Turntables and computers
wayne....@gmail.com
computer and get some music onto the computer from vinyl records?
Thanks for any ideas or help.
Wayne
Trevor Wilson
<wayne....@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:66692aba-99f0-47a7...@y20g2000hsy.googlegroups.com...
> Does anybody have any idea how I can connect a turntable to my
> computer and get some music onto the computer from vinyl records?
**If your turntable doesn't have a phono preamp built in (some modern ones
do, some don't), then connect the TT to an amplifier, which has a phono
preamp (some do, some don't). Then connect the tape out to your computer
sound card and you're away.
Trevor Wilson
Bill Riel
trevor@_SPAMBLOCK_rageaudio.com.au says...
To add to that - if you are using a notebook for capture, you probably
will need to get another sound card (there are several affordable USB
devices that work well). Very few notebook sound cards have a line-in:
most only have a microphone jack which is mono only.
Generally this is not a problem with desktop computer sound cards.
--
Bill
Jenn
Bill Riel <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
> In article <5r8pptF...@mid.individual.net>,
> trevor@_SPAMBLOCK_rageaudio.com.au says...
> >
> > <wayne....@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:66692aba-99f0-47a7...@y20g2000hsy.googlegroups.com...
> > > Does anybody have any idea how I can connect a turntable to my
> > > computer and get some music onto the computer from vinyl records?
> >
> > **If your turntable doesn't have a phono preamp built in (some modern ones
> > do, some don't), then connect the TT to an amplifier, which has a phono
> > preamp (some do, some don't). Then connect the tape out to your computer
> > sound card and you're away.
>
> To add to that - if you are using a notebook for capture, you probably
> will need to get another sound card (there are several affordable USB
> devices that work well). Very few notebook sound cards have a line-in:
Macs do <eg>
_ george @comcast.net George M. Middius
Jenn said:
> > Very few notebook sound cards have a line-in:
> Macs do <eg>
Thnak's Jennn for, admiotong Jennnn that your clueless-about the
modern-corperate world Jnne.
Jenn
Bill Riel
> > To add to that - if you are using a notebook for capture, you probably
> > will need to get another sound card (there are several affordable USB
> > devices that work well). Very few notebook sound cards have a line-in:
Jenn replied with:
>
> Macs do <eg>
Yes they do - my wife has a Mac Book that is a very nice machine. I do
like Macs quite a bit (I'm typing this on an old iMac that we've had for
years) but most of my professional life requires the use of Windows.
I haven't used the Mac for any audio capture, but I have used a Toshiba
notebook to record some vinyl. For that, I have to use a USB audio
device because the sound card only accepts a mono input.
But it works well, and I've got some pretty simple software on the
Toshiba that I like for doing the capture/CD burning and possible
cleanup of the captured files, though I often find I don't clean them
much.
--
Bill
Arny Krueger
news:me-CD989F.16...@news.telus.net
> I wrote:
>
>>> To add to that - if you are using a notebook for
>>> capture, you probably will need to get another sound
>>> card (there are several affordable USB devices that
>>> work well). Very few notebook sound cards have a
>>> line-in:
>
> Jenn replied with:
>>
>> Macs do <eg>
>
> Yes they do - my wife has a Mac Book that is a very nice
> machine. I do like Macs quite a bit (I'm typing this on
> an old iMac that we've had for years) but most of my
> professional life requires the use of Windows.
My daughter has a Mac Notebook. It cost her about 3 times what a similar
Windows laptop would have cost her. She paid $100s more for a MacIntosh
extended warranty. When she had a problem with it, she had to send the whole
notebook out of town to be checked out. The repair facility said - hey
there's a tiny dent in corner of the case, the machine is therefore abused
and we won't honor the warranty.
I don't think she's buying another Mac real soon!
> I haven't used the Mac for any audio capture, but I have
> used a Toshiba notebook to record some vinyl. For that, I
> have to use a USB audio device because the sound card
> only accepts a mono input.
Not only does the laptop input only accept mono, it also has too much gain
because it is a microphone input.
The good news is that USB audio devices that equal or better any laptops
line input are readily available and relatively inexpensive. One to avoid
is called the iMic. One to look for is the Behringer UCA 202.
http://www.samedaymusic.com/product--BEHUCA202
Probably on the shelf at your local Guitar Center.
Jenn
"Arny Krueger" <ar...@hotpop.com> wrote:
> "Bill Riel" <m...@privacy.net> wrote in message
> news:me-CD989F.16...@news.telus.net
> > I wrote:
> >
> >>> To add to that - if you are using a notebook for
> >>> capture, you probably will need to get another sound
> >>> card (there are several affordable USB devices that
> >>> work well). Very few notebook sound cards have a
> >>> line-in:
> >
> > Jenn replied with:
> >>
> >> Macs do <eg>
> >
> > Yes they do - my wife has a Mac Book that is a very nice
> > machine. I do like Macs quite a bit (I'm typing this on
> > an old iMac that we've had for years) but most of my
> > professional life requires the use of Windows.
>
> My daughter has a Mac Notebook. It cost her about 3 times what a similar
> Windows laptop would have cost her. She paid $100s more for a MacIntosh
> extended warranty. When she had a problem with it, she had to send the whole
> notebook out of town to be checked out. The repair facility said - hey
> there's a tiny dent in corner of the case, the machine is therefore abused
> and we won't honor the warranty.
>
> I don't think she's buying another Mac real soon!
Well, that settles that!
Arny Krueger
message
news:jennconductsREMOVETHIS...@newsclstr03.news.prodigy.net
Gee Jen, you're getting your role as the female Art Sack-o-crapman down so
well. Will the Middiot promote you to be his arch-idiot, and fuliminate
along with with him?
