opposed to you!

Sez you!

> Why don't you tell
> everyone, once again, how you've called my employers and even
> attempted to fraudently secure my transcripts from Wayne State?

Fraudulently? I called them and asked them if you received a PhD, and they
(laughed) and said no! I never asked for transcripts, boy!

> Why
> don't you attack my relatives, again, now that the courts have
> expressly said such actions constitute internet harrassment?

Why don't you shove that "harassment" up your fat ass, boy!

> I think
> those actions, alone, show everyone what a deeply disturbed, and even
> dangerous, individual you are.

Dangerous?

> You can laugh all you want, but I think
> anyone with even half a brain (which obviously excludes RHF and
> Cuhulin!) can easily discern who the real dufus is....
>
> Now, go play with your radios, old man. They're really all you've got!

Got more than a fake PhD, boy!

>
> Why don't YOU stop LYING, by telling us the truth about both your
> military discharge and the conditions surrounding the end of your last
> job?

I was honourably discharged from the military service. How do you think the VA
put me on disability without that?

My last job? My last job no longer exists as the factory was closed down.


cuh...@webtv.net

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Feb 6, 2009, 11:20:36 AM2/6/09
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www.layoffdaily.com has some job listings there, for people looking
for jobs.
cuhulin

RHF

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Feb 6, 2009, 11:32:14 AM2/6/09
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On Feb 6, 8:03 am, Mike <mwbry...@aol.com> wrote:
> On Feb 6, 10:39 am, dxAce <dx...@milestones.com> wrote:
>
> > Michael W. "I'm a college professor with a PhD" Bryant wrote:
>
> > > Keep yapping, little dog. Don't forget to keep re-posting material
> > > from DXLD without credit.
>
> > Without credit? Isn't that what happened to your "PhD" at Wayne State?
>
> > No credit!
>
> > LMFAO at the PhDufus from Louisville Technical Institute.
>
- But, as you've personally documented,
- I am a college professor and I did do my
- doctorate work at Wayne State.
- That makes me far more of a productive member
- of society as opposed to you!

MWB,

So the 'measure' of someones "productive
member of society" rests on going to college
and being a college teacher ?

IMHO - Spoken like a true ELITIST [.]

just a lesser mortal human being ~ RHF
who believes in the equality of all
.
I say Hail To the : Joe-the-Plumbers, AutoWorkers,
Sanitation Engineers, Truck Drivers, Solders, CNAs
& LVNs, Firemen & Police Men, Farm Workers,
Small Business Owners and yes even Teachers :
They are the Human Glue of Our Society. Each
and Everyone a Valued, Respected and Contributing
Members of Our Society.
.
.

dxAce

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Feb 6, 2009, 11:35:02 AM2/6/09
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cuh...@webtv.net wrote:

> www.layoffdaily.com has some job listings there, for people looking
> for jobs.

Bryant would do well at the local Piggly Wiggly!


dxAce

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Feb 6, 2009, 11:39:24 AM2/6/09
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RHF wrote:

> On Feb 6, 8:03 am, Mike <mwbry...@aol.com> wrote:
> > On Feb 6, 10:39 am, dxAce <dx...@milestones.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Michael W. "I'm a college professor with a PhD" Bryant wrote:
> >
> > > > Keep yapping, little dog. Don't forget to keep re-posting material
> > > > from DXLD without credit.
> >
> > > Without credit? Isn't that what happened to your "PhD" at Wayne State?
> >
> > > No credit!
> >
> > > LMFAO at the PhDufus from Louisville Technical Institute.
> >
> - But, as you've personally documented,
> - I am a college professor and I did do my
> - doctorate work at Wayne State.
> - That makes me far more of a productive member
> - of society as opposed to you!
>
> MWB,
>
> So the 'measure' of someones "productive
> member of society" rests on going to college
> and being a college teacher ?

In Bryant's world, being "productive" rests upon ones ability to lie about a
non-existent PhD!


dxAce

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Feb 6, 2009, 11:43:21 AM2/6/09
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dxAce wrote:

And, that drug bust whilst he was a Weber State!


MNMikeW

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"dxAce" <dx...@milestones.com> wrote in message
news:498C68A9...@milestones.com...
Looks like Stevie the stalker is at it again.


