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RonO

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Oct 27, 2021, 7:00:16 PM10/27/21
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Has Kalkidas been a pretender all these years. He now seems to be
claiming to be a Christian creationist IDiot.

https://groups.google.com/g/talk.origins/c/j21IhIYLKvg/m/kjx10cOpAAAJ

The following quote comes after his indirect claims that he knows what
it is like to be a Christian creationist in his previous post.

QUOTE:
I have never pretended nor claimed to be a "Hindu" or a "Sikh". I
challenge you to produce a post in which I did. If you cannot do so, I
suggest you brush up on your reading comprehension skills.

Until then. Ta ta.
END QUOTE:

His nym and his use of the Vedas to try to lend a different perspective
on the ID creationist scam seem to have all been a ruse.

It isn't like it wasn't suspected that he wasn't a Hindu or Sikh because
he wasn't as into that religion as the other Hindu creationists that we
have had on TO. I used to suspect that Kalk's account was being used by
several different IDiots, now I wonder what the others are going to
think about this Kalk blowing their cover. The only way that Kalk's
quote above could be true is if he isn't the Kalk that created the
account with that nym and isn't the one that kept putting up material
from the Vedas all these years. As I noted the Hindu Shtick wasn't
really believable, but that doesn't mean that he didn't try. Kalk may
just have multiple personality disorder.

Kalk has been an IDiot since he started posting on TO. I do not recall
Kalk ever claiming to be a Christian creationist, but now he claims that
he never pretended nor claimed to be a Hindu or a Sikh. Kalk ran from
the Top Six when it was put out 4 years ago, and like Glenn started
going back to the ID perps for second rate ID scam junk, but unlike
Glenn, Kalk realized how stupid and dishonest that was and he quit doing
it. Recently Kalk claimed that he found creation science boring, but he
started to go back to the ID perps for second rate ID scam junk again.

Isn't this pretty much par for the ID scam? Really, how many years has
Kalk's account been active on TO?

Ron Okimoto

Bob Casanova

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Oct 27, 2021, 8:50:16 PM10/27/21
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On Wed, 27 Oct 2021 18:00:00 -0500, the following appeared
in talk.origins, posted by RonO <roki...@cox.net>:

>Has Kalkidas been a pretender all these years. He now seems to be
>claiming to be a Christian creationist IDiot.
>
>https://groups.google.com/g/talk.origins/c/j21IhIYLKvg/m/kjx10cOpAAAJ
>
>The following quote comes after his indirect claims that he knows what
>it is like to be a Christian creationist in his previous post.
>
>QUOTE:
>I have never pretended nor claimed to be a "Hindu" or a "Sikh". I
>challenge you to produce a post in which I did. If you cannot do so, I
>suggest you brush up on your reading comprehension skills.
>
>Until then. Ta ta.
>END QUOTE:
>
>His nym and his use of the Vedas to try to lend a different perspective
>on the ID creationist scam seem to have all been a ruse.
>
Ignore him; his denial, with his frequent reference to the
Vedas, doesn't exactly ring true.
>
>It isn't like it wasn't suspected that he wasn't a Hindu or Sikh because
>he wasn't as into that religion as the other Hindu creationists that we
>have had on TO. I used to suspect that Kalk's account was being used by
>several different IDiots, now I wonder what the others are going to
>think about this Kalk blowing their cover. The only way that Kalk's
>quote above could be true is if he isn't the Kalk that created the
>account with that nym and isn't the one that kept putting up material
>from the Vedas all these years. As I noted the Hindu Shtick wasn't
>really believable, but that doesn't mean that he didn't try. Kalk may
>just have multiple personality disorder.
>
>Kalk has been an IDiot since he started posting on TO. I do not recall
>Kalk ever claiming to be a Christian creationist, but now he claims that
>he never pretended nor claimed to be a Hindu or a Sikh. Kalk ran from
>the Top Six when it was put out 4 years ago, and like Glenn started
>going back to the ID perps for second rate ID scam junk, but unlike
>Glenn, Kalk realized how stupid and dishonest that was and he quit doing
>it. Recently Kalk claimed that he found creation science boring, but he
>started to go back to the ID perps for second rate ID scam junk again.
>
>Isn't this pretty much par for the ID scam? Really, how many years has
>Kalk's account been active on TO?
>
Does anyone really care?
>
--

Bob C.

"The most exciting phrase to hear in science,
the one that heralds new discoveries, is not
'Eureka!' but 'That's funny...'"