Clyde Slick
> "Jenn" <jennconductsREMOVET...@hotmail.com> wrote in
>
> > Well, that settles that!
>
> Gee Jen, you're getting your role as the female Art Sack-o-crapman down so
> well. Will the Middiot promote you to be his arch-idiot, and fuliminate
> along with with him?
"Well, that settles that!"
very toxic words those are, "At least" as
toxic as "been there, done that" or
"pot, meet kettle"
so, I'll tone down the rhetoric a bit and
just say that your toilet needs a good
scrubbing.
_ george @comcast.net George M. Middius
It's Krooglish time!
> fuliminate
fuliminate (v.i.): to defecate; to evacuate; (coll.) to shop for dinner
[etym: cf /feces/ and /eliminate/]
Too bad you messed up that reference to Stereophile, Arnii. You almost
had a perfect "debating trade" month notched. ;-)
Jenn
"Arny Krueger" <ar...@hotpop.com> wrote:
Well Army, the advanced reader will discern that I'm mocking your
attempt to turn a specific into a general.
Marty Troum
Try this
http://www.adstech.com/products/RDX-150/intro/RDX-150_intro1.asp?pid=RDX-150
I've converted a large portion of my record collection using this
device.
Marty T.
_ george @comcast.net George M. Middius
Jenn said:
> > fuliminate
> Well Army, the advanced reader will discern that I'm mocking your
> attempt to turn a specific into a general.
"Mocking" does not compute. Please rephrase using known vocabulary
units. My Handy-Dandy Port-a-Kroo Translation Device™ suggests the
following vocab units as replacements:
measuring
quantifying
debating
fuliminating
Thank you in advance for pre-digesting your complex human-type thoughts
into 'borg-accessible pablum.
Bill Riel
ar...@hotpop.com says...
> My daughter has a Mac Notebook. It cost her about 3 times what a similar
> Windows laptop would have cost her. She paid $100s more for a MacIntosh
> extended warranty. When she had a problem with it, she had to send the whole
> notebook out of town to be checked out. The repair facility said - hey
> there's a tiny dent in corner of the case, the machine is therefore abused
> and we won't honor the warranty.
Very sorry to hear that - our experience over the years has been quite a
bit more positive with Apple products. Certainly they've been easily as
reliable as any of the other PC products I've owned, and usually have
been better built.
Though in all honesty I haven't had any warranty work done in a very
long time. Oh, wait, that's not entirely true. There was some issue with
my wife's Macbook that was a warranty item, but I think it was more of a
recall to replace something.
It was handled locally, quickly and quite professionally.
> I don't think she's buying another Mac real soon!
I don't blame her at all if that was her experience.
--
Bill
Bill Riel
mtr...@comcast.net says...
> Try this
> http://www.adstech.com/products/RDX-150/intro/RDX-150_intro1.asp?pid=RDX-150
> I've converted a large portion of my record collection using this
> device.
What a coincidence: that's the same device that I use for capture. It
works well, and is quite cheap. I didn't care very much for the capture
software it came with though (I think it's Nero), but there are lots of
choices there.
--
Bill
Arny Krueger
The even more advanced reader will discern that is what all the Middiot's
posse do.
John Stone
gPadnRpW1vWd49La...@comcast.com, "Arny Krueger"
<ar...@hotpop.com> wrote:
> Not only does the laptop input only accept mono, it also has too much gain
> because it is a microphone input.
I've got a MacBook Pro and the input is either stereo line level or optical.
wayne....@gmail.com
>
> <ar...@hotpop.com> wrote:
> > Not only does the laptop input only accept mono, it also has too much gain
> > because it is a microphone input.
>
> I've got a MacBook Pro and the input is either stereo line level or optical.
Ok, now I'm just getting confused. Do I go with Instant Music, iMic,
or one of the other devices that's been talked about here?
Wayne
Bill Riel
a8d3c5...@b40g2000prf.googlegroups.com>, wayne....@gmail.com
says...
> Ok, now I'm just getting confused. Do I go with Instant Music, iMic,
> or one of the other devices that's been talked about here?
I don't know what hardware you've got - if you would be so kind as to
list what computer you were planning on using, whether or not you've got
a turntable and so on it would be much easier to give advice.
--
Bill
wayne....@gmail.com
> In article <b16337ee-ef63-4ca8-a7a7-
> a8d3c5989...@b40g2000prf.googlegroups.com>, wayne.delo...@gmail.com
> says...
>
> > Ok, now I'm just getting confused. Do I go with Instant Music, iMic,
> > or one of the other devices that's been talked about here?
>
> I don't know what hardware you've got - if you would be so kind as to
> list what computer you were planning on using, whether or not you've got
> a turntable and so on it would be much easier to give advice.
>
> --
> Bill
Ok. I have a Dell PC and a tecnics turntable.
Bill Riel
@s8g2000prg.googlegroups.com>, wayne....@gmail.com says...
> Ok. I have a Dell PC and a tecnics turntable.
Sounds good - do you have a receiver with a phono input? If so, you
shouldn't need any additional hardware (other than appropriate cabling).
You should be able to play your records on the turntable and run a cable
from your tape out into the sound card on your Dell.
You may want to get some software that helps with the capture/cleanup of
the records. There are a number of options out there, some of them free.
One shareware product that is pretty easy to use is called Spin It
Again:
<http://www.acoustica.com/spinitagain/>
It's not the most spophisticated software available for this purpose,
but it's very easy and the simplicity appeals to me.
