Got my new Cheviot

[KC]

This may not make it up because I am a new member and my first posting from over a week ago hasn't shown up.  I just want to share with everyone that I got my Cheviot 2 days ago and I love it..  Went on a long ride yesterday (with my husband riding his "new" Space Horse thanks to this group) and had so much fun.  Should've bought a good bike years ago.

It is beautiful.  Only problem is I refused to leave it outside and my husband is not really pleased with it in the motor home.  But my son understood completely.  He bought a used Cross Check last week and has it in the house because he just loves looking at it (and he has several Rivs out in the garage so it shouldn't be quite as special an experience for him).

I just don't have any good bicycle knowledge, although I've really been studying up and know 100 times more than I did 4 months ago.  So it was a little scary for me buying this bike, but I couldn't shake the way the Rivendell philosophy spoke to me and I daughter-in-law graciously let me ride her too-big-for-me Glorius enough that it helped.  I had to really rely on Keven.  He patiently answered all my questions, but really I had to just rely on him and I would say the bike is spot-on for me.  Did I mention it is beautiful, - in a very rugged, sporty way.  I agonized over orange because I loved my daughter-in-law's blue bikes, but the orange with the blue highlights is just perfect. 

As I said, I don't really know bikes but it was like a feast just looking at the beautiful bikes in their shop Monday.  The Clems and Clementines are there with beautiful paint jobs.  The curves on the Clementine are so nice.  Makes me want to buy one even though that would be the most ridiculous thing I could do.  It is a sickness.  We'll be dropping by again to pick up a few things - if there is a specific photo someone would like, I'm sure they wouldn't mind if we took it.  Let me know.

[Shoji Takahashi]

Hi KC,

Congrats and enjoy your Cheviot!

shoji

[Deacon Patrick]

Welcome to the bunch, KC! Happy new bike day! That's fantastic you got to ride a Riv (and mixte to boot!) before buying one! I was so nervous before getting mine but putting all trust in Grant and Co. paid off and I absolutely love mine. My family will be getting their Clementines without riding a Riv. ever either, as mine are too big for them to try. Fortunately they trust me, for better or worse. Grin.

Enjoy your rides!

With abandon,

Patrick

[David Spranger]

We would love to see pictures. Congrats! Enjoy your new ride!

DAvid

Charlotte, NC

On Thursday, March 19, 2015 at 11:22:38 AM UTC-4, KC wrote:

[John]

Congratulations!  But where are the photos? 

You gotta share some photos of your new Cheviot!

John

[dougP]

"Should've bought a good bike years ago."

A lot of us have had that revelation.  Regarding Rivendell helping you get comfortable with the purchase, that's a common experience.  When I was first considering a Rivendell, I thought I needed a custom to get what I wanted.  After considerable discussion, it came down to "....we can put you on an Atlantis in a month or so, at $X, or you can have what will essentially be a moderately modified Atlantis design at $2X, at an extended lead time.  So how much are those little fiddly bits worth to you?".  Common sense prevailed and within a few miles of my first ride I knew the stock Atlantis was perfect for me. 

Sounds like you've got enough bike knowledge to get a bike that's making you happy.  Ride a lot & don't study too much.  Some of us on this list tend to overthink things a bit (see any threads related to tires, gearing, frame geometry, etc.).  Fun to talk about but don't obsess (I'm still working on this one).

dougP

[Patrick Moore]

Welcome, congratulations on the new bike, and please post the statutory* photos.

* "Statutory" only in a non-obligatory sort of way.

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[KC]

Thank you so much for asking for pictures.  Most of my pictures aren't the best now that I look at them, taken to send my son detail photos, so I'm just showing 2 views that I took yesterday while my husband was in the store getting dinner supplies. (The metal chair in the background is NOT attached to the bike in spite of how it looks, just poor planning for the photo)

I loved my daughter-in-law's lugs so much and was a little bummed mine wouldn't be as pretty, but I should have paid more attention because I have beautiful blue hearts in my lugs and the nicest headbadge (not that that's what it is all about because I have had 2 great bike rides so far - and since I picked it up late Monday, I have only really owned it 2 days so far.).  I bought blue bar tape to probably wrap the handlebars, but for now am just using it in strategic locations, like under the bell and mirror mounts so as not to scratch up anything while I'm playing around with positions.  My son gave me the pannier for my birthday present so I wanted to show him how nicely they fit on the rack (had to go back to RBW to get help putting on the non-intuitive-for me-after-all rack).  Everything brand new except the transferred seat.

