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Vodafone - if you don't make enough calls then you'll get cut off
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CJB
Nov 9, 2012, 10:25:44 AM11/9/12
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Then Vodaphone will not only reallocate your no. to another customer,
but you will also lose all credit on that no. Other mobile telcos have
similar T&Cs.
Frankly this is out right theft - but then the whole mobile industry
is riddled with such scams and fraud. Anyway see:
http://www.lovemoney.com/news/household-bills/mobile-phones/18212/vodafone-dont-make-enough-calls-cut-off
So if you have a spare phone for emergencies then use it at least once
every 180 days or so (check the T&Cs).
Also be warned that if you have a smart phone and only use this for
Skype calls (being 'smart' it will also do calls to the UK - unlike
Three's S2) then you will also be deemed not to be making enough
calls.
CJB.
but you will also lose all credit on that no. Other mobile telcos have
similar T&Cs.
Frankly this is out right theft - but then the whole mobile industry
is riddled with such scams and fraud. Anyway see:
http://www.lovemoney.com/news/household-bills/mobile-phones/18212/vodafone-dont-make-enough-calls-cut-off
So if you have a spare phone for emergencies then use it at least once
every 180 days or so (check the T&Cs).
Also be warned that if you have a smart phone and only use this for
Skype calls (being 'smart' it will also do calls to the UK - unlike
Three's S2) then you will also be deemed not to be making enough
calls.
CJB.
not...@nospam-thanks.me
Nov 9, 2012, 11:00:43 AM11/9/12
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On Fri, 9 Nov 2012 07:25:44 -0800 (PST), CJB <chris...@gmail.com>
wrote:
>Then Vodaphone will not only reallocate your no. to another customer,
>but you will also lose all credit on that no. Other mobile telcos have
>similar T&Cs.
>
>Frankly this is out right theft - but then the whole mobile industry
>is riddled with such scams and fraud. Anyway see:
I have a Spanish Vodafone SIM and what you say is true but you do get
a 3 month period of grace to top up before losing your number and
dosh.
It's even worse in Spain, in that you have to top up (not just make a
call) every six months to keep full functionality.
I won't use Vodafone in the UK but in Spain all the companies impose
the same conditions.
wrote:
>Then Vodaphone will not only reallocate your no. to another customer,
>but you will also lose all credit on that no. Other mobile telcos have
>similar T&Cs.
>
>Frankly this is out right theft - but then the whole mobile industry
>is riddled with such scams and fraud. Anyway see:
a 3 month period of grace to top up before losing your number and
dosh.
It's even worse in Spain, in that you have to top up (not just make a
call) every six months to keep full functionality.
I won't use Vodafone in the UK but in Spain all the companies impose
the same conditions.
Hugh - in either England or Spain
Nov 9, 2012, 12:48:23 PM11/9/12
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Use Giff Gaff in UK and Hits Mobile in Spain. Both require top-ups so I
diary them.
Peter Able
Nov 10, 2012, 11:46:39 AM11/10/12
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"CJB" <chris...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:4e0acd10-aebf-425f...@j12g2000vbm.googlegroups.com...
> Then Vodaphone will not only reallocate your no. to another customer,
> but you will also lose all credit on that no. Other mobile telcos have
> similar T&Cs.
>
> Frankly this is out right theft - but then the whole mobile industry
> is riddled with such scams and fraud.
Indeed. O2 PAYG demand that I make a chargeable call every six months, and
> but you will also lose all credit on that no. Other mobile telcos have
> similar T&Cs.
>
> Frankly this is out right theft - but then the whole mobile industry
> is riddled with such scams and fraud.
use up - on average - a penny a day.
If only I could buy off all my other creditors at a penny a day I'd be a
happy man!
PA
Dave Saville
Nov 10, 2012, 12:22:37 PM11/10/12
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This thread made me check the wife's mobile which has been switched
off for nearly a year due to illness. Still works and still has
credit. Virgin Mobile.
--
Regards
Dave Saville
off for nearly a year due to illness. Still works and still has
credit. Virgin Mobile.
--
Regards
Dave Saville
Graham.
Nov 10, 2012, 12:57:24 PM11/10/12
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On Sat, 10 Nov 2012 17:22:37 +0000 (UTC), "Dave Saville"
<da...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>This thread made me check the wife's mobile which has been switched
>off for nearly a year due to illness. Still works and still has
>credit. Virgin Mobile.