Good luck!
--
Bill
wayne....@gmail.com
> In article <3396116f-257b-40a7-819b-9e5732c5fa80
>
> > Ok. I have a Dell PC and a tecnics turntable.
>
> Sounds good - do you have a receiver with a phono input? If so, you
> shouldn't need any additional hardware (other than appropriate cabling).
> You should be able to play your records on the turntable and run a cable
> from your tape out into the sound card on your Dell.
>
> You may want to get some software that helps with the capture/cleanup of
> the records. There are a number of options out there, some of them free.
>
> One shareware product that is pretty easy to use is called Spin It
> Again:
> <http://www.acoustica.com/spinitagain/>
>
> It's not the most spophisticated software available for this purpose,
> but it's very easy and the simplicity appeals to me.
>
> Good luck!
>
> --
> Bill
You are very helpful! Yes, I do have a receiver with a phono input.
that's what it's connected to now. So, I need to cable from the back
of the receiver to the computer. Into the microphone jack? But I
will have to have software to capture the songs, right? I'm such a
novice at this.
Bill Riel
@y5g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>, wayne....@gmail.com says...
> You are very helpful! Yes, I do have a receiver with a phono input.
> that's what it's connected to now. So, I need to cable from the back
> of the receiver to the computer. Into the microphone jack?
No - you should plug it into the line input on the sound card, not the
microphone jack.
> But I
> will have to have software to capture the songs, right? I'm such a
> novice at this.
I think you might be a good candidate for the software that I mentioned
above: http://www.acoustica.com/spinitagain/
The software has detailed instructions on hooking things up to your
computer and how to proceed with the recording. You can use the software
on a trial basis for 3 albums, after which you the software will cease
to work unless you buy it.
However, give it a try - I think you'll find that going through a couple
of albums will help you understand the process, after which you can
either buy the software or move on to something else.
The only thing that this software doesn't get quite right for me is the
song breaks on the albums. It's easy to go through after you've recorded
and set them correctly though, but it took me a couple of tries to
realize what was going on and to fix it.
--
Bill
wayne....@gmail.com
> In article <1bd9776b-463f-4a57-81d7-ed50025e5a35
Thank you very much! I will give all this a try and see what happens.
Wayne
Harry Lavo
"Arny Krueger" <ar...@hotpop.com> wrote in message
news:RdSdnTsmC_dRo83a...@comcast.com...
However, those who know something about logic recognize logical error when
they see it Arny:
* Jenn mocked you
* George always mocks you
therefore
* Jenn and George are partners
Back to your workbench, Arny.
Arny Krueger
news:acadnZo8_NcUQM3a...@comcast.com
Wrong. They are closer than that.
It looks like the JGH thing really has ticked off the monster ego that
animates the Middiot.
MiNe 109
"Arny Krueger" <ar...@hotpop.com> wrote:
> It looks like the JGH thing really has ticked off the monster ego that
> animates the Middiot.
It's not the ego you should worry about, it's the monsters from the id.
Stephen
_ george @comcast.net George M. Middius
MiNe 109 said to The Big Shit:
> It's not the ego you should worry about, it's the monsters from the id.
Arnii's id was amputated during his affeciation process. The Beast as we
know him today relies heavily on his <ahem> superego.
Jenn
"Arny Krueger" <ar...@hotpop.com> wrote:
Wow. Who knew?
Too much eggnog, Arny. (or not enough)
ScottW
What you don't really see is that you have become
Arny's anime.
RAO is Rec.Arny.Opinion
Arny is insane, Arny is a hypocrite, Arny is this, Arny is that.
Without Arny pulling your string you got nothing.
I don't bother with this cesspool for a few weeks and in catching up
what do I find?
Aside from a classical music post and another know nothings
quest for guidance....RAO is all about Arny.
He wants it that way and you let him have it.
Who is the bigger fool?
The fool or those played by a fool.
ScottW
Jenn
"ScottW" <Scot...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> "Jenn" <jennconduct...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:jennconductsREMOVETHIS...@newsclstr03.news.prodigy.net
So I take it that you're done with Shhhh then?
_ george @comcast.net George M. Middius
And now for something completely idiotic.
> Without Arny pulling your string you got nothing.
Scooter, every time you rev your "motor", you generate a surprise. Keep
up the weird work.
ScottW
"Jenn" <jennconduct...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:jennconductsREMOVETHIS...@newsclstr03.news.prodigy.net...
>> >> >
>> >> > * Jenn and George are partners
>> >>
>> >> Wrong. They are closer than that.
>> >
>> > Wow. Who knew?
>> >
>> > Too much eggnog, Arny. (or not enough)
>>
>> What you don't really see is that you have become
>> Arny's anime.
>> RAO is Rec.Arny.Opinion
>> Arny is insane, Arny is a hypocrite, Arny is this, Arny is that.
>> Without Arny pulling your string you got nothing.
>> I don't bother with this cesspool for a few weeks and in catching up
>> what do I find?
>> Aside from a classical music post and another know nothings
>> quest for guidance....RAO is all about Arny.
>> He wants it that way and you let him have it.
>> Who is the bigger fool?
>> The fool or those played by a fool.
>>
>> ScottW
>
> So I take it that you're done with Shhhh then?
You're so clueless. Ssshhhh is an ass, but he doesn't
suffer the same illness you feed in Arny.
ScottW
ScottW
"George M. Middius" <cmndr _ george @ comcast . net> wrote in message
news:c4g3l3hsat06uv8ls...@4ax.com...
>
>
> And now for something completely idiotic.
That's true. Arny's pawns are complete idiots.
