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Chidi,
Plagiarism / stealing is a criminal offence, isn’t it? Someone harvesting/ reaping that which he did not sow. They know that writing a history of the evolution of poetry in Nigeria is no easy task, so they should give credit for what they borrow, at least say “According to Chidi Anthony Opara”, “According to Professor Harrow”, “According to Ojogbon Falola”, “According to the Gospel of Matthew”, “ According to Chairman Mao “or “According to ECOWAS Chairman Tinubu” as the case may be.
Having mentioned Chairman Mao - associative thinking - I can’t help remembering a fellow Pan-Africanist recently laughing and referring to the “ Standby Force”, that Chairman is boasting about as just another ”Paper Tiger”. Paper Tiger, of course, is not “plagiarism”, Paper Tiger is a key Maoist concept about the West when the capacity to bark is louder and more vicious than the ability to bite…
As for me, that’s why I post so many links, they sometimes serve as footnotes as one should not take it for granted that everybody knows what a smörgåsbord is…
It’s good that at least you’ve done your duty, you have issued a warning. What else can you do? So, are you going to litigate, going to take “appropriate legal actions”, going to assert your intellectual property rights in the hope that they will pay damages/ a heavy fine - or go to prison? Then you could find yourself on an endless wild goose chase, I mean chasing and trying to bring to justice, dozens, hundreds, maybe even thousands of miscreant wannabes who deliberately quote or misquote you without attribution/citation marks / inverted commas, may even slightly - or grossly- distort what you are alleged to have said, originally, within quotation marks, whole such sentences/ideas, attributed to Chidi Anthony Opara Esq. and thus defame you, give you a bad name, worst case scenario, sing your songs and sell your poems falsely published under their names!
You may be standing on a weak foundation when it comes to proving that “ y”I was your idea, especially when you don’t have a monopoly on ideas, including the ideas you may be referring to when you say, “Some persons have also lifted ideas and phrases from it in their own articles and have duly given credits.”
I don’t know who these “ some persons” are, but In their own defence, they can say that “ Great minds think alike”...word for word, sentence by sentence, paragraph by paragraph, verse stanza by verse stanza. You should also take note that once you’ve published something, once you’ve put it out there, it’s then common, public property ... .that kind of thievery.
That kind of malpractice is not peculiar to you. take the example of the average Pentecostal / Evangelical Bible thumper who like a gramophone never tires of chirping this kind of babble into heathen ears, that
Well such a one will probably be surprised should he check this out :
Bart D Ehrman on who wrote the Gospels and who wrote the Epistles of Peter
If you think that's something I wonder how you and Pastor Sam react to Bart Ehrman’s Misquoting Jesus
In the political arena, some of the self-righteous who feel that they themselves are occupying the higher moral grounds and would therefore “ by any means possible including brute military intervention/ military operation in Niger, have this reality as part of their own personal baggage: Talking absolute sense: Niger Coup: Rigging Your Way To Win An Election Is Also A Coup - Ibrahim Mai-Sule -is also a coup, is also stealing, is also corruption, plagiarism, deception…
Was thinking about NIGER this afternoon as I listened to
Miles Davis Quintet - It Never Entered My Mind
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Right now this is what I’m checking out: what Bart D.Ehrman has to say on plagiarism, and it’s serious since it's supposedly dealing with “ the holy word / the holy words of GOD - whereas you must admit that Chidi’s words are really not that HOLY….
You say that I ”ended up wiping the same plagiarism off the surface of the earth.”
Me? I did no such thing. That was great poetry in that your hyperbolic one-liner, Chidi, attributed such omnipotence to me! But really, am I so powerful, so omnipotent that I can “wipe plagiarism off the surface of the earth” ?
Your Majesty, I plead NOT GUILTY!
Reminds me of a certain young lady who had sought me out and finally found me. This was way back in Sierra Leone. Yes, what can I do for you, I asked her. She wanted to know if I was Cornelius Hamelberg and I told her yes, she had come to the right guy. It was then that she took a deep breath and told me that a certain gentleman by the name of Cornelius Hamelberg had made her pregnant. I told her that it must have happened in the dark because it was not me. She fainted. Literally. So you see dear Chidi, that was another clear case of impersonation; someone had seduced her, by telling her that he was “ Cornelius Hamelberg'' - the Cornelius Hamelberg, and written his signature all over her. And there you have it, a clear case of impersonation or as you would call it in your literary circles, a clear case of plagiarism. As Jesus said, rather paradoxically: ”When I come in my Father's name, you do not accept me, when someone else comes in his own name, you will accept him”
Must we pay homage to Galileo each time we take it for granted that the earth is round?
