Solar Wind Getting Troublesome
dave
cosmic rays.
David Barts
Nothing new; it's been doing that for billions of years already.
In related news, eventually the Sun is going to turn into a red giant
and engulf the Earth, thus utterly destroying it.
--
David Barts
Portland, OR
dave
and we don't know what will happen. This is uncharted territory.
David Barts
There is nothing I see on that linked page to back up that assertion.
Moreover, how exactly are we "entering a part of the galaxy that is
relatively dense"? We're on one of the rotating spiral arms of the
Milky way. We're moving at pretty much the same speed as the rest of
the arm. It's very hard to "enter" a part of the galaxy we're pacing
at the same speed.
Absent any links that actually back up what you're trying to assert, I
find your assertions to be highly questionable.
dave
>
> Moreover, how exactly are we "entering a part of the galaxy that is
> relatively dense"? We're on one of the rotating spiral arms of the
> Milky way. We're moving at pretty much the same speed as the rest of
> the arm. It's very hard to "enter" a part of the galaxy we're pacing
> at the same speed.
>
> Absent any links that actually back up what you're trying to assert, I
> find your assertions to be highly questionable.
>
> --
> David Barts
> Portland, OR
More to come
The solar system is always plowing through interstellar material. The
Sun's giant magnetic field thwarts much of the dust from entering the
solar system. But the magnetic field weakens periodically, on a cycle
that lasts roughly 22-years. The cycle is related to an 11-year cycle of
sunspot activity.
This is the first of the related dust storms that has been seriously
monitored by a spacecraft.
Some day, the influx could get worse. The solar system is plowing toward
the fringes of a galactic cloud known as the G-cloud.
"The time of the entry into the G-cloud is unknown, but is expected to
occur any time in the next 10,000 years," Landgraf said. "There will be
a constant increase [in dust rates], because the G-cloud is more dense
than the local interstellar cloud that is now surrounding our Sun."
http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/dust_storm_030814.html
David Barts
> The solar system is always plowing through interstellar material. The
> Sun's giant magnetic field thwarts much of the dust from entering the
> solar system. But the magnetic field weakens periodically, on a cycle
> that lasts roughly 22-years. The cycle is related to an 11-year cycle of
> sunspot activity.
These are two distinct phenomena. The solar wind is not the same thing
as an intrastellar dust cloud. There was nothing in the link you
furnished that indicated the increased amount of intrastellar dust
would accelerate the rate of atmospheric depletion (which is such a
minute fraction of the atmosphere per year that it's of no immediate
threat).
And did you notice the statement in that article that no serious
consequences are expected from passing through that dust cloud? There
*might* be a slight increase in the number of visible meteors
("shooting stars") at night, that's about all they anticipate.
Hardly a doomsday scenario. In fact, seeing more shooting stars at
night sounds like a plus.
dave
> On Nov 15, 11:31 am, dave<d...@dave.dave> wrote:
>
>> The solar system is always plowing through interstellar material. The
>> Sun's giant magnetic field thwarts much of the dust from entering the
>> solar system. But the magnetic field weakens periodically, on a cycle
>> that lasts roughly 22-years. The cycle is related to an 11-year cycle of
>> sunspot activity.
>
> These are two distinct phenomena. The solar wind is not the same thing
> as an intrastellar dust cloud. There was nothing in the link you
> furnished that indicated the increased amount of intrastellar dust
> would accelerate the rate of atmospheric depletion (which is such a
> minute fraction of the atmosphere per year that it's of no immediate
> threat).
>
I said no such thing. I said the atmosphere would have reduced ability
to protect us from cosmic rays.
David Barts
> David Barts wrote:
> > On Nov 15, 11:31 am, dave<d...@dave.dave> wrote:
>
> >> The solar system is always plowing through interstellar material. The
> >> Sun's giant magnetic field thwarts much of the dust from entering the
> >> solar system. But the magnetic field weakens periodically, on a cycle
> >> that lasts roughly 22-years. The cycle is related to an 11-year cycle of
> >> sunspot activity.
>
> > These are two distinct phenomena. The solar wind is not the same thing
> > as an intrastellar dust cloud. There was nothing in the link you
> > furnished that indicated the increased amount of intrastellar dust
> > would accelerate the rate of atmospheric depletion (which is such a
> > minute fraction of the atmosphere per year that it's of no immediate
> > threat).
>
> I said no such thing.
Actually, you did. You said it was "getting troublesome" and that it
"washes away parts of the atmosphere". If part of the atmosphere is
getting "washed away", that's depletion.