ScottW
Arny Krueger
news:fqk4j.6287$6r6....@newsfe23.lga
I vacillate between thinking they are idiots and thinking that they are so
arrogant that they think what they do does anything but make them look
completely stupid.
Mostly I don't think about them at all - I just throw them a little meat so
that they can keep on humiliating themselves. It seems to be what they want
to do.
Jenn
"ScottW" <Scot...@hotmail.com> wrote:
How has Shhh's posting rate changed since you've been away?
Please, teach us more "lessons"...
Jenn
"Arny Krueger" <ar...@hotpop.com> wrote:
THey are probably just trying to keep your career going.
ScottW
No us...just you. George, Art, Stephen all know what Arny is.
They just don't care. It's all fun and games to them.
You seem to be uniquely clueless.
Anyway, I'm sure Ssssshhhh will find it quite amusing that you
don't see the difference between him and Arny.
ScottW
_ george @comcast.net George M. Middius
The Idiot yapped:
> No us...just you. George, Art, Stephen all know what Arny is.
We also know what you are.
> It's all fun and games to them.
Speaking for myself, if I had some anti-Scottie disinfectant, I'd use
it.
ScottW
"George M. Middius" <cmndr _ george @ comcast . net> wrote in message
>
>
> The Idiot yapped:
>
>> No us...just you. George, Art, Stephen all know what Arny is.
>
> We also know what you are.
Thanks for admitting the truth of my words.
>
>> It's all fun and games to them.
>
> Speaking for myself, if I had some anti-Scottie disinfectant, I'd use
> it.
Sure...but if you had some anti-Arny spray...you wouldn't use it.
You need him to play your favorite game.
ScottW
Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!
> Mostly I don't think about them at all - I just throw them a little meat so
> that they can keep on humiliating themselves. It seems to be what they want
> to do.
IOW, you're nothing more than an insane troll.
It's nice to see you admit that you don't believe what you post.
Who said the insane could not make progress? Neither do any of the
sane!
Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!
> Anyway, I'm sure Ssssshhhh will find it quite amusing that you
> don't see the difference between him and Arny.
Actually, I'm just gobstoppered that you entirely missed Jenn's point.
What a surprise.
_ george @comcast.net George M. Middius
IKYABWAIBorg Jr. whined:
> > The Idiot yapped:
> >> No us...just you. George, Art, Stephen all know what Arny is.
> > We also know what you are.
> Thanks for admitting the truth of my words.
Sorry to disappoint, but I have no idea what the point of your rant was
supposed to be. Assuming you had a point, that is.
As far as knowing what the Krooborg is, do you actually believe any of
us was trying to hide that knowledge? You were the last RAO regular to
"admit" Krooger is crazy, so logically, it's you who should "admit" to
the truth of your own screed.
> >> It's all fun and games to them.
> > Speaking for myself, if I had some anti-Scottie disinfectant, I'd use it.
> Sure...but if you had some anti-Arny spray...you wouldn't use it.
There you go again, arguing with yourself inside your own head. I think
maybe your "motor" is revving too fast. You should have your interior
world checked for excessive carbon monoxide.
> You need him to play your favorite game.
Speaking of unintelligible babbling, have you learned to say "duh!" in
espanol?
ScottW
"Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" <arty...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:c08b93a8-a93f-425e...@e23g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
Something besides you and Arny are alike?
Oh well.
ScottW
Arny Krueger
message
news:jennconductsREMOVETHIS...@newsclstr03.news.prodigy.net
You do Sackman so well Jenn. How long have you been studying for this?
Clyde Slick
> "Jenn" <jennconductsREMOVET...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:jennconductsREMOVETHIS...@newsclstr03.news.prodigy.net...
>
>
>
> > In article <U8j4j.11532$KK1.6...@newsfe24.lga>,
>
> >> >> > * Jenn and George are partners
>
> >> >> Wrong. They are closer than that.
>
> >> > Wow. Who knew?
>
> >> > Too much eggnog, Arny. (or not enough)
>
> >> What you don't really see is that you have become
> >> Arny's anime.
> >> RAO is Rec.Arny.Opinion
> >> Arny is insane, Arny is a hypocrite, Arny is this, Arny is that.
> >> Without Arny pulling your string you got nothing.
> >> I don't bother with this cesspool for a few weeks and in catching up
> >> what do I find?
> >> Aside from a classical music post and another know nothings
> >> quest for guidance....RAO is all about Arny.
> >> He wants it that way and you let him have it.
> >> Who is the bigger fool?
> >> The fool or those played by a fool.
>
> >> ScottW
>
> > So I take it that you're done with Shhhh then?
>
> You're so clueless. Ssshhhh is an ass, but he doesn't
> suffer the same illness you feed in Arny.
>
arny requires no feeding from us, he eats
don't blame the rest of us for the arny phenomenum.
we are as little to blame for arny as you are for feeding shhh..
Clyde Slick
> "ScottW" <Scott...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
you utterly lack any self awareness at all.
Nobody here has an ounce of respect for you as a worthwhile human
being
Name five who do.
Name one!
Clyde Slick
> In article <grOdnTdvPsFRSszanZ2dnUVZ_uOmn...@comcast.com>,
> "Arny Krueger" <ar...@hotpop.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > "ScottW" <Scott...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
Clyde Slick
> "Arny Krueger" <ar...@hotpop.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > "ScottW" <Scott...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:fqk4j.6287$6r6....@newsfe23.lga
> > > "George M. Middius" <cmndr _ george @ comcast . net>
> > > wrote in message
> > >news:c4g3l3hsat06uv8ls...@4ax.com...