Mike

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Feb 6, 2009, 11:49:27 AM2/6/09
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On Feb 6, 11:15 am, dxAce <dx...@milestones.com> wrote:

> Louisville Technical Institute is a "college"? You didn't complete any doctoral
> work at Wayne State, boy!


You know that I finished my doctoral coursework and that I've taught
university classes for 29 years. Yes, LTI is a university, part of the
largest private university system in the state of KY. And, by the way,
I teach at other schools, too, and I've won two awards for my teaching
in the last three years. I've helped hundreds of students secure
technical jobs all across the country. During that time, I believe
that you've remained unemployed and your biggest contribution to
society is collecting QSL cards and acting childish on this newsgroup.
Way to go, Doof-master! Way to use that education from Grand Valley
State!

Steve Lare <--- Unemployed and generally a drain on society! If you
want to see some lying, check Steve's early posts in this
newsgroup....

dxAce

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Feb 6, 2009, 11:51:57 AM2/6/09
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MNMikeW wrote:

Oh come on, Bryant loves to be reminded of the moments when he was leading his
students astray.


Mike

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Feb 6, 2009, 11:54:41 AM2/6/09
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On Feb 6, 11:32 am, RHF <rhf-newsgro...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>
> MWB,
>
> So the 'measure' of someones "productive
> member of society" rests on going to college
> and being a college teacher ?
>
> IMHO - Spoken like a true ELITIST [.]
>
> just a lesser mortal human being ~ RHF
> who believes in the equality of all
>  .
> I say Hail To the : Joe-the-Plumbers, AutoWorkers,
> Sanitation Engineers, Truck Drivers, Solders, CNAs
> & LVNs, Firemen & Police Men, Farm Workers,
> Small Business Owners and yes even Teachers :
> They are the Human Glue of Our Society.  Each
> and Everyone a Valued, Respected and Contributing
> Members of Our Society.
>  .
>  .

RHF, as usual, you could not reason your way out of a paper bag!
Anyone working and contributing to our society deserves praise, not
just college professors. Thanks for putting your words in my mouth.
Typical of you. Anyone holding a job deserves praise. which, of
course, Steve Lare does not. I'll even give you credit, though some
might feel that retired gov't workers might be considered a lesser
category...

Mike

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Feb 6, 2009, 11:56:11 AM2/6/09
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On Feb 6, 11:39 am, dxAce <dx...@milestones.com> wrote:

>
> In Bryant's world, being "productive" rests upon ones ability to lie about a
> non-existent PhD>


Nope, it rests on having a job. Something you don't have. Would
interfere with your SW listening...

dxAce

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Feb 6, 2009, 11:56:57 AM2/6/09
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Mike wrote:

> On Feb 6, 11:15 am, dxAce <dx...@milestones.com> wrote:
>
> > Louisville Technical Institute is a "college"? You didn't complete any doctoral
> > work at Wayne State, boy!
>
> You know that I finished my doctoral coursework and that I've taught
> university classes for 29 years.

University classes? Which University's? For 29 years? You're full of shit, boy!

> Yes, LTI is a university, part of the
> largest private university system in the state of KY.

That's stretching the term "university" just a bit thin, don't ya think?

> And, by the way,
> I teach at other schools, too, and I've won two awards for my teaching
> in the last three years.

Which schools, boy? Which awards, boy?

> I've helped hundreds of students secure
> technical jobs all across the country. During that time, I believe
> that you've remained unemployed and your biggest contribution to
> society is collecting QSL cards and acting childish on this newsgroup.
> Way to go, Doof-master! Way to use that education from Grand Valley
> State!

A great education, and, I've never felt compelled to lie about having a PhD!

> Steve Lare <--- Unemployed and generally a drain on society! If you
> want to see some lying, check Steve's early posts in this
> newsgroup....

Yep, check 'em all!


dxAce

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Feb 6, 2009, 11:59:47 AM2/6/09
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Michael W. "I'm a college professor with a PhD" Bryant wrote:

> On Feb 6, 11:39 am, dxAce <dx...@milestones.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > In Bryant's world, being "productive" rests upon ones ability to lie about a
> > non-existent PhD>
>
> Nope, it rests on having a job.