I had never dreamed I would buy a Riv but accidentally came across the retail shop last Oct and accepted Grant's invitation to test ride the following day.  Got to ride a Cheviot a little bit and from that point on it was really just a matter of when, not if.  I spent a ton of time trying to come up with other possible solutions, but this was the right one.  If you see someone on a shiny new beautiful orange bike riding around the Bay Area in the next few weeks with a great big smile on her face, ring your bell at me to say hi!

[Kellie]

Congrats! Great, bullmoose bars! I toyed with those on my new Cheviot (I got the green), but had the Albatross from another build. Here's mine. I put heftier tires on with the rains 'cuz I was 'ariding up in them hills.

On Thursday, March 19, 2015 at 8:22:38 AM UTC-7, KC wrote:

[René Sterental]

Beautiful bikes both!

Congratulations on that new ride! Ring your bell back if you see a hefty guy on a an Atlantis with a cream decal on its down tube and... oh well, just ring your bell at everyone riding a bike with a smile on their face!

Amazing how so many people pass me (in both directions) on road bikes with grimaces on their faces and total un-acknowledgement... what are they chasing?

René 

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[Liesl]

KC, Welcome to the group—and always extra fantastic to see a new woman posting!  Congrat's on your Cheviot and thanks for posting photos.  I'm attaching a shot of Erin's big 60cm Cheviot that she's in love with! -Liesl, a.k.a Riv Chica Warrior

[Kathy Carroll]

What's not to love! Especially the cool details on the handle bar wrap. Very creative.

Kellie, I agonized over color choice and didn't see the green in advance so settled on orange. Saw a green frame at their shop yesterday and thought it was very nice. Takes on different color in different lighting I think.  Loved the mud on your tires - gives an idea of the fun you had

Thank you all for letting me share my joy.

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> KC, Welcome to the group—and always extra fantastic to see a new woman posting!  Congrat's on your Cheviot and thanks for posting photos.  I'm attaching a shot of Erin's big 60cm Cheviot that she's in love with! -Liesl, a.k.a Riv Chica Warrior
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[Cecily Walker]

Stop making me want a Cheviot. *pout*

On Thursday, March 19, 2015 at 8:22:38 AM UTC-7, KC wrote:

[Liesl]

On Thursday, March 19, 2015 at 3:27:04 PM UTC-5, Cecily Walker wrote:

Stop making me want a Cheviot. *pout*

But Cecily, we're not making you do anything; you DO want a Cheviot!

[Bill Lindsay]

Liesl = ENABLER

FACT!

[Deacon Patrick]

Contentment, Cecily. Practice contentment. (Says the guy with 5 Clementines on the way). Grin.

With abandon,

Patrick

[islaysteve]

Welcome, KC. The orange with blue accents is a stunning color combination! Reminds me of the orange Sams which some people accented with blue bar tape. Enjoy your ride! Cheers,
Steve

[Jim Bronson]

What a great post. Made my day. I understand the bit about the
spouse not wanting the bike in the house. My wife would never allow
bike storage in the house. When I was single the bikes used to live

I didn't know nearly as much about bikes when I first got my used
custom Rivendell (certainly never dreamed of being my own bike
mechanic!), and thought my Cannondale CAAD3 66cm was a swell road
bike. The owner who I bought it used from allowed me to take the bike
and ride it for a couple of days. Needless to say after my first ride
on the Rivendell, the Cannondale didn't get ridden much anymore. I
had a BlackBerry back then and immediately after the shop ride that I
first took the Rivendell on I emailed the seller and said something to
the effect of "You're not getting it back! Do you want cash or
check??".

I have learned a lot about bikes since then and mostly twist my own
wrenches now but my Rivendell (custom) is still my go-to bike. I now
have a Redwood that ironically was available new around the time that
I purchased my Cannondale and I wish I had gone that direction, I just
didn't have the knowledge at that point in time and couldn't imagine
buying a bike without riding it first.

On a side note, I sold the Cannondale not long after acquiring my Riv
Custom to someone on the old version of this list (when it wasn't on
Google) who had their buddy's bike fly off the roof mounted bike rack
on the going down the 101. It was a full 6500 Ultegra build that
didn't have that many miles on it so at least if they ditched the
C'dale frame they got some nice parts off of it. ;)

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[Jim Bronson]

Err that was supposed say, "when I was single the bikes lived in the
house but now that I am married they are banished to the garage.

