RE: [Tithing & Stewardship Group] Does God Curse Tithing?

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My point exactly, there is no denomination in the Kingdom of God and that applies to the Catholic group as well. Jesus is King not the pope. My faith rest upon Jesus Christ and Jesus Christ alone. Anything that takes prominence from Jesus is not of God.

 

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What denomination? Jesus has blessed his only Church, Catholic Church.Matthew 16:18-19. You guys don't even have a place of your own for your services. Jesus has blessed the catholic church with immence wealth, monument,cathedrals,hospitals,schools ,colleges ,homes for the aged,children and what not. You guys go round saying building...denomination.....where did Jesus talk about denomination?

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Amen brother, couldn't have said it better myself. Church people love their denominational building more than they do in helping the poor outside the church doors, totally opposite to what Jesus did, oh well, too each is their own I suppose.

 

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Here is a list of 5 Curses you receive for being a tither. and 5 Blessings you receive for not being a tither

 

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Amen, Jesus is the Church!!

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Jesus is the head of the church! The church is the body of Christ! The church is the bride!

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Amen, Jesus is the Church!!
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Jesus is the Church
 
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My point exactly, there is no denomination in the Kingdom of God and that applies to the Catholic group as well. Jesus is King not the pope. My faith rest upon Jesus Christ and Jesus Christ alone. Anything that takes prominence from Jesus is not of God.
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What denomination? Jesus has blessed his only Church, Catholic Church.Matthew 16:18-19. You guys don't even have a place of your own for your services. Jesus has blessed the catholic church with immence wealth, monument,cathedrals,hospitals,schools ,colleges ,homes for the aged,children and what not. You guys go round saying building...denomination.....where did Jesus talk about denomination?
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Amen brother, couldn't have said it better myself. Church people love their denominational building more than they do in helping the poor outside the church doors, totally opposite to what Jesus did, oh well, too each is their own I suppose.
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Let's make sure this group stays on topic with finances, stewardship, & giving.

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I need some scriptures backing up why we ought not to pay tithe please Brethren?


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Let's make sure this group stays on topic with finances, stewardship, & giving.

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PLEASE, ALL THAT YOU HAVE SAY IS GOOD AND TRUE.
THESE ARE THE WORDS OF THE TRUE WORSHIP. GOD BLESS YOU.



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2 Corinthians 9:6-7

English Standard Version (ESV)

The Cheerful Giver

The point is this: whoever sows sparingly will also reap sparingly, and whoever sows bountifully[a] will also reap bountifully. Each one must give as he has decided in his heart, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver. STUDY THE WORK COMPULSION.


TITHE IS NOT GIVING IT'S MANDATORY WITH CONSEQUENCES IF A PERSON DOES NOT. THE TITHE WAS NEVER ABOUT MONEY IN BIBLE. IF YOU CAN GIVE 50% WITH A CHEERFUL HEART GIVE IT.


THINK ABOUT THE PEOPLE OUTSIDE THE CHURCH DOORS THAT NEED HELP AND PEOPLE PASS THEM UP BECAUSE OF THE 10% TITHE. MAN HAS CORRUPTED THE TITHE BECAUSE OF PERSONAL GREED, YOU KNOW THE SERMONS, ALWAYS EASY TO FIGURE OUT WHEN MONEY IS NEEDED.

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This is a great video on Tithing.  You will be stunned at the opening statement "Tithing is Sin for a Christian"


Blessings, 

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I need some scriptures backing up why we ought not to pay tithe please Brethren?


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Greg Couch

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Very true. Every time you drop 10% in the mandatory offering plate you are smacking Jesus Christ in the face. READ II Corinthians 9:7, it's very plain in meaning.
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Many are bound by the law of tithing, what did Jesus say in Galatians 5? Be free brother and sisters, give with a cheerful heart and God will be honored.
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I agree, nobody should be constricted to giving a mere tithe when our Lord, Apostles, and early church set the example of sacrificial giving! Even Zaccheus gave 50% plus generous reparations for past greediness!
Tithing is simply training wheels intended as it Is stated in Gal 3:24  Therefore the Law has become our tutor to lead us to Christ...
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Greg Couch

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Really sad how some preachers chastise young Christians about tithing. "Study To Show Thyself Approved" Timothy 2:15 

Greg Couch

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One last thing on this subject: The Church pay's ZERO taxes to the government but condemns the sheep for not paying a tithe. If you can't see there is something wrong with this picture you have problems. Jesus paid taxes and worked for a living just like Apostle Paul. Jesus calls men that get paid to preach the Gospel, "Hirelings" Church people today want someone to tell them what is right and wrong so they don't have to be accountable themselves.   
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I pray just one person is freed from the bondage of tithing and allows the spirit of God to control how he or she gives.
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We are in the age of raging deception.
2 Peter 2
But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who secretly shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. 2 And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of which the way of truth shall be evil spoken of. 3 And through covetousness shall they with deceptive words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time will not linger, and their damnation will not slumber.
1 Peter 5:2
Shepherd the flock of God which is among you, serving as overseers, not by compulsion but willingly, not for dishonest gain but eagerly; 3 nor as being lords over those entrusted to you, but being examples to the flock.
 Titus 1:10-12
10 For there are many insubordinate, both idle talkers and deceivers, especially those of the circumcision, 11 whose mouths must be stopped, who subvert whole households, teaching things which they ought not, for the sake of dishonest gain. 12 One of them, a prophet of their own, said, “Cretans are always liars, evil beasts, lazy gluttons.”
1 Timothy 6:1-6
… 4 he is proud, knowing nothing, but is obsessed with disputes and arguments over words, from which come envy, strife, reviling, evil suspicions, 5 useless wranglings of men of corrupt minds and destitute of the truth, who suppose that godliness is a means of gain. From such withdraw yourself.
2 Thessalonians 2:10-12
…. 10 and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie, 12 that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