A job and a fake PhD... what a life!


cuh...@webtv.net

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Feb 6, 2009, 11:51:09 AM2/6/09
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A lot of thingys we take for granted at the food stores originated from
Piggly Wiggly Memphis,Tennessee.There are some Piggly Wiggly food stores
around here.I like Piggly Wiggly stores.There are more than 600 Piggly
Wiggly stores in 17 states.

On the web, History of Piggly Wiggly Stores.

Today seems like Saturday to me.
cuhulin

RHF

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Feb 6, 2009, 12:09:35 PM2/6/09
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On Feb 6, 8:56 am, Mike <mwbry...@aol.com> wrote:
> On Feb 6, 11:39 am, dxAce <dx...@milestones.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > In Bryant's world, being "productive" rests upon ones ability to lie about a
> > non-existent PhD>

- Nope, it rests on having a job.
- Something you don't have.
- Would interfere with your SW listening...

MWB - Some people don't need "JOBS"
They Had Life Long Avocations : Gandhi,
MLK, Mother Teressa, Billy Graham,
Aung San Suu Kyi to name a few . . .
.

dxAce

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Feb 6, 2009, 12:19:42 PM2/6/09
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Michael W. Bryant, who must have been drug addled when he stated: "I'm a college


professor with a PhD", wrote:

> On Feb 6, 4:04 am, dxAce <dx...@milestones.com> wrote:
> >
> > Some people think, and some don't. Those who don't sometimes wind up lying about
> > having a PhD, like you did.
>
> What proof have you ever provided that there's any thing going on
> upstairs with you, Steve? You can't even think of an original insult,
> you just keep repeating the same nonsense you've been spewing
> mindlessly for over five years. You're a joke, bloke. Just an old,
> disabled, and pathetic individual insulting anyone that tries to stand
> up to your childish behavior.
>
> And speaking about lying: Think this over carefully: Are you disabled
> or retired? Or aren't you living off the money you made from suing
> your previous employer? Pick one. And then, we'll examine what you've
> said in the archives.

I'm waiting for your examination, dufus!


Mike

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Feb 6, 2009, 12:40:07 PM2/6/09
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On Feb 6, 12:09 pm, RHF <rhf-newsgro...@pacbell.net> wrote:

>
> MWB - Some people don't need "JOBS"
> They Had Life Long Avocations : Gandhi,
> MLK, Mother Teressa, Billy Graham,
> Aung San Suu Kyi to name a few . . .
>  .

So, are you suggesting that Steve Lare (or YOU, for that matter) is in
that category of individuals?!?

If so, you're more deluded than I ever imagined!

dxAce

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Feb 6, 2009, 12:43:43 PM2/6/09
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RHF wrote:

Bryant has stated that I'm "just an old, disabled, and pathetic individual..." and
then whines because I don't have a job!

It's no wonder he never got that PhD!


dxAce

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Feb 6, 2009, 12:51:27 PM2/6/09
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Michael W. "I'm a college professor with a PhD" Bryant wrote:

> On Feb 6, 11:32 am, RHF <rhf-newsgro...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> >
> > MWB,
> >
> > So the 'measure' of someones "productive
> > member of society" rests on going to college
> > and being a college teacher ?
> >
> > IMHO - Spoken like a true ELITIST [.]
> >
> > just a lesser mortal human being ~ RHF
> > who believes in the equality of all
> > .
> > I say Hail To the : Joe-the-Plumbers, AutoWorkers,
> > Sanitation Engineers, Truck Drivers, Solders, CNAs
> > & LVNs, Firemen & Police Men, Farm Workers,
> > Small Business Owners and yes even Teachers :
> > They are the Human Glue of Our Society. Each
> > and Everyone a Valued, Respected and Contributing
> > Members of Our Society.
> > .
> > .
>
> RHF, as usual, you could not reason your way out of a paper bag!

Bryant, as usual, you could not reason your way into actually getting that PhD!

David Eduardo

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Feb 6, 2009, 1:10:45 PM2/6/09
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"dave" <da...@dave.dave> wrote in message
news:iYmdnfvrSczL3BHU...@earthlink.com...