[RoadieRyan]

Orange is the fastest color - gorgeous bike

On Thursday, March 19, 2015 at 8:22:38 AM UTC-7, KC wrote:

[KC]

And orange is fun. I won't keep doing this (too much), but here's yesterday afternoon's (better) pictures. And at the end of the day, my husband asked if I thought there was room for 2 bikes inside the motorhome.  Of course, there is and so nice to see them there ready for the day.

[dougP]

KC:

This group loves photos of our bikes in the wild, and especially exploring unusual places.  Feel free to keep the interesting photos coming. 

dougP

[Surlyprof]

+1 to Doug's sentiment.  It is nice to witness the uncontainable excitement of new Riv owners as they discover how great their bikes really are.  Don't be surprised if your excitement doesn't dissipate for a long time to come.

Happy riding.

John

[Leslie]

So, we'd had a bleak winter (I'm sadly, a fair-weather biker), and a couple of weeks of snow (we occasionally get snow, but, usually can't handle it as efficiently as places north of here);   So, finally, had a few nice days, got out after work for a couple of evening rides on Monday and Tuesday (Wed and Thurs evenings were booked). 

Anyway, I took the Rom on Monday, riding w/ my daughter, then took the Bomba on Tuesday, solo.  Got home just as the wife was texting me that it was dinner time;  so I parked in the living room...  

I can push buttons at times.....


https://www.flickr.com/photos/leslie_bright/16227111794/

  

[Kathy]

Yes, but you very considerately kept the bike off the hardwood floor.
Or were you protecting the tires by making sure they were on the carpet?

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[Kellie]

KC we're neighbors! I often do a loop through Albany, Berkeley, Emeryville starting in Marina Bay and cross over that bridge on weekends.

[Liesl]

I say not only store your bike in the living room, but work on it there, too!  It's way more pleasant!

[Leslie]

On Friday, March 20, 2015 at 12:06:54 PM UTC-4, KC wrote:

Yes, but you very considerately kept the bike off the hardwood floor.  
Or were you protecting the tires by making sure they were on the carpet?

Oh, the Rumpkins can handle hardwood....   ;)  

Actually, it was the kickstand I was thinkin' of, not wanting it on the wood......

 

[Leslie]

On Friday, March 20, 2015 at 1:19:58 PM UTC-4, Liesl wrote:

I say not only store your bike in the living room, but work on it there, too!  It's way more pleasant!

I'll do the mechanical stuff in the workshop at least, don't want grease on the rug.....    :O

 

[dougP]

These little dudes will protect your floor:

http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/k3.htm

Made in Switzerland & sold for $1, fob Walnut Creek.  They wear out, get lost, etc., so I order them several at a time to fill out an order from Rivendell.  They make a nice giveaway when someone notices & says they want one. 

dougP

[Cecily Walker]

Truth. But unless the step over height is lower than the Betty (which I don't think it is), I'll pass.

On Thursday, March 19, 2015 at 1:44:52 PM UTC-7, Liesl wrote:

[Evan E.]

Welcome, KC! Congratulations on your Cheviot!

Evan E.

SF, CA

[KC]

Kellie, not sure if you saw my message. We're from socal and vacationing here in bay area waiting for new granddaughter. Kids live in Marina Bay complex. You will likely find us on the trail today pulling 2 year old in trailer.

Any suggestions for nice rides in the area are appreciated. Preference for out of traffic. Helping with grandson but not tied down so anywhere in general area, incl wine country works.

[Melanie]

Oh, I don't know.  The bedroom is the place for Rivs!  https://www.flickr.com/photos/7563204@N05/16856700776/

On Friday, March 20, 2015 at 1:19:58 PM UTC-4, Liesl wrote:

[Kellie]

Solution; a Riv for every room! (-:

[Patrick Moore]

Can someone explain or point me to a description of and explanation of the differences between:

The Appaloosa;

The Clems;

The Cheviot;

And any other high-swept-back-bar'd, long-stay'd model?

As for bikes in bedroom: I used to park my Falcon next to my bed. One night the tube at 120 psi (19 mm tires!!)* shoved the lousy rim strip aside just enough to puncture itself on the sharp edge of the nipple hole: BANG!!! at 2 am! A rude awakening indeed. The moral is: use Velox.