Here is my experience of a long dormant Virgin SIM
<da...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>This thread made me check the wife's mobile which has been switched
>off for nearly a year due to illness. Still works and still has
>credit. Virgin Mobile.
https://groups.google.com/d/topic/uk.telecom.mobile/h-3ODXD2XuM/discussion
--
Graham.
%Profound_observation%
Woody
Nov 10, 2012, 1:46:03 PM11/10/12
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"Peter Able" <stuck@home> wrote in message
news:lridnUJjjZVnGQPN...@brightview.co.uk...
You should be thankful that you only have to establish a
chargeable event - sending a text is cheapest.
In France the only way you can keep a number going is to top it
up - and that must be done every eight weeks or less. If you
don't you loose the number and the credit and you can't get it
back!
--
Woody
harrogate three at ntlworld dot com
news:lridnUJjjZVnGQPN...@brightview.co.uk...
chargeable event - sending a text is cheapest.
In France the only way you can keep a number going is to top it
up - and that must be done every eight weeks or less. If you
don't you loose the number and the credit and you can't get it
back!
--
Woody
harrogate three at ntlworld dot com
Timmy
Nov 10, 2012, 4:15:21 PM11/10/12
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CJB wrote ...
Orange insist customers make a call every 6 months. Must be new, as I
was sent a text about it in the last couple of weeks.
was sent a text about it in the last couple of weeks.
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Steve Terry
Nov 11, 2012, 12:41:10 PM11/11/12
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Peter wrote:
> "Dave Saville" <da...@invalid.invalid> wrote
>
It's so they can claim a higher subscription than really exists
>
> Especially if you have one of those no-longer-available ones which
> have an auto topup done by direct debit. Those never expire even if
> never used - evidently.
>
It's a contract, contracts don't expire
>
> Unfortunately Virgin are UK's most expensive network nowadays.
>
Simply 8 PAYG isn't bad
Steve Terry
--
Get a free GiffGaff PAYG Sim and �5 bonus after activation at:
http://giffgaff.com/orders/affiliate/gfourwwk
> "Dave Saville" <da...@invalid.invalid> wrote
>
>> This thread made me check the wife's mobile which has been switched
>> off for nearly a year due to illness. Still works and still has
>> credit. Virgin Mobile.
>
> Virgin have a long history of NOT cancelling unused SIMs.
>> This thread made me check the wife's mobile which has been switched
>> off for nearly a year due to illness. Still works and still has
>> credit. Virgin Mobile.
>
>
It's so they can claim a higher subscription than really exists
>
> Especially if you have one of those no-longer-available ones which
> have an auto topup done by direct debit. Those never expire even if
> never used - evidently.
>
It's a contract, contracts don't expire
>
> Unfortunately Virgin are UK's most expensive network nowadays.
>
Simply 8 PAYG isn't bad
Steve Terry
--
Get a free GiffGaff PAYG Sim and �5 bonus after activation at:
http://giffgaff.com/orders/affiliate/gfourwwk
Steve Terry
Nov 11, 2012, 12:46:18 PM11/11/12
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Peter wrote:
> "Woody" <harro...@ntlworld.spam.com> wrote
> found a way to get a local (French) PAYG SIM which gives you cheap
> data. You can do this at most places in Europe (e.g. Greece gives you
> ~2GB for ?15) but seemingly not France. I guess they do it only on
> contracts.
>
> A topup every 8 weeks is outrageous.
>
Originally Orange Just Talk was 50p per min, and credit lasted only
90days whether you used it or not.
> "Woody" <harro...@ntlworld.spam.com> wrote
>
>> In France the only way you can keep a number going is to top it
>> up - and that must be done every eight weeks or less. If you
>> don't you loose the number and the credit and you can't get it
>> back!
>
> France does all kinds of weird things. For example nobody has yet
>> In France the only way you can keep a number going is to top it
>> up - and that must be done every eight weeks or less. If you
>> don't you loose the number and the credit and you can't get it
>> back!
>
> found a way to get a local (French) PAYG SIM which gives you cheap
> data. You can do this at most places in Europe (e.g. Greece gives you
> ~2GB for ?15) but seemingly not France. I guess they do it only on
> contracts.
>
> A topup every 8 weeks is outrageous.
>
Originally Orange Just Talk was 50p per min, and credit lasted only
90days whether you used it or not.
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Chris Blunt
Nov 12, 2012, 11:01:36 PM11/12/12
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better if the networks simply debited the balance with the required
minimum every few months rather than terminating the account. That way
the customer doesn't need to remember to turn on the phone and make an
unnecessary call just to keep the account alive.
Only when the entire outstanding balance had been consumed would they
need to cancel the account.
