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Wallace, Ralph
I appreciate the advice John. I found a supplier of the closure hardware Quantratec 1-800-745-2348
They did have a supplier that had the parts.
Not received yet but delivery is scheduled for this week. I will let you know if there is any problem
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- Aft Cabin Rear windows [4 Updates]
Topic: Aft Cabin Rear windows
"John Maring" <jwma...@sbcglobal.net> Jun 12 03:43PM -0400 ^
John,
I recently reworked the windows in my 30' and found out it is VERY important
to get the proper thickness of gasket material when re installing the window
and frame.
The gasket material which I and referring to is the outside (boat to window
frame), because of the channel which the screws go into.
If the gasket is to thick, the screws will not seat. If it is to thin, they
will bottom out and will not properly seat as well.
I, lets say, found it out the hard way having to try out various gasket
materials, grinding down the length of the screws and also squeezing the
channel to tighten the screw to draw up the window to properly seat and keep
the water out.
Squeezing the channel slightly, after finding the proper thickness of gasket
was the best way to draw the window frame tight.
John Maring
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From: tollycra...@googlegroups.com
[mailto:tollycra...@googlegroups.com]On Behalf Of john nugent
Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 6:29 AM
To: tollycra...@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Aft Cabin Rear windows
Thank you, I'll give them a call
John
--- On Mon, 5/30/11, Dennis Marks <dma...@cunninghamrivard.net>
wrote:
From: Dennis Marks <dma...@cunninghamrivard.net>
Subject: RE: Aft Cabin Rear windows
To: tollycra...@googlegroups.com
Date: Monday, May 30, 2011, 12:49 PM
Try Diamond Sea Glaze windows in Vancouver (Langley) BC.
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From: tollycra...@googlegroups.com
[mailto:tollycra...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bob and Diane Hansen
Sent: Monday, May 30, 2011 8:35 AM
To: tollycra...@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Aft Cabin Rear windows
Jeff Kemp - Motion Windows, Vancouver WA -
http://www.motionwindows.com/
From: tollycra...@googlegroups.com
[mailto:tollycra...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Wallace, Ralph
Sent: Monday, May 30, 2011 7:38 AM
To: tollycra...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Aft Cabin Rear windows
Does anyone know where I can get parts for the rear window closure
hardware on a 44’ Tolly ?
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Roy Orjala <dror...@gmail.com> Jun 12 08:14PM -0400 ^
John, what material are you referring to? I'm in the process of re-doing my
windows on an '88 30-ft tolly and all I'm using to put them in is 3M 4200 UV
fast cure with a v-notch caulk tube. Am I missing something? Roy
"John Maring" <jwma...@sbcglobal.net> Jun 13 09:43AM -0400 ^
Hi Roy,
I needed to replace the u channel felt material and in order to do that, I
needed to remove the complete window and frame.
Following the replacement of the u channel, and in reinstalling the window
into the boat, a closed cell foam gasket was needed to properly seal between
the window frame and the out side of the boat.
If the gasket is to thin the screws will bottom out and you can not draw the
window frame tight enough to the boat to properly seal it and of course the
reverse is true if it is overly thick.
In the past I have used 4200 and if you ever need to remove the item glued,
you can have a real challenge in doing so.
I can not remember the thickness of the foam gasket but I would get some
small samples and find out which one will let you draw the window tight
without bottoming out the screws.
I found some gasket material in the garage and one is 1/2 " wide and 3/16 "
thick. The other is 1 1/4 " wide, I think it is to wide, and 1/4 " thick. I
think I used the thicker material because I can squeeze the frame into the
opening better than bottoming out the screws.
Squeezing the screw channel is also a challenge because you do not want to
strip the phillips head insert, I used, right or wrong, a ratchet with a
phillips head socket to get the screws tight enough.
So far I have no leaks around the windows.
The next challenge will be to replace the gasket material around the front
windows due the the gasket pulling away from the corners on the bottom of
the window.
