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Pontus Berg

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May 12, 2022, 6:04:54 PMMay 12
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It seems no matter how I do I run into problems of the movie section of TVR;

The Series, I add the series manually, a directory is created and then the episodes go under there. Easy peasy.

But movies, I still haven't really figured out how to do that properly. 

What I normally do is take the "acquired" directory, rename it to "the name of the movie [YEAR]" and then move it to the repository on the NAS. Then add it to the TVR database using bulk add. The result generally looks ok, but scanning movies it seems the proper name is not always the one I had given (year is commonly one off), so several times the directory name is in the manual section of the edit requester. Scanning creates a new directory, which it downloads a fanart item to. Now that it's not empty, the directory isn't deleted. Running Radarr as well, that program gets confused and think I have two instances of the same film. And I have to sort out the situation manually. (At least I think this what happens - I have cases with newly added movies which has an almost identical directory with the fanart.jpg file in it)

As an alternate approach, moving the file from the download directory to a temp directory before issuing the movie scanner also doesn't work for me. Then I need to manually add the name of the movie, whereafter the scanner will look for it.

I have said it before but I would be most keen to have the options, to have the program 
1) give a shortcut button to rename the directory to the automatic name. Migrate all files to a directory with the proper default name and delete the now empty manual directories with the wrong name.
2) look in the temp directory for new file, and if found create the directory and move the file to it. (That is the same as rename and move, which ever feels the easiest).

In general, I want automation to ensure that the directory name is also the correct one, i.e. the one the program assumes is the default. 

Sparky53

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Jun 12, 2022, 8:43:18 PMJun 12
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Generally I let TVR copy movie files onto the Library

Have you tried using Search Folders and 'Auto add' (configurable under Preferneces -> Search Folders -> Auto Add Movies...)
 - When TVR finds video files in the Search folders that don't match items in the library it will try and work out whether it is a movie or TV show and prompt you to add it to the library
 - It will then move it to the correct place in the library

TVR should identify that a movie has had its release date changed and hence year changed and rename the files / folders appropriately (assuming it moved by one year only)

Pontus Berg

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Jun 13, 2022, 1:16:02 PMJun 13
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I have a Auto Add directory. That works fine for TV Shows. But I will have another look.

Sparky53

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Jun 13, 2022, 10:49:23 PMJun 13
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So there are two parts to this:

New movies: Copy to a search folder. TVR then picks this up with 'Auto-Add'. If it does this then it uses the automatic folders and tries to keep them aligned. If you find it is doing this wrong in some way, then let me know.

Existing ones: If you are not happy that the movie has been setup in the way you want it to be, then 'Settings Check' is designed to identify non-standard configuration and change it if needed. If they are added manually and found using 'Bulk Add' TVR tries to accomadate the folder names you have used. (ie it uses them as manual folders). Settings check may need to be enhanced to further assist moving from 'manual folders' to automated. If you can give a detailed example, we can check to see how/if it needs t obe improved.

Pontus Berg

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Jun 14, 2022, 5:32:05 AMJun 14
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tisdag 14 juni 2022 kl. 04:49:23 UTC+2 skrev Sparky53:
So there are two parts to this:

New movies: Copy to a search folder. TVR then picks this up with 'Auto-Add'. If it does this then it uses the automatic folders and tries to keep them aligned. If you find it is doing this wrong in some way, then let me know.

I do this for TV shows (placing the video file directly in the search folder root - works fine). Movies I have placed there with the directory included - and they seem not to be picked up. Is there a restriction that the video must be directly in the root of the search folder? I have cases where there are subtitles in a subfolder of the movie folder, and I can't place that in the root. (Edit: Running the scanner, it picked up one of the three movies I had in separate subfolders of the search folder)
 
Existing ones: If you are not happy that the movie has been setup in the way you want it to be, then 'Settings Check' is designed to identify non-standard configuration and change it if needed. If they are added manually and found using 'Bulk Add' TVR tries to accomadate the folder names you have used. (ie it uses them as manual folders). Settings check may need to be enhanced to further assist moving from 'manual folders' to automated. If you can give a detailed example, we can check to see how/if it needs t obe improved.

I had a real life example here:


As referenced, there are a few things here that I feel would improve my experience (and I am arrogant enough to believe that this could help others as well of course :-)

For the case where adding files:
* Offer the option (or have the setting) that all and any movie added (via bulk add or found in a subfolder of the search folder) to be given a folder with the proper automatic name in the repo (create folder and move files, or move and rename the folder). This to ensure that all and any movie added, stand the biggest chance of having the directory name that corresponds with the automatic definition.

For the case of cleaning the database for anomalies:
* For the Check Setting + Fix for custom folder should rename the folder to the automatic name.
* The Edit function should a) have a quick button to rename the custom named folder to the automatic name or b) move data to a folder with the automatic name (I do understand that there are complications if that one already exists and contains files). I guess this function could be the same as the one called from the check setting fix.
* In the Edit, if you select a custom language, that changes the automatic folder name. The video folder should then also be properly renamed correspondingly.

There is a Preference -> Search folder option that says "Use Name of Search Folder when searching for a match between file and media" - is that a function that would use the name of a subfolder? As stated - using the static name of the actual search folder - I can't see how that would ever help. (I have that disabled)

Sparky53

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Jun 14, 2022, 9:01:20 AMJun 14
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Re "I do this for TV shows (placing the video file directly in the search folder root - works fine). Movies I have placed there with the directory included - and they seem not to be picked up. Is there a restriction that the video must be directly in the root of the search folder? I have cases where there are subtitles in a subfolder of the movie folder, and I can't place that in the root. (Edit: Running the scanner, it picked up one of the three movies I had in separate subfolders of the search folder)"

Can you share the examples where this didn't work. TVR is designed to have this process as similar as possible to the TV equivalent.

Sparky53

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Jun 14, 2022, 11:53:25 PMJun 14
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To fix the movies that have been created with the 'wrong' setup, 'Settings Check / Settings Review' should be the toll to use.

Sounds like you want all movies to use the automatic folders.

The "Use manual folders" check is the one that should identify and fix the issue. It looks for the use of manual folders and switches them to automatic ones (and copies across any files)

The code for that is here:

If you try Settings Check and find the "Use manual folders" section, what happens when you try and right click and 'fix'? If the system cannot easily resolve it, then it will alert you about why.
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