Chris
Chris Blunt
Nov 12, 2012, 11:01:36 PM11/12/12
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On Sun, 11 Nov 2012 17:41:10 -0000, "Steve Terry" <gfou...@tesco.net>
wrote:
>>
>> Especially if you have one of those no-longer-available ones which
>> have an auto topup done by direct debit. Those never expire even if
>> never used - evidently.
>>
>It's a contract, contracts don't expire
Of course contracts can expire. They can come to the end of their
specified life or they can be terminated early according to the terms
contained with the contract itself.
Chris
wrote:
>>
>> Especially if you have one of those no-longer-available ones which
>> have an auto topup done by direct debit. Those never expire even if
>> never used - evidently.
>>
>It's a contract, contracts don't expire
specified life or they can be terminated early according to the terms
contained with the contract itself.
Chris
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Señor Madera
Nov 13, 2012, 11:27:16 AM11/13/12
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On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 12:01:36 +0800, Chris Blunt <ma...@nospam.com>
wrote:
>Of course contracts can expire. They can come to the end of their
>specified life or they can be terminated early according to the terms
>contained with the contract itself.
Technically, the contract hasn't expired, it has merely reached it's
minimum term.
The provider is still obliged to provide you with the contractual
obligations until such time as the contract is cancelled by either
party.
wrote:
>Of course contracts can expire. They can come to the end of their
>specified life or they can be terminated early according to the terms
>contained with the contract itself.
minimum term.
The provider is still obliged to provide you with the contractual
obligations until such time as the contract is cancelled by either
party.
Chris Blunt
Nov 13, 2012, 11:58:14 PM11/13/12
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was for a fixed term then it would expire naturally at the end of that
term. Neither party would have any obligations after that.
Chris
CJB
Nov 14, 2012, 7:40:55 PM11/14/12
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On Nov 13, 4:01 am, Chris Blunt <m...@nospam.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 10 Nov 2012 21:15:21 -0000, Timmy <Ti...@to.ms> wrote:
> >CJB wrote ...
>
> >> Then Vodaphone will not only reallocate your no. to another customer,
> >> but you will also lose all credit on that no. Other mobile telcos have
> >> similar T&Cs.
>
> >> Frankly this is out right theft - but then the whole mobile industry
> >> is riddled with such scams and fraud. Anyway see:
>
> >>http://www.lovemoney.com/news/household-bills/mobile-phones/18212/vod...
> On Sat, 10 Nov 2012 21:15:21 -0000, Timmy <Ti...@to.ms> wrote:
> >CJB wrote ...
>
> >> Then Vodaphone will not only reallocate your no. to another customer,
> >> but you will also lose all credit on that no. Other mobile telcos have
> >> similar T&Cs.
>
> >> Frankly this is out right theft - but then the whole mobile industry
> >> is riddled with such scams and fraud. Anyway see:
>
>
> >> So if you have a spare phone for emergencies then use it at least once
> >> every 180 days or so (check the T&Cs).
>
> >> Also be warned that if you have a smart phone and only use this for
> >> Skype calls (being 'smart' it will also do calls to the UK - unlike
> >> Three's S2) then you will also be deemed not to be making enough
> >> calls.
>
> >> CJB.
>
> >Orange insist customers make a call every 6 months. Must be new, as I
> >was sent a text about it in the last couple of weeks.
>
> If no calls had been made within a certain time period, it might be
> better if the networks simply debited the balance with the required
> minimum every few months rather than terminating the account. That way
> the customer doesn't need to remember to turn on the phone and make an
> unnecessary call just to keep the account alive.
>
> Only when the entire outstanding balance had been consumed would they
> need to cancel the account.
>
> Chris
More here:
> >> So if you have a spare phone for emergencies then use it at least once
> >> every 180 days or so (check the T&Cs).
>
> >> Also be warned that if you have a smart phone and only use this for
> >> Skype calls (being 'smart' it will also do calls to the UK - unlike
> >> Three's S2) then you will also be deemed not to be making enough
> >> calls.
>
> >> CJB.
>
> >Orange insist customers make a call every 6 months. Must be new, as I
> >was sent a text about it in the last couple of weeks.
>
> If no calls had been made within a certain time period, it might be
> better if the networks simply debited the balance with the required
> minimum every few months rather than terminating the account. That way
> the customer doesn't need to remember to turn on the phone and make an
> unnecessary call just to keep the account alive.
>
> Only when the entire outstanding balance had been consumed would they
> need to cancel the account.
>
> Chris
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/vodafone-cuts-off-customers-for--not-using-phones-enough-.html
CJB
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