This Grundig a good "beginner radio"?
Hacienda de Ville
no luck with my first choice, the Kaito K11. Due to school, I don't
have the time to devote to research as I would like, but I am doing
some. I have found one radio that appeals to me and would like your
opinions on it. Even though I know it is not the smallest radio, I
could take it with me in the car. I like to go to parks and places to
study and I thought this might be a good choice.
The radio that I am talking about is the Grundig S359DL
(http://www.etoncorp.com/product_card/?p_ProductDbId=6265)
I plan on checking online for reviews, but I thought someone here
might have some knowledge of this> I appreciate any comments you may
have, good or bad.
Thanks!
Haci :)
Geoffrey S. Mendelson
> The radio that I am talking about is the Grundig S359DL
>
> (http://www.etoncorp.com/product_card/?p_ProductDbId=6265)
The link points to the S350DL, not the S359DL, so I'll assume
it's a typo.
Universal radio has them for $99 in a choice of colors.
http://www.rffun.com/catalog/portable/0043.html
They are real good guys, you might want to call them and
ask what they think.
Geoff.
--
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SWL-2010
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I own the black one just like in the picture and have been very satisfied
with it. I dont think it can be beat for the price. Of course there are many
people who will disgree with me. It does not have SSB though. But overall,
it's very nice.
Otis T.
>
>I own the black one just like in the picture and have been very satisfied
>with it. I dont think it can be beat for the price. Of course there are many
>people who will disgree with me. It does not have SSB though. But overall,
>it's very nice.
>
done with it?
Also, what is "DXing" and how popular is that?
Thanks,
Haci
SWL-2010
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>
>>
>>I own the black one just like in the picture and have been very satisfied
>>with it. I dont think it can be beat for the price. Of course there are
>>many
>>people who will disgree with me. It does not have SSB though. But overall,
>>it's very nice.
>>
> Could you explain the what exactly SSB is and what can be heard or
> done with it?
SSB is Single Side Band. There is Upper Side band and Lower Side band. On
Side band, is where you will hear Amatuer (Ham) radio operators and most all
types of Utility Transmissions, like Military, Civilian High Frequency
Aircraft, Marine, Ships at Sea, etc. To hear these types of Transmissions,
you must make sure and buy a receiver with SSB capability.
>
> Also, what is "DXing" and how popular is that?
Dxing is the common term used for tuning shortwave radios. DX meaning
"Distant Stations." So, when you're tuning your radio for far away
stations, you're said to be "DXing".
This is a great site to get started on Shortwave listening:
This one gives you some good ideas and tips.
http://people.smu.edu/arc/shortwave.html
>
> Thanks,
> Haci
Igor
I bought an earlier version of the S350, but had to return it because of
the drift (it's an analog radio with a digital readout). If it hadn't been
for that, it would've been a decent inexpensive radio. Supposedly the drift
problem has been minimized in the newer "DL" version, though I've read of
problems with the mechanism they use to lock the frequency (look through
the negative reviews on amazon.com).
In that price range, you should also check out the Kaito KA1103 and Kaito
KA2100. I haven't had any personal experience with these, but have read a
lot of good things about them.
--
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RHF
>
> - Show quoted text -
HdV - Given the 'choice' of the Grundig 350 DL
http://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/3112
and the Redsun RP2100 Radios : I would pick
the Redsun RP2100 Radio. ~ RHF
http://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/6055
http://www.radiointel.com/review-redsunrp2100.htm
http://cgi.ebay.com/_W0QQitemZ140138823638
http://cgi.ebay.com/_W0QQitemZ140138733367
-aka- CC Radio SW
http://www.ccrane.com/radios/shortwave-radios/ccradio-sw.aspx
-aka- Kaito KA2100
http://www.kaitousa.com/KA2100.htm
http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/portable/2100.html
http://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/6430
KA2100 AM FM SHORTWAVE RADIO and SSB Adapter
http://www.radios4you.com/kaito-ka2100-LG-photo.html
.
SWL-2010
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I have the older Grundig S-350, whch does have the drift problem. I still
used it a lot though because of it's good reception and fine audio quality,
and I never felt that uncomfortbale about correcting a small occasional
drift.
Then I bought the S-350DL which does correct the drift problem, takes double
A cells as well a D's has Stereo FM reception over headphones, very good
reception, great audio and some pretty good featues for analog tuning with
digital readout. I've been very happy with it.