>>>>
>>> Sure, sure. Are you saying trees are not the #1 cause of power
>>> failures?
>>
>> You are not thinking this through.
>
>
> On the contrary, My point is people need work and there's work that needs
> to be done.

Most utilities are privately owned... and we are talking millions and
millions of trees. Were they all to be trimmed, electric rates would
increase.

dxAce

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Feb 6, 2009, 1:30:48 PM2/6/09
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Yeah, golly, that SW listening is a bad thing!

Best you not do any more of that, eh, Bryant? After all, you could study and
actually get that PhD you lied about!


dave

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Feb 6, 2009, 2:14:06 PM2/6/09
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Spoken like the true oinker that you are. If privately held utilities
can't maintain their plant they should be taken over by cooperatives or
some such who will. I'll bet you the rates are going to go up more from
this neglect than they would have from paying for proper right-of-way
maintenance. Splicing power lines every 50 feet costs money too.

One good thing about Mr. Obama is his oft stated motto: Yes we can.

RHF

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Feb 6, 2009, 3:25:39 PM2/6/09
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On Feb 6, 9:40 am, Mike <mwbry...@aol.com> wrote:
> On Feb 6, 12:09 pm, RHF <rhf-newsgro...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> > MWB - Some people don't need "JOBS"
> > They Had Life Long Avocations : Gandhi,
> > MLK, Mother Teressa, Billy Graham,
> > Aung San Suu Kyi to name a few . . .
> >  .

- So, are you suggesting that Steve Lare (or YOU,
- for that matter) is in that category of individuals?!?

Gee Did 'i' Suggest That ? ? ?

No -however- I did point out several notable
exceptions to your blanket statement.

hell according to my standards 'mwb' you are
a productive member of this society ~ RHF

- If so, you're more deluded than I ever imagined!

MWB - 'deluded'
You Know When You Are Winning An Argument
When a Super-Smart 'Enlightened" Liberal Starts Name Calling*.
* Loses their ability to think and get's emotional - - - rotfl ~ RHF
.
MWB -once-again- OK LET'S ALL UNDERSTAND
THE LIBERAL POSTING RULES
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/ad720118c522cef0
.
Hello - You Know When You Are Winning An Argument :
When a Super-Smart 'Enlightened" Liberal Starts Name Calling
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/318979fbe8546cfa
- - - = = = RHF's Canned Reply = = = - - -
[>: To Liberal Name Calling :<]
ROTFL - You Know When You Are Winning An Argument :
When a Super-Smart 'Enlightened" Liberal Starts Name Calling*.
* They Lose Their Ability To Think And Get Emotional - rotfl ~ RHF
.
RHF's Posts -wrt- To Liberal Name Calling & Canned Reply
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/search?group=rec.radio.shortwave&q=To+Liberal+Name+Calling+Canned+Reply+RHF&qt_g=Search+this+group
.
Clearly in the Obamanation© and the Age-of-Obama-R-Us© :
There Is NO Freedom of Speech : There Is NO Right to Dissent
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/022aa01eae08c242
.
In-the-Name-of-Obama-Speakers© :
The Blaming 'Bush' Game Continues . . .
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/60d5a12b7e8ded20
.

Mike

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Feb 6, 2009, 3:37:36 PM2/6/09
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On Feb 6, 3:25�pm, RHF <rhf-newsgro...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> On Feb 6, 9:40�am, Mike <mwbry...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > On Feb 6, 12:09�pm, RHF <rhf-newsgro...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>
> > > MWB - Some people don't need "JOBS"
> > > They Had Life Long Avocations : Gandhi,
> > > MLK, Mother Teressa, Billy Graham,
> > > Aung San Suu Kyi to name a few . . .
> > > �.
>
> - So, are you suggesting that Steve Lare (or YOU,
> - for that matter) is in that category of individuals?!?
>
> Gee Did 'i' Suggest That ? ? ?
>
> No -however- I did point out several notable
> exceptions to your blanket statement.
>
> hell according to my standards 'mwb' you are
> a productive member of this society ~ RHF
>
> - If so, you're more deluded than I ever imagined!
>
> MWB - 'deluded'
> You Know When You Are Winning An Argument
> When a Super-Smart 'Enlightened" Liberal Starts Name Calling*.
> * Loses their ability to think and get's emotional - - - rotfl ~ RHF
> �.
> MWB -once-again- OK LET'S ALL UNDERSTAND
> THE LIBERAL POSTING RULEShttp://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/ad720118c522cef0