“ I know the more one sickens, the worse at ease he is, and that he that wants money, means, and content is without three good friends; that the property of rain is to wet, and fire to burn; that good pasture makes fat sheep; and that a great cause of the night is lack of the sun; that he that hath learned no wit by nature nor art may complain of good breeding or comes of a very dull kindred.” ( Corin)
Now, if I were to cherry-pick from what you say here about democracy and add a little flavouring with my own personal pepper and salt, should I first have to give some acknowledgements, some thanks and praises to Chidi Anthony Opara for some of the obvious ( and the not so obvious) that he said there, lest I be charged with ”plagiarism” when he gets round to taking “some appropriate legal action/s”? The answer, of course, is NO. There's something known as” common knowledge” ( which - just like common sense, sometimes, is not so common; notions such as “ Christ died for our sins” - another realm of philosophical reality which can only be deciphered and properly understood by, first and foremost, St.Paul & the Apostles, a few mathematicians turned pastors, and of course Jesus himself and his twelve disciples…
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T. S. Eliot and Bob Dylan are allusive
Of course, some people are writing as if our literary forefathers never existed…
Isn’t Chidi Anthony Opara sometimes allusive?
Silly question: The Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock had been passed off as prose instead of poetry, would T.S .have been accused of plagiarism?
In the world of pop music, just a few weeks ago Ed Sheeran won a case about plagiarism // alleged plagiarism
Last question; Not that you would be naming and shaming them, but could Chidi give us just a few examples of “some persons have been lifting phrases and ideas from the article without giving due credits.” ?
Salawat !You are obviously addressing the world of the academe, and the preacher man.How do you handle a poet like T. S. Eliot or even Bob Dylan who is also so allusive?BTW, Modern English and American Literature was my forte. I'm re-re-reading Eliot just now and checking out the copious footnotes that I didn't have time for or access to, 55 years ago.According to your red lines, had Eliot been composing prose instead of poet-ry he would have had to acknowledge and acknowledge or else face litigation initiated by the publishers of Dante, Sheikh Speare, and The Holy Bible , among others.I'm sending this from my phone. Wish I could talk to you now
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Chidi,
What have we been talking about since the beginning of this thread which you started?
Yes, I’m aware of the phenomenon known as plagiarism, just as I’m aware that there is something known as PRV: The Swedish Intellectual Property Office
I’m also aware that some Black people accuse some White people of stealing their blues, stealing their rap, and as Sweet Baby James crooned,
“Now, ain't it good to know that you've got a friend
When people can be so cold?
They'll hurt you, yes, and desert you
And take your soul if you let them
Oh, but don't you let them”
You are crying because you wrote a rather ambitious essay “Poetry Evolution In Nigeria”, I mean ambitious in sheer scope ( I imagine it would be an equally daunting task to cover e.g. poetry evolution in Sweden - or in the Swedish language, not to mention the various, eloquent and poetic mother tongues that Nigeria is heir to and can boast of - of which Michael Afolayan has given us some insight and whet some appetites here
According to you, “some persons have been lifting phrases and ideas from the article without giving due credits.” -the article in this case meaning your article. All I asked was,”could Chidi give us just a few examples of “some persons have been lifting phrases and ideas from the article without giving due credits”?
But you haven’t done so, and instead of doing so, you are asking me some inane/insane questions such as “Does Plagiarism in your opinion exist? If yes, is it legally and morally wrong? What constitutes plagiarism?” -as if you’re talking to some kind of ecclesiast, some bishop or morality police constable. What’s the quarrel? What's your beef? Is it evil? If not, is it good?
You are crying about that single essay, no doubt your magnum opus in that academic genre. How do you think that the Ojogbons who have published a few dozen mighty tomes in peer review journals and have dozens of their original works published by eminent publishing houses such as Faber and Faber, how do you think that they feel when somebody borrows some of their worthy cogitations without as much as writing the Ogas and Ojogbons in question a thank you note in acknowledgement of their grand larceny?
And how do you know that what you said in that essay has never been said before, by someone else?? I read the occasional tome on politics and can’t help noticing a lot of recycled ideas, so recycled that they become mainstream, pedestrian
Jelly Roll Morton said that he invented jazz
I suppose that some clever Alec would then like to know who invented Jelly Roll Morton ?
On the same trajectory the regressus ad infinitum or the reductio ad absurdum if you will, is Pastor Sam the believer in a fit of infantile imagination asking the Chabad people the ultimate question: Who created God? Jesus? Astagfirullah
Plagiarism is a well-known phenomenon. Here are some notable plagiarism cases
Bob Dylan’s Nobel Lecture was accused of plagiarism, and this was widely publicised at the time
Some more of the Great African Music: Clifford Brown & Max Roach
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Chidi,
Ideas without borders :
What’s the origin of "steal a little and they throw you in jail, steal a lot and they make you king” - or steal a lot and they make you president?
In the year 2000 Bob Dylan was awarded the Polar Prize in Stockholm
On the menu :
literature: notable plagiarism cases
You hint darkly about “ some persons”. How many are they?
It seems that all they have been doing lately is reading and stealing’
“ lifting phrases and ideas from the article without giving due credits.”
Painful.
He who feels it knows.
Consider: When for example you say, “ Democracy is still the best form of choosing persons for governance because of its plurality.”,you surely don’t think that that's the first time that kind of idea has appeared in print or that they should jump up and give you credit for some originality in being such a great advocate of your brand of democracy./ crazy demo?
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