This has been my experience and if anyone has tried something different,
please let me know. I would like to find someone from the factory who did
the window installations the way they did it originally
-----Original Message-----
From: tollycra...@googlegroups.com
[mailto:tollycra...@googlegroups.com]On Behalf Of Roy Orjala
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2011 8:15 PM
To: tollycra...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Aft Cabin Rear windows
John, what material are you referring to? I'm in the process of re-doing
my windows on an '88 30-ft tolly and all I'm using to put them in is 3M 4200
UV fast cure with a v-notch caulk tube. Am I missing something? Roy
On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 3:43 PM, John Maring <jwma...@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
John,
I recently reworked the windows in my 30' and found out it is VERY
important to get the proper thickness of gasket material when re installing
the window and frame.
The gasket material which I and referring to is the outside (boat to
window frame), because of the channel which the screws go into.
If the gasket is to thick, the screws will not seat. If it is to thin,
they will bottom out and will not properly seat as well.
I, lets say, found it out the hard way having to try out various gasket
materials, grinding down the length of the screws and also squeezing the
channel to tighten the screw to draw up the window to properly seat and keep
the water out.
Squeezing the channel slightly, after finding the proper thickness of
gasket was the best way to draw the window frame tight.
John Maring
-----Original Message-----
From: tollycra...@googlegroups.com
[mailto:tollycra...@googlegroups.com]On Behalf Of john nugent
Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 6:29 AM
To: tollycra...@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Aft Cabin Rear windows
Thank you, I'll give them a call
John
--- On Mon, 5/30/11, Dennis Marks <dma...@cunninghamrivard.net>
wrote:
From: Dennis Marks <dma...@cunninghamrivard.net>
Subject: RE: Aft Cabin Rear windows
To: tollycra...@googlegroups.com
Date: Monday, May 30, 2011, 12:49 PM
Try Diamond Sea Glaze windows in Vancouver (Langley) BC.
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[mailto:tollycra...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bob and Diane Hansen
Sent: Monday, May 30, 2011 8:35 AM
To: tollycra...@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Aft Cabin Rear windows
Jeff Kemp - Motion Windows, Vancouver WA -
http://www.motionwindows.com/
From: tollycra...@googlegroups.com
[mailto:tollycra...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Wallace, Ralph
Sent: Monday, May 30, 2011 7:38 AM
To: tollycra...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Aft Cabin Rear windows
Does anyone know where I can get parts for the rear window
closure hardware on a 44’ Tolly ?
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"je...@jeffmoss.com" <je...@jeffmoss.com> Jun 13 08:26AM -0700 ^
Did you ask Gordon at Resources Intl?
Jeff Moss
Tel: 415.456.2566
On Jun 13, 2011, at 6:43 AM, "John Maring" <jwma...@sbcglobal.net<mailto:jwma...@sbcglobal.net>> wrote:
Hi Roy,
I needed to replace the u channel felt material and in order to do that, I needed to remove the complete window and frame.
Following the replacement of the u channel, and in reinstalling the window into the boat, a closed cell foam gasket was needed to properly seal between the window frame and the out side of the boat.
If the gasket is to thin the screws will bottom out and you can not draw the window frame tight enough to the boat to properly seal it and of course the reverse is true if it is overly thick.
In the past I have used 4200 and if you ever need to remove the item glued, you can have a real challenge in doing so.
I can not remember the thickness of the foam gasket but I would get some small samples and find out which one will let you draw the window tight without bottoming out the screws.
I found some gasket material in the garage and one is 1/2 " wide and 3/16 " thick. The other is 1 1/4 " wide, I think it is to wide, and 1/4 " thick. I think I used the thicker material because I can squeeze the frame into the opening better than bottoming
out the screws.
Squeezing the screw channel is also a challenge because you do not want to strip the phillips head insert, I used, right or wrong, a ratchet with a phillips head socket to get the screws tight enough.