- Isaac Asimov

Glenn

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Oct 27, 2021, 11:25:16 PM10/27/21
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What do you care?

Ernest Major

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Oct 28, 2021, 1:00:16 PM10/28/21
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On 28/10/2021 00:00, RonO wrote:
> Has Kalkidas been a pretender all these years.  He now seems to be
> claiming to be a Christian creationist IDiot.
>
> https://groups.google.com/g/talk.origins/c/j21IhIYLKvg/m/kjx10cOpAAAJ
>
> The following quote comes after his indirect claims that he knows what
> it is like to be a Christian creationist in his previous post.
>
> QUOTE:
> I have never pretended nor claimed to be a "Hindu" or a "Sikh". I
> challenge you to produce a post in which I did. If you cannot do so, I
> suggest you brush up on your reading comprehension skills.
>
> Until then. Ta ta.
> END QUOTE:

He has denied being a Hindu before, but in a context where he treated
Hindu as an ethnic designation rather than a religious one. I understand
his professed affiliation to be ISKCon.

He is weirdly sympathetic to the Intelligent Design Movement.

--
alias Ernest Major

Glenn

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Oct 28, 2021, 1:20:16 PM10/28/21
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What's weird about that? Did you get your toes tied up trying to cross your legs?

Bob Casanova

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Oct 28, 2021, 1:25:16 PM10/28/21
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On Thu, 28 Oct 2021 17:58:45 +0100, the following appeared
in talk.origins, posted by Ernest Major
<{$to$}@meden.demon.co.uk>:
Well, "Hindu" is no more an ethnic designation than
"Catholic"; both are religious identifications. As is
ISKCon, a branch of Hinduism (or at least a religion which
adapted/adopted many Hindu beliefs, as Lutheranism
adapted/adopted many Catholic beliefs). So I fail to see the
distinction he seems to make.

Burkhard

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Oct 28, 2021, 1:35:16 PM10/28/21
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Ernest Major wrote:
> On 28/10/2021 00:00, RonO wrote:
>> Has Kalkidas been a pretender all these years.  He now seems to be
>> claiming to be a Christian creationist IDiot.
>>
>> https://groups.google.com/g/talk.origins/c/j21IhIYLKvg/m/kjx10cOpAAAJ
>>
>> The following quote comes after his indirect claims that he knows what
>> it is like to be a Christian creationist in his previous post.
>>
>> QUOTE:
>> I have never pretended nor claimed to be a "Hindu" or a "Sikh". I
>> challenge you to produce a post in which I did. If you cannot do so, I
>> suggest you brush up on your reading comprehension skills.
>>
>> Until then. Ta ta.
>> END QUOTE:
>
> He has denied being a Hindu before, but in a context where he treated
> Hindu as an ethnic designation rather than a religious one.


If I recall correctly, he also has expressed consistently at least a
strong dislike for the designation "Hinduism", mainly because he sees it
as an external classifier used by colonial powers to "homogenize" often
very disparate philosophies, and include schools of thought that which
were developed nowhere near the Sindhu River. Bit like when someone were
to say "European religion" and meaning anything from RCC to Norse
religions. I can see his point on this.

he also claims sometimes not to have a religion but a philosophy, but
this seems to be just one further step in the "Your silly superstition/
my religious belief" stratagem.

Glenn

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Oct 28, 2021, 1:45:16 PM10/28/21
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"In Hindu thought, church or temple membership or belief is not as significant as spiritual practice, which in Sanskrit is called sadhana.

As there is no Church of Hinduism, everyone holds their own spiritual and philosophical opinions. It is difficult then to understand someone's spirituality simply by looking at their religious trappings. "

https://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/hinduism/beliefs/jesus_1.shtml

Or,
Boing, boing, boing.

RonO

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Oct 28, 2021, 6:40:16 PM10/28/21
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Kalk has never been as fervent as other Krishnas on TO. His use of the
Vedas never seemed to ring true.

Kalk being an IDiot is one of the reasons why I doubted that he was what
he portrayed himself to be. There was no future in IDiocy for believers
in the Vedas as holy script. There were zero Hindu ID perps paid to
progress the creationist ID scam. His views would have never been
represented if IDiocy type creationism was ever taught in the public
schools, and he would have definitely been left out of the political
theocracy envisoned in the ID perp's original mission statement with
their logo of God and Adam.

Ron Okimoto

youngbl...@gmail.com

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Oct 30, 2021, 4:50:17 PM10/30/21
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ID is an example of https://tinyurl.com/3mdx9jrm

There are no gods unless we create them.

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