>
> > >> And now for something completely idiotic.
>
> > > That's true. Arny's pawns are complete idiots.
>
> > I vacillate between thinking they are idiots and thinking that they are so
> > arrogant that they think what they do does anything but make them look
> > completely stupid.
>
> > Mostly I don't think about them at all - I just throw them a little meat so
> > that they can keep on humiliating themselves. It seems to be what they want
> > to do.
>
> THey are probably just trying to keep your career going.
we even get residuals on our cut.
Jenn
"ScottW" <Scot...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Oh, OK. Please Scott, teach me more "lessons".
> George, Art, Stephen all know what Arny is.
> They just don't care. It's all fun and games to them.
> You seem to be uniquely clueless.
Oh, I have a very strong opinion concerning what Arny is.
>
> Anyway, I'm sure Ssssshhhh will find it quite amusing that you
> don't see the difference between him and Arny.
Wow. Whoosh!
No, there is a huge difference between Shhh and Arny. What I was
pointing out are the roles of Arny/me, Shhh/you.
Jenn
"Arny Krueger" <ar...@hotpop.com> wrote:
> "Jenn" <jennconduct...@hotmail.com> wrote in
> message
> news:jennconductsREMOVETHIS...@newsclstr03.news.prodigy.net
> > In article <grOdnTdvPsFRSsza...@comcast.com>,
> > "Arny Krueger" <ar...@hotpop.com> wrote:
> >
> >> "ScottW" <Scot...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:fqk4j.6287$6r6....@newsfe23.lga
> >>> "George M. Middius" <cmndr _ george @ comcast . net>
> >>> wrote in message
> >>> news:c4g3l3hsat06uv8ls...@4ax.com...
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> And now for something completely idiotic.
> >>>
> >>> That's true. Arny's pawns are complete idiots.
> >>
> >> I vacillate between thinking they are idiots and
> >> thinking that they are so arrogant that they think what
> >> they do does anything but make them look completely
> >> stupid.
> >>
> >> Mostly I don't think about them at all - I just throw
> >> them a little meat so that they can keep on humiliating
> >> themselves. It seems to be what they want to do.
> >
> > THey are probably just trying to keep your career going.
>
> You do Sackman so well Jenn. How long have you been studying for this?
A lifetime of observing people.
Clyde Slick
> "Jenn" <jennconductsREMOVET...@hotmail.com> wrote in
> You do Sackman so well Jenn. How long have you been studying for this?
Jenn did me just fine
it was like a dream
LOL!!!!
Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!
> "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" <artygu...@hotmail.com> wrote in messagenews:c08b93a8-a93f-425e...@e23g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>
> > On Dec 1, 4:47 pm, "ScottW" <Scott...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> Anyway, I'm sure Ssssshhhh will find it quite amusing that you
> >> don't see the difference between him and Arny.
>
> > Actually, I'm just gobstoppered that you entirely missed Jenn's point.
>
> Something besides you and Arny are alike?
> Oh well.
I wonder why it is that when 2pid says something dumb, he just keeps
going on down the path.
Another surprise.
LOL!
Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!
Sorry, Clyde, you missed the 'point'.
Just ask 2pid.
Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!
nob.
LOL!
_ george @comcast.net George M. Middius
Shhhh! said:
> > Something besides you and Arny are alike?
> I wonder why it is that when 2pid says something dumb, he just keeps
> going on down the [same] path.
Scottie can't learn from his mistakes because he never makes mistakes.
I thought you knew that.
Jenn
<ee743c85-e19b-48c9...@i12g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
Clyde Slick <Mr.cly...@yahoo.com> wrote:
DOH!
Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!
wrote:
> IKYABWAIBorg Jr. whined:
George, 2pid blew by "idiot" and "moron" months ago and crash-landed
at "imbecile". Further, Santa has 2pid penciled for the latest edition
of "Hooked on Phonics", not a lump of coal. Santa feared that 2pid
would burn the coal out of spite, since 2pid is not bright enough to
understand the threat of GW.
Santa changed his database to reflect these changes in 2pid's status.
He's asked that you please consider updating yours.
Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!
> Clyde Slick <Mr.clydesl...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > On 1 Dec, 20:06, "Arny Krueger" <ar...@hotpop.com> wrote:
> > > "Jenn" <jennconductsREMOVET...@hotmail.com> wrote in
>
> > > You do Sackman so well Jenn. How long have you been studying for this?
>
> > Jenn did me just fine
> > it was like a dream
>
> > LOL!!!!
>
> DOH!
It appears that here is yet another with whom you are "more than
partners".
Surprisingly, out of everybody on RAO, I did not see Clyde
coming... ;-)
Jenn
Clyde Slick
> "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" <artygu...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Dec 1, 8:28 pm, Jenn <jennconductsREMOVET...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > In article
> > > <ee743c85-e19b-48c9-825c-70d757455...@i12g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
> > > Clyde Slick <Mr.clydesl...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On 1 Dec, 20:06, "Arny Krueger" <ar...@hotpop.com> wrote:
> > > > > "Jenn" <jennconductsREMOVET...@hotmail.com> wrote in
>
> > > > > You do Sackman so well Jenn. How long have you been studying for this?
>
> > > > Jenn did me just fine
> > > > it was like a dream
>
> > > > LOL!!!!
>
> > > DOH!
>
> > It appears that here is yet another with whom you are "more than
> > partners".
>
> > Surprisingly, out of everybody on RAO, I did not see Clyde
> > coming... ;-)
>
> My Gosh, what a flussie I am!
do you mean floozie?