> �.
> Hello - You Know When You Are Winning An Argument :
> When a Super-Smart 'Enlightened" Liberal Starts Name Callinghttp://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/318979fbe8546cfa

> - - - = = = RHF's Canned Reply = = = - - -
> [>: To Liberal Name Calling :<]
> ROTFL - You Know When You Are Winning An Argument :
> When a Super-Smart 'Enlightened" Liberal Starts Name Calling*.
> * They Lose Their Ability To Think And Get Emotional - rotfl ~ RHF
> �.
> RHF's Posts -wrt- To Liberal Name Calling & Canned Replyhttp://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/search?group=rec.r...
> �.

> Clearly in the Obamanation� and the Age-of-Obama-R-Us� :
> There Is NO Freedom of Speech : There Is NO Right to Dissenthttp://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/022aa01eae08c242

> �.
> In-the-Name-of-Obama-Speakers� :
> The Blaming 'Bush' Game Continues . . .http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/60d5a12b7e8ded20
> �.

Proving that RHF can turn any thread into an extremely tangential rant
against Obama. Can you say one-trick-pony? Naw, that's not fair to
ponies....

dxAce

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Feb 6, 2009, 3:48:56 PM2/6/09
to

Mike wrote:

> On Feb 6, 12:09 pm, RHF <rhf-newsgro...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>
> >
> > MWB - Some people don't need "JOBS"
> > They Had Life Long Avocations : Gandhi,
> > MLK, Mother Teressa, Billy Graham,
> > Aung San Suu Kyi to name a few . . .
> > .
>
> So, are you suggesting that Steve Lare (or YOU, for that matter) is in
> that category of individuals?!?

Well, I certainly don't recall any of them lying about having a PhD!

> If so, you're more deluded than I ever imagined!

You, having lied about having a PhD, are the one who is deluded, boy!


dave

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Feb 6, 2009, 4:10:51 PM2/6/09
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RHF wrote:
2
> .
> In-the-Name-of-Obama-Speakers© :
> The Blaming 'Bush' Game Continues . . .
> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/60d5a12b7e8ded20
> .

Mr. Bush will have his day in court. Then we'll see whether the blame
is misplaced.

What's with this "da" instead of "the"? Are you trying to get racist
street cred or what?

RHF

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Feb 6, 2009, 4:52:10 PM2/6/09
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- Proving that RHF can turn any thread into an
- extremely tangential rant against Obama.

MWB - "Tangential" ? {Rant It Was}
1 - Did You Not Name Call ?
2 - Did I Not Call You On Your Name Calling
in the name of the Obama-Speakers© i rebuke you ~ RHF
.
- - - = = = RHF's Canned Reply 'Rant' = = = - - -


[>: To Liberal Name Calling :<]
ROTFL - You Know When You Are Winning An Argument :
When a Super-Smart 'Enlightened" Liberal Starts Name Calling*.
* They Lose Their Ability To Think And Get Emotional - rotfl ~ RHF

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/318979fbe8546cfa
.
- Can you say one-trick-pony?
- Naw, that's not fair to ponies....

Honestly MWB,

Why does an un-documented PhD have to resort
to juvenile grade school name calling ?

MWB - Please Post At Your College Post-Graduate
Educational Level.

what would your former students think if they read
some of this replies . . . it boggles the mind ~ RHF
.
MWB -wrt- President Barack 'Hussein' Obama
-aka- Double "OO" Bama© Super-President-Man©

I do not have to RANT AGAINST OBAMA
I just have to simply report want is now being
reported In-the-News by US Media Outlets
[ Remember the Press Eats It Young {Creations} ]
Note - The Liberal Media Created Obama
and it will be the Liberal Media that starts
to pick-a-way and tear down Obama.
.
CBS - Obama's Approval Rating: Down to 62 Percent
http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/02/05/politics/politicalhotsheet/entry4778267.shtml
.
NPR - Obama {No More Mister Nice Guy}
President Strikes Back At Stimulus Bill Critics
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=100341252
.
TIME - Europe Is Fuming About the Stimulus Package
"BUY AMERICAN" Angers Foreigners
http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1877162,00.html
.
ABC - Angry Obama Blasts Lawmakers
for Dragging Feet on Stimulus Bill
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=6820336&page=1
.
NBC - Jobless Rate Surges to 7.6%, Highest Since 1992
Employers Cut 598,000 Jobs in January 2009,
Worst Month Since 1974
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29050656/
.