*Silly tires, but a nice frame that I wish I'd kept: it would have made a wonderful fixie beater.

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[Fullylugged]

You are one of many who can testify that Keven is great at putting you on the right bike, set up the right way. I first encountered him when ordering my Ram, way back when. It's still as comfortable as the day I got it.

[KC]

Not sure I'm happy with my standard build tires. I am not looking for extreme speed by any means, but don't want to be lagging behind. 50cm cheviot 650b 42. I may be predisposed to not love the tires it came with cuz my son said they are slow/heavy. suggestions from this group?

[Kellie]

I have 43's on mine; Bruce Gordon Rock and Roads. Nice center tread for street riding (with a little hum). I had 33's, Gran Bois Cypress before. Don't really notice a difference in speed, but do notice a more comfy ride and increased ability off road with the 43's.

GB Cypress

Rock and Road's

[dougP]

"I may be predisposed to not love the tires it came with cuz my son said they are slow/heavy. suggestions from this group? "

In my experience, people who tell me my tires are slow & heavy don't have much experience with good quality chubby tires.  The impression of big tires being slow is often based on experience with cheap MTB knobbies or beach cruisers.  If your son is riding narrow high pressure tires it's no surprise this would be his opinion.  I'd say to ride the bike as-is & see how you feel about the speed.  I think Grant wrote about riding with people who wouldn't leave you behind.  Our children, OTH, can be a special case.  If he's that fast, tell him to circle back.  He'll get more miles in that way.

dougP

On Sunday, March 29, 2015 at 1:40:52 PM UTC-7, KC wrote:

[Kathy Carroll]

My son is a member of this group, rides several rivs and is the reason i have the cheviot with 650b 42 tires. Specifically, he was concerned with the continental tour rides they put on it. Riv response is you don't go fast when you get flats.  I get that, but you also don't want to be lagging behind in the herd of rivs. 

Haven't had a chance to even show my new bike to my son yet.  But my husband seems to be riding faster than me and that's not the plan

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[Deacon Patrick]

Tires change easily. Try the tires you want to try and see if you get faster and/or have more flats.

With abandon,

Patrick 

[Kellie]

Tires do change easily but they can also be an expensive experiment. I'd give the Tour Rides a little more time and get really familiar with your Cheviot. I also had the Tour Rides on my Hillborne. I didn't like them; they felt "stiff." That's when I switched to the GB Cypress, which are supple and buttery smooth. Some complain of flats with them but I haven't had a one for over a year. Even rode a 50 mile day on some light gravel with them. They're now planned to reside on my new to me Saluki I'm building. The Cypress' also started on my Cheviot, but then I wanted more tread and thicker tires for grip/comfort on the dirt trails.

[islaysteve]

KC, to expand on James' post above, Grand Bois Hetres have been the darlings of this group and others, for their smooth and seemingly fast ride. They are not cheap. This seems to be a Golden Age for 650b tires, with new tires being introduced by GB and other makers. There is a related 650b Google group that you might want to check out. Another option is the Pari Moto (38), which has been introduce in a more reasonably price "gravel" version. Cheers,
Steve

[dougP]

KC:

Apologies to your son for my assuming he was speaking from a racing perspective.  He could be onto something.

The Continental Tour Rides weigh in at 675 grams per their website for 42 mm 650B.  By contrast, Compass Baby Shoe Pass are 390 grams and the Hetre are 412 grams.  Both are $59.  One of our Riv group rode Strada Rossa last weekend on the Hetres with no flats.  Compass (Jan Heine) is big on supple, comfy tires.  Might be something to consider if you continue to feel the Contis are kinda doggy. 

FWIW, I picked up a pair of 26" x 1.75" Continentals (not sure of the model) on sale for an old MTB for utility use.  They did feel kinda clunky but they were cheap.  Later I stumbled onto a pair of Schwalbe Marathon Supremes in 26" x 2" & those felt a whole lot lighter & cushier than the Contis. 

We're not normally a bunch of weight weenies here but you are spinning up an extra 500+ grams of tire weight over what you would with tires in the 400 gram per tire range. 

dougP

[stonehog]

Baby Shoes or Hetres. Amazing tires, and they "go Fast"!!

Brian Hanson
Seattle, WA

[Dan McNamara]

I did not care for the Tour Rides. They were pretty dead feeling. Switched over to the 650B Big Bens and was much happier. This was on the Bombadil.

