Subtitles on Front Row on MacOS 10.5 (Leopard)

[th.la...@gmail.com]

Hello !

I would like I've noticed a little bug with Perian on Leopard. When
you play a movie with .srt subtitles on Front Row, every time a
subtitle should be on screen, the video become completely black. When
there are not subtitles, the video play well.

This problem appears only on FrontRow, with QuickTime, all works fine.

This problem appears on all builds I tested (9A527, 9A559 and 9A581,
the final one).

And sorry for my bad english, I'm french...

Thank you,

Thomas Lavergne

[Chris Forsythe]

Hi,

We are unable to discuss 10.5 until it is out. Since this is a
global organization, we'll be waiting until 10.5 is out in every
location that it is going to be released on the 26th, so do not expect a
response until the 27th or 28th realistically.

Chris

[autoy]

Sorry to interrupt but leopard is going to be released worldwide
tomorrow at the same time AFAIK.

On 25 oct, 16:24, Chris Forsythe <ch...@growl.info> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> We are unable to discuss 10.5 until it is out. Since this is a
> global organization, we'll be waiting until 10.5 is out in every
> location that it is going to be released on the 26th, so do not expect a
> response until the 27th or 28th realistically.
>
> Chris
>

[Chris Forsythe]

No, it's 6 pm local time. So it increments with each time zone. The
US probably gets it last.

Chris

[robert]

Officially ships in 3 hours and 56 minutes here in Japan but they
have been selling it for 2 days in some stores.

[Alexander Strange]

On Oct 26, 1:04 am, robert <rockja...@mac.com> wrote:
> Officially ships in 3 hours and 56 minutes here in Japan but they
> have been selling it for 2 days in some stores.

Apple's lists are requesting people not discuss it until 6pm Pacific
tomorrow.

However, not knowing anything about Leopard, it's probably a bug in
Front Row. We don't change any behavior per-app.

[Chris Forsythe]

Most of the devs are in the US.

Long story short, tomorrow after it's 6 pm on the 26th everywhere. I
don't know if we'll have an answer by tomorrow, but that keeps us
from being sued.

Chris

[autoy]

The problem seems to affect both frontrow and quicklook (which is even
worse).

On 25 oct, 11:27, "th.laver...@gmail.com" <th.laver...@gmail.com>
wrote:

[Alexander Strange]

On Oct 27, 1:25 pm, autoy <jesusgall...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The problem seems to affect both frontrow and quicklook (which is even
> worse).

Confirmed in FrontRow; it can't handle movie tracks with alpha
anymore, or at least not our kind.
Strangely, when I looked at the sample I had there were edit list
entries, which I thought I'd gotten rid of. Maybe there's a bug in our
MKV demuxer.

Quicklook works fine for me, though. Screenshot?
(It might depend on your video card.)

[autoy]

That doesn't seem to make sense as Frontrow uses quicklook (AFAIK) to
display files. Will try to ulpoad a sample when my own mac is
migrated.

[Graham Booker]

Same here. Front Row shows black screen with the subs (fine up to the
first sub), but Quicklook is perfectly fine with them.

[chum...@gmail.com]

Why not think about the native "Closed Captioning" support in QT 7.2?
Many things can be easier, e.g. switching on/off the subtitles, or
maybe switching.

[Vincent Noel]

I am seeing this too - in leopard front row, as soon as the subtitles
kick in, the video goes dark and stays that way, even if the rest of
the video has no subtitles. The sound is still playing fine though.
It's a bummer, since it means that no subtitled video can play in
front row.
The weird part is that it works fine in either quicktime player or
quick look...

Apparently others are seeing this too (in french):
http://forums.macgeneration.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=4454268

> smime.p7s
> 4KTélécharger

[ewssk]

Same problem for me with perian/frontrow and leopard :
When a subtitles has to be loaded, the screen becomes black : no more
videos but the sound still continues.
Another probleme is when I play MKV file, video is OK, but sound is
very bad (I can ear the soundtrack, but some noise are over).

Any fix for this problem ?

[lexluthor]

+1 :-(

[Aliakin]

Hi

I have the same problem.
Only fix I found was to use Qucktime Pro or some other video program
to reencode the avi/mov/ect with subtitles into appleTV format.
Then it works perfectly.

Wish someone would get a better way cause the quality is not always so
good.

Alain

[autoy]

Quicktime 7.3 fixes a flaw with Front Row connected to external
screens with Leopard. Previously with a mirrored plasma/lcd screen, FR
would show audio but no video with a video file.

Can anyone check if also subtitle display is fixed with the new QT
update?

On Oct 25, 10:27 am, "th.laver...@gmail.com" <th.laver...@gmail.com>
wrote:

[th.la...@gmail.com]

Problem is the same with the update for me.

[Alexander Strange]

On Nov 6, 3:16 am, autoy <jesusgall...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Quicktime 7.3 fixes a flaw with Front Row connected to external
> screens with Leopard. Previously with a mirrored plasma/lcd screen, FR
> would show audio but no video with a video file.
>
> Can anyone check if also subtitle display is fixed with the new QT
> update?

It's still there in 7.3. One of my UI bugs is now differently wrong,
but the rest are just totally unchanged...

Actually, I just saw another UI weirdness; the window title for one of
my MKVs is being set to the active text track's title. I think that
one might be new.

[autoy]

Any news on the 10.5.1 front?

[frf...@gmail.com]

I've up'ed to 10.5.1 still no image when the subs start. I do see subs
in the frame grab that FR uses for cover art. As above have stated -
can use QT to play the file with subs no problem there...

[Nico]

I have the same problem too...

The only way is encode the video in AppleTV format : 30mins for a
300Mo vid size.

AppleTv(m4v) format is not great be cause the file size is 20-30%
greater than the divx size...

[sjogro]

me too. will this be fixed in Perian 1.1 ? or is it not a
compatibility problem, more an Apple problem?

[[[dbalieiro]]]

[>][same here]
[>][using VLC media player [ http://www.videolan.org/vlc/ ] ][ last
version working very fast with Leopard New Features and Remote
Controler]

@[[dbalieiro.org]]

[Nico]

I managed to see the subtitles but it's not that great.

I convert the .srt file into "quicktime text" with TitleLab.
Then I import the .txt quicktime text (with Edit>add to movie).
With the Movie poperties pannel, I tried to edit the layer text, with
visual configuration". There are someoptions, but I can't fond a good
way to integrate the subtitles, with a full alpha...

But this way, Front Row displayed the subtitles.

[[[dbalieiro]]]

[>][and a good way to do that to thousands of files with multi
languages srt? ][ That's is not grat, that's terrible!!]
[>][please guys of Apple & VLC, exchange ideas to make the solution!!!]

[[dbalieiro]]
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@[[dbalieiro]]

[Chris Forsythe]

This is not the vlc list. This is not a way to contact apple for
support. Please keep everything on topic, specifically about Perian.

Chris

[[[dbalieiro]]]

[>][man!!]
[>][sorry!]
[>][it's just a joke]
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@[[dbalieiro]]

[cen...@gmail.com]

It's not working for me either...
hoping someone answers this thread with a solution

[jdo]

Hi,
I just upgraded to the new front row available since today and the
problem it's not solved. :(
I don't know why don't they manage to solve this issue.