vetting of mails being uploaded on the veterans india group

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RHINO RAMANAN

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Feb 1, 2013, 10:10:57 PM2/1/13
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Respected moderator
pl refer to mails on CSD ECHS behaviour to different class of veterans 
can we have some system of vetting / censoring of mails before they are uploaded on the cloud .
it will help preventing image damaging mails coming on air.
please consider favourably to prevent loss of valuable time 
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dr ram
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On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 3:18 AM, <vetera...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

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    Achuthan <ar.ac...@gmail.com> Feb 01 07:09AM -0800  

    Dear Wingco Mahabir Singh Sir,
     
    You can rest assured that I will not do anything to jeopardize the unity of
    veterans. Elsewhere, another veteran officer advised me not to crib. And
    I am not "used to make such complaints" as another veteran wrote below. I
    was and still am a very sincere and loyal airman (of course now ex-airman)
    who always praise the service that I served in and cherish the memories of
    my life in the AF and the people that I met there including many of my
    superior officers. I have always said that what I am today is because of
    the nourishment, both biological and intellectual, that I got from the AF,
    and still say that with pride.
     
    Complaining about anyone always brings out the worst response from those
    who are complained about. What do you think the Babus of our country are
    thinking about you and me when we complain that they are the root cause of
    all our problems? What do you think the men in Olive Green thought about
    the IAF's top brass when they complained that Army should not get the
    attack helicopters because that way they are stepping on their toes? So
    let's not say that just because I complained about something, I am the bad
    boy.
     
    Let's admit that we Indians have this class system deep-deep-deeply rooted
    in our minds and every strata of the society and government are imbibed
    with this trait, irrespective of whether they are uniformed or otherwise.
    My voice is only against that trait. We need to introspect about this. And
    for that what better platform than this veteran group where we have every
    kind of rank in it?
     
    Yes, I am disgusted by the so called "Ranks" because, the ranks in our
    Indian context in military and civil are more appropriate in its adjective
    form, than in its noun form.
     
    I have worked and seen the behavior of people from very many nations
    during the past 18 years after my retirement from the IAF and noticed that
    everyone from the developed world treat their junior as colleagues when
    they leave office after a day's work. Its only at work that someone is boss
    and the other "under" him. The sooner one leaves one's work place, everyone
    is equal. And if the boss is bossy even after working hours, the junior
    will, and is entitled to show him the middle finger.
     
    Returning to our topic, please understand that the present day OR veterans
    are frustrated because of the treatment meted out to them even "after
    leaving the work place", at such common facilities as the ECHS and CSD
    outlets. We oldies can take that. But the youngsters are a generation
    down. They just can't understand why this rank system still exist at those
    places. Individual cases of better governance of these facilities being
    narrated some veterans are to be ignored. We are talking about the policy
    as a whole. Why not make it possible for the ORs to buy a particular type
    of car through CSD? Do you think a retired Maj Gen would earn ten times the
    income that a retired Sgt, as he used to while in service? That is a
    fallacy. All OR veterans who come out of the service do not become
    security guards at the bank. I vouch to say that there are plenty of
    veterans from the OR category also who are well placed and/or
    are entrepreneurs, who can afford a car of any type and model. So why
    restrict it only to retired officers? Another instance is about not being
    able to get admitted through ECHS to private rooms. ORs and their families
    are asked to go to the general wards, whereas Officers are admitted to the
    private rooms. Even if I am ready to pay for the private room, they won't
    allow me. And if admitted in private rooms, I stand to lose my ECHS
    sanction for treatment in that hospital. How could one reconcile to that?
     
    Sir, I am not anti-officers. I too have relatives and friends in Indian
    Armed Forces. Only last Sunday, I was hosting a serving officer couple at
    my home. So, please discard any notion that I am cribbing etc etc.
     
    Regards
     
    Achuthan
     
    Sgt (Retd)
     
    On Thursday, January 31, 2013 12:14:50 PM UTC+5:30, mahabir wrote:

     

    "Col Madan Sharma (Veteran)" <mada...@gmail.com> Feb 01 05:57AM +0530  

    Dear Wg Cdr Mahabir Saunriyal, A very good and apt reply by you.
    unfortunately one tends to forget about self while commenting on others. I
    feel A General will remain General retired or serving nothing wrong in
    giving his due to him similarly, a Subedar Major though retired will always
    get his due. The ranks in forces are earned not granted and must be
    respected retired or serving. Can I ever claim the in date of commission I
    was senior to even the last Chief of Army Staff . This has to be understood
    by all of us and respect the rank held by the person, Regards Madan M
    Sharma
     
     
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