David Eduardo

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"dave" <da...@dave.dave> wrote in message
news:498c8c05$0$31214$bd46...@news.dslextreme.com...

> David Eduardo wrote:
>>
>> "dave" <da...@dave.dave> wrote in message
>> news:iYmdnfvrSczL3BHU...@earthlink.com...
>>>>>>
>>>>> Sure, sure. Are you saying trees are not the #1 cause of power
>>>>> failures?
>>>>
>>>> You are not thinking this through.
>>>
>>>
>>> On the contrary, My point is people need work and there's work that
>>> needs to be done.
>>
>> Most utilities are privately owned... and we are talking millions and
>> millions of trees. Were they all to be trimmed, electric rates would
>> increase.

> Spoken like the true oinker that you are. If privately held utilities
> can't maintain their plant they should be taken over by cooperatives or
> some such who will.

Trees don't grow on their "plant." They grow along the right of way.
Utilities have trimming programs, but if they trimmed to the degree needed
in a major storm, entire cities would protest. You can't prepare for
everything.

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dxAce

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Feb 6, 2009, 6:03:45 PM2/6/09
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ASCII wrote:

> dxAce wrote:
> >I am retired due to disability, boy!
>
> Finessing a loophole in some bleeding heart charity program,
> then chronic postings here with super conservative comments
> is more than a little hypocritical, maybe even dishonest?

Well, I guess if Social Security is some "bleeding heart charity program" then
so be it.

But, I certainly don't ever, ever, want to hear that you're collecting due to
some unfortunate happenstance that you encounter, boy!

Better that your sorry ass just be placed on the ice flow, and you be sent out
to sea to die!


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Telamon

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Feb 6, 2009, 6:48:46 PM2/6/09
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In article <iYmdnfvrSczL3BHU...@earthlink.com>,
dave <da...@dave.dave> wrote:

> Telamon wrote:
> > In article <498b2b25$0$31200$bd46...@news.dslextreme.com>,
> > dave <da...@dave.dave> wrote:
> >
> >> MNMikeW wrote:
> >>> "Mike" <mwbr...@aol.com> wrote in message
> >>> news:4a458097-2eb5-47ac...@40g2000prx.googlegroups.com...
> >>> On Feb 5, 8:05 am, dave <d...@dave.dave> wrote:
> >>>> The widespread power outages could have been less severe with a little
> >>>> right-of-way maintenance. If you'd quit voting against taxes maybe you
> >>>> wouldn't be freezing in the dark right now.
> >>>>
> >>>> http://www.georgiapower.com/community/treepruning.asp
> >>>>
> >>>> The "disaster" was foreseen and you chose to do nothing.
> >>>
> >>> Dorkus Maximus has spoken!
> >>>
> >>> Pruning trees in KY is much more expensive than pruning palm trees in
> >>> Los Angeles. Even with tax increases state and municipal gov't are
> >>> facing billions in cutbacks due to the worsening economy. Forgive us
> >>> if we put more emphasis on saving our school system than in pruning
> >>> trees.
> >>>
> >>> Armchair quarterbacks always have the answer.
> >>>
> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------
> >>> Having been thru several up here in MN, Dave is indeed talking out of his
> >>> behind.

> >>>
> >>>
> >> Sure, sure. Are you saying trees are not the #1 cause of power failures?
> >
> > You are not thinking this through.
>
>
> On the contrary, My point is people need work and there's work that
> needs to be done.

No you have not thought it through. If you did you would come up with a
list of positive and negative outcomes. You would have to look at these
lists and determine the benefits and costs. You would then pick a course
of action based on short and long term benefits versus costs.