On the Cheviot I have the Soma New Express and on the Betty we have Soma B-Line. I prefer the B-Line although they are not as puncture resistant as the New Express. You can find B-Lines for decent prices. New Express measure 36 and the B-Line measure 38.

Ultimately I am going to put Rock N' Roads on the Cheviot as I intend to use it for some trail riding.



My .02

Dan

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[Patrick Moore]

Kellie: the magic ingredient that allows one much of the best worlds of light, supple tires and freedom from punctures is Stan's or (I hear it's even better) Orange Seal. Stan's has let me use otherwise hopelessly puncture prone Schwalbe Furious Freds and Challenge Parigi Roubaix in goathead land where I'd get a thorn flat literally every couple of miles.

I'm with you; I can't stand stiff, sluggish tires; I'd rather fix flats. But modern sealants have squared the otherwise impossible circle.

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[KC]

I like the concept of the 42's.  My limited research (that is googling) led me to believe the Hetres would be a good choice.  While they are more expensive, it is important to keep in mind I just "justified"  a Rivendell (even though not the most expensive choice, it was a lot more than I ever thought I'd spend for a bike).  I'm old enough that I get to say, quite frequently it seems, "I only have so many years left..."  Works out pretty good, especially when added to the fact that I'm sorta on vacation right now and in my family, when you go on vacation, you get to justify a lot.  So I want to make sure I am getting to know the Cheviot under good conditions. 

If no one has a reason I shouldn't give the Hetres a try, that is what I will probably do (and be sure to take along something to fix a tire with).  I am interested in hearing if anyone thinks that is a bad choice. I don't mind spending the money on them, just don't want to do it over and over, since I only have one bike to use the tires on.

I don't go out of my way to ride gravel, but I seem to end up on at least some gravel everywhere I go.  But only "some".  Like today, we headed off to take the Joe Rodota trail from Santa Rosa to Sebastapol and somehow made a wrong turn right away and ended up on a different trail that turned out to be wonderful (photo above) and we thought a much nicer ride than the Joe Rodota trail (which we managed to take for the return trip).  And since we didn't know we were on the wrong trail, when we got to the end of trail sign we kept going because there was still a trail and we obviously weren't where we were headed yet.  And at that point, the trail because a pretty gravel-heavy trail.  We finally got to downtown Sebastapol and even met up with someone on the way that did it on purpose.  Chuck and I both agreed it was a great day and very fortunate we took the wrong trail.  So I want to be able to ride easily and deal with whatever comes up (without getting off to walk too often).  And no sense in me having bullet-proof tires is the others in my group don't.

DougP - I appreciate your input, just figured I'd better defend my son quickly before he saw the post! I really appreciate all his input (and will review the tire decision with him before doing anything).  The pannier on my bike was my birthday gift from his family and I'm loving it.

Kellie - I will be back in your area tomorrow morning for a few hours.  Is there a bike shop in the area that would likely stock any of the tires I would consider?  I'm getting such a great opportunity to ride different places while we're here that I'd love to make the swap sooner rather than later to maximize my fun. 

[cyclotourist]

I tend to favor the kitchen it seems:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/4205517724

https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/2406321019

Not so good for taking a nap, but snacks are handy.

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[Kellie]

 Is there a bike shop in the area that would likely stock any of the tires I would consider? 

Lots of bike shops but I don't know who'd have Hetres. Wheels of Justice on Solano, Mikes Bikes, Missing Link, Blue Heron; these are all in Berkeley. Many love the Hetres…..

[Romel Jacinto]

On Monday, March 30, 2015 at 7:25:48 AM UTC-7, Kellie wrote:

 Is there a bike shop in the area that would likely stock any of the tires I would consider? 
Lots of bike shops but I don't know who'd have Hetres. Wheels of Justice on Solano, Mikes Bikes, Missing Link, Blue Heron; these are all in Berkeley. Many love the Hetres…..

Box Dog Bikes in San Francisco indicates on their website that they have Hetres in stock. It would probably be a good idea to call to confirm before heading there though.
FYI, they're just a couple of blocks away from the 16th street BART station if you want to go by public transit.

https://boxdogbikes-3.myshopify.com/collections/components/products/tire-650b-grand-bois-1

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[Dan McNamara]

Kellie - I have a slightly used pair that you are welcome to try if you want. I bought them from the list to have some backup tires but they might be better put to use. 