So far I have no leaks around the windows.
The next challenge will be to replace the gasket material around the front windows due the the gasket pulling away from the corners on the bottom of the window.
This has been my experience and if anyone has tried something different, please let me know. I would like to find someone from the factory who did the window installations the way they did it originally
-----Original Message-----
From: tollycra...@googlegroups.com<mailto:tollycra...@googlegroups.com> [mailto:tollycra...@googlegroups.com]On Behalf Of Roy Orjala
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2011 8:15 PM
To: <mailto:tollycra...@googlegroups.com> tollycra...@googlegroups.com<mailto:tollycra...@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Aft Cabin Rear windows
John, what material are you referring to? I'm in the process of re-doing my windows on an '88 30-ft tolly and all I'm using to put them in is 3M 4200 UV fast cure with a v-notch caulk tube. Am I missing something? Roy
On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 3:43 PM, John Maring <<mailto:jwma...@sbcglobal.net>jwma...@sbcglobal.net<mailto:jwma...@sbcglobal.net>> wrote:
John,
I recently reworked the windows in my 30' and found out it is VERY important to get the proper thickness of gasket material when re installing the window and frame.
The gasket material which I and referring to is the outside (boat to window frame), because of the channel which the screws go into.
If the gasket is to thick, the screws will not seat. If it is to thin, they will bottom out and will not properly seat as well.
I, lets say, found it out the hard way having to try out various gasket materials, grinding down the length of the screws and also squeezing the channel to tighten the screw to draw up the window to properly seat and keep the water out.
Squeezing the channel slightly, after finding the proper thickness of gasket was the best way to draw the window frame tight.
John Maring
-----Original Message-----
From: <mailto:tollycra...@googlegroups.com> tollycra...@googlegroups.com<mailto:tollycra...@googlegroups.com> [mailto:<mailto:tollycra...@googlegroups.com>tollycra...@googlegroups.com<mailto:tollycra...@googlegroups.com>]On Behalf
Of john nugent
Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 6:29 AM
To: <mailto:tollycra...@googlegroups.com> tollycra...@googlegroups.com<mailto:tollycra...@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Aft Cabin Rear windows
Thank you, I'll give them a call
John
--- On Mon, 5/30/11, Dennis Marks <<mailto:dma...@cunninghamrivard.net>dma...@cunninghamrivard.net<mailto:dma...@cunninghamrivard.net>> wrote:
From: Dennis Marks <<mailto:dma...@cunninghamrivard.net>dma...@cunninghamrivard.net<mailto:dma...@cunninghamrivard.net>>
Subject: RE: Aft Cabin Rear windows
To: <mailto:tollycra...@googlegroups.com> tollycra...@googlegroups.com<mailto:tollycra...@googlegroups.com>
Date: Monday, May 30, 2011, 12:49 PM
Try Diamond Sea Glaze windows in Vancouver (Langley) BC.
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From: <mailto:tollycra...@googlegroups.com> tollycra...@googlegroups.com<mailto:tollycra...@googlegroups.com> [mailto:<mailto:tollycra...@googlegroups.com>tollycra...@googlegroups.com<mailto:tollycra...@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf
Of Bob and Diane Hansen
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To: <mailto:tollycra...@googlegroups.com> tollycra...@googlegroups.com<mailto:tollycra...@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Aft Cabin Rear windows
Jeff Kemp - Motion Windows, Vancouver WA - <http://www.motionwindows.com/>
http://www.motionwindows.com/
From: <mailto:tollycra...@googlegroups.com> tollycra...@googlegroups.com<mailto:tollycra...@googlegroups.com> [mailto:<mailto:tollycra...@googlegroups.com>tollycra...@googlegroups.com<mailto:tollycra...@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf
Of Wallace, Ralph
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Subject: Aft Cabin Rear windows
Does anyone know where I can get parts for the rear window closure hardware on a 44’ Tolly ?
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