You have not done this or thought it through and just gave a distracting
answer. Good luck to you on that.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Telamon

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Feb 6, 2009, 6:54:36 PM2/6/09
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In article <498c8c05$0$31214$bd46...@news.dslextreme.com>,
dave <da...@dave.dave> wrote:

And what a motto it is.
Yes we can what?
Make things worse that they are now?
Screwup every time you try to do something useful?
Repeat actions over and over because you screwed up?
Appoint tax cheats to run the treasury?
Have government spend more money putting a further load on the economy?
Be the big eared idiot of the USA? Sure thing.

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Telamon
Ventura, California

Telamon

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Feb 6, 2009, 7:03:58 PM2/6/09
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In article <498CC1D1...@milestones.com>,
dxAce <dx...@milestones.com> wrote:

You paid for social security your whole working life. If you were an
employee during that time your employer paid as much into SS as you did.
People that work for themselves pay twice as much as employees do.

You don't live off anyone until you collect more money then you and your
past employers have put in the fund. Once you have collected more than
you put in it becomes a Ponzi scheme. Thank congress for that
development and stealing from your retirement.

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Telamon
Ventura, California

Telamon

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Feb 6, 2009, 7:21:44 PM2/6/09
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In article
<869ad837-b231-4be6...@v39g2000pro.googlegroups.com>,
Mike <mwbr...@aol.com> wrote:

> On Feb 6, 10:39 am, dxAce <dx...@milestones.com> wrote:
> > Michael W. "I'm a college professor with a PhD" Bryant wrote:
> >

> > > Keep yapping, little dog. Don't forget to keep re-posting material
> > > from DXLD without credit.
> >
> > Without credit? Isn't that what happened to your "PhD" at Wayne State?
> >
> > No credit!
> >
> > LMFAO at the PhDufus from Louisville Technical Institute.
>
>
>
> But, as you've personally documented, I am a college professor and I
> did do my doctorate work at Wayne State. That makes me far more of a
> productive member of society as opposed to you!

< SNIP >

I don't know about that. A Ph. D is the highest doctorate a person can
normally attain. A person that knows practically all about some subject
to the point that he writes articles and books to further learning about
that subject increasing knowledge among fellow men. He is usually
pushing the boundaries of that subject producing original work.

The path is bachelors, masters, more advanced courses, then a published
dissertation or thesis under the guidance of a sponsor. Once the
published original work is reviewed and accepted by peers in that field
then a Ph.D. is awarded by the university where the work was done.

So where is your thesis?
Who was your sponsor?
What have you published since then?

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Telamon
Ventura, California

Telamon

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Feb 6, 2009, 7:26:56 PM2/6/09
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In article <1958-498...@storefull-3172.bay.webtv.net>,
cuh...@webtv.net wrote:

It is Saturday for me this weekend. Two for the price of one.

What is in the grocery stories around here did not originate at Piggly
Wiggly in Memphis, Tennessee.

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Telamon
Ventura, California

Telamon

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Feb 6, 2009, 7:30:01 PM2/6/09
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In article <498C68A9...@milestones.com>,
dxAce <dx...@milestones.com> wrote:

> dxAce wrote:
>
> > RHF wrote:


> >
> > > On Feb 6, 8:03 am, Mike <mwbry...@aol.com> wrote:
> > > > On Feb 6, 10:39 am, dxAce <dx...@milestones.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Michael W. "I'm a college professor with a PhD" Bryant wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > > Keep yapping, little dog. Don't forget to keep re-posting material
> > > > > > from DXLD without credit.
> > > >
> > > > > Without credit? Isn't that what happened to your "PhD" at Wayne State?
> > > >
> > > > > No credit!
> > > >
> > > > > LMFAO at the PhDufus from Louisville Technical Institute.
> > > >

> > > - But, as you've personally documented,
> > > - I am a college professor and I did do my
> > > - doctorate work at Wayne State.
> > > - That makes me far more of a productive member
> > > - of society as opposed to you!


> > >
> > > MWB,
> > >
> > > So the 'measure' of someones "productive
> > > member of society" rests on going to college
> > > and being a college teacher ?
> >

> > In Bryant's world, being "productive" rests upon ones ability to lie about a

> > non-existent PhD!
>
> And, that drug bust whilst he was a Weber State!