I work in Emeryville and drive from San Rafael every day so we could arrange something. 

Dan

[Kathy Carroll]

Hi Dan, Was that offer meant for me rather than Kellie?  Hetres? 

On Mar 30, 2015 9:41 AM, "Dan McNamara" <djmcn...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Kellie - I have a slightly used pair that you are welcome to try if you want. I bought them from the list to have some backup tires but they might be better put to use. 
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> I work in Emeryville and drive from San Rafael every day so we could arrange something. 
>
> Dan
>
> On Mar 30, 2015, at 7:25 AM, Kellie <kellie.s...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>>  Is there a bike shop in the area that would likely stock any of the tires I would consider? 
>> Lots of bike shops but I don't know who'd have Hetres. Wheels of Justice on Solano, Mikes Bikes, Missing Link, Blue Heron; these are all in Berkeley. Many love the Hetres…..
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>> On Sunday, March 29, 2015 at 7:53:22 PM UTC-7, KC wrote:
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>>> I like the concept of the 42's.  My limited research (that is googling) led me to believe the Hetres would be a good choice.  While they are more expensive, it is important to keep in mind I just "justified"  a Rivendell (even though not the most expensive choice, it was a lot more than I ever thought I'd spend for a bike).  I'm old enough that I get to say, quite frequently it seems, "I only have so many years left..."  Works out pretty good, especially when added to the fact that I'm sorta on vacation right now and in my family, when you go on vacation, you get to justify a lot.  So I want to make sure I am getting to know the Cheviot under good conditions. 
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>>> If no one has a reason I shouldn't give the Hetres a try, that is what I will probably do (and be sure to take along something to fix a tire with).  I am interested in hearing if anyone thinks that is a bad choice. I don't mind spending the money on them, just don't want to do it over and over, since I only have one bike to use the tires on.
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[Dan McNamara]

Oops. Yes. 

[Dave C]

That's sounds like a good offer.

I have never uses the Hetres, but I currently am using the 32 mm GB Cypres, and I really do like them a bunch. I have been using them on fire roads in my area, and I think they have been very versatile and have a nice ride. When my wife's Glorius is in need of new tires, I will get her the Hetres, even though the Col de la vies are fine. In fact, I can't say for sure the Cypres is any better than a non-TG Pasela, but I think it's good to have the options that didn't exist a decade ago.

Does anyone know if the Cypres tires have been empirically compared to the Paselas with any conclusive results?

And has the new 650B Pasela been tested by anyone yet (assuming it is out) and compared to the Hetres?

[Kathy Carroll]

Dan, i sent an email directly to you
Kathy

[Bruce Herbitter]

I recall Jan doing a thorough tire comparison.  The old G.B. Ourson has the same tread as CDV on a better body and rides noticeably nicer. I have the non TG pasela 1 1/2" on my Ram and Oursons on the Road with a TREK wearing Maxy Fastys. They all ride well but the Paselas are the noisiest of the bunch. The maxy Fastys are best against puncture.  Pari Motos are lovely to ride on but puncture more easily. Mileage on them is around 2,000 max which is about the same as the Pasela. The others will get you over 3,000. Cypres ran in between iirc. I have been trying to use up some of my stockpile prior to buying new tires, but many of the new offerings are tempting.

[Liesl]

I giggled out loud at that first kitchen shot. Classic!

[KC]

Next challenge. I can't ride without a mirror. In fact i used 2 bar end mirrors on my old bike - i have a condition that results in less peripheral vision (minimized eye movement) so it really helps me keep track.

New bike has bar end shifters that I'm really enjoying. I added one German mirror from riv cuz i didn't see a better option based on my googles and bike shop forays. It's ok, but the distortion is so different. I am used to a much truer perspective.

i really prefer not using a helmet mount. Has anyone seen a good handle bar option? It also seems like i should be able to create a mount that would let me repurpose my bar end mirrors to mount on the handle bar. Has anyone done that? Hard for me to believe someone else hasn't tackled this already.

[Dave C]

http://www.nashbar.com/bikes/Product_10053_10052_552651_-1___

http://www.nashbar.com/bikes/Product_10053_10052_535557_-1___

These mounts on the bars themselves, not the ends.

[grrlyrida]

That's where my Riv is too. Right next to my bed.