[vim/vim] vim.org should redirect to www.vim.org (Issue #11259)

Yee Cheng Chin

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Oct 1, 2022, 7:54:40 PM10/1/22

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Currently, if you navigate to https://vim.org, nothing would show up. Instead, you have to go to https://www.vim.org. It's pretty common practice these days to do a redirect if the "www" version is the canonical one. E.g. if you navigate to https://google.com it does have a DNS entry, and it will simply do an HTTP 301 redirect to https://www.google.com.

Probably not a high priority issue, but it could be a little disorienting to people when you just type vim.org in the browser and then nothing shows up.

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Yee Cheng Chin

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Oct 1, 2022, 7:58:20 PM10/1/22

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Another example of a website that does this is https://gnu.org/software/emacs/ which redirects to https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/. 😅

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Bram Moolenaar

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Oct 2, 2022, 5:59:17 AM10/2/22

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Closed #11259 as completed.

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Bram Moolenaar

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Oct 2, 2022, 5:59:18 AM10/2/22

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This has been mentioned several times, but the maintainer of the DNS records says it doesn't work. I forgot the details.
Fortunately several browsers handle this if you type "vim.org".

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Martin Tournoij

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Oct 2, 2022, 1:52:57 PM10/2/22

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This has been mentioned several times, but the maintainer of the DNS records says it doesn't work. I forgot the details.
Fortunately several browsers handle this if you type "vim.org".

Neither Firefox not Chromium on my system do this.

I'm pretty sure this can be made to work, one way or the other, even if it's just pointing vim.org to a simple HTML page with a meta refresh tag.

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JohnBeckett

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Oct 5, 2022, 12:26:32 AM10/5/22

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The issue is that a volunteer handles all DNS issues at no cost or hassle for Bram. It keeps working year after year. That volunteer takes the technically correct view that vim.org is a domain name and it would be a mistake to expect a domain name to function as a host (a web server).

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Oct 5, 2022, 1:14:39 AM10/5/22

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Neither Firefox not Chromium on my system do this.

Firefox(105) does, Chrome(105) doesn't on my system. Is there an option buried somewhere?

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Yee Cheng Chin

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Oct 5, 2022, 2:28:46 AM10/5/22

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Hmm Firefox definitely didn't work for me before and now it seems to work. I have no idea why. I think it may depend on whether you have visited https://www.vim.org before.

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Dana Woodman

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Oct 17, 2023, 7:25:41 PM10/17/23

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Almost all DNS providers support this. At a minimum a redirect could be setup. This seems a weird thing to have broken for such a hugely popular project

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Tony Mechelynck

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Oct 17, 2023, 8:02:47 PM10/17/23

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On Sun, Oct 2, 2022 at 7:52 PM Martin Tournoij <vim-dev...@256bit.org> wrote:

This has been mentioned several times, but the maintainer of the DNS records says it doesn't work. I forgot the details.
Fortunately several browsers handle this if you type "vim.org".

Neither Firefox not Chromium on my system do this.

I'm pretty sure this can be made to work, one way or the other, even if it's just pointing vim.org to a simple HTML page with a meta refresh tag.

IIRC, on Firefox and SeaMonkey it is a preference. In SeaMonkey 2.53.18b1pre for Linux64 it is «Edit → Preferences → Browser → Location Bar → Unknown Locations → [x] Add "www." and ".com" to the location if a web page is not found». In Firefox Nightly 120.0a1 I tried to find it but couldn't; but after typing vim.org followed by <Enter> in the Location bar it said:

We can’t connect to the server at vim.org. Did you mean to go to www.vim.org?

so it is just one click to get to the Vim homepage.

Best regards,

Tony.

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Oct 17, 2023, 8:03:06 PM10/17/23

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On Sun, Oct 2, 2022 at 7:52 PM Martin Tournoij ***@***.***>

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Yee Cheng Chin

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Oct 18, 2023, 3:05:04 AM10/18/23

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From the vim_dev mailing list, there's an effort to build a new website anyway, so this should hopefully be fixed as part of that effort. This should really be fixed at the DNS / server configuration level instead of relying on browser behaviors.

https://groups.google.com/g/vim_announce/c/cUzmP2xxecM/m/tEht7Pz5HAAJ

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Dana Woodman

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Oct 18, 2023, 2:26:27 PM10/18/23

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I can recommend DNSimple (not affiliated) as a cheap and flexible provider that supports "alias" records that will handle the redirects for you.