That was his cannabis fieldwork for his dissertation.

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Telamon
Ventura, California

joe

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Feb 6, 2009, 8:04:04 PM2/6/09
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dave wrote:

> Telamon wrote:
>> In article <498b2b25$0$31200$bd46...@news.dslextreme.com>,
>> dave <da...@dave.dave> wrote:
>>
>>> MNMikeW wrote:
>>>> "Mike" <mwbr...@aol.com> wrote in message
>>>>
news:4a458097-2eb5-47ac...@40g2000prx.googlegroups.com...
>>>> On Feb 5, 8:05 am, dave <d...@dave.dave> wrote:
>>>>> The widespread power outages could have been less severe with a little
>>>>> right-of-way maintenance. If you'd quit voting against taxes maybe you
>>>>> wouldn't be freezing in the dark right now.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.georgiapower.com/community/treepruning.asp
>>>>>
>>>>> The "disaster" was foreseen and you chose to do nothing.
>>>>
>>>> Dorkus Maximus has spoken!
>>>>
>>>> Pruning trees in KY is much more expensive than pruning palm trees in
>>>> Los Angeles. Even with tax increases state and municipal gov't are
>>>> facing billions in cutbacks due to the worsening economy. Forgive us
>>>> if we put more emphasis on saving our school system than in pruning
>>>> trees.
>>>>
>>>> Armchair quarterbacks always have the answer.
>>>>
>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> Having been thru several up here in MN, Dave is indeed talking out of
>>>> his behind.
>>>>
>>>>

>>> Sure, sure. Are you saying trees are not the #1 cause of power
>>> failures?
>>
>> You are not thinking this through.
>
>
> On the contrary, My point is people need work and there's work that
> needs to be done.


Your point started with confusing the paying of taxes with work that is the
responsibility of the utilities.

You also seem to think the utilities don't know the cost/benefits of buried
lines.

The cost to bury lines would be borne by all the customers. Do you have any
clue what this would cost? Do you have any idea how it compares to the cost
of repairing overhead lines?

Do you have any indication that the trees were NOT trimmed according to
standards/guidelines or specifications?

To eliminate trees as an issue would probably removing, not trimming, any
tree within 40-50 feet of the power lines.

You also don't seem to realize that the recent storm was not typical.

Finally, when nobody agrees with your points, you bring up unemployment as
your point. Would you equip 600000 people with chainsaws to trim trees?

Telemon is right, you need to think about what you are posting.

dave

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Feb 6, 2009, 7:56:48 PM2/6/09
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Why would they protest? Not trimming trees around power lines is false
economy. It will cost more in the long run.

dave

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Feb 6, 2009, 8:01:40 PM2/6/09
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Telamon wrote:

>
> No you have not thought it through. If you did you would come up with a
> list of positive and negative outcomes. You would have to look at these
> lists and determine the benefits and costs. You would then pick a course
> of action based on short and long term benefits versus costs.
>
> You have not done this or thought it through and just gave a distracting
> answer. Good luck to you on that.
>

Like I said, I was in Houston for a Category 3 Hurricane. The splices
are still on the wires, from where the un-maintained trees shredded
them. They have since been very proactive regarding preventative
maintenance of right-of-way encroachment.

dave

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Feb 6, 2009, 8:11:09 PM2/6/09
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joe wrote:

> Finally, when nobody agrees with your points, you bring up unemployment as
> your point. Would you equip 600000 people with chainsaws to trim trees?
>
> Telemon is right, you need to think about what you are posting.
>

How do you know "nobody agrees with my points"?

I posted a link to Georgia Power backing-up everything I've said here
about the benefits of tree maintenance. Georgia and Kentucky have
similar physical attributes.

Lastly, this is a usenet bulletin board. It is not a deliberative body
with any power whatsoever. What I say don't matter one iota.

Telamon

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Feb 6, 2009, 8:29:56 PM2/6/09
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In article <498cdd79$0$31191$bd46...@news.dslextreme.com>,
dave <da...@dave.dave> wrote:

Which has naught to do with the question of overhead VS underground
power lines.

Now answer the question you originally posed.

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Telamon
Ventura, California

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