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I pray just one person is freed from the bondage of tithing and allows the spirit of God to control how he or she gives.
On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 11:45 AM, Greg Couch <gcou...@gmail.com> wrote:
One last thing on this subject: The Church pay's ZERO taxes to the government but condemns the sheep for not paying a tithe. If you can't see there is something wrong with this picture you have problems. Jesus paid taxes and worked for a living just like Apostle Paul. Jesus calls men that get paid to preach the Gospel, "Hirelings" Church people today want someone to tell them what is right and wrong so they don't have to be accountable themselves.   
On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 1:59 PM, Greg Couch <gcou...@gmail.com> wrote:
Really sad how some preachers chastise young Christians about tithing. "Study To Show Thyself Approved" Timothy 2:15 
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I agree, nobody should be constricted to giving a mere tithe when our Lord, Apostles, and early church set the example of sacrificial giving! Even Zaccheus gave 50% plus generous reparations for past greediness!
Tithing is simply training wheels intended as it Is stated in Gal 3:24  Therefore the Law has become our tutor to lead us to Christ...
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Subject: Re: [Tithing & Stewardship Group] Does God Curse Tithing?

Many are bound by the law of tithing, what did Jesus say in Galatians 5? Be free brother and sisters, give with a cheerful heart and God will be honored.
On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 12:26 PM, Greg Couch <gcou...@gmail.com> wrote:
Very true. Every time you drop 10% in the mandatory offering plate you are smacking Jesus Christ in the face. READ II Corinthians 9:7, it's very plain in meaning.
On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 10:38 AM, indiechurch.org <phillip...@gmail.com> wrote:
This is a great video on Tithing.  You will be stunned at the opening statement "Tithing is Sin for a Christian"


Blessings, 

Randolph
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I need some scriptures backing up why we ought not to pay tithe please Brethren?

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Let's make sure this group stays on topic with finances, stewardship, & giving.

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Annie Johnson

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given your money to the church is suppose to help it grow and to be able to help others

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Shepherd the flock of God which is among you, serving as overseers, not by compulsion but willingly, not for dishonest gain but eagerly; 3 nor as being lords over those entrusted to you, but being examples to the flock.

Willingly, eliminated the majority of Sunday Showman from the roster. "Pastor" doesn't mean you have to stand behind a pulpit week after week and be the star attraction, actually, totally opposite from that. Jesus Christ should be the focus of every Christian 24/7, II Timothy 2:15, dishonest gain has took front seat in the modern church, and the majority of Christians follow along each and every week contributing to the ungodly behavior. Today is the day of salvation and unless the Holy Spirit saves you, there is no salvation. 
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Greg Couch

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Annie, the church isn't a building or a Preacher in a three-piece suit acting as if he's God, the church is anyone, black, white, rich or poor that is washed in the blood of Jesus Christ. Jesus isn't coming back to get the Baptist, Church of God, he's coming back to get his bride, the saved!

The men of old worked for a living and Paul said he was a burden to NO ONE.
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Mar 10, 2013, 1:05:28 PM3/10/13
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Plenty of 3 piece suit Pastors in US and UK.Living on tithes and offerings and owning huge property,planes and what not.
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Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2013 10:22:25 -0400

Greg Couch

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Mar 10, 2013, 1:08:30 PM3/10/13
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And poor people in the pews starving to death.

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Mar 10, 2013, 1:09:11 PM3/10/13
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You need a building to worship,teach children,keep the music system ,a place for the old and orphans. You need not be jealous of Catholics for their buildings.
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Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2013 10:22:25 -0400

Greg Couch

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Mar 10, 2013, 1:10:20 PM3/10/13
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I worship Jesus not a building no need for hail mary here.

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Mar 10, 2013, 1:27:13 PM3/10/13
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Do you evev say the Lords prayer. Is it a cult?
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Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2013 13:10:20 -0400

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There's nothing wrong with a building - the things of earth are a metaphorical copy of the things in heaven:

2Cor 5:1 For we know that if our earthly house, this tent, is destroyed, we have a building from God, a house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens.

Heb 8:5 who serve the copy and shadow of the heavenly things, as Moses was divinely instructed when he was about to make the tabernacle. For He said, “See that you make all things according to the pattern shown you on the mountain.”

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From: Greg Couch <gcou...@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2013 13:10:20 -0400

Greg Couch

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Mar 10, 2013, 1:30:03 PM3/10/13
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Everyday.  I'm only saying for me my focus is Jesus Christ and the work of the cross, not mary or the pope.