Jenn
<ff88dbeb-36e1-4908...@p69g2000hsa.googlegroups.com>,
Clyde Slick <Mr.cly...@yahoo.com> wrote:
I guess that I'm not only a floozie, but a dumb one at that!
ScottW
"Clyde Slick" <Mr.cly...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:76257d58-32a1-4fdf...@b40g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
Arny strives to make himself the center of attention.
You grant him all that he seeks.
Nothing else remains here.
ScottW
_ george @comcast.net George M. Middius
Stupidity, let me be blind
To all the ills of humankind;
Fill me with simple sentiment
To walk the way my father went;
School me to sweat with robot folk
Beneath the yoke.
-- Robert Service
> Arny strives to make himself the center of attention.
> You grant him all that he seeks.
The "attention" that the Krooborg craves is the verbal equivalent of a
bath in raw sewage. That's one reason Turdborg is so closely linked to
scat.
> Nothing else remains here.
Vestige of Earthly Remains
Decline of the human empire
Mass existence has expired
Disintegration in a flash of light
Wreckage is what is left in sight
The scars of life are left behind
What has happened to mankind?
Now our world is left in rubble
We should have know we where in trouble
Vestiges and decay
The earth is left this way
Ashes the only trace
Now a lonely place
Shifting through remains
Nothing here to gain
Lifeless barren zone
And I'm here left alone
Human life is overthrown
Look at what I once called at home
This planet seen is left demolished
Entity is now abolish
Elimination we have achieved
From the power of mass greed
Ruins here and that is it
Earth is left a pile of shit
-- Defecation
Clyde Slick
>
> Arny strives to make himself the center of attention.
> You grant him all that he seeks.
>
> Nothing else remains here.
>
> ScottW
we tried having civil audio conversations, but it was he
who poisoned him, with his attempts
to invalidate every opinion that was not properly "ABX CERTIFIED"
your solution requires everybody to absolutely leave RAO.
better yet, humanity can pour into a giant spacecraft, and leave for
another planet, leaving arny all alone on earth.
look, this is OUR group, not his.
ScottW
> On 2 Dec, 00:05, "ScottW" <Scott...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>>
>> Arny strives to make himself the center of attention.
>> You grant him all that he seeks.
>>
>> Nothing else remains here.
>>
>> ScottW
>
> we tried having civil audio conversations, but it was he
> who poisoned him, with his attempts
> to invalidate every opinion that was not properly "ABX CERTIFIED"
So he has won IYO. How wimp is that?
> your solution requires everybody to absolutely leave RAO.
No, it requires you to quit feeding the beast.
Just ignore him. You don't because you think it's funny
to trash Arny.
It matters little anyway, everyone already left.
I guess the good news is that it took me all of 10 minutes
to catch up on nearly 3 weeks of posting.
ScottW
Clyde Slick
> "Clyde Slick" <Mr.clydesl...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:f3c2763b-f6fb-4c89...@d4g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
>
> > On 2 Dec, 00:05, "ScottW" <Scott...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> Arny strives to make himself the center of attention.
> >> You grant him all that he seeks.
>
> >> Nothing else remains here.
>
> >> ScottW
>
> > we tried having civil audio conversations, but it was he
> > who poisoned him, with his attempts
> > to invalidate every opinion that was not properly "ABX CERTIFIED"
>
> So he has won IYO. How wimp is that?
he hasn't "WON" anything,
he just pollutes and prevents discussions
of audio opinions.
he is waht we call an 'obstructionist"
the only effective way of dealing with him is fragging.
since we can't do that, we are just waiting
for the city bus to arrive.
>
> > your solution requires everybody to absolutely leave RAO.
>
> No, it requires you to quit feeding the beast.
> Just ignore him. You don't because you think it's funny
> to trash Arny.
>
ignoring him accomplishes ABSOLUTELY NOTHING
NOTHING!!!!!
He has to be publicly called on every shitty
thing his says or does.
Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!
> ignoring [GOIA] accomplishes ABSOLUTELY NOTHING
> NOTHING!!!!!
>
> He has to be publicly called on every shitty
> thing his says or does.
Just as 2pid has to be called on every stupid thing he ever says.
Hence, Jenn's comparison.
ScottW
Which also accomplishes nothing.
In fact, that's exactly what he wants.
Notice how many have said that Arny said or
did something shitty even when they were
agreeing with him.
You've fallen prey to his trap.
ScottW
_ george @comcast.net George M. Middius
The Idiot is still trying to change the reality constant of the
universe.
> > He has to be publicly called on every shitty
> > thing his says or does.
> In fact, that's exactly what he wants.
Ya think? When human beings get what they want, they become satisfied
and stop seeking the same exact thing over and over and over again. How
about you compare this well-known principle to your pal Krooger. You say
he "wants" the opposition and obloquy, but he usually gets it, and
there's no sign of Krooger being satisfied.
Once again, Scooter, your "motor" has revved you into some weird
twilight zone of illogic and atrophied minds.
Clyde Slick
yes it does,
it doesn't get rid oif the lice,
but one has to call on this shit,
'
just like you do, on your issues, though your nemeses are
not going away, either.
> In fact, that's exactly what he wants.
Of course that is waht he wants
he is an insane masochist, with
paranoid delusions.
> Notice how many have said that Arny said or
> did something shitty even when they were
> agreeing with him.
>
> You've fallen prey to his trap.
>
i hardly ever agree with him.
Clyde Slick
wrote:
Krueger is a clown who wants to have
pies thrown in his face, so, i'll
be one of the one's obliging him.
Arny always gets front row tickets to Gallagher,
being a 'real man', he eschews the apron.