I then bought the Kaito KA-2100 from an E-Bay dealer, and found it to be
quite a good find for the price. I think I gave about 120 bucks delivered.
It has 50 memories, lots of nice features, some pretty cool dial lights. a
"Q Tune" feature, excellent audio, and reception as good as the Grundig
S-350DL. You can purchase an outboard SSB adapter for it. I have not
bothered to do that since I have plenty of receivers with SSB capability.
These 3 receivers are all pretty good for the price, size and features. I
like them all and still get plenty of use out of them.
Jim Driscoll
sound. Tuning is rock stable and performance is quite surprising for the
price.
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Hacienda de Ville
Wow, thanks for all the info!
Haci
Hacienda de Ville
<jdri...@trentu.ca> wrote:
>Like many others, I would recommend the Kaito KA 2100 if you like the S350
>sound. Tuning is rock stable and performance is quite surprising for the
>price.
The Kaito 2100 or Redsun 2100?
Also, I forgot to ask this. In additon to SW and SSB listening, I
really would like to have a radio that can pull in distant AM stations
if that is possible. I don't want to offend anyone, but I like radio
talk show host, Michael Savage and our city dropped him in favor of
Michael Levine. As I tune around AM with my cheapy pocket radio, I can
faintly hear Savage, so I imagine a radio that can pull in far-away AM
stations might make hearing him easier.
With that in mind, does that change anyone's recommendation? I have
figured I can afford up to about $150 or so for the radio. Again, I
would like for it to be able to be carried around in the car without
having a "dolly" to move it.
Thanks, everyone, for your continued comments/suggestions.
Haci
SWL-2010
C. Crane Radio has always been knwon for their long range AM recpetion.
Check That URL amd you'll see their product line. The one called
"CCRadio-SW" looks exactly like the Kaito/Redsun 2100, but is tagged under
the C Crane name. It should have their trademark long range AM. If I had not
already purchased my Kaito, I would have went for the C Crane. I would bet
it's a real winner all the way around. If you do check it out, or buy one,
be sure and let us know how you like it.
BTW, I dont think you will offend anyone by your taste in who or what you
listen to on the radio.
That's the whole idea isn't it?
Igor
<snip>
>
> Then I bought the S-350DL which does correct the drift problem, takes double
> A cells as well a D's has Stereo FM reception over headphones, very good
> reception, great audio and some pretty good featues for analog tuning with
> digital readout. I've been very happy with it.
> <snip>
If they've really fixed the drift problem, then I may give it another
chance. At $100, I think it's cheaper than it was originally, too.
RHF
> >Like many others, I would recommend the Kaito KA 2100 if you like the S350
> >sound. Tuning is rock stable and performance is quite surprising for the
> >price.
- The Kaito 2100 or Redsun 2100?
-
- Also, I forgot to ask this. In additon to SW and SSB listening, I
- really would like to have a radio that can pull in distant AM
stations
- if that is possible. I don't want to offend anyone, but I like radio
- talk show host, Michael Savage and our city dropped him in favor of
- Michael Levine. As I tune around AM with my cheapy pocket radio, I
can
- faintly hear Savage, so I imagine a radio that can pull in far-away
AM
- stations might make hearing him easier.
-
- With that in mind, does that change anyone's recommendation? I have
- figured I can afford up to about $150 or so for the radio. Again, I
- would like for it to be able to be carried around in the car without
- having a "dolly" to move it.
-
- Thanks, everyone, for your continued comments/suggestions.
-
- Haci
-
HdV - Ask John Plimmer about the Redsun RP2100 and
AM/MW DXing. His is an 'opinion' that you can value.
* About - John Plimmer, South Africa
http://www.dxing.info/about/dxers/plimmer.dx
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/b9d8b5f98b636230
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/817a74a3bce19fda
FWIW - The 'original' Radio was the Chinese 'Redsun'
made Redsun RP2100 Radio. Everything else is a
Re-Badged {Re-Named} CCRadio, Kaito etc : Which
are all made in the same Chinese Factory.
http://www.radiointel.com/review-redsunrp2100.htm
IMHO the Redsun RP2100 Radio is "Right Sized" and
has a very nice and functional Metal Carrying Handle.
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1134/849087320_2999e038e8_o.jpg
Point-of-Fact - Many/Most AM/MW Dxers do very well with :
AM/MW Radio + AM/MW Loop Antenna & Lazy Susan
Your AM/MW Radio plus AM/MW Loop Antenna
- Three Ways to Use Them Together
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/46fb9c2d38f1c53a
Two Popular AM/MW Loop Antennas :
Select-A-Tenna -versus- Terk AM Advantage
http://www.radiointel.com/review-2loop.htm
-written by- Jay Allen -hosted by- RadioIntel.Com
Your Am/MW Radio + Select-A-Tenna & Lazy Susan
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/f81044517569c38b
AM/MW DXing with the GE Superadio III or the Grundig S350
/ Tecsun BCL-2000 Radios -add- Redsun RP2100 Radio too
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/7d9d216f62a0a6dd
The CCRadio-SW {-aka- Redsun RP2100 and Kaito KA 2100
Radios} is an Excellent Stand-a-Lone AM/FM/SW Radio
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/68fd435f62a2dc99
Consider these AM/MW Antenna choices for better
AM Medium Wave Radio Reception
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/cd30fc6a512330be
hope this helps ~ RHF
.
Count Floyd
I bought the GE SuperRadio III at Ace Hardware for $49 dollars, and it
brings in the entire east coast and midwest at night. Not to great on
tuning dial accuracy, but you can rely on station ID's for that
information.
RHF
<CountFl...@MonsterChillerHorrorTheater.com> wrote:
* * * S N I P * * *
- I bought the GE SuperRadio III at Ace Hardware for $49
- dollars, and it brings in the entire east coast and midwest
- at night. Not to great on tuning dial accuracy, but you can
- rely on station ID's for that information.
CF,
Create your own Tuning Dial Index by Noting where
the Major Power-House Radio Stations are on the
Radio Dial and use them to 'calculate' the in-be-tweens.
USA MAP - AM/MW Radio Stations
These 'were' the AM {Medium Wave} Radio Band's
Power House Broadcasters rated at 50 KW of Power.
http://www.fortunecity.com/tinpan/bluenote/706/namrp/amradio.htm
* AM/MW Radio Stations - By Frequency
http://www.fortunecity.com/tinpan/bluenote/706/namrp/freq.htm#
* AM/MW Radio Stations - By Call Letters
http://www.fortunecity.com/tinpan/bluenote/706/namrp/call.htm#
* AM/MW Radio Stations - By City
http://www.fortunecity.com/tinpan/bluenote/706/namrp/city.htm#
* AM/MW Radio Stations - By State
http://www.fortunecity.com/tinpan/bluenote/706/namrp/state.htm#
+ Plus "INFO" {About} AM Band DXing
http://www.dxing.com/amband.htm
That-Something-Extra - AM-DX.Com -website-
AM DX => http://www.am-dx.com/
Distant AM/MW Radio Station Reception
Focus Broadcast Radio Stations on the Long Wave and
AM / Medium Wave Bands Coverage : 150 kHz to 1800 kHz
READ : AM Radio Station Info :
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/1634e3c158b06fa5
+ Radio-Locator
+ FCC
+ Where's That Station
+ AM {Medium Wave} DXing
+ Prime Time Shortwave
+ NASWA WWW Shortwave Listening Guide
- - - and A Lot More . . .
Point-of-Fact - Many/Most AM/MW Dxers do very well with :
AM/MW Radio + AM/MW Loop Antenna & Lazy Susan
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/11a6216735dfa9d3
hope this helps iane ~ RHF {pomkia}
.
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pli...@telkomsa.net
Crane SW). The SRIII is good but very hissy and the dial calibration
is so poor it is really tedious to DX the MW band with though. I did
once get WWKB Buffalo N.Y. with it barefoot, but since I got the much
better RP2100 the SRIII is now confined to the kitchen.
The RP2100 is superb for VERY long distance MW DX and is a pure joy to
own and operate. Highly recommended - very quiet on long distance
reception too.
It's also superb for DXing distant FM stations, although it's HF SW
reception is average, about the same as the Sony 7600.
John Plimmer, Montagu, Western Cape Province, South Africa
South 33 d 47 m 32 s, East 20 d 07 m 32 s
Icom IC-7700, Icom IC-756 PRO III with MW mods
Drake SW8. ERGO software
Sony 7600D, GE SRIII, Redsun RP2100
BW XCR 30, Sangean 803A.