> I said the atmosphere would have reduced ability
> to protect us from cosmic rays.
Well, did you say the atmosphere was being "washed away", or didn't
you? Make up your mind.
Yet another link that contains nothing immediately relevant to what
you are claiming.
dave
>
> Yet another link that contains nothing immediately relevant to what
> you are claiming.
>
> --
> David Barts
> Portland, OR
Bye donkeydicks
John Harbl
Your spelling is atrocious, and everyone knows that horsecock is the
smart investment right now anyway. So there.
- J.
m II
>> Bye donkeydicks
>
> Your spelling is atrocious, and everyone knows that horsecock is the
> smart investment right now anyway. So there.
Not when it's a Bullish market.
mike
cuh...@webtv.net
http://www.stevequayle.com/index1.html
http://bigwobble.blogspot.com
cuhulin
RHF
> On 10-11-16 11:28 AM, John Harbl wrote:
>
> >> Bye donkeydicks
>
> > Your spelling is atrocious, and everyone knows that horsecock is the
> > smart investment right now anyway. So there.
>
-
- mike
? Bull Dong !
RHF
> > On Nov 14, 6:49 pm, dave<d...@dave.dave> wrote:
> >> It washes away parts of the upper atmosphere leaving us exposed to more
> >> cosmic rays.
>
> >>http://www.hamqsl.com/solar3.html#addwebsite
>
> > Nothing new; it's been doing that for billions of years already.
>
> > In related news, eventually the Sun is going to turn into a red giant
> > and engulf the Earth, thus utterly destroying it.
- Wrong!
- We are entering a part of the galaxy
- that is relatively dense and we don't
- know what will happen.
- This is uncharted territory.
Dave on a Galactic Scale of Time : Let Us All
Know What Happens in a Million Years . . .
-if- you are still around ~ RHF
??? anyone thinking global warming hysteria ???
.
RHF
'Special Dave'
"The Sun's giant magnetic field thwarts much
of the dust from entering the solar system."
Gee I thought that the Suns great Gravitational
'attaction' attracted all matter ???
Same goes for the Earth and all the Planets
around the Sun.
repulsively yours ~ RHF
.
Steve
I'm off to Burlington Coat factory to pick up a Solar Wind Breaker.
RHF
> On Nov 14, 9:49 pm, dave <d...@dave.dave> wrote:
>
> > It washes away parts of the upper atmosphere leaving us exposed to more
> > cosmic rays.
>
> >http://www.hamqsl.com/solar3.html#addwebsite
- I'm off to Burlington Coat factory
- to pick up a Solar Wind Breaker.
-rotfl-
Breaker Breaker Ch 19
Anyone out-there smelling what I smelling . . .
OK - Who Done Passed Some 'Solar Wind' ?
One Nation Under Siege !
http://www.undersiegemovie.com/
Their Mission Is Simple . . .
http://www.undersiegemovie.com/
Defect The New World Order !
.
.
John Harbl
But it's all about what the market will bear.
*rimshot*
- J.
David Barts
> ??? anyone thinking global warming hysteria ???
Unlike Dave's hyperventilations, there's actually evidence for
anthropogenic global warming.
Unfortunately, the same political crowd that tends to have difficulty
with scientific evidence undermining the creation myth in the Book of
Genesis tends to also have difficulty with the evidence for AGW.
RHF
wrote:
- - On Nov 16, 7:28 pm, RHF <rhf-newsgro...@pacbell.net> wrote:
- - ??? anyone thinking global warming hysteria ???
- Unlike Dave's hyperventilations,
- there's actually evidence for anthropogenic global warming.
-
- Unfortunately, the same political crowd that tends to
- have difficulty with scientific evidence undermining
- the creation myth in the Book of Genesis tends to
- also have difficulty with the evidence for AGW.
-
- --
- David Barts
- Portland, OR
David Barts - "anthropogenic global warming"
David Barts - "creation myth"
David Barts,
So... You Believe In The 'Global Warming' Myth
-and- The Darwin "Human Evolution" Myth
myth-on,,, Myth-On... MYTH-ON ! ! !
keep the 'faith' oh true-believe ~ RHF
David Barts ?anthropogenic?
Was this 'Anthropogenic' Math done with the
Doctored-Up {Bogus} DATA from the very same
Bought-and-Paid-for British CRU and other
"Global Warming Expert" $cienti$t$ ? ? ?
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/100017393/climategate-the-final-nail-in-the-coffin-of-anthropogenic-global-warming/
More Climate-Gate© Info the Un-Deniable Truth !
http://www.climategate.com/
http://johnrlott.blogspot.com/2009/11/climate-gate-gets-worse.html
http://www.investors.com/newsandanalysis/article.aspx?id=513542
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climatic_Research_Unit_email_controversy
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/12/04/AR2009120404511.html
.
Clearly There Is Room For Reasonable Doubt...
-for- Those Who Would Think To Reason
-versus- Believing "In The Name of Science" On Faith
.
Thinking of Pseudo-Science and the 'Global Warming'
to "Climate Change" to "Global Climate Disruption"
-Re-Branding- by the Obama White House
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/30a0228a43629c84
"ClimateGate" = 'WaterGate' {Corruption & Evil}
-translation- Prez Nixon = Prez Obama {Corruption & Evil}
-translation- Nixon Regime = Obama Regime {Corruption & Evil}
.
"The Protocols of the Elders of Kyoto"©
-wrt- Global Warming & Climate Change
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/3b46be692232dd71
.
The Great Mother Earth Is Having Hot-and-Cold Flashes
{Going Through Planetary Menopause}
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/047a9a4299829591
Clearly there is Naturally Evolving 'Climate Change'
but all Mankind {Humanity} Can Do Is Adapt To It
and Hope to Survive the next 100~10K~1M Years
. . . imho ~ RHF
.
Say "YES" to an American CO2 Enrichment Tax
{Re-Greening American & Investing in the USA}
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/03fd866eb3599b1b
.
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RHF
Botta Bear Botta Bong !
Bada Bear Bada Bong !
David Barts
> On Nov 17, 12:34 pm, David Barts <ebaysucksdonkeydi...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> - - On Nov 16, 7:28 pm, RHF <rhf-newsgro...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> - - ??? anyone thinking global warming hysteria ???
>
> - Unlike Dave's hyperventilations,
> - there's actually evidence for anthropogenic global warming.
> -
> - Unfortunately, the same political crowd that tends to
> - have difficulty with scientific evidence undermining
> - the creation myth in the Book of Genesis tends to
> - also have difficulty with the evidence for AGW.
> -
> - --
> - David Barts
> - Portland, OR
>
> David Barts - "anthropogenic global warming"
>
> David Barts - "creation myth"
>
> David Barts,
> So... You Believe In The 'Global Warming' Myth
> -and- The Darwin "Human Evolution" Myth
> myth-on,,, Myth-On... MYTH-ON ! ! !
Science, not myth.
> keep the 'faith' oh true-believe ~ RHF
>
> David Barts ?anthropogenic?
Crack open a dictionary; it might do you good.
>
> Was this 'Anthropogenic' Math done with the
> Doctored-Up {Bogus} DATA from the very same
> Bought-and-Paid-for British CRU and other
> [links to debunked lies snipped]
>
> Clearly There Is Room For Reasonable Doubt...
> -for- Those Who Would Think To Reason
> -versus- Believing "In The Name of Science" On Faith
Only to right-wing idiots and other assorted loonies. Communism had
its Lysenkoists; modern-day conservatism has its global-warming
deniers.
RHF
- - Clearly There Is Room For Reasonable Doubt...
- - -for- Those Who Would Think To Reason
- - -versus- Believing "In The Name of Science" On Faith
- Only to right-wing idiots and other assorted loonies.
- Communism had its Lysenkoists; modern-day
- conservatism has its global-warming deniers.
David Barts - "right-wing idiots"
David Barts - "assorted loonies"
.
- - - = = = RHF's Canned Reply 'Rant' = = = - - -
[>: To Liberal-Fascist {Democrat} Name Calling :<]
ROTFL - You Know When You Are Winning An Argument :
When An Ever So Super-Smart "Enlightened" Liberal
Democrat Socialist Starts Fascist Name Calling*.
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/318979fbe8546cfa
* They Lose Their Ability To Think And Get Emotional
+ Plus They Often Snip/Delete What You Wrote :
To Disguise Their Complete Inability To Carry The
Argument Forward. -that-is-how-i-see-it- ~ RHF©
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-
- --
- David Barts
- Portland, OR
David Barts your post is very 'anthropogenic'
-fwiw- "anthropogenic global warming" is
often abbreviated 'AGW'
'Lysenkoism' describes the whole attempt to
Manufacture the Data in Support of the 'claims'
of Anthropogenic Global Warming.
Skeptics-R-Us : Solar Wind Getting Troublesome
-wrt- Climate Change -aka- Global Warming
-oops- Climate-Gate
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/a95191cf3db48743
.
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David Barts
> - - - = = = RHF's Canned Reply 'Rant' = = = - - -
> [>: To Liberal-Fascist {Democrat} Name Calling :<]
> ROTFL - You Know When You Are Winning An Argument :
> When An Ever So Super-Smart "Enlightened" Liberal
> * They Lose Their Ability To Think And Get Emotional
> + Plus They Often Snip/Delete What You Wrote :
> To Disguise Their Complete Inability To Carry The
> Argument Forward. -that-is-how-i-see-it- ~ RHF©
That's truly rich, considering your posting history. But, I suppose
you can come up with a good reason why it's OK for you to call names
and not for anyone else. It's the right-wing motto for just about
everything: "it's OK for me to do it to other people but it's evil and
unjust when others do it to me."
And the Climategate stuff *has* been debunked:
UK Parliament concluded it had no bearing on the factual nature of
those scientists' conclusions:
http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200910/cmselect/cmsctech/387/38708.htm
Independent inquiry commissioned by the Univ. of East Anglia concluded
the same thing:
http://www.uea.ac.uk/mac/comm/media/press/CRUstatements/Report%20of%20the%20Science%20Assessment%20Panel
Factcheck.org concurs:
http://www.factcheck.org/2009/12/climategate/
RHF
wrote:
> On Nov 18, 9:35 am, RHF <rhf-newsgro...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>
> > - - - = = = RHF's Canned Reply 'Rant' = = = - - -
> > [>: To Liberal-Fascist {Democrat} Name Calling :<]
> > ROTFL - You Know When You Are Winning An Argument :
> > When An Ever So Super-Smart "Enlightened" Liberal
> > Democrat Socialist Starts Fascist Name Calling*.http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/318979fbe8546cfa
> > * They Lose Their Ability To Think And Get Emotional
> > + Plus They Often Snip/Delete What You Wrote :
> > To Disguise Their Complete Inability To Carry The
> > Argument Forward. -that-is-how-i-see-it- ~ RHF©
>
> That's truly rich, considering your posting history. But, I suppose
> you can come up with a good reason why it's OK for you to call names
> and not for anyone else. It's the right-wing motto for just about
> everything: "it's OK for me to do it to other people but it's evil and
> unjust when others do it to me."
>
> And the Climategate stuff *has* been debunked:
>
> UK Parliament concluded it had no bearing on the factual nature of
>
> Independent inquiry commissioned by the Univ. of East Anglia concluded
>
> Factcheck.org concurs:http://www.factcheck.org/2009/12/climategate/
>
> --
> David Barts
> Portland, OR
David Barts,
You are still buying it to the Global Warming
Manufactured Data and the Big Lie ~ RHF
Even Prez Obama has ordered the Obama White
House to NOT use the 'tainted' brand name
"Global Warming" and to start using the new
brand name "Climate Change Disruption "
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/09/16/white-house-global-warming-global-climate-disruption/
disruptively yours ~ RHF
.
Skeptics-R-Us : Solar Wind Getting Troublesome
-wrt- Climate Change -aka- Global Warming
-oops- Climate-Gate
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/6482fdf32df41e2a
.
.
David Barts
>
> disruptively yours ~ RHF
> .
> Skeptics-R-Us : Solar Wind Getting Troublesome
> -wrt- Climate Change -aka- Global Warming
> -oops- Climate-Gatehttp://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/6482fdf32df41e2a
Yes, yes -- I know: Mendelian genetics is anti-Soviet and anyone who
doesn't see the truth of what Lysenko proclai -- oops, wrong decade,
wrong movement picking a bone with science.
RHF
David Barts,
When you Manufacture Data* IT AIN'T SCIENCE [.]
* WRT so-called Global Warning being caused
by Mankind and Industialization and the Burning
of Carbon Fuels.
Now clearly there can be Disruptive "Climate Change"
in the near term future of a Millennium or ten . . .
And this "Climate Change" will have an adverse
impact on Mankind's ability to Exist on the Earth.
Just like the Dinosaurs became Extinct through
no fault of their own : Mankind may become
Extinct as a result of Natural Climate Change
Through NO Fault of Mankind [.]
Even Prez Obama has ordered the Obama White
House to NOT use the 'tainted' brand name
"Global Warming" and to start using the new
brand name "Climate Change Disruption "
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/09/16/white-house-global-warming...
with one foot in the graveyard of
. . . mass extinction ~ RHF
.
Skeptics-R-Us : Solar Wind Getting Troublesome
-wrt- Climate Change -aka- Global Warming