ScottW
"George M. Middius" <cmndr _ george @ comcast . net> wrote in message
news:7kp5l352ea9c3a8c1...@4ax.com...
>
>
> The Idiot is still trying to change the reality constant of the
> universe.
>
>> > He has to be publicly called on every shitty
>> > thing his says or does.
>
>> In fact, that's exactly what he wants.
>
> Ya think? When human beings get what they want, they become satisfied
> and stop seeking the same exact thing over and over and over again. How
> about you compare this well-known principle to your pal Krooger. You say
> he "wants" the opposition and obloquy, but he usually gets it, and
> there's no sign of Krooger being satisfied.
Are addicts ever satisfied?
I thought you were smarter than this, I was wrong.
Krueger needs to be the center of attention on RAO.
He achieves it...wanders off satisfied temporarily
...comes back...does it again.
In the meantime you mourn his absences and cry about his
return.
A strange symbiotic relationship you've grown dependent on.
Jenn tried to study it and became entwined in it herself.
Most people are sufficiently repulsed to just leave.
Maybe there is a sadistic streak in you that craves Arny.
Who knows? Who cares? Who's left?
ScottW
ScottW
What does it accomplish?
You admit below you give him what he wants
so what is accomplished?
A newsgroup devoted to Arny?
ScottW
Clyde Slick
>
> Are addicts ever satisfied?
> I thought you were smarter than this, I was wrong.
>
> Krueger needs to be the center of attention on RAO.
i am a first class enabler
like a true NASCAR fan, I
am waiting for a big wreck.
ScottW
It's usenet. You can't touch him and he's laughing
at you behind an internet glass wall as you
furiously and futilely call for more pies...more pies.
ScottW
ScottW
Unlike a true fan, you keep hoping your
driver is involved. Trouble is..in this race
he will never be sent to the garage.
Your wait is futile.
ScottW
_ george @comcast.net George M. Middius
Witless yapped:
> > Ya think? When human beings get what they want, they become satisfied
> > and stop seeking the same exact thing over and over and over again. How
> > about you compare this well-known principle to your pal Krooger. You say
> > he "wants" the opposition and obloquy, but he usually gets it, and
> > there's no sign of Krooger being satisfied.
> Are addicts ever satisfied?
> I thought you were smarter than this, I was wrong.
Sorry, I forgot it was my job to read your mind.
> In the meantime you mourn his absences and cry about his
> return.
ahem... Please define "mourn" in Scottiespeak. Once again you've gone
off the Standard English reservation and bivouacked in your weird
dimension of melting dictionaries and psychedelic grammar.
Clyde Slick
he actually wants to be worshipped as
the respected font of all knowledge.
but, on the other hand, he also actually craves to be
denigrated as the lowest scum on RAO,'so, either way, he wins!
I suppose that's some
sort of addendum to
the Debating Trade
Clyde Slick
> "Clyde Slick" <Mr.clydesl...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
there is a city bus with his name on it.
Clyde Slick
>
> It's usenet. You can't touch him and he's laughing
> at you behind an internet glass wall as you
> furiously and futilely call for more pies...more pies.
>
i'm cooking up a new batch.
an i'm laughing at the clown each time i throw one.
Jenn
"ScottW" <Scot...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> "George M. Middius" <cmndr _ george @ comcast . net> wrote in message
> news:7kp5l352ea9c3a8c1...@4ax.com...
> >
> >
> > The Idiot is still trying to change the reality constant of the
> > universe.
> >
> >> > He has to be publicly called on every shitty
> >> > thing his says or does.
> >
> >> In fact, that's exactly what he wants.
> >
> > Ya think? When human beings get what they want, they become satisfied
> > and stop seeking the same exact thing over and over and over again. How
> > about you compare this well-known principle to your pal Krooger. You say
> > he "wants" the opposition and obloquy, but he usually gets it, and
> > there's no sign of Krooger being satisfied.
>
> Are addicts ever satisfied?
> I thought you were smarter than this, I was wrong.
>
> Krueger needs to be the center of attention on RAO.
> He achieves it...wanders off satisfied temporarily
> ...comes back...does it again.
> In the meantime you mourn his absences and cry about his
> return.
> A strange symbiotic relationship you've grown dependent on.
> Jenn tried to study it and became entwined in it herself.
Somewhat true. I still find his way of dealing with the world to be
interesting. His huge and sometimes extremely mean overreaction to
situations is beyond anything I've ever seen and, on a personal level,
some things are not easy to forgive. But yes, I occasionally tweak his
nose. You do the same with Shhhh.
> Most people are sufficiently repulsed to just leave.
> Maybe there is a sadistic streak in you that craves Arny.
> Who knows? Who cares? Who's left?
A few. Including you, of course.
Arny Krueger
Yes Art, but the rest of Usenet laughs at you! They know that the Middiot
has turned RAO into a wasteland with your help. Besides, there's nobody but
about 6 sockpuppets to see you launch the pies.
Jenn
"Arny Krueger" <ar...@hotpop.com> wrote:
Just curious, as I don't remember: Am I one of the sockpuppets, in your
eyes?
Clyde Slick
> "Clyde Slick" <Mr.clydesl...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
thanks for contradicting yourself, once again, in the pretzel logic
of your debating trade antics.
on one hand, when i launch a pie, "the rest of Usenet" laughs at me,
on the
other hand, only six sockpuppets are watching.
"At least you admit that you have no audience at all,
except for us six sockpuppets.