Antenna's RF Systems DX 1 Pro Mk II, Datong AD-270
Kiwa MW Loop.
http://www.dxing.info/about/dxers/plimmer.dx
On Apr 24, 6:01 pm, "Count Floyd"
<CountFl...@MonsterChillerHorrorTheater.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 01:27:42 UTC, Hacienda de Ville
> information.- Hide quoted text -
Count Floyd
> I have both the GE SRIII and the Redsun RP2100 (Kaito KA2100 and CC
> Crane SW). The SRIII is good but very hissy and the dial calibration
> is so poor it is really tedious to DX the MW band with though. I did
> once get WWKB Buffalo N.Y. with it barefoot, but since I got the much
> better RP2100 the SRIII is now confined to the kitchen.
>
> The RP2100 is superb for VERY long distance MW DX and is a pure joy to
> own and operate. Highly recommended - very quiet on long distance
> reception too.
>
> It's also superb for DXing distant FM stations, although it's HF SW
> reception is average, about the same as the Sony 7600.
>
> John Plimmer, Montagu, Western Cape Province, South Africa
> South 33 d 47 m 32 s, East 20 d 07 m 32 s
> Icom IC-7700, Icom IC-756 PRO III with MW mods
> Drake SW8. ERGO software
> Sony 7600D, GE SRIII, Redsun RP2100
> BW XCR 30, Sangean 803A.
> Antenna's RF Systems DX 1 Pro Mk II, Datong AD-270
> Kiwa MW Loop.
> http://www.dxing.info/about/dxers/plimmer.dx
Hello John,
What is the difference in the Degen/Kaito/Redsun radio line? Are they
all the same? I saw that CCrane has a special on fixing the Super
Radio III to make it more accurate on the dial and to fix the tone
control problems, probably that "hissing" sound you mentioned. They
charge $10 for that service, wonder if it is worth it? I have found
the tuning "touchy" and I compared my old DX-440 on MW and found it to
be excellent, and with digital readout!
Bob Grimes
pli...@telkomsa.net
> What is the difference in the Degen/Kaito/Redsun radio line? Are they
> all the same? I saw that CCrane has a special on fixing the Super
> Radio III to make it more accurate on the dial and to fix the tone
> control problems, probably that "hissing" sound you mentioned. They
> charge $10 for that service, wonder if it is worth it? I have found
> the tuning "touchy" and I compared my old DX-440 on MW and found it to
> be excellent, and with digital readout!
>
Yes, they are all the same despite CC Crane's advertising hype.
As for the SRIII upgrade for $10 = sounds reasonable, but I really
can't get serious or enthusiastic about DXing the MW band and the 9/10
splits without an accurate digital readout. Get a Kaito KA2100 and
you'll be a very happy chappy indeed.
John Plimmer, Montagu, South Africa
dBc
Something to consider..
"Due to school, I don't have the time to devote to research as I would
like.."
I'll bet that you wouldn't like repeating classes. Get the school work
done first, concern yourself about the leisurely world of shortwave
listening as a much distant priority! Keep those priorities straight
and it will serve you well in the long run! Meanwhile, have some
patience, keep your eye out for and you'll probably come across a
fairly good deal on a radio in less time than you think.
Cheers,
Mr. Mentor
"Hacienda de Ville" <ferrante276-h...@yahoo.com> wrote in
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AM/FM/Shortwave/Phonograph wooden cabinet floor model radio refer to
Telefunken and not Grundig? The schematic paper does not mention Grundig
anywhere.I think the radio dates back to 1957, according to a date which
is in the owners operators booklet.Did Telefunken manufacture some of
the parts of the radio, or the whole chassis?
cuhulin
dBc
Some review of their history may be in order:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telefunken
Compare and contrast..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grundig
Cheers,
Mr. Mentor
Additional References:
http://vintagetubeservices.com/page10.html
http://w4.siemens.de/archiv/en/beteiligungen/telefunken.html
http://w4.siemens.de/archiv/en/beteiligungen/beteiligungen_hist.html
http://www.lioddities.com/Telefunken/
http://www.fundinguniverse.com/company-histories/Grundig-AG-Company-History.html
http://www.geocities.com/grundigradioboy/myhistory.htm
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