Clyde Slick
> In article <trmdncnN1toB0M7anZ2dnUVZ_sKqn...@comcast.com>,
> "Arny Krueger" <ar...@hotpop.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > "Clyde Slick" <Mr.clydesl...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >news:a6aa1c09-ad73-495f...@n20g2000hsh.googlegroups.com
> > > On 2 Dec, 12:34, "ScottW" <Scott...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > >> It's usenet. You can't touch him and he's laughing
> > >> at you behind an internet glass wall as you
> > >> furiously and futilely call for more pies...more pies.
>
> > > i'm cooking up a new batch.
> > > an i'm laughing at the clown each time i throw one.
>
> > Yes Art, but the rest of Usenet laughs at you! They know that the Middiot
> > has turned RAO into a wasteland with your help. Besides, there's nobody but
> > about 6 sockpuppets to see you launch the pies.
>
> Just curious, as I don't remember: Am I one of the sockpuppets, in your
> eyes?
no way, arny had his eyes gouged out 8 years ago.
he is stumbling around blind.
wayne....@gmail.com
> On 1 Dec, 16:56, Jenn <jennconductsREMOVET...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > In article <grOdnTdvPsFRSszanZ2dnUVZ_uOmn...@comcast.com>,
> > "Arny Krueger" <ar...@hotpop.com> wrote:
>
> > > "ScottW" <Scott...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > >news:fqk4j.6287$6r6....@newsfe23.lga
> > > > "George M. Middius" <cmndr _ george @ comcast . net>
> > > > wrote in message
>
> > > >> And now for something completely idiotic.
>
> > > > That's true. Arny's pawns are complete idiots.
>
> > > I vacillate between thinking they are idiots and thinking that they are so
> > > arrogant that they think what they do does anything but make them look
> > > completely stupid.
>
> > > Mostly I don't think about them at all - I just throw them a little meat so
> > > that they can keep on humiliating themselves. It seems to be what they want
> > > to do.
>
> > THey are probably just trying to keep your career going.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
What in the hell is going on here? I ask a simple question and the
conversation goes beserk. I do appreciate the help I was given but I
have no clue what the rest of this thread is all about.
Wayne
_ george @comcast.net George M. Middius
Wayne said:
> I do appreciate the help I was given but I
> have no clue what the rest of this thread is all about.
Did you try reading the subject of the thread? That should help. The
only background info you need in addition to the subject is the
well-known fact that Scottie Witlessmongrel is a moron.
soundhaspriority
jennconductsREMOVETHIS...@newsclstr03.news.prodigy.net
Lesbians by definition CANNOT be sockpuppets.
Regards,
Bob Morein
(310) 237-6511
ScottW
"Jenn" <jennconduct...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:jennconductsREMOVETHIS...@newsclstr03.news.prodigy.net...
I don't know who is worse off. The sociopath or the buffoons who
like to push his buttons.
> His huge and sometimes extremely mean overreaction to
> situations is beyond anything I've ever seen and, on a personal level,
> some things are not easy to forgive. But yes, I occasionally tweak his
> nose. You do the same with Shhhh.
Much as dislike finding myself in the position of defending shhhh.
You need to get off the Shhhh and Arny are alike rationalization.
They're not even close.
>
>> Most people are sufficiently repulsed to just leave.
>> Maybe there is a sadistic streak in you that craves Arny.
>> Who knows? Who cares? Who's left?
>
> A few. Including you, of course.
It ain't to see who Arny pisses on next.
ScottW
Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!
> "Clyde Slick" <Mr.clydesl...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
Hm. Yet you do this to "humilate" people. Yet there's nobody here.
Insanity is such a curious thing to observe.
Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!
> Who knows? Who cares? Who's left?
Based on your output for the past couple of days, the obvious answer
is you.
Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!
> But yes, I occasionally tweak his
> nose. You do the same with Shhhh.
Do you mean to imply that 2pid's stupidity is an act designed to
"tweak my nose"?
I disagree. I think it's real.
Arny Krueger
message
news:jennconductsREMOVETHIS...@newsclstr03.news.prodigy.net
God knows, I can only judge your actions.
Arny Krueger
news:C379ACDF.912BF%now...@nowhere.com
> Lesbians by definition CANNOT be sockpuppets.
That would be false.
What sockpuppets can't do is be smarter than the person who animates them.
Arny Krueger
news:54708ebc-8881-4c8c...@p69g2000hsa.googlegroups.com
- Show quoted text -
>
> What in the hell is going on here? I ask a simple
> question and the conversation goes beserk. I do
> appreciate the help I was given but I have no clue what
> the rest of this thread is all about.
Welcome to RAO!
ScottW
<wayne....@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:54708ebc-8881-4c8c...@p69g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
Welcome to RAO.....where fully 90% of all posts are devoted to
the study of sociopathic behavior.
We have 2 subjects..Arny Kreuger (who occasionally also posts
about audio) and George Middius who never posts anything but
ridicule, either at Arny or those who don't see his point.
Arny does have a life, George apparently only exists on usenet.
Study of their interaction has proven addictive to some
and intellectually debilitating.
So your best advice is to ignore them and save your sanity.
ScottW
Clyde Slick
> "Jenn" <jennconductsREMOVET...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:jennconductsREMOVETHIS...@newsclstr03.news.prodigy.net...
>
>
>
> > In article <iWB4j.1859$hO7...@newsfe13.lga>,
>
>
> >> Most people are sufficiently repulsed to just leave.
> >> Maybe there is a sadistic streak in you that craves Arny.
> >> Who knows? Who cares? Who's left?
>
> > A few. Including you, of course.
>
> It ain't to see who Arny pisses on next.
For me. its to see